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"Steel rain" in the Baltics: on the location of the British MLRS in Estonia. Treacherous North European theater

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Unlike our launch system of the 9A52 / -2 “Smerch” multiple launch rocket system, which takes an average 17-19 minutes to recharge, reloading the MXXUMNXXX270 PU MLRS (modular gear transport) modular gear-carrying containers RSRS MLRS (charts), which is used by the MLRS (chart), will be used to remove the charts.



The crisis and operational situation in Syria for the West in Syria, as well as the sharp change in the foreign policy vector of Bulgaria and Moldova, where the position on key strategic issues for NATO changed with the change of leaders of the countries, became a powerful shock for the “anti-Russian axis”, which would not be easy to eliminate a few more years. In the case of Syria, we are witnessing the defeat of the coalition concept of supporting the opposition forces of the Syrian Arab Republic. Partial unofficial IS support by Western, Arabian and Qatari capital and armaments does not give significant results: the Syrian Armed Forces, with the support of the Russian Aerospace Forces, continue to confidently “replay” all the moves of the West in the Middle East theater of operations. NATO finally lost control of the situation after the launch of 15 on November 2016 in the 279 air operation of the separate naval fighter aviation regiment (279 of the OKIAP) based on the heavy aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov.

The situation in Bulgaria and Moldova appears before the eyes of the “Western hegemon” in a no less dramatic way. So in Bulgaria, after winning the presidential election of the pro-Russian Rumen Radev, an ace pilot who was familiar with the MiG-29A and F-15C, at the forums there were very few meaningful arguments about the likely exit from the North Atlantic alliance, but at the level of the Ministry of Defense was A contract was signed for the purchase of 10 TRDDF RD-33 to restore a full fleet of 16 available MiG-29. Obviously, the plan to take the Southern Military District of Russia into NATO’s strategic “clutches” is a fiasco. A similar situation is expected with Moldova, where Igor Dodon, who came to power, has already announced that he will make every effort to restore normal relations with the Russian Federation. The West finds itself in a very difficult situation, which is already pushing it towards military-political expansion in the remaining, more or less controlled operational areas.

We are talking about the Baltic states, where the US Armed Forces and some West European NATO member countries have been creating a powerful shock-defensive "fist" for more than 2 years, represented by armored brigades, infantry units in the amount of several thousand military personnel, as well as tactical squadrons aviation with deliberately shock configuration of missile weapons. Ukraine does not lag behind, which has turned into an enclave of private military companies from the USA, France and the UK, as well as a full-fledged training ground where experimental Ukrainian military units experience modern American and European weapons: from 12,7 mm Barrett M82A3 sniper rifles to counter-battery artillery radars Intelligence AN / TPQ-36.

After realizing that the very ambiguous and partly unpredictable Donald Trump, who directly declared the North Atlantic Alliance in the XXI century, came to power in the USA, such conservatively anti-Russian participants as the United Kingdom and Denmark sharply stirred. And they didn’t just “move”, but started a specific militarization of the Baltic countries directly at our borders. As we said in the last article, the arrival of Trump’s cardinal American military policy will not change (the Masonic lobby is too strong for the Republicans), but such statements by the new president really confuse all the maps of the Old World according to the well-established anti-Russian position.

In the spring of 2017, a powerful military group of the British Armed Forces is expected to arrive in Estonia, which will include: several dozen main combat tanks "Challenger-2", the same number of BMW MCW-80 "Warrior", several reconnaissance and strike UAVs MQ-9 "Reaper", as well as a reinforced infantry battalion of 800 British troops, and this is not counting the Danish and French units, which will also deploy to this Baltic country. Despite the significant concentration of NATO forces near the borders of the Leningrad and Pskov regions, they will simply not be able to achieve the desired result in the event of a conflict, since they will be quickly wiped off the face of the earth by BF naval artillery fire, "Smerch" multiple launch rocket systems, and also " Iskander ”and Belarusian“ Polonaise ”, focused on key operational areas in the Baltic and northeastern Europe. Heavy Challengers and non-floating Vorriors will be defeated even before they approach the southern bypass routes of Narva and Lake Pskov-Peipsi. "Ripers" will also be quickly shot down by the S-300/400 air defense system, and therefore London may not even dream of any deterrence, and even on our lands. But this is not the whole list of weapons that the British “grab” with them to Estonia.

