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Media: in the Crimea restored combat capability of the mine complex "Rock"

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In the Crimea, the division of the coastal missile complex "Utes" was restored, Interfax message source familiar with the situation.




“It is assumed that the revived complex will conduct several missile launches in order to prove its viability. In the future, it is planned to deploy a silo-based Bastion missile system at its base,
said the source.

Earlier, another source informed the agency about the possible deployment of a mine-based complex in the Crimea up to 2020 of the Bastion complex.

“It will use both the existing anti-ship Yakhonts and the promising missile variants currently being developed that will be able to destroy any target located in the Black Sea area,” the source said.

According to him, the mine way of deploying missiles will significantly increase the combat stability of the complex, and, therefore, the security of the peninsula.

“Stationary deployment will make an irreversible blow of retaliation against any ship that invades the territorial waters of the Russian Black Sea coast,” the source said.

He noted that the mine can withstand “excessive pressure in the front of a shock wave with a force up to 20 kgf / sq. cm".

Help agency: "Complex" Bastion "is designed to protect the coastline over the length of 600 km and defeat surface ships of various classes and types, operating as part of amphibious units, convoys, shipboard and carrier strike groups, as well as single ships and ground radio contrast targets Intensive fire and electronic countermeasures. The Yakhont missile is capable of hitting targets at a distance of 300 km and carrying a warhead weighing more than 200 kg. "
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  1. killganoff
    killganoff 19 November 2016 08: 57
    +25
    We bristled something in the last year ... If you want peace, get ready for war.
    1. hirurg
      hirurg 19 November 2016 08: 59
      +27
      Truly an unsinkable aircraft carrier.
      1. OLD FART
        OLD FART 19 November 2016 09: 01
        +41
        Quickly restored, well done ..! Ancient Ukrainians did not manage to pull and dig all ...))))
        1. dima-fesko
          dima-fesko 19 November 2016 09: 10
          +18
          Ancient Ukrainians didn’t manage to pull and dig everything ..

          Most likely, the ancient Ukrainians in a hurry will begin to prepare a lawsuit that, without their knowledge, they were not allowed to pull everything away and, as you put it, to dig it up .....!
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 19 November 2016 09: 18
            +22
            Quote: dima-fesko
            Most likely, the ancient Ukrainians in a hurry will begin to prepare a lawsuit that, without their knowledge, they were not allowed to pull everything apart and, as you put it, to dig up ....

            And how many such claims have already been, colleague. request Crimea is Russia, on our territory we dig where we want, and to draggers on the head and hands. yes
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 20 November 2016 02: 00
              +1
              I don’t understand one thing. What are we happy about?
              Restored another launcher, or is it what has already been discussed?

              https://topwar.ru/58606-znamenityy-obekt-sotka-sn
              ova-v-stroyu.html
        2. novobranets
          novobranets 19 November 2016 09: 26
          +19
          Quote: STARPER
          Ancient Ukrainians did not manage to pull and dig everything ...

          Have time. What would these, but did not have time to steal that is bad.All cables, pipes, lifts ... bye-bye, everything had to be restored. But now ...
          1. tundra
            tundra 19 November 2016 10: 56
            +4
            Quote: novobranets
            All cables, pipes, lifts ... bye-bye, everything had to be restored. But now ...

            The pipes must have rusted, the cables fail to properly maintain the identity.
            The premises remained cleaned, and new communications are easier to put than old ones to remodel.
            Now we have to wait for the claim from the horses, like give Christ for the help in modernization laughing
            1. Sterlya
              Sterlya 19 November 2016 14: 44
              +2
              Quote: tundra
              The pipes must have rusted, the cables fail to properly maintain the identity.

