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MiG-31BM over Syria - "pill from mistakes" of the Air Force coalition

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The incidents that occurred in eastern and northeastern Syria 18 August and 17 September 2016, once again “taught us a hard lesson” of understanding who now retains operational and tactical control over these regions of the republic. The August event, when the unobtrusive tactical fighters of the 5 generation F-22A "Raptor" of the US Air Force forced out of the airspace over the city of Al-Hasak, the link of the Syrian front bombers Su-24M, became only "flowers" in comparison with those "berries" that we saw a month later. Then, 17 September, there was a real “bloody precedent” near the airfield of the Syrian city of Deir-ez-Zor, when the combined Western coalition air forces launched massive bombing attacks on the units of the Syrian armed forces, which were already in the most difficult situation, surrounded by the formations of the IG ( prohibited in the Russian Federation).

As a result of that airstrike, 83 Syrian military personnel died, and even more than a hundred people turned out to be 300's. The militants then temporarily launched a counterattack, with the result that the government forces had to knock out IG units from the vicinity of the airfield until 17 November 2016 (on this day the task was completed). After a couple of American A-10A "Warthog" and a couple of Danish F-16C "shot out" in the evening by the SAR government forces, the US Central Command, which oversees the coalition operation, in its usual form, pretended to be a fool and tried to explain the incident with an "error" committed due to incorrect information on target designation issued to fighter pilots and attack aircraft. But we know very well when shtatovskie officers and generals make such “mistakes” and when the most accurate radar with AFAR and AN / ZPY-2 synthetic aperture mode of the strategic RQ-4B UAV “Global Hawk” allows for errors!

That's right: when it is beneficial to Washington’s ambitious plans in one or another region of the world. So it is in the case of the attack on Deir ez-Zor: the more territories in the east of the country are freed by the Syrian army units from the IG, the less influence the States and the West have on the “Big Game” course. With regards to ousting the Su-24M of the Syrian air force by the American Raptors, over Al-Hasak, it is also possible to draw similar parallels. Near this city, US special operations forces conducted military training for friendly Kurdish YPG units, and Syrian 24s could create a whole host of problems for Kurds and Americans in this northeastern region, as the Syrian military command is well aware of that from the territory of the Kurds to the territories controlled by the IG, large-scale smuggling of Western weapons is made in exchange for relatively inexpensive “black gold”, the whole process is carefully supervised by the US military.

There is only one result: the United States and the countries of the coalition informally equip the IG with the best examples of small arms. weapons and electronics through the Kurds, and in some cases the so-called “moderate opposition”, which allows the militants to “keep afloat”, thereby keeping the eastern lands out of Syrian and Russian interests. For some time this sly American-Arab “cuisine” will still last, but not as long as the American “hawks” would like.

The thing is that before aviation The air defense of the aerospace forces of the Russian Federation (super-maneuverable multi-purpose fighters of the 4 ++ generation Su-30SM and Su-35S) deployed at the Khmeimim air base, until recently, two main tasks were set. The first is the escort of tactical high-precision fighter-bombers Su-34, front-line bombers Su-24M / M2, reconnaissance aircraft, which are Tu-214R, A-50U, etc., as well as strategic missile carriers Tu-95MS, Tu- 22M3 and Tu-160, carrying out targeted strike operations on the fortified areas of the terrorist groups IG, Jabhat al-Nusra and other organizations banned in Russia. The second is the air defense and missile defense of Russian and Syrian military installations in Latakia, as well as the naval base in Tartus.

All these measures are required for the full security of our contingent and the Syrian Armed Forces in a situation where a sudden blow from the OVS coalition or armed with the western rocket technology of the militants can be dealt with from the territories of neighboring states, with exacerbation of the situation. Also, aviation air defense component is an excellent complement to anti-aircraft missile battalions of S-300V4 and C-400 «Triumph" in the low-altitude areas where the impossible capture purposes enemy radar illumination and guidance 9S32M (C-300V4) and 92N6E (C-400 «Triumph"). This is especially true for the Syrian Jebel-Ansariya mountain range in the north-west of the country. But these are not the only mountains in which the threat from enemy aviation can lurk. There are also southern mountains through which the low-profile F-22A fighters deployed to Al-Dhafra (UAE) or more close military airfields in Saudi Arabia and Jordan can easily enter the airspace of the SAR. The Raptors with EPR around 0,07 m2 and other types of tactical aviation have a great opportunity to “squeeze” unnoticed between the mountain peaks of the Jebel ar-Ravek ridges, as well as the Anti-Lebanese Mountains and Jebel Bishri. This is regularly and demonstrated during repetitive "mistakes", as a result of which the Syrian government forces periodically suffer serious losses.

The air defense aviation of the Russian Air Force, engaged in the two tasks listed above (control of the airspace over Latakia and escort of strike aviation) cannot regularly patrol the eastern frontiers of Syrian airspace, and everything that is “planned” by the American command will be recognized only by bad news from the Ministry of Defense of Syria. The situation has really developed uneasy, and the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation at last has made the decision to turn the situation in its favor.

The distant fighter-interceptors MiG-31BM, which were deployed at the Syrian airbase of Queire, located in the vicinity of Aleppo, were used as a tool. The choice of location is absolutely not spontaneous. Avb Kveres, unlike Hmimim, allows interceptors to reach virtually any part of the Syrian airspace for the same and a very small amount of time. One MiG-31BM link, in case of the need to conduct an air campaign of intimidation and displacement of the Western coalition aviation from the areas of the eastern cities of Deir-ez-Zor and Haseke, is able to reach these boundaries in just 8-10 minutes, since the distance to Deir-ez-Zor is 285 km, to Haseke - 325 km. From the Khmeimim airbase, the distance to these sites by 100 km is longer, which increases the flight time by another 4 minutes. In a critical situation, if military use of the MiG-31BM is required, the vehicles will be able to start it already when they reach the borders of the province of Aleppo or the central part of the province of Racca.


The P-37 super-long-range air-to-air missile on the cruise flight has the capability of aiming at a distant radiation source in a passive mode (operating an enemy fighter radar or AN / APY-2 radar E-3C), thanks to which the interceptor crew can attack the target only according to the OSS or target designation. Radio-emitting fighters with a low EPR type F-22A or F-35A, which are not detected by the Zaslonom at distances over 120-140 km, can also be attacked. The interception of the ARGSN activation in the immediate vicinity of the target is completed: the full-fledged principle of “let-forget” is implemented


Even Su-35С does not possess such capabilities today. Although his Irbis-E radar has a range of 400 km, RVV-BD missiles are not used as main weapons for air combat on these fighters and are not seen on suspensions. The upgraded Foxhounds carry a full-fledged arsenal for ultra-long air combat, which may include upgraded missiles with ARGSN R-33С (160 km distance), and Р-37 (more than 280 km distance). After the appearance of the very first information about the detection of NATO aircraft over eastern Syria, the MiG-31BMs that rose to intercept within 4-6 minutes after take-off can “capture” it with their powerful onboard radar Zaslon-AM (at a distance of 250 km, the target with EPR is detected 3 m2). The possibilities of confronting the MiG-31BM with the F-22A will, of course, be much worse than those of the Su-35C (the Raptor will only be found from the 130 km), but in order to catch the unobtrusive enemy by surprise or not allow the controlled section of the theater, MiG-31BM are equipped with an in-flight refueling system, which allows you to patrol for hours on a given section of airspace.

