Russian State Duma is preparing to consider issuing Russian passports to residents of the DPR and LPR

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State Duma Deputy Sergei Shargunov, a member of the parliamentary committee on international relations, today reports that the State Duma will soon consider the issue of issuing passports for citizens of the Russian Federation to residents of Donetsk and Lugansk people's republics. According to the parliamentarian, this issue will be dealt with by a group called the “Group of Friends of Donbass”. The group will be represented by deputies from different parliamentary factions.

According to the channel Russia TodayInitially, there are three main areas of work: the strengthening of humanitarian assistance, the development of cultural activities and the provision of legal support. It is the latter direction, according to Shargunov, that may lead the Russian Foreign Ministry to consider the issue of the legal possibility of introducing willing residents of Donbass into the number of citizens of the Russian Federation.



Russian State Duma is preparing to consider issuing Russian passports to residents of the DPR and LPR


Sergey Shargunov:
If there was an opportunity, the residents of Donbass would long ago have applied for official accession to Russia, because for them our country is a mother, and Ukraine is a stepmother, and, indeed, thousands of militiamen are dying with the name of Russia on their lips. A referendum on separation in 2014 has already been held, maybe a referendum on accession will be held.


This initiative will require certain legislative changes, as some lawyers believe. However, Russia already has a certain experience in this direction: obtaining citizenship of the Russian Federation by residents of the Pridnestrovskaia Moldavskaia Respublika, Abkhazia and South Ossetia even before Moscow recognized the last two independent states.

In Ukraine, the initiative of the Russian deputy provoked a storm of indignation, which once again proves that the Ukrainian authorities and representatives of the Maidan public, not particularly interested in the fate of the inhabitants of Donbass, are closely watching news reports from Russia and legislative initiatives of the State Duma of the Russian Federation.
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  1. +26
    14 November 2016 13: 08
    so slowly and attach
    1. +7
      14 November 2016 13: 13
      Hehe ...
      Interesting ... Since politics is a bargain ... What did we offer in return? Well, I don’t believe that Trump took it and gave it all out of kindness sincerely ...
      1. +20
        14 November 2016 13: 14
        The good news was not expecting frankly
        1. +10
          14 November 2016 13: 18
          Putin's cunning plan gentlemen ... The introduction of troops was not required!
          Everything will be officially! Well, svidomye hold on ...
          Harness the lads ....
          Prepare moonshine for the meeting of the Valiant troops of Russia and the DPR!
          1. +8
            14 November 2016 13: 46
            More precisely, unharness the moonshine! In general, there is a double feeling, yes, this is all great. But! This initiative does not come from the "main faction", but from a certain group of deputies, let's see how the United Russia will react to this. This move should be at least two years ago.
            1. +4
              14 November 2016 14: 06
              .But! This initiative does not come from the "main faction", but from a certain group of deputies - let's see how the United Russia will react to this
              They gave a command where the initiative should come from, and from there it came. They will give a command on how to react. DG will react.
              This move should be at least two years ago.
              The time has come and made a move. Have a passport of the Russian Federation ... does he give a lot to the inhabitants of LDNR?
              1. +7
                14 November 2016 14: 13
                Quote: BecmepH
                The time has come and made a move. Have a passport of the Russian Federation ... does he give a lot to the inhabitants of LDNR?

                To the residents of South Ossetia this gave protection from Georgia.
                An attack on citizens of the Russian Federation entails an operation to enforce peace.
                Another thing is that this is just a deputy initiative ...
                1. 0
                  14 November 2016 16: 14
                  I think the initiative is a diplomatic move to test the reaction of the West, but in general this is quite feasible
        2. +4
          14 November 2016 13: 18
          It's time!
          1. +3
            14 November 2016 13: 20
            Quote: STARPER
            Everything will be officially! Well svidomye hold on ..

            Quote: Trevis
            It's time!

            the best news for Poroshenko.
            1. +11
              14 November 2016 13: 22
              Quote: atalef
              the best news for Poroshenko.

              Yeah, kirdyk his liver wink
            2. +5
              14 November 2016 13: 49
              Alexander, for a long time it was necessary to put a big bolt in the Minsk conspiracy. Initially, there was no sense in him and there will not be any civilians. Civilians would only die. They would collect their belongings and leave whole Donbass to their families ..
        3. +16
          14 November 2016 13: 21
          This should have been done yesterday, but it’s not too late today, having received a Russian passport, the inhabitants of Donbass, as citizens of Russia, will be under the protection of our state. Then the Bandera Kiev junta will have to think a hundred times before setting up a massacre in the Donbass.
          1. +1
            14 November 2016 13: 25
            Quote: Thought Giant
            Having received a Russian passport, the inhabitants of Donbass, as citizens of Russia, will be under the protection of our state.

            i.e.?
            all residents of Donbass, or just accepted citizenship?
            Quote: Thought Giant
            Then the Bandera Kiev junta will have to think a hundred times before setting up a massacre in the Donbass.

