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NI: Compared with Sarmat, the American ICBM is a “reactive toothpick”

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The Russian Sarmat rocket will be the most advanced in its class, one alone will suffice to destroy, for example, the state of Texas, writes military analyst Michael Peck in his article for The National Interest.


NI: Compared with Sarmat, the American ICBM is a “reactive toothpick”


The analyst decided to compare the Russian ICBM with the American “Minuteman III”, which is on combat duty today

"Stoton" Sarmat "(according to the NATO classification" Satan-2 ") with more than a dozen warheads makes the 39-ton" Minuteman "just a" reactive toothpick "," Peck quotes Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

At the same time, the author notes, the United States "entered the new rocket race, starting the development of ground-based strategic deterrence ICBMs (Ground Based Strategic Deterrent - GBSD), which will cost 85 billion dollars only by preliminary calculations.

The Pentagon declares the need for this development, "since the current infrastructure of ballistic weapons was created in the middle of the 1960-s, and" Minuteman III "was first deployed in the 1970-m."

"This is good news for defense contractors. But is it worth spending such money on development? ”, Asks the analyst. He recalls that "the decisive advantage of" Sarmat "is high accuracy." In addition, the Russian rocket has an “innovative missile defense system”.

In passing, Peck notes that the ability to bypass the Russian ICBM missile defense may not be necessary, since The American system "will be able to withstand only the armament of North Korea or Iran." In addition, it has a number of disadvantages that reduce its effectiveness.

Although, given the low probability of using nuclear weapons, "" Minuteman "could easily remain in service with a dozen years."

“New missiles may be needed when old ones become unreliable or too expensive to maintain. Nevertheless, there are more promising technologies in comparison with the mine-based ICBMs — for example, hypersonic weapons that are developed in a number of countries, ”the analyst concluded.
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  1. dr.star75
    dr.star75 15 November 2016 16: 16
    +7
    Judging by the reports, the Americans are strongly ..... about their nuclear potential.
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 15 November 2016 16: 26
      +10
      The Sarmat is a masterpiece of modern missile weapons, and the Minuteman 3 was a good rocket in the 70s of the last century, so the Americans will not create a missile like the Sarmat for a long time.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 15 November 2016 16: 51
        +14
        Quote: Thought Giant
        "Sarmat" is a masterpiece of modern missile weapons

        Which is not yet in service. And all data on this ICBM is classified.
        Quote: Thought Giant
        and "Minuteman 3" is a good rocket in the 70s of the last century

        Minuteman-3 was relevant in the zero.
        1. Temples
          Temples 15 November 2016 17: 03
          +15
          Here we need an approach like in American trade or a liberal view of production.
          Liberalists said: - Russians do not need to make cars, tractors, computers, televisions, telephones, etc. After all, all this is better done in other countries.
          So the Americans don’t need to do ICBMs as the Russians do better. hi
        2. Monarchist
          Monarchist 15 November 2016 18: 22
          0
          Tut m You are right: Minentman had a serious argument
        3. hydrox
          hydrox 15 November 2016 19: 45
          +1
          [/ quote] Minuteman-3 was relevant in the zero. [/ quote]
          Actual in comparison with Satan !?
          Well, that you have already taken too much.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 15 November 2016 20: 20
            +3
            Quote: hydrox
            Actual in comparison with Satan !?
            Well, that you have already taken too much.

            It was relevant from the perspective that it was a very serious argument for us.
      2. electrooleg
        electrooleg 15 November 2016 17: 03
        +5
        First, let at least the engines learn how to do it.
        1. CAMS
          CAMS 16 November 2016 06: 00
          +3
          Americans don’t need to develop their MBR, but we have to because we are weak and this is the only club that restrains aggressors. The minuteman is still relevant, we won’t be able to repulse all the missiles, if this is news to someone ... and the Americans are developing about and this is work for the prospect of covering the whole world, they will never give up on this, therefore we are forced to develop our MBR with the ability to crack pro and for us it is unprofitable, but necessary! and the minuteman is still relevant
      3. aiden
        aiden 15 November 2016 19: 15
        +2
        And the brain drain has decreased, German technology has ended, industrial hacking is well cut.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 16 November 2016 03: 42
          +3
          Quote: aiden
          German technology is over

          The Nazis, taken out of Germany in accordance with the Skrepka plan, died out - and there was nothing to fly into space, and the missiles were of the wrong system ... Allies, blea .....
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 15 November 2016 16: 33
      +6
      Sorry that is not the topic. The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation began to inflict massive precision strikes on the Basmachi in the ATS. Admiral Grigorovich, the newest missile frigate of the Black Sea Fleet, fired a volley of calibers. Bastion coastal complexes were also used, as well as aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces.
      Source: TV channel "Russia-24"
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 15 November 2016 17: 05
        +3
        Well, it means that it was not in vain that they drove through the polocean.
      2. Monos
        Monos 15 November 2016 17: 36
        +7
        Quote: GSH-18
        Bastion coastal complexes were also used.

        I did not understand this. What were the targets of the "bastions" and where did they come from in Syria?
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 15 November 2016 18: 09
          +3
          Monos Bastions there for a long time, almost with our arrival in Syria they are.
        2. Senior manager
          Senior manager 15 November 2016 20: 35
          +4
          What, delivered and not reported? Well, just some disgrace
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 16 November 2016 03: 44
            +3
            Quote: St. Propulsion
            What, delivered and not reported? Well, just some disgrace

            Sarcasm appreciated. We need to take an example from the Yankees - they for 4 months to the whole world have torn apart the plan of taking Mosul - that’s why they fuck ....
        3. GSH-18
          GSH-18 15 November 2016 23: 26
          +1
          Quote: Monos
          Quote: GSH-18
          Bastion coastal complexes were also used.

          I did not understand this. What were the targets of the "bastions" and where did they come from in Syria?

          Take a look at Russia-24, there Shoigu clarified everything.
          On the ground, previously explored, by the Bastions.
          Is something embarrassing? Deck Dryers first bombed on the Basmachi good
          http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2821986
    3. GSH-18
      GSH-18 15 November 2016 16: 40
      0
      Quote: dr.star75
      Judging by the reports, the Americans are strongly ..... about their nuclear potential.

      Trump said he will increase the military budget for these needs.
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 15 November 2016 16: 51
        +4
        The Americans are talking about ... their plants that make nuclear bombs. From the word at all. They have NOT ONE!
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 15 November 2016 23: 36
          +4
          Quote: dr.star75
          The Americans are talking about ... their plants that make nuclear bombs. From the word at all. They have NOT ONE!

