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A voice from The Hague: Russia and Ukraine are fighting!

As the International Criminal Court has previously established, the annexation of the Crimea and Sevastopol "is equivalent to the international armed conflict between Ukraine and the Russian Federation." That is how the ICC Prosecutor Fatou Bensuda believes. Following the ICC document, another document was tentatively approved - already at the UN level. The Third Committee of the UN General Assembly adopted the Ukrainian draft resolution on human rights in Crimea, condemning the “infringement” of these rights.

The International Criminal Court, registered in the city of The Hague, published on November 14 a report on the preliminary investigation of the Ukrainian conflict ( link on the source file in PDF format).

Fatou Bensuda (Fatou Bensouda), the prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, acknowledged that the situation in the Crimea and the city of Sevastopol "is equivalent to an international armed conflict between Ukraine and the Russian Federation." This is actually a recognition of the war between Russia and Ukraine. True, the “international armed conflict” is recognized with a significant caveat: “According to the information received ...” The reservation may seem trivial, because we are still talking about a court decision. In fact, if you carefully read, the reservation is serious. And if the reader understands the sense of irony, he will immediately admit that "according to the information received" is equivalent to the OBS agency ("One grandma said").

The report further provides the date for the start of this international war: no later than February 26. This is not about 2016, but about 2014. It was on that day, according to the OBS agency, pardon, the Hague court, that the Russians involved personnel in the Crimea in the Crimea. This was done for the sake of "gaining control over parts of Ukrainian territory without the consent of the Ukrainian government." By "parts" in the plural are the peninsula of Crimea and the city of Sevastopol separately.

“International Armed Conflict” developed after 18 in March 2014 of the year (after the announcement of the inclusion of the Crimea and Sevastopol into the Russian Federation). The court is convinced that the inclusion of the Crimea and Sevastopol into Russia is equivalent to "the continuing state of occupation."

In 2014, the Russian military participated in establishing control over the territory where Ukrainian military bases and government buildings were located. The ICC document states that since mid-March 2014, the Ukrainian government began to withdraw military units and units located on the Crimean bases “to the main territory of the country”.

According to the judges, the establishment of the fact of the legality of the initial intervention is not required, since, in accordance with the Rome Statute, armed conflict can be recognized as international in essence if the state partially or fully occupies the territory of another state. It turned out at the same time, or there was no armed resistance, it does not matter.

Fatu Bensuda reports that "taking over the control of the Crimea by the Russian Federation occurred as a whole without a firefight."

Recall the referendum on the status and nationality of the peninsula was held on the territory of Crimea 16 March, then it was declared invalid by Ukraine and many member states of the UN General Assembly.

What is “according to the information received” in the report of the Prosecutor of the ICC?

There is nothing secret here.

The preliminary document states that the prosecutor’s office is currently studying materials collected by non-governmental organizations working in Ukraine. Among the materials - reports on polls and other information from witnesses, as well as "victims." The information seems to be based on a considerable number of reliable sources. Based on all these “reports” and “testimonies,” the prosecutor’s office created a database of eight hundred allegedly documented incidents. Collected Works received the title "The situation in Ukraine." Now the ICC continues to carry out "analysis of information" obtained in respect of an international armed conflict.

And this is also a very important reservation, which must be accepted with irony.

Recall the conclusion of the court - preliminary. And the headlines in various media about the “recognition of the conflict” over the Crimea as international and even armed are not completely true. They are catchy, loud, but not accurate. The press plays in words and in the nerves.

The continuation of the “analysis of information” by the ICC means that the prosecutor is still trying to understand whether there are sufficient grounds to believe that “the alleged crimes” (quoted in the document) fall under the jurisdiction of the court in The Hague.

Thus, the ICC is not even sure that the “international armed conflict” in the Crimea concerns this court at all in any way!

Nevertheless, Ukraine has already made out the first steps to a judicial victory over Russia.