Sufficiently reasoned statements may appear that less maneuverable and heavy P-33C / 37 interceptor missiles are absolutely not adapted to combat such super-maneuverable targets as F-22A. In part, we can agree with this, since the maximum overload of the target for this family is 8 units. For the interception of the same F-16C, c full armament pendants, this is quite enough. For a more agile enemy, the MiG-31BM air defense system is unified with air-to-air missiles such as the Р-77 (РВВ-АЕ) and their numerous modifications capable of dealing with the Raptor at a distance of 100 and more than kilometers.

Sending the MiG-31BM link to the Syrian theater of operations is also due to other circumstances. Firstly, it is at 3-4 km greater than that of the Su-30CM or Su-35С, the height of the patrol. This allows the co-pilot of the systems operator to scan even the most inaccessible low-altitude areas of the airspace, hiding from less high-altitude air-based radars behind the Syrian mountain ranges in the south and south-west of the SAR. Secondly, increased efficiency in operations to prevent the proximity of the E-3C / G AWACS airborne early warning and control aircraft to the northern Syrian air border, which are deployed at Turkish air bases. A pair of MiG-31BM over the northern lands of Aleppo will be an excellent incentive for Americans not to approach the SAR by less than 300 km. Immediately I recall the October incident, when the pilots of the American E-3C "Sentry" had enough "mind" over Deir-ez-Zor to reduce the 155-ton car from the occupied echelon and bring it to 500 m to our Su-35С, which is carrying out a military operation.

The MiG-31BM double long-range interceptor is an advanced all-height aviation complex that is capable of solving the tasks of intercepting enemy aircraft and precision weapons both independently and using other types of multi-role fighters, including Su-30CM, Su-33, passing them tactical information on air situation on the encrypted radio channel communication. It is well known that the 279-based OKUAP Su-33 fighter aircraft are equipped with outdated H001 radar (F / A-18E / F target radius - 115 km), which makes the vehicles seriously lose in advanced combat with the more sophisticated American “Super Hornet "or" Raphales ". In case, if the threat comes from NATO carrier-based aviation in the Mediterranean, operating at extremely low altitudes, the MiG-31BM will be able to immediately come out to support the sea “Dryers” as airborne “Mini-DRLO”, which precisely coordinates the process of repelling an air strike. Note that C-300F and C-300FM, installed on Moscow and Peter the Great, will not be able to fight low-flying carrier-based naval aircraft at a distance of more than 55-60 km.


The main disadvantage of the KZRK C-300FM in the ability to work on targets outside the radio horizon is a semi-active radar homing head mounted on the 48Н6Е / Е2 SAMs. Unlike the Idzhisov RIM-174 ERAM, our 48H6-2 cannot be launched on the over-the-horizon target for targeting DRLOU airplanes or tactical aircraft radar, and therefore the maximum intercept radar of the KR and the low-flying Super Hornets no more than NN more than N X no more than X. The situation could be improved temporarily by the development of specialized side-mounted radars for illumination and targeting, analogous to the 45Н30Е installed on the sides of the fuselage of Il-6MD military transport aircraft


Machines will also be very relevant in the moments of accompanying strategic missile-carrying bombers of the Russian Aerospace Forces, entering the Syrian theater of operations from the Mediterranean theater of operations. One link of the 4 MiG-31BM can simultaneously intercept up to 24 air targets of the F-15C / E type at a distance of 260 km, destroy operational-tactical ballistic missiles at speeds up to 6M (ATACMS), and also control the airspace up to 1200 km along the front thanks to the azimuth sector of the review 140 degrees with electronic beam diversion, as well as a mechanical electrohydraulic dovorot PFAR radar "Zaslon-AM". This is enough to control the length of the entire sky over Syria, plus the 200-kilometer stretches of airspace over Jordan and Turkey. Such a powerful air defense component stories created beyond the borders of our state, indicates to the Western and Arabian regimes in the Middle East that Russia will unconditionally return to the “battle” for domination over the vast and strategically important Persian-Asian region.

Information sources:
https://lenta.ru/news/2016/11/15/mig/
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-407.html
http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/fort_m/fort_m.shtml
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 21 November 2016 15: 09
    +17
    As I said earlier, the MIG-31 strengthened its air defense, plus it is partly able to work like an A-50 ... well, and if again the coalition decides to take provocation, it will not work to escape the provocateur.
    1. 52
      52 21 November 2016 15: 22
      +5
      Well, yes, AWACS for the poor, but with missiles ...)))
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 21 November 2016 15: 29
        +25
        Quote: 52gim
        Well yes, AWACS for the poor,

        Well, this is not his direct task ... let's just say not a profile, but a very pleasant addition to his merits. At the same time, this plane "runs" the fastest of all today.
        1. ancient
          ancient 21 November 2016 19: 34
          +16
          Quote: NEXUS
          Well this is not his direct task ..


          Again "Urya-Damantsev" ... what a "Makar" it is.. "One link of 4 MiG-31BM can simultaneously intercept up to 24 air targets of the F-15C / E type" belay
          Although the MiG-31 has not "links" in its structure, but units soldier
          Well, about R-77 ... that is generally ... I just want to ask the afftor a question ... so what about "life on Mars"!
          Okay .. I will not go on, but .. "little article" from the series - "if grandmother had ..." one subject ", she would be ... grandfather."
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 21 November 2016 19: 41
            +5
            Quote: ancient
            Well, about R-77 ... that is generally ... I just want to ask the afftor a question ... so what about "life on Mars"!

            Friend, do you think that the P-77 at a distance of 100 km is not capable of capturing such an inconspicuous target as a lizard?
            1. ancient
              ancient 21 November 2016 20: 02
              +6
              Quote: NEXUS
              Friend, do you think that the P-77 at a distance of 100 km is not capable of capturing such an inconspicuous target as a lizard?


              Theoretically, even yes, you just need it on the MiG-31BM .. "attach" for a start .. don't you think? wink wink
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 21 November 2016 20: 06
                +2
                Quote: ancient
                Theoretically, even yes, you just need it on the MiG-31BM .. "attach" for a start .. don't you think?

                So wait, friend, is it in the arsenal of the 31st ... or is it not provided for the BM modification? On the MIG-31M is it in the arsenal ...
                1. opus
                  opus 22 November 2016 01: 24
                  +5
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  At MIG-31M, she has in the arsenal ...

                  A lope in the MIG-31M registry?

                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Or is it not provided for the modification of BM?

                  AKU-170 (E) is needed: it is used for external suspension, transportation and for ejection of the RVV-AE missile from MiG-29, Su-27, Su-30 aircraft.
                  Although it should already be (on one for sure)



                  Closed auction notice for purchase No. 0173100004515001647


                  Supply of 170-1 products for the needs of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

                  2015 by the Ministry of Defense, a tender was published for the purchase of "products 170-1".
                  http://zakupki.gov.ru/epz/order/notice/za44/view/
                  common-info.html? regNumber = 0173100004515001647
            2. mav1971
              mav1971 21 November 2016 20: 35
              +6
              Quote: NEXUS

              Friend, do you think that the P-77 at a distance of 100 km is not capable of capturing such an inconspicuous target as a lizard?


