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Completed state tests of the new patrol ship for Russian border guards

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In early November, an acceptance certificate was signed for the Provorny escort ship, built by the shipbuilding firm Almaz (Petersburg) for the Coast Guard of the Border Guard Service of the FSB, reports bmpd.


The border guard patrol ship "Agile" project 22460 after completion of the test. Kronstadt, 05.11.2016

In total, "Agile" became the eighth patrol ship of the 22460 project cipher "Hunter", transferred to border guards, and the sixth for St. Petersburg shipbuilders.

The ship was built in accordance with the contract 2013 g and launched on May 6 this year.

It is noted that “the ship should be part of the Frontier Department of the Federal Security Service of Russia in the Republic of Crimea, however, due to the early onset of winter, its transfer from the Baltic to the Black Sea on inland waterways was postponed until 2017 navigation of the year”.

The construction of the PSCR of this project is also being carried out in Vladivostok at the Eastern Shipyard. The company handed over the ship 2 to the military.

In total (today), the border service of the Russian Federation has contracted 14 patrol ships of the 22460 project.
Photos used:
Pilot SPb / fleetphoto.ru
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  1. Hunt
    Hunt 12 November 2016 12: 15
    +9
    Congratulations to the border guards on the new Ship! good
    1. OLD FART
      OLD FART 12 November 2016 12: 23
      +3
      Interesting design! Well, we will drive poachers and saboteurs ... hi
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 12 November 2016 12: 33
        +4
        I swam around this boat in the summer, when he was still standing at the diamond. It looks extremely beautiful close.
        1. Temples
          Temples 12 November 2016 12: 42
          +28
          The coloring is only civilian.
          Why not paint because the ships of the Navy?
          "Coast security". Moreover, with the obligatory American inscription. Not tired of imitating ghouls?
          The inscription in Latin ... it feels like it's an enemy ship.
          Border violators must scatter and walk liquid under themselves at the sight of a Navy ship, and here they look almost their ally. I think so.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 12 November 2016 13: 00
            +13
            Quote: Temples
            "Coast security". Moreover, with the obligatory American inscription. Not tired of imitating ghouls?

            For foreigners, so that they could not say that they did not understand what was written
            1. Temples
              Temples 12 November 2016 13: 17
              +8
              What does the inscription have to do with it? The foreigner violated the border. What does "not understand what is written" here? Silly excuse.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 12 November 2016 14: 20
                +4
                Quote: Temples
                Stupid excuse

                Silly. But nevertheless, one can say that I have lost the course, I did not recognize the border guards, in short, "Nasalnik".
              2. Knight Rider
                Knight Rider 12 November 2016 18: 31
                +5
                Quote: Temples
                What does the inscription have to do with it? The foreigner violated the border. What does "not understand what is written" here? Silly excuse.

                Worldwide practice. The ships of the coast guard have a predominant white color, sloping stripes and the inscription coast guard.
                1. Temples
                  Temples 13 November 2016 09: 01
                  +1
                  Worldwide practice is now buggers. So what? You suggest to infuse? wassat
                  You need to live your life. Let them see from far away that they are Russians. so that the inscription was not needed. And let them learn Russian, if they are stuck with us.
            2. x.andvlad
              x.andvlad 12 November 2016 14: 01
              +7
              I am also against Latin inscriptions. Whoever needs it will immediately understand that he is dealing with a Russian ship, especially since these ships will be located near our territorial waters. If necessary, dull foreigners from the matyugalnik and walkie-talkie can explain everything.
              And the news is good. God forbid that the entire construction program would be completed without problems, and still ordered. Also, it's time to download Crimean shipyards.
            3. 210ox
              210ox 12 November 2016 18: 15
              +7
              For "dull foreigners" (what write, what do not write) there is a wonderful artillery explainer on the deck of this ship ...
          2. Igor V
            Igor V 12 November 2016 14: 12
            +16
            Quote: Temples
            The coloring is only civilian.
            Why not paint because the ships of the Navy?
            "Coast security". Moreover, with the obligatory American inscription. Not tired of imitating ghouls?
            The inscription in Latin ... it feels like it's an enemy ship.
            Border violators must scatter and walk liquid under themselves at the sight of a Navy ship, and here they look almost their ally. I think so.

