Military Review

The sky in diamonds

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The US Air Force along with the Navy form the basis of the country's military power. Contrary to popular myths, Americans are able to successfully wage a tough contact struggle on land. But they certainly will not fight, without achieving dominance in the air. Therefore, the development of the Air Force is given extremely great importance, it is this type of aircraft that becomes the center of attraction of major innovations. As a result, the United States can win the war alone with the vast majority of countries in the world aviationwithout involving the fleet and ground forces.


Unlike the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China, where each of the components of the nuclear triad belongs to the Armed Forces, in the United States both strategic bombers and ICBMs are part of the Air Force.

The air force includes 10 command (8 target and 2 territorial) and the National Guard Air Force. The main structural units are air armies (BA), consisting of aircraft wings (acres equivalent to regiments), which in turn are divided into squadrons. Military aircraft, airborne wings and squadrons may not have a single combat aircraft and no weapons at all, but the terms are still used.

Wings with a margin

The Global Strike Command (headquarters - BBB Barksdale, Louisiana) includes both components of the US strategic nuclear forces that are members of the Air Force. The 8-I BA (headquarters - BBB “Barksdale”) are 2, 5, 7, 28, 509-e bomber acres and 576-I flight test squadron. The 20-IА has all of the Minuteman-3 ICBMs (three wings are equipped with them: 90, 91, 341-e) and the 625-th squadron of strategic operations.

Space Command (Peterson, Colorado) includes an aerospace center, a center for the development of space innovations, and two air armies. The 14-I VA has the 614-th Center for Aerospace Operations, 21, 30, 45, 50, 460-e space wings. 24-I VA is responsible for conducting cybernetic and information warfare, having wings: 67-m combat use of information systems, 688-m information operations, 689-m communication.

Combat aviation command (Langley, Virginia) is subordinate to all combat aviation (except for strategic and reserve components), deployed in the main territory of the United States. It consists of four military aircraft, the Centcom Air Force and the Air Force Air Force Combat Development Center. 1-I VA (Tyndall, Florida) does not have combat aircraft. It includes the eastern (Rome, New York) and western (McCord, Washington) sectors of air defense, the 601 th center for aerospace operations, the coordination center for rescue operations, the 722 th air control squadron (deployed in Canada). 9-I BA (Shaw, South Carolina): 1, 4, 20, 325-e fighter acres, 23-e mixed acre, 93-e operations against ground targets, 461-e air control and 633-e air base wing. 12-I VA (Davis-Montan, Arizona): 49, 355, 366, 388, 432-acre, 552-e acre of air control, 557-e acre of weather intelligence. 25-WA (San Antonio, TX): 55-ac, 9, 70, 363, and 480-ac reconnaissance. Air Force Aircraft Operations Development Center (Nellis, Nevada): 53 and 57 acre, 53 group of weapons systems, 98 ground testing and 99 air base, 505 control wings. Centcom Air Force is a number of expeditionary acres located temporarily in the Middle East and Afghanistan.

The air transfer command (Scott, Illinois) includes a center of transfer and one VA, which includes almost all military transport and refueling aircraft. 18-I VA (Scott): 15 and 21-transport expeditionary formations (headquarters structures for organizing actions of the BTA outside the country), 385-I air group (Incirlik, Turkey), 618-th center of aerospace operations, 12 transport and refueling acres (6, 19, 22, 43, 60, 62, 89, 92, 317, 319, 375, 436, 437-e). Including 89-e - "presidential squadron", responsible for the transportation of senior US officials.

The Training Command (San Antonio, Texas), as the name implies, trains Air Force flight and technical personnel. It includes 2 and 19-I, an aviation university, a medical center.

The MTO Command (Wright-Patterson, Ohio) is engaged in the material, technical and scientific support of the Air Force. It includes the research laboratory of the Air Force and 8 centers: aerospace systems, flight tests, support for global transfers, nuclear weapons, security, aircraft, electronic systems, engineering research.

The MTR Command (McDill, Florida) is responsible for the aviation support of special operations of the US Armed Forces. Most of the units are deployed on the Herbbert (Florida) WWB: Air Force Special Operations Center, 361-I intelligence group, 1 and 24 acre. In addition, the MTR command includes 27-e acres, 193-e acres of the National Guard Air Force, 919-e acre reserve air forces, and two MTR air groups abroad: 352-i (Mildenhall, UK) and 353-i (Kadena , Japan).

