Voenkor "Magician" about the situation in the DPR

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Blog chervonec_001 published another summary of the military officer "Mag" about the situation in the Donetsk Republic.





The summary states, in particular:

“Last week the shelling increased by several times compared with the previous period. APU several times used even MLRS "Grad".

07.11.16, monday.
07: 50 Several 120-mm mines fell west of Gorlovka. 13: 00 began positional battles and shelling in the area of ​​the YaBP, all types of weapons are used.
13: 00 began positional battles and mortar shelling north of Gorlovka in the Zaytsevo region.
15: 00 in the YaBP area increased shelling. According to our positions, several mortar and art batteries work at once.
16: 15 began a massive shelling of mines and shells of Yelenovka and the western suburbs of Dokuchaevsk.

Ukrainian military 1st tank Companies of the 36th Separate Marine Corps, while intoxicated, stole a tank from the location of the company. Then we went to the store in the village of Zarya (Volodarsky district, near Mariupol), while in the center of the village we hit a civilian car in which there were three civilians who died from their injuries on the spot.

17: 00 APU with 152-mm guns opened fire on the northern suburbs of Donetsk. Civilians sit in basements.
19: 00 Airport - Spartak - YaBP For six hours, heavy fighting and shelling continued, without any attempt to attack or break through. APU without a break, use mortars and artillery.
19: 00 artillery DNR began to give a powerful response at the same time on several sectors of the front.
21: 00 mortar and art duels have been going on for two hours now. The main hot sections of the front are Airport - Spartak - YaBP.
21: 20 on the approaches to the Petrovsky district of Donetsk began a positional battle and mortar attacks.
21: 20 north of Gorlovka also began positional combat and mortar fire.

Late in the evening, an attempt was made to break through the assault group of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Petrovsky district to the west of Donetsk. As a few weeks ago, this attempt also failed. The APU suffered casualties: 9 soldiers died, 15 injured, mostly shrapnel wounds and contusions. The fighting continues in this area of ​​the front, mortars and self-propelled guns of the Ukrainian Armed Forces cover the waste of the wounded.

Our intelligence recorded the transfer of militants of the Right Sector (banned in the Russian Federation)) to the village of Pravdovka (18 km from the front line) in the number of 150 heads, and also a unit of the National Guard in the village of Georgiyevka (8 km from the front) in the number of 300 heads. According to the DPR intelligence, the radicals drove people to the streets and, under the threat of execution, were forced to shout out nationalist slogans.

During the first day of the week, we were bombarded with 1072 (!) Times, of which: mines of caliber 82-mm and 120-mm, 392, projectiles of caliber 122-mm and 152-mm, 112, the rest of the shelling was carried out from grenade launchers, BMP.

8.11.16, Tuesday.
Hot week continues, until the morning shelling did not stop, although their intensity decreased.
03: 30 Several 120-mm mines flew through the Airport.
03: 40 repeated shelling of the Airport.
04: 00 again shelling the airport.
08: The 00 heavy artillery of the Ukrainian Armed Forces woke the residents of Makeyevka and Yasinovataya. The shelling was conducted on the ABM.
09: 00 short battle and shelling of the Airport - Spartacus.

The scandalous incident that caused the loss of a unit of military equipment and the death of servicemen, again occurred in the APU. In the afternoon, in one of the tank units of the Ukrainian army stationed in Avdiivka, shooting exercises were organized, which were conducted outside the city, in the field. At first, everything went according to plan. But suddenly there was an explosion on one of the tanks. When the smoke cleared, the bewildered Ukrainian tankers from other tanks saw that the gun was completely torn up on the fired combat vehicle. This could only mean one thing: the projectile exploded right in the barrel.
Of the three crew members, two died.