            Coloring and inscriptions according to international rules. Any inaccuracy in coloring can give rise to disobedience, going to court and other tyagomotin. Our country always fulfills international obligations, which distinguishes it from banana republics.
            1. Igor V
              Igor V 12 November 2016 16: 15
              +1
              And the tricolor on board is a mandatory symbol, the flag will be green.
            2. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 12 November 2016 16: 47
              +2
              Quote: Igor V
              Coloring and inscriptions according to international rules.

              oh well ... america certainly doesn't count? they are above the Rules! ...
              1. Igor V
                Igor V 12 November 2016 18: 28
                +3
                And what is wrong?
              2. VP
                VP 12 November 2016 21: 29
                +5
                In the photo just everything according to international rules. And the coloring, and the inclined contrast strip, and the inscription.
            3. ava09
              ava09 12 November 2016 18: 42
              +4
              During the Soviet era, all of the Municipal Regiment's PSKR were painted in ball color and not a single mongrel would dare to yap.
              1. mult-65
                mult-65 13 November 2016 21: 46
                0
                And then the USSR, we safely prosrali ...
            4. Orionvit
              Orionvit 13 November 2016 07: 19
              +1
              I did not know that there is an international standard for the coloring of coastal defense vessels. Why then not introduce an international standard on the form and insignia for border guards?
            5. Temples
              Temples 13 November 2016 09: 07
              +1
              What are the rules? What are you speaking about? Rules for painting military ships? Are you seriously?
              1. Botanologist
                Botanologist 13 November 2016 21: 48
                0
                Not the military, but the border guards. Read the rules and conventions below.
          3. Cananecat
            Cananecat 12 November 2016 15: 18
            +1
            Yeah ... that would not say that they took him for a yacht of some kind of oligarch)))
          4. Botanologist
            Botanologist 12 November 2016 15: 20
            +6
            Quote: Temples
            and here they look almost their ally. I think so.

            Wrong think. International maritime law is the same for everyone. You do not want to force sailors to teach Japanese characters and Arabic script so that they can go beyond their territorial waters and recognize foreign ships?
            There are things that cannot be measured by the arshin of kvas patriotism.
            1. Temples
              Temples 13 November 2016 09: 09
              +1
              Well, show off your erudition and announce "International Maritime Law" where it is indicated how to paint warships and what should the ships of the border troops be called?
              1. Botanologist
                Botanologist 13 November 2016 13: 28
                +2
                Read, educate.

                In Russia, “customs ships”, like warships, carry a special flag and pennant (assigned to them by decree of the President of the Russian Federation) and must bear the emblem of the customs authorities on both sides of the ship (Decree of the President of the Russian Federation No. 03.12.1994 of 2152 of the Year “On Approval of Flag Description and Drawings and emblems of the customs authorities of the Russian Federation, placing the specified emblem on vehicles, as well as the pennant drawing of sea and river vessels of the customs authorities of the Russian Federation ”). They are not registered and are not controlled (observed) by the registration and control authorities of seagoing vessels (the captain of the seaport, state sea surveillance of the Rostransnadzor, the sea and river registry of Russia). The customs vessel is manned by a crew in the state law enforcement service with special ranks. The provisions of the STCW Convention 78 / 95 do not apply to them. The crew of the customs vessel is headed by a commander, not a captain. The competence for the use of customs ships and customs boats of the Russian Federation is determined by the Customs Code of the Russian Federation [30], and their status as state ships operated for non-commercial purposes is established by order of the Government of the Russian Federation in 1996. At the same time, customs ships and boats must comply with the requirements of the International Warning Rules and collisions of ships at sea (MPPSS-72) and the Rules for Navigation on the Inland Waterways of Russia (PPVVP RF).