            They are happy to shove you 2 stub Lugansk and Donetsk region.
            1. +18
              14 November 2016 13: 27
              Quote: atalef
              They are happy to shove you 2 stub Lugansk and Donetsk region

              - and the toad will not strangle them? Right? wink
              - They have already "pushed aside" Crimea. With joy Yes
              1. +2
                14 November 2016 13: 31
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                Quote: atalef
                They are happy to shove you 2 stub Lugansk and Donetsk region

                - and the toad will not strangle them? Right? wink
                - They have already "pushed aside" Crimea. With joy Yes

                Crimea is a completely different conversation.
                And here is what the destroyed DPR and LPR are like - I know perfectly
                1. +8
                  14 November 2016 13: 35
                  Quote: atalef
                  what are the destroyed DNR and LC - I know perfectly

                  - that is, the toad is resting?
                  - why didn’t you give it up before, to fight, to panimish, to climb?
                  - and now this time - and give?

                  I don’t believe, fuck you request
                  1. +1
                    14 November 2016 13: 49
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Quote: atalef
                    what are the destroyed DNR and LC - I know perfectly

                    - that is, the toad is resting?
                    - why didn’t you give it up before, to fight, to panimish, to climb?
                    - and now this time - and give?

                    I don’t believe, fuck you request

                    Well done cat! Great answer... hi
                  2. +1
                    14 November 2016 13: 51
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    - that is, the toad is resting?

                    Do not combine Crimea and DLNR in one bottle
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    - why didn’t you give it up before, to fight, to panimish, to climb?

                    Well, the same question can be asked by the football team - what climbed? vseravno lost.
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    and now this time - and give?

                    they will not give officially, they will hang them on your neck, and then for another 200 years they will yell about the occupation.
                    Well of course - more sanctions - how many 2 years ago they shouted.
                    1. +9
                      14 November 2016 13: 58
                      Quote: atalef
                      they will not give officially, they will hang them on your neck ...

                      - Duc "on the neck", like, already hung?

                      Quote: atalef
                      and then another 200 years will be yelling about occupation

                      - and this is always welcome ...
                      - Georgia yells a lot, by the way? Is there any result from yelling?
                      - so it will be here.

                      IMHO, yes.
                      1. +1
                        14 November 2016 14: 16
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Duc "around the neck", like, have already hung?

                        there is some difference in rights. It’s one thing when you voluntarily help, and another thing when they come and say (new citizens) - take it out yes
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Georgia yells a lot, by the way? Is there any result from yelling?
                        -.

                        no sanctions? and again I repeat - do not mix stot.
                        Georgia and Ukraine - different situations, different times and, as you can see, the consequences are different.
                    2. +4
                      14 November 2016 14: 05
                      Quote: atalef
                      Well, of course - more sanctions -

                      Well, from Israel, of course, it is more visible, but in my opinion sanctions are good for the economy.
                      1. +1
                        14 November 2016 14: 11
                        Quote: ultra
                        but in my opinion sanctions are good for the economy

                        then the people from the election of trump-as on the Maidan jumps.
                      2. 0
                        15 November 2016 19: 59
                        Sanctions are good. I pray that they would never be removed!
                    3. +5
                      14 November 2016 15: 53
                      Quote: atalef
                      they will not give officially, they will hang them on your neck, and then for another 200 years they will yell about the occupation.
                      Well, of course - more sanctions - as they shouted many 2 years ago.

                      I have one feeling that Atalefa toad crushed abruptly, even than Poroshenko and Turchinov ..? laughing
                      1. 0
                        14 November 2016 17: 32
                        Quote: Observer 33
                        I have one feeling that Atalefa toad crushed abruptly, even than Poroshenko and Turchinov ..?



                        This is probably the mother-in-law from Ukraine to the computer got, while atalef gone laughing
                  3. 0
                    14 November 2016 14: 30
                    Quote: atalef
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Duc "around the neck", like, have already hung?

                    there is some difference in rights. It’s one thing when you voluntarily help, and another thing when they come and say (new citizens) - take it out yes
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Georgia yells a lot, by the way? Is there any result from yelling?
                    -.

                    no sanctions? and again I repeat - do not mix stot.
                    Georgia and Ukraine - different situations, different times and, as you can see, the consequences are different.

                    Well, how can an atalef communicate with our cat ..? Clearly he muffles you ......)))? He and me really "rod for my long tongue" ... But he clearly separates you!
                    1. 0
                      14 November 2016 14: 33
                      Quote: STARPER
                      Well, how atalef communicate with our cat ..?

                      Yes, it was normal and it was normal on Skype as well.
                      Quote: STARPER
                      But he clearly breeds you!

                      belay
                      1. 0
                        14 November 2016 14: 49
                        Quote: atalef
                        Quote: STARPER
                        Well, how atalef communicate with our cat ..?

                        Yes, it was normal and it was normal on Skype as well.
                        Quote: STARPER
                        But he clearly breeds you!

                        belay

                        So you talk on Skype there ..? So they did not agree ... drinks It happens!
                  4. 0
                    14 November 2016 14: 47
                    Well, what are the options ?! In Chechnya, along with Russians and others, only 1 million people lived and not all Chechens fought on the side of the separatists, and they had to fight there for more than 10 years. In the Donbass, 6 million people. How much will Ukraine have to fight there ?! Eternity?! Sooner or later, they will not leave soloing.
                2. +2
                  14 November 2016 14: 57
                  Quote: atalef
                  And here is what the destroyed DPR and LPR are like - I know perfectly
                  From newspapers and a box? Connoisseur!
                  1. +1
                    14 November 2016 14: 59
                    Quote: VadimSt
                    Quote: atalef
                    And here is what the destroyed DPR and LPR are like - I know perfectly
                    From newspapers and a box? Connoisseur!

                    right now there is my brother-in-law
                    1. +3
                      14 November 2016 15: 09
                      Quote: atalef
                      right now there is my brother-in-law

                      I don’t see the need to ask - in whose capacity. If brother-in-law knows more than we, citizens of DLNR, then he has the most objective information!
                3. +2
                  14 November 2016 15: 57
                  Quote: atalef
                  Crimea is a completely different conversation.

                  Yes? And who recently shouted that Crimea is "a suitcase without a handle"? Don't you remember? And I remember that Atalef is the name of this character.
                  1. 0
                    14 November 2016 19: 44
                    Quote: Observer 33
                    Yes? And who recently shouted that Crimea is "a suitcase without a handle"? Don't you remember? And I remember that Atalef is the name of this character.

                    I never called Crimea - a suitcase without a handle (or pliz quote to the studio) - about LDNR - and I don’t refuse words
                4. Erg
                  +1
                  14 November 2016 23: 31
                  Quote: atalef
                  And here is what the destroyed DPR and LPR are like - I know perfectly

                  This is "fuse", sir, if you have not yet penetrated.
                5. 0
                  14 November 2016 23: 38
                  LDNR is not damaged, there are local damages, but they are not large in comparison with the size of Lugansk. It must be admitted that even at the Yanyka industry they pretty much killed. But mines still give coal
            2. 0
              14 November 2016 16: 24
              Buddy atalef, watch out: Pan Piero will curse you and let the green devils go
          2. 0
            14 November 2016 14: 08
            Then the Bandera Kiev junta will have to think a hundred times
            Do you think they can think? You are naive! After all, they all ...
          3. +1
            14 November 2016 21: 28
            No, it’s just that the leadership of LDNR needs to collect a briefing and declare that in connection with the ongoing and constantly increasing shelling by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, it was decided to withdraw from the Minsk agreements, of such a date and proceed with the operation to force the Armed Forces to peace, by force, in the territory Lugansk and Donetsk regions.
      2. 0
        14 November 2016 13: 53
        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        Hehe ...
        Interesting ... Since politics is a bargain ... What did we offer in return? Well, I don’t believe that Trump took it and gave it all out of kindness sincerely ...

        Only concessions in Syria can be considered equivalent. Nothing more to offer. sad
      3. +1
        14 November 2016 14: 24
        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        Hehe ...
        Interesting ... Since politics is a bargain ... What did we offer in return? Well, I don’t believe that Trump took it and gave it all out of kindness sincerely ...

        And Lviv can be offered to the Poles, and Transcarpathia itself will find where to go belay
      4. +5
        14 November 2016 15: 48
        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        Well, I don’t believe that Trump took it and gave it all out of kindness sincerely ...


        Well, Misha-Gorby did just that. I took and gave everything. How could Donald be worse? After 30 years, school history textbooks will write: "After the collapse of the USSR, the United States continued the arms race, which laid an unbearable burden on its economy. By the mid-2010s, the US national debt was (how much is it now, too lazy to google). On the wave of economic decline in In 2016, Donald Trump was elected President of the United States, thus, for the first time in US history, a representative of big business took the highest public office. The political and economic reforms initiated by Trump were distinguished by an adventurous approach and quickly led the United States to economic collapse, the only way out of which was the division of the United States into six (or eight) independent federations ".
    2. +4
      14 November 2016 13: 24
      I think this is a stuffing. Why? The answer is on the surface.
      1. +2
        14 November 2016 13: 29
        Quote: juborg
        Answer on the surface

        - floats? How ... in the hole?
        - tell me the answer already ... it’s interesting what
        1. 0
          14 November 2016 16: 07
          You never got smarter. Resonance doesn't make you smarter. Do not drink, have you started smoking?
    3. +9
      14 November 2016 13: 27
      With all due respect to the LDNR militias,
      I don’t want people who lived in independent Ukraine for 25 years to become my compatriots!
      Crimea is a little different matter, there the influence of Ukraine was much less. And there are fewer people there.
      But 2 million former Ukrainians ... Sorry of course, but why do we need a portion of the 90s in a crisis.
      Let them be independent. It is better to join Transnistria - from the very beginning they fought for unity with Russia.
      1. +12
        14 November 2016 13: 31
        In general, they are Russians, and always have been.

        But it’s very good that you forgot to ask your opinion. If you don’t understand anything, don’t write.
        1. +2
          14 November 2016 13: 49
          Do not pay attention to the fool ... let him burst with redneck!
        2. +6
          14 November 2016 14: 14
          You all confuse citizenship with charity!
          So close to the Syrians pass out an eagle passport. How much they have suffered from the Americans.
          citizenship is primarily a duty. Willingness to defend the homeland, build the economy of the state on certain principles, built on certain values.
          I am absolutely confident in the inability of 2 million Donbass residents to correctly understand Russian statehood and values. This is neither good nor bad! This is a given. They are great. But they must be independent.
          Accepting several tens of thousands of Ossetians is not essential for Russia, but a couple of million people is too much.
          They need help! but what does citizenship have to do with it?
          1. 0
            14 November 2016 21: 32
            and who are you to be sure of this? do you live here or what? if not then sit and shut up and do not expose your stupidity to the public
            1. 0
              15 November 2016 08: 01
              Quote: TERL
              and who are you to be sure of this? do you live here or what? if not then sit and shut up and do not expose your stupidity to the public

              Your answer is a vivid example of what I'm talking about. Neither culture, nor understanding the opponent - you can slice the womb of the truth ... You can be a good person, but here communication, the desire for unity, the principles of building a society on the Ukrian - they are alien to the Russian. And this also manifests itself in LDNR. There are all wonderful people there - but others.
              Plus the news from LDNR is also a vivid confirmation of what I'm talking about.
              And also the behavior of Ukrainian pro-Russian experts on television.
        3. +6
          14 November 2016 14: 14
          But it’s very good that you forgot to ask your opinion. If you don’t understand anything, don’t write.
          It is impolite to shut up your mouth. Partly Urfin is right. I am even more on his side. LDNR almost simultaneously with the Crimea held a referendum. If you do not remember (or do not know), then everyone got what they voted for. They didn’t want independence for us. But how a roasted rooster pecked .... It may be cynical, but it is so.
          1. +3
            14 November 2016 16: 38
            You turned the facts. New Russia planned to go along the Crimean scenario.
      2. +6
        14 November 2016 13: 35
        I fundamentally disagree. He repeatedly visited the Donetsk and Lugansk regions. There are mostly Russian people. There are, however, Svidomized, well, so we have enough white-bellies ...
        But ... But this, your mother, is a signal. What does it have to be hard to miss ...
        By the way, a wonderful response to the joint resolution of the Polish Sejm and the Hohlorada on the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact ...
        Hehe ...
      3. +10
        14 November 2016 13: 59
        “I don’t want people who have lived in independent Ukraine for 25 years to become my compatriots!” And for two years we have suffered THAT from Ukraine! You don’t want it, Urfin? You don’t want to accept mothers and fathers who have lost their children as citizens of your country .. Children who have lost their fathers and mothers .. Yes, a lot will have to be restored .. But I don't want the President to shake Poroshenko's hand or help those who then spit in the back will.
        1. +5
          14 November 2016 14: 01
          I want to add .. I'm not sure that this initiative will pass. There’s just an undercover mouse fuss in this Duma. But still, wait and see.
      4. 0
        14 November 2016 16: 57
        The accession of Donbass has been resolved, a transitional period is underway, perhaps it will last another 10 YEARS, I THINK SO.
    4. +5
      14 November 2016 13: 37
      People survive there, but do not live ... whatever you like, we threw them ... our task is to adopt a family and not as Transnistria, but as a full-fledged subject of the federation, then there will be positive changes!
      Germans gathered humanitarian help DNR
      1. +1
        14 November 2016 21: 35
        Well, about "surviving" you turned it down, of course) for 2,5 years they began to live no worse than in dill, primarily due to the low communal apartment. well, yes, yes, I agree with you
    5. +1
      14 November 2016 13: 55
      Let's add, and what shines for THEM? Russian oligarchy, perhaps ..... Prices for "communal apartments", Russian pensions ...... Although, just hearing, it is true, there are more Russian pensions in Crimea ..... But it is warm there, boots and down jackets are not it is necessary ...... Vegetables grow almost all year round ......... Yes, Crimea as a base, a stronghold of the fleet ....... no more ...
      1. +5
        14 November 2016 14: 04
        And what do they see in Ukraine? Please describe?
      2. +5
        14 November 2016 14: 06
        Andrei? Have you been to Crimea? There are a lot of things besides the stronghold ..
        1. +1
          14 November 2016 14: 51
          But what is needed in Crimea, Russia, if not a stronghold, base of the Navy?
          1. +4
            14 November 2016 15: 01
            You did not answer my question, What awaits them in (in) Ukraine? .. Do not fly a couple of times to Vietnam and Thailand, fly to Crimea, maybe you will understand ..
        2. 0
          14 November 2016 14: 56
          I haven’t been to Crimea .... It’s closer to me, and much cheaper to fly to Thailand, fly to Vietnam than get to Crimea ..... These are the things, dear man ......
    6. +1
      14 November 2016 17: 55
      do not harbor illusions. There will be no joining. Falling shells in the Donbass are one thing and when this Donbass is already part of Russia it is already aggression .... and this is war. It is also Ossetia. They will be supported by us but purely within their borders. Joining is not necessary. Enough integration.
  2. +4
    14 November 2016 13: 09
    We are obliged to help those Russians who ask Russia for help !!!
  3. +8
    14 November 2016 13: 10
    at last. it had to be done earlier, much earlier. Well, at least for now.
  4. +6
    14 November 2016 13: 13
    Yes, not only the DNI and LC, but the whole outskirts drinks
    1. +1
      14 November 2016 13: 35
      Quote: Petr1
      Yes, not only the DNI and LC, but the whole outskirts

      What for? what
      1. +2
        14 November 2016 14: 30
        Quote: Ribwort
        What for? what

        What do you mean why!!! for the subsequent return of the Russian lands and the Russian people back to the Orthodox empire. Or is it better to feed the sick Nazis?
        1. +1
          14 November 2016 14: 50
          Quote: Petr1
          Or is it better to feed the Nazis?

          This is exactly what I do not want. Saying that you want to annex to Russia not only the DPR and LPR, but also the rest of Ukraine, explain what you intend to do with the "sick fascists" living in these territories? Deportation? Genocide?
          If not, then you are offered to feed them, not me.
          1. +2
            14 November 2016 14: 54
            Quote: Ribwort
            what do you intend to do with those living in these territories

            According to the law of the Russian Federation, how else wink
            1. 0
              14 November 2016 14: 57
              Quote: Petr1
              According to the law of the Russian Federation

              There they must be fed too ... No.
        2. 0
          14 November 2016 17: 57
          Well, nafig your imperial manners. Will you feed the pan-heads? will you endure all this schizoid mass? Onizh will again call Russia a prison of people. Not .... You better not write such comments; don't spoil the mood of people in the evening.
          1. 0
            14 November 2016 19: 06
            Quote: Kosmotoga
            Not not .... you better not write such comments do not spoil the mood of people in the evening.

            Forgive me for not saying that a troll like you does not like my writing.
  5. +6
    14 November 2016 13: 13
    Now questionnaires poured out from Kiev en masse, even the Ukrainian parliament threatening Russia with new sanctions will demand Russian citizenship laughing
    1. +2
      14 November 2016 13: 37
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      Now questionnaires poured out from Kiev en masse, even the Ukrainian parliament threatening Russia with new sanctions will demand Russian citizenship

      I think those who openly deal in the Russian Federation, creaking their hearts from citizenship will refuse wink And so any Russian (Ukrainian, Belorussian, Serb, etc.) must have a priority right to receive citizenship in the Russian Federation. IMHO. Of course you need filters, for example, for crime.
      1. 0
        14 November 2016 18: 54
        Quote: volot-voin
        And so any Russian (Ukrainian, Belorussian, Serb, etc.) must have a priority right to receive citizenship in the Russian Federation. IMHO. Of course you need filters, for example, for crime.

        Do you read anything sometimes? Such a program has been operating since 2006: "a program to assist the resettlement of compatriots living abroad." For 10 years, about 460 thousand have moved. person. Moreover, most of all in 2014-2015. - from Donbass. In general, those who wanted to have already left.
  6. +7
    14 November 2016 13: 14
    It's time to do it. Any Russian must have priority rights to citizenship in the Russian Federation.
    1. 0
      14 November 2016 13: 22
      Quote: volot-voin
      It's time to do it. Any Russian must have priority rights to citizenship in the Russian Federation

      and it does not matter the place of residence on the minimum wage and pension.
      I understand correctly ?
      wink
      1. 0
        14 November 2016 13: 30
        Quote: atalef
        I understand correctly ?

        This is a good question. Well done. They inserted their agora, although it has not existed in cash since 1992.
        1. 0
          14 November 2016 13: 40
          Quote: V.ic
          Quote: atalef
          I understand correctly ?

          This is a good question. Well done. They inserted their agora, although it has not existed in cash since 1992.

          but I didn’t wait for an answer.
          I wonder if the Russians are ready to pay pensions, social packages, etc. etc. - to residents of non-Russian territories (no one is going to join them, do I understand correctly?)
          But as citizens of Russia on payments (at least pensions) - they will have every right.
          Moving to Russia, children for free education and health care.
          At the same time control their migration and where exactly do they live, who will be? Zakharchenko with a carpenter? wink
          1. +7
            14 November 2016 14: 14
            Quote: atalef
            But as citizens of Russia on payments (at least pensions) - they will have every right.

            It will be much more beneficial for our state than paying pensions to some Israeli Jews.
            Quote: atalef
            Moving to Russia, children for free education and health care.

            Let them come to us better than emigrants from Central Asia.
            Quote: atalef
            But what are the destroyed DNI and LC

            But aren't these "gentlemen" these same DNR and LNR and are destroying them?

            And the Groysmans, "ruined" by various Poroshenko (Waltzmans), and so on, the DPR is being revived, despite the fact that you want to see it in ruins.
            Republic in numbers: restoration work in the DPR

            Republic in numbers: Ministry of Education and Science
            1. 0
              14 November 2016 14: 26
              Quote: quilted jacket
              It will be much more beneficial for our state than paying pensions to some Israeli Jews.

              good luck
              Quote: quilted jacket
              Let them come to us better than emigrants from Central Asia.

              And they won’t move, why? You can live in Ukraine 9 where prices are much lower) - and receive a pension from Russia, well, send children to Russia to study
              Quote: quilted jacket
              And the Groysmans, "ruined" by various Poroshenko (Waltzmans), and so on, the DPR is being revived, despite the fact that you want to see it in ruins.

              believe laughing
          2. 0
            14 November 2016 18: 50
            Quote: atalef
            but I didn’t wait for an answer.

            Your brother usually doesn't need it. You are the "chosen one." Read the Torah, attend synagogue and listen to the rabbi,
      2. +1
        14 November 2016 14: 12
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: volot-voin
        It's time to do it. Any Russian must have priority rights to citizenship in the Russian Federation

        and it does not matter the place of residence on the minimum wage and pension.
        I understand correctly ?
        wink

        ehh it would be so simple with the Russians in Ukraine (Ukrainians who did not receive a Russian passport, namely Russians from birth), they have quite a few problems, but they bravely endure them (relatives Ukrainians naturally help)
      3. +1
        14 November 2016 17: 31
        Quote: atalef
        and does not matter the place of residence on the minimum wage and pension

        It would be desirable to accept the whole of Ukraine in the Russian Federation, and to give Russian citizenship is only a step towards this. Do not forget that citizenship of the Russian Federation will be accepted not only by pensioners, but also by the able-bodied population, which will completely balance the losses of the pension fund with tax revenue. And I’m afraid that we are not experiencing an excess of population.
  7. +1
    14 November 2016 13: 22
    Now in Ukraine farts are torn, spewing piles of bricks tongue
    News fire)))))))) fellow
    I will drink in the evening for this)))
    1. 0
      14 November 2016 13: 29
      Quote: salat
      Now in Ukraine farts are torn, spewing piles of bricks tongue
      News fire)))))))) fellow
      ))

      no news - nothing will happen.
      They won’t even submit bills to the State Duma.
      1. 0
        14 November 2016 13: 51
        It is possible without the law. According to appeals of citizens, LDNR will be considered according to ministerial instructions.
        1. +1
          14 November 2016 14: 18
          Quote: KVashentcev
          It is possible without the law. According to appeals of citizens, LDNR will be considered according to ministerial instructions.

          of course it is possible.
          What's the point? All this will become known.
      2. +4
        14 November 2016 13: 53
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: salat
        Now in Ukraine farts are torn, spewing piles of bricks tongue
        News fire)))))))) fellow
        ))

        no news - nothing will happen.
        They won’t even submit bills to the State Duma.

        Well, let's see Atalef ... If you appeared in such a topic, then we are all doing the right thing!
        It’s time to clean Ukraine .. take guests of Atalef!
        1. +1
          14 November 2016 14: 13
          Quote: STARPER
          It’s time to clean Ukraine .. take guests of Atalef!

          you can’t clean your partners (we don’t let your own). And the headquarters of the Partners in Moscow (branches in Brussels and Washington)
        2. +1
          14 November 2016 14: 19
          Quote: STARPER
          Well, let's see Atalef ... If you appeared in such a topic, then we are all doing the right thing!

          Vitaly, I still embroider a cross.
        3. +1
          14 November 2016 14: 25
          Quote: STARPER
          welcome guests to Atalef!

          So Ukraine is already being cleaned up a bit - Jews are fleeing to Israel in droves lol
          Thousands of Ukrainians are trying to become refugees in Israel
          Since the beginning of the 2016 year, 5377 new applications for refugee status in Israel have been submitted by Ukrainian citizens.
          http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2016/10/27/
          tisyachi-ukraincev-stat-bezhencami-v-izraile /
          1. 0
            14 November 2016 19: 52
            Quote: quilted jacket
            So Ukraine is already being cleaned up a bit - Jews are fleeing to Israel in droves
            Thousands of Ukrainians are trying to become refugees in Israel
            Since the beginning of the 2016 year, 5377 new applications for refugee status in Israel have been submitted by Ukrainian citizens.

            A padded jacket - a Jew in Israel does not need to file a status application - he automatically (like his family members) crosses the border and receives citizenship at the very first hour.
            This is the brothers Slavs fleeing. (I'm not in vain writing the Slavs of Russian mk among them no less than Ukrainians) by the way, why wouldn’t they run to Russia (well, Russian) - we have hummus or something smeared here belay
            Probably want to become prisoners of Zion laughing
  8. +2
    14 November 2016 13: 28
    It is high time. Stop looking back at the West. We have our own interests, and our own vision of the world.
  9. +1
    14 November 2016 13: 29
    If only not another promise
  10. +1
    14 November 2016 13: 31
    In this matter you need to be consistent. Firstly, an act of recognition of the republics, secondly, conclude agreements with them (political, economic and, possibly, mutual assistance), and then decide on passports. Actually, it had to be done the day before yesterday. IMHO.