              Well yes. Everything turns into dust over time. Only the hooohlls do it fast
          2. Alex777
            Alex777 20 November 2016 14: 25
            +1
            I wonder why you have romantic palm trees in the photo, and in the article do the banal bushes create the background? smile
            1. novobranets
              novobranets 20 November 2016 14: 31
              0
              This is a question for the photographer. And I don’t think that there is only one launcher.
            2. tundra
              tundra 21 November 2016 10: 41
              0
              Quote: Alex777
              why do you have romantic palm trees in the photo

              Quote: novobranets
              This is a question for the photographer.

              I think that for the screen saver they took a frame from the movie "Single swimming."
              He was filmed there.
        3. Chertkov Oleg
          Chertkov Oleg 19 November 2016 09: 31
          +26
          CHARACTERISTICS
          Firing range, km: - PKR P-35B to 270 - ASM “Progress” to 460 Flight height of the P-35B rocket, m from 400 to 7500 SPU length - 13,5 m, width - 2,86 m, height - 3,53 m. Launcher: - stationary type, stored in underground storage - number of missiles at 2 launchers
          Source: http://bastion-opk.ru/utes-rk/ OVT "WEAPON OF THE DOMESTIC" AVKarpenko

          And these are the consequences of the management of "black miners".
          1. nik39reg
            nik39reg 19 November 2016 21: 17
            +3
            So it turns out they didn’t restore it, but again they paved and installed everything !!!
        4. lukewarm
          lukewarm 19 November 2016 10: 46
          +4
          laughing So there was no time for the ancient Ukrainians - they dug the sea.
          1. Sterlya
            Sterlya 19 November 2016 22: 06
            0
            Quote: unwillingly
            laughing So there was no time for the ancient Ukrainians - they dug the sea.

            Strange people.
        5. antivirus
          antivirus 20 November 2016 19: 47
          0
          now pay + 5 rubles to 1 liter of gasoline and silently endure, do not give in
          1. The stranger
            The stranger 21 November 2016 04: 51
            +2
            And who does not feed his army - feed someone else's.
            Freestuff gasoline do not choke?
      2. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 21 November 2016 11: 35
        0
        That's for sure, let them try now ..... but although I’m sure, they won’t even try, well aware of the consequences of any assault in a modern war .... soldier
    2. Barakuda
      Barakuda 19 November 2016 09: 04
      +23
      Yes, we did not bristle, but we catch up over the past years that we were inactive.
      1. OLD FART
        OLD FART 19 November 2016 09: 21
        +11
        Quote: Barracuda
        Yes, we did not bristle, but we catch up over the past years that we were inactive.

        During the years of the USSR, in Crimea, we built a lot of interesting things underground ... To clear, start new equipment, to disguise! This is the fortress of men, there you can deploy it ... good Mama don't cry ...
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 19 November 2016 09: 30
          +9
          Quote: STARPER
          This is the fortress of men, there you can deploy it ...

      2. 210ox
        210ox 19 November 2016 09: 25
        +6
        What they restored so well done! I’m confused by the basing. And the characteristics of resisting the shock wave-20bar is a little for the shock wave. Let's say it is an explosion of large ammunition nearby, and modern weapons will fall precisely into the launcher or the cover of the shaft-cover there is large in area.
        1. OLD FART
          OLD FART 19 November 2016 11: 22
          +5
          Quote: 210ox
          I’m confused by basing. And the characteristics of resisting a shock wave of 20 bars are a little for a shock wave. Let's say an explosion of large ammunition nearby, and modern weapons will fall exactly into the launcher or the cover of the shaft-cover there is large in area.

          The protection will be set accordingly ... Several echelons, all that can be in our reserve .. I am sure of that! If the world kneading begins, Crimea will stand for a long time .. Until the last soldier who has time to press the red button ... soldier I hope this does not happen, too cowardly west ..
          1. Evgenijus
            Evgenijus 20 November 2016 19: 46
            +2
            ... have time to press the red button

            The button is not red, but the inscription "combat mode" - exactly on a red flashing background, but with "music" ... wink
        2. Vladimir Postnikov
          Vladimir Postnikov 19 November 2016 23: 41
          0
          and modern weapons will fall precisely into the launcher or shaft cover

