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Army ATV AM-1

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The AM-1 army all-terrain vehicle is intended for conducting patrol and reconnaissance operations, raid and search and rescue operations conducted in different climatic conditions. Currently, the all-terrain vehicle is in service with the Russian army. It is already used in the airborne troops and arctic brigades created in the country, also the AM-1 ATVs are being used by the army special forces. For example, in February, 10 of AM-1 ATVs received special units of the Western Military District (ZVO) in 2016 in February.


The first batch of seven AM-1 entered service with the Arctic motorized rifle brigade of the North fleet (SF), the press service of the fleet reported this in August 2015. Transportation of all-terrain vehicles was carried out in a disassembled form, already on the spot they were assembled and run-in with the direct participation of specialists of the automotive service unit. Contract military personnel were entrusted to manage army ATVs, possessing a driver’s license of the corresponding category and significant experience in operating motorcycles. These ATVs can be used in the Arctic regions. In 2014, all-terrain vehicles were tested twice in the polar latitudes. The tests were carried out on the Rybachy Peninsula and on the island of Kotelny.

The army all-terrain vehicle, designated AM-1, was developed on the basis of the civilian model PM500-2, equipped with a four-stroke single-cylinder gasoline liquid cooling engine, which develops the maximum power of the HP 38. Motor-all-terrain vehicles are manufactured by the Russian Mechanics company from the city of Rybinsk. The recommended retail price of the civilian version of the PM500-2 ATV is 349 thousand rubles today.


The RM-500 is the first all-terrain vehicle designed and manufactured in Russia. With its design, the designers of the enterprise endowed their model with the best qualities of tourist and utilitarian ATVs. At the same time, the RM-500 is a truly Russian all-terrain vehicle: it is tough, simple, reliable and unpretentious. The RM-500-2 is a further development of the first model, which borrowed all the best from it, while becoming more maneuverable, easier to drive and more comfortable. The presence of high and low gears, four-wheel drive (4х4) with the ability to lock the differential allow all-terrain vehicle drivers not to be afraid of off-road.

The army equipment of the all-terrain vehicle received a special rack for mounting the AK-74, grenade launcher, SVD rifle; front case; headlight protection; dashboard with advanced features; engine preheater system; passenger hand warmers; headlamp searchlight and tires with a special tread, increasing throughput. The gas tank of the AM-1 army motor-all-terrain vehicle received a self-retractable coating, which eliminates fuel leakage if its integrity is damaged during operation, including in combat conditions. Behind the passenger seat was equipped with a special place where there are two metal fuel cans of 20 liters each. A spotlight, which complements the usual set of light devices, allows AM-1 to operate in the dark. The electric winch with a force of up to 2,5 tons is also included in the basic package.

Not so long ago, ATVs were considered to be exclusively entertainment equipment, which was bought by wealthy motorcycle enthusiasts and fans of extreme walks over rough terrain. Today, these four-wheeled vehicles confidently stand in operation, while the feedback on their operation in the Russian armed forces is only positive. According to the paratroopers who used the equipment, ATVs show themselves with dignity. There are no failures, including after the practical landing from the aircraft in special containers.


The AM-1 military ATVs, although akin to them, are still distantly related to civilian versions. And it is not only about the possibility of installing on them various weapons systems, devices for the transport of ammunition and trailers. The military models have improved all-terrain characteristics themselves. For example, their frame is protected with a special powder coating, and without exception, the electrical contacts are made of waterproof. A special drive and tread pattern helps to overcome different landscapes, including coastal sands and boulders.

In general, we can say that sand, stones, swamps, mountains, forests, the sea - this is the element of this mototechnique, an ideal testing ground for checking its off-road qualities and patency. It is not by chance that military army all-terrain vehicles were tested by the military on the Kola Peninsula. Here, the army ATVs were subjected to comprehensive checks by complex terrain, sea water, they were literally drowned in coastal waves. At the same time they got wet, but every time they started up and could go on again. Not a single drift was shown by the mototechnics and on a fairly complex muddy bottom, just as calmly, without special difficulties, all-terrain vehicles overcame piles of stones.