          I wouldn’t be so happy. The measures, under the guise of disposal, stole our plutonium, which greatly simplifies the nuclear weapons production process.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 16 November 2016 03: 47
            +3
            Quote: GSH-18
            Measure under the guise of recycling stolen our plutonium which greatly simplifies the nuclear weapons production process

            You missed something - they didn’t stole ours, but didn’t want to dispose of their own. Big, you know, the difference ....
    4. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 15 November 2016 16: 45
      +12
      Quote: dr.star75
      Judging by the reports, the Americans are strongly ..... about their nuclear potential.

      Even so, it doesn't mean anything. The answer about the real state of their nuclear forces can only be given by an error ... Do we need it? Plus, the mattresses have their own "all-polymers", the most famous of which is the "arms driver" McCain. I would not be surprised at the presence in the mattress of a resource similar to our VO, on which such topics are discussed in approximately the following vein: "You know, Johnny, tomorrow the Russian hordes will come, and we - with bare ass. Obama has leaked everyone with shit ... Does he believe in HPO ?! Putin's agents are everywhere !!! We got ... " yes Well, something like this.
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 15 November 2016 16: 54
        +2
        Of course, I would not want to know this during the war, but, nevertheless, this is a fact.
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 16 November 2016 03: 48
        +2
        Quote: Paranoid50
        The answer about the real state of their nuclear forces can be given only by a collision ...

        Last in the history of mankind ....
    5. GSH-18
      GSH-18 15 November 2016 16: 53
      +1
      In passing, Peck notes that the ability to bypass the missile defense of the Russian ICBM may not be necessary, because the American system "can only confront the weapons of North Korea or Iran."

      laughing laughing laughing
      It is prohibitively tough. You can’t mock too much about an advanced American pro. lol
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 15 November 2016 17: 53
        +6
        "You can't mock too much of an advanced American pro" ///

        He told the truth: US missile defense is currently capable of
        shoot down Chinese or Korean ICBMs over the Pacific with approximately 50% efficiency
        and different BRDS with approximately 75% efficiency.
        The latest Russian ICBMs are prepared for the next round of missile defense development, which is not yet available.
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 15 November 2016 20: 04
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          The latest Russian ICBMs are prepared for the next round of missile defense development, which is not yet available.

          You can think of the outdated Sineva Yankees have protection. Negotiate and only negotiate. Here is the best missile defense system, because 12-16 swing gliders have long been experiencing. A nuclear charge is not needed with such kinetic energy
        2. GSH-18
          GSH-18 15 November 2016 23: 44
          +2
          Quote: voyaka uh
          He told the truth: US missile defense is currently capable of
          shoot down Chinese or Korean ICBMs over the Pacific with approximately 50% efficiency

          Well, okay. In addition to the ground-based missile defense component in the Pacific, they have URO destroyers with IJIS and SM-3 jambs. So, in their place, being pissed off is equivalent to begging for misappropriation of the budget. request
        3. CAMS
          CAMS 17 November 2016 04: 59
          0
          what they are ready to shoot down, you achrenet in rezultat !!! There is no FACT and no one is shown the start and there is a very fast one, and the border is close. FACT which is very visible to everyone
    6. opus
      opus 15 November 2016 17: 08
      +5
      Quote: dr.star75
      Judging by the reports, the Americans are strongly ..... about their nuclear potential.

      by whose "messages"?





      Quote: azer
      To be praised is to be afraid so?


      August Bebel:
      If the enemy praises you, consider what stupidity you have committed.
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 15 November 2016 17: 12
        +2
        According to the SGA. All the plants that can do yao are closed.
        1. Hapfri
          Hapfri 15 November 2016 18: 26
          +1
          According to the SGA. All the plants that can do yao are closed.
          Not so long ago, they discussed how Russia exported all its plutonium to America.
          1. dr.star75
            dr.star75 15 November 2016 18: 34
            +1
            A little bit wrong, but essentially not at all.
          2. hydrox
            hydrox 15 November 2016 19: 59
            +1
            [/ quote] Not so long ago we discussed how Russia exported all its plutonium to America [/ quote]
            Don’t drive Deza: Russia has never given such raw materials to the USA, except in the form of enriched uranium, suitable only as fuel for nuclear power plants. Americans closed only plants for the enrichment of raw materials, so they can not even make fuel assemblies.
            1. GSH-18
              GSH-18 15 November 2016 23: 52
              +2
              Quote: hydrox
              Don’t drive Deza: Russia has never given such raw materials to the USA, except in the form of enriched uranium

              If you aren’t in the know, it’s best to shut up and listen to knowledgeable people.
              Quote: hydrox
              Americans closed only plants for the enrichment of raw materials, so they can’t even do fuel assemblies.

              This is you telling their Westinghouse company, they will laugh with pleasure.
              It is necessary to include brains before writing. It turns out (if you listen) in the United States that electricity generation at nuclear power plants will soon cease, all nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers will stand up! fool
              1. MarioG
                MarioG 17 November 2016 22: 59
                0
                Quote: GSH-18
                It is necessary to include brains before writing.

                Stealing the brain is not intended for this. lol
        2. opus
          opus 15 November 2016 18: 41
          +6
          Quote: dr.star75
          According to the SGA

          And what is "SGA"? OBS?

          Quote: dr.star75
          All the plants that can do yao are closed.

          1. Work at full capacity to provide nuclear power plants in the United States.
          Not enough for them (104 NPP reactor in the country)
          "Gore-Chernomyrdin deal"
          By the time the program ended, Russian uranium (weapons-grade) had ensured over the past 15 years the production of 10% of all electricity generated in the USA.

          The USSR gained about 1260 tons. After selling HEU-LEU 500 tons, Russia now has not 1260 tons U235, and 760 + -50 tons

          2. With 2013, the US resumed production of plutonium-238.
          Even the Oak Ridge National Laboratory has made plans for up to 1,5 kilograms of plutonium per year (by irradiating neptunium in a reactor)

          3. The US Department of State published official data in 2013, according to which the States now have 792 deployed intercontinental ballistic missiles, ballistic missiles in submarines and heavy bombers. As indicated in the report, as of March 1 2013, the number of the same weapons of the Russian Federation amounted to 492 units. In total, the United States has at its disposal 1654 nuclear warheads on deployed ICBMs, SLBMs and TB, and Russia has 1480 nuclear warheads on similar carriers.
          4. Where did you divide the USEC (was a structural unit of the US Department of Energy) DOE) with its gas diffusion plant in Paduc?
          which has ceased to "go bankrupt" and is now called Centrus Energy Corp.
          http://www.centrusenergy.com/
          http://www.centrusenergy.com/who-we-are/history/g
          aseous-diffusion-plants / paducah /

          ?