          You're right. The lid is a weak spot there with exact coordinates. The photo clearly shows that the lid is sliding, and quite light. Near you will have to install something from the electronic warfare. But, the exact coordinates will remain unchanged, and here all the electronic warfare means are powerless.
          1. The stranger
            The stranger 21 November 2016 05: 18
            +1
            Come on. The coordinates of the barracks are also known, and there are tanks, guns, missiles.
            For some reason, no one is worried.
            Who will shoot at these mines? So they themselves will shoot back in time, the soldiers will wash off, and there they broke bricks - they didn’t beat them - who cares?
            Once he served in the border motorized rifle regiment. On alarm "military danger" the regiment was handed over to the police for 20 hours, under guard. On alarm without restrictions, when they themselves blocked the border instead of the border guards, after 10 minutes the last sappers left the territory, arranging their surprises. If they hadn't come back, the local Chernobil would have been there for XNUMX years. Well, the exclusion zone. I believe it is so everywhere.
          2. Black Separ
            Black Separ 21 November 2016 13: 10
            +2
            The cover that is visible - it is from atmospheric precipitation (on the cover that is not visible in the picture - it is below the platform level) :)
            1. The stranger
              The stranger 21 November 2016 15: 13
              0
              I'm not very special in intelligence, so that prompted. Three days, ten days. Frontal, no more. Archeology is not particularly taught. And he himself, by the simplicity of his soul, stretched more in the infantry. There, besides bayonets, there is also artillery, and not every time you look directly in the eye when you chop with a shovel.
        3. bk316
          bk316 21 November 2016 16: 17
          +2
          20 bar is far in the depth of the zone of complete destruction (the border of the full and strong zone is 0,5 bar)
          for fab-500 it is 22 meters
          That is, in order to damage such a cover, you need to get exactly into it. as far as I know there are no launch pads resistant to DIRECT hit.
      3. dedBoroded
        dedBoroded 19 November 2016 10: 50
        +3
        Good must be with fists!
    3. cesar65
      cesar65 19 November 2016 10: 20
      +3
      Quote: killganoff
      We bristled something in the last year ... If you want peace, get ready for war.
      Do not want to feed your army, you will feed someone else's.
      1. OLD FART
        OLD FART 19 November 2016 11: 04
        +24
        We actually took Crimea from under the nose of the United States ... I think that all this Maidan in Kiev was conceived to take Crimea from Russia completely ... If NATO had dug in everything, farewell to Crimea and Russia! They would have deployed such things there that we would not have had time to "rock the boat" ... And Ukraine without Crimea, for the United States it is a "petty war" reaching for the Russians .. The annexation of Crimea to Russia, I think, saved Russia from destruction and moral degradation. .Thanks to everyone who stood there and waited for help realizing the seriousness of the situation! The conversation is going on, it seems like a monument to this event on Red Square needs to be erected ... I'm FOR!
    4. RASKAT
      RASKAT 19 November 2016 12: 01
      0
      and currently developing promising missile options
      Stick in the cells for calibers and zircons, if someone wants to go into the Black Sea at all.
    5. NordUral
      NordUral 19 November 2016 19: 21
      0
      And where to go then? Who would know.
  2. Zibelew
    Zibelew 19 November 2016 08: 59
    +12
    We are peaceful people, but our armored train stands on a siding. Well done that restore the position in the Crimea. We wouldn’t have done, the Americans had done.
  3. Barakuda
    Barakuda 19 November 2016 09: 03
    +9
    Crimea is an unsinkable submarine. and aircraft carrier in the Black Sea.
    Well done! yes
    1. just exp
      just exp 19 November 2016 09: 38
      +1
      there’s no need to drown, it’s enough to smell good enough.
      all the same, it is worth realizing that the stationary complex has the coordinates already known to everyone, and will be covered first of all.
      the only question is how strong the protective structures are and how they are covered from the air.
      1. lukewarm
        lukewarm 19 November 2016 10: 48
        0
        Anyway, there will be no excess.
        Quote: just explo
        and will be covered first.

