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A robotic UAV detection complex is being developed in Russia

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In the interests of the Ministry of Defense, Zavod Electromash JSC is developing a robotic complex that can automatically detect unmanned aerial vehicles for various purposes, while the complex itself remains invisible in the radio range, according to News.


A robotic UAV detection complex is being developed in Russia


The NRS (“Non-Emitting Radar System”), developed by Electromash, is a small remote-controlled all-terrain vehicle with rubber tracks, on the body of which a receiving antenna of a passive radar is installed. With a length of less than 2 m and a width of less than 1,5 m, the weight of the tracked platform does not exceed a ton. NRLS can reach speeds up to 12 km / h, while remaining virtually silent thanks to the use of an electric motor. The complex is capable of detecting enemy drones at a distance of up to 5 km using airborne radar and up to 3 km using optical-electronic means, ”writes the newspaper referring to Anatoly Sokolov, general director of the plant.

“Development work is currently ongoing, which will continue until the middle of 2017. After the complex passes all the necessary internal tests, it will be delivered to the Ministry of Defense. The system continues to be refined, and we are also preparing a portable, landed version of the device, which will weigh no more than 30 kg, but will save all self-propelled performance characteristics, ”he said.

The key element of the complex is a passive radar that does not emit any signals and operates on the principle of a powerful antenna.

Military expert Alexei Leonkov: “Using conventional active radar stations to detect a miniature reconnaissance drone is like shooting a cannon at sparrows. Such radars can effectively detect large unmanned aerial vehicles such as the American MQ-1 Predator (the size of a modern attack aircraft), but miniature drones are often inconspicuous for them. A more effective means against such UAVs can be called passive-type radars, which detect UAVs regardless of their size, detecting the operator’s signals transmitted over the air. ”
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  1. OLD FART
    OLD FART 15 November 2016 09: 40
    0
    Well, again ... Well, Kulibiny, well, damn it.!
    1. Skeptic Self-Taught
      Skeptic Self-Taught 15 November 2016 09: 44
      +8
      Good day ... Ulyukaev was taken ... Something is being developed ...
      I wish I covered my entire camarilla from EdR, led by an iPhone player - I would have drunk in the trash with joy ...
      1. OLD FART
        OLD FART 15 November 2016 10: 00
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        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        Good day ... Ulyukaev was taken ... Something is being developed ...
        I wish I covered my entire camarilla from EdR, led by an iPhone player - I would have drunk in the trash with joy ...

        If such a wave goes across Russia, then it will be possible to sleep ..)))) Joke! drinks
        1. Skeptic Self-Taught
          Skeptic Self-Taught 15 November 2016 10: 03
          +3
          I did not sleep in crisis 98, in crisis 08, at the end of the world on 21.12.12/XNUMX/XNUMX - so I also don’t get drunk from landing enemies of the people.
          1. OLD FART
            OLD FART 15 November 2016 10: 11
            +1
            Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
            I did not sleep in crisis 98, in crisis 08, at the end of the world on 21.12.12/XNUMX/XNUMX - so I also don’t get drunk from landing enemies of the people.

            I also knew that Russia would rise from its knees ...! hi This is just the beginning!
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 15 November 2016 10: 52
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      Quote: STARPER
      Well, again ... Well, Kulibiny, well, damn it.!

      They give, but not that.
      What to discover? Shoot down on x ..
      1. Petr1
        Petr1 16 November 2016 09: 21
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        Quote: Mavrikiy
        Shoot down on x ..

        What word did you mean, aspic, cracker? For such an incomprehensible word I was banned for a week.
        So before knocking down a hamster you need to find it.
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 16 November 2016 18: 58
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          I said: to bring them down for the worst, and then we will discover. Oh, cracker.
  2. Lopatov
    Lopatov 15 November 2016 09: 45
    +4
    From office site (http://aoze.ru) Elektromash Plant JSC