                Patrol vessels of the State Maritime Inspectorate (GMI) of the Coast Guard of the FSB of the Russian Federation carry a flag assigned to ships (boats) and ships of the coast guard of the FSB of the Russian Federation (they are not ships (boats) and ships of sea units (divisions) of the coast guard of the border service, staffed by military personnel) but at the same time they carry out specific functions to protect economic security - marine biological resources in inland sea waters, the territorial sea and the exclusive economic zone. They are not registered and are not controlled by the registration and control authorities of seagoing vessels (seaport captain, state supervision of Rostransnadzor, Russian maritime register). The provisions of the STCW Convention 78 / 95 do not apply to them. However, in doing so, they must comply with the requirements of the International Rules for the Prevention and Collision of Ships at Sea (MPPSS-72) and the Rules for Navigation on Inland Waterways of Russia (PPVVP RF).
                It should be noted that patrol vessels and boats of the State Marine Inspectorate of the Coast Guard of the Border Service of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation are staffed with a crew that is not in the civil service, i.e. workers, and are headed by a captain.

                1. International Rules for Preventing Collisions at Sea (MPPSS-72). www.seaman-sea.ru
                2. 1979 International Convention on the Rescue of the Year. www.maritimelaw.ru
                3. Rome Convention for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts against the Safety of Maritime Navigation 19SS of the year. www.trancons.ru
                4. International Code for the Protection of Ships and Port Facilities (MK ISPS). www.msecurity.ru
                5. UN Convention on the Law of the Sea 19S2 of the year. M., 19S5.
                6. Federal Law of the Russian Federation of 30.04.1999 of the year No.81-ФЗ “Code of Merchant Shipping of the Russian Federation”. base.garant.ru
                7. Legal Guide to Merchant Shipping I Ed. A.S. Kokina. M., 2002.
                8. International Convention Against the Taking of Hostages, 1979 of the Year. avia3000.narod.ru
                9. Dictionary of International Law of the Sea. Ed. SOUTH. Barsegova. M., 19S5.
                10. Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of 12 August 2010 g. N 620. “On approval of technical regulations on the safety of sea transport facilities”. base. consultant.ru.
                11. International Convention on the Training and Certification of Seafarers and Watchkeeping of the STCW 78I95 of the Year. www.maritimelaw.ru
                12. International Convention on the Unification of Certain Rules Relating to the Immunity of State Courts of the 1926 of the Year // Current International Law. Collection: in 2 T.T. 2. / Ed. Yu.M. Kolosova. M., 2007.
                13. Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation of 02.04.2008 of the year No. 233 “On the conditions for navigating naval vessels, border ships, military auxiliary vessels and other vessels that are state or municipal property and operated only for non-commercial purposes” on the inland waterways of the Russian Federation. base.garant.ru
                14. Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of 03.12.1994 of the year No. 2152 “On approval of the description and drawings of the flag and emblem of the customs authorities of the Russian Federation, the placement of this emblem on vehicles, as well as the pennant drawing of sea and river vessels of the customs authorities of the Russian Federation” // www.customs.ru
                15. 1958 UN High Seas Convention. www.maritimelaw.ru
          5. ava09
            ava09 12 November 2016 18: 35
            +3
            We will throw the invaders out of power - repainted in a traditional ball color. So it was, it will be so ...
            1. Vz.58
              Vz.58 12 November 2016 20: 16
              +2
              In a spherical color, so that later in the country again "roll a ball"?
              1. ava09
                ava09 12 November 2016 22: 22
                +4
                (c) In the ball color, so that later in the country again "roll the ball"? (c)
                On this occasion, a bearded anecdote comes to mind: "... Sit a fool, I'll open it myself" ... What did you smoke? )
              2. 33 Watcher
                33 Watcher 13 November 2016 09: 08
                +1
                Quote: Vz.58
                In a spherical color, so that later in the country again "roll a ball"?

                And that in the Czech Republic after painting one patrol boat for six months there is nothing to eat? belay I sympathize crying
                Write to Brussels, to Brussels. Can we throw it on the paint ..? laughing
          6. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 13 November 2016 09: 05
            0
            Coast guard ships around the world have a similar coloring. Apparently there is an international maritime standard ..? That would be recognizable. This is a patrol ship, not a battle ship, although armed.
            Like a police car, also by the way the coloring in most countries is similar ...
        2. Mikado
          Mikado 12 November 2016 13: 36
          +9
          I have been working in my field with Almaz (both a marine plant and a shipbuilding company) for the second year. In some ways, I'm even proud)) God forbid that they still build!
          1. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 13 November 2016 09: 10
            +1
            Quote: Mikado
            In some ways, even proud)