              In addition to the operating time of the engine (which gives a direct correlation - flight range) - there is also electronics of both the rocket and the carrier.
              Her GOS will be able to independently capture the lizard at a distance of only 3-4 km.
              Edge 10km in ideal conditions for her and disgusting for the pangolin.
              The correction channel does not exceed 55-60km.
              So you need to understand that you can’t deceive numbers.
              1. opus
                opus 22 November 2016 01: 43
                +6
                Quote: mav1971
                Her GOS will be able to independently capture the lizard at a distance of only 3-4 km.
                Edge 10km in ideal conditions for her and disgusting for the pangolin.

                GSN 9B1348E "gone" into the past

                MNII "Agat" since 2001 issues

                9B-1103M-200 Advanced Active Homing Radar

                At the request of the Customer, the ARGS parameters can be changed. wink
                Or maybe already like the 350th ("washer")

                9B-1103M-150 "Kolibri" in progress
                1. mav1971
                  mav1971 22 November 2016 21: 27
                  +1
                  Quote: opus

                  MNII "Agat" since 2001 issues
                  9B-1103M-200


                  What is the EPR of the Lizard?
                  So it will be ideally 10km ...
                  As I said.
          2. xtur
            xtur 21 November 2016 22: 09
            +2
            Quote: ancient
            Although the MiG-31 has not "links" in its structure, but units


            Never in articles about the MiG-31 did not talk about detachments, even when quoted different military leaders (we are talking about the regular press). I understand that there are journalists - but for many years the word has never been used detachment
            1. AIR
              AIR 26 March 2018 13: 48
              +1
              The press writes what they want. Actually, the MiG-31 belongs to the class SHIP. Accordingly, they have not units, but units. I declare responsibly, as the commander of the MiG-31 detachment.
          3. vanek77
            vanek77 22 November 2016 15: 10
            +3
            Yes, they can carry the R-77, since the AKU-170E fell into the photo. If the MiG-29SMT carries them, then what prevents the thirty-first BM from doing this. They want to equip this aircraft with new fighters coming off the assembly line, and the MiG-31BM will also be equipped with it, because it has a very large resource. Photo attached.
        2. SCHNIFER
          SCHNIFER 21 November 2016 20: 36
          +1
          At the same time, this plane "runs" the fastest of all today.

          With the modification of the BM Jacobe, new materials for the glazing of the cockpit and navigator (strength characteristics) were applied and now the mona is "for the whole piece of iron."
      2. bandabas
        bandabas 21 November 2016 15: 46
        +18
        When this AWACS for the poor was created in the USSR, the country was certainly not poor. And there are still no analogues in the world. An excellent heavy interceptor that has been upgraded. It is proved once again that there is no need to reinvent the wheel. Well, if of course it is availablegood
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 21 November 2016 16: 14
        +15
        Quote: 52gim
        Well, yes, AWACS for the poor, but with missiles ...)))

        You are very mistaken in speaking in this spirit about the MIG-31BM. This is a very serious highly specialized machine designed to intercept all types of air targets and issue target designations to ground-based air defense systems. No reduced radio visibility here will fail. And there’s no option to run away from the quiet. MiG-31bm is a very fast bird. Raptoram, fu-16,35 it is too tough, to say the least.
        1. bandabas
          bandabas 21 November 2016 17: 53
          +7
          I fully support you. Its specifics, a strong car.
        2. Strength
          Strength 21 November 2016 19: 34
          +4
          She is too tough for them. She is tough for them ....
          1. lukewarm
            lukewarm 24 November 2016 13: 49
            +10
            .
            Quote: Force
            She is too tough for them. She is tough for them ....

            Type clever, "sarcastic" cut. The deflection was taken into account by the hosts. You can breathe out. We don't care about you either ..
          2. AIR
            AIR 26 March 2018 13: 50
            +2
            In-in ... Without X .. and remain!
        3. Turai
          Turai 22 November 2016 01: 28
          +3
          If the parent of the Mig-31 Mig-25 was tough for the Phantoms, Kfirs and Mirages, then I see no reason why the 31st will not be so unhindered by the Falcons and Needles. And in order to fantasize how the MiG-31 Kills the Raptors, you need to smoke very strong rubbish.
          1. Parsec
            Parsec 22 November 2016 02: 21
            +13
            Quote: Turai
            If the parent of the Mig-31 Mig-25 was tough for the Phantoms, Kfirs and Mirages, then I see no reason why the 31st will not be so unhindered by the Falcons and Needles. And in order to fantasize how the MiG-31 Kills the Raptors, you need to smoke very strong rubbish.


            The Jew, who rushing, will give a hundred points on the show off to any Caucasian.

            "Seamlessly shattered" - this is the analytics, this is the approach.
            Nobody knows who, where, how, for what will be applied, but blyam-blyam-blyam - and they will grumble without hindrance.
            Chatterbox, near-witted talker in a frenzy.
            1. mav1971
              mav1971 22 November 2016 06: 36
              +4
              Quote: Parsec

              Chatterbox, near-witted talker in a frenzy.


              And here is the talker in a frenzy?
              A talker in a blaze is just that.

              They then fought with all our planes and even captured quite a lot.
              They then had a real experience of confrontation. And victories and defeats.
              1. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 24 November 2016 06: 51
                +1
                Quote: mav1971

                They then fought with all our planes and even captured quite a lot.
                They then had a real experience of confrontation. And victories and defeats.

                Nevertheless, the MiG-25 was shot down by our Air Force only two times in 1982. In 1971-73, not a single machine could be shot down.
              2. Vlad.by
                Vlad.by 17 October 2017 20: 46
                +3
                They fought with “our” aircraft in the distant 72nd. Then they fought with Arab planes. Unfortunately, the laying between the throttle and the chair is very critical for the combat properties of the aircraft
            2. Suhow
              Suhow 27 November 2016 20: 42
              +1
              IF I DO NOT MISTAKE, the MiG-25 at one time was a very big bummer for phantoms and as scouts they reached Tel Aviv and also left from there ... They were a headache for Israel’s air defense. Of course, a lot does not stand in revenge as well as 16 and 31 MiG.
          2. Black sniper
            Black sniper 16 October 2017 05: 51
            0
            Especially for f22 / 35 this MiG-31BM is great fun.
          3. badens1111
            badens1111 17 October 2017 20: 57
            +3
            Quote: Turai
            If the parent of Mig-31 Mig-25 was in the teeth of Phantoms, Kfirs and Mirages

            When? Is it not then when the entire Israeli Air Force ... umm, as it were, so disgraced, well, disgraced from the flight of a single MiG 25?
            Lie, do not lie.
            Quote: Parsec -Turai
            The Jew, who rushing, will give a hundred points on the show off to any Caucasian.
            "Seamlessly shattered" - this is the analytics, this is the approach.
            Nobody knows who, where, how, for what will be applied, but blyam-blyam-blyam - and they will grumble without hindrance.
            Chatterbox, near-witted talker in a frenzy.
          4. AIR
            AIR 26 March 2018 13: 55
            +2
            Then the Jews all dreamed of buying a pair of MiG-31. But the USSR offered at least two regiments, plus a simulator for each detachment. And this turns out to be about 20 pieces of simulators, which were not inferior in value to the aircraft itself !!!!
            And the MiG-25 was too tough for Phantoms and so on. crap ... Especially Mirages. The MiG-21 easily clicked those Phantoms and Kfira .... the successors of the Mirages. The historical truth!
          5. Pathos
            Pathos April 29 2018 07: 15
            +1
            Yes, you deer for 25m chased all their wounded aircraft and lifted nifiga, and we calmly shot your entire infrastructure. If you run over you moment 25, in the version of RB with small atomic, you put in your pants stink up to the puddle will be. Dig a gracious bunker.
      4. parafoiler
        parafoiler 21 November 2016 16: 46
        +1
        Yeah ... For the poor and stapler piercings.
    2. Rom14
      Rom14 21 November 2016 15: 32
      +13
      Of course, I would like to believe that our military understood EVERYTHING and will not allow the "partners" to fight the bandits to make mistakes in the future ... But what prevented you from immediately, from the very beginning of the operation, to understand that WE are in the circle of insidious and evil "friends"? ???
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 21 November 2016 16: 30
        +2
        Quote: Rom14
        But this is what prevented immediately, from the very beginning of the operation, the understanding that WE are in the circle of insidious and evil "friends" ??