Dmitry Razumkov, an expert of the Ukrainian Political Consulting Group, finds a great achievement in collecting information for transfer to the ICC with the subsequent possibility of consideration in the framework of the creation of a lawsuit against the Russian Federation. "The key aspect in this report is the moment that the annexation of the Crimea is in fact recognized and equated to military occupation," the analyst quotes. "Voice of America". “Despite the fact that Russian troops were led, and after the legislative base was prepared and a screen was created, the Crimea, under“ goodwill ”, came under the jurisdiction of Russia, the International Criminal Court in its preliminary report actually notes the opposite.”

As you can see, here too the reservations are: “actually notes,” and not fully recognize, for example.

Actually, Razumkov himself understands this. According to him, the trial of Russia's actions in Ukraine is not a matter of the near future, but of perspective: “You need not to be deceived, but to be realists. As long as Vladimir Putin remains in power, any statements by international bodies will be diplomatic in nature and will not be fully applied. The precedent with Yugoslavia, considered in the International Criminal Court, is very similar to the situation in Ukraine: torture, abduction, murder, violence, internal migration ”.

On the other hand, this is an amazing political coincidence: the day after news about the preliminary detention of the ICC in the press there was information about the adoption by the UN General Assembly Committee of Ukraine’s resolution on human rights in Crimea. More precisely, their violation.

The Third Committee of the UN General Assembly on social, humanitarian and cultural issues adopted a draft resolution on human rights in Crimea, drafted by Ukraine. The document was voted “for” by the 73 states, including the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada and the countries of the European Union, "". "Against" were the 23 states. 76 countries abstained.

The document condemned “abuses of human rights, discriminatory measures and practices against the inhabitants of Crimea”, including “Crimean Tatars, as well as Ukrainians and persons belonging to other ethnic and religious groups”. The resolution demands to “immediately cancel” the decision on the recognition of the extremist public organization “Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People”, adopted by the Supreme Court of Russia 26 on April 2016.

However, this document should be attributed to the preliminary. It will be submitted to the UN General Assembly in December.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. Wolka
    Wolka 17 November 2016 05: 45
    The ICC’s black aunt prosecutor is completely overwhelmed, an analogy in criminal law is unacceptable, this is a crime against justice in itself ...
    1. Douel
      Douel 17 November 2016 06: 18
      Quite myself see intent. We were trying to draw us into the war with Ukraine in 13 / 14? Tried
      Come out? No. And if it didn’t work out, then it’s necessary to come up with a war. All according to the precepts of PP Kashchenko ... OH! Poroshenko.
      1. twviewer
        twviewer 17 November 2016 15: 56
        And dragged, do not doubt, this was the geopolitical plan. At the same time, the Waltzmann-Schmaltzmanns will be deceived.
        Or will they move and give a place to pure crime in the elite?
        And what about the Ukrainians? first visa to them, right, then also feed ?? Not those guys, Europeans, that will feed out of pity.
        I read the document, they beautifully weave, but where are our hookers?
        After all, it turns out that the ICC recognizes the armed conflict international, i.e. war, and here also DRG in the Crimea, and tomorrow where? In such a situation, you can no longer sit menacingly in the bushes, you have to act.
        In general, it's time for the 3rd Maidan
        1. twviewer
          twviewer 17 November 2016 16: 28
          Oops, Putin also appreciated, but it's only half the battle.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 17 November 2016 08: 06
      Geese geese! - Ha-ha-ha.
      That's why she and The Hague to cast a voice laughing
    3. Aleksander
      Aleksander 17 November 2016 10: 07
      Quote: Volka
      the black aunt of the ICC procurator was very healthy

      They had no right to even consider such things: according to the Statute of the ICC
      his competence includes prosecution Persons responsible for genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity. All!
      He no longer has any authority to make conclusions about the "international nature" of the conflict between the STATES.

      The USA, China, Russia, India-NOT recognize the ICC jurisdiction over itself.