According to the Military Parity, citing Western sources, the British Armed Forces command plans to send to Estonia multiple-launch multiple rocket launcher systems MLRS (Multiple Launch Rocket System), which in itself is a serious challenge for the actions of the armored units of the Russian army in the Baltic states and for operating the Baltic fleet on the main stretch of the sea, as well as directly in the Gulf of Finland. Why is this MLRS so dangerous?

HIGH POTENTIAL OF MLRS FOR DRYING TWO IS POSSIBLE, BUT ONLY UNDER CONDITION OF LOW ADVERSE ADMINISTRATION AND NO ACCOUNT PROTECTION



Developed by Boeing Aerospace and Vought in 1980, the MLRS MLRS very quickly occupied a solid niche in the ground forces of the US-friendly European, Middle Eastern and Asian countries. The main operators of the advanced system at that time, in addition to the States themselves, were: Germany (150 combat vehicles - M270 launchers), Israel (88 BM), and finally, the object of our present review, the United Kingdom, which purchased the 63 BM. The exact figures regarding the current number of launchers in service with the British army vary greatly, most likely from 35 to 39 units. The remainder appears to be conserved. All BM MLRS consisted and are in service with the 39-th regiment of the royal artillery NE of Great Britain. It is extremely clear that for the defense of the island Western European state of the RSRS MLRS / GMLRS London there is no special service, and therefore 39 and 15 launchers can be identified for arming the aggressive Eastern European regimes from the 25 regiment.

Standard equipment BM М270А1 is represented by a launcher of 2-x gear transport launcher modules (with 12 guides for NURS М26 and М26А1 / А2). The latest version of the unguided missile M26A2 has a range of about 45 km and flight speed to 4М. The caliber of shells is 227 mm, and therefore it is possible to speak about their ESR within 0,05 м2: in practice, they can be intercepted even with the help of the С-300ПМ1 ADMS, for which the minimum scattering surface of the target is limited to 0,02 м2. Until the destruction of the British MLRS launchers near our border, the issue of repelling the M26A1 / A2 strike will be partially resolved by the 500 Guards anti-aircraft missile regiment of the Suvorov and Kutuzov Orders, which is armed with the 4 ZRDN S-300MXNNMX. This regiment is the most combat-capable anti-missile unit of the Russian Aerospace Force of the Russian Federation at the front line of the western air route (not counting Kaliningrad’s “Four-Hundreds”). In the strategy of the British command, there is undoubtedly a firing point with the help of MLRS on our armored vehicles and strategic facilities in the border Leningrad and Pskov regions. Part of the unguided missiles, naturally, will break through the “Three Hundreds” anti-aircraft “umbrella”, and in this case most of the CB armored vehicles must be equipped with a KAZ that can effectively repel the impact of M1 / 77 cumulative fragmentation combat elements, which are in the head of the M85A26 rocket as much as 2 units. Considering the small armor penetration of M518 / 77 fragmentation-cumulative combat elements (from 85 to 40mm), the survivability of our T-70B, T-72BB and T-80CM can be dramatically increased by installing modern DZ systems like Relikt, which are much more solidly, which have a lot more space. all MBT projections, including the top, from damage by cumulative projectiles.