    1. Aviagr
      Aviagr 15 November 2016 10: 07
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      Here is one of the payload options for my Trailers and the Hogs accompanying them - the all-terrain vehicle at Elektromash is too heavy and expensive. At the same time, in my Skolopendra, protection against such units is implemented - they do not emit e-magnetic radiation, and UAV-gunners will be higher and further than the means of destruction (mostly above their positions).
      So I have Tactics - PREVENTIVE given the development of both countermeasures and the development of equipment for reconnaissance and guidance of mosquito weapons - I give them a cheap trailer van and self-propelled mortar for protection.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 15 November 2016 10: 17
        +1
        Watch the video again. Carefully. The principle of operation of the detection complex is different from what A. Leonkov describes. For him, no problem is the lack of radiation from the board.
        By the way, how do you plan to implement this "absence"? Your drones won't have electronics?
        1. Aviagr
          Aviagr 15 November 2016 10: 34
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          That reflect spurious (not emitted) signal - you need a good EPR - my Scolopendras will not have it - hopethat the power of a dead battery and a miniature antenna of this all-terrain vehicle is enough to register mini-stealth missiles - it’s not worth it.
          And the fact that he will detect UAV-gunners outside the range of destruction with return fire (8-10km) will no longer console the equipment they destroyed, the MLRS positions and the artillery. And the second - re-read my articles: it says about UAV victims, which will be their death open air defense and radar positions for OTHER UAV - with missiles.
          No need to imagine the opponent gagged!
          I agree that the device is good, but not in 100% - there is no wunderwafer! He can detect the work of the Borov transmitter-gunner when he controls the Skolopendra - and you can destroy him. But in order to destroy it - you must DISCLOSE your position - and ANOTHER Hog with Scolopendras will already hit it! Meaning mosquito weapons - in its INFINITY, UNVENIENCE, INFINITY and others massive epithets! And by dividing the ground Gunner and the Transmitter on different Hogs (more precisely, for one Gunner with expensive optics, several Transmitters are needed - which will be detected and destroyed by similar devices, and of the Sobolyatniki type) - the survivability of the entire system increases! Moreover, the Gunner can be disguised at the front line and give commands to control the Scolopendra Hogs in the rear, hidden in the folds of the terrain, which will not allow them to be destroyed with DIRECT fire, but will require a MORE EXPENSIVE and ACCURATE weapon - this is called an asymmetric approach, when a mosquito "you need to spend a whole" closet "cutting down its legs ... laughing
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 15 November 2016 11: 25
            +1
            Quote: Aviagr
            And the fact that he will detect UAV-gunners outside the range of destruction with return fire (8-10km)

            E ..... SAAB complexes with laser-beam control, on the way - the American MML, capable of launching AI3 missiles, the Italian MBDA C-RAM missile, the Italian Draco anti-aircraft artillery complex ..., the German Smart Camp. For them, a range of 8-10 km is not a problem at all.

            Systems capable of hitting barrage of ammunition and even more. In addition to the above: Artillery - German Mantis, Italian Porcupine, American Centurion. Laser type German HEL, American ADAM. Missile type American EAPS
          2. Genry
            Genry 15 November 2016 11: 28
            +1
            Quote: Aviagr
            But in order to destroy it - you must DISCLOSE your position - and ANOTHER Hog with Scolopendras will already hit it!

            If your UAV is shot down by a small missile with an optical seeker (or cruise missile), you will never know the starting point of this missile. And the backlight for a passive radar can be produced by any moving object, encoded by a signal with the coordinates of the point and time of radiation.
            1. Inok10
              Inok10 15 November 2016 11: 49
              +2
              Quote: Aviagr
              The meaning of mosquito weapons is in its INFINITY, UNVENESSILITY, INFINITY, and other mass epithets!

              ... the fantasies of a member of the "Crazy Hands" circle ... People tell you what to do, and you persistently fly in the clouds ... not wanting to land on the sinful earth ... detection of communication channels and their suppression is no longer a problem, then electromagnetic radiation (secondary radiation of electronics and an electric motor) makes your funds for the means of RER easy prey, EPR here can be equal to zero ... physical means of destruction are kindly listed Lopatov ...
              Quote: Spade
              Systems capable of hitting barrage of ammunition and even more. In addition to the above: Artillery - German Mantis, Italian Porcupine, American Centurion. Laser type German HEL, American ADAM. Missile type American EAPS

              ... I'll add a 57 mm caliber (AU-220M "Baikal") with an effective range of 12 km. ... and even the old woman "Strela-10M3" is enough, the GOS SAM is three-channel, one of the photo guidance channels is contrasting ...
              Quote: Genry
              And the backlight for a passive radar can be produced by any moving object, encoded by a signal with the coordinates of the point and time of radiation.