11: 10 came under attack from an OSCE mission in the area of ​​the village of October.
12: The 05 of the APU is bombarding our positions on the YaBP with 82-mm and 120-mm caliber mortars.
15: 00 battles and shelling on the YaBP intensified. Three hours of shelling with mines and shells go almost without a break.
16: 20 north of Gorlovka, in the Zaytsevo area, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are conducting chaotic and un aimed fire from BMP and machine guns. Simply burn the BC for a tick in the reports.
17: 00 battles and shelling continue along the airport-Spartak-YaBP front line.
17: 10 began the evening battles and mortar shelling west of Petrovsky district.
17: 10 APU began mortar and artillery shelling of the checkpoint "Elenovka". From Dokuchaevsk there are reports of artillery shells entering an apartment building. A woman 1949 of birth was hospitalized with multiple shrapnel wounds. Civilians and personnel were promptly evacuated from the shelling zone.
17: 35 between the positions of the NPT and the APU in the Zaytsevo area, positional battles have been going on for an hour and a half already, shooting, mortars and infantry fighting vehicles are being used.
18: The 15 bombardment of the Elenovka checkpoint has stopped, the APU fired more 50 mines and shells in the vicinity of the checkpoint.
19: 00 our gunners respond in the west and north of Donetsk.
19: 30 west of Gorlovka in the Broad Beam area, the battle began. First, the memory worked, then joined the AGS and mortars.
20: 00 along the entire front line from the south - Cominternovo and Sakhanka and to the north - Gorlovka and Zaitsevo, positional, mortar and artduel fights continue. Over the roofs of houses flies from all sides.
20: The 15 APU fired an incomplete package of missiles from the Grad MLRS in the western suburbs of Donetsk.
21: 00 battles west of Donetsk continue, shooting, mortars, grenade launchers are used.
22: 00 south of Donetsk in the Dokuchaevsk region, the battle and artduel continue.
22: The 00 APU began a heavy bombardment of the positions of the DPR in the Zaitsevo area.
22: 30 west of Gorlovka in the area of ​​Wide Beam is fighting using heavy artillery.

During the day we were shot at 665 times, of which: mines of 82-mm and 120-mm 308 times, 122-mm and 152-mm 139 times, 125-mm 6 times, the rest of the attacks were carried out from grenade launchers and vehicles.

09.11.16, Wednesday.
00: 50 - 01: 00 shelling 120-mm mine positions of the DPR at the Airport. 01: 20 - 01: 30 Airport shelling.
02: 50 - 03: 00 Airport shelling.

In the morning sniper pairs worked on both sides. It was mostly quiet.
11: 00 under shelling village October.
12: 45 under shelling AGS and BMP western suburbs of Dokuchaevsk.
It was also relatively quiet during the day.
17: 00 south of Donetsk - Elenovka and Dokuchaevsk, Airport, Spartak, YaBP, Gorlovka - positional battles everywhere and heavy mortar attacks.
17: The 50 APU began to move with infantry and equipment south-west of Gorlovka in the area of ​​the Red Partisan. Fighting ensued, while without mortars and artillery.
18: 30 BLAH APU flies over the western and northern districts of Donetsk. Air defense DNI works on them from the memory.
18: 47 over the Petrovsky district one UAV shot down.
19: 00 shelling of heavy artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine of the Petrovsky District, Kuibyshev District and the Airport - Spartak - YaBP. Several batteries are firing at once, but they started to work at the same time minute by minute.
20: 00 on the southern front of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shelling from SAU "Gvozdika" of the village of Sakhanka.
20: 31 is the next stage of the shelling of Dokuchaevsk.
23: 00 Airport - Spartak - YaBP Fights and shelling are still going on.

Our intelligence continues to record the strengthening of the position of the APU near the front line. In the area of ​​Starognatovka village, (4 km from the front), the location of the four 152-mm ACS Acacia was discovered. The Ukrainian army also transferred six mortars of caliber 120-mm to the area of ​​Novogrigorovka village (3 km from the front), four infantry fighting vehicles arrived in occupied Dzerzhinsk (in Ukraine called Toretskom), and nine more armored vehicles near Avdeevka village.

As a result of the shelling of the Ukrainian artillery, one DPR soldier was killed and one was wounded.

During the day we were shot at 891 times, of them: mines of 82-mm and 120-mm 278 times, 122-mm and 152-mm 148 times, the rest of the attacks were carried out from grenade launchers and equipment.