          In the 1998 year, the US Government conducted the HEU-LEU program, transferring it to the civilian sector 174 tons of weapons-grade uranium

          In 2005, the US Department of Energy again announced the transfer of another 40 tonnes of "substandard" highly enriched uranium to natural uranium. For some reason, this amount of uranium turned out to be quite “tainted” by the 236U isotope, which is why a separate “mixing” program - BLEU (Blended Low-Enriched Uranium) was declared.
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 15 November 2016 20: 09
            0
            SGA is the United States in Wasserman.
            Their problem is that they are used to making bombs from putiniya, but they have not learned how to make fuel assemblies from uranium - that's what they are suffering from. laughing
            Our people know how to do this out of all shit, and do well: there’s a series of BNs launched - this bunch of breeders will make us so much mess that even butter bread for barmaley! lol
            1. opus
              opus 15 November 2016 22: 21
              +1
              Quote: hydrox
              SGA is the United States in Wasserman.

              reached
              Quote: hydrox
              but did not learn how to make fuel assemblies from uranium

              Don't make people laugh. "Didn't learn"
              Westinghouse Electric Company is the world leader in pressurized water and boiling water reactors, about 20% all world supplies of reactor fuel (TVEL) and controls up to 50% of all commercial power units in the world.

              TVEL annual turnover - $ 35 billion,
              75% of it is divided between three world-class companies - American (or rather US-Japanese already) Westinghouse (31%), French Areva (27%) and Russian TVEL FC (17%)

              At nuclear power plants in the USA, Canada, Japan, etc., etc.


              who supplies assemblies? Do you think TVEL FC?
              UNSUITABLE!
              Unlike Russian, fuel cells in reactors of American, European and Japanese design are located in a square package.


              Regarding TVS-W, it is still not clear whether the Swedes or kakli messed up during transportation (I nod at the kaklov), although TVS-W is clearly an American "hexagonal" counterfeit from TVEL JSC


              The price of the American fuel assembly is ~ 20% higher than the Russian one. This is also understandable (send LEU to Sweden, collect it, call for money, take it to them, after it has been sent to the Thorp processing plant in the UK).
              But "nebrotyam" same Scheissegal.
        3. GSH-18
          GSH-18 16 November 2016 00: 40
          +2
          Quote: dr.star75
          According to the SGA. All the plants that can do yao are closed.

          Do not believe similar messages from the SGA, this is a lie for simplicity.
    7. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 16 November 2016 03: 38
      +2
      Quote: dr.star75
      “This is good news for defense contractors. But is it worth wasting such money on development? ”, The analyst asks.

      “This is good news for defense contractors. But is it worth wasting such money on development? ”, The analyst asks.
      And the analyst does not ask a question - what for such a loot have been included, for example, in the F-35? As always in America - expensive, ponto and useless ....
    8. Pu239
      Pu239 16 November 2016 12: 24
      0
      Not only.
      - Flightless bird F-35,
      - not obtained MOX fuel,
      -operating gas centrifuges,
      - a stalled project of a tank with an uninhabited tower (they try to turn the Abrams tower into an uninhabited -M1A1AIM Block III, but this will most likely happen naturally)),
      - the cost of upgrading Abrams to M1A1AIM Block I is comparable to the cost of a new Armata.
      -Cruiser- monster Zumvolt, scares the pirates with a wooden superstructure.
      - Not able to fly into space, without assistance (RD-181)
      etc. Shaw called quantity in quality.
      1. MarioG
        MarioG 17 November 2016 23: 12
        0
        Quote: Pu239
        Flightless bird F-35,

        Well, of course, they don’t fly, all 200 pieces don’t fly.
        Quote: Pu239
        not obtained MOX fuel
        -operating gas centrifuges,

        If you list everything that the Soviet Union did not work for and the Russian Federation, then a large Soviet enceclopedia will seem a guide wassat
        Quote: Pu239
        the cost of upgrading Abrams to M1A1AIM Block I is comparable to the cost of a new Armata.

        Well, compared, you still compare the budgets of the United States and the Russian Federation, you will discover a lot of new things.
        Quote: Pu239
        The cruiser, the monster Zumvolt, scares the pirates with a wooden superstructure.

        Well yes the argument is no words. All. After that, the Americans will write them off. The best engineer of the forum said so, of course. (From the composite, it is a composite)
        Quote: Pu239
        Not able to fly into space, without assistance (RD-181)

        And why do they need something else if they buy them below seven? They have everything ok.
  2. azer
    azer 15 November 2016 16: 19
    +1
    To be praised is to be afraid so?
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 15 November 2016 16: 38
      +5
      Do not believe the praise of the enemy.
  3. STORM 12
    STORM 12 15 November 2016 16: 20
    +8
    cache beg while confusion in the oral office
  4. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 15 November 2016 16: 20
    +1
    Abandoned heavy weight is also not from a good life ... our accuracy was lower and the charge was required more powerful. Although such a precision is not needed for a massive strike. If we consider the possibility of a point strike on a highly protected object with minimal impact on the environment and residents of t, then the American version is preferable ... And if the continent is washed into ashes, then .....
    1. STORM 12
      STORM 12 15 November 2016 16: 23
      +1
      cobalt status 6
    2. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 15 November 2016 16: 36
      +2
      I do not agree with you. The accuracy of covering the starting positions of the enemy is the key to not receiving the answer.
    3. DenZ
      DenZ 15 November 2016 16: 44
      +7
      Quote: Zaurbek
      our accuracy was lower and a more powerful charge was required.

      Our accuracy was and is at the level of restrictions on power and the number of warheads per strategist. missiles exist thanks to the START-2 treaty and not speculations about low accuracy.
  5. Jarilo
    Jarilo 15 November 2016 16: 21
    +4
    I don’t even know if the Chinese would agree to do ICBMs or not ???
  6. Same lech
    Same lech 15 November 2016 16: 21
    +2
    The United States "entered a new missile race, starting the development of the Ground Based Strategic Deterrent (GBSD) ICBM, which alone would cost $ 85 billion by preliminary estimates."


    Wow ... no way the golden calf came to the PENTAGON ... the arms race begins again ... we begin to measure pipiskas.
  7. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 15 November 2016 16: 30
    +3
    "the American system" will only be able to withstand the armaments of North Korea or Iran ""

    Iceland can also oppose Iran and North Korea, they simply will not reach it.
  8. MarioG
    MarioG 15 November 2016 16: 31
    +5
    And not "masterpieces" you can bang so that from the Earth only firebrands will remain.
    1. KaPToC
      KaPToC 15 November 2016 22: 51
      0
      Quote: MarioG
      And not "masterpieces" you can bang so that from the Earth only firebrands will remain.

