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Bears in action

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On the eve of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, it spread information about the first combat use of X-101 air-launched cruise missiles from Tu-95MS strategic missile carriers against terrorist targets in Syria. Previously, such missiles were used only by long-range Tu-160 bombers.
The main defense department on the YouTube channel published footage of strikes against terrorist targets in Syria by Tu-95MS aircraft:




The attacks over Syrian territory were covered by Su-30 fighters.

From the material of the Ministry of Defense:
Air-launched cruise missiles were launched from the area over the Mediterranean Sea. The planes took off from one of the airfields on the territory of the Russian Federation and, having made two refueling in the air, overcame more than 11 thousand km.

The missile carrier's route passed over the waters of the northern seas and the East Atlantic.

After delivering a missile strike, the aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces returned to the home airfield.

Su-33 naval fighters of the heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser "Admiral Kuznetsov" and the strike aviation from the Khmeimim airfield. Fighter-aviation cover was carried out by Su-30 aircraft.

The objects of defeat were terrorist control points, warehouses with weapons and ammunition, an accumulation of military equipment and a workshop for the production of weapons.

The coordinates of all targets were verified and confirmed through several intelligence channels.

The results of the strikes were also monitored by unmanned aerial vehicles.


In the Western press, predicted materials appeared about the hit of Russian missiles "exclusively at schools and hospitals" against the background of statements that there were "no terrorists at all" in the places where the RF Aerospace Forces were striking ...
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Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation
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  1. Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog 18 November 2016 06: 04
    +11
    Iron and iron the barmaley again! Only by burning them with a hot iron will we be able to whitewash them! For each shot they shoot, you need to drop one bomb on their heads! Send bombers for every attack and send barmaley to HELL! Good luck to our Aerospace Forces and the Navy in cleaning up Syria.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 18 November 2016 06: 09
      +4
      Our guys are going through good practice in bombing.
      1. Mahmut
        Mahmut 18 November 2016 10: 18
        +5
        against the background of statements that there are "no terrorists at all" in the places where the RF Aerospace Forces were striking ...

        They are really not there, from the word "ALREADY"
    2. 210ox
      210ox 18 November 2016 06: 15
      +1
      Alexander (you have an ochepyatka) We will not whitewash, but drive into the coffin is for sure!
      1. Alex_Rarog
        Alex_Rarog 18 November 2016 06: 42
        0
        Thank you) I'm writing from my mobile)) T9 got it)))
    3. Finches
      Finches 18 November 2016 06: 23
      +6
      High-class flyers, especially sea-based ones (here I am talking about an air wing on Kuz), have always been a piece commodity, and after Taburetkin's "breathtaking" reforms, they generally became worth their weight in gold - therefore it is very good that there is such a training ground as Syria, although you cannot say that about a country torn apart by war, where you can not just fly, but carry out your tasks in a real combat situation - this is an invaluable experience!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 November 2016 06: 42
        +10
        Today, the famous fantasy publicist, Mr. Kirby, will announce a new chapter "Terrible Russians bombed 4 hospitals, 5 kindergartens, 6 hotels, 7 humanitarian convoys and more on the list ....
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 18 November 2016 07: 27
          +14
          Kirby's expression is always wicked, who hasn't noticed?
          1. novel66
            novel66 18 November 2016 07: 40
            +6
            and cats, dogs and chickens also suffered. Russian cruelty goes off scale
            1. Giant thought
              Giant thought 18 November 2016 08: 35
              +4
              Russia has shown in the case the modernized Tu-95MSM with the launch of X-101 missiles, which had not been launched from these aircraft earlier, i.e. made it clear to the mattresses that the "Bears", if necessary, can launch missiles with a nuclear warhead on their territory without leaving our airspace. Let them scratch their turnips now, Trump wanted to talk to Russia from a position of strength, well, let him try.
          2. 72jora72
            72jora72 18 November 2016 08: 04
            +11
            Kirby's expression is always wicked, who hasn't noticed?
            And what kind of face a fuck should have?
            1. earloop
              earloop 18 November 2016 17: 30
              0
              An ecstatic eccentric.
        2. Velizariy
          Velizariy 18 November 2016 08: 31
          +7
          He is very similar to Alpha.
        3. alexej123
          alexej123 18 November 2016 09: 31
          +9
          Like a rear admiral, the nerves should be up to par. And the Armenian girl breeds like a sucker, even in front of everyone. Comparing Konashenko with ours, you really understand that the most acute problem in the United States is personnel shortage. There are practically no adequate specialists. Neurasthenics and stand-ups (Psaki) alone.
        4. Sasha_Sar
          Sasha_Sar 18 November 2016 12: 28
          +3
          And they "exclusively" bomb weddings, funerals and excavators ...
        5. Lynch
          Lynch 18 November 2016 15: 13
          +2
          Alexander Romanov