        You just answered your own question.
      2. Orionvit
        Orionvit 21 November 2016 21: 02
        +6
        The scheme of combat use is understandable anyway, but for some reason the NATO "hawks" still feel at home in the skies of Syria. When at least a couple are exponentially flooded, it will be an indicator. In the meantime, only eggs are measured. But I want to believe that Russia has better eggs.
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 21 November 2016 16: 04
      +14
      Quote: Quote
      Long-range interceptor fighters were used as a tool. MiG-31BMwho deployed at the Syrian air base Queres, located in the vicinity of Aleppo.

      The world's best interceptor (long-range air defense arm)! Until now, no one could do better. OKB "Mikoyan" of the times of the USSR respect and respect good
      Now we’ll see what the vaunted Raptor and other godless evil spirits will do in the sky of Syria! hi
      1. Turai
        Turai 22 November 2016 07: 54
        +2
        Gsh-18, in his entire career, MiG-31 has never shot down anyone. Your fantasies are not enough to call him the best in the world. Moreover, he will be shot down by the Raptor, without even seeing the foe on the radar. But I will not stop you from shouting "URYA"
        1. Sobol
          Sobol 23 November 2016 16: 08
          +4
          Quote: Turai
          Gsh-18, in his entire career, MiG-31 has never shot down anyone. Your fantasies are not enough to call him the best in the world. Moreover, he will be shot down by the Raptor, without even seeing the foe on the radar. But I will not stop you from shouting "URYA"

          And how many planes shot down the f-22?
          1. badens1111
            badens1111 17 October 2017 20: 58
            +3
            Quote: SoboL
            And how many planes shot down the f-22?

            Creative question .. as long as they themselves fall.
        2. lukewarm
          lukewarm 24 November 2016 13: 52
          +5
          Quote: Turai
          But I will not stop you from shouting "URYA"

          Urya sounds better than oh-wei hi
        3. sir_obs
          sir_obs 19 October 2017 22: 34
          +2
          You so enthusiastically lick the American ass, that even somehow you really bother
          Go on, this is like meditation and all the time repeating that they are invisible.
        4. AIR
          AIR 26 March 2018 14: 05
          +2
          That invisibility still in Yugoslavia was shot down by an ordinary missile defense system of the Soviet era. Raptor shit plane. He is far from the first invisibility! Moreover, I’ll say that it is with the help of the phased array of the MiG-31 that targets with the loud name of the invisibility can be easily detected ... The principle of operation of the FR is not as built as on American planes. So in vain ulcerate. The raptors will not even know that they are already on the “attack” of the MiG-31. Death will be unexpected and therefore will not have time to stink. I declare responsibly, as having applied this technique in business. Toto SR-71 stopped flying to the New Earth! Back in the USSR. They then definitely know the abilities of our device.
    4. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 21 November 2016 17: 09
      +10
      Quote: NEXUS
      escape provocateur fail.

      "One link of the MiG-31BM, if it is necessary to conduct an air action to intimidate and displace the aviation of the western coalition from the regions of the eastern cities of Deir ez-Zor and Haseke, is able to reach these lines in just 8-10 minutes."
      By 8-10 minutes, it is necessary to plus the transit time of information about the detection of the enemy, take-off time, i.e. at least another 10 minutes. One must be a great optimist in order to assume that the takeoff of the MiG-31 link will not be noticed by the enemy. Where will the state aircraft be in 15-20 minutes? request
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 21 November 2016 17: 14
        +9
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Where will the state aircraft be in 15-20 minutes?

        Do you think that 31 all the way on the concrete road they seem to cool ... You do not take patrol into account?
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 21 November 2016 17: 32
          +7
          Quote: NEXUS
          You do not take patrol into account?

          I don’t take it, it turns out to be too fat to burn the resource, just barrage over a small territory, especially considering the rather short flight time.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 21 November 2016 17: 39
            +8
            Quote: Vladimirets
            I don’t take it, it turns out to be too fat to burn the resource, just barrage over a small territory, especially considering the rather short flight time

            Yes, not just fencing ... MIG-31 and much more to work on the earth ...

            but with air-to-air pylons and rockets ...
            However, you do not take into account refueling in the air ...
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 21 November 2016 17: 44
              +8
              Quote: NEXUS
              MIG-31 and work on land much

              Is there no one to work on the earth?
              Quote: NEXUS
              In this case, you do not take into account refueling in the air.

              Do we have refuelers in Syria? Or will we drive through Iran every time?
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 21 November 2016 17: 54
                +5
                Quote: Vladimirets
                Is there no one to work on the earth?

                Of course there is someone ... but if the 31st is capable of it, why not.
                Quote: Vladimirets
                Do we have refuelers in Syria? Or will we drive through Iran every time?

                MIG-31 in Syria not only fulfills its direct task, but also corrects the actions of our airborne forces, working as the A-50 ... so IL-78 are frequent guests in that area.
                1. Vladimirets
                  Vladimirets 21 November 2016 18: 00
                  +2
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  but if the 31st is capable of it, why not.

                  Yes, because it’s expensive, we don’t have many MiG-31BMs to exchange them for every little thing.
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 21 November 2016 18: 03
                    +9
                    Quote: Vladimirets
                    Yes, because it’s expensive, we don’t have many MiG-31BMs to exchange them for every little thing.

                    That is, adjusting the actions of the airborne forces, the functions of the air defense element, and at the end the deterrence factor for new provocations, after which people die (a Belgian plane killed 83 people for a minute), is this your trifle?
                    We drive strategists from one point of the earth to another and it is as if not expensive ...
                    1. Vladimirets
                      Vladimirets 21 November 2016 18: 10
                      +4
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      That is, the adjustment of the actions of the videoconferencing system, the functions of the PV element

                      In my opinion, the A-50 will cope with these functions more efficiently and cheaper.
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      is this your little thing?

                      You wrote that the MiG-31 can also work on the ground, but I think that, theoretically, you can crush mice with a tank, but is it worth it? IMHO, in Syria, the MiG-31 demonstrates, in the main, a "declaration of intent" than a real and effective force. That is to say, so as not to be familiar.
                      1. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 21 November 2016 18: 16
                        +6
                        Quote: Vladimirets
                        In my opinion, the A-50 will cope with these functions more efficiently and cheaper.

                        Of course ... yes, only we have less than 31 ... there is a danger of sabotage ... do we need it? Of course, they use the A-50, but I don’t think that it’s constant ...
                        Quote: Vladimirets
                        You wrote that the MiG-31 can also work on the ground,

                        Maybe why not? Another question is whether it is used in that capacity ... the main task voiced is to strengthen air defense and adjust the work of our air forces.
                      2. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 21 November 2016 18: 24
                        +9
                        Quote: Vladimirets
                        in Syria, the MiG-31 demonstrates mainly a "declaration of intent" rather than a real and effective force. That is to say, so as not to be familiar.