        So he will be covered.
  4. McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 19 November 2016 09: 03
    +6
    Crimea is the coolest aircraft carrier in Europe
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 19 November 2016 09: 04
    +3
    He noted that the mine can withstand “excessive pressure in the front of a shock wave with a force up to 20 kgf / sq. cm".

    In addition, what measures are still being taken to protect the probable enemy from missile and bomb strikes?
    For mine installations, I think the main enemy of the USA AUGOM TOMAHWAKS and then NATO strike aircraft ... all this requires additional protection from the air.
    1. vadimalehin76
      vadimalehin76 19 November 2016 09: 24
      +8
      And C 400 and his brethren, then why. If I remember correctly (Correct if that) just C 400 is based in the Crimea.
      1. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 19 November 2016 09: 35
        +7
        Quote: vadimalehin76
        And C 400 and his brethren, then why.

        Then, that the S-400 is an air defense system (an airplane, a rocket, etc. flying shell), and "Balls", "Cliffs", "Bastions" are anti-ship complexes that must destroy everything that floats ... um .. . goes through the akyan seas within the range soldier hi
        1. vadimalehin76
          vadimalehin76 19 November 2016 10: 45
          +2
          That is exactly what I had in mind. But thanks anyway comrade hi drinks
          1. Rurikovich
            Rurikovich 19 November 2016 10: 51
            +2
            Quote: vadimalehin76
            That is exactly what I had in mind. But thanks anyway comrade hi drinks

            You're welcome soldier drinks
        2. oldzek
          oldzek 19 November 2016 13: 12
          +1
          RURIKOVIC! REMEMBER: sailors go to the seas, and ships and vessels sail. Well, we will understand the sinking ourselves by necessity of both of them.
          1. Winnie76
            Winnie76 19 November 2016 15: 07
            +3
            Quote: oldzek
            Rurikovich! REMEMBER: sailors go to the seas, and ships and ships sail.

            It turns out your ships still sail. I suspect many will not agree laughing . But what about a screw that has a pitch?

            In general, such verbal "professional" vye..ny (I can not find another word) really pissed off. There are rules of the Russian language by which sailors sail, and if professional sailors think that they sail, this is their internal affair. 50 percent of the inhabitants are sure that the sailors swim and from the point of view of the Russian language they are right. And you, oldzack, remind me of a guard who will pronounce "condemned" with an emphasis on "U" and do not care about all the other 90% of the population who speak differently. Like "professional pride" ...
            1. Krabik
              Krabik 20 November 2016 08: 28
              0
              If you think logically, then sailors go because they are on the ship and walk on the deck, and not swim in the sea.
              From this we can conclude that the ship itself is sailing.

              But this is all a pun, essentially nitpicking to the interlocutor ...
    2. Barakuda
      Barakuda 19 November 2016 09: 28
      +9
      Not quite from the air, but from the ground. Tomahawk will fly over the sea surface, which simplifies detection. Unless Ukraine, where I am, is completely crazy.
      This is where Armor and Buki are needed. But Migov-31s will not be enough for everything.
  6. Terminolol
    Terminolol 19 November 2016 09: 10
    +1
    Is this a waste of money? First of all, strikes are carried out at stationary defense points. With current anti-bunker ammunition, protection from the times of the USSR will help? Isn't it better to spend money on mobile weapons systems then?
    1. Kosmotoga
      Kosmotoga 19 November 2016 09: 15
      +4
      Yes, there may recovery may not have cost much. Roughly speaking, they smeared, they touched sandals.
  7. BOB044
    BOB044 19 November 2016 09: 13
    +4
    It’s nice to know that our Russia is being protected so that whoever snoops around doesn't seem to him much. Unless of course he has time to realize it. But I think that he will not have time to understand.
  8. vadimalehin76
    vadimalehin76 19 November 2016 09: 21
    +2
    Great news! Protection of Homelands is growing. And this, can not but rejoice.
  9. Smog
    Smog 19 November 2016 09: 23
    +9
    In 1996, "Object 100" was transferred to the Naval Forces of Ukraine and ceased to exist (((.
    Engineers and workers of the Black Sea Fleet missile and artillery armament repair plant restored the [2nd] coastal missile division of the famous Sotka missile complex, which is located near the village of Reserve.