          Today the famous publicist in the fantasy style, Mr. Kirby, will announce a new chapter "Terrible Russians bombed 4 hospitals, 5 kindergartens, 6 hotels, 7 humanitarian convoys and more on the list ...

          Forgot about 3 children's camps for black gay children. Not tolerant and totalitarian Russia, as always, will soon fire itself at itself, following the example of Donbass. )
        6. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 19 November 2016 00: 46
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          4 hospitals, 5 kindergartens, 6 hotels,

          Three tape recorders, three foreign movie cameras, three domestic cigarette cases, a suede jacket ... three jackets ...
    4. hydrox
      hydrox 18 November 2016 08: 26
      +1
      For each shot they shoot, you need to throw one bomb on their head.

      A very stupid proposal that becomes 100 times more stupid when using the X-101 is extremely expensive and therefore unacceptable - one flight of such a Bear with refueling and with the launch of such a long-range missile is more than tens of millions of rubles and the burning of the engine resource.
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 18 November 2016 10: 55
        +5
        Quote: hydrox
        ... one flight of such a Bear with refueling and the launch of such a long-range missile is ...

        - ... good workout, no? wink
      2. Krabik
        Krabik 19 November 2016 00: 52
        +2
        But the pilots are busy with work, the plant receives orders, people work, receive salaries and everyone is happy, even the barmaley in paradise with the houris;)

        Well, isn't it heaven on earth ?!
  2. 210ox
    210ox 18 November 2016 06: 10
    +4
    Isn't it easier to arrange carpet bombing on these objects ... Or ammunition of a volumetric explosion. The thing is very effective. And you should not be ashamed of your complexes, or aircraft or bombs, they are designed for this
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 18 November 2016 07: 28
      +2
      You need to learn to apply CR, fly bombers and experience CR. And of course it is advisable to use bombs from the Su-24/34 and Tu-22 ...
      1. Iline
        Iline 18 November 2016 08: 24
        +4
        And I thought that these guys are fussing at our airfield, it seems that they do not look like planned flights at all.
        Quote: Zaurbek
        Learning needs to apply CR

        So this is the first combat use of the X-101 from this type of aircraft. Until now, the Kh-555 has been used. If you look closely, you can see it on external suspensions (they are not included in the bomb bay of this aircraft). Another question is why so little was hung up, but this is no longer our concern.
        I was very impressed by the footage of the defeat of the first target. Power, however.
        1. ancient
          ancient 18 November 2016 10: 01
          +2
          Quote: Iline

          So this is the first combat use of the X-101 from this type of aircraft. ). Another question is why so little was hung up, but this is no longer our concern ..


          With the first sentence you answered your question wink
          Well, then ... the external suspension .. "eats a lot" lol
          Well, at what distance they flew ... but we read soldier
          1. Iline
            Iline 18 November 2016 10: 08
            +3
            Quote: ancient
            Well, then ... the external suspension .. "eats a lot"

            She eats, of course, a lot. Only now it all depends on the number of refueling. Tu-95MS were in the air for 40 hours. Not a global problem.
            1. ancient
              ancient 18 November 2016 10: 15
              +2
              Quote: Iline
              Quote: ancient
              Well, then ... the external suspension .. "eats a lot"

              She eats, of course, a lot. Only now it all depends on the number of refueling. Tu-95MS were in the air for 40 hours. Not a global problem.