                        Well, why? The coalition plane flew towards the location of the Syrian troops or in the direction of Heimmy, for example, it is seen by the same S-400 radars or Kuzi's radars with Petya ... the MIG-31 link rises to intercept and escort ... so the provocateur does not have 20 minutes ... he will only fly up, and he will already be waiting with flowers and gingerbread cookies.
            2. ancient
              ancient 21 November 2016 19: 41
              +3
              Quote: NEXUS
              [Yes, not just fooling around ... MIG-31 and much more to work on the ground ...


              Andrey is from a series like with .. "Hermes" or ..about "gopher .. which is not .. but he seems to be" drinks
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 21 November 2016 19: 50
                +4
                Quote: ancient
                Andrey is from a series like with .. "Hermes" or ..about "gopher .. which is not .. but he seems to be"

                But what about 500 kg laser-guided bombs, as well as X-31P anti-radar / anti-ship missiles (up to 160 km), X-58? request
                I have already recovered, not Hermes, but Hephaestus ... drinks
        2. ancient
          ancient 21 November 2016 19: 36
          +7
          [quote = NEXUS] [quote = Vladimir] Where will the state plane be in 15-20 minutes? [/ quote]

          And there will be enough planes ... to be on duty on the ground and in the air? And what is the duty time? But tankers are not being observed .. to .. "prolong the pleasure" wink
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 21 November 2016 19: 53
            +4
            Quote: ancient
            And there will be enough planes ... to be on duty on the ground and in the air? And what is the duty time? But tankers are not being observed .. to .. "prolong the pleasure"

            Even if there is no way to boggle, the radars of the same S-400/300 and the radars of Kuzi and Petya will "see" the approach of an incomprehensible plane ... and then they will raise the 31st to intercept ... hi
      2. bandabas
        bandabas 21 November 2016 17: 35
        +5
        In the mid-90s, the MIG-31 regiment served as the air defense RTVs. (Sadness that later it was removed (like they made an airfield of the Ministry of Emergencies.) And so, there was a "second line of defense" of the North-West. We took off quickly. There was also a "first" one.
    5. 2s1122
      2s1122 21 November 2016 17: 15
      +6
      Roughly speaking, MIG-31 is a temporary gag in Syrian air defense. The article itself about this and in all colors told fool
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 21 November 2016 17: 17
        +7
        Quote: 2s1122
        Roughly speaking, MIG-31 is a temporary gag in Syrian air defense.

        Temporary is not temporary, but try to stick up ... I'm sure that those who want to see what this beast is capable of have diminished.
        1. Titsen
          Titsen 21 November 2016 21: 47
          +4
          Quote: NEXUS

          Quote: 2s1122
          Roughly speaking, MIG-31 is a temporary gag in Syrian air defense.

          Temporary is not temporary, but try to stick up ... I'm sure that those who want to see what this beast is capable of have diminished.


          The main thing is that at the right time the small intestine does not become ...
      2. Vlad.by
        Vlad.by 21 November 2016 18: 40
        +5
        Six months ago there was a conversation about this. It is about the use of MiG31 as forward observers. As they looked into the water. Now I would work on a real goal that "accidentally" went off course. It's just not a fact that such a decision will be made, although it's high time. Ripe. Moreover, 100% that sworn friends will give the back.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 21 November 2016 19: 35
          +3
          Quote: Vlad.by
          Six months ago there was a conversation about this. It is about the application of Mig31 as an advanced observer

          I also talked about this, long before the advent of the 31s in Syria ...
        2. Suhow
          Suhow 27 November 2016 20: 51
          +1
          Even so, I think the Syrians should work out the "partners" and do not care than the air defense or the air force. The smell from the same partners will be less because Syria did not call "partners" into its sky ... But it is very necessary to help them, SAR.
    6. Titsen
      Titsen 21 November 2016 21: 45
      +5
      Quote: NEXUS
      As I said earlier, the MIG-31 strengthened its air defense, plus it is partly able to work like an A-50 ... well, and if again the coalition decides to take provocation, it will not work to escape the provocateur.


      Plus, the interaction of ALL the constituent elements of the air defense is being worked out not "on foot" in a training manner, but in a "flight" in a combat way!

      Where else to try, if not in Syria!

      At the training ground, ALL cannot be brought together, but here the air defense components are for every taste!
    7. 100502
      100502 24 November 2016 14: 25
      +2
      The attack on the Syrian forces by coalition planes has already shown our capabilities.
      1. Suhow
        Suhow 27 November 2016 20: 55
        +1
        Not opportunities, but inaction and indecision, and not only the Russian Federation but also the SAR. They could at least pull something in the pursuit, at least for self-esteem. I apologize for the possibly amateurish look ...
  2. Every
    Every 21 November 2016 15: 36
    +11
    Quote: NEXUS
    As I said earlier, the MIG-31 strengthened its air defense, plus it is partly able to work like an A-50 ... well, and if again the coalition decides to take provocation, it will not work to escape the provocateur.


    That's for sure, the MIG-31 flies faster than some missiles.
    1. parafoiler
      parafoiler 21 November 2016 16: 47
      0
      Something new...
  3. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 21 November 2016 16: 12
    +4
    Unlike the "Ijis" RIM-174 ERAM, our 48N6E2 can not be launched for an over-the-horizon target for target designation of AWACS or tactical aircraft radars

    You might think that Ijis can ...
    1. mav1971
      mav1971 21 November 2016 20: 49
      +3
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

      You might think that Ijis can ...


      They can.
      After the general implementation of Link-16 on all airborne, marine carriers, it was upgraded to the NIFC level.
      It fully implements external target designation regardless of the role and type (in "ordinary life") of the "guiding" and "launching".

      Specifically to Hokai and ROME:
      NIFC-CA can combine the targeting data from a Northrop Grumman E-2D Advanced Hawkeye and send targeting information to a SM-6 to intercept an air target beyond the range of the cruiser or destroyer firing the weapon.
      1. mav1971
        mav1971 21 November 2016 21: 51
        +5
        Chasing about NIF-KU.
        Many on the site here become angry that Amers do not have RCC.
        That Harpoon is slow and short-range.
        That on Berks there is absolutely no anti-ship missiles.

        That's what happens on the Amer fleet last year.