      So the "prosecutor" can go to the toilet with her opinion
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 17 November 2016 05: 51
    A voice from The Hague ... is it from here or something?
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 17 November 2016 06: 08
      A voice from The Hague ... is it from here or something?

      smile What shit does BENSUDA work in ... belay
      1. Jackking
        Jackking 17 November 2016 11: 11
        I will say more - she herself is flesh from the flesh of this substance :)))
      2. soaring
        soaring 17 November 2016 11: 43
        smile What shit does BENSUDA work in?...belay

        Therefore, the colors of this, this BENSUDA ..... lol Yes
    2. Finches
      Finches 17 November 2016 06: 12
      The Hague, or rather our participation in it, is the criminal legacy of the corrupt foreign policy of Yeltsin and his pro-American mongrels, such as Kozyrev ... There is nothing interesting there and we don’t need it - even pay attention to it inappropriately! We need to generally consider questions of Russia's participation in such organizations and especially in those where we pay fees! One serious office, where we should be, is enough - the UN Security Council!
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 17 November 2016 10: 20
        One serious office where we should be enough is enough - UN Security Council
        In your opinion, the Security Council is a serious office? Something lately, all the leading democratic countries of the West, in a democratic way, spit on it. Nothing but heart-rending screams about "aggressive" Russia is heard from there.
    3. 210ox
      210ox 17 November 2016 06: 15
      Yeast planted from Washington ..
    4. andron-30
      andron-30 19 November 2016 13: 57
      Well, yes, the Hague Klaak, very consonant, and the decisions also smell like shit, well, the bastard is also not the first freshness, but where should the poor Russian go?
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 17 November 2016 05: 56
    “According to the information received ...”

    Announce the list ... The Hague has long been a tool of political pressure on objectionable countries as well as a place for money laundering.

    Billion dollars and 4 sentences ... in how ... cool work.
    For such grandmothers in my NOVOSIBIRSK police on one day transplant all thieves, hooligans, bandits and their deputies for years to come.
  4. cap
    cap 17 November 2016 06: 03
    73 states voted for the document, including USA, UK, Canada and European Union countries, reports "" “Against” were 23 states. 76 countries abstained.