10.11.16, Thursday.
It was quiet in the morning and in the afternoon, perhaps because of the bad weather - rain and strong wind.
15: 00 Airport - Spartak - YaBP, despite the rain, positional battles and exchanges of mortar strikes are taking place.
17: 00 Petrovsky district under shelling mortar 120-mm.
17: 00 Airport under artillery shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
17: 10 - 17: 20 our artillery worked on the APU batteries north of Donetsk.
20: 30 is the next artillery attack by Ukrainian artillery on the positions of the DPR in the area of ​​the YaBP. 20: 35 Petrovsky district under shelling. Our answer for the batteries of the APU.

During the day we were shot at 334 times, of them: mines of caliber 82-mm and 120-mm 117 times, shells of 122-mm and 152-mm 85 times, the rest of the shelling was carried out from grenade launchers and equipment.

11.11.16, Friday.
In the morning and in the afternoon there were no battles, only short skirmishes and exchanges of mines a couple of pieces per hour.
16: 50 immediately on all parts of the front began heavy shelling of mortars and artillery. Usually, we are accustomed to, shelling begins with small, then mortars, and then after an hour and a half shells. And here it all began immediately and in very large quantities.
19: 05 in Nitrogen mikrn after shelling there is no light, water.
20: 00 attacks on the western and northern suburbs of Donetsk, Airport, Spartak, YaBP do not stop.
20: 35 UAV is spinning over the western suburb of Gorlovka, the air defense system of the DPR works on it from a charger. North Zaitsevo positional battle using BMP and mortars.
21: 20 near the village of Sands, north-west of Donetsk, is in close combat, machine guns, machine guns, FOG and. APU supports the tank.
22: 30 on the line Airport - Spartak - YaBP fall 152-mm shells, a lot.
22: 40 Petrovka under artillery fire.
22: 42 on the northern front under fire Uglegorsk, Debaltseve.
22: 50 our artillery is working on the batteries of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, firing at the western suburbs of Donetsk.
23: Our artillery 20 opened fire on the APU batteries firing at the northern suburbs of Donetsk.
23: The 24 of the Armed Forces of Ukraine used the RSZO "Grad" in the village of Yelenovka and Aleksandrovka in the south and west of Donetsk.
23: 30 our batteries responded on batteries MLRS APU.
23: 50 our batteries sent a few "courtesies" on the positions of the APU in the north of Donetsk. Judging by the explosions and fires on the positions of the MLRS APU, our RS were more accurate.

In the area of ​​the Yelenovka checkpoint, an 16-year-old youth was killed when she tried to get into the republic as a result of the shelling of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. He was hit by a mine.

During the day we were shot at 960 times, of which: mines of 82-mm and 120-mm 332 times, 122-mm and 152-mm 101 times shells, 122-mm 40 missiles, the rest of the attacks were carried out from grenade launchers and vehicles .

12.11.16, Saturday.
00: 00 battles and heavy shelling continue across the front, from the Sea of ​​Azov in the south to Horlivka in the north. Our answer a lot in all directions for several hours.
03: 00 battles and shelling continue, but with less intensity.
03: 40 APU again began heavy artillery shelling of the northern suburbs of Donetsk.
03: 40 in the west of Donetsk again shelling from the Ukrainian MLRS.
04: 20 from the side of Svetlodarsk shells are flying on our positions in the area Logvinovo, Uglegorsk and Debaltseve.
05: 00 shelling continues all along the front line, but less.

In the afternoon, the long-awaited silence finally arrived. There have been no such lengthy and powerful attacks since the liberation of the Airport in 2015.

16: 00 began evening shelling Airport - Spartak - YaBP - Yasinovataya - Gorlovka - Zaytsevo. APUs use AGS, LNG-9, mortars 82-mm and 120-mm, grenade launchers.
16: 50 began fighting on the southern front. The APU drove two infantry fighting vehicles and from two kilometers they are trying to work on our positions. Also working 120-mm mortars and to / to machine guns.
18: 15 APU on the southern front began to use the battery ACS "Acacia" 152-mm. Fights go from Sartana to Sakhanka. Civilians are watching and will not understand who is attacking anyone, as the shells fly from both sides.
19: 05 Petrovsky district is trying to storm the Ukrainian assault group. They are supported from AGS, mortars.
21: The 20 APUs process the outskirts of Dokuchaevsk on three sides with mines 82-mm and 120-mm.
21: 25 in the Petrovsky district after the shelling of a residential house.
21: 29 is flying over the Kalininsky district to the UAV UAV, previously it went to the Kiev district, where it was fired from our anti-aircraft guns.
21: 39 in the village of Yasnoe in the south of Donetsk from the landing, the Ukrainian LNG crew and tank are working, the street is full of fire. Also seen is moving the DRG in the gardens.
22: Fighting and shelling continue to the west and north of Donetsk. Our give otvetku of all weapons.