Meanwhile, it is worth noting that the composition of the 6 of the Czestochowa Tank Brigade, which controls the western IT, cannot be called advanced at all. The armament consists of MBT T-80BV, equipped with a DZ "Kontakt-1", which only partially covers the upper projection of VLD tanks, as well as the upper armor plate of the tower (especially in the center and the stern part): this is clearly seen in the photographs published in the review, dedicated to the 70 anniversary of the brigade with great history. It is logical that there are no active protection complexes. Against 6216 cumulative "blanks" (with each BM MLRS) on such vulnerable machines you will not trample. It remains only to wait for the update of the 6 Tank Brigade with the upgraded MBT T-80ЕЕ1 (“Object 219АС 1”), as well as promising T-14 “Armata”. As 14 of November 2016 became known, already in 2017, the tanks of T-80BB, upgraded to the T-1-80 level, will begin to actively arrive at the armament of the Russian Army, which will be improved by the specialists of Omsktransmash JSC and St. Petersburg SKBM JSC. Virtually all cars must receive KAZ kits. "Reserved" and can be upgraded to 3 thousand "jet" tanks.

Uncontrollable rockets of the M26 family are not the main strike force of the MLRS in the new century. At the end of 1990's The first developments appeared on adjustable projectiles with an increased range of action, control on the trajectory of which was realized using compact aerodynamic control surfaces. Already in the 2006 year, the belt block of gas-dynamic impulse rudders was shown, which gave the experimental URS higher maneuvering qualities on the approach to a target that changes its location.

Lockheed Martin, with the assistance of British, French, German and Italian specialists, achieved tremendous success in developing the M30 GMLRS (Guided MLRS) long-range guided missile. The product was developed over 15 years, and in the summer of 2005, the UK MoD was ordered as part of the 55-million contract. The shells of the new generation entered service 39-th regiment of royal artillery and became the most powerful and accurate ground component of the British army. These missiles have a range of 70 km and are equipped with a similar cumulative fragmentation warhead intended to destroy manpower, lightly armored vehicles (BTR, BMP, BMD), as well as MBT in the upper projection. The presence of a control unit with drives for aerodynamic control surfaces, as well as a radio-command correction module, led to the need to reduce the dimensions of the cassette warhead: the number of KOBEs was reduced from 518 to 404 units. But this reduction was offset by a minimum QUO, as well as a range that exceeded 70 km.

The danger of deploying M30 GMLRS in Estonia is as follows. Taking into account that the test launches conducted by 5 XKHUMX members in November showed 2009 km result, the GMLRS battery deployed in the depths of Estonian territory will be able to conduct targeted fire on surface warships of the Baltic Fleet across the entire width of the Gulf of Finland. A total of 92 M8A270 launchers can launch a 1 minute in the direction of a group surface target, up to 1 M96 projectiles in flight, and these are 30 cumulative fragmentation combat elements! It is necessary to intercept МХNUMX several more kilometers before our KUG, until the deadly cassettes with four tens of thousands of BEs flying at a speed of about 38784 km / h did not open up. And given the number of ready-to-reflect ship-based air defense systems "Redoubt" in the armament of the BF, it will not be possible to destroy the third part of the attacking М30. After all, corvettes of the X.UMX Ave. “Savvy” are carried aboard the Redoubts, which are controlled by the Furcé-3600 radar, which is much more limited in terms of firing, in contrast to the 30 multi-channel MRLLS Polymer installed on frigates of the Admiral Gorshkov class .

It should also be noted that the reloading of the M269 start-charging module (PZM), rocket programming and guidance of the launcher using azimuth and elevation coordinates only takes 5 minutes, after which the GMLRS battery can again drop tons of Steel Rain onto the ships or other objects of the enemy. That is how Iraqi soldiers called the “stuffing” of M26 rockets. The M30 GMLRS guided missiles are not capable of sending frigates and corvettes of the Baltic Fleet to the bottom, but Steel Rain can completely destroy their entire radar architecture, damaging canvases of survey and multifunctional radar stations, which will lead to the loss of combat service. The CBG may simply be "paralyzed." And this is absolutely not a fantasy, but an objective reality predicted on the basis of the well-known combat qualities of the MLRS GMLRS. How to prevent such a development?