The command of the Air Force Reserve (Robins, GA) is a kind of “spare Air Force” deployed in the continental United States. Parts of the reserve are constantly operating and undergoing combat training in the same programs as regular ones. Many wings and air groups (agr) of the reserve are "affiliated" with an acre of combat aviation command and air transfer command, equipped with the same aircraft and deployed on the same IAB. In the "spare Air Force" three armies. The 4-I VA (March, California, includes the 16 acre) is a reserve for air transfer command. 10-I VA (Fort Worth, TX, 19 acre and AGR) - reserve for combat aviation command. The 22-I VA (Dobbins, GA, 9 acre) is a reserve for air transfer and MTR commands.

The sky in diamondsThe US Air Force Command in Europe and Africa (Ramstein, Germany) has 3-WA (Ramstein): 31-IAC (Aviano, Italy), 48-IAC (Leikenhit, UK), 52-IAC (Spangdahlem, Germany), 86 acre (Ramstein), 100 acre (Mildenhall, UK), 435 acre operations against land targets (Ramstein), 501 acre combat support (Alconbury, UK), 404-th (Ramstein ) and 449 (Djibouti) African expedition groups, 39 (Incirlik, Turkey) and 65 (Lajees, Azores, Portugal) air base wings, which are s combat equipment.

The command of the US Air Force in the Pacific (Pearl Harbor, Hawaii) is composed of three VA. 5 and 8-i are deployed outside the US, 11-I - in Alaska. In addition, parts of the former 13-VA in Hawaii are directly subordinate to the command headquarters. These are 15-e acre (Pearl Harbor), 13-I expedition group (Pearl Harbor; staff structure without standard equipment), 36-e acre (Andersen, Guam; also purely staff structure), 613-th center of aerospace operations and 613-I support group (Pearl Harbor). 5-I VA (Yokota, Japan): 18-e acre (Kadena, Okinawa, F-15C / D, KC-135R, E-3, HH-60G), 35-e Iraq (Misawa, F-16), 374 acre (Yokota, C-130E, C-12J, UH-1N), 605-th center of aerospace operations (Yokota). 7-I VA (Osan, Republic of Korea): 8-e Iraq (Kunsan, F-16), 51-e acre (Osan, A-10), 607-th Center for Aerospace Operations and 607-I support group (Osan) . 11-I VA (Elmendorf-Richardson, Alaska): 3 acre (Elmendorf, F-22A, E-3B, C-130H, C-12, C-17), 354-e ICR (Eilson, F-16 ), 611-th center of aerospace operations and 611-I support group (Elmendorf-Richardson).

The Air Forces of the National Guard are formally designed to defend the territory of the United States; therefore, in peacetime, the units are subordinate to the state governors. Nevertheless, in reality, they are regularly used in operations abroad, because they are equipped with the same technology and are trained under the same programs as the regular Air Force. The air forces of the NG of each state have between one and five acres and an agr. All in all, 81 acre, 3 communication groups, 1 reconnaissance group, 2 cybernetic operations group, 1 special operations group.

Generation park

The US Air Force has the world's largest number of aircraft of all classes and many types.

In addition to airplanes and helicopters of the regular units, the reserve and the National Guard, a significant number of US Air Force machines are stored at the Davis-Montan base (AMARG - Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group, a group of repair and restoration of aviation and space technology), from which many of them can be returned to service. In the future, for the sake of brevity, these planes and helicopters will be said that they are on AMARG.

The only type of ICBM in the US Air Force is LGM-30 ("Minuteman-3") of mine-based, carrying from one to three nuclear warheads each. They are in service with the 20-VA command of global strikes in the number of 447 units. In addition, there are in storage up to 243 missiles of the same type, which are consumed as tested.

Heavy mine-based ICBMs LGM-118 (MX), capable of carrying 10 warheads each, removed from service. At the same time, there are 56 non-deployed missiles of this type, which are gradually being converted into Minotaur-IV space launch vehicles to launch military satellites.

The basis of the American strategic aviation are B-52H aircraft, each of which carries up to 20 ALCM. 76 bombers of this type are in service, on the AMARG - another 12, as well as 95 airplanes of the previous modification B-52G. Although the last B-52s were released in the 1960 year, they will remain in the US Air Force until the 2040's. More than 52 ALCM AGM-1400B / C / D and more 86 AGM-400A are available for use with B-129H.

The second strategic bomber of the US Air Force - B-2A, built on technology "Stealth". Able to carry nuclear bombs, as well as a variety of conventional weapons. As part of the Air Force 20 aircraft of this type, of which one is used as an experimental.