      This is megalomania, a person can destroy himself, but cannot destroy the Earth.
      1. MarioG
        MarioG 17 November 2016 23: 28
        0
        Quote: KaPToC
        This is megalomania

        No, just human psychology does not allow this to be recognized.
  9. meGrail
    meGrail 15 November 2016 16: 38
    +2
    It is worth considering, however, that the "hawks" are behind The National Interest, so it is in the interests of this newspaper to escalate the situation of "fouled-American-polymers".
    1. alex73s
      alex73s 15 November 2016 17: 27
      +2
      Quote: meGrail
      It is worth considering, however, that the "hawks" are behind The National Interest, so it is in the interests of this newspaper to escalate the situation of "fouled-American-polymers".


      What nafig "hawks", the magazine "The National Interest" lives on the money of the Russian Federation and China (from the Russian Federation curator Pushkov) - everyone has known about this for a long time
      1. Operator
        Operator 15 November 2016 18: 00
        +4
        The National Interest is published by Center for the National Interest, a non-governmental organization founded by Richard Nixon in 1994. Since its foundation, the chairman of the center is Dmitry Simes, and the honorary chairman of the center is Henry Kissinger.

        Pushkov and did not lie close laughing
  10. DenZ
    DenZ 15 November 2016 16: 40
    0
    The missile (Sarmat) has not yet been fully designed and built, but the Pentagon analysts already "remind that" the decisive advantage of Sarmat is its high accuracy. " Where does this awareness come from? Nuclear warheads and earlier strategists. rockets seemed to be quite high accuracy. For the rest, however, analytech is right in many respects.
    1. parkello
      parkello 15 November 2016 22: 52
      +2
      but there is Poplar M and Yars, which they can not even intercept by 30%. his hair moved on the shop. he really realizes that if something happens, a lot of things will fly to them, the same Clubs, Sineva, Poplar and Yarsa with the Voivode. by the way, they could only shoot down the RS-36 for the 4th time, and only after a beacon was installed on it. so they have something to worry about. they thought that Voivode was the last brainchild of the Russian military-industrial complex in this area. but it turned out to be a prince.)) to the very elbow .. so other, you don’t have tsatska-petskiy ygrati, you need to be kind to it. although as for me, burn all the confusion with a blue flame, keep yogu into a swing. but here he is right, and it’s not in vain to burn a shop for them. yes
  11. Fedyl
    Fedyl 15 November 2016 16: 49
    0
    and the launcher from the Governor?)
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 15 November 2016 20: 14
      0
      Quote: Fedyl
      and the launcher from the Governor?)

      If not even from Stiletto ... in 75 such were built.
  12. opus
    opus 15 November 2016 16: 54
    +2
    Quote: military analyst Michael Peck
    “At the same time, the author notes, the United States“ entered a new missile race by starting the development of Ground Based Strategic Deterrent (GBSD) ICBMs, which, according to preliminary estimates, would cost in xnumx billion dollars "

    The GBSD's estimated cost is $ 62 billion over 30 years. The LRSO's cost has been estimated at $ 20 billion- $ 30 billion.

    Hu from military analyst Michael Peck?

    lives in Oregon and "specializes" in defense and history matters.

    Experience Writer Aerospace America Magazine
    July 2015 - Present (1 year 5 months)
    Writer of National Interest
    April 2014 - Present (2 years 8 months)
    Writer C4ISR & Networks
    August 2013 - Present (3 of the year 4 of the month)
    Managing Editor Foreign Policy Magazine
    September 2011 - Present (5 years 3 months) Washington DC Metro Area
    Writer Contribution
    War boring
    October 2013 - September 2014 (1 year)
    Writer's contribution to the war is boring military blog.
    Forbes.com writer
    September 2012 - February 2014 (1 year 6 months) Writer of defense of the war games blog on Forbes.com
    Multi-station however /
    Editor Training and Modeling Magazine
    May 2006 - July 2013 (7 years 3 months)
    Defense journalist specializing in defense training, simulation and games.
    TrueSlant writer
    2008 - 2010 (2 of the year)
    National blogger security

    I would tell you more about GBSD





    about GBSD vehicle to 2025
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 15 November 2016 16: 58
      0
      The Minuteman-3 QUO 180-210 meters, much more for the nuclear?
      1. opus
        opus 15 November 2016 17: 35
        +3
        Quote: BlackMokona
        The Minuteman-3 QUO 180-210 meters, much more for the nuclear?

        from 2007 to 2012 year, Mk.12A warheads were replaced by Mk.21 (from LGM-118A Peacekeeper). QUO is now close to 90m (subject to the use of BB W87)
        Therefore, to ensure a high probability of hitting a protected target with a CVO of 90 m, a charge of 300ct is required, and with 120 m = 475 ct.
        300 ct and 475 ct = two BIG differences, that in price, that in mass 220 kg versus 350 kg
        mona on "worst end" one or two LNZ (IEO) from L'Garde shove

        Was it in vain that you worked on the "Exoatmospheric Decoy Program"?

        Weight of the head with a cowl - limited in 1150 kg (with BB Mk12A)
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 15 November 2016 18: 03
          0
          Anyway, such a strike does not make sense, because the missiles will leave the mines before the arrival of warheads,
          1. opus
            opus 15 November 2016 18: 51
            +1
            Quote: BlackMokona
            because the missiles will leave the mines before the arrival of warheads,

            leave or not leave, then the grandmother said twice
            And what about “Strategic Management Centers”?
            and the spare capital of Russia?
            But what about the strategic reserve of Russia?
            1. Blackmokona
              Blackmokona 15 November 2016 19: 39
              +1
              Fly away for 5 minutes, and flies for 15. The understandable layout.
              Nafig nobody will need strategic management centers, there will be nothing to manage.
              No one will have time to evacuate anywhere in 15 minutes. A remarkable example was shown by the incident in the USA, when the curriculum, the Presidential plane, accidentally launched into the NORAD computers, flew with whom he was on board without even waiting for the president. Because in 15 minutes to arrive at the airport, take off and leave the affected area is unrealistic. NORAD staff was preparing for death, they called their relatives because it was unrealistic to run away, and nowhere to go, the nuclear forces were ready for a counter-strike, while the president quietly ran for walks and the country continued to sleep peacefully, because no one even raised the alarm . Fortunately, data came from SPRN and stopped the counter-strike. It will also happen in the event of a real attack.
              Just didn’t give up to anyone. During the chaos and vacuum of power that will arise after a nuclear strike. No one will do up to these stocks.
              PS: If you say that this is just a national glitch of the United States, then I remind you that when the USSR’s SPRN recorded an attack by the United States, our commander did not inform anyone who considered the attack to be false, and sat quietly and watched as the rockets were approaching. It’s good that she really was false. Imagine not?
              1. opus
                opus 15 November 2016 21: 23
                +1
                Quote: BlackMokona
                Fly away for 5 minutes, and flies for 15. The understandable layout.

