Media: Russia is ready to transfer to Serbia the party MiG-29 with the condition that Belgrade will pay for the repair of aircraft

Moscow expressed its willingness to transfer to Serbia 6 fighters MiG-29 from the presence and several units of armored vehicles, provided that Belgrade will pay for the repair of the aircraft, reports RIA News the message of the newspaper "Evening news».

According to the newspaper’s source, “the issue of transferring military equipment was discussed behind closed doors at the 15th meeting of the Intergovernmental Committee for Trade, Economic, Scientific and Technical Cooperation in Suzdal, despite the fact that the First Deputy Prime Minister (and Foreign Minister) of Serbia Ivica According to the results of the meeting on November XNUMX, Dacic said that “today we did not talk about weapons"".

The Serbian military department refused to comment on this information.

“The official reaction of President Tomislav Nikolic and the Government of Serbia is now expected, and the expected cost of repairing the aircraft may be an obstacle to the implementation of this project. Moscow allegedly indicated that the repair of fighter aircraft and related equipment required about 50 million dollars.- added the interlocutor of the publication.

The newspaper notes that the Serbian Air Force fighter fleet consists of several MiG-21 and MiG-29, as well as the Yugoslav Ora-22 and is in dire need of modernization.

Comments

[Alex_Rarog]

Well, why wouldn’t the Brothers help) I think these planes are all exactly written off!

[Thrall]

Brothers who listen to someone else’s uncle from behind a puddle, let them buy one F-35 for all the Air Force for $ 350 million from the same uncle.

[Felix99]

Russia creates a ring of allies. Very wise.

[Blackmokona]

Giving airplanes to a country that has soaped up in the EU, which is also a military unit

The transition to a common defense policy is based on a unanimous decision of the European Council (Article 27 (1) of the Rome Treaty). The Reform Treaty lays down the mandatory collective responsibility of EU member states. If the state has become a victim of aggression, other states are “obligated” to provide assistance and support “by all possible means”.

[aleks26]

Quote: Felix99

Russia creates a ring of allies.

Are there allies?

[Fitter65]

That is very wisely noticed.

[Garris199]

Quote: Felix99

Russia creates a ring of allies. Very wise.

Rather, a parasite ring.

[WKS]

Quote: Alex_Rarog

Well, why wouldn’t the Brothers help) I think these planes are all exactly written off!

The same to me brothers, at the first opportunity to sell, they are immediately sold as cheap prostitutes.

[just exp]

it’s not necessary to write about the Serbs, if the government there, which the FORCE planted there, doesn’t look very strongly towards Russia, then the people there have always been pro-Russian.
and moreover, even the government that was imposed by FORCE there, and WE are to blame for this, when we allowed NATO to bomb Serbia, and that does not impose sanctions against Russia, although we pressed them very hard.

[Cat]

Yes! I agree that at 00 we betrayed the Serbs.
But if we conduct a conversation with them from the position of insults and claims, we can alienate a potential ally. In this connection it is necessary to show flexibility, especially to our military-industrial complex 50 million are not superfluous.

[OLD FART]

We will agree with them .... Especially after the exercises Russia, Belarus, Serbia! This is just the beginning ...

[rabbi's pais]

Quote: STARPER

We will agree with them.

Eh, everyone would have such optimism as yours.

[alexmach]

Quote: Kotischa

Yes! I agree that at 00 we betrayed the Serbs.

Look deeper, in the 90s we betrayed ourselves.

[tihiy]

Quote: just explo

it’s not necessary to write about the Serbs, if the government there, which the FORCE planted there, doesn’t look very strongly towards Russia, then the people there have always been pro-Russian.
and moreover, even the government that was planted by FORCE there, and WE are to blame for this, when we allowed NATO to bomb Serbia, and that does not impose sanctions against Russia, although they pressed them very hard

All right. Serbs-Yugoslavia surrendered pagans Yeltsinoids

[cap]

Quote: wks

Quote: Alex_Rarog

Well, why wouldn’t the Brothers help) I think these planes are all exactly written off!

The same to me brothers, at the first opportunity to sell, they are immediately sold as cheap prostitutes.

They want to become cool chelas at our expense, let them pay in full, it’s enough that they returned the hole from the donut for Soviet debts.

[Andrey K]

You got a little excited ...
Among the Serbs I know, not a single one holding a stone in his bosom. Hard workers, in the mood - sovereigns, at the first opportunity, substituting a friendly shoulder.
However, judging by some of those in power in Serbia, your remark makes sense ...
I think that this political foam will come to naught.

[Terminolol]

Enough for everyone to just feed! It has long been necessary to understand that among the surrounding states we no longer have allies. There are fraternal peoples, but fraternal states are no longer and will not be. So, if you wanted capitalism, take it and sign it ... commodity-money-commodity!

[Cat man null]

Quote: Terminol

Enough for everyone to just feed! ... take and sign ... goods-money-goods!

- these MIG-29s, if you don’t transmit them, will simply rot quietly on the ground
- passing them, we have the following ... um ... profits:
- repair and modernization - paid
- spare parts supply and service - paid
- Serbs use Russian technology, not enemy, which is also important

Something like this ... capitalism You are ours, homegrown

[Stas157]

For once, I agree with the Cat Manul! We are likely to lose planes anyway, and even earn on repairs! Well, and for one wide gesture towards the Serbs.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Stas157

For once, I agree with the Cat Manuel

- Immanuel then ... perhaps closer to the philosophers
- and in general - call names - not good

[Stas157]

I beg a petition, I didn’t even think about calling names! Not in my habits. Wrote, what is written in Nick in English letters. In advance, as you say, I will call you!

[Cat man null]

Quote: Stas157

Wrote, what is written in Nick in English letters

- what is written in the nickname is drawn in the picture
- Cat Manul, at your service

[Monarchist]

Sorry for the curiosity: the cat manuil or imanuil, how is it right? And sometimes you want to turn and be afraid to inadvertently offend

[Cat man null]

Quote: Monarchist

sometimes you want to turn and be afraid to inadvertently offend

- copy the nickname. Copy-paste. Definitely not mistaken
- not only refers to my nickname, by the way

Quote: Monarchist

cat manuel or imanuel, how correct?

- michael
- in no way
- wrote above already, take a look there

[Monarchist]

I will try, but I ask you to forgive in advance: "I am not a magician, I am just learning" (wonderful old film "Cinderella")

[OLD FART]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Quote: Monarchist

sometimes you want to turn and be afraid to inadvertently offend

- copy the nickname. Copy-paste. Definitely not mistaken
- not only refers to my nickname, by the way

Quote: Monarchist

cat manuel or imanuel, how correct?

- michael
- in no way
- wrote above already, take a look there

The cat is brave and writes well, although it sometimes "scratches" ...)))

Do not touch him, he is a techie ...

[Terminolol]

You apparently work in a charity fund. Ie do you think that we should repair the planes for free, just because they rot at the Serbs, right?

[alexmach]

It’s only a pity that there is no full replacement for these MiGs ... There is MiG-35, but it certainly won’t be as massive as 29, and it seems that it’s still not accepted for service.

[Olegovi4]

Of course not. After all, the 29th was built not only for the Soviet Army, but also for the entire Warsaw bloc. Russia absolutely does not need such quantities of Mig-35.

[Garris199]

Quote: Cat Man Null

passing them, we have the following ... um ... profits
- repair and modernization - paid
- spare parts supply and service - paid

Yes, yes, paid .... but we will only pay. Our little brothers are expected to have no money. Just like now.

and an obstacle to the implementation of this project may be the expected price of aircraft repairs. Moscow allegedly indicated that about $ 50 million was needed to repair fighter jets and related equipment.

The Serbian military department refused to comment on this information.

[User]

Quote: Terminol

Enough for everyone to just feed!

Before writing a comment, can I read the news?
There is a technique in need of repair. So it is not used now. MiG-29 has been in operation since 1983, i.e. no longer new (both physically and mentally). Well, they will put it on conservation (if it is not there right now) and it will rot quietly.
Serbia is offered to pay for repairs and pick up equipment. Those. Serbia will receive airplanes, and Russia will receive money. In your opinion, let it stand still and collect dust?

[Terminolol]

Apparently you yourself did not read what was written. There it said in a clear language "REPAIR ON AN ADVANCE PAYMENT", i.e. pay and everything will be done. Where are the contradictions with my comment?

[Monarchist]

Honorable, can you say with 100% guarantee that we had fraternal states?
In my opinion, each state has and should have some differences, and there cannot be completely fraternal states

[Terminolol]

From the point of view of the Soviet man in the street, it probably was. It is unlikely that at that time anyone would have thought that Ukraine could betray us. That in the former republics there will be persecutions of Russians, just for the fact that their passports say "Russian" and the surname Ivanov! That Belarus will be friends with us only for buy and sell. And all this was done at the state levels or with the connivance of the authorities, which is the same thing.