The first in Russian stories the army quad bike, as noted above, was designed and produced in Rybinsk (Yaroslavl region) at the Russian Mechanics enterprise. In order for you to better imagine what kind of enterprise this is, it can be noted that it is here that the “homeland” of the Buran snowmobiles famous throughout the Soviet Union, which are still used in many parts of Russia, is located.


According to Viktor Ilyukhin, the chief engineer of the Russian Mechanics enterprise, the AM-1 army all-terrain vehicle has significant differences from commercially produced civilian ATVs. Among them, and a special color, and the presence of a specially designed trunk, designed for installation weapons, and the use of a fuel tank, protected from penetration. The unique design of the tank has a self-retractable coating, which, when it breaks through, tightens the hole from the bullet for 10-15 seconds, after which the quad will continue to move, retaining the necessary fuel.

In addition, the important difference between the army version of the all-terrain vehicle technology manufactured at the Rybinsk plant, from the civilian version is in the reinforcement of the supporting structure of the frame. This allows you to increase the total capacity of the all-terrain vehicle. The levers providing permeability were also strengthened, and the units and components of its design imply driving on any type of soil. The load capacity of the army motor-all-terrain vehicle was designed for at least 150 kg. In addition, the additional features of the AM-1 provide an electric winch.

The unique abilities of all-terrain vehicles are indispensable for overcoming heights. Including mountain ranges with slopes that are close to vertical. In this case, the ascent into the mountains is carried out with the help of special mountaineering equipment. It helps AM-1 and its winch, the motor of which, by the way, can be started not only manually, but also remotely - with the help of a special remote control (working remotely). Motor-all-terrain vehicles are also irreplaceable when transporting various goods with the help of an external device. In particular, the press service of the Ministry of Defense spread the information that AM-1 is able to pull a trailer weighing up to 500 kg.

To date, the specifications for the new army ATV technology are determined by the military tracked vehicles and special snow and swath technology equipment of the 3 th vehicle research center of the Russian Defense Ministry. Today they are considering the possibility of introducing into the Russian army not only quad bikes, but also all-terrain vehicles of the Buggy type. This would allow the military to solve the problem of locating the machine gun on the machine (there are certain inconveniences at the all-terrain vehicles, which are associated with the longitudinal placement of a two-person crew). According to Denis Vinnikov, head of the 3 Central Research Institute, samples of military buggies already exist in foreign armies, the possibility of their use in the Russian armed forces is also being considered.


In recent years, ATVs are increasingly being used by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to solve the tasks of combat training, and designers are creating various machines based on them. For example, at the Army-2015 forum, at the Uralvagnozavod stand, MMK was demonstrated - a mobile mortar complex consisting of a three-axle PM-500 (6Х4) motorized tractor, which is also being produced today in Rybinsk, and an 82-mm 2BXNXMMM mortar The novelty was developed by the designers of the Petrel Research Institute, which is part of the UVZ corporation. In addition to the mortar itself, the quad bike in this configuration also carries 24 shots to it and the calculation of two people.

The main purpose of MMK is to defeat the firepower and manpower of the enemy, as well as unarmored equipment, which is located in open positions or in naked field-type shelters. Placing an 82-mm mortar 2B24 on an all-terrain vehicle can significantly increase the mobility of the entire complex, reduce the deployment time at the firing position, and increase the ammunition of the complex as a whole by 10. Rapid change of firing positions in modern combat, where mobility decides everything, is very important. The ATV allows the calculation to promptly change combat positions, preparing a mortar and equipment for a position change takes no more than 30 seconds.

Until the end of May 2016, the Russian Airborne Forces were to receive about 160 ATVs and snowmobiles. The equipment was supposed to come into service with the Kamyshin and Novorossiysk airborne formations. The paratroopers were supplied by army ATVs and snowmobiles of the AM-1 and A-1 types, the press service of the Russian Ministry of Defense reported. From the beginning of the summer period of training, which in the troops begins on June 1, all brigades and divisions of the Airborne Forces had to actively use all-terrain vehicles as part of practical exercises in solving educational problems.