            There is something yes
    2. Juborg
      Juborg 12 November 2016 12: 27
      +1
      The next batch and the following will go with "Calibers" and "Packet", if the Defense Ministry is not lying.
      1. avt
        avt 12 November 2016 12: 39
        +9
        Quote: juborg
        The next batch and the following will go with "Calibers" and "Package".

        laughing Oh me these calibrators laughing Now packaged. Special
        Quote: juborg
        if the Defense Min do not lie.

        laughing Directly according to Vysotsky - “we have already eaten the dog on them, if the doctor is not lying to us.” Did you read the article at all? Well, EVERYTHING?
        It is noted that “the ship should be part of the Border Directorate of the FSB of Russia for the Republic of Crimea, however, due to the early onset of winter, its transfer from the Baltic to the Black Sea via inland waterways was postponed until navigation in 2017
        Have you tried to think? bullyEspecially when you do not see the start point blank
        In early November, the acceptance certificate of the Agile guard ship, built at the Almaz shipbuilding company (St. Petersburg) for the Coast Guard of the FSB Border Guard Service, was signed
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        1. avt
          avt 12 November 2016 12: 54
          +4
          Quote: rudolff
          And what about the Ministry of Defense? Customer FSB.

          ,, You have no right! Senior ordered! "
          Quote: juborg
          The next batch and the following will go already with "Calibers" and "Package"

          laughing laughing
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        2. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 12 November 2016 13: 23
          +3
          Quote: rudolff
          And what about the Ministry of Defense? Customer FSB.

          Volchara, hello! drinks
          Rudolph, did you really forget about the mob plan and where do the border guards go after the retrofit !? belay
          Yes OVR rubs his hands and licks his lips at the very thought that such units will be in their submission. fellow
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            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 12 November 2016 17: 23
              +5
              Quote: rudolff
              on these boats Uranus is provided with art. Where else are Caliber!
              Perhaps this is possible. But most likely it will become an IPC or an PLO / PPDO boat with O-GAS and a pair of TA, maybe "Packet-NK" will be attached. At least the former border guards were converted into the IPC. For the RCA, other speeds are needed: after all, sea cavalry, however!
              About Caliber say those who have recently heard about their existence. Newmoreans, their mother in deadwood! angry
      3. Banishing liberoids
        Banishing liberoids 12 November 2016 13: 29
        +3
        YUBORG-ON next will be equipped with an electromagnetic gun, a combat laser, and a hundred zircon missiles lol
      4. alexmach
        alexmach 12 November 2016 14: 45
        +2
        630 tons displacement, what damn calibers? What are you talking about?
      5. ava09
        ava09 12 November 2016 18: 40
        0
        It’s just not clear - why would a border guard carry such weapons in peacetime with him? But in a threatened period, it would be nice to just load the same "Calibers" on them.
    3. 210ox
      210ox 12 November 2016 18: 11
      +3
      The son is going to enter the Anapa Maritime School of the FSB. If everything works out, there will be something to serve .... Good luck, Nikolai!
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 13 November 2016 06: 17
        +3
        Regarding the "peaceful white color" I want to say, even call it "enemy" here ..
        . Borders (and in general the FSB) are special people and their tasks are specific. Armament for peacetime is more than good They are more important for peacetime reliability of the power plant and high-speed qualities, because constantly at sea. Yes, and no one canceled international law --- we are not pirates anyway. So, for poachers this peaceful coloring is worse than any ball.
        And during the war, such a boat can be easily disguised as fishermen or a coast guard ship of a hostile state, as a Greenpeace ship, damn it, Greenpeace entot !!!)))
        The main thing is that the connection is good and these people will do everything that is necessary and as it should be.
        For example, the working days of Japanese border guards. We took Chinese fishermen in a box near Senkaku. Technically they took on boarding without noise, dust and without "Gauges". hi
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  3. Galleon
    Galleon 12 November 2016 12: 23
    +3
    "Nimble" ... I think the sailors will call him "Nimble" in everyday life and among themselves.
  4. Monarchist
    Monarchist 12 November 2016 12: 54
    +2
    Quite good patrol: 630 displacement, 60 days autonomy, 2 "Korda", 1 AK630. More of these ships
    1. Cat
      Cat 12 November 2016 13: 16
      +1
      It was possible to equip a tooth! At least with an eye to mobilization during martial law.
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 12 November 2016 15: 32
        +1
        Quote: Kotischa
        It was possible to equip a tooth!