              ... absolutely true ... and even just any transmitting source ... well, there will be plenty of them on the theater ...
              1. Aviagr
                Aviagr 15 November 2016 12: 29
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                Your dilettantism is based on the principle: "What about us ?!" -
                Quote: Inok10
                I will add a 57 mm caliber (AU-220M "Baikal") with an effective range of 12 km. ... and even the old woman "Strela-10M3" is enough, the GOS SAM is three-channel, one of the photo guidance channels is contrasting

                Yes, they will bring down a couple of UAVs (although Israel won could not) and the Skolopendre from THOUSAND, which will be immediately destroyed and starters 57mm shells, and air defense missiles - these are just their shots and radar performance that are much more noticeable than miniature Hogs and UAVs.
                Quote: Inok10
                detection of communication channels and their suppression is not a problem now, further electromagnetic radiation (secondary radiation of electronics and an electric motor) makes your funds for RER means an easy prey, EPR here can be equal to zero

                For the MILLION TIME I repeat: yes there is no connection FROM Skolopendra к UAV - WHICH and can extinguish your electronic warfare! NOT! And from the UAV (Borova) к Scolopendre with directional back antenna - you will not be able to interfere with ANY electronic warfare! And vice versa: the above "wick" Electromash - blotterbecause it is a RECEIVER, which means that the electronic warhead is extinguished! But any electronic warfare is destroyed by anti-radar missiles, so there’s no need to consider situations where we have alland the enemy has nothing (he is connected with a gag in his mouth - and then a month before Moscow runs in this form ..).
                Quote: Inok10
                If your UAV is shot down by a small missile with an optical seeker (or cruise missile), you will never know the starting point of this missile.

                This is my scolopendra... To shoot down hundreds of thousands of UAVs - HUNDREDS of thousands and missiles are needed - therefore, the one who has more CONTROLLED weapons - MOSCOW arms will win.
                Laser beater have not yet grown out of nursery pants, they are also clearly visible on the battlefield and cannot even defend themselves from a massive blow ...
                Quote: Inok10
                Systems capable of hitting barrage of ammunition and even more. In addition to the above: Artillery - German Mantis, Italian Porcupine, American Centurion.

                Systems capable of destroying THESE systems - dozens of times there will be more - with my mosquito weapons. Once again: do not sit naked on a hedgehog - you need to create an advantage when rockets, shells and lasers will not be enough to bring down ALL Skolopendr released to the enemy - that’s why there should be a lot of them, they’ll be cheap, they’ll be EVERYWHERE! Destroying launcher 57mm shells - we "freeze" their ENTIRE ammunition in warehouses, transports, arsenals, etc. Launcher missiles air defense / MLRS - their missiles!
                Destroying the generator for the laser - practically destroying the laser, destroying the radar - leaving USEFUL launcher rockets - and so on! - in your systems very poor vitality, as diversity, monstrosity (conspicuity), high cost (single quantity), high requirements for FUEL, SERVICE (recharge) and ROADS!
                My mosquito weapon is unified, cheap, multiple, can be towed in any way, it requires a small supply of e-energy (batteries) to control it.
                Similarly with UAVs and gliders ...
                And the winner will be the one who is the first to gain an advantage - and before that - an understanding of the superiority of mosquito weapons over SINGLE "launchers" of something!
                1. Genry
                  Genry 15 November 2016 12: 43
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                  Quote: Aviagr
                  the above "wick" of the Electromash is a blotter, because she is a RECEIVER, which means that electronic warfare is extinguished!