All photos below: IA "WEAPONS OF RUSSIA", Alexey Kitaev



















Tactical and technical characteristics of AM-1:
Overall dimensions: length - 2565 mm, width - 1245 mm, height - 1645 mm.
Wheelbase - 1490 mm.
Weight (net) - 420 kg.
The power plant is a gasoline 4-stroke, single-cylinder, 4-valve liquid-cooled engine.
Engine capacity - 493 cm.
Maximum power - 28 kW (38 hp).
Maximum speed - up to 80 km / h.
Starting system - electric, manual starter.
Transmission - CVT. Transmission: front high and low range, neutral, back.
Tires: front - 26 x 8 - 14 4PR, rear - 26 x 10 - 14 4PR.
Brakes: front - disc hydraulic, rear - disc, transmission, hydraulic.
Fuel tank capacity - 20 l.
Battery - 12В / 20А * h.
Capacity (number of seats) - 2.

Information sources:
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201511010808-ppe1.htm
http://structure.mil.ru
https://www.abw.by/news/183292
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  1. NEXUS
    NEXUS 17 November 2016 15: 22
    +7
    The Arctic is being strengthened, and as far as I understand, next year another icebreaker will be launched. Everyone does the right thing ... our hydrocarbons are also on our territory. And for those who dreamed of squeezing this piece, the long road shines with forests and fields to Yellowupukki more and more.
    1. Homo
      Homo 17 November 2016 15: 46
      +13
      Then I look at all the photos of the Arctic! wink
      1. Bloodsucker
        Bloodsucker 17 November 2016 15: 59
        +6
        I don’t .. well, what’s the army, fine, the business is necessary, the question is different, why isn’t mass organization in the civil sector organized in parallel?
        If, for every 10 people released, three are in the army, seven are in civilian life, or a large proportion is taken, then the military-industrial complex is not in the loser and the same export will increase somewhere in the country ..
        And then everything is as usual with us, the military-industrial complex is doing it, but they are not letting it into the civilian again. And the price in the end is sky-high.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 17 November 2016 21: 11
          +2
          Quote: The Bloodthirster
          And then everything is as usual with us, the military-industrial complex is doing it, but they are not letting it into the civilian again. And the price in the end is sky-high.

          It's the other way around. Initially, they take a civilian, play a little prank, and transfer them to the troops. However, it seems that for some reason the price is very high. Despite the fact that the original version in its class is by no means a leader.
        2. wei
          wei 18 November 2016 03: 52
          +1
          in the country, the same export will increase somewhere ..

          it's called re-export
          engine derated Taiwan as I understand it
          Taiwan TGB engine: one cylinder and 503 “cubes” of working volume, 40,8 hp and 44 Nm of torque
          the price for me is so high but comparable to the price of China
        3. Nick
          Nick 23 November 2016 17: 36
          0
          Quote: The Bloodthirster
          And then everything is as usual with us, the military-industrial complex is doing it, but they are not letting it into the civilian again. And the price in the end is sky-high.

          The article explicitly states that a civilian version of the all-terrain vehicle with a recommended price of 349 thousand rubles is also being produced. Read the article carefully ...
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 17 November 2016 19: 56
        +2
        Quote: Homo
        Then I look at all the photos of the Arctic! wink

        Yes, even for the Arctic. The equipment is lame. Where is the peak, where are the checkers, eh does not finish the MO.
        1. Yuri from Volgograd
          Yuri from Volgograd 19 November 2016 00: 05
          +1
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Quote: Homo
          Then I look at all the photos of the Arctic! wink

          The equipment is lame. .

          Yes, something betrayed Stirlitz, walking around Berlin. Either a walkie-talkie on the back, or a budenovka, or a parachute that was dragging behind ...
  2. Sagittarius2
    Sagittarius2 17 November 2016 15: 47
    +13
    Not so long ago, ATVs were considered exclusively entertaining equipment, which was bought by wealthy fans of motor vehicles and lovers of extreme walks on rough terrain.

    such remained and, to boys on potholes to drive.
    This tetra is essentially a motorcycle, a motorcycle landing, a steering wheel, passenger accommodation and generally not all of this.