        Yeah, fluff 130 mm, undersized GAS, Granite there or Zircon, torpedo tubes heels, bombs on the sides, and of the dipole masking system. wassat fellow The most is for catching poachers.
        fool
        1. Cat
          Cat 12 November 2016 19: 34
          0
          Border services ships must have a mobilization reserve for armaments in case of military operations. Minimum vertical air defense system and 76mm gun. It is not necessary to carry it on yourself constantly, but in case of war it should be established within XNUMX hours. If this is not taken into account, we will bite the elbows and from the trawlers ersatz patrolmen rivet in haste.
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 12 November 2016 20: 08
            +2
            Quote: Kotischa
            in case of war, this should be established within 24 hours


            You go to the marine forums, read how the ship is designed, how the weight distribution goes, contours are adjusted where the fighting posts are and how many kilometers of wire you need to install a gun (and Puma is needed for it, and Puma is needed for a fire control system, etc. .), and how much all this should be set in time, etc. And then fantasize.
            I’ll keep silent about the air defense system so as not to go to the mat.
      2. Laksamana besar
        Laksamana besar 13 November 2016 11: 53
        0
        They have the ability to quickly install the Uranus missile defense system or A-220M control system, as the developer spoke about, if that.
  5. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 12 November 2016 13: 26
    +1
    This spring will go through the Don, and sits on our shoals on the belly belay There are virtually no fairways, ships stand for days waiting for a lot of water. A horror movie can be made on its transition to the Black Sea! laughing
  6. siemens7774
    siemens7774 12 November 2016 13: 47
    +1
    In vain, they do not immediately place anti-aircraft missile blocks in front of the superstructure. Such large ships should be covered by air defense. Then there will be no time to supplement them, and in the service of the first they will encounter airspace violators.
    1. Galleon
      Galleon 12 November 2016 13: 59
      +7
      Gentlemen, moderate your requests. These boats are not intended for warfare, and even more so for the protection of the air borders of our homeland. His task is to catch up with the intruder or poacher, block his path with obstructive fire in front of his nose, land the inspection team and escort the intruder-steamer to the place of serving the arrest. All! The rest is up to the military.
    2. Cananecat
      Cananecat 12 November 2016 15: 22
      0
      Actually, the AK 630 is paired with a firing radar if cho ... so there’s only the TsU button to press)))
      This is my friend not Gyurza M, he will put her in the first volley in the knee-elbow position.
    3. Botanologist
      Botanologist 12 November 2016 15: 37
      +1
      Quote: siemens7774
      In vain, they do not immediately put anti-aircraft missile blocks in front of the superstructure


      They carried the shoes to Petya ...
      Which bet do you need - Fort or Redoubt? And how many cells?
      And what are the goals for the border guard to determine - just shoot the gulls or horseradish all that flies?
  7. cop
    cop 12 November 2016 14: 07
    0
    Quote: Temples
    The coloring is only civilian.
    Why not paint because the ships of the Navy?
    "Coast security". Moreover, with the obligatory American inscription. Not tired of imitating ghouls?
    The inscription in Latin ... it feels like it's an enemy ship.
    Border violators must scatter and walk liquid under themselves at the sight of a Navy ship, and here they look almost their ally. I think so.
    1. cop
      cop 12 November 2016 14: 23
      +3
      the love of Russians for the inscriptions in English is amazing! there is no pride in their language, their alphabet. as elementary school students began to learn a foreign language. But the British stole the alphabet from the Latins, moreover, they changed the names of the letters. And now our nouveaux riches write the names of their shops in Aglitsky, the population wears clothes with the same inscriptions, on the fences also not ours, athletes in clothes with the inscription rush ??? UAZs are called hunters and other and other. How long, Russians?
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 12 November 2016 15: 38
        +2
        Where did you study international law of the sea?
  8. cap
    cap 12 November 2016 14: 12
    0
    The border guard patrol ship "Agile" project 22460 after completion of the test. Kronstadt, 05.11.2016