                  EW you can extinguish only what is known. A system with a passive mode is unknown to electronic warfare. Need coordinates, frequencies, signal levels. You can’t push on the areas with maximum power, the whole spectrum of frequencies - you will go broke.
                  1. Aviagr
                    Aviagr 15 November 2016 12: 51
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                    But if you do not highlight a small plastic target - that means you can't see it and can't knock it down - i.e. the result is IDENTICAL, that there is radiation from the "blotter" (although it may have time to fill up a couple of Scolopendras before it is destroyed), which is not - in this case, it is suitable for "outdated" UAV gunners: modern signals can also be noise-like and blurry by spectrum. And plus - hundreds of dummy UAVs with fluid-bubbling emission of EM radiation - just for unmasking the positions of the radar and anti-drone defense of the enemy. Everything is provided! laughing
                    1. Genry
                      Genry 15 November 2016 13: 13
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                      Quote: Aviagr
                      But if you don’t highlight a small-sized plastic target, then you don’t see it and you can’t bring it down

                      So at night you go outside and to see something you turn on the flashlight, but during the day the flashlight is no longer needed.
                      In the radio range is always a day!
                      The plastic of your UAV will look like a household glass toy - it is transparent to light, but we see it by distortion.
                      You live by old ideas about radar, it is clear that you do not have the appropriate education. There is only a primitive children's fantasy.
                      1. Aviagr
                        Aviagr 15 November 2016 13: 26
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                        Quote: Genry
                        The plastic of your UAV will look like a household glass toy - it is transparent to light, but we see it by distortion.
                        You live by old ideas about radar, it is clear that you do not have the appropriate education. There is only a primitive children's fantasy.

                        The air itself (mirages in the desert), clouds, and all living creatures can create air distortions.
                        But for the "illumination" of the UAV, much more power is needed, which is indicated in the presentation with the TV towers - but what kind of duren will shine the radar space in combat CONSTANTLY ?! You talk like a snickering Europoid - water flows from the tap. No, dear, not from the tap - but from the housing office, when they wanted - they turned on, they wanted - turned off. And to base the BATTLE device on the CAPRICES of the "ZhEK" would be a great insanity, which is why there are both Active and Optical channels! Passive - for the sake of a catchphrase: if everything is funky, we will see him! But more often than not ...
                        And then why the hell then Fu-35 and other stealth are developing: the power of sunlight - 1 kW per square meter! Where can you observe such RADIATION in space (TV towers / radar - does not count)? It’s the same as what you want to make out with your flashlight for 10km: are there mushrooms in the forest or not, and which ones? laughing
                        Your knowledge of radar plunges me into a gloom ..
      2. alean245
        alean245 15 November 2016 12: 59
        +1
        To reflect a spurious (not emitted) signal - you need a good EPR - my Scolopendras will not have it

        Why won't there be EPR? There will be no metal at all? And the antenna? And the battery? And what about the power supply chain? Engine? And if we are talking about passive location, using radio waves generated by numerous communication and location systems operating in a very wide frequency range, and irradiating the target from various directions, then there will certainly be a frequency range in which even a miniature UAV will "glare" (frequency the EPR dependence will enter the resonance region).
        1. Aviagr
          Aviagr 15 November 2016 13: 12
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          It will "flare", but if at this moment the focus of the antenna on this "trolley" is shifted from the given frequency and direction, it will not see this "flare". That is, you need a TOTAL of conditions when such flea market passive radar can detect UAVs on "spurious" signals:
          1. The power of these signals is large enough for highlight.
          2. Reflection of a UAV is sufficient to receive this signal and identification (not a bird, shell).
          3. The hindrance is favorable for the situation - otherwise we have EW apologists who beat all the Bosko, but they believe that our technique - EW is not valid.
          And a number of others (geographic / geophysical), so the likelihood of their simultaneous "meeting" is extremely low - why both the ACTIVE mode and the Optical mode were added - ie. if the mountain does not go to Magomed, he will have to legs to beat to the mountain ... wassat
          1. alean245
            alean245 15 November 2016 13: 46
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            It will "flare", but if at this moment the focus of the antenna on this "trolley" is shifted from the given frequency and direction, it will not see this "flare"

            It is logical to assume that for such a radar a broadband antenna is used, and the receiving signal is subjected to spectral analysis. So I see no reason for the receiver to not see the signal.
            1. The power of these signals d / b is large enough for backlight.