    Today, these four-wheeled vehicles are confidently getting into operation, the reviews on their operation in the Russian armed forces are still only positive.


    reviews cannot be not positive, because there is NO ANOTHER technique, there is nothing to compare with. Moreover, they are positive until the technique is new, when it breaks, then there will be no positive ones.

    These foreign entertaining ersatz motorcycles do not meet any requirements for military equipment.
    - inconvenient motorcycle landing
    -complete inconvenience for the shooter sitting behind
    - the inability to use stationary weapons only during stops.
    - there is no roof, which in the conditions of Russia is not unimportant, sitting in the rain or snow is rather disgusting when you can not sit in the rain or snow.
    Well, the cost of this cycle is not so small of course.
    In history, there is already a suitable example during the WW2, the Germans used the Tsundap and BMW motorcycles for mobility, but later, towards the end, Volkswagen began to produce Schlimvagen floating all-terrain vehicles, so this in all respects the best all-terrain vehicle in front of the motorcycle with a sidecar was also CHEAPER than a motorcycle.

    that’s something we must have in our army today.
    1. Radomir
      Radomir 17 November 2016 15: 59
      +2
      I think that such a technique will still occupy its niche, and let’s bring a light mortar. Yes, and go in the rain is better than just go and knead the swamp. Although the idea you have about Schlimwagen is quite reasonable and rational. But it seems to me at the headquarters and the Design Bureau has more than once been beaten up, they just buy ATVs and not the Schlimwagen analogue.
      1. Sagittarius2
        Sagittarius2 17 November 2016 16: 09
        +2
        Quote: Radomir
        But it seems to me at the headquarters and the Design Bureau has more than once been beaten up, they just buy ATVs and not the Schlimwagen analogue.


        So there is doubt about the reasonableness of our headquarters, maybe they took such a thing out of poverty, or maybe worse, some kind of Ulyukaev sold in uniform.
    2. Geronimo73
      Geronimo73 17 November 2016 16: 05
      0
      who who shlimvagen? :)))) this is called kubelvagen, buddy ...
      1. Sagittarius2
        Sagittarius2 17 November 2016 16: 07
        +4

        German camel "- Volkswagen Type 82 (Kübelwagen)
        1. RASKAT
          RASKAT 17 November 2016 16: 49
          +3
          we have our own UAZ 3151
          Miracle of the Soviet automobile industry !!!
    3. avt
      avt 17 November 2016 16: 58
      +2
      Quote: Sagittarius2
      , but then closer to the end Volkswagen began to produce floating all-terrain vehicles Schlimvagen, and so this is in all respects the best all-terrain vehicle in front of a motorcycle, and with a sidecar, it was also CHEAPER than a motorcycle.

      good Great and ... underrated platform! COMPLETELY meets the requirements for military equipment according to the criterion “cost - effectiveness.” Like it performs a task and does not cost anything.
      Quote: Radomir
      . Although the idea you have about Schlimwagen is quite reasonable and rational. But it seems to me at the headquarters and the Design Bureau has more than once been beaten up, they just buy ATVs and not the Schlimwagen analogue.

      request Alas - a tribute to fashion and ....... just took what is in serial production with minor modifications. There were even less than eight wheeled USs like floating platforms in the 70s. But it seems they were written off.
    4. kytx
      kytx 17 November 2016 20: 50
      0
      and in the snow it is of little use (to drive only on ice) and in the Arctic 9 months winter
      1. Nick
        Nick 23 November 2016 18: 07
        0
        Quote: kytx
        and in the snow it is of little use (to drive only on ice) and in the Arctic 9 months winter

        Have you already checked it for cross in the snow? Then the video to the studio ...
        1. kytx
          kytx 24 November 2016 01: 54
          +1
          yes checked, sits godlessly in the puff, does not go uphill at all.
          look for the video yourself
  3. RASKAT
    RASKAT 17 November 2016 15: 51
    +3
    Cavalry of the 21 century. Very impressive. Especially triaxial, for household needs in the field it is simply indispensable when you need to transport small loads, food, water to medium and short distances, to take out the easily wounded. well and so on
    An ATV is better than this.
    1. Sagittarius2
      Sagittarius2 17 November 2016 16: 29
      0

      it’s necessary to switch to such equipment.
      1. Yuri from Volgograd
        Yuri from Volgograd 19 November 2016 00: 11
        0
        Quote: Sagittarius2
        [thumb] [/ thumb]
        it’s necessary to switch to such equipment.

        This is impossible.
        Either the dirt will fall, or it will bend to a hair dryer. We have the old fashioned way.
        By the way, what does a clown do in the right photo?
        Why is he hanging a rocket on a "ladder"? He supports safety engineering like a saboteur!
  4. Radomir
    Radomir 17 November 2016 15: 54
    +2
    Tell me what kind of technique is there in the 3 photos in the background next to the BMD?
  5. Terminolol
    Terminolol 17 November 2016 16: 23
    +5
    Here I would like to ask about the quality of the assembly and the origin of the components. Judging by the reviews of the civilian version, it will be complete slag. Soldier and rem. service would be a pity. The idea is good of course, but if things are as with the simple PM500, then this is just a money laundering, our taxpayers. Now, if this technology was launched at a defense plant with domestic engines and adapted for civilian use, I would say thank you! And only time will tell, it's too early to rejoice.
  6. Angriff
    Angriff 17 November 2016 16: 55
    +5
    To overcome various landscapes, including coastal sands and boulders of four-wheeled vehicles, a special drive and tread pattern help.

    Um, what is a "special drive"? laughing
    This is in the sense of two soldiers pushing a quadra? Or four more wheels from under the belly, a la mess? recourse
  7. APASUS
    APASUS 17 November 2016 16: 56
    0
    It remains only to teach such machines to move after the owner, to deliver ammunition, to deliver the wounded to the hospital in automatic mode. This is not a field of activity
  8. Volkh12
    Volkh12 17 November 2016 17: 33
    0
    And it’s a pity, earlier in the 90s the four-wheeled Sunrise was with it and everything was lowering and a CVT, and it was even possible to plow even with 11 horses, and from an hour we clean the grandmother from scratch
  9. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 17 November 2016 18: 11
    +1
    Nothing to say. The right thing ...
  10. killganoff
    killganoff 17 November 2016 19: 42
    +5
    And the army will have domestic ATVs ??? How much can you feed China ?!
  11. tinibar
    tinibar 17 November 2016 19: 49
    0
    That would be to drive on this in nature! Yes, and shoot! ... smile
  12. Deck
    Deck 17 November 2016 20: 13
    0
    Only in the snow this thing does not go. Need replaceable tracks! But it’s convenient to shoot from the front trunk with a sniper rifle with bipod
  13. Zelden
    Zelden 17 November 2016 20: 44
    +6
    I have been using quadrics for over five years. First there were the Chinese, then the Americans, now Japan. Used in harsh trophy and competition conditions. "Russian Mechanics" lives exactly half a day in such conditions. How they will survive in the troops with twice the load request Most likely nothing. And in a couple of years they will abandon this venture. Although in competent hands such a technique will take place even where walking is very difficult.
    And in two photos not "RM" but "Stealth". This is generally an indecent word. laughing
  14. Alf
    Alf 17 November 2016 20: 48
    +4
    In the article, everything is wonderful and rosy.
    Except one BUT! The engine model is not indicated anywhere. Where is it released? Or is this the case with the quad bike on which Rogozin dissected? There were also songs of praise, but then they mentioned that the engine and transmission, i.e. the parts without which the ATV is just a set of spare parts, are purchased in China. If so, how do these self-propelled guns differ from the Mistral and Lynx?
    1. pimen
      pimen 17 November 2016 21: 34
      0
      the fact that the engine is single-cylinder, being a four-stroke - in any way, is not very
  15. Damir
    Damir 17 November 2016 21: 10
    +1
    Good evening Dear Colleagues !!! Tell me what kind of equipment in the background behind the quad and BMP ????
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 17 November 2016 21: 48
      +3
      BOV Serbian Military Police

      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOV
      1. Damir
        Damir 17 November 2016 21: 51
        +1
        Good evening!!!!! Thanks for the help, but what is he doing there interestingly .... moreover with heraldry from the Airborne Forces .. or is it accepted for service with us ?? but then the equipment has been changed, under the lower nasal armor plate there are no spare wheel ....
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 17 November 2016 21: 54
          +2
          Welcome.
          The question is not correct. Should sound "What our paratroopers have forgotten there" 8)))
          Teachings. "Slavic Brotherhood"
  16. Patsyk on Motsyk
    Patsyk on Motsyk 17 November 2016 21: 31
    +11
    When did it suddenly start to MANUFACTURE ATVs? As far as I know, RussianMechanika (there is only Russian in it) is an ASSEMBLY from what "Kitaez sent"; It's like Fast and Furious and Stealth (God forbid anyone to ride on these NEDOMOTES) in which Russian is only ... that the plate is written in Russian (Zhukovsky Motorcycle Plant, oh, how!). And if on business then a quadric is not a motorcycle and at the same time not a car! In general, in fact - neither there nor here; There is no roof, all open to all winds, rain and snow. The rut here is like in a car - TWO (i.e., the advantage in cross-country ability in relation to a full-fledged jeep is very controversial), even on a muddy and slippery road, a well-passable car will keep up with the quad, or it will simply move faster than it; and how they turn over on them !!! For the center of gravity is high and the track is narrow! (who did not ride them - after all, they do not even know about it) At the same time, being covered with a weight of half a ton will be little joy. Try at least once on a quadric to develop the maximum possible speed on a bumpy bumpy road (for the sake of experiment!) - it WASTE you so that you will barely have the strength to get off it in 15 minutes! And if you also look at the speedometer at the same time, then you will in general be saddened because on the same road you can fly faster in a good jeep, and even with comfort! A quadric is actually just an expensive toy: after all, the components and assemblies in it are almost like in an all-wheel drive car (levers, ball, drives ...), while spare parts for a quadr are more expensive than for a car! But by car, you can take it away for more ... That's right, here a comrade one painted a couple of months ago on a similar topic that have quadrics and buggies and mots in the troops (he had a flag of some European country, I don’t remember right now) - all this mischief! And yes - quadrics climb on the snow BAD (I tried it)! ... Only wide-track vehicles walk quickly and confidently in the snow (that is, for Arctic latitudes it is better to have snowmobiles in this case, for desert ones - buggies and jeeps, for middle latitudes - all-wheel drive jeeps, for reconnaissance - motorcycles can be used).
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 17 November 2016 21: 41
      +1
      And how many quadrics will fit in the Mi-8 cargo compartment and how many jeeps?

      Quadric is not ideal. Nevertheless, specialized machines, originally created as light transporters, are certainly better. But for some reason they don’t want to spend money on such. Therefore quadrics.
      1. Patsyk on Motsyk
        Patsyk on Motsyk 17 November 2016 21: 51
        +3
        To some extent, YES - quadrics are needed somewhere and may be irreplaceable in certain situations, but praying for them and saying that this is a "new miracle weapon" and even more so as described in this article will be wrong. Nothing new specifically in this quadra has been invented - as the author of the article tries to describe; everything has long been invented by the Japs and amers. Ksati what is presented here with a 6 * 6 wheel arrangement looks suspiciously like the American Polaris 6 * 6.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 17 November 2016 22: 03
          0
          And they didn’t come up with anything there. Differences with those assembled from Chinese components for the civilian market are minimal.
          Actually, this was the stake, at least for NATO. We take a civil quadric, and with minimal changes we purchase for the army. Due to the fact that for the civilian sector quadrics are produced in huge series, a niche machine for the army will come out very, very cheap.
          1. activator
            activator 17 November 2016 23: 42
            +2
            I completely agree with the patient on the motorcycle. Quadric is an extreme fun had the opportunity to ban from my experience the only weapon that can be successfully used on the go is a spear. As for helicopter transportation, well here it’s certainly fishless and cancer, although there’s how to take it. 10 people need at least 2 UAZs and 5 quadrics, and if you need to dismount for some task, and after they have to be picked up from somewhere else, then you need to leave 2 people with UAZs and 5 with quadras, and if you are wounded. maybe yes, but reliability on equipment of this kind from Chinese components will be lower than the baseboard. It just might not be enough at times. Our engines of this kind since Soviet times were reliable on a motorcycle Minsk and Izh Planet, but they do not work, and as far as I know, nothing new has appeared.
  17. Radikal
    Radikal 17 November 2016 22: 10
    0
    Quote: Homo
    Then I look at all the photos of the Arctic! wink

    Not all - the last photo looks like from Egypt, in the background is the American M113 armored personnel carrier.
  18. den-protector
    den-protector 17 November 2016 23: 00
    +4
    Why not reanimate LUAZ? Will ATVs be dragged by the legs from the battlefield?
    1. avt
      avt 18 November 2016 11: 26
      +4
      Quote: den-protector
      Why not reanimate LUAZ?

      LuAZ-967M? Well, it's easier to chop dough on Chinese ATVs.
      Quote: dokusib
      Wangyu: gradually all these quadrics and buggies will begin to grow in armor with more powerful engines and reinforced frames and will grow in size to hammers

      In fact, they are now just "undressing", justifying, once again, "specifics" laughing It's a platform of this class, well, I drove and forgot. Not for police patrols.
      1. dokusib
        dokusib 18 November 2016 16: 00
        +2
        Right! But in five or ten years? They hang 500-700 kilograms on them and say we need a heavier platform. Everyone wants a tank in the weight of a passenger car. And a gun so that there was an ATGM and immediately carry the squad. "Pentagon Wars" laughing
  19. dokusib
    dokusib 18 November 2016 05: 40
    +1
    At the beginning of World War II, the armies of the warring countries had two types of motorcycles, light and heavy. The heavy ones were equipped with a standard stroller. Towards the end of the war, it turned out that the tasks assigned to them were carried out with great success by the Willis, Gaziki, Kübelvageny and Brennkerriere (the Britons always go their own way). After the war, naturally I wanted more and better, and gradually light transporters developed into the Humvee, Tigers and armored versions of one and a half ton trucks. As a result, light transporters disappeared as a class. Now the second round of evolution has begun that the Americans began, who scored Polarisov and Brp for their special forces. But they already realized that the specially created platform is much more efficient. The same Polaris created a special unit that deals with these products. And we, as always, in the role of catching up, such as fishless fish and crayfish. Wangyu: gradually all these quadrics and buggies will begin to grow in armor with more powerful engines and reinforced frames and will grow in size to hammers
    1. Niccola Mack
      Niccola Mack 19 November 2016 09: 17
      +1
      At the beginning of World War II, the armies of the warring countries had two types of motorcycles, light and heavy.

      The Germans still had a caterpillar (heavy, half-tracked) motorcycle Sd.Kfz.2

      And they used it quite effectively
  20. Bambarbiya
    Bambarbiya 18 November 2016 08: 08
    +5
    Quote: APASUS
    Rubber is not such a critical structural element compared to the engine or gearbox. I think any tire factory can arrange the production of such rubber, it is only up to the order from the Moscow Region, m

    Rubber on a quad is basically a consumable and the issue of production is more than appropriate. Another point is tire production for cars and quads are different universes. There are exceptions such as Baya and Chinese Maxis. The tires are presented in the photo. So, for production wheels to the quad you need to build power from scratch, with unpredictable results.

    Quote: The Bloodthirster
    I don’t .. well, what’s the army, fine, the business is necessary, the question is different, why isn’t mass organization in the civil sector organized in parallel?

    Quote: tinibar
    That would be to drive on this in nature! Yes, and shoot! ...