During the day, we were bombarded with 1089 (!) Times, of which: mines of 82-mm and 120-mm caliber 430 times, 122-mm and 152-mm caliber 145 times, 125-mm 10 tank shells, 122-jet projectiles 10 times, the rest of the shelling was carried out from grenade launchers and equipment.

13.11.16, Sunday.
14: 15 shelling our positions in the Kalinovka area from 82-mm and 120-mm mortars. 16: 00 mortar duel west of Dokuchaevsk.
17: 20 residents of Donetsk - Makeyevka - Yasinovatoy hear mortar battles in the areas Airport - Spartak - YaBP.
17: 30 in the Broad Beam area began a shooting battle.
19: 00 in the YaBP area tank duel.
20: 44 to the west and north of Gorlovka, positional battles continue. The APU and the DPR exchange AGS and mines. Also in the area APU uses BMP.
23: 00 is not calm on Gorlovka direction, but without artillery.

On the last day of the week, we were shot at 294 times, of which 6 - mines of caliber 82-mm and 120-mm - 135 times, shells of 122-mm and 152-mm - 57 times, the rest of the shelling was carried out from grenade launchers and BMP.

All patience and health! ".
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  1. +2
    15 November 2016 10: 34
    It would be better to squeeze Israel in Ukraine a little than in Egypt in the Sinai ... Insolent all the same, complete Oh wei is coming! Here’s what to do with them, peacefully destroyed methodically ...
    1. +6
      15 November 2016 10: 40
      Quote: STARPER
      Here’s what to do with them, peacefully destroyed methodically ...

      You need to hang them, as they did with Bandera during and after the Second World War !!!! Enough to endure this scum!
      1. +1
        15 November 2016 10: 42
        Quote: the most important
        Quote: STARPER
        Here’s what to do with them, peacefully destroyed methodically ...

        You need to hang them, as they did with Bandera during and after the Second World War !!!! Enough to endure this scum!

        While it’s impossible, their roof is powerful ... We are working on it, and peaceful people are dying every day! angry
        1. +4
          15 November 2016 10: 47
          Quote: STARPER
          Quote: the most important
          Quote: STARPER
          Here’s what to do with them, peacefully destroyed methodically ...
          You need to hang them, as they did with Bandera during and after the Second World War !!!! Enough to endure this scum!
          While it’s not possible, their roof is powerful ... We are working on it, and peaceful people die every day

          During the Second World War, their roof was even more powerful - Hitler. But they hung up and no roof saved. And the roof itself was poisoned with grief from poison. This is the only true path that fathers and grandfathers have already followed! One must be worthy of their memory!
      2. +8
        15 November 2016 10: 50
        Quote: the most important
        You need to hang them, as they did with Bandera during and after the Second World War !!!

        Hang, the time will come. How many years did the Nazis wait in World War II? And they waited the same. So these are waiting.
        1. +6
          15 November 2016 10: 59
          But this is in Kiev in the 1945th ...!

          Spared many, it is not strange in those days ...
          Now their grandchildren and great-grandchildren have come off now to the fullest ... It's a shame men, to horror ..!
    2. +11
      15 November 2016 10: 56
      Quote: STARPER
      Israel would have been better pressed in Ukraine a little than in Egypt in the Sinai

      Vitaly, in the end, leave Israel alone, he sits in your liver, but the Israelis do not destroy the civilians in the Donbass, but any Bandera and ragul rabble. Here they must be destroyed at the lanterns and their patrons in Kiev. All the more, now that I’ve gone such a move in the world, in connection with the election of Trump, hell knows what this rabble can decide on. Thanks Vladyka Sith for the report. hi
      1. +1
        15 November 2016 11: 21
        Quote: vovanpain
        Vitaly finally leave behind Israel, he sits in your liver, but not the Israelis destroy the civilians in the Donbass, but any Bandera and ragul scum. Here they must be destroyed at the lanterns and their patrons in Kiev.