Strategic bombers B-1B retooled for use in non-nuclear purposes. The system has 62 B-1B, on the AMARG - another 18.

The well-known stealth aircraft F-117 has a fighter designation, but is unable to conduct air combat due to the peculiarities of aerodynamics and the lack of on-board radar. In fact, he is a tactical bomber. 52 F-117A withdrawn from the Air Force, but remain in storage on the VVB "Tonopah" (Nevada) fully operational status and can be quickly returned to service.

In service are the 293 A-10 attack aircraft, on the AMARG - another 103. The location of 57 aircraft of this type is unknown. They may be converted into combat drones. In the future, they are supposed to replace manned attack aircraft.

The command of the SSO has 30 armed transport aircraft (“Ganshipov”) AC-130 (16 U, 12 W, 2 J; on AMARG - more 1 U, 6 H) used in counterguerrilla and special operations.

The F-22А Raptor fighter is currently the only X-Numx generation fighter in the world in regular units. In total, the USAF 5 machines of this type. F-187 was intended to replace the F-22 "Eagle". Currently it remains in service with the X-NUMX F-15 (242 C, 15 – 215 D) fighters, on the AMARG - another 26 (27 A, 166 B, 54 C, 6 D) and the Air Force stored 97 (9 A, 7 B, 3 C). The location of the 2 F-2 (14 A, 15 B) is unknown. In addition, there is a strike version of the F-11 “Strike Eagle” with limited air combat capabilities. In the 3 system of such machines.

The 5 generation fighter, designed to replace the F-16 and A-10 attack aircraft, the F-35. For our own needs, the 1763 sample is supposed to be stamped; however, while the program is far behind schedule, only the 92 F-35А has entered service. Nevertheless, it is the only combat aircraft that is currently being produced for the US Air Force.

The most massive American fighter remains the F-16. Now they are in the line 958 (2 A, 1 B, 797 C, 158 D), on the AMARG - another 517 (248 A, 51 B, 204 C, 14 D). In addition, the 20 F-16 (3 A, 17 C) has been converted to QF-16 targets. It is possible that they can also be used as combat drones. In total it is supposed to be altered in targets 126 F-16А and With early series. The location of the 24 F-16 (23 A, 1 C) is unknown. Apparently, some are converted into targets, combat UAVs, and some are utilized.

On the AMARG, the X-NUMX of the F-169 fighter-bomber and the RF-4 scout "Phantom" of various modifications remain.

As it was said, combat drones should in the future replace at least manned attack aircraft. Now in service with the US Air Force to 150 combat drone MQ-1 "Predator" and 154 MQ-9 "Reaper", the production of the latter continues. However, these machines are able to operate effectively only in the complete absence of an enemy air defense system, so they cannot become full-fledged substitutes for combat aircraft.

In the ranks of the US Air Force 4 VKP E-4В based on "Boeing-747". On AMARG is 14 – 15 EC-135 (VKP based on Boeing-707, which in the Air Force is designated C-135). There are X-NUMX E-47 DRLO airplanes (3 A, 16 B, 20 C, 4 G; based on Boeing-7), and AMARG has 707 E-1G and 3 E-1А. All E-3A formally placed at the disposal of NATO and are conditionally listed for Luxembourg. Legally, these 3 aircraft are the only all-machine machines, the rest of the aircraft belongs to specific countries of the alliance.

As part of the RAF 22 Air Force (RC-135 and RC-26B), 4 - communications and relays (E-11А), 22 - EW (EU-130), some of which can also be used for psychological operations.

For aircraft reconnaissance and surveillance are 36-37 «Beach-350» (MS-12W), 16 E-8S (even 1 on AMARG), 2 E-9A, 28 altitude U-2S and 4 training TU-2S, as well as 2 side of the program "Open Sky" OS-135В (1 more on AMARG). 10 LC-130H are intended for ice reconnaissance, 2 WC-135 and 18 WC-130 for meteorological reconnaissance.

The main tanker of the United States Air Force - based on the Boeing-707 KS-135: 399 vehicles in service (54 T, 345 R), 10 NKC-135 and 174 – 176 KC-135 (51 – 52 A, 4) E, 105 – 14 R) - on AMARG. There are 15 more modern KS-59A (based on DC-10).

The basis of the military transport aircraft of the United States are super-heavy C-5, heavy C-17 and medium C-130. 57 C-5 (5 A, 15 B, 1 C, 36 M), 222 C-17A and 338 C-130 (231 H, 107 J) are currently in service. On AMARG, 53 C-5A and 157 C-130 (21 H, 136 E).