        Any aircraft, ship, submarine equipped with NIF-Koy - can be a participant-performer-gunner of over-the-horizon guidance of SM-6 missiles.
        Rocket has already been released approximately 250-300pcs.
        So, by a simple account - now everything on warships (who is on vacation is empty) is obtained on average by 6-8 missiles on a ship.
        The release plan is almost 2000 pieces.
        Firing Range 240-450 kilometers.
        3-3.5M flight speed
        Warhead weighing 110kg.
        Few will not seem.
  4. Ivan Ivanov
    Ivan Ivanov 21 November 2016 16: 20
    +3
    It's a good thing, but why don't we act proactively, the lesson of Turkey did not teach anything, it was necessary to wait for the partners' "mistakes"?
  5. prior
    prior 21 November 2016 16: 35
    +5
    The general impression of the article is to work, work and work .... as one tavarish said.
    1. 2s1122
      2s1122 21 November 2016 17: 17
      +2
      Yes, do not work, but plow and plow like dad Carlo!
  6. Gerasim Donskoy
    Gerasim Donskoy 21 November 2016 17: 36
    +11
    Alas, combat practice in the described episodes showed that the Su-30 and Su-35 lost the sky to the Raptor F-22. And no matter how many bukaffs you print, what reasons you don’t come up with, how you don’t play on paper with terms and numbers, everything - as always, didn’t see, it’s not enough, it doesn’t reach and it doesn’t get enough. But the MiG-31 will show the adversary "Kuzkin's mother!" So, wouldn't it have been easier with the existing S-300 and S-400 to replace the "partners" who were pounding the Syrian government troops into the trash! And only then figure it out. So maybe all these air defense toys simply did not work because of the use of electronic warfare means against them !? No one has ever won victories on paper; victory is achieved only with weapons on the battlefield. And all these articles are empty blah blah, that's just for whom?
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 21 November 2016 18: 22
      +4
      Quote: Gerasim Donskoy
      combat practice in the described episodes showed that the Su-30 and Su-35 lost the sky to the Raptor F-22.

      Where does this conclusion come from? request Did they take part in air battles with each other? Can the Raptor fly by itself? Without AWACS, satellite constellation, ground reconnaissance?
      1. Gerasim Donskoy
        Gerasim Donskoy 21 November 2016 18: 51
        +7
        When your real ally, with whom you are fighting shoulder to shoulder, is hammered by "partners" over and over again, moreover, it disorganizes the front, then all these paper explanations, as well as teams of "specialists", are bullshit and a screen for explaining failures and helplessness ... Or an ally like Assad and his army is not worth a dime? Maybe we should start to be proud that not the entire Syrian army of the US Air Force has been gouged yet?
        So it was before, during the memorable Arab-Israeli wars, etc.
        1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
          Andrei from Chelyabinsk 21 November 2016 19: 06
          +6
          Quote: Gerasim Donskoy
          then all these paper explanations, as well as the teams of "specialists", are bullshit and a screen for explaining failures and helplessness.

          Nonsense. No one set our Syrian air forces to provide a no-fly zone over Syria. Su-35 and Su-30 are watching over our own aviation there, there were no other tasks for them. And it’s unlikely that they could solve this problem.
          1. Gerasim Donskoy
            Gerasim Donskoy 21 November 2016 19: 22
            +10
            Well, if the pogrom by the American Air Force of the ground group on an important sector of the front is "nonsense", then all that remains is to shrug. The success of the war decides, consolidates the ground operation, Damascus is under constant blows, and the Russian Aerospace Forces look after themselves, remembering the downed Su-24, somehow! Well, damn it, just like when crossing the Dnieper in 1943 "ours flew away, the Germans flew in!" So where did the S-300 and S-400 go? Or sense from them only on paper and in those? Air defense is obliged to cover the ground troops!
            1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
              Andrei from Chelyabinsk 21 November 2016 20: 22
              +6
              Quote: Gerasim Donskoy
              Well, if the pogrom by the American Air Force of the ground group on an important sector of the front is "nonsense", then all that remains is to make a helpless gesture.

              Well, if there is no desire to think with your head, then yes, it remains only to shrug your hands.
              The VKS in Syria has a very limited task - to beat the barmaley. VKS is not a unit of the armed forces in Syria. We do not protect Syrian sovereignty, do not protect its air borders, etc. Syria, generally speaking, is a completely independent country and must take care of itself. And certainly we will not bring down American, Israeli, or some other vehicles there, if they start to strike at Syria. Our contingent has a strictly defined task - to beat the barmalei.
              After the Su-24, it turned out that the airborne forces in Syria have opponents in addition to the barmaley. Therefore, the task of protecting their own aerospace forces in the air and on the ground was added to the attacks on barmaleys. Which (in the air) decide the Su-35/30 and S-300 on the ground. Until the Su-24 was shot down, alas, no one bothered - only the airfield was covered, and that’s all.
              And this, in fact, is correct. The United States is helping the Barmaleas with might and main, but our planes do not shoot down, although we bomb their protégés. Our protégés are Assad, but we won’t be able to shoot down American planes if they bomb him.
              1. Gerasim Donskoy
                Gerasim Donskoy 21 November 2016 22: 34
                +5
                Your head is broadcasting such nonsense from Chelyabinsk that you will admire. So what the hell are you, "Hveldmarshal", doing in Syria at all? Why did you accept the invitation to "defend" the sovereignty of the SAR and help it in the fight against the "Barmaley"? For the United States, barmaley are customers, not loyal allies! But SAR and Assad are currently the main ally for the Russian Federation, and to substitute him in this way is a political betrayal! However, a similar trick was made in Donbass by means of Minsk-2, civilians were set up under the fire of heavy artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and declared it a truce. That would be Chelyabinsk peasants to get some air, but at night in Pervomaisk LPR or Gorlovka near Zaitsevo. Or Aleppo. Brains adjust quickly.
                1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
                  Andrei from Chelyabinsk 22 November 2016 19: 31
                  +17
                  Quote: Gerasim Donskoy
                  Your head is broadcasting such nonsense from Chelyabinsk that you will fall in love with it.

                  It’s very your way - to declare nonsense that does not fit in the head
                  Quote: Gerasim Donskoy
                  So what the hell are you "hveldmarshal" doing in Syria at all?

                  My precious Ukrainian friend! Do you know what amazes me the most in the multitude of representatives of the Ukrainian nation, including you? Your holy conviction that Russia owes you something and that Russia is simply obligated to act in someone’s interests.
                  Quote: Gerasim Donskoy
                  Why did you accept the invitation to "defend" the sovereignty of the SAR and help it in the fight against the "Barmaley"?

                  Yes, we did not accept any invitation. And to us deep in the drum the sovereignty of the ATS. The sovereignty of the ATS is a personal matter of the ATS and to defend it, well, it didn’t fall sideways for us - we would have to defend our own. The first thing you should hack on your thirsty nose for a freebie - Russia is not in Syria to solve Syrian problems. Russia is in Syria in order to solve Russian problems. And Russia solves Syrian problems exactly to the extent to which the solution of these problems contributes to the solution of Russian problems. In this case, the frost-bitten Islamic state is a problem for Russia. So, its destruction, or at least global weakening is Russia's goal in Syria. And we are interested in Syrian sovereignty to the extent that it helps us solve our problem of eliminating a frostbitten state. No more, but no less. We can say that Assad was lucky - our goals regarding the Islamists coincide, and with our support, he has a much greater chance of maintaining Syrian sovereignty. But this is his task, not ours.
                  Quote: Gerasim Donskoy
                  But SAR and Assad for the Russian Federation are currently the main ally

                  The main (they are the only) allies of the Russian Federation are its army, navy and VKS. All the rest are nothing more than partners in resolving certain issues.
                  Glory to God, Syria is not Ukraine, which you kiss wherever, everywhere ... euto-black flag. They are grateful to us for the help we provide them and do not expect more. And here we are in the Urals, rejoicing that our VKS, fighting in OUR, RUSSIAN interests, also help the Syrians to maintain their sovereignty. This is good and right. We do not mind our money (taxpayer money) spent on this, and we sympathize with Assad's Syrians.
                  Quote: Gerasim Donskoy
                  and substituting it in this way is a political betrayal! However, a similar trick in the Donbass through Minsk-2 is done

                  But to Ukraine ... My friend, well, tell me, who was Minsk-2 there for you? What, do you dislike in Minsk-2? So it’s not a question, conclude Minsk-3. Or there, Tehran 43. Yes, even Aibolit-66 ...
                  Quote: Gerasim Donskoy
                  Civilians were put under the fire of heavy artillery of the Armed Forces and declared it a truce.