              I absolutely agree ... not even discussed, drinks, but .... who and where will give it to us .. so freely refuel as much as we want? wink
              That's right ... only in your area from coast to pole ... there and refuel as much as you want and where you want, but here ... it is a demonstration of combat capabilities and a show that we can fly for days where necessary and ... from there " letting go "...." where do you need to " soldier
              Yours faithfully, drinks
        2. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 20 November 2016 09: 06
          0
          Due to its length, the X-101 does not fit into the bomb bay, so an external suspension has appeared ... Size matters!
      2. ancient
        ancient 18 November 2016 10: 16
        +4
        Quote: Zaurbek
        Tu-22 ...


        But this is absolutely superfluous, or ... only for "barmaley".
        The lot of Tu-22s is also ONLY AKR soldier
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 18 November 2016 06: 10
    +7
    In the Western press, predicted materials about Russian missiles hit "exclusively at schools and hospitals" appeared against the background of statements that there were "no terrorists at all" in the places where the RF Aerospace Forces were striking ..


    What can you take from the sick mind.
    Our flyers are going through the school of real combat experience ... I think the Ministry of Defense has such plans for all the flyers of the Aerospace Forces ... a good thing ... it will have a beneficial effect on the general state of our armed forces in the country.
  4. vitaz
    vitaz 18 November 2016 06: 13
    +3
    there are "no terrorists at all" in the places where the RF Aerospace Forces were striking ...

    All the ruling liberal circles in the West will soon pay for such an attitude towards their people, because the people cannot be fooled, they see and hear everything (at least the majority)
    1. Andrey NM
      Andrey NM 18 November 2016 07: 07
      +4
      In the Western press, predicted materials appeared about the hit of Russian missiles "exclusively at schools and hospitals" against the background of statements that there were "no terrorists at all" in the places where the RF Aerospace Forces were striking ...

      That's right, there are no terrorists there, because for them they are not terrorists, but allies, bearers of democratic ideas, democratic opposition ... Anyone, but not terrorists. They cut their heads off out of humane motives ...
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 18 November 2016 07: 50
      +2
      The United States has ISIS as terrorists. That's exactly ISIS there and definitely not. Therefore, they speak with an honest look ... As the satirist used to say: "Here to play, but not to play here, there was a fish!"
  5. dik-nsk
    dik-nsk 18 November 2016 06: 13
    +3
    if Syria (the conflict) did not exist, it would be worth inventing, a great opportunity to "practice" in combat conditions, to identify and eliminate shortcomings. no exercise can replace real combat experience. and how many more "advertising" of our weapons will bring to the cashier's office.
    1. Petr1
      Petr1 18 November 2016 07: 04
      +5
      [quote = dik-nsk] if Syria (the conflict) did not exist, it would be worth inventing !!!
      Oh, yes, you are my friend, a guru just by idiotic comments, you need to come up with a conflict, like NATO in Syria or in Libya, Yugoslavia.
  6. umka571
    umka571 18 November 2016 06: 19
    +4
    Let it be better to let the barmaley go than to waste on the landfill
  7. Taygerus
    Taygerus 18 November 2016 06: 25
    +3
    Well done boys! Continue to drive these nits into the sand, the more the better, the launch and defeat of the target are credited hi
    1. alex-cn
      alex-cn 18 November 2016 06: 40
      +1
      To drive it into the sand is good and correct, but, to be honest, I expected a greater destructive effect from the missiles hitting bears .... Maybe this is because they are intended for a different warhead?
  8. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 18 November 2016 06: 43
    +1
    It is interesting, taking off from the territory of Russia, how many missiles are carrying 95e? For sure the load is not higher than 50 percent of the maximum, because a lot of fuel is needed to Syria. Why not launch the missiles by sea?
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 18 November 2016 07: 29
      +2
      Tu-160 is full, with two drums ...
      1. novel66
        novel66 18 November 2016 07: 54
        +3
        if you noticed, he even refueled
    2. askort154
      askort154 18 November 2016 08: 13
      +5
      Expelling liberoids ........ probably the load is not more than 50 percent of the maximum, because Syria needs a lot of fuel. Why not start the missiles by sea?