                5 and 15 min?
                Who told you such nonsense?
                1. Pershing-2 record holder (MGM-31C): 8-10 minutes (to the center of the European part of the USSR-Moscow). They have not been around for a long time
                2. The minimum flying time of Trident-2 and Minuteman-3 American ballistic missiles is 15-20 and 25-35 minutes, respectively
                The minimum launch line of 5000 is 5500 kilometers for current ICBMs. Less - This is the INF Treaty. But there are none. Officially, anyway
                3. P-36М2 “Voivode” (15П018М) with ICBMs 15А18М Launch time from full alert, with 62
                Like yes ...
                but the decision to press the "button" will obviously take not even 10 minutes.
                And the nuclear submarine has even more: it needs to reach the echelon (depth) of launch: 35-50м
                They do not patrol at that depth.
                Quote: BlackMokona
                No one will have time to evacuate anywhere in 15 minutes.

                No one will give a start command in 15 minutes just "like that"

                1962.01.09 Cuba and the USSR enter into a trade agreement
                1962.leto In Cuba, Soviet medium-range missiles aimed at the United States were secretly deployed.
                1962.09.02 USSR agrees to provide arms to Cuba.
                1962.09.04 The US President issued a special statement in which he demanded that Cuba limit its defense capabilities and threatened to intervene. 150.000 reservists were mobilized.
                1962.09.11 The USSR called on the US government to "show prudence".
                1962.09.25 Fidel Castro declares that the USSR intends to create a base for its fishing fleet in Cuba.
                1962.10. "Caribbean Crisis" The US government, after the failure of the invasion, announced a naval blockade of the island.
                1962.10.14 U-2 aircraft during Soviet reconnaissance aerial photography recorded medium-range Soviet missiles in Cuba.
                1962.10.16 President J. Kennedy, after reporting on intelligence flights over Cuba, ordered the preparation of an invasion of Cuba.
                1962.10.18 President J. Kennedy Meets with A.A. Gromyko.
                1962.10.22 Beginning of the "Cuban Missile Crisis": in the USA, President Kennedy announces on the radio that the USSR has built a missile base in Cuba. He announces the beginning of a naval blockade of the island to prevent the supply of new Soviet missiles to Cuba and calls on Khrushchev to abandon actions that threaten peace on Earth. The United States has concentrated naval formations and strategic aviation in the Caribbean. In Western Europe, American troops were on alert. US nuclear submarines took up operational positions. The world was on the verge of a thermonuclear war.
                1962.10.23 The US President announced the establishment of a "quarantine" around Cuba from 14:00 on October 24. The USSR government responded by saying that it would deliver "the most powerful retaliatory blow." The UN Security Council was convened to discuss the issue of removing Soviet missiles from Cuba in conjunction with a refusal to invade the island.
                1962.10.26 Khrushchev sends a message to US President Kennedy. On October 27, a statement is published in which the USSR is ready to remove weapons from Cuba, which the United States considers "offensive" on the condition that the United States removes its missiles from Turkey. Kennedy rejects this condition and states that all work at missile bases in Cuba must be stopped.

                Quote: BlackMokona
                USSR SPRN recorded a US attack, our commander didn’t put anyone at all

                "serpukhov -15" September 26, 1983?

                Petrov decided to consider the signal of a nuclear attack false. About which he informed all the services by phone.
                True, in the room of the duty officer there was only special communications, and Petrov sent his assistant to the next one to call on a regular telephone.
                1. Blackmokona
                  Blackmokona 15 November 2016 21: 31
                  0
                  1. Pershing is not ICBMs; small and medium-range missiles are prohibited just because of the short flight time.
                  2. Here and 15 minutes, at least. We proceed from it, from the worst case.
                  3. The decision is made, depending on the leadership. Nothing prevents, Putin to give the order and after 5 minutes, and at this time to prepare for the start of everything and everything. That is, there are approximately 14 minutes from the beginning of the alarm to give the order. The order itself flies at the speed of light, and only the hope that the alarm is false slows down
                  4. However, in the Caribbean crisis, there was no evacuation to the USSR at all.
                  In the USA it was but very limited.
                  5. The idea with the notification is not through special communication, it looks already completely crazy. Alo, this is the secretary general’s office, here you know the Americans launched nuclear missiles, yes yes I’m serious. wassat
                  1. opus
                    opus 15 November 2016 22: 38
                    +1
                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    1. Pershing is not ICBMs; small and medium-range missiles are prohibited just because of the short flight time.

                    I did not argue. This is RB. This is the BRDS. Forbidden under the INF Treaty
                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    2. Here and 15 minutes

                    there is no real SLBM (ICBM all the more) the United States, which will reach us in 15 minutes, or rather they do not go to such a launch position


                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    Nothing's stopping Putin

                    what does this have to do with quo?
                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    That is, there are approximately 14 minutes from the beginning of the alarm to give the order.

                    figs there
                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    4. However, in the Caribbean crisis, there was no evacuation to the USSR at all.

                    who knows?
                    Maybe Khrushchev and the Politburo were already broadcasting from near Krasnoyarsk.

                    Quote: BlackMokona
                    The idea with the notification is not through special communication

                    I was not in the operational duty room.
                    But I doubt that there is a "landline" telephone. But you can check:
                    + 7 (496-7) 72-14-68 - parts on duty;

                    Colonel-General Yuri Votintsev "Why is your combat log not filled just at that time?"
                    lieutenant colonel Stanislav Petrov what : "in one hand I had a pipe through which I reported the situation to the authorities, in the other - a microphone, which amplified my commands for subordinates. So there was nothing to write with."
                    Colonel-General Yuri Votintsev: "Why didn't you fill it in later when the alarm ended?"

                    Colonel General Yuri Votintsev (memories)
                    in July 1983, according to information received from the spacecraft of the KP of this system, a false conclusion was made about the mass launch of missiles from the United States. It is not difficult to imagine before making a decision the leadership of the country and the Armed Forces could be put. The reason is a flaw in the combat program for conditions of increased solar activity. Fortunately, at that time the duties of the operational duty officer on the KP system were performed by a real Professional, deputy head of the department of combat algorithms and programs, Lt. Col. engineer S. E. Petrov. Having instantly analyzed and evaluated the situation and situation, he did not allow the issuance of false information to the KP SPRN.
                    therefore, he didn’t call for special communications
                    1. Blackmokona
                      Blackmokona 15 November 2016 22: 44
                      +1
                      1.There is no rocket, no problem. Moreover, it is of a different class, from the considered Sartam and Minuteman-3.
                      2. Themselves said
                      2. The minimum flying time of American naval ballistic missiles "Trident-2" and "Minuteman-3" is 15-20 and 25-35 minutes respectively

                      The bottom line is the same as my bottom line. All OK.
                      3. Simply, if the missiles flew away, then the KVO to defeat the silos is no longer important.
                      4.Fig there is very reasoned hi
                      5. From where they were broadcasting no matter there, after the death of the population of the USSR, they could broadcast as much as they wanted to the scorched radioactive wastes.
                      6.And now imagine that he was mistaken? What is this not a mistake, but a real attack? That would be fun. Just in case they don’t prepare rockets for launch, they don’t include the Dead Hand, and the American hotels calmly fly themselves.
                      1. opus
                        opus 16 November 2016 02: 01
                        +1
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        is 15-20

                        15 min is theoretical time.
                        They are not on duty at such a launch range. Dangerously.