                  Well, do something if you are not happy. For a second - this is YOUR country. What X do you blame the Russian Federation for what is happening with YOU? When will you finally learn to be responsible for the consequences of your choice?
                  One half of Ukraine reproaches the Russian Federation for the fact that it does not give free gas and for the fact that it supports the separatists in the Donbass. The second half of Ukraine swears the Russian Federation for the fact that it does not support the separatists in the Donbass. For some reason, both are firmly convinced that the Russian Federation owes them something.
                  Listen, little brothers, when do you begin to think with your own mind? How to share buns - so this is you first, how are the problems - where does the Russian Federation look? !!!
                  Quote: Gerasim Donskoy
                  I wish the Chelyabinsk men to get aired, but at night in Pervomaisk of the LPR or in Gorlovka near Zaitsevo.

                  We did not bring our country to the state of Pervomaisk and Horlivka. We made a lot of mistakes, but there are none. So what X and I and other Ural men should substitute their head for yours there?
                  1. mav1971
                    mav1971 22 November 2016 21: 26
                    +4
                    Andrei from Chelyabinsk

                    Correct words!
                    I subscribe to each.
                    With respect!
                  2. badhoy
                    badhoy 23 November 2016 13: 17
                    +4
                    Andrei said everything correctly ...... +++++
                  3. Stena
                    Stena 23 November 2016 18: 32
                    +3
                    Well done, Uncle Andrey!
                    Right in the bullseye!
                    + 1!
    2. vasilkovichi
      vasilkovichi 8 February 2018 19: 49
      0
      After the combat use of the complex, a long and time-consuming work to change its “style” takes place, during which the complex falls out of duty, and since their main task is to protect Khmeimim and Tartus, then, perhaps, their use is not advisable for others goals?
  7. behemot
    behemot 21 November 2016 17: 41
    +5
    fellow authors, it’s true that even hedgehogs in the forest already know that IG (prohibited in the Russian Federation) is prohibited in the Russian Federation. This phrase already grated eyes. And so it was interesting to read. But, pulled out a gun, shoot. Will there be an order for destruction if the situation requires?
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 21 November 2016 19: 14
      +7
      Quote: behemot
      it was so interesting to read. But, pulled out a gun, shoot. Will there be an order for destruction if the situation requires?

      No shot will be fired. Uncle Vova wants to scare the "partners", take on the weak .. Neither Putin nor Obama (Trump) wants the Third World War. The third world is only wanted by some local idiots users.
      1. behemot
        behemot 21 November 2016 20: 00
        0
        so let's see if it will be or not.
  8. 1536
    1536 21 November 2016 19: 28
    +2
    Alarming information. The Americans are crowding out Syrian planes, bombing the positions of Syrian government troops, accusing us of carpet bombing of Aleppo, and we are all improving in the art of war. What can an interceptor fighter do against the Bondite tactics of American and NATO aircraft? To ascertain another provocation?
    1. Gerasim Donskoy
      Gerasim Donskoy 21 November 2016 19: 34
      +7
      Why "bandit tactics of American and NATO planes"? They showed their skill and skill, followed the order and gouged Moscow's real ally, whom the Russian Aerospace Forces could not help. In war, as in war!
      1. bandabas
        bandabas 21 November 2016 20: 19
        +2
        All right. Hello zhovto-blakitny. It has been a long time since "VO" had such. And judging by the registration of the profile a month and a half ago, it appeared ... Don't choke on your saliva, darling. Alager will come to you. Contagion.
        1. Gerasim Donskoy
          Gerasim Donskoy 22 November 2016 10: 26
          +4
          The LPR is not Ukraine and it is not our fault that we are being carefully pushed back there. In general, it is necessary to answer not by the color of the flag, but by the essence of the com-that. The Russian Federation itself is full of the same shit as Banderlog, for example, a certain "bandabas".
          1. bandabas
            bandabas 22 November 2016 14: 33
            +1
            I apologize. Only I'm not a banderlog. Just broke. I know my native Ukraine. Chernihiv region. Once again, please accept the apology. Wrote without thinking. That is honest. And so is Kabarda.
      2. brr1
        brr1 21 November 2016 23: 16
        +2
        Straight to the point said. That’s straight east of Ukraine one to one. The Russian army helps to slaughter banderoids, and their masters cannot help them. In war as war.
    2. behemot
      behemot 21 November 2016 20: 01
      0
      yes, state, no more, see the comment above (semurg)
  9. ancient
    ancient 21 November 2016 20: 08
    +4
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: ancient
    Andrey is from a series like with .. "Hermes" or ..about "gopher .. which is not .. but he seems to be"

    But what about 500 kg laser-guided bombs, as well as X-31P anti-radar / anti-ship missiles (up to 160 km), X-58? request
    I have already recovered, not Hermes, but Hephaestus ... drinks

    This is for another plane ... which M ... was .. there yes ... it was, but they tried from the 31st only not with BM and BSM soldier
    well, on its base there were a lot of modifications ... and one of them is the MiG-25BM ... so it ... "bullet" the Kh-58U missiles

    Photo
  10. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 21 November 2016 20: 51
    +5
    The author walks around, yes. He filled out the article with a bunch of technical details, numbers, abbreviations .... But he does not answer the main question. And the question can be formulated as follows:
    Can our group reliably protect the territories controlled by Assad from the actions of coalition aviation?
    Theoretically, yes (the author writes), considers all the options and it appears that the MiG-31 is an excellent aircraft for controlling airspace (and it’s hard to disagree with this). But this is only in theory, because here is the bottleneck in his rationale:
    in order to catch an unobtrusive enemy by surprise or prevent a theater of operations from being controlled, MiG-31BM equipped with a system of refueling in the air, which allows hours to barrage in a particular section of airspace.

    It seems that the author is right again and everything is under control. But this is only in theory, but in practice, such patrols with refueling are not carried out. Tankers are hired only to provide for our heavy bombers. and for the better, because 24 hours a day to control Syria in an instant --- this is a work for wear and such a detachment will quickly lose its combat effectiveness.
    Therefore, the MiG-31 will be good for covering the actions of our airborne forces and so that we always have at hand a trump card against NATO Avax and scouts. The engineering and flight crew will get excellent experience. the sky is a passage yard.
  11. SerB60
    SerB60 21 November 2016 21: 17
    0
    And what is heard about the planned supply of S-400 Turkey? This is how it fits into our air defense system over Syria?
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 21 November 2016 21: 29
      +1
      Quote: SerB60
      And what is heard about the planned supply of S-400 Turkey?

      - you, IMHO, hurried up with the "planned delivery"
      - "negotiations on the possibility of delivery", which are now (sort of) going on, this is far from the "delivery" itself, no? wink
      1. SerB60
        SerB60 22 November 2016 00: 10
        +2
        Such an opportunity itself bothers me ... Our weapons are to the killers of our people. Let’s immediately bring the S-500 to the States, like gas to Genichensk, even without the Pentagon’s requests.
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 22 November 2016 00: 27
          +1
          Quote: SerB60
          Such an opportunity annoys me ... Our weapon to the killers of our people

          - let's "from the opposite":
          - all Turks are "murderers of our people". Yes? No.
          - the entire leadership of Turkey is "the killers of our people." Yes? More likely no than yes.
          - Erdogan personally is "the killer of our people." Yes? Is not a fact. There was a version that Erdogash was framed by the military (they have many reasons to love him very much), and this version is no worse than all others.