        Yes, they surrendered to me ...! I just judge Russia in the recent past ... They dispersed half (they didn’t even take the money, just to leave) .. One was imprisoned and then released (crowing in Europe), the other hanged himself, out of love for Russia and lost profits .. Another on yachts dissects and plays football, well, etc.
        That's all, but breathing has become much easier in Russia!
        I have nothing against .. I respect the Holocaust, etc. etc! Oh, wei ...
        1. +7
          15 November 2016 11: 25
          Quote: STARPER
          Yes, they surrendered to me ...! Just for Russia in the recent past I judge ..

          Vitaly, let’s not discuss this topic, it’s better to write in a personal email.
          1. 0
            15 November 2016 11: 52
            Quote: vovanpain
            Quote: STARPER
            Yes, they surrendered to me ...! Just for Russia in the recent past I judge ..

            Vitaly, let’s not discuss this topic, it’s better to write in a personal email.

            I understand everything, I'm silent! hi
      2. 0
        15 November 2016 14: 39
        There, all and sundry are fighting against LDNR.
        And the Poles and Canadians are the same Turks, ILIG. Perhaps Israel is involved.
  2. +1
    15 November 2016 10: 39
    In Kiev, there’s another Maidan going. It is possible that against its background full-scale hostilities will resume.
    1. +3
      15 November 2016 10: 45
      Quote: Wiruz
      In Kiev, there’s another Maidan going. It is possible that against its background full-scale hostilities will resume.

      May there be no maidan ... They will not ride on an empty stomach! But the export of the latter from Ukraine is already beginning ... Sakashvilli wondered that the smell was fried, because the scum will go away ... There the tip has been on suitcases for a long time, so where will it explode, the question is?
      1. 0
        15 November 2016 11: 02
        Saakaka, if he was going somewhere, was not from Ukraine at all ... he just hopes to dig in there ...
  3. +4
    15 November 2016 10: 47
    it’s very unfortunate that these people live on the line, but where do they go. and the banged bitch on the pillars
    1. 0
      15 November 2016 10: 55
      Quote: 501Legion
      it’s very unfortunate that these people live on the line, but where do they go. and the banged bitch on the pillars

      It’s a pity that most bloody scum will have time to fall to Canada and Australia again ..
      But the main thing is that everything is fixed now, we will find horses of all stripes ...
    2. 0
      15 November 2016 14: 46
      why waste power on them, hang up! Bind and release between the trees to tear apart these freaks.
  4. +2
    15 November 2016 10: 53
    Kiev aviation, as I understand it, is not particularly active. The war is fought by artillery and small groups.
    Although not very much, they have an airplane. I saw a video of the Su-24 span recently, flown at low altitude. But as before, they no longer greyhound, as I understand it.
    1. +3
      15 November 2016 11: 18
      According to information from people close to Ukrainian military aviation, the Air Force is experiencing problems with the fleet and fuel, only the duty link is being refueled, no more than once a week machines are flown into the sky for 1-2 training, pilots lose their skills.
      1. +1
        15 November 2016 11: 39
        At the time of the Union, they operated the Air Armies in a single defense space. Now from their former power, they only have general positions, but here's how you said: "... 1-2 cars no more than once a week ..." Oh, humorists! The people also tolerate them in power, these Great Caesars from the toy store laughing
    2. +3
      15 November 2016 11: 31
      Quote: Thunderbolt
      Although not very much, they have an airplane. I saw a video of the Su-24 span recently, flown at low altitude. But as before, they no longer greyhound, as I understand it.

      for nothing. Saturation of air defense does not give the benefits of owning aviation. It is necessary to suppress air defense first, but the entire system (missiles, electronic warfare and attack aircraft) is not yet available. And it is not known whether.
      This is a war of artillery and RTZO and UAVs.
      Do not forget that there are not miners sitting there ..
      As for the article - information from one camp costs a little. I need information from both camps. For the second side also has information about the shelling of the myrrh and its death. And so the censorship of one side and the conduct of the information war leads to the incorrect formation of a view of events.
      1. +4
        15 November 2016 11: 52
        This is a war of artillery and RTZO and UAVs.