            In order for the power to be insufficient, the adversary must remove or disconnect all sources of radio waves nearby (including TV satellites and their own radio systems).
            2. Reflection of a UAV is sufficient to receive this signal and identification (not a bird, shell).

            We just discussed that there is a frequency range in which the EPR will be quite large.
            The interference situation is d / b favorable - because in our country the EW apologists beat all the Bosko, but they believe that EW does not work on our equipment.

            1. To crush a radio system, it must first be discovered.
            2 Why do you think that electronic warfare in this particular case will necessarily interfere with detection?
            And a number of others (geographic / geophysical), so the likelihood of their simultaneous "meeting" is extremely small

            It all depends on the width of the spectrum of the source of radio waves nearby. And by the way, there will be more than one frequency range in which the UAV "glares". There will be many frequencies, just as there can be many resonant frequencies in a resonator.
            why both ACTIVE mode and Optical mode were added - i.e. if the mountain does not go to Magomed - he will have to beat the legs himself to the mountain ...

            The desire for multispectrality and multichannel location systems is normal practice. Do not quite understand, where does the mountain and Magomed?
            1. Aviagr
              Aviagr 15 November 2016 13: 59
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              Quote: alean245
              broadband antenna, and the receiving signal is subjected to spectral analysis.

              Quote: alean245
              2 Why do you think that electronic warfare in this particular case will necessarily interfere with detection?

              You yourself are answering your own question: looking at a working welding, you cannot read a book. Sobolyatnik uses AFAR - i.e. he "looks through" every point of space for passive reflection, although he can highlight himself. Measurements of "standing" waves are common in car and apartment security systems - this is closer to this "blotter", because a standing wave can very easily be distorted by a powerful signal, more precisely, by its fluctuations - you will not understand: this maximum - a glare from a UAV or a node of an instantaneous standing wave - will blink like fireworks ...
              So AFAR and only AFAR ... And this is the cost - and as a result - the quantity ..
              The desire for multispectrality and multichannel location systems is normal practice. Do not quite understand, where does the mountain and Magomed?

              Above I have already given an example with water and housing office - you may not have enough "backlight" power ...
              1. alean245
                alean245 15 November 2016 17: 36
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                You yourself answer your question: looking at a working welding, you can’t read a book

                Well, if the welder noticed you with a book, he came up and started cooking in the immediate vicinity of your eyes, maybe. If in this context by the reader you mean a passive radar, then it is still necessary to detect it (and it, such an infection, does not emit). And if you don’t find it, then most likely it will be like this: the villain-welder, not noticing the reader and being far enough to dazzle, highlights the reader with flashes of the welding machine and helps her read in low light conditions.
                because a standing wave can very easily be distorted by a powerful signal, or rather, by its fluctuations - you won’t understand: this maximum - a glare from a UAV or a node of an instant standing wave - will blink like fireworks ...
                So AFAR and only AFAR ... And this is the cost - and as a result - the quantity ..

                On this, as you have deigned to say, "blotter", there are three ring antenna arrays as an antenna system. Most likely low-element PAR. They are quite simple, but, nevertheless, they have some possibilities of scanning (at least 360 degrees in azimuth) and direction finding of the signal source.
                Above I have already given an example with water and housing office - you may not have enough "backlight" power

                With simultaneously operating passive radar and radar? Seriously?
                1. Aviagr
                  Aviagr 16 November 2016 10: 44
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                  Quote: alean245
                  And if you do not find it, then most likely it will be like this: the villain-welder, not noticing the reader and being far enough to dazzle, illuminates the reader with flashes of the welding machine and helps her read in low light conditions.