      They went with two refuelings. And not by a short route, through Iran, Iraq (like Tu 22), but by a long one, bypassing Europe. (pilots call it "round the corner" flight). Why so?
      - crew training, including refueling,
      - demonstration to the West, the capabilities of our "strategists".
      - checking the reaction of their air defense,
      - psychological impact on the countries of the NATO bloc.
      - smash enemy bases.
      - the crew has a reason to drink beer, after the "flight around the corner"!
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 18 November 2016 07: 33
    +2
    If the X-101 is spent on the Aerospace Forces exercise, then okay and understandable. And so, too expensive, missiles for barmaley.
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 18 November 2016 07: 54
      +5
      So they have a route with two refueling, across the Mediterranean Sea. Route approximately: Engels-Murmansk-Fly over England and Spain ... and back. They train long-haul flights with the launch of a CD ... who needs to understand why and then get nervous at a press conference ...
  10. novel66
    novel66 18 November 2016 07: 42
    +5
    I look at the video and I regret only one thing - I didn’t hang these missiles. quote "I should have been in this place" !!!!
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 18 November 2016 07: 51
      +3
      quote: "get drunk, you will!"
      1. novel66
        novel66 18 November 2016 07: 56
        +5
        get drunk after the ships return, "victory day"
        1. BLOND
          BLOND 18 November 2016 08: 16
          0
          Quote: novel xnumx
          get drunk after the ships return, "victory day"

          And who took the "bells" from you?
          1. novel66
            novel66 18 November 2016 09: 44
            +4
            second navigator - his diocese (x-22)
    2. BLOND
      BLOND 18 November 2016 08: 16
      +1
      Quote: novel xnumx
      I look at the video and I regret only one thing - I didn’t hang these missiles. quote "I should have been in this place" !!!!

      !!!
      In my youth, I "stood on the locks" with a remote control for suspension (Tu-160) (I don’t know how on a "bear"
      1. novel66
        novel66 18 November 2016 09: 42
        +5
        an electrician was usually standing with the winch control panel, my place was on a plane, to control the entrance of the guide rods and the actuation of the latches (I repeat it on the x-22, now I don't know, on occasion I'm ready to learn)
        1. ancient
          ancient 18 November 2016 10: 11
          +2
          Quote: novel xnumx
          an electrician was usually standing with the winch control panel, my place was on a plane, to control the entrance of the guide rods and the actuation of the latches (I repeat it on the x-22, now I don't know, on occasion I'm ready to learn)

          I am reading you and ... to say the least I am surprised wassat
          It is clear that maybe they have forgotten everything, or maybe they just ... saw from afar or "read somewhere on the Internet?" wassat

          Since when on TSUL .. "there was usually an electrician" ??? belay

          When the product is suspended, "adjacent maintenance groups" are involved solely for the purpose of pushing the trolley (.... "with a certain steam") and EVERYTHING .. even in this case, the head of the suspension crew or some more EXPERIENCED SENIOR is on the "carrier" WEAPON GROUP technician !!!
          And when suspended already on a BEAM on a TSULA, exclusively the CHIEF OF THE CALCULATION or the GACHALNIK of the GROUP himself ... sometimes the regimental engineers "train", but also ONLY WEAPONS, and not SL, AO, NK, REO, RSTiO.
          This is so ... just in case ... do not drive yourself into ... "an uncomfortable position" wassat
          And what .. "bells"? ...... Protect
          spruce checks and a PIN from the First Navigator, but the BLINDERS (of which later drinks ) at the OPERATOR. soldier
          1. novel66
            novel66 18 November 2016 10: 16
            +4
            a lot of text. I, as a gunman who hanged more than a dozen missiles for service and removed one less, write only what I did myself. By the way, I was the chief of the suspension crew, and the electrician of those equipment stood on the control panel of the winches, and the rest of those crew pressed ..opu on command. maybe you don’t know something (open spaces of the Internet?)
            1. novel66
              novel66 18 November 2016 10: 17
              +2
              and shyr and plugs to the second navigator!
              1. ancient
                ancient 18 November 2016 10: 55
                +2
                Quote: novel xnumx
                and shyr and plugs to the second navigator!