    So who doesn’t give that ??! :)) CFmoto, Stels, Russian mechanics. All this is one and the same. In the case of RM it is even harder, the Chinese collected by clumsy local hands.
    Quote: pimen
    the fact that the engine is single-cylinder, being a four-stroke - in any way, is not very

    Now, somewhere, the Yamakhovites cried with their unkillable Grizzly bear (from which all this Chinese-Russian slag was copied), and the old man, 12-year-old Bombardier Trakster, will give odds to this whole marriage.
  21. Mark68
    Mark68 18 November 2016 12: 58
    +2
    It’s impossible to ride and shoot at the same time. Do you like the Ural motorcycle with a wheel-mounted machine gun on all-wheel drive?
  22. moscowp
    moscowp 18 November 2016 15: 36
    0
    Visually, it seems that the clearance is small, it will be difficult to ride through our shit
  23. My doctor
    My doctor 18 November 2016 21: 44
    +2
    As a vehicle that travels on a carriage on ordinary roads, and there isn’t enough gas tank volume to go through the mud on its own. In cases of which you cannot take the wounded. And in general I think that on the end of the square profile in the device for attaching the machine gun it is necessary to put a stub otherwise, bull-calves will stick there.
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  25. Operator
    Operator 19 November 2016 01: 06
    +3
    This is how the battery of 152 mm "mortars" now looks like

  26. dokusib
    dokusib 19 November 2016 04: 21
    +2
    from sportsman 800 to military raiser on to Dagor that's all Polaris
  27. Niccola Mack
    Niccola Mack 19 November 2016 09: 04
    0
    A good topic is extremely promising!
    What else is needed - "pribludy" for crossing and movement on water.
  28. pooop
    pooop 19 November 2016 20: 15
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    The technique itself is needed, but only as a supplement no more.
  29. Hannibal Lecter
    Hannibal Lecter 23 November 2016 19: 56
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    Quote: NEXUS
    The Arctic is being strengthened, and as far as I understand, next year another icebreaker will be launched. Everyone does the right thing ... our hydrocarbons are also on our territory. And for those who dreamed of squeezing this piece, the long road shines with forests and fields to Yellowupukki more and more.

    To Yolupukki. Although I do not know why he needs to go to Finland in the city of Rovaniemi.
  30. vnord
    vnord 16 February 2017 11: 43
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    Quote: The Bloodthirster
    Not ... well, what’s the army, fine, the thing is necessary, the question is different, why isn’t mass organization in the civil sector organized in parallel

    Go buy them for sale. In extreme cases, you can buy from the factory.
    1. EternalStranger
      EternalStranger 16 February 2017 15: 28
      0
      it’s easier to buy directly from the Chinese than this repainted guano with a sign in Russian.
  31. Alexander X
    Alexander X 7 January 2019 02: 17
    0
    I discovered this article and as a motorcyclist (I still drive on the XVZ1300), I could not help writing my thoughts. To shoot along the intersection and steer with one hand is almost immediately fly into the ditch ... At the same time, my senior friend told me that he served in the army (45 years ago) as a motorcyclist! Or motorized rifle. So they had a mandatory exercise - shooting on the go. You drive a two-wheeled motorcycle with one hand, and you hold and shoot the other machine ... He told this after 0,5 drunk ... laughing But I always doubted his story: shoot right-handed, then the gas stick must be released and the motorcycle will slow down ... As they say, what I bought for ....
    But the very idea of ​​equipping the army with quadrics is sound. Mobility is increased by an order of magnitude. And it's better to drive badly in the rain than to walk well with a load of spaulders ... I put on a raincoat from chemical protection and the rain is no longer scary even riding a quadric ... You can't pull it out of the swamp with your hands on the UAZ. Those. UAZ for other purposes. "Cheburashka" to reanimate, closer to the quadric ... And its patency is fantastic. But a quad is still an individual mobility ... And how many of them can you cram into a helicopter / plane / truck body? And then parachute to complete the task ... Yes, in each quadric there is a border with a reserve of shots that you cannot carry on yourself, etc.
    Equipment from the company STELS- well, not for the army, it is intended ... Although this company was founded by former tankers laughing ... And, of course, it is necessary to establish the production of Russian engines. And for snow, it is necessary to supply removable caterpillars to the quadrics. It’s all been invented a long time ago ... By the way, not every snowmobile will ride normally in deep puff ... In short, the idea is sound and you need to work on its normal implementation ...