    Although the legacy of the great puppeteers still remains ...... [quote] [/ quote]
  10. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 19 November 2016 09: 23
    +3
    A powerful addition to the defensive system of the Crimea is good. Someone will be extremely dissatisfied with this news, let them grit their teeth with powerlessness.
  11. Wolka
    Wolka 19 November 2016 09: 27
    +3
    wonderful, adversary in the horn ...
  12. axay032
    axay032 19 November 2016 09: 29
    +3
    Quote: The same Lech
    He noted that the mine can withstand “excessive pressure in the front of a shock wave with a force up to 20 kgf / sq. cm".

    In addition, what measures are still being taken to protect the probable enemy from missile and bomb strikes?
    For mine installations, I think the main enemy of the USA AUGOM TOMAHWAKS and then NATO strike aircraft ... all this requires additional protection from the air.


    For this, shells, beeches and electronic warfare are provided, I think the air defense of this facility is up to standard
  13. cannabis
    cannabis 19 November 2016 09: 43
    +2
    The bastions are very good! It is only necessary to have in VIDU that Crimea always and ALL captured from the northern side.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 19 November 2016 11: 40
      +2
      Quote: cunning
      It is only necessary to have in VIDU that Crimea always and ALL captured from the northern side.


      IMHO, the greatest danger is posed by "sleeping" groups of pro-Ukrainian terrorists from among the Ukrainians, Russian and Crimean Tatars. Among the latter, there is a large number of adherents of the so-called. "Mejlis", who returned from DAISH and sent to the SBU of Ukraine. They are imprisoned for "D-hour" to start riots and bloody massacres on the peninsula, but for now they wear a mask of respectable Russians and guard ribbons on their lapels. A hidden enemy is always more dangerous than an open one.
      1. cannabis
        cannabis 19 November 2016 12: 22
        0
        This porridge is cooked by the Anglo-Saxons. What do we know about them? 1. Everything is done with the wrong hands. 2. The main method is bleeding and separation. 3. The main method is the overthrow of power (bribery, betting on traitors, slander). What do we know about ourselves?
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 19 November 2016 09: 43
    +1
    the revived complex will conduct several missile launches in order to prove its viability

    And one of the authors on the other branch expressed concern for Russian territory, which could be subjected to neither more nor less than an attack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
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    1. Lelek
      Lelek 19 November 2016 11: 46
      +2
      Quote: rudolff
      I wish BabuKlava would be restored.


      I am afraid that modern boats will not be able to enter the "canals" in size. But it is quite possible to adapt the object for something useful not only for cavers and divers, but the work is endless, and not small funds will be required.
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        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 19 November 2016 15: 10
          +4
          Quote: rudolff
          Of course, the Varshavyanka will not fit in close. If only Cupid 950

          Rudolph, hello! drinks
          VIKI provides such data on the 825 GTS facility:
          - channel length --602 m
          - depth - 8,0 m
          - the width varies - 12-22m.
          In the rocky shelter could simultaneously accommodate 7 units.
          What we have now.
          According to the dimensions of the main types of our DPL (length / width greatest / draft by midship):
          - pr 677 "Lada": L = 66,7m; d = 7,1m; T = 6,7m;
          - pr 877 "Halibut": L = 73,8m; d = 9,9m; T = 6,2m.
          Project 636 "Varshavyanka" has approximately the same dimensions as "Halibut".
          Previously, 613 and 633 projects were based there.
          But 641 projects also entered the dungeon! (L = 91,3m; d = 7,4m; T = 5,9m.). (Pictured)
          So, it all depends on the availability of a decision of the Defense Council and the availability of money.
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        2. Vladimir Postnikov
          Vladimir Postnikov 19 November 2016 23: 53
          +1
          Sorry. So much labor has been invested, such an infrastructure.