    Handsome. Balts will salivate. laughing
  9. satelit24
    satelit24 12 November 2016 14: 26
    0
    does not inspire due trepidation - as expected!
  10. Bogranz
    Bogranz 12 November 2016 15: 02
    0
    To accomplish the tasks of guarding the border of arms, it is more than enough, and in the event of war it will still act as part of anti-sabotage forces.
  11. ALLxANDr
    ALLxANDr 12 November 2016 15: 42
    +2
    Stop popularizing the English language! The English government is successfully coping with this. And it is not enough that on central television more and more English words slip through, so now on ships ??? A lot of honor to the British ... They generally need to be deprived of this status because of colonial manners! But Russian border guards are difficult to confuse with something else .. especially after a warning) In general, it would be a good practice to duplicate an inscription in a language with a neighboring state. China means in Chinese. Japan means in Japanese ... well, Ukraine in Russian))) It is hard to imagine that someone on the other side did not understand the inscription) And they speak and curse at it even in parliament!
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    2. Igor V
      Igor V 12 November 2016 21: 21
      +1
      And in Baltiysk what to write on? In Polish, Lithuanian, Swedish? And there will be no space left on board.
      1. ALLxANDr
        ALLxANDr 12 November 2016 23: 08
        0
        where is such a parsley with countries - in Russian mighty! )
  12. prior
    prior 12 November 2016 16: 23
    +5
    For those who do not understand what is written in GREAT and MIGHT, there is a six-barreled "translator" on the tank!

    Speaks all languages ​​and dialects.
  13. Caretaker
    Caretaker 12 November 2016 17: 01
    +1
    What is the argument about?
    On board it says "Coast Guard" in Russian.
  14. tsvetkov1274
    tsvetkov1274 12 November 2016 17: 05
    0
    It will not be shaky to shake at work 630 wassat
  15. pv1005
    pv1005 12 November 2016 17: 05
    +2
    Quote: ALLxANDr
    Stop popularizing the English language! The English government is successfully coping with this. And it is not enough that on central television more and more English words slip through, so now on ships ??? A lot of honor to the British ... They generally need to be deprived of this status because of colonial manners! But Russian border guards are difficult to confuse with something else .. especially after a warning) In general, it would be a good practice to duplicate an inscription in a language with a neighboring state. China means in Chinese. Japan means in Japanese ... well, Ukraine in Russian))) It is hard to imagine that someone on the other side did not understand the inscription) And they speak and curse at it even in parliament!

    A couple of posts above have already been asked. Where did you study the law of the sea?
    1. win
      win 12 November 2016 18: 01
      +1
      Where did you study the law of the sea?

      Winners write international laws.
      Today they are, and tomorrow - you look and others ...
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 12 November 2016 20: 12
        +2
        Quote: Siegen
        Winners write international laws.


        The laws of the sea are not written by the victors, but by the survivors, and from the time of the Roman Empire. You do not need a snowstorm in revenge if you do not understand the topic from the word AT ALL.
        1. win
          win 13 November 2016 11: 27
          0
          Maritime laws are not written by winners

          Survivors are winners. Losers who did not survive cannot write anything.
          At all times ... The law of evolution.
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 13 November 2016 13: 37
            0
            Quote: Siegen
            The law of evolution.

            Well, let's talk about evolution. Are you a supporter of what theory - Darwinism, according to Chevalier de Lamarck, or synthetic theory?
            This I mean that in different theories the groups of surviving individuals and populations are very different laughing
      2. pv1005
        pv1005 12 November 2016 20: 29
        0
        Quote: Siegen
        Where did you study the law of the sea?

        Winners write international laws.
        Today they are, and tomorrow - you look and others ...