Also in service is the 21 light transport aircraft C-21A (“Flight-35A”, 23 on the AMARG) and 16 C-12С, on the AMARG - 2.

The 2 VC-25A (Air Force One, WKP presidential aircraft based on Boeing 747), 11 C-40 (Boeing 737), 11 C-32 (Boeing -757 "), as well as 12 C-37 and 6 C-20 (two modifications of the Gulfstream passenger aircraft).

The MTR command has foreign-made light transport aircraft: 36 U-28 (Swiss PC-12), 18 C-146 (German Do-328) and 7 C-145А (Polish М-28, also 9 on AMARG). The 60 of the MS-130 airplanes (on the AMARG - another 29 plus three in the storage of the Air Force) are intended for disembarking, supplying and evacuating special forces groups operating in the enemy rear. For rescue purposes, the 33 aircraft HC-130 (on the AMARG - another 16), 102 helicopter HH-60 and 43 convertiplane CV-22В are used.

Training aviation includes 178 T-1A, 504 T-38 of various modifications (on AMARG - also 149), 444 T-6А. The latter come to replace the T-38. In addition, on the AMARG remains the outdated T-80B 37.

The vast majority of US helicopters are in service with ground forces and navy. The Air Force has about 76 UH-1 (up to 11 H, up to 65 N, on the AMARG - another 5 – 6), armed with the MTR command - up to 6 of the Russian Mi-8.

With all this, the number of combat aircraft in the US Air Force is currently the lowest for the period after World War II, and their average age is the largest for all history American aviation. And only F-35А is being produced at the moment, the production program of which is far behind the original schedule, but the price has many times exceeded the originally stated one.

Most of the planes in service were made in 70 – 80-ies. Old ones drop out much faster than new ones arrive. This raises such an unexpected problem as the lack of combat aircraft in the event of a large-scale war. The United States will be forced at any cost (literally and figuratively) to carry out the F-35 program, since there is no alternative. Of course, combat drones will be created, and not only specialized ones.

In any case, in the foreseeable future, serious competition from US aviation will be made up by the Chinese Air Force. There is no decisive superiority in the air and over the Russian Federation.
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  1. demiurg
    demiurg 13 November 2016 06: 51
    +5
    If it’s very tight, then the United States will be able to deploy a new production of f-16, f-15, f / a-18, and raptors. As long as the global war does not bother, they can calmly bring the penguin to mind.
    1. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 13 November 2016 08: 14
      0
      In my opinion it sounds very silly. Suppose the electronics they have is not Asian, let's say they will build gliders themselves too (although the question is where and from what materials), but the engines! engines from where to take something!
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 13 November 2016 09: 04
        +8
        Quote: ShadowCat
        Suppose the electronics they have is not Asian, let's say they will build gliders themselves too (although the question is where and from what materials), but the engines! engines from where to take something!

        Aircraft storage facility in Arizona. A constant dry climate allows you to store canned equipment in the open air without compromising its technical condition. As you can see, they have some stock. You can pull out the plane, carry out the necessary maintenance and send it into battle.
        1. Rurikovich
          Rurikovich 13 November 2016 09: 14
          +3
          One missile with a special unit in the center and the renewable potential will become equal to zero. People will not suffer - the terrain is then deserted .... lol feel Well, it is, hypothetically ... One of the options for solving the problem in one fell swoop winked
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 13 November 2016 09: 23
            +1
            It would be a solution to the problem, but this storage, by the way, is not the only one, decently protected by air defense. The bases are closed to visitors and are well guarded. About five thousand planes are stored at the Davis-Montin base alone, starting with WWII rarities of varying degrees of safety, and ending quite combat-ready.
            1. Rurikovich
              Rurikovich 13 November 2016 09: 34
              +3
              Quote: novobranets
              It would be a solution to the problem, but this storage, by the way, is not the only one, decently protected by air defense.

              Nu-nu ... Something I doubt that in the desert will be deployed air defense guarding the landfill. Yes, so be it, but will it protect against a warhead flying from space at hypersonic speed winked And I am plagued by vague doubts that Aegis systems and anti-missile mines will be deployed around the landfill. laughing Is it an honor to dump unused aircraft wink wassat ?
              1. novobranets
                novobranets 13 November 2016 09: 42
                +1
                This is not a dump, this is a repository. And not far from it there are 18 missile silos. So there is a reason for deploying powerful air defense.
                1. Rurikovich
                  Rurikovich 13 November 2016 10: 31
                  +6
                  Quote: novobranets
                  This is not a dump, this is a repository.