        This is not a war, this is a crime of Kiev authorities in front of their people. An analogy with Chechnya is inappropriate; Russians nevertheless fought there with the Chichs, simplifying it. One can imagine if the Ryazan region suddenly declared independence and drove the city to it and began to iron it. This is the most heinous crime of history. Hanging up for this is very humane, as many here suggest, tearing into flaps will be better. Miners there or non-miners, it doesn’t matter at all, it’s a shame that Russia behaves like a cat Leopold, in expectation that the mice will pass each other there. They don’t transmit, the state doesn’t twist power, citizens twist the state, and power can only help twist or interfere, or parasitize on it. If there is already war, then a guerrilla war is needed.
      2. +4
        15 November 2016 12: 14
        Quote: Retvizan
        As for the article - information from one camp costs a little. I need information from both camps. For the second side also has information about the shelling of the myrrh and its death. And so the censorship of one side and the conduct of the information war leads to incorrect formation of a view of events.
        You know, of course I sympathize with the civilian population, but I just can't manage to "be above the battle" when thoughts about your state prevail. I sometimes read your official press! And what conclusions should I draw from this? That the civilians suffer on both sides of the front I understand without newspapers. But I will still read this military commander every day. Even if I don’t like some of the LDNR’s moves, nevertheless my sympathies are entirely on the side of St. George's ribbon, not scarlet poppies. So I was brought up and so I I understand the threat to my country posed by your clumsy attempt to integrate into Europe. So like this request
        I still have to listen to the opinion of those who not so long ago completely thrashed with areal fire in Donetsk, used AVIATION !!!
  5. 0
    15 November 2016 11: 10
    Quote: STARPER
    Quote: Wiruz
    In Kiev, there’s another Maidan going. It is possible that against its background full-scale hostilities will resume.

    May there be no maidan ... They will not ride on an empty stomach! But the export of the latter from Ukraine is already beginning ... Sakashvilli wondered that the smell was fried, because the scum will go away ... There the tip has been on suitcases for a long time, so where will it explode, the question is?

    Yes, to you, to Russia, they will rush. You like to collect any offended rabble, instead of driving them back. Let them rake what they have done.
    1. +4
      15 November 2016 11: 21
      it’s hardly likely for us, except for the rope, nothing is waiting for them here
    2. +3
      15 November 2016 11: 22
      Thanks, warned, otherwise we broke our heads here. How is it? Will you run or help raking?
    3. 0
      15 November 2016 11: 24
      Quote: Sentry73
      Yes, to you, to Russia, they will rush. You like to collect all offended rabble, instead of driving them back

      Yes, we’ll attach it, there are a lot of territory and forests .. In the Arctic, airfields must be constantly cleared of snow .. We’ll all accept! soldier
      1. +2
        15 November 2016 11: 48
        Quote: STARPER
        Yes, we will attach, the territory and forests are many.


        Dear Vitaly, aren't you tired of yourself? Is it an honor to be a harpoon-type plug for any comment? "We will accept everyone ...", "we will hang everyone ...", "we will smash everyone ...", "we will defeat everyone ..." - is this your trend or simple incontinence?
        1. 0
          15 November 2016 11: 57
          Quote: Lelek
          Quote: STARPER
          Yes, we will attach, the territory and forests are many.


          Dear Vitaly, aren't you tired of yourself? Is it an honor to be a harpoon-type plug for any comment? "We will accept everyone ...", "we will hang everyone ...", "we will smash everyone ...", "we will defeat everyone ..." - is this your trend or simple incontinence?

          Come on ... It’s just emotions, nerves to hell ... I can’t whine, I tried several times, but I can’t calmly react to all of this .. I’m brought up not as you want! Forgive me ... soldier There are few of us already, be patient a little. Please!
    4. 0
      15 November 2016 11: 56
      You like to collect any offended rabble, instead of driving them back.