        Come tomorrow. And today they are the way they are, regardless of whether you like them or not. hi
        1. win
          win 13 November 2016 11: 34
          0
          Come tomorrow. And today they are as they are

          I’ll come for sure tomorrow. And you adapt. You probably like it.
    2. ALLxANDr
      ALLxANDr 12 November 2016 23: 06
      +3
      Maritime law say where studied? I ask you a counter question, and who wrote this marine law? Could it be the British? Then here is another question, but the right in space? And they also wrote land law .. And will there be at least some right written in Russian? Let it be officially written in Russian, and let the British translate into their bourgeois. It’s just that this right is not upheld from the point of view of Russia's interests. Even if we are ahead of the rest. And here is another question: why?
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 13 November 2016 13: 42
        0
        Quote: ALLxANDr
        Maritime law say where studied? I ask you a counter question, and who wrote this marine law? Could it be the British? Then here is another question, but the right in space? And they also wrote land law .. And will there be at least some right written in Russian? Let it be officially written in Russian, and let the British translate into their bourgeois. It’s just that this right is not upheld from the point of view of Russia's interests. Even if we are ahead of the rest. And here is another question: why?


        1. Maritime law has been written since the time of the Roman Empire, when the British did not even know what a herd was.

        2. Maritime law is written by the maritime powers. Well, do not write it in Mongolia, right? And it is written in the language of sea powers. Open the encyclopedia, look who is in our naval powers. For general development.
        3. Defending the interests of Russia - a mechanism to describe what you offer.
        1. ALLxANDr
          ALLxANDr 13 November 2016 18: 08
          +1
          1. Maritime law has been written since the time of the Roman Empire, when the British did not even know what a herd was.
          - I partially agree. But is the law of the sea written in Italian or what? And the names of the ships are probably also written in Italian?
          2. The law of the sea is written by the maritime powers. Well, do not write it in Mongolia, right? And it is written in the language of sea powers.
          - I agree. But partially! Is England a sea power now? England with the navy is in trouble now. It’s not a sea power, not a sea .. But for the sake of justice, one can add, for that the power is America. But let's imagine an experiment for the sake of ceasing to be a power (due to some internal problems), will this right be Italian, French or Russian? At least suppose in 200 years, when this right will need to be rewritten for conformity and the requirement of that time? But the pipes! This will not happen, because they perceive such things as a national threat! And they do everything, I emphasize - everything! From threats and bribery, to a real mess! And they learned to do it with the wrong hands!
          3. Defending the interests of Russia - a mechanism to describe what you offer.
          - And what is worse than the English mechanism? I am surprised that we are not yet writing in Latin. More recently, they even presented Lavrov with a red button with the inscription - peregruzka (instead of rebooting). This type of Cyrillic font was not found? I doubt very much that our ambassadors will present such a button where the English word will be written in Russian. And so in everything - you understand? My little brother comes and says, and you played the game ... and calls the game in English! And I say - I don’t understand anything, how is that translated? He doesn’t know the translation, and what’s the most interesting - he sees no reason to translate !!! I personally observed sincere surprise on his face!
          Well, let us be out of work, on the water ... on the ground, are we also somewhere in the tail? And let it be off topic, but now we are actively starting to go into space, why aren’t special regulatory institutions in space created? With a regulatory center in Russia? I’ll just explain what I mean - all these institutions are created in Europe. From standardization - metrology to political - sports. Once all these institutions were not politically engaged, but someone was more prudent just in case. Like, let's write all this in English, because we tried so hard to make our language a standard! What is bad here ?! Let's create it right here in Europe, let’s say, for example, in Brussels? What our compatriots can do now in all these created organizations is only to correspond to what is written. A step to the left, a step to the right - problems begin.
          That's what I mean. Not in particular, but in general!
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 13 November 2016 18: 23
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            Well, if the UN recognized English as an international language - now what is the flour grinding? Somehow you need to be within.
            If you don’t want to - let's pupate, like North Korea, we won’t talk in a foreign language and generally we won’t communicate with anyone. Well, maybe for Kitty we will learn Chinese a little bit, and for Smrmm - Arabic. And that’s all.
            Do you like it better?
            And we will not fly anywhere - dispatchers all over the world with the Russian language are not very good. But we will not be with them in English, right? We are proud.
            1. ALLxANDr
              ALLxANDr 13 November 2016 18: 47
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              So I'm not talking about pride at all. I’m wondering who chose it international? It is clear that they scored a bunch of people from all over the world. But who was the girl dancing there? ) Chinese speakers - more. Hindu speaking more. The same Arabs and those more! And if you put them together - you get them Big half of humanity! Who is embarrassed, Europeans? ))) It is logical that the UN European Institute chose the European lobby language. Well, let it not be Chinese, Hindu, and Arabic - let it be neutral or something. But the main thing is that the institute is in neutral territory, so that there is no such pressure from the outside. And it will be easier for our children - I learned my own and neutral and that's it. They will understand you everywhere.
  16. metallic
    metallic 12 November 2016 17: 16
    +2
    Quote: Temples
    Latin inscription ... it feels like it's an enemy ship