          Many, oh, many drones still do not take into account. There are completely different sizes. This is the future of submarine forces. So do not rush to regret ahead of time.
      2. Igor Polovodov
        Igor Polovodov 20 November 2016 19: 32
        0
        Small, but no less formidable "unmanned" submarines, this place is just created for them !!!
  16. da Vinci
    da Vinci 19 November 2016 09: 55
    +1
    Wasn't this complex starring in one of the main roles in the movie "Solo Voyage"? what
    1. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 19 November 2016 11: 40
      0
      Yes Yes. This is the same "weaving", torn apart by those dill, whose ancestors dug the Black Sea.
  17. Barakuda
    Barakuda 19 November 2016 09: 59
    +2
    Yes, do not upload pictures from e-net. And so everyone knows with us where it is and what. And from which bay you need to approach, well, then plunge.
    And to be honest - the monument to hard workers, engineers need to be built, to ward off this.
  18. jeka424
    jeka424 19 November 2016 10: 03
    0
    A recharge how much time is interesting? The enemy ship may not be 1 not 2 but more
  19. clinch63
    clinch63 19 November 2016 10: 13
    +3
    Why is everyone worried that a stationary object will be bombed? It is also "restored" specifically for the utilization of enemy strike potential. We restored one launcher and launched a beautiful picture in the media for disinformation. But this is only between us. The enemy is listening.
  20. andrewkor
    andrewkor 19 November 2016 10: 29
    +1
    But is this not the complex that appeared in one of Jackie Chan’s films? There are still Ukrainians who sold the nuclear warhead to terrorists !!
    1. jjj
      jjj 19 November 2016 17: 04
      0
      A couple of days ago they just showed it. Only shown to be sold by our
  21. shinobi
    shinobi 19 November 2016 10: 36
    0
    They hinted at the consequences for the landing from the sea, so that there weren’t even thoughts. All the same, the miners are very vulnerable against modern weapons. Here the bet goes on mobile systems. Hit and hid while flying.
    1. OLD FART
      OLD FART 19 November 2016 11: 59
      0
      Quote: shinobi
      A hint of maydanuti on the consequences for landing from the sea.

      Yes, and here Svidomo ... From the Crimea, we keep the floor of Europe under control, and possibly even more! From Crimea, all NATO bases can be extinguished and still alive ... there have been digging this since the days of the USSR! Crimea is a powerful bunker, not in vain in our entire history they have constantly tried to capture and tear it from Russia ...
  22. jeka424
    jeka424 19 November 2016 11: 15
    0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oipmvdJEMLc это он?
  23. HMR333
    HMR333 19 November 2016 12: 00
    0
    bastion by sea 350 km by land 450 km! not 300 km!
    1. Knight Rider
      Knight Rider 19 November 2016 13: 11
      0
      Quote: HMR333
      bastion by sea 350 km by land 450 km! not 300 km!

      300 km is an export yacht. Our onyx, of course, beats away
  24. masiya
    masiya 19 November 2016 12: 12
    0
    They didn’t fray it during the time of independence, and the fact that they were restored is just excellent !!!
  25. Evil 55
    Evil 55 19 November 2016 12: 55
    +5

    We have already seen the launch of a rocket from this system, in the film "Solo Voyage", 1986.
  26. Old26
    Old26 19 November 2016 14: 35
    +5
    Quote: RASKAT
    Stick in the cells for calibers and zircons, if someone wants to go into the Black Sea at all.

    And what does "Onyx" do not suit you? Is it obligatory to offer the subsonic "Caliber" and the non-existent "Zircon"?