    The whole gang gathered, the rest in the wings. They wanted a trial. A donut hole in the sky, who knows what I’ll understand, will understand. hi
  5. EvgNik
    EvgNik 17 November 2016 06: 17
    The Hague - to hell with a mother. She has outlived herself. And it’s not international for a long time.
  6. Knowing
    Knowing 17 November 2016 06: 23
    Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree that the Russian Federation will not be a party to the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. The document is published on the official Internet portal of legal information.
    The Foreign Ministry will forward a notification of this decision to the UN Secretary General.
    - so let them "push" their verdict to themselves .. well, they will find where ...
  7. umka571
    umka571 17 November 2016 06: 26
    Black-assed doesn’t calm down in any way, it rushes openly around the world, and crap without hiding
  8. captain
    captain 17 November 2016 06: 44
    I am amazed at the desire of our politicians and officials of various levels to participate in various overseas organizations. At the same time, an absolute non-negligent attitude towards the interests of our country. China, India and many other states did not accept the jurisdiction of the Hague ICC and feel very good and money from the treasury is not sent to these organizations and the person is saved A huge number of states do not participate in PACE and do not die. And our deputies and officials have joined all possible organizations, the state pays money, our political and bureaucratic 'elite' rolls at the expense of the people to these organizations, and when they are put in a stall there, they raise a howl about the bias of these organizations, take Madame an example In this regard, from China and India, take care of the honor and money of our Motherland.
    1. Uncle Murzik
      Uncle Murzik 17 November 2016 09: 20
      so many rejoice that he founded the Nicholasn Amperer in The Hague, an international peace conference! belay
      1. novel66
        novel66 17 November 2016 09: 31
        just not in a new way - otherwise the Canadian will come running
        1. Uncle Murzik
          Uncle Murzik 17 November 2016 17: 14
          Yes, you don’t even need to pay attention to this Simpsonian idiot! laughing
    2. DMoroz
      DMoroz 17 November 2016 10: 14
      and the Ami, too, did not ratify the Rome Statute, which does not prevent them from manipulating this ICC in their interests ...
    3. uskrabut
      uskrabut 17 November 2016 11: 03
      For me, you can only participate in that international organization whose activities Russia controls or has the right to veto.
  9. Egoza
    Egoza 17 November 2016 06: 55
    Let The Hague not squeak, but Ukraine will think well .....
    Although the Ukrainian government signed the Rome Statute in 2000, a year later the Constitutional Court ruled that this act was contrary to the Constitution. More recently, despite numerous calls from the civil movement and the international community (ratification was one of the EU conditions for signing the Association Agreement with Ukraine), the Ukrainian parliament voted in favor of a three-year delay in ratification.
    So, one of the members of the Verkhovna Rada recently complained that the draft law on the ratification of the Rome Statute was blocked by the parliamentary committee on legal policy and justice, headed by a deputy from the presidential "Petro Poroshenko Bloc." The critic argued that President Poroshenko was not interested in ratifying the statute of the International Criminal Court, as he was afraid to be held responsible for losses among Ukrainian troops as a result of his mediocre leadership.
    And yet, without ratification of the Rome Statute, Ukraine cannot endlessly turn to the ICC for help on a phased basis. Even worse: Ukraine put itself in an awkward position, involving the court in its affairs. Following relevant Ukrainian government declarations, the ICC already has full jurisdiction over any international crimes committed in Ukraine after November 21, 2013. Meanwhile, Ukraine does not enjoy all the privileges of a member state and at the same time will not be able to prevent the prosecution of personnel of the Ukrainian army. The contradictory position of Ukraine only gives rise to thoughts about its guilt.
  10. Karayakupovo
    Karayakupovo 17 November 2016 07: 00
    If we act according to the logic of such as the ICC, then after a wave of accusations that Trump is Putin's man, then we stock up on beer and wait for another "pearl" from the ICC about "the occupation of US territory by Russia without an armed conflict." So, we are waiting.
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 17 November 2016 07: 09
    Our authorities have already sent this ICC to hell, explaining the reason. It is clear where this "decision" of the court leads - to accuse Russia of war crimes and further down the list. I am not a racist, but looking at one of the sessions of this court today on the news, I saw there solid blacks from countries that many had not heard of.
  12. Masya masya
    Masya masya 17 November 2016 07: 48
    A voice from The Hague: Russia and Ukraine are fighting!

    As for the Hague, I have to say that I don’t like her songs ...
  13. Altona
    Altona 17 November 2016 07: 53
    By the way, the United States, having heard about the accusations of 60-something of its servicemen in torture, immediately said about the "inappropriateness of this position of the ICC." Well, that is, you judge anyone you like, but you don't dare touch the United States. If you call in from the positions that this African aunt said, then it turns out that the United States has occupied several countries, keeps its troops there, and it does not "matter" and "despite the fact that troops were brought in, and then a corresponding legal basis was prepared. ". The fact that the United States is carrying out military operations without a UN mandate does not bother her aunt in every sense of the procedural and judicial black. So "don't worry aunt, people are free, not with anyone in prison." By the way, how does the ICC characterize the blocking of water in Crimea and the blowing up of power lines? These are apparently exclusively humanitarian missions carried out from Ukrainian territory.
  14. parusnik
    parusnik 17 November 2016 08: 12
    But Russia came to war ...?
  15. Altona
    Altona 17 November 2016 08: 38
    Quote: parusnik
    But Russia came to war ...?