                  No, Vyacheslav, this is a dump. Yes
                  I got acquainted with the storage in the early 90s in the army, when we arrived at the storage base, subordinate to our unit, within 20 minutes we put batteries on the ZIL, started them up and drove off, pumping up tires and not thinking about gasoline, because we were full tanks. And all this was under the roof. Storage - this is even in our part of the car for years under the roof in separate boxes in the filled state, constantly diagnosed and ready to leave.
                  And what is in the open air, and if something, then from a couple of three-piece copies they collect one week and where the quantity at the output does not coincide with the original list, it’s called a dump wink For storage, to immediately use and store, because the old, and recycling requires money - these are two different things hi
                  1. novobranets
                    novobranets 13 November 2016 11: 14
                    +9
                    Well, we need roofs. And in the desert, where almost the same temperature is kept all year round, and where it is raining, this is something from beyond dreams, you can keep it like that. Death Valley is an ideal place to store. Dust off pollen only from above.
                    For storage, to immediately use and store, because the old, and recycling requires money - these are two different things
                    Ama, there is ama. For every dollar invested in this base, they earn 11. Therefore, they have the opportunity to maintain a staff of aviation specialists. One of the storage categories (there are only four) is commercial. Those. airplanes for sale. Transport workers, etc. are in demand. So they are not in poverty. And even if one of three or four is assembled, this is not bad. By the way, another category of donors. And there is a record on which aircraft, which unit is suitable for replacement, so they don’t rush around the gang in search of spare parts, but get on a car and go, knowing exactly where, what, and how much to remove. In my opinion, the organization of labor is not bad. Something useful is not a sin to adopt.
                    1. Rurikovich
                      Rurikovich 13 November 2016 11: 22
                      +1
                      Quote: novobranets
                      And there is a record on which aircraft, which unit is suitable for replacement, so they do not rush around with the whole gang in search of spare parts, but sit on the car and go, knowing exactly where, what and how much to remove. In my opinion, the organization of labor is not bad. Something useful is not a sin to adopt.

                      Well, this place is a supplier of spare parts, I do not argue with that wink But don’t forget that a little dust clogging everywhere is by no means a positive moment, because it is an excellent abrasive and practically brings all exhibits of such storages to a common denominator - almost zero. So they are more suitable for spare parts, but not for quick commissioning in case of need. For this is impossible. And therefore it is a dump with the necessary spare parts wassat
                      1. novobranets
                        novobranets 13 November 2016 11: 31
                        +4
                        No tongue , storage. laughing And here I put a photo there. Take a closer look. All slots, hatches and hatches are sealed, lights, portholes, etc. closed, on the engine covers on all sides, even on the exhaust pipes. Well, about quick entry. It will naturally take some time, but the plane is not ZIL. But, it seems they have worked it out. Short-term storage machines are at a certain degree of readiness, and after a certain period of time they move into the long-term category, it is clear that there will be more fuss with them.
                  2. Dr. Hub
                    Dr. Hub 13 November 2016 13: 35
                    +2
                    But on account of the poor preservation of technology, I bet. Although they are stored in the fresh air, the climate there is suitable for this, plus the equipment is processed from the outside and from the inside. So that fuels and lubricants in the airplane and forward ...
            2. Bongo
              Bongo 14 November 2016 13: 34
              +2
              Quote: novobranets
              It would be a solution to the problem, but this storage, by the way, is not the only one, decently protected by air defense.

              US air defense - it’s only IA, there are practically no air defense systems carrying a permanent database there.
              Quote: novobranets
              The bases are closed to visitors and are well guarded.

              It’s not true, you can sign up for a bus excursion to Davis Montan, as well as a nuclear test site in Nevada.
              In general, there are a number of inaccuracies in the publication, for example:
              there is a strike version of the F-15E "Strike Eagle" with limited capabilities for conducting air combat.
              Let's just say that for the F-15E, the priority is to perform strike missions, but it is wrong to say that it has "limited" capabilities to combat air targets.
              Or more:
              On the AMARG, the X-NUMX of the F-169 fighter-bomber and the RF-4 scout "Phantom" of various modifications remain.
              This information is at least two years old. There are no “Phantoms” suitable for bringing to flight condition in the USA. Since they have all been converted into a QF-4 dual-use UