Terrorists have used chlorine shells in Iraq

Militants of the IG (grouping banned in the Russian Federation) on Saturday fired upon a village located in the Iraqi province of Salah al-Din, using projectiles containing chlorine. Three civilians died, transmits RIA News message channel "As-Sumariya.

“The IS grouping fired (on Saturday) the village of Al-Hanukah in the Shergat district with more than 15 mortar shells, some of these shells contained toxic chlorine”, - leads the channel message of its source.

"As a result of the shelling, three people were killed, two were injured, among them women and children, and material damage was also inflicted," the source added.

Earlier, human rights activists of the Human Rights Watch organization stated that in September and November of the current year, IG militants carried out three chemical attacks in the area of ​​the city of Al-Qayar, south of Mosul, as a result of which 7 people suffered severe burns.

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[Thunderbolt]

All this filthy muck from Saudi Arabia and Qatar goes on. And until they are treated with dust, they will die peacefully of chlorine. Then in one place, then somewhere else. But they have agreements with the United States on joint defense, so a long-range strike Unfortunately, aviation or a strike from under water is still canceled.

[OLD FART]

Usually used in Syria (attributed to Assad) .. Do the black lord power ended and started? In vain they did it ...

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: STARPER

In vain they did it ...

It seems that "these" have already been written off. But from the struggle of the so-called. Coalitions with IS (banned ) I also do not expect anything good (it is not known which geek will come out of this, and most importantly where).

[OLD FART]

Quote: Thunderbolt

Quote: STARPER

In vain they did it ...

It seems that "these" have already been written off. But from the struggle of the so-called. Coalitions with IS (banned ) I also do not expect anything good (it is not known which geek will come out of this, and most importantly where).

We just wet the degenerates ... And we have a great experience in identifying!

No other way...

[hirurg]

Yes, the Saudi campaign will soon work for the Yemenis.
But the chlorine in Iraq and Syria is different, from the point of view of the West.

[siberalt]

For the effectiveness of the defeat, the projectile with chlorine should be the size of a train. a tank, and even then, taking into account the wind

[Giant thought]

By and large, nothing will help the bearded barmels, their caliphate will be destroyed, and so they are trying to do a damn thing in the end, but in the end they are only ruining themselves.

[OLD FART]

Quote: Giant thought

By and large, nothing will help the bearded barmels, their caliphate will be destroyed, and so they are trying to do a damn thing in the end, but in the end they are only ruining themselves.

In Ukraine, the same garbage, scorching fool in all directions ... Horror! it feels like the last time they live ...

[Normal ok]

Quote: STARPER

Quote: Giant thought

By and large, nothing will help the bearded barmels, their caliphate will be destroyed, and so they are trying to do a damn thing in the end, but in the end they are only ruining themselves.

In Ukraine, the same garbage, scorching fool in all directions ... Horror! it feels like the last time they live ...

You were there? Or quote from the zombie man?

[Asadullah]

For the effectiveness of the defeat, the projectile with chlorine should be the size of a train. a tank, and even then, taking into account the wind

Not necessary. Chlorine is heavy, and very reactionary. If it enters shelter, one breath and a burn of the lungs. The toxic property is already secondary. After applying chlorine, it is immediately clear what it was, on all metal parts there was a green coating, and the paper crumbled into dust. It’s not very much from the ruins and you’ll disappear, you have to wait until it reacts, but the scum is still worth many days.

[siberalt]

Let it be for you. You will also invite everyone to sniff chlorine from a test tube (by the way, nothing bad will happen). Or have you never been to our Soviet toilets at train stations, or sniffed the chlorinated tap water (spring-autumn)? Now imagine the concentration of a gas that can irritate or burn the respiratory tract. Death occurs not from the gas itself, but from asphyxia - edema of the bronchi as a result of the ingress of its large concentration. So calculate how much "heavy" chlorine is needed so that it, displacing the surrounding air, rises to your chin, if you are in an open area.

[Asadullah]

Let it be to you. You also suggest that everyone sniff chlorine from a test tube (by the way, nothing bad will happen).

Toilets, etc., like water, do not contain free chlorine, but in the form of hypochlorous acid, which is constantly formed in contact of the corresponding powders with water. The chlorine concentration there is very low, plus it is in a bound state with a positive oxidation state. Chlorine as a gas, it’s completely different, it is a green-brown smoke, in dry air a slight inhalation will send it to a bed with chemical pneumonia. And finding a short time, death. And most likely you will not even have time to get poisoned, the lungs will burn out faster. This is not a theory. Chlorine does not fall like a blanket to the ground, it binds to air moisture, turbulent movements occur within a few minutes after a break. And after about half an hour, chlorine accumulates in the surface layer. After that, they begin to degass. You can experiment yourself with pure chlorine, then you will understand what it is. Pour hydrochloric acid into potassium permanganate .... Yes, Arabs rarely use pure chlorine, mostly dissolved in chloroform. In case of incendiary or blasting explosive rupture, phosgene is formed in addition.

[Anglorussian]

I chlorinated toluene in the kitchen (did benzyl chloride). Actually, I poured chlorine through aquarium tubes into 3 liters and worked. It smelled great but didn't die

[Asadullah]

Actually, I poured chlorine through aquarium tubes into 3 liters and worked. It smelled great but didn't die

Apparently, and calculated by molar fractions, at least approximately. So you can calculate the partial pressure of the gas. And you will be surprised how many grams of chlorine you used for the reaction, given the mass of the toluene molecule and the replacement of one carbon atom in it. And you can smell chlorine in one millionth of a gas. In high concentration, you no longer feel the smell of "bleach", the stench is specifically chemical and drives saliva. To feel the power of chlorine, it is enough to put a piece of cardboard, aluminum wire and even something made of stainless steel into a jar with a small partial gas pressure. After that, you can imagine what will happen in your lungs, and this is a fraction of one breath of gas. As I said, the toxicity of chlorine lags behind its causticity, reactivity. Burns take place faster than poisoning.

[Anglorussian]

As far as I remember, I received about 25 grams of chlorine. Since the apparatus from matches and acorns was not sealed, part of it (4 liters somewhere) went away and weathered. Specifically, the chemical stench was despite the direct wind from the sea, but the inefficiency of chlorine was noticed as early as 1mv — it was thrown away in tons.

[Asadullah]

but the inefficiency of chlorine was noticed as early as 1mv — it was thrown away in tons.

The first applications of chlorine were just effective, given the proportionality of the lesion of l / s with other, subsequently applied OM. OVs simply appeared, more effective, devoid of the irritating factor of chlorine. You felt it on yourself, a blow to the nose of an annoying smell made you breathe slowly and be on the leeward side. Since the irritating concentration of chlorine is 6 mg per cube of air, with 3 mg of an obvious odor. Chlorine LD50 can be found in the directory "Harmful substances in industry". Super reference book, but I don't remember which chlorine is from three volumes. Seems in the third.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: siberalt

shell

And best of all, a direct hit quo --- 00.00.00

[siberalt]

Plus 100500!

[SSR]

Quote: Thunderbolt

All this needle muck from Saudi Arabia and Qatar is coming.

What are you ?! Now the State Department and Powell will come out with a refutation and "convince" everyone that this is Saddam Hussein's chemical weapon.

[volodya]

Correctly! There are terrorists in Iraq, and in Syria, the Syrian army led by Russia! Some kind of madhouse!

[prior]

It is curious what Western human rights activists will now say, will they again cast a shadow over the fence, that the sabotage groups of the Syrian army led by Assad used chemical weapons in Iraq?
With them it will become.
Something a humanitarian pause dragged on ....

[Barakuda]

And they have, as always - In Syria, Assad people are poisoning, and in Iraq, terrorists are fierce.

[avg-mgn]

Fired chem. shells village, xnumx died (from chlorine?). Two are injured than again. I understand that if, by the accumulation of forces, there would be some kind of expediency of such an attack, but here ... some kind of nonsense.

[Sagittarius]

The bearded man needs the very fact of using chemical weapons to show that they will not stop at anything, so to speak, exert moral pressure.

[Mountain shooter]

In vain they were so set up. Now on Assad - not to write off, so what? Straight heroes of the Second World War - we call fire "on ourselves"? Although the battles for Mosul have clearly shown that walks near the coalition will not work - they will be washed in blood. Until they take Qatar and the Saudis to the nail, these lice will suck blood from the Middle East.

[OLD FART]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

In vain they were so set up. Now on Assad - not to write off, so what? Straight heroes of the Second World War - we call fire "on ourselves"? Although the battles for Mosul have clearly shown that walks near the coalition will not work - they will be washed in blood. Until they take Qatar and the Saudis to the nail, these lice will suck blood from the Middle East.

Now we’ll wet .. Allahu Akbar to help us! Trump with Russia!

[Cat man null]

Quote: STARPER

Allahu Akbar to help us! Trump with Russia!

- um ...
- Well, Allah, he is ... truly akbar ...
- but with Trump, you definitely gave Mach, and repeatedly

[kush62]

A wounded beast is dangerous. These already understand. that the scribe creeps up and is very noticeable.

[Olegater]

Well here is real evidence of crimes against humanity. But in the end, what? Not a single shakalya foreign cryoprotective organization raised a howl that peaceful and defenseless old people, children, women are poisoned like cockroaches. Or are the people of Syria no longer quoted for the people? And they have no right to life? Well, where are such loud statements about the inadmissibility of the use of chemical weapons by terrorists? That their filthy tongues in jo .... have stuck these liberalists both in the west and in Russia. Where are the convictions and calls for retribution? And I’ll say the whole Western liberal bastard should be lowered into the trash regardless of ranks and ranks. And it’s time to create a world court and other organizations that are not biased by anyone, which will act fairly, and not by the amount of transferred toilet paper (dollar) for one or another profitable action.

[avg-mgn]

it's time to create a world court and not biased by anyone
Question from whom? And to whom and what to prove?

[Praetorian4]

That's how much I don’t read the news about the IG and others, the mention that the group is banned in the Russian Federation is an eyesore. What is this mantra and why should it be constantly repeated? Can anyone clarify this point? Or are there terrorist groups that are not prohibited in our country, for example?

[avg-mgn]

Specifically - IG is prohibited by the LAW of the Russian Federation, therefore, mention without reference to the Law is PUNISHABLE.
You personally violated the Law (and I don’t) and the moderator should punish you.

[Praetorian4]

Thanks for the answer. But if I were you, I would clarify for myself both points regarding whether I violated any law and whether I should be punished. And then you will believe that they are right. But this is if you are serious. If you joked, then do not specify.

[gorgo]

The question that interests me for more than one month ...

[Prince of Pensions]

Worthy students of the successors of Hitler and his ilk and who had done all this before him

[Snail N9]

Well, and if "without hysterics" and to be honest, then .... do you actually imagine how to equip mortar ammunition with chlorine (even the notorious artisanal ammunition from low pressure gas cylinders) so that during an explosion they create a sufficient concentration of it for fatal poisoning? How much ammunition is needed to create the required concentration? What is issued for the use of "chemical weapons" is nothing more than the use of ordinary artisanal ammunition, equipped with artisanal recipes based on affordable and cheap explosives based on perchlorates, which, when exploded, release a certain amount of free chlorine ...

[gorgo]

Why the hell should they use such charges? Well, did someone think about this? What for?