                        and 25 minutes for Minutman the same no
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        3. Simply, if the missiles flew away, then the KVO to defeat the silos is no longer important.

                        it's important
                        The attack according to the plan MAO-NF ((Major Attack Option-Nuclear Forces)) will last only 30 minutes:
                        -More than 89% of Russian ICBMs will be seriously damaged
                        -all 50 Topol garrisons and their bases will be destroyed
                        -all three SS-24 ICBM rail launch complexes bases will be destroyed by air explosions along with trains
                        -all bases of the Northern and Pacific fleets will turn into radioactive ruins, and all nuclear submarines that will be in ports will become pieces of detonated metal at the bottom of bays
                        -more than 60 important airfields will receive crater-covered runways, and all strategic bombers caught at the bases will be seriously damaged
                        -All 17 nuclear warhead storage facilities will receive their 136 bins in the form of radiation-emitting holes
                        - the entire Russian nuclear weapons development and production complex will fall apart, killing most of the communication specialists across the country in the process will be seriously damaged

                        highlighted are achievable only with their quo

                        SSPK — one warhead per silo —One anti-mine warhead and double-shot kill
                        probabilities (DSPK — two warheads per silo) Two warheads for ground bursts of various US ICBM and SLBM warheads.
                        Probability of hitting the target


                        The probability of hitting the target using DSPK depending on the height of the blasting (HOB) for W87 / W88


                        Physical vulnerability for Soviet-made nuclear warheads and storage facilities for nuclear weapons ammunition (CEP) 130 meters ground demolition W88 and W76.
                        Source: NATO Target Data Inventory Handbook (1989)
                        Severe heavy damage, Moderate-moderate

                        As you can see, KVO is very important.
                        Otherwise, they would not have changed the NS-20A control system to the new NS-50A control system.

                        Inertial control system NS-50A with gyro-stabilized platform AIRS ("Advanced Inertial Reference Sphere")

                        and the Meca-type BCVK LC5400 was developed by the Electronics Division of Northrop Corporation (which acquired Rockwell Autonetics). The BTsVK (developed by "Hewlett-Packard") provides flight control in the active phase of the trajectory, at the stage of disengagement of warheads, as well as during combat duty and in preparation for launch. The high quality of the ISU NS-50A instruments, error accounting and the use of new algorithms ensured high firing accuracy. The drift of the ISU NS-50A is less than 1.5 • 10-5 degrees per hour of operation. To create the required temperature regime, the flight control system is cooled by freon. The rocket electronics is based on radiation-resistant RAM-type semiconductor electronics.
                  2. Operator
                    Operator 15 November 2016 23: 23
                    +1
                    Since the Americans worked on launching SLBMs from a short distance (about 3000 km) along a gentle trajectory, the time for deciding on a Russian retaliatory counter-strike remains for 10 minutes even without RSD.

                    10 minutes is enough to record the mass launch of SLBMs according to two independent sources (satellites and over-the-horizon radars), report to the Supreme Commander, receive a code order from him to launch ICBMs and SLBMs, launch them and fly through the first 50 km of the trajectory, thereby leaving the zone barrage of nuclear explosions.

                    The matter is compounded by the fact that in accordance with the current US military doctrine in the war with Russia or China, an escalation nuclear-nuclear conflict is planned, consisting of several phases:
                    - a special period with the maximum number of nuclear submarines, destroyers and aircraft carriers with sea and air-based cruise missiles with conventional warheads on board being advanced to the enemy’s borders;
                    - the first phase of hostilities with attacks by the 3000-4000 of the Kyrgyz Republic against the priority military targets of the enemy, including Radar, air defense missile launcher, air defense missile launcher launcher, command posts, communication centers, airfield infrastructure, naval bases, ships, etc .;
                    - The second phase of hostilities, depending on the reaction of the enemy; in the event of a response by conventional means, launching of conventional missile and bomb strikes by tactical and carrier-based aircraft, in case of a response by tactical nuclear means, the conflict escalates to this level;
                    - The third phase of hostilities includes a massive nuclear missile strike with the help of ICBMs, SLBMs and strategic aviation.

                    The doctrine of escalation of military conflict aims to reduce the risk of a general nuclear war while maintaining the US initiative to start a war by conventional means.

                    Based on the statements of V. Putin, the Russian military doctrine provides for a massive nuclear missile strike with the use of the KR and the OTRK already at the first stage of the conflict. Given the flying time of US cruise missiles, the Russian leadership will have at least an hour to evacuate and decide on a retaliatory strike.

                    Well, then, how will it turn out - will the NATO countries, Japan and South Korea withdraw from the war after the strikes with nuclear "Caliber" and "Iskander" or not, launching their ICBMs and SLBMs.
                    In the latter case, the Russian military leadership and the mobilized strategic nuclear forces will be ready to retaliate within a few minutes long before the enemy missiles arrive.

                    But to balance the potential capabilities of the United States, France and Britain to strike SLBMs at a short distance with a short flight time, Russia still needs to deploy RSD with a range of up to 5400 km of the Pioneer type in order to reduce the reaction time from three hours (Caliber in nuclear warhead ) up to 20 minutes ("Pioneer").

                    At the same time, we will have the technical opportunity to strike the aggressor first (which plans to use cruise missiles in the first phase) by launching its medium-range ballistic missiles second (at the moment when the Kyrgyz Republic will only cross the borders of Russia).
                    1. Blackmokona
                      Blackmokona 16 November 2016 00: 08
                      0
                      That is, you do not care that when you exit the INF, in the Baltic States and Ukraine, new nuclear missiles will appear with a flight time of less than 5 minutes to Moscow? fool
                      1. Operator
                        Operator 16 November 2016 02: 17
                        0
                        Less than 500 km from the Baltic States and Ukraine to Moscow is the distance of short-range missiles not prohibited by the RSD agreement. Therefore, the situation with the minimum flying time to Moscow will not change from the arming of Russian medium-range missiles.