    ICC investigators are intensively looking for Russian leaders in the LDNR armed groups.
  16. Pasha
    Pasha 17 November 2016 08: 59
    in February 17, all rhetoric will change.
    the great Ukrainians are tired of everything - the project failed, the influence of the West ends,
    secrets will soon be revealed, and about Boeing, and about Maidan and about the rest.
    and we, the witnesses of all events, must draw conclusions.
    and change ourselves and change others.
  17. Mwg
    Mwg 17 November 2016 10: 10
    Let the respected ICC prosecutor Fatu Bensuda first give an assessment of the actions of the United States around the world in their wars, try to bring those responsible from the United States to justice, and only then we can talk about Russia.
  18. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 17 November 2016 10: 17
    It is our patience that expresses delirium, and especially from the Hague prosecutor, that surprises us, rather than sending these lackeys to our deadliest enemies! What is not enough shameful trial in relation to Yugoslavia-Serbia and the actual murder of Milosevic? Something is not heard about the discussion of the war crimes of the American military from Vietnam to the present day, but one aggression against Grenada is already a material for criminal prosecution, and the United States almost every year together with its allies commit aggression against sovereign states, and where the Hague prosecutors ?!
    1. Volzhanin
      Volzhanin 17 November 2016 20: 39
      This is because, in our leadership, the gut is thin even to raise and discuss this issue. In addition, frank liberals, who constitute the overwhelming majority in the thieves ’united party, have settled in the State Duma.
      And they do not yap at the owners with a hand. So we live flowing around and wiping ourselves. This is the price of betrayal.
      Most importantly, when Nigers and Arabs decapitate and burn the Geyropeans to observe these processes without interfering, from a distance, realizing what false animals they are exterminating.
  19. uskrabut
    uskrabut 17 November 2016 10: 54
    What I want, then I turn laughing well done chernopopaya! Neither the facts nor the evidence for you, the referendum is not a decree - BEAUTY! Not for nothing on the cast-iron gates of the ICC office bas-relief slut with naked boobs.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 17 November 2016 11: 02
      Quote: uskrabut
      bas-relief slut with naked boobs.

      But the chicken leg is in the "causal" place, but under the blanket it ...
    2. Proton
      Proton 17 November 2016 14: 12
      And themis has always been a corrupt girl am and her eyes are blindfolded because it wouldn’t be possible to see who gave what)))
  20. iouris
    iouris 17 November 2016 11: 55
    Be married to me: neither the Russian Federation, nor Kiev, nor even the United States have ratified the ICC agreement. At the same time, the IUK established that these states are allegedly at war. Hi trump
  21. Aristide
    Aristide 17 November 2016 13: 21
    Yes, stupidity rules the world!
  22. Proton
    Proton 17 November 2016 14: 16
    Infectious is the thing to communicate with in Washington laughing this nonsense reminds me of the Master and Margarita, as the entire department alternately sang songs of excellence and squatted down.
  23. Simple
    Simple 17 November 2016 16: 08
    LIVE: Russian FM spokesperson Zakharova holds press briefing in Moscow.

  24. Disorder
    Disorder 17 November 2016 20: 31
    The Rome Statute entered into force in 2002. This is the basis of the ICC. Moscow signed an international treaty in 2000, but did not ratify. Thus, in Russia, as well as in the USA, China and a number of other countries, its jurisdiction does not extend.

    Neither the Crimean Government nor Russia did anything within the jurisdiction of the ICC.
    So catch the carnations in your coffin.

    PS Before the report on the Crimea, there was a report on Afghanistan. And given that the African prosecutor - it’s easy to imagine Trump’s reaction.
  25. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 17 November 2016 20: 33
    I do not unreasonably hope that when a fire of bloody massacre breaks out in a geyrop, it will not occur to our leadership to provide any assistance to Russophobian geyropic lying geeks.
  26. andron-30
    andron-30 19 November 2016 13: 46
    so somehow the "international" would be a button on the keyboard below the lower one pressed and wrote about that "court" that is trying to turn Russia, my homeland into a ghoul and a villain, so you are big and fat, but loves and knows how to fuck the USA and Europe, but it's not about that, oh yes, a gang of robbers and murderers (read rapists, pedophiles, cattle lovers,) and other perverts have gathered and let's judge how WE ARE SIMPLE CITIZENS, THE PARENTS OF THEIR CHILDREN DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAVE OUR EVERYTHING. SAVE AND BURN IN HELL
  27. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 19 November 2016 20: 24
    In The Hague, the United States order music. soldier