                Well, it’s not important ... it’s important that it’s no longer ... "bells" (that is, you haven’t heard about checks at all)
                A SAFETY TRANSPORTATION PIN ... ONLY FOR THE STUDENT OF THE SHIP ... because. he must make sure for himself and be sure that the rocket .. "will come off the beam"
                (History knows, unfortunately, examples) and by the way we have it in the 185th Guards, and ... where is that? soldier
            2. ancient
              ancient 18 November 2016 10: 51
              +2
              Quote: novel xnumx
              a lot of text. I, as a gunman who hanged more than a dozen missiles for service and removed one less, write only what I did myself. By the way, I was the chief of the suspension crew, and the electrician of those equipment stood on the control panel of the winches, and the rest of those crew pressed ..opu on command. maybe you don’t know something (open spaces of the Internet?)


              A lot of text specifically so that you STOP and not write any crap !!! soldier
              But you still did not understand anything (although from my text you could understand that ... I did not read it on the Internet).
              So on the list:

              1. Here I for my long life (flight, of course) "fired" rockets from the belly 3 times from the wing once. All other launches were UTrP soldier
              2. You have hung more than a dozen missiles and removed one less belay belayIn which regiment were you attracted exclusively to the suspension of launchers? And more .. "more than a dozen"? wassat
              Are you ONE for the whole regiment ... were you so ... "irreplaceable"?
              3. Just in case, I remind you that with the launch rocket, two more fly-overs (pre-launch and control) are performed with the launch rocket before the practical launch, after which the rocket is REMOVED from the beam wassat wassat (they knew ... or they don't write about it on the internet).
              4. What is a technical crew? ..... The crew includes only Startech and 3-4 MECHANICS ... EVERYTHING!
              All other specialists of their MAINTENANCE GROUPS for SPECIALTIES!
              What is this "CHEL" - "electrician of the technical crew"
              5. On ... they press the grip only if there was Kosoruky on the driver and could not drive the cart correctly, but usually two people, well, three .. held to the bottom for the stabilizers, so that the lock would correctly fit into the latches.

              So, dear ..... here you are ... "not on that ... attacked, or rather ... hit" wassat wassat wassat
              1. novel66
                novel66 18 November 2016 12: 00
                +4
                let's figure out who got on whom
                1, a flight crew was assigned to each aircraft (commander, pravak, navigator, second navigator, flight technician, reboot and two gunners) and a technical crew (technician, diesel engineer, electrician (count up !! gunman)
                2 usually, when flying on the route, they hung a training rocket (the point was indicated, we liked the central beam more), "I suspended the combat one 2 times removed 1 time (I did not go the first time)
                the head of the calculation for the suspension was the armament of the crew (I) further see above
                since it is the second navigator who drops the rocket
                in principle, the flight crew could also hang the rocket, the commander was at the beginning of the calculation, but in fact, when it was necessary to transport the rocket, one of those and the gunman flew, I had a raid on the Tu-95 for 14 hours, although I was not a pilot
                so it was 1989 - 1991, the garrison is seryshevo, I don’t know if it’s possible to call the high frequency number - what a secret
                1. novel66
                  novel66 18 November 2016 12: 06
                  +3
                  even arithmetic, let's say hung 40 missiles (training and launcher) and removed 39, those are one less (well, she flew away !! request )
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 18 November 2016 12: 12
                    +3
                    and I always had to press on the support, since the training rocket had a slightly different centering, I also stood on the carrier and it was in my interests to put the rocket exactly, by the way, I had to assemble the suspension system on the wing beam, which not everyone in the flight crew knew about
                    1. ancient
                      ancient 18 November 2016 15: 35
                      0
                      Quote: novel xnumx
                      and I always had to press on the support, since the training rocket had a slightly different centering, I also stood on the carrier and it was in my interests to put the rocket exactly, by the way, I had to assemble the suspension system on the wing beam, which not everyone in the flight crew knew about


                      Here I agree, because. in the "training" there is no warhead, no fuel with an oxidizer
                      Well, how could the flight crew not see the "crap" through which the suspension cables go? request
                2. ancient
                  ancient 18 November 2016 15: 32
                  +1
                  Quote: novel xnumx
                  let's figure out who got on whom


                  let's try wink drinks (I will immediately answer your points soldier )