                        There is no military sense in deploying American RMD in the Baltic states and Ukraine:
                        - firstly, the American doctrine provides for a first strike by launching missiles from outside the impact on their carriers (destroyers and aircraft carriers) of Russian short-range missiles (Iskander-M);
                        - secondly, American short-range missiles at launch from the Baltic States and Ukraine will be vulnerable to interception by the Russian S-300, C-400 and C-500 air defense systems both in the active section of the trajectory (close to the territory of Russia) and in the final section (from for relatively low flight speed).

                        In response to the deployment of Russian RSDs in the Volga region (European theater of operations) and Chukotka (North American theater of operations), the Americans will only increase the number of medium-range missiles (which are already deployed on the European theater of operations on destroyers and aircraft carriers), and we should not forget about today's the possibility of using short-range hundreds of SLBMs from the USA, Britain and France from the Atlantic Ocean with a flight time of 15 minutes.

                        So, in terms of our security, nothing has changed since the late 1980s, despite the conclusion of a treaty on the elimination of ground-based IRBMs. It is no accident that V.Putin called the Gorbachev leadership of the USSR "naive" people.

                        So for us, after deploying our own RSDs, including those reaching Los Angeles, the situation will only improve in terms of comparing the chances with the main opponent.

                        It all depends on Donald Trump: if he withdraws US expeditionary forces from Europe, Japan and South Korea - Russian RSDs are not needed; will not deduce - Vladimir Putin is not to blame am
  13. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 15 November 2016 17: 03
    +2
    I found what to compare with - the difference in generations, even taking into account the modernization of the minuteman, is gigantic. Here, when or if the United States will fashion a new rocket, then is another matter.
  14. Operator
    Operator 15 November 2016 17: 19
    +2
    With a starting weight, the author made a bobble: "Sarmat" pulls 200 tons, the maximum payload (warheads and missile defense means) for the intercontinental range is 10 tons, the maximum range with a lower weight is suborbital (> 40000 km).

    Therefore, against the background of "Sarmat" Minuteman looks like half a toothpick.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 15 November 2016 17: 39
      +1
      Quote: Operator
      against the background of "Sarmat" Minuteman looks like half a toothpick.

      Well, the minuteman at least looks (he is a material phenomenon), and who "Sarmat" saw it. How can you compare with what is not yet there? Some kind of frivolous analytics, to be honest.
      1. Operator
        Operator 15 November 2016 18: 06
        0
        Why would this "Voevoda" (aka Satan), the prototype of "Sarmat", suddenly become invisible?
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 15 November 2016 18: 27
          +2
          That's when they put on combat duty and then compare, and now this is the pounding of water in a mortar.
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          2. Operator
            Operator 15 November 2016 18: 31
            0
            Powerfully pushed, like "I heard a ringing, but I don't know where he is" laughing

            An article published by the Nixon Center does not compare missiles, but missile rearmament programs.
            1. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt 15 November 2016 18: 33
              0
              Of course, and the rocket itself is such a trifle
              1. 78bor1973
                78bor1973 15 November 2016 21: 01
                0
                At least we have in the project, the USA does not even have in the project!
                1. Thunderbolt
                  Thunderbolt 15 November 2016 21: 06
                  0
                  Quote: 78bor1973
                  the US does not even have a project!

                  We have throw tests are about to take place soon.
                  I’m not dedicated to the plans and projects of the Pentagon. They carefully hide what they have and why they need it from our intelligence, and even more so from a simple layman.
                  P.S. Maybe I will seem a bore, but the point of discussing appears only when the calculations in many mines begin duty.
  15. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 15 November 2016 17: 34
    +1
    39-ton "Minuteman" is just a "jet toothpick" and we do not mind that the Americans would continue to pick their teeth with it.
  16. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 15 November 2016 17: 43
    0
    Imagine that you are going to attack your opponent. And he knows about it. But you take some kind of weapon and prepare it for an attack. And the enemy is also aware of your weapons. And you are all getting ready. Already years so 60. And your opponent knows what weapons you are preparing, where to strike, how, by what ...
    To fight the United States with missiles, one must completely abandon the brain. Even one gyrus, and the one obtained by constant pressure, will raise a "red" alarm in your head. Because you would not have come up with anything more stupid, even if you had been thinking continuously for 60 years.
  17. Damir
    Damir 15 November 2016 17: 58
    +2
    entered a new missile race, starting the development of the Ground Based Strategic Deterrent - GBSD

    Well, right, as the blueprints on Yuzhmash were stolen, they started development ..
  18. Evgenijus
    Evgenijus 15 November 2016 19: 06
    +2
    The two missiles of the adversaries cannot be compared in different eras of military confrontation, without taking into account other systems included in the "nuclear strike system." In the early 60s, neither we nor the Americans had maneuvering warheads, there were no missile defense systems, like today's Russia S-400. At that time, you could put two missiles side by side and say - which is better? And now, not only missiles are involved in a nuclear strike, but also missile defense systems, GLONASS, GPS with their military components, and an orbital group of reconnaissance satellites. Only taking into account all these components can we say which rocket is better - Sarmat or Minuteman-3. So which is better? They said here about a toothpick - but I remembered something about hats flying across the front. Then they threw their hats, and now what? An American toothpick, if it reaches us, so many teeth will fly out and not only ...
  19. Peaceful Basmach
    Peaceful Basmach 15 November 2016 19: 09
    0
    preliminary estimates will cost $ 85 billion. "
    That's just a digital inappropriately scare, otherwise they used to damn it.
  20. Karaul73
    Karaul73 15 November 2016 19: 39
    0
    The future is unambiguously a hypersonic weapon. Amerikosy haul their missiles to get more appropriations for the defense industry.
  21. Darth Revan
    Darth Revan 15 November 2016 20: 41
    0
    [quote = A giant thought, so the Americans for a long time do not create such a rocket as Sarmat. [/ quote]

    They like a rocket NEVER EVER do not create!
    1. John Chaedos
      John Chaedos 16 November 2016 01: 56
      0
      Never say never! Do you know what the Americans have in mind, or do they report to you about all the developments? smile
      Moreover, they went the other way, a completely new weapon - the railgun. And the fact that NASA is also interested, it is possible that instead of missiles, a warhead will be launched using an electromagnetic gun. Such a launch will be very difficult to detect, and the arrival time to the target is less than that of a missile launch.
  22. Old26
    Old26 15 November 2016 20: 51
    0
    Quote: hydrox
    Actual in comparison with Satan !?
    Well, that you have already taken too much.