The first information about the appearance of the British GMLRS on Estonian territory should be the starting point from which it is necessary to begin a total observation of the neighboring state. Such machines as Altius-M and Tu-214Р should be involved in optical and radio intelligence. The location of the GMLRS launcher must be regularly recorded in order to promptly issue target designation for Caliber cruise missiles and tactical aircraft in case of conflict escalation. Such goals are related to priority rocket-dangerous objects, which are to be destroyed first of all.

MLRS / GMLRS PROGRAM TAKES ALL THE MORE DANGEROUS SCALE: FROM CONTROLLABLE SHELLS TO HIGH-PRECISION COMBAT ELEMENTS. CROSSING THE BOMB WITH THE REACTIVE SYSTEM OF THE RULE FIRE

At about the same time as designing the M30 GMLRS URS, the development program for another type of long-range guided projectile, XM30 GUMLRS (Guided Unitary MLRS), was in full swing. This product is designed on the basis of a similar M30 engine, but with a unitary (monoblock) high-explosive penetrating warhead with a mass of 89 kg. At a distance of over 75 km, this projectile is capable of striking underground support points, runways, large bridges, underground infrastructure of strategic objects and other structures. This projectile has sufficient accuracy to destroy surface ships of the corvette class, and therefore can be attributed to high-speed anti-ship missiles, its method of control is similar to that established on the earlier M30 GMLRS. An important feature of the MLRS MLRS family is the unification of the combined TPK not only with the heavy tracked M270A1 PU, but also with the wheel M142 HIMARS. The latter provide additional flexibility for the transfer of airborne military transport aircraft as well as 2 times higher PU speed on highways and off-road.

And finally, about one of the most radical methods of modernization of the MLRS family MLRS / GMLRS. In the spring of 2015 of the year, in the news section of the website of the corporation “Boeing”, a brief description of a completely innovative program was published, which broke all existing stereotypes regarding the use of high-precision aircraft weapons and medium-range and long-range rocket launchers. The publication presented the concept of an advanced rocket launcher system, the design of which is a hybrid of the launch and missile parts of the MLRS MLRS and the small-sized “narrow” bomb GBU-39B SDB as a detachable head part. Joint work on the program is carried out by Boeing and Swedish Saab AB. The first full-scale tests of GLSDB were conducted in February of the 2015 year. The first modification of the unguided missile of the MLRS MLRS - M26 was used as a starting stage.

The newspaper DefenseNews, citing representatives of development companies, reported that GLSDB based on M26 will have a range of up to 150 km. This will be achieved thanks to the SDB entering the stratospheric mid-flight section at a speed of about 3,5М (at an altitude of up to 30 km), switching to a horizontal inertial flight with a folded wing and a slow descent, and then opening the wing and supersonic diving to the target. To increase the range from 150 to 220 km, you will need to use an accelerating first stage from NURS М30 or ХМ30, which will tell the combat stage with GBU-39B greater speed and height of separation. The demonstration sketches of the GLSDB launch show that the warhead with a bomb hides under a thick thermal shield-fairing, since the shell of the bomb and the “sleeve” of the wing module mounting are absolutely not designed to fly in dense layers of the atmosphere at speed 4000 km / h, which occurs at the accelerating stage. part of the trajectory (aerodynamic and temperature loads are too high).

It is noteworthy that not only the folding wing, but also the mass of all in 129 - 132 kg together with the fairing helps to reach a greater range by several times, the former warheads weighed to 154 kg. The GBU-39B SDB-I winged guided bomb is a much more flexible percussion instrument than the M30 / XM30 projectiles; planning from 20-25 km altitudes at speeds around 1,3-1,4M, the bomb can be re-directed to a completely different target, which could become a much higher priority during the marching stage of the flight. It can even be re-focused on a ground object that is left behind: a large wing, as well as advanced aerodynamic control surfaces, will deploy it to any possible trajectory. With conventional guided missiles such a result is impossible to achieve, because the compact nasal corrective aerodynamic control wheels are not designed to vigorously control a heavy product, but can only correct it.