                  Kindergarten ... No need to present your opponent as a FULL IDE! He knows very well that we have electronic warfare, air defense and such "blotters", so first he will launch electronic warfare drones (or my Scolopendra with jammers) Ahead - and then his rest of the devices ..
                  And the reception and processing of reflected signals (in passive mode) is carried out by ANY radar! ANY! This one blotters this function is deep minor - like a microscope - nailing. And you raised this fetish to the rank of an idol and rush for the second day with this dirty rag in the form of women's panties, you still can’t sniff ...
                  About physics you were told that damping um waves depends on the SQUARE of frequency and distance! SQUARE! So if I turn on my Wi-Fi at full power - already through 3-5km you will not catch anything by its reflection, although the glow of my point can determine. And the waves here are needed just short ones - decimetric due to the SMALL dimensions of the devices themselves and their glare elements - EPR and reflection miserable! That's just on Fu-35 this technology is debugged when illumination carries out AWACS behind either by spurious radiation - ALL have it, but this is not the BASIC mode!
                  But this blotter she can’t direct a missile or a gun at the target - she can only say: There is something here! Pay attention to this sector of the sky! - IN THE BEST CASE
                  But to induce - the antenna must be spaced or a connection of several such blottersbut if not by WIRE, they themselves become TARGET.
                  So, stop practicing verbiage based on 0,1% of the blotter functionality - she has more significant tasks that she solves more successfully ...
          2. Genry
            Genry 15 November 2016 14: 29
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            Sai does not allow already to answer your comment:
            Aviagr Today, 13:26 PM
            restriction of investment levels, apparently, therefore, I’ll fit in here.
            Quote: Aviagr
            The air itself (mirages in the desert), clouds, and all living creatures can create air distortions.

            Even old radars detected clouds, flocks of birds, UFOs wassat , and strange phenomena. All this has its own characteristic parameters.

            Quote: Aviagr
            But for the "illumination" of the UAV, much more power is needed, which is indicated in the presentation with the TV towers - but what kind of duren will shine the radar space in combat CONSTANTLY ?!

            If the Earth had such a vast amount of radio air, there would be no need to switch to expensive wire communication systems and high-speed data transmission. Try to get at least a small piece of the "most unnecessary" radio frequencies.

            Quote: Aviagr
            You talk like a snickering Europoid - water flows from the tap. No, dear, not from the tap - but from the housing office, when they wanted - they turned on, they wanted - turned off. And to base the BATTLE device on the CAPRICES of the "ZhEK" would be a great insanity, which is why there are both Active and Optical channels! Passive - for the sake of a catchphrase: if everything is funky, we will see him! But more often than not ...

            ABOUT! And you, by chance, are not working ZhEK? A plumber linguist? How many leaks have been fixed this year?

            Quote: Aviagr
            And then they’re ready to develop Fu-35 and other stealth: sun power - 1 kW per square meter! Where can you observe such RADIATION in space (TV towers / radar - does not count)? It’s the same as what you want to see with your flashlight for 10 km: are there mushrooms in the forest or not, and which ones? laughing
            Your knowledge of radar plunges me into a gloom ..

            1kW / m2 ??? Are you from the northern region? Do they still ride sledges there?
            F-35 is an erroneous concept, adopted by a handful of people exposed to power, but not sufficiently educated. They were offered - they bought.
            Modern monochromatic video matrixes in video cameras see a picture even on the darkest night.
            Antenna arrays (radar arrays) have a sensitivity limited only by thermal noise. Their area is incomparable with the area of ​​the human retina or video matrix. Plus, the ability and ability, on one common radar data array, to focus mathematical processing on a narrow sector of the review, i.e. just add a signal processor and take a closer look at the desired area. The higher the processing power, the sharper the picture. For example, in the T-band, you can read a book without opening it or look through the walls, like through glass. And at the airports you see everything under your clothes.
            1. Aviagr
              Aviagr 15 November 2016 15: 00
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              Quote: Genry
              Try to get at least a small piece of the "most unnecessary" radio frequencies.

              During the war? - Yes, they ALL will be mine .. wassat
              Or you, as the Americans decided to fight only with the barmales?
              So there will be no "backlighting", or it will be impulse, but not a single liguist-plumber will tell you - at what frequency the next impulse and in general when it will be - sit and wait ... wassat
              Quote: Genry
              Modern monochromatic video matrixes in video cameras see a picture even on the darkest night.