    Is it necessary to compare it with "Satan"? In fact, "comparable" samples are always compared. We are not comparing the Yak-9 with the MiG-21, are we? So it is here. In comparison, it is worth comparing Minuteman-3 rather with Topol and Topol-M, but not with Satan. Rockets of a completely different class. But in relation to "Topol" I must say "Mingitmen-3" was just relevant both in the 3s and now. Moreover, the modernization that the Americans carried out with the Minuteman-2030 extended its service life until 10. We, however, are intensively writing off the Topol, which was put into service XNUMX years later.

    Quote: elektroleg
    First, let at least the engines learn how to do it.

    Stop carrying RAVE... With regard to us in the same way we can say now: "Let them learn to make civil aircraft first." Damn, the Americans bought before their own development of a hundred engines for space carriers is completed, so everyone and everyone is already remembering this.

    Quote: dr.star75
    The Americans are talking about ... their plants that make nuclear bombs. From the word at all. They have NOT ONE!

    Exactly about ... shit? Oh well. They are likely to upgrade 200 warheads per year at Russian plants ....

    Quote: opus
    by whose "messages"?

    Hello Anton!!! Have you decided to come back ?? Very glad

    Quote: opus
    The US State Department published official data in 2013, according to which the United States currently has 792 deployed intercontinental ballistic missiles, submarine ballistic missiles and heavy bombers. As indicated in the report, as of March 1, 2013, the number of the same weapons of the Russian Federation amounted to 492 units. In total, the United States has 1654 nuclear warheads on deployed ICBMs, SLBMs and TB, and Russia has 1480 nuclear warheads on similar carriers.

    There is more recent data. As of September 1, 2016, Russia had 508 units against 641 for the Americans. The number of BBs changed in favor of Russia 1796 for Russia against 1367 for the Americans. But at the same time, before the end of the Treaty, the Americans need to reduce the "extra" 48 carriers (not deployed). We have the number of non-deployed, subject to destruction - 339

    Quote: Fedyl
    and the launcher from the Governor?)

    It is not yet known what alteration is required for this. But the lowest costs in the modernization of PU "Voevod"

    .
    Quote: DenZ
    Limitations on the power and number of warheads per strategist. missiles exist thanks to the START-2 treaty and not speculations about low accuracy.

    In fact, the restrictions were only in quantity, not in power.

    Quote: Operator
    With a starting weight, the author made a bobble: "Sarmat" pulls 200 tons, the maximum payload (warheads and missile defense means) for the intercontinental range is 10 tons, the maximum range with a lower weight is suborbital (> 40000 km).

    According to the "talking head" Yuri Borisov, Deputy Defense Minister. True, no one tried to say in any way how using only 2 engines (the "Voevoda" has 4 of them) it is possible, with the same weight and for almost a ton of heavy load, to get the data that is voiced on the network ...
    1. Operator
      Operator 15 November 2016 20: 57
      +1
      Where does the infa about the two first-stage engines of "Sarmat" come from - from the voice acting on the network? bully
  23. Old26
    Old26 15 November 2016 21: 40
    0
    Quote: Operator
    Where does the infa about the two first-stage engines of "Sarmat" come from - from the voice acting on the network?

    From engine manufacturer report
  24. Dekabrist
    Dekabrist 16 November 2016 00: 21
    +1
    But I wonder if there is a difference from what the fur coat will wrap up, from the ultra-modern "Sarmat" or from the old "Minuteman"? Why are people so happy?
  25. trantor
    trantor 16 November 2016 05: 57
    0
    One hundred-ton "Sarmat" (according to the classification ...

    By weight, it is more on Yars than on Sarmat.
  26. Blackmokona
    Blackmokona 16 November 2016 06: 56
    +1
    Quote: opus
    Quote: BlackMokona
    is 15-20

    15 min is theoretical time.
    They are not on duty at such a launch range. Dangerously.

    and 25 minutes for Minutman the same no
    Quote: BlackMokona
    3. Simply, if the missiles flew away, then the KVO to defeat the silos is no longer important.

    it's important
    The attack according to the plan MAO-NF ((Major Attack Option-Nuclear Forces)) will last only 30 minutes:
    -More than 89% of Russian ICBMs will be seriously damaged
    -all 50 Topol garrisons and their bases will be destroyed
    -all three SS-24 ICBM rail launch complexes bases will be destroyed by air explosions along with trains
    -all bases of the Northern and Pacific fleets will turn into radioactive ruins, and all nuclear submarines that will be in ports will become pieces of detonated metal at the bottom of bays
    -more than 60 important airfields will receive crater-covered runways, and all strategic bombers caught at the bases will be seriously damaged
    -All 17 nuclear warhead storage facilities will receive their 136 bins in the form of radiation-emitting holes
    - the entire Russian nuclear weapons development and production complex will fall apart, killing most of the communication specialists across the country in the process will be seriously damaged

    highlighted are achievable only with their quo

    SSPK — one warhead per silo —One anti-mine warhead and double-shot kill
    probabilities (DSPK — two warheads per silo) Two warheads for ground bursts of various US ICBM and SLBM warheads.
    Probability of hitting the target


    The probability of hitting the target using DSPK depending on the height of the blasting (HOB) for W87 / W88


    Physical vulnerability for Soviet-made nuclear warheads and storage facilities for nuclear weapons ammunition (CEP) 130 meters ground demolition W88 and W76.
    Source: NATO Target Data Inventory Handbook (1989)
    Severe heavy damage, Moderate-moderate

    As you can see, KVO is very important.
    Otherwise, they would not have changed the NS-20A control system to the new NS-50A control system.

    Inertial control system NS-50A with gyro-stabilized platform AIRS ("Advanced Inertial Reference Sphere")

    and the Meca-type BCVK LC5400 was developed by the Electronics Division of Northrop Corporation (which acquired Rockwell Autonetics). The BTsVK (developed by "Hewlett-Packard") provides flight control in the active phase of the trajectory, at the stage of disengagement of warheads, as well as during combat duty and in preparation for launch. The high quality of the ISU NS-50A instruments, error accounting and the use of new algorithms ensured high firing accuracy. The drift of the ISU NS-50A is less than 1.5 • 10-5 degrees per hour of operation. To create the required temperature regime, the flight control system is cooled by freon. The rocket electronics is based on radiation-resistant RAM-type semiconductor electronics.

    1. So I take the worst case. If the reception does not make sense to wet the silos, then with more time and even more so.
    2.30 minutes, with 5 minutes to start.
    3. All these mass destruction, only with political impotence and the complete surprise of the blow, when all means will stand, and not let go. Nuclear submarines easily shoot from the pier, strategists take off, and so on.
  27. Engineer
    Engineer 16 November 2016 08: 40
    0
    Minuteman III must be compared with Topol in its various reincarnations. And there will be many questions, which is better in terms of energy-mass characteristics. And the accuracy of the strikes of each warhead and no reason to argue.