Experimental launch of a “smart” missile with a small-sized guided GBU-39B aerial bomb as a combat stage of the GLSDB multiple-launch rocket launcher upgraded by NURS М26


The danger from the MLRS GLSDB is equivalent to that of the British anti-radar ALARM missiles. And the most vulnerable to these means of air attack are numerous means of military air defense. The GBU-39B SDB-I bomb, like the ALARM rocket, can reach a large angle relative to the target at an altitude of 12-15 km, while it continues to be outside the high-altitude interception boundary of such FSACs like the Tor-M1 / 2. Appearing directly above the target, the GBU-39B starts a steep dive at angles greater than 70 degrees, and the ALARM rocket opens a container with a parachute and descends to the target in the locking mode, during which the passive RSGN searches for a radio-emitting source (ARMS radar ). After lazirovanija and capture of the target, the parachute is disconnected and ALARM, turning on the accelerating engine of the second stage, rushes to the target.

The approach to the target from large angles makes it very difficult to intercept a planning UAB or ALARM, since many MRLSs have a restriction for scanning air space in an elevation plane. So, for example, if SDB-I hits the target defended by the Tor-M2 complex, at an angle of more than 64 degrees, sure interception will be impossible: the upper range of elevation scanning for the Torah begins with 32 and ends with 64 degrees. The target simply turns out to be outside the corner sector of the radar action of the air defense missile system. A similar threat persists for long-range radar C-300PS / PM1 (RPN 30H6E also has an elevation limitation in 64 degrees), but their situation is better, since it is possible to intercept SDB-I even in the stratospheric flight segment at XNX distance - 35 km. But the most protected, from attacking from above EHV, the means of military air defense is considered to be the anti-aircraft missile-artillery complex "Pantsir-S45". According to well-known information, the sector of radar tracking of the target is from -1 to + 5 degrees, and the opto-electronic sighting system 85EC10-Е - to 1 degrees: even the most "cool" attacking elements of precision weapons can be destroyed.

At present, the promising MLRS GLSDB has not yet been commissioned by the US Army and its European allies, but the main stages of testing flight modes and the behavior of the GBU-39B bomb at high supersonic speeds have already been passed, and therefore in the near future may be followed by allegations of acquiring an initial combat system readiness. Taking into account the altitude of the operation and the flight speed of the GLSDB (GBU-39B) combat stage on the cruise flight, the US-Swedish hybrid can be attributed to high-speed supersonic means of aerospace attack; 1500, of course, does not reach the hypersound, but it is definitely on the list of tactical tools of the BSU concept. This is what causes the increased interest in the evolution of the advanced system with 33-year history from the side of military departments and specialists of countries directly involved in the global military-strategic twists and turns.

Information sources:
http://forum.militaryparitet.com/viewtopic.php?id=10926
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/mlrs/mlrs.shtml
http://saab.com/land/weapon-systems/surface-tosurface-missile-systems/ground-launched-small-diameter-bomb/
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  1. iouris
    iouris 22 November 2016 21: 46 New
    +4
    The war with NATO can only be a nuclear missile with strikes at full depth. Those. both parties must be willing to commit suicide.
    1. hirurg
      hirurg 22 November 2016 22: 03 New
      0
      Well, it seems like they refused to post.
      And the gut is somehow thin. His money is not enough. They would have survived Brexit, they were saved from immigrants ...
  2. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 22 November 2016 21: 49 New
    +1
    Well, you see, they will not calm down, nasty request
  3. NEXUS
    NEXUS 22 November 2016 22: 00 New
    +6
    Unlike our launch system of the 9A52 / -2 “Smerch” multiple launch rocket system, which takes an average 17-19 minutes to recharge, reloading the MXXUMNXXX270 PU MLRS (modular gear transport) modular gear-carrying containers RSRS MLRS (charts), which is used by the MLRS (chart), will be used to remove the charts.