    Quote: Spartanez300
    A powerful addition to the defensive system of the Crimea is good. Someone will be extremely dissatisfied with this news, let them grit their teeth with powerlessness.

    I have to put a spoonful of tar in your barrel of honey euphoria.

    Guys!!! Restored DIVISION. It TWO POSITIONS with launchers. That is, the position can release FOURE missiles. We change them to Onyxes in the coastal units due to the fact that this missile NOT ABLE go at low altitude. And because of its size, it has a very large RCS. Even the old American Talos complexes shot them down at a distance of 100-150 km. So that CURRENTLY this is not a powerful increase. This is only an application for the future, after the establishment of the "Onyx" there
  27. blind
    blind 19 November 2016 15: 19
    0
    a good start and what about the underground submarine base?
    1. igorlvov
      igorlvov 19 November 2016 15: 57
      0
      museum, there is no point in restoring it; the boats of the new project will not enter the adit.
      We restored only the first division on the hundredth, the second is easier to rebuild and probably cheaper
  28. Zomanus
    Zomanus 20 November 2016 04: 02
    0
    I hope that the missiles there will not be the ones that used to be.
    And then I saw a video of rocket launch from this complex.
    It looked very slow, just very slow.
  29. Monarchist
    Monarchist 20 November 2016 09: 06
    0
    It is necessary, and if we take into account the neighbors and "sworn well-wishers", then it is absolutely crucial
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 20 November 2016 19: 58
      0
      it is not necessary to press the number of installations. and pulling "the mustache" (in turn from Belarus and Crimea-Donbas) until they get tired
  30. Old26
    Old26 20 November 2016 14: 29
    +2
    Quote: Zomanus
    I hope that the missiles there will not be the ones that used to be.
    And then I saw a video of rocket launch from this complex.
    It looked very slow, just very slow.

    Now while "Progress". Their maximum speed is up to 1,5M. It goes to the maximum range at an altitude of 7 km. The final section - when the GOS starts to work - 50 km. Then it can decrease, but the flight height is still at least 25 meters. And what is 25 meters - this is the height of a 10-storey building. In the future, they are going to install the Bastion complex with Onyx missiles. But it is not yet clear what it will be. The stationary "Bastion" has vertical launchers spaced at a certain distance. It is not yet clear how this issue will be resolved in this position.
  31. Katman
    Katman 20 November 2016 18: 26
    +1
    You won’t believe it, it’s nice to cry to know that in my country there are so many military specialists who, left and right on the Internet, tell everyone about the technical characteristics of everything that comes to mind. Why aren't they sitting? Well, yes, you don’t really shoot from the sofa. I have a weapon that no one else knows. Selling inexpensively, billions for 1000. Who is the first?
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 20 November 2016 19: 59
      0
      buy cheaper than you offer
  32. Old26
    Old26 20 November 2016 20: 36
    +1
    Quote: Katman
    You won’t believe it, it’s nice to cry to know that in my country there are so many military specialists who, left and right on the Internet, tell everyone about the technical characteristics of everything that comes to mind.

    Are you not one of those who secretly leave the stamp even on the "Maxim" machine gun?
    I wonder who this secret is for. Probably for you. Well, certainly not for the Americans, because these systems were in service with Bulgaria and Yugoslavia ...
  33. doubovitski
    doubovitski 21 November 2016 02: 10
    +1
    Quote: 210ox
    What they restored so well done! I’m confused by the basing. And the characteristics of resisting the shock wave-20bar is a little for the shock wave. Let's say it is an explosion of large ammunition nearby, and modern weapons will fall precisely into the launcher or the cover of the shaft-cover there is large in area.

    The shock wave attenuates inversely with the distance to the fourth degree. That is, squared faster than the illumination decreases. Do not think that the mine has a direct exit to the surface and is not covered by anything from above and from the sides. resistance to explosion guarantees virtually direct contact. And not the fact that the object will shoot ANSWER.
    1. The stranger
      The stranger 21 November 2016 08: 16
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      It is in the air.
      In the ground, it tends to behave strangely, including - amplify.
      Inhomogeneity, however. With the ensuing.
      1. Parsec
        Parsec 22 November 2016 02: 03
        +1
        Quote: Alien
        including - intensify.
        Inhomogeneity, however. With the ensuing.