  11. +1
    14 November 2016 13: 33
    This, of course, is good, but not enough. It would be necessary to embrace other areas with such an initiative, and then save their citizens from arbitrariness and genocide.
  12. +2
    14 November 2016 13: 34
    The long-suffering Donbass has been waiting for this decision for 3 years.
    Did the overseas "partners" hold back? Too many coincidences - the new Trump, for example.
  13. +1
    14 November 2016 13: 52
    It's time. The republics, as an outpost, protect us from Bandera's shortcomings. And we all pull and think ...
  14. +1
    14 November 2016 13: 54
    Very interesting information!
  15. +2
    14 November 2016 14: 03
    Ukraine has identified residents of the DPR and LPR and put it into a non-law, so it is necessary for a strong country to protect paradise from this.
  16. +4
    14 November 2016 14: 20
    Sergey Shargunov is great. I have been watching him for a long time, since the days when he conducted literary reviews at the "Mayak". He considers Gorky a great writer, which means that he, Shargunov, knows and understands a lot about Russia. There are few such people now. Good luck to him and his colleagues.
  17. +2
    14 November 2016 14: 21
    So far, this is only an initiative. How it will go is not yet known. Moreover, the Republicans have been "fed" with promises for a long time.
    And this will not mean "acceptance into its membership." People will receive a passport - they can go to their historical homeland (RF) without any problems. And the territory will be Ukraine. Moreover, Moscow once again recognized the borders of Ukraine (international means with the Regions) and adherence to Minsk.
    The passport of the Russian Federation for residents of areas is like for our visa-free regime ... So far, only promises. here are the ai. and promises again.
    As for common actions, Moscow will not annex the Regions (there is simply no money, I don’t want sanctions, why, and in general I want to hang it on Ukraine, and that on the Russian Federation). Economically, now there is barely enough for feeding. Moreover, it is an instrument of "geopolitical chess"
    If we allow, agree to the Duma, then residents will be able to get a passport and travel freely to the Russian Federation. This will not be a guarantee of recognition of the Regions (some Swiss tried)
    So the bloody performance of the Regions continues. If you say that then the Russian Federation will harness itself for its compatriots by passport - that is, an example of Transnistria in the blockade, there are 200 victims of Qatari sabotage, there are a bunch of Russians in Ukraine - they didn’t particularly harness it .. They harness it when it is connected with gas, pipes and oil. ..
  18. 0
    14 November 2016 14: 27
    Ukrainians (all except the sanctioned Russian list) - urgently register in Donetsk and Lugansk.
    1. 0
      14 November 2016 18: 59
      Why do we need this?
      1. 0
        15 November 2016 09: 34
        From an economic point of view, the absolute question ...
    2. 0
      14 November 2016 23: 56
      Quote: Serzh_R
      Ukrainians (all except the sanctioned Russian list) - urgently register in Donetsk and Lugansk.

      Odessa registration always suited me. What is in the Russian Federation, what is in Ukraine, what is in Belarus.
      What is better Donetsk / Lugansk?
      1. 0
        15 November 2016 09: 37
        See the title of the article.
  19. +1
    14 November 2016 14: 28
    atalef,
    Quote: atalef
    then the people from the election of trump-as on the Maidan

    - honestly - I do not see nirazu "jumping as on the Maidan" people request
    - and what people "jump" in places on VO is so full of ... unbalanced laughing
    - the horse Tingent is so special, panimaish ... the horse Spyrology at a gallop laughing
    1. 0
      14 November 2016 14: 38
      Quote: Cat Man Null
      honestly - I don't see nirazu "jumping like on the Maidan" people

      Rum, you probably don’t watch TV.
      Yesterday, I got really fucked up - one State Duma deputy suggested giving the trump armed guard (from the Russian Federation, of course).
      The second9 is no longer a deputy) called him a racket
      1. +1
        14 November 2016 15: 48
        Quote: atalef
        Rum, you probably don’t watch TV.

        - for sure. Seven years already laughing

        Quote: atalef
        one deputy of the State Duma proposed to provide the armed guard with trump (from the Russian Federation, of course)

        - hollows, hollows and hollows ... woodpeckers, what to say request
        - what is that, and there is enough security there ... and not only armed. The most important "guard" is those ... um ... the forces that pulled this Trump up fellow

        Quote: atalef
        The second9 is no longer a deputy) called him a racket

        - Well, panopticon ... so what?
        - to make them a nefig there, in the State Duma and nearby, raging from boredom ...
        - and for the majority of its people in parallel - Trump, not Trump ... basically - everyone is busy with their problems, no Maidan ...