              - until the first bright spot - and after it - they don’t see anything - this is the property of any receiver ...
              Quote: Genry
              Antenna arrays (radar arrays) have a sensitivity limited only by thermal noise. Their area is incomparable with the area of ​​the human retina or video matrix.

              And why did the Chinese make their telescope with a diameter of 500m - they would sit on benches with seeds - and even consider the stars ... lol
              So you won’t get away from PHYSICS: if you want to make out dim and non-contrast objects - come on размер! As the matrices in cameras also demonstrate - software licking has already reached perfection - physics cannot be fooled. Otherwise, put this "flea" into the scrap, Buki, Torah - and shoot everything down ..
              Okay, the market went niochem - I know all your arguments, but You do not want see their limitations and RESISTANCE of the enemy: We will fight on its territory, and there are many cell towers! Hooray, comrades!
              Well, then - again from the Urals to drive his back...
              1. Genry
                Genry 15 November 2016 15: 50
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                Quote: Aviagr
                Quote: Genry
                Try to get at least a small piece of the "most unnecessary" radio frequencies.

                During the war? - Yes, they ALL will be mine ..

                Well, payment for electricity will come to your bank account to highlight the targets for the passive radar.

                Quote: Aviagr
                And why did the Chinese make their telescope with a diameter of 500m - they would sit on benches with seeds - and even consider the stars ...

                They are not you, and they know how to get a picture of distant objects at a distance of millions of light years. As long as the black holes do not interfere.

                Quote: Aviagr
                So you won’t get away from PHYSICS: if you want to make out dim and non-contrast objects - let's size! As the matrices in cameras also demonstrate - software licking has already reached perfection - you can’t deceive physics.

                Nobody cheats physics. They just add math to it. In the human head, it (mathematically complex algorithms) is not applied, but you judge by yourself. You are a typical idealist and live by the principle: "What I don't know is not and cannot be." This causes problems in outlook and logical constructions.

                Quote: Aviagr
                Otherwise, put this "flea" into the scrap, Buki, Torah - and shoot everything down ..

                You are confusing different "weight categories".
                It's one thing to shoot down a low-speed unprotected drone. Another is a heavy high-speed long-range object.
                There is no need to shoot sparrows from a cannon, but it is also impossible to shoot down an airplane from a slingshot. Although you probably can
                with a machine gun against the tank ...

                Quote: Aviagr
                I know all your arguments, but you don’t want to see their limitations and RESISTANCE of the enemy: We will fight on its territory, and there are many cell towers! Hooray, comrades!

                What a primitive reasoning. Regardless of the territory and on the side, during the hostilities there will be such garbage on the air, so many false transmissions that you will never know if there is useful information or just a jammer. By the way, in the ZAS connection there is a constant transmission of the synchronizing sequence.
  3. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 15 November 2016 10: 01
    +2
    A normal machine, as I understand it, information from such machines will be collected at a certain center, processed and issued commands to suppress control channels, or other actions. The main thing is not even to recount this swarm, then the REBs will do their job
  4. Ronino
    Ronino 15 November 2016 12: 38
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    If it detects signals from the operator, how can it detect a drone?
    1. Aviagr
      Aviagr 15 November 2016 12: 55
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      Optics - close. Or by the reflection of "parasitic" radiation, if the war is going on near the Ostankino TV tower or "super-living" radar, and your UAV is completely made of metal ...
      We have all the latest ads make up MANAGERS for receiving awards. Their real combat capabilities are very modest, which even Israel proved ...
  5. GTYCBJYTH2021
    GTYCBJYTH2021 15 November 2016 16: 33
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    No offense and empty criticism, in Russia a lot of things are being developed and invented, ostensibly .... Nano all sorts of other things .... It is necessary to do it, put up production - and ONLY THEN not bragging, tell ..... And so simple blasphemy ...... hi
  6. sa-ag
    sa-ag 16 November 2016 07: 41
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    Several comments appear immediately, the UAV can also be invisible in the radio range, the UAV can fly near the ground and the passive radar will not help here in view of the interference from terrain folds, buildings, trees