        Impulse effect - and intensify on heterogeneities (I wrote your inhomogeneities in Russian)? Where does the extra energy come from? The laws of conservation of energy and momentum are induced, well.

        FAB-50 high-explosive bombs with instant-action detonators, when operating on manpower sheltered in trenches, defeat only when they break in the immediate vicinity of the shelter. So in the area of ​​Mal. Sand one FAB-50 with an instant fuse exploded 0.8 m from the course of the message. A bomb formed a crater with a diameter of 1.6 m and a depth of 0.3 m. A loose parapet on the opposite side of the message was loosened by fragments of the bomb; any other destruction, and in particular the collapse of the walls, the explosion of the bomb did not cause.

        High-explosive bombs of large caliber. The radius of destruction from the explosion of these aerial bombs near light fortifications exceeds the radius of the funnel more than one and a half times, and for the FAB-500 and FAB-1000 it is approximately equal to the two radii of the funnel.
        So, from the explosion, apparently, the FAB-1000, dropped with a fuse set to slow down, and falling into the area of ​​the location of light open slots-shelters, having only anti-fragmentation of 20-30 mm boards and a layer of earth 0.3-0.4 thick m, dug in sandy soil, a funnel 5,5 m deep and 22 m in diameter formed; the following damage was done:
        a) the slots remote from the center of the explosion at 16 m were completely destroyed, part of the personnel who were in them were killed and some were seriously injured;
        b) open slots, remote from the center of the explosion by 25 m, had cracks in steepnesses up to 5 cm wide; a collapse of steepness or any other kind of destruction by a bomb explosion was not caused;
        c) slots removed 31 m from the center of the explosion did not show any signs of damage.


        Cited from "The effectiveness of aviation in terms of manpower and technical means of combat."
        How do you randomly determine the impact of an integrated protective structure, without knowing the scheme, or materials, or the location of the structure ...
  34. Jubilee
    Jubilee 21 November 2016 10: 44
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    This is good news! well done!
  35. doubovitski
    doubovitski 22 November 2016 01: 43
    +1
    Quote: Alien
    It is in the air.
    In the ground, it tends to behave strangely, including - amplify.
    Inhomogeneity, however. With the ensuing.

    Explain. What can strengthen the shock (seismic) wave in the ground? Have a device? Are there physical conditions? What about the ultimate condition - the law of conservation of momentum? The mass of explosives in the projectile multiplied by the speed of the shock wave against the mass of the moving soil, and even in its entirety, with its friction connections ... Here, the shock wave will die out after a dozen meters. To zero.
    1. Parsec
      Parsec 22 November 2016 02: 08
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      So, from the explosion, apparently, the FAB-1000, dropped with a fuse set to slow down, and falling into the area of ​​the location of light open slots-shelters, having only anti-fragmentation of 20-30 mm boards and a layer of earth 0.3-0.4 thick m, dug in sandy soil, a funnel 5,5 m deep and 22 m in diameter formed; the following damage was done:
      a) the slots remote from the center of the explosion at 16 m were completely destroyed, part of the personnel who were in them were killed and some were seriously injured;
      b) open slots, remote from the center of the explosion by 25 m, had cracks in steepnesses up to 5 cm wide; a collapse of steepness or any other kind of destruction by a bomb explosion was not caused;
      c) slots removed 31 m from the center of the explosion did not show any signs of damage.
      Cited from "The effectiveness of aviation in terms of manpower and technical means of combat."

      Ton bomb with a slowdown, an open slot at 25 m - cracks in coolness, a gap at 31 m - nothing at all.
    2. The stranger
      The stranger 26 November 2016 18: 29
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      From interference and reflection.