        Voooot ...
      2. +1
        14 November 2016 16: 39
        Atalef, You know that the deputy mandate is not a guarantee that the owner is sane.
        Maybe he’s from a hangover or stoned (you also smoke weed)
      3. 0
        14 November 2016 23: 58
        Quote: atalef
        probably do not watch TV.

        I didn’t watch TV (I’ve been trying for a long time not to watch at all except football and music from Discovery)
        But in the course - Trumpomania ... You can release a game on VKontakte, grow it up and appoint your Trump president.
  20. 0
    14 November 2016 14: 35
    atalef,
    And what is the relationship between sanctions and the election of Trump?
    1. 0
      14 November 2016 14: 40
      Quote: ultra
      atalef,
      And what is the relationship between sanctions and the election of Trump?

      No
  21. 0
    14 November 2016 14: 40
    A referendum on secession has already been held in 2014, maybe a referendum on accession will be held.

    a very subtle hint, however))
  22. +1
    14 November 2016 14: 45
    It's time to join the Donbass, fought for two years and is good. Now Trump is not up to Ukraine, raking shit in his country would be enough time for the presidential term
    1. 0
      14 November 2016 21: 33
      Trump is not the president yet - all of a sudden, in the second round, the electors will vote for Clinton.
  23. +2
    14 November 2016 14: 47
    Quote: atalef
    then the people from the election of trump-as on the Maidan jumps.

    he jumps not because he is specifically glad to Trump, but because it is not Clinton! wink
    1. 0
      15 November 2016 00: 00
      Quote: gm9019
      Quote: atalef
      then the people from the election of trump-as on the Maidan jumps.

      he jumps not because he is specifically glad to Trump, but because it is not Clinton! wink

      blessed is he who believes. In general, let's see things. Suddenly howl later - Clinton would be better! So the first lady would be a man ...
  24. +2
    14 November 2016 14: 54
    Quote: atalef
    And here is what the destroyed DPR and LPR are like - I know perfectly
    From newspapers and a box? Connoisseur!
    1. +2
      14 November 2016 15: 04
      Quote: VadimSt
      Quote: atalef
      And here is what the destroyed DPR and LPR are like - I know perfectly
      From newspapers and a box? Connoisseur!

      Well, why it may well know, after all, under the command of the Nazi Yarosh in the Right Sector, a Jewish unit is fighting there, and there are instructors from Israel among the Poroshenko (Valtsman) army, and atalef among these Jews may well have relatives.
      Jewish company of the Ukrainian volunteer army of the Nazi Yarosh
  25. +2
    14 November 2016 15: 07
    Quote: BecmepH
    LDNR almost simultaneously with the Crimea held a referendum. If you do not remember (or do not know), then everyone got what they voted for. They didn’t want independence for us.

    And this is exactly what I remember now. I am looking for results and can not find.
    It was, I remember, about some "loyalty index" (or something like that?) To Russia. So Donbass had it, I remember exactly, somewhere around 30-40% of everything. In Crimea - under 80%. Hence the results.
    1. 0
      15 November 2016 00: 02
      Quote: gm9019
      Quote: BecmepH
      LDNR almost simultaneously with the Crimea held a referendum. If you do not remember (or do not know), then everyone got what they voted for. They didn’t want independence for us.

      And this is exactly what I remember now. I am looking for results and can not find.
      It was, I remember, about some "loyalty index" (or something like that?) To Russia. So Donbass had it, I remember exactly, somewhere around 30-40% of everything. In Crimea - under 80%. Hence the results.

      no more election information? Wow ..
      The loyalty index rises sharply, if you have armed forces behind you (albeit at first unofficially, but with a specific purpose known to you). In general, it doesn’t mean anything, if you decide from above ....
  26. +1
    14 November 2016 15: 50
    atalef,
    Quote: atalef
    then the people from the election of trump-as on the Maidan

    And why do you people so jumping from the election of Trump - is he a patriot of Israel?)))
  27. 0
    14 November 2016 16: 29
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    Quote: atalef
    what are the destroyed DNR and LC - I know perfectly

    - that is, the toad is resting?
    - why didn’t you give it up before, to fight, to panimish, to climb?
    - and now this time - and give?

    I don’t believe, fuck you request

    Do the right thing, do not believe
  28. 0
    14 November 2016 20: 06
    Eh! ... Yes, quickly! WOULD ... We living in the DPR have been waiting for this for a long time! It would be faster to return home! V.V - God help you !!!
    1. 0
      15 November 2016 09: 49
      The process goes to the autonomy of the DPR and LPR with the subsequent accession to Russia - this is the most bloodless option.
      To join the territory of another state is not democratic.
      And the people from the DPR and LPR, Russia supports and will continue to do so.
  29. 0
    14 November 2016 23: 56
    It is high time! People in the DPR and LPR deserve this blood. It’s time to slowly attach them ... and the West howled and will howl like a wolf at Russia.
  30. 0
    15 November 2016 06: 12
    It is high time to make an unambiguous decision - the republics are in a "suspended" state, both ours and not ours !!!

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