      The calculation was that Yanukovych would form a government in exile. But he refused, very sorry for the money in American banks. Do not drive the same back.
  6. +1
    15 November 2016 11: 26
    Well, in general, the war continues. I did not expect anything else.
  7. +2
    15 November 2016 12: 03
    (Military commander "Magician" about the situation in the DPR)

    Hello, Sergey.
    Did you add a cat? I understand that this is a regular soldier. Thanks for the review, but all of these posts went through before. But the fact that Zakharchenko turned to the mediator in the Minsk agreements (to Russia) with a cardinal question: "WHAT'S NEXT? PEOPLE'S GONE" is very important. Our kind of sluggish policy in relation to the Donetsk situation disappoints not only Novorossiysk but also very, very many in Russia. Unfortunately, we do not make decisions. Well, you, friends, stay there, God and we are with you. Good luck.
    1. 0
      15 November 2016 12: 36
      Quote: Lelek
      “WHAT'S FURTHER? PEOPLE ARE DOWN” - this is very important.

      I believe that it is necessary to carry out an operation to enforce peace. Like in Georgia. Better at the beginning, but better late than never.
      1. +2
        15 November 2016 13: 23
        Quote: Sergei Medvedev
        Sergey Medvedev


        That's the whole "thing" that we CANNOT. Our peacekeepers with a UN mandate were in South Ossetia, so we sent troops on legal grounds to protect our peacekeepers and force Georgia to end hostilities, but our peacekeepers with a mandate are not in / on the independent. Therefore, it is necessary blah-blah, at a time when the fascists derban Donetsk. Pancake.
      2. +2
        15 November 2016 13: 41
        Quote: Sergei Medvedev
        I believe that it is necessary to carry out an operation to enforce peace. Like in Georgia. Better at the beginning, but better late than never.

        What for? Who wants to fight - he is fighting, and who wants to negotiate - agrees. Independent has a difficult situation with control over territories, including over entire regions (this is judging by the news about Mariupol, Kherson, etc.). The question is about maintaining power. And it’s easier for them to give back part than to lose everything. Right now, apparently, there is a bidding between the rulers of Nezalezhnaya and LDNR, and, naturally, of the Russian Federation - about the amount of repayment for obtaining a number of territories. But. a feeling - that after waiting a bit - they will give for free. Why flog it?
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    2. 0
      15 November 2016 23: 38
      Greetings, the cat stayed with the owners.
  8. +7
    15 November 2016 14: 02
    And how to explain such a sharp increase in the number of shelling of the DNI? Really results of elections in the USA? I want to tell the regime - "Before death, you will not breathe."
    In the meantime ... So it fell to me to shelter a refugee from Donetsk (a relative of my wife) in Murmansk. She says that she no longer has the strength to live in such an environment - she decided to move to Russia.

    Quote: Sergei Medvedev
    I believe that it is necessary to carry out an operation to enforce peace. Like in Georgia.


    Maybe Putin and Trump will agree on something worthwhile in Ukraine? In the meantime, this is a sluggish hemorrhoid ...
    1. +1
      15 November 2016 14: 11
      I wrote everything in LJ Chervontsa. There is a more detailed article.
      http://chervonec-001.livejournal.com/1657228.html
    2. +1
      16 November 2016 10: 59
      Yes, Putin will not agree with Trump.
      My personal opinion: they did NOT see the flashing message that there was already talk in the OSCE that the LPR and the DPR should be considered as de facto states with built state. institutions? And before, Turkey proposed, finally, to recognize that ISIS is de facto .... and it is necessary to open its representative office, for a start, Turkey agrees with itself. What?
      So, apparently, in order for ISIS to "go away" forever, it must be finished so that no analogies with the LPNR arise. The sooner this happens, the more real and sooner will the recognition of the republics go. This should be ensured by Shoigu and K ...
      Referendum initiate. And, of course, the Queen of Economics! Zheleznyak also casually let slip that once the territory grows, the state (RF) has social obligations to the population. Here we are restoring the economy at a record pace, and we, and the republic.

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