    Only a respected author did not specify for some reason that the firing range of the most advanced modification is the M270 MLRS, ATACMS Block IA missiles —80km ..
    And at Smerch, the maximum range (with 9M528 missiles) is 90 km ... and after modernization, in Tornado-S-range 120 km, and in the near future the range will reach 200 km ...
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 22 November 2016 22: 17 New
      +3
      Well, firstly, our MLRS school will be older and more authoritative soldier
      And secondly, there are their own quirks regarding the quality of weapons and its maintenance request
      You will find comparative videos of the shooting cycles of their calculations of the 155-mm howitzer “Paladin”, which is presented as the most-most in the world in all respects and our “Mstu-S”. I laughed for a long time from the "advanced" Western technology wassat
    2. Su24
      Su24 23 November 2016 00: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: NEXUS
      Only a respected author did not specify for some reason that the firing range of the most advanced modification is the M270 MLRS, ATACMS Block IA missiles —80km ..


      You haven’t messed up anything there for an hour?) Even Block 1A shoots much further, and Block 4A has a range of 300 km.
      But this is another ammunition, but it was about missiles in the caliber of conventional NURS. Range M30 / 31 approx. 84 km On PU 12 units. In the salvo of the division up to 144 units. The author also, damn it, wants to intercept all this with conventional air defense systems.
      The most protected, from top-level attackers, by means of military air defense is considered to be the Pantsir-S1 anti-aircraft missile and artillery system. According to well-known information, the surveillance sector of the target tracking radar ranges from -5 to +85 degrees, and the 10ES1-E optical-electronic aiming complex - up to 82 degrees: even the most “cool” attacking elements of high-precision weapons can be destroyed.

      Those. Apparently, the S-400 + Shell is effective enough, however, again, the author wants to intercept entire salvos with expensive anti-aircraft missiles. Thus, you can quickly be in short supply. + It should be borne in mind that at the same time the S-400 division can fire at 10 targets. Usually a regiment has two divisions. Ie 20 goals + something will take on the Shell and other air defense systems. However, it is quite possible to reload the air defense system.
      In short, a massive preventive strike by OTP and CR is best. With subsequent rapid (within 1-2 days) occupation of the territory of the Baltic states, while maintaining complete dominance in the air.
      Quote: NEXUS
      Well, firstly, our MLRS school will be older and more authoritative


      Truth? Already planning a PSA for the MLRS rocket attached?
      Quote: NEXUS
      You will find comparative videos of the shooting cycles of their calculations of the 155-mm howitzer “Paladin”, which is presented as the most-most in the world in all respects and our “Mstu-S”. I laughed for a long time from the "advanced" Western technology


      More ridiculous is the fact that someone compares a lightweight towed howitzer and self-propelled guns. And by the way, so far, of the serial active guided projectiles, the M982 Excalibur has the largest range - up to 60 km.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 23 November 2016 01: 05 New
        +3
        Quote: Su24
        You haven’t messed up anything there for an hour?) Even Block 1A shoots much further,

        No, I didn’t confuse ... 80 km ...
        Quote: Su24
        and Block 4A has a range of 300 km.

        MGM-140E ATACMS Block 1A Unitary (QRU) / MGM-168A ATACMS Block 4A: Modification with a high-explosive fragmentation warhead WDU-18 weighing 227 kg and firing range up to 270 km.
        At the same time, if this missile is taken, then let's compare it with the Iskander missile, which hits 500 km ... that’s right, the MGM-168A ATACMS Block 4A is an operational-tactical missile system (OTRK), like Iskander. ..
        Quote: Su24
        Those. Apparently, the S-400 + Shell is effective enough, however, again, the author wants to intercept entire salvos with expensive anti-aircraft missiles.

        What exactly do you mean, the S-400 missiles with the Shell will have to intercept?
        Quote: Su24
        And by the way, so far, of the serial active guided projectiles, the M982 Excalibur has the largest range - up to 60 km.

        The longest-running version of Escalibur Block 1a-2 flies 60 km ...
        At the same time, let's recall the cost of this projectile - $ 160 ... the second version is even more expensive - $ 000. Now the Swedes have harnessed financially in order to get this projectile for $ 232, with the hope that, in the long run, with a large batch, it would cost 000 85 dollars.