                  1.So you, or rather WE are talking about the X-22 missile and the Tu-22 aircraft, and as I understand it, you are talking about some of the Tu-95 options ... most likely about the K-22, but both regiments 182 and 79 were armed with an X-20 missile and did not have K-22 aircraftsoldier
                  According to the Tu-16 (if determined by the composition of the crew), the only aircraft from the series, or rather modifications of the Tu-16go, was the Tu-16P, where the crew included a member of the EW operator.
                  Then if so, then I will not be able to answer your claims, because. to the Tu-95, no ... no sideways soldier
                  Well ... I read to the end and realized that you are from Ukrainka, most likely the 182nd Guards, because. it was there that the Tu-95Ks were first, but then the question is ... after all, in 1988, your regiment had already switched to MC's ... then where does the X-22?
                  Or do you mean X-55
                  Or are you still with 79 TBPs, but there were first Tu-95Ks (these are "Kama"), but there is an X-20 rocket ?! soldier
                  Although in the future, the Tu-95K-22 all came with the "Kama" equipment.
                  But this is better from the dear Iline ask. He's in this thread "SPECIAL"! soldier
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 18 November 2016 16: 41
                    +3
                    40 tbap tu-95 k22, our flyers did not bother with those details. on ms = s rearmed after my demobilization, the year so in 93-94. Yes, we have a "Kama", the neighboring regiment of our division was on the x-20
                    1. novel66
                      novel66 18 November 2016 16: 47
                      +3
                      and if our regiment's armament engineer came to suspend the rocket, there would be legends about this (sort of like about me, when I fired from the cannons)
                      1. novel66
                        novel66 18 November 2016 17: 00
                        +2
                        I led the market right after the Tu-95, maybe the article is about him fellow
  11. Altona
    Altona 18 November 2016 07: 58
    0
    These "schools" and "hospitals" were created exclusively for the barmatos. By the way, I believe that Kirby is a starfish, you don't need to prove anything, let him take an interest in his department.
  12. Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 18 November 2016 08: 18
    +1
    Pleased with a hint of "partners" for 11 thousand km. laughing
  13. jovanni
    jovanni 18 November 2016 08: 34
    +1
    Quote: aszzz888
    If the X-101 is spent on the Aerospace Forces exercise, then okay and understandable. And so, too expensive, missiles for barmaley.


    Yes, if it were not for the need for training, it would be generally unjustified to shoot such expensive rackets at sheds. Besides, the efficiency is so-so. Most of the houses remain unscathed. Or maybe the barmaley were sitting at the other end of the barn. It would be necessary to work more extensively ...
  14. K-50
    K-50 18 November 2016 08: 44
    +1
    In the Western press, predicted materials appeared about the hit of Russian missiles "exclusively at schools and hospitals" against the background of statements that there were "no terrorists at all" in the places where the RF Aerospace Forces were striking ...

    When they themselves cannot do anything, then it is important for them to declare not the solvency of others.
    Political and moral impotent !!! fool
  15. Aroma77
    Aroma77 18 November 2016 10: 15
    +2
    Soon all the sheds in Syria will end with this "makar".)
  16. Semenov
    Semenov 18 November 2016 10: 40
    +1
    The rocket seemed to have entered through the main entrance. Educated, polite, and in fact could and through a window or a window.
  17. Thrombus
    Thrombus 18 November 2016 11: 04
    +1
    I think it’s time to use the pope of all bombs (AVBPM) in Syria, both the conventional and most effective in the mountain Idlib and the most effective weapon in the militant camps.
  18. Sasha_Sar
    Sasha_Sar 18 November 2016 12: 30
    +1
    Yesterday morning we took off from the base, there was such a hum that I thought the end of the world had come.
  19. Thompson
    Thompson 18 November 2016 12: 32
    +1
    We will not appreciate the effect of this practice! Good luck to all our military !!!
  20. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 18 November 2016 15: 59
    +1
    after so many missile launches and strikes from the airbase in Syria, in my opinion, not a single school remained and the hospitals were all destroyed. But why, then, does not Syria drive us in the closure of ours? probably schools and hospitals they do not mind, Isn't it time to stop lying !!!!!!! stop
    But you gentlemen from the coalition have not destroyed a single excavator for a long time? negative