    Right At first I thought that by mistake the US ship was slammed.
  17. forcecom
    forcecom 12 November 2016 19: 28
    +3
    In principle, there are doubts that even Uranus will fit into it, 2 packages of 4 launchers are at least 7-8 tons on the upper deck + the firing complex itself with a weight of about half a ton, not the fact that there is such a modernization reserve with such a displacement.
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 12 November 2016 20: 16
      +1
      Quote: Forcecom
      this is at least 7-8 tons on the upper deck + the firing complex itself with a kit of about half a ton


      AUUU! WHAT ARE YOU, WITH BARRIER? WHAT ... modernization potential at the frontier? And what were you planning to put on the trawler - Bugas? Or confine yourself to torpedoes?
      Guys, get comfortable, you do not need to carry nonsense with smart faces.
      First, read something about the tasks of the naval group in the BMZ, in peacetime and wartime, the required outfit of forces and means, and then TURN ON MOSCOW AND THINK.
  18. tinibar
    tinibar 12 November 2016 20: 09
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    Quote: STARPER
    Interesting design! Well, we will drive poachers and saboteurs ... hi


    It is unlikely that all of his capabilities were put up for public discussion, but I am interested in his capabilities in detecting an underwater enemy. Maybe someone knows something?
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 12 November 2016 20: 55
      +2
      He knows.
      This is a border guard, his opponent is smugglers and poachers.
      He discovers underwater poachers on a supply vessel from which swimmers catch cucumaria.
      Enough, or else to paint?
      1. tinibar
        tinibar 12 November 2016 21: 13
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        Do our borders need only protection from smugglers and poachers? But the underwater violation of the border does not count? Therefore, I am interested ...
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 12 November 2016 22: 29
          +2
          bully bully
          Quote: tinibar
          But the underwater violation of the border does not count? Therefore, I am interested ...


          The border service is driving smugglers and poachers. She guards the ECONOMIC zone. Submarine warfare is the lot of the Navy; for a moment this is a completely different department. This agency has anti-submarine defense, aircraft, patrol ships and anti-sabotage boats, and much more bully .
          You do not force the customs service to carry RPGs and Kalash seriously, and sit on the border in the Bunkers, right?
  19. Neputin
    Neputin 13 November 2016 00: 12
    +1
    A heated discussion about nothing. For the first. This is just a border guard patrol ship with a displacement of 630 tons. It costs 1 AK 630 and 2 machine guns 12, 7 mm. Physically, it cannot carry either a caliber, an NK Package, or anything else. For the second. A perfectly fair question: is it needed at HERA ?. As a border ship, it is completely useless. He cannot protect the border. Only as protection against smuggling. no more. With such weapons, with the necessary skills, it can also be sunk with a combat raft, or an inflatable mattress. May our patriots not be offended by me.
  20. Private27
    Private27 13 November 2016 07: 06
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    Quote: Vz.58
    In a spherical color, so that later in the country again "roll a ball"?

    After 1996, Sakhalin became a ball of ride. Nevelsk.
  21. Orionvit
    Orionvit 13 November 2016 07: 22
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    Quote: juborg
    The next batch and the following will go with "Calibers" and "Packet", if the Defense Ministry is not lying.

    Yeah, and then vertical take-off combines. Press and then we will equip the police and police with missiles.
  22. cat hippopotamus
    cat hippopotamus 13 November 2016 21: 43
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    I would also like to see the performance characteristics of "Agile"
  23. RASKAT
    RASKAT 15 November 2016 21: 02
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    Great news, seven feet under the keel.