        Quote: Su24
        It's more ridiculous that someone compares a lightweight towed howitzer and self-propelled guns

        SPG M109A6 Paladin ... actually Palladin is also SPG.
        1. Su24
          Su24 23 November 2016 02: 38 New
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          No, I didn’t confuse ... 80 km ...

          We look, enlighten and do not write nonsense:

          This is the same wiki where did you get the info about 80 km. The English wiki has a range of 165 km, and the German one is 160 km. Those. no 80 km and does not smell. Actually, why would a half-rotor rocket fly only 80 km?
          Quote: NEXUS
          At the same time, if this missile is taken, then let's compare it with the Iskander missile, which hits 500 km ... it will be right

          And a little earlier you wrote:
          Quote: NEXUS
          Only a respected author did not specify for some reason that the firing range of the most advanced modification is the M270 MLRS, ATACMS Block IA missiles —80km ..

          Those. They compared the MLRS, and an article about the same. So, MLRS M270 fires ATACMS series missiles at a range of up to 300 km. And missiles M30 / 31 at 84 km.
          Quote: NEXUS
          What exactly do you mean, the S-400 missiles with the Shell will have to intercept?

          Well, which ones are of the 48N6 and 9M96 + 57E6 series from the Shell.
          Quote: NEXUS
          The longest-running version of Escalibur Block 1a-2 flies 60 km ...

          Do you propose to ask the enemy to use NOT the most long-range versions?)
          Quote: NEXUS
          At the same time, let's recall the cost of this shell-

          Who cares? That’s what, and they don’t suffer from the limitation of the military budget there. Again, the consumption of such shells on the target is not large. The cost of conventional shells for Tornado is also not small.
          Quote: NEXUS
          SPG M109A6 Paladin ... actually Palladin is also SPG.

          I did not pay attention) In any case, no one called the M109 the most advanced self-propelled guns, more and more Germans are praised.
          Quote: NEXUS
          This is where it has been seen so that the S-300-PMU1 army air defense system is engaged in intercepting tactical, well, maximum operational tactical missiles !!! Where did the 300s get such a task, where did it come from ????????

          Quote: NEXUS
          the author is raving. From the point of view of operational art, utter nonsense!

          Here I agree) It is sad that the resource sometimes posts such essays.
  4. krot_tank
    krot_tank 22 November 2016 23: 55 New
    +4
    This is where it has been seen so that the S-300-PMU1 army air defense system is engaged in intercepting tactical, well, maximum operational tactical missiles !!! Where did the 300s get such a task, where did it come from ????????
    Suppose that the Yankens completed ATACMS Block IIA, and this is claimed 160 km and this is the maximum for M270. In the first MRAU VNO, they will be present unambiguously, only the respected author, the role of missile defense of critical units of the battle formations of the ground forces is assigned not to the 300th, but to the Armor, the Torah can be handled by the Tunguska - and then as a "point" air defense (if you understand what points in the subject ) And the main role in counteracting the WTO is damn all camouflage measures, electronic warfare and reconnaissance of the artillery chief with all his ZOO to detect the M270s and his defeat in return fire (if the intelligence did not know about them before).
    And the 300s at that moment will drop all the aviation of the “For Sorting” adversary into the ground in a single space of air defense missile defense :).
    About the defeat of the 270th BF ships (I’ll just say - showed the sailors. The author HELLO to you by the Second Boatswalk Bend).
    It has been known about the funnel over the SAM area since the time of S-25. Author YOU have anything to say about separation, battle formation, overlapping zones, priority distribution according to the ranks of air defense systems of different levels - Heard?
    the author is raving. From the point of view of operational art, utter nonsense!
  5. glasha3032
    glasha3032 22 November 2016 23: 55 New
    0
    Judging by the picture, well, they won’t manage to reload in 8-10 minutes - until they unload, until they load, everything is practically manual, even though there is some kind of manipulator ... It looks like they unload plates at a construction site ... .
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 23 November 2016 00: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: glasha3032
      Judging by the picture, well, they won’t manage to reload in 8-10 minutes - until they unload, until they load, everything is practically manual, even though there is some kind of manipulator ... It looks like they unload plates at a construction site ... .