          In short, it’s clear to me personally that nothing is clear. The leadership of the Russian Federation, I think, has information ... somewhat more complete wink

          - "opportunity negotiation" is about nothing
          - when the contract will be and whether it will be at all is unknown.
          - who will be "at the helm" in Turkey when (and if) it comes to the delivery of the complexes is unknown.

          That is, your "cry of Yaroslavna", it is premature, at least.

          I spoke exactly about this yes
  12. Cananecat
    Cananecat 21 November 2016 22: 20
    +7
    I never cease to be amazed at our operational planning in Syria ... why, in order to do something, we need to get it in the nose? Chechen war, Georgian war, now Syria and again we are "taught". How long? Either the analytes should be driven from the headquarters, or it's in our blood ... it's a shame for our contingent in Syria. With a competitive technology, we allow ourselves to be spanked. Yes, etit ... what else needs to happen and how many Peshkovs are needed, what would the Ministry of Defense start thinking?
  13. jonht
    jonht 22 November 2016 03: 43
    +1
    As far as I remember, the Syrian Su-24s were unarmed, and they went to our s-400, so there is still a big question who won from that incident .... The capabilities of the Mig-31s were never fully advertised and I don’t think that Now we know everything about him .... This aircraft was originally sharpened to intercept low-flying, small and inconspicuous targets on the background of the earth, and the modernization program seemed to take into account the appearance of 5-generation aircraft.
    As the saying goes, "Let's see." (and the plane is really unique) wink
  14. sharkmen
    sharkmen 22 November 2016 10: 51
    0
    Hello everyone. of the Damans, of course he is still igzperd, but so far it seems like trying to use the old fears of NATO, and not to increase the pressure in the sky. For a long time there are enough funds and precedents to work on violators - there is no determination yet. and without it, at least a hundred instant-31s, no one will feel the difference.
  15. Pimply
    Pimply 22 November 2016 12: 56
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    Damn, as I guessed from the first lines, who wrote the article? 8)
    Damantsev, pischischo, with such texts "Comedy" is not necessary
  16. forest park 86
    forest park 86 23 November 2016 11: 46
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    [quote = Titsen
    The main thing is that at the right moment the gut does not become thin ... [/ quote]



    So far, our plane has been shot down.
    It is unlikely that we will act like the Turks.
    And who prevents us from sometimes "making mistakes" like mattress toppers do?
  17. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 23 November 2016 13: 01
    +1
    Media: The reason for the fall of the MiG-29 in the Mediterranean is fuel production
    It is reported that, contrary to information previously circulated, the MiG-29KR in its last flight did not have any technical failures, including engine failures, and was lost for another completely different reason.
    The blog reports that after the departure from the aircraft carrying cruiser was completed on the morning of November 13, a group of three MiG-29KR aircraft began landing on the ship. The landing of the first aircraft was successful, but when landing the second fighter, the second cable of the braking device - the air finisher was broken, while the broken cable of the second one was confused with the third, making it impossible to use it.
    Although the second MiG-29KR successfully braked on the deck, catching on the fourth cable, due to the inability to use the aero finisher, the third fighter was ordered to stay in the air in the waiting area until the aero finisher was fixed.
    Due to lack of agility, the deck crew of "Admiral Kuznetsov" could not fix the air arrestor as soon as possible - the source describes what happened on the deck of the cruiser after the accident of the air arrestor as a "mess". As a result, the third fighter, loitering in the air in the holding area, ran out of fuel, and its pilot was forced to eject.
    Life recalls that on November 14, 2016, the media news agency reported about the fall of the Russian MiG-29KR fighter from the air group of the aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov" into the Mediterranean Sea. The reason for the fall of the media was called the sudden shutdown of both engines.
    After the fall of the fighter, Life experts considered possible versions of this incident. Https: //life.ru/t/%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BC%D0
    %B8%D1%8F/935772/smi_prichina_padieniia_migh-29_v
    _sriediziemnom_morie _ - _ vyrabotka_topliva
  18. Alexey Ilyin
    Alexey Ilyin 24 November 2016 17: 18
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    MiG-31 is a very good aircraft. But his potential opponents are not made with a finger. Therefore, no hatred is needed. Even the F-16, not to mention the F-15 and even more so - the Raptor - are very serious opponents.
    Check out what "Military Parity" writes.

    http://www.militaryparitet.com/perevodnie/data/ic
    _perevodnie / 7281 /

    Why India refused to buy MiG-31
    19 2015 of August

    After 2006, with the advent of remote sensing satellites and synthesized aperture radars, the Indian Air Force retired all their MiG-25s. After their cancellation, Russia proposed more modern long-range fighter-interceptors MiG-31 with ultra-long-range missiles. The Indian government accepted the Russian proposal and asked the Air Force to study the issue, but in the end the Air Force rejected the deal and ordered an additional batch of Su-30MKI.

    Indian Air Force made the right decision, because Probable opponents have good fighters and missiles to withstand the MiG-31. The Pakistani F-16 Block 52, armed with AIM-120 AMRAAM missiles, can easily cope with the MiG-31.
  19. mkonev
    mkonev 25 November 2016 04: 01
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    Farewell squeak from the USSR, a powerful radar on the MIG-31. Go Russia!
  20. SerZh1972
    SerZh1972 23 October 2017 11: 03
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    Quote: Turai
    MIG-31 has never shot down anyone in its entire career. Your fantasies are not enough

    The fact is that in order to understand that such fish is rotten and such people are to blame for it, it is completely unnecessary to know the fishing technology, the device of an industrial refrigerator and have the certificate of a captain of a fishing trawler - a healthy enough, not clogged with snot, nose and some brains in the head. (c)
  21. 7gor
    7gor 30 January 2018 23: 56
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    C'mon, what's the fence here! We’ll fight, it will be seen there! Realist
  22. Bell pepper
    Bell pepper 5 May 2018 22: 00
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    The R-37 super-long-range guided missile on the marching flight section has the ability to passively aim at a distant radiation source (operating radar of an enemy fighter or AN / APY-2 radar of E-3C aircraft), so the interceptor crew can attack the target only according to STR or target designation. Small EPR fighter aircraft of the F-22A or F-35A type may also be attacked.undetectable by the Barrier at ranges of more than 120-140 km. Activation of ARGSN in the immediate vicinity of the target will complete the interception: a full-fledged “let-forget” principle is implemented

    it means that the missile is not 100% able to detect the F 35 / F22 radar, it is necessary to create more modern missiles with powerful processors and more powerful power, because it was possible to detect an enemy aircraft and shoot it down.
    1) The otorium radar stands at F35 and F 22 changes its frequency many times per second, and does not continuously emit the same signal.
    2) Pilots receive special instructions when and how much time to launch their radars, because the Russian REB complexes did not record their honest range.
    3) Americans are not stupid, as you think.

    MiG 31 is an EXCELLENT aircraft, but it is imperative to upgrade the RADAR and the armament and armament control complex.
    MiG 31 + electronic lineup Su 57+ noise immunity SU 34 here it will be the very best interceptor-interceptor in the world.