[Monarchist]

Konstantin, you touch upon a painful and difficult topic: interethnic relations in the former Union.
I somehow had to communicate with an adequate nationalist-Latvian and he with reservations, but regretted that the Union fell apart and now they look at each other as a beast

[Damir]

Too few details ... is it that the transmitted sides require modernization or the transferred sides will remain in the Serbian Air Force after the modernization of the Air Force fleet that they have now ????

[Terminolol]

This information is provided by Wiki: For 2014, fighter aircraft totaled 4 combat-ready fighters (3 MiG-29 and 1 MiG-21) [6]. In 2014, the Serbian Air Force had many aircraft (200 aircraft and helicopters), but only one of them was released after 1992 [7]. The rest were produced in 1972-1992 [7]. In the country's air force in 2014: 16 training aircraft, 23 combat training aircraft, 52 attack aircraft and reconnaissance aircraft, 38 fighters, 14 transport aircraft and 57 helicopters [7]. A significant part of the fleet as of 2014 was in non-flying condition [7]. In June 2016 alone, 2 Russian-made Mi-17 helicopters arrived in Serbia (the first arrival of new helicopters in 36 years) [8] [9].
It looks like they have practically no fleet. They want to solve this problem with the help of our defense industry and make a cap. repair of what has not rotted yet.

[Felix99]

I agree that you need to load the enterprise, thereby reducing the costs of improving and building your own videoconferencing.

[Olegovi4]

well, if using our defense industry, and not at the expense of our taxpayer.

[OLD FART]

We are still to blame for the Serbs for Yugoslavia ... They are drawn to us historically! You need to help all the same ...

[Terminolol]

What are we to blame for them? The fact that they did not get involved in the war or the fact that they did not invest in their air defense?
What a complex of eternal guilt !!!?

[OLD FART]

Quote: Terminol

What are we to blame for them? The fact that they did not get involved in the war or the fact that they did not invest in their air defense?
What a complex of eternal guilt !!!?

Do not be angry ... Well, we still have this, we are not the west! Throughout our history, we always defend someone in war. We are all embroiling, it’s already in the genes .. Although for the last 20 years it has been intensely corrupting us from the soul (of our children and grandchildren ..) We are what we are!

[Terminolol]

Dear STARPER, in the comment above I tried to share the friendship of peoples and states. I agree with you, the Russian man is so educated that our sense of duty and justice is overstated relative to the Europeans, and this is carefully eradicated in us.

[Stas157]

Quote: Terminol

What are we to blame for them? The fact that they did not get involved in the war or the fact that they did not invest in their air defense?
What a complex of eternal guilt !!!?

We are guilty first of all in front of ourselves that the CMEA bloc also destroyed such a mighty country! And we are to blame for those countries that counted on this powerful country and based on this I have been building my whole life! When the USSR collapsed, then the political and economic systems of many countries failed. The destruction of the USSR is the direct cause of the negative consequences for our friendly countries. It turns out their problem is that they were friends with the USSR, and we did not live up to their hopes.

[Terminolol]

This is just the biggest MYTH! The fact that Russia as a part of the USSR pulled the whole bloc on its hump is no longer remembered, neither do they remember that the Balts were the first to run from the union and that the collapse of the union was not only an initiative of one side. For that we have taken upon ourselves almost all the debts of the union and "imaginary guilt" is this how? So you don't need to breed snot.

[Stas157]

Quote: Terminol

This is just the biggest myth!

Quote: Terminol

So no need to breed snot.

I just offered a view from the outside, through the eyes of a person living in the same Serbia. After all, if Serbia was an American puppet, and not a country more sympathetic to Russia, it would hardly be bombed by NATO! So the desire to pretend that Russia has nothing to do with it is like hiding your head in the sand! "I'm not guilty!" Yes, after the collapse of the USSR, a new redivision of the world began! Someone, like different Polish-Baltic states, began to lick, and someone had to fire and sword, while Russia watched all this from the sidelines, pretending that it had nothing to do with it!

[cap]

Quote: Stas157

Yes, after the collapse of the USSR, a new redivision of the world began! Someone began to lick different Polish-Baltic states, and someone had to use fire and sword, while Russia shamefully observed all this from the side, pretending that it had nothing to do with it!

We ourselves suffer from this, but who and how much money has been put into it? You probably know for yourself. There was a bunch of cookies there.
The last General Secretary and "first president" sat in the basement in Foros and listened to the Voice of America, I personally understand that there was nothing to expect from such a person.
He still wears his order of Judah, and it is very good that during his lifetime he can appreciate the attitude of his people to himself, to which he was to serve.
Life in the modern world has become more pragmatic and lacks midtones.
Therefore, friends "either with us or against us", there is no other choice. You can not be a little bit pregnant. This also applies to interstate relations.

[Monarchist]

I agree with you: "The destruction of the USSR is a direct cause of negative consequences ...." but with the amendment, not for friendly countries, but for the whole world.
Look at the history when a powerful state is destroyed, the status quo is violated, and this in turn leads to anarchy

[alexmach]

Well, here it’s worth remembering the non-aligned movement. In fact, Yugoslavia was not our military ally in Soviet times. Tito played throughout the well-known 90-2000 game of independent politics between the two worlds.

[Olegovi4]

I agree. when our country perished and was very sick (of course, largely thanks to ourselves) where were all these "brothers and friends"? in those days Russia was on the verge of destruction. what kind of war and aid? they themselves smoldered, and in some places they burned.

[You Vlad]

Yes, we are not to blame for anything! We ourselves at that moment buried our state, and were on the verge of complete disintegration! But I respect Serbs! For they did not betray us! They always need help, they do not forget and do not sell! GDP is not once recalled Yugoslavia, the martyr still west of Yugoslavia!

[OLD FART]

Quote: you Vlad

Yes, we are not to blame for anything! We ourselves at that moment buried our state, and were on the verge of complete disintegration! But I respect Serbs! For they did not betray us! They always need help, they do not forget and do not sell! GDP is not once recalled Yugoslavia, the martyr still west of Yugoslavia!

I hope so ... Every cruise missile launched in the direction of Yugoslavia then exploded in our souls ... And this demonic dance in our "liberal media" in the 90s was terrifying and insulting ...

We were silent then ....

[Terminolol]

Yes, they were silent because they were engaged in their own survival, and the slogan in politics "perish, but help your comrade" does not work.

[You Vlad]

No need to write that we were silent! We were not silent, the situation was catastrophic in the country and in power! We pushed almost all the levers of politics, but we were too weak, and the West knew this, which was what it was claiming. The whole world knows that if Russia were not so weak, Yugoslavia would not dare would not touch anyone, because we would have to answer before us.

[Monarchist]

Starter, you actually confirmed my previous thought, what the violation of the status quo leads to.

[rabbi's pais]

Quote: STARPER

We are to blame before the Serbs for Yugoslavia.

You Meehan, say yes, don't talk, as always. We are not to blame for anything, we do not owe anything to anyone, and we owe everything to us for free blessing! The tragedy of our country is that for the second millennium, the fucking rulers are ready to help everyone, and on us ordinary citizens lay down with the device. Besides, remember what state Russia was in under the Eltsin.

[OLD FART]

Quote: the rabbi's sideboards

The tragedy of our country is that the fucking rulers are ready to help everyone for the second millennium, and ordinary citizens are being laid on us with the device. Besides, remember what state Russia was in under the Eltsin.

I want to disappoint you, .... This is precisely the POWER of Russia! Just imagine for a minute what would have happened in the world if Russia hadn't been there ..? Yes, it is more difficult for us than everyone else and the losses are great in everything ... And yet we are moving towards the goal of a just world community ...
These are the things in our tank divisions ..))))

[rabbi's pais]

Quote: STARPER

what would be happening in the world if it were not for Russia ..?

I don't give a damn about the world without Russia. We are not a guardian angel to harness the whole planet, and for free and with great losses for us.

[OLD FART]

Quote: rabbi's paisas

Quote: STARPER

what would be happening in the world if it were not for Russia ..?

I don't give a damn about the world without Russia. We are not a guardian angel to harness the whole planet, and for free and with great losses for us.

And yet we are running in ... Our Russians have such a nature! We'll give up the last shirt and save the brothers! You see genes ...

[rabbi's pais]

Quote: STARPER

And yet we are running in ... Our Russians have such a nature! We'll give up the last shirt and save the brothers! You see genes ...

Do you think this is normal? Serbs, yes, our brothers love Russians, but no one ever gave us their last shirt. And all this talk about genes and nature is the most natural foolishness. If you want to give something of your own forward, but such psychology to instill in your people is a disaster.

[OLD FART]

Quote: rabbi's paisas

Quote: STARPER

And yet we are running in ... Our Russians have such a nature! We'll give up the last shirt and save the brothers! You see genes ...

Do you think this is normal? Serbs, yes, our brothers love Russians, but no one ever gave us their last shirt. And all this talk about genes and nature is the most natural foolishness. If you want to give something of your own forward, but such psychology to instill in your people is a disaster.

This is how Russia has always lived and maybe that's why Russia exists as a state and not just a "regional power"!
For this they hate us and try to destroy us all the time ... Now the wave is coming again ...! And we will defend Syria in spite of everyone, no matter what it costs us ...

[rabbi's pais]

Quote: STARPER

This is how Russia has always lived and maybe that's why Russia exists as a state and not just a "regional power"!

It's time to change, otherwise we will go without trousers.

[OLD FART]

Quote: rabbi's paisas

Quote: STARPER

This is how Russia has always lived and maybe that's why Russia exists as a state and not just a "regional power"!

It's time to change, otherwise we will go without trousers.

As Bismarck said before ...
"It's better to play fair with the Russians ... They always come back for their money afterwards ..."
Of course, we are far from Israel ... But then we will take all the compensation from them ... FOR EVERYTHING at once!
We are growing and training "lawyers"!

[rabbi's pais]

Aha is noticeable how she comes back for her money.

[OLD FART]

Quote: rabbi's paisas

Aha is noticeable how she comes back for her money.

Money is not the main thing in our business! ...

[Bering Strait]

That would be like that long ago. The US does not give anything for nothing. The USA is doing this, giving something used and demanding to pay for repairs. Stop feeding foreigners for free, at the expense of Russia ...

[Mountain shooter]

Weapons CANNOT be gifted! Even if you give a knife, you ask to give it back, even a small one. Well, we will ask for a decent fee friendship-friendship ...

[Knight Rider]

50 Liamov for 6 fighters is 8,3 million apiece. Consider it a gift. We do not care about these planes, consider them to be written off. I would agree in the place of the Serbs

[parkello]

Serbs want something, but they really have no money, they are the poorest country, especially with regard to the military budget. 50 Lyamas is of course ridiculous money, this is the price of one F-16 Block 52+, but I would advise you to transfer weapons to them even if they cannot immediately collect the required amount of money. now every little thing plays a significant role in relation to states, you can give them not only 6 aircraft, for example, give a couple of air defense systems to the load, and so on for little things. not well, I understand that now a lot of people have to help, most often free of charge, but the Serbs are worth it. Greeks volunteers themselves bought weapons for their own money and went to help the Serbs during the war. I personally know many who fought for the Serbs there, we have a lot of Greeks who studied in Yugoslavia, and then went to help them when the war began. help them as much as you can.

[Olegovi4]

so maybe turn to your leadership, let the Serbs do it? I really did not like yours - help them with whatever you can. just like a pointer. to blame Russia for not providing assistance is at least stupid. and this is where the help of the rest of the "brothers and friends" is. walk and the Greeks? and there were many volunteers from all over the former USSR.

[parkello]

I have not reproached anyone for anything, if you are not able to understand this, this is your minus. As for help, we helped them in every way we could, first of all we asked them what they needed, then we sent them. they said money, they sent money, people were needed and people went, and you can't compare the number of Greeks, where the whole country is 10 million, with those from the former USSR where there were about 300 million people. and I don’t want to remind you, but I have to. These immigrants from the USSR often found themselves on both sides. especially your "non-brothers" who are "non-workers", Azerbajans, Balts, as well as residents of the Russian Federation.

[colonel manuch]

Better to have something capable of fighting than nothing like it is now.

[Banishing liberoids]

And this news ➖. Goodwill, damn it at the expense of the country to give away - modernize yourself and sell it for real money, or send them to Syria - the Syrians have almost no aviation as such.

[Vlad5307]

Quote: Felix99

Russia creates a ring of allies. Very wise.

Why do you think so? Serbia just does not have money for new Euro-American cars, and we have several in the queue for repairs. If they need it quickly, then let them pay for the repairs, and our budget has everything already planned. And they are familiar with the maintenance of such machines, but they still need to master the Western ones, and the costs of buying spare parts ... And there is no union with them yet - all these are paper-patriotic statements, alas.

[rabbi's pais]

Quote: STARPER

Quote: rabbi's paisas

Aha is noticeable how she comes back for her money.

Money is not the main thing in our business! ...

Of course, these are just pieces of paper, dust. Tell your sons so when they ask you to sponsor parties with the girls.

[SOF]

Quote: just EXPL

it’s not necessary to write about the Serbs, if the government there, which the FORCE planted there, doesn’t look very strongly towards Russia, then the people there have always been pro-Russian.
and moreover, even the government that was imposed by FORCE there, and WE are to blame for this, when we allowed NATO to bomb Serbia, and that does not impose sanctions against Russia, although we pressed them very hard.

As the Serbs say: "We are together with the Russians - 200 million." Isn't that so?

[RASKAT]

That came in handy squeezed in the Crimea Mig 29