      Well, yes, automation, telemechanics. Pressed a button, back in soap.
      1. cap
        cap 23 November 2016 05: 08 New
        0
        Quote: Amurets
        Quote: glasha3032
        Judging by the picture, well, they won’t manage to reload in 8-10 minutes - until they unload, until they load, everything is practically manual, even though there is some kind of manipulator ... It looks like they unload plates at a construction site ... .

        Well, yes, automation, telemechanics. Pressed a button, back in soap.


        Amurets. That it was not, an unpleasant thing.
        The only alternative. At the very first "bunch" of NATO, nuclear weapons and "no problem."
        You just need to say, “guys or we live together, or we burn together”
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 23 November 2016 05: 41 New
          0
          Quote: cap
          The only alternative. At the very first "bunch" of NATO, nuclear weapons and "no problem."
          You just need to say, “guys or we live together, or we burn together”

          I agree completely. At the site "Three Rivers" had, from the side, to see how they shoot "Grad". Until now, sensations are not pleasant.
  6. vm68dm
    vm68dm 23 November 2016 00: 38 New
    0
    OTRK "Iskander" Purpose of the complex: air defense systems
    missile defense systems
    operational-tactical missile systems, command posts and communication centers
    most important infrastructure facilities, And ..... divisional artillery: multiple launch rocket systems, long-range artillery. to a depth of 500 km.
  7. vm68dm
    vm68dm 23 November 2016 00: 41 New
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    Quote: vm68dm
    OTRK "Iskander" Purpose of the complex: air defense systems
    missile defense systems
    operational-tactical missile systems, command posts and communication centers
    most important infrastructure facilities, And ..... divisional artillery: multiple launch rocket systems, long-range artillery. to a depth of 500 km.

    plays a key role in the concept of the Russian Armed Forces, known in the West as the “Anti-Access / Area Denial (A2 / AD)”, which means that NATO troops cannot be located and move within the range of restricted area systems A2 / AD without the risk of causing unacceptable damage.
    1. cap
      cap 23 November 2016 05: 17 New
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      Quote: vm68dm
      NATO forces cannot be and move within the range of A2 / AD restricted area systems without the risk of causing unacceptable damage to them.


      We need to explain to morons that this zone is purely arbitrary, and it’s not a dogma for us, any “provocations” are possible terrorists “breyviks” sent or escaped from prison (which no one guards)), nobody will read the markings of missiles in flight.
      "Fur" animal in your hands in which case.
      ".... plays a key role in the concept of the Russian Armed Forces, known in the West as the Anti-Access / Area Denial, A2 / AD, which means that NATO troops cannot be in and out of range "A2 / AD exclusion zone systems without the risk of causing unacceptable damage."
  8. Megatron
    Megatron 23 November 2016 09: 03 New
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    A nuclear club in London and the question is closed.
  9. Buffet
    Buffet 23 November 2016 11: 34 New
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    Only now the MLRS shells do not intercept and hit the installations. Like bombs. They hit the planes.
  10. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 24 November 2016 07: 10 New
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    in practice, they can be intercepted even with the S-300PM1 air defense system

    Wouldn't it be a little expensive to intercept cheap missiles fancy anti-aircraft? And then with a mass salvo, the S-300 missiles would not be enough to repulse everything.
  11. sufix
    sufix 24 November 2016 10: 52 New
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    Criticism. The author writes about the MLRS and says that "in practice, they can be intercepted even with the S-300PM1 air defense system." As it sounds crazy to me. C-300 uses 1 missiles to defeat 0.95 targets with a probability of 2. 12 NURSES * 2 = 24 missiles - this is almost a division. With this use of air defense, the defense will drown in the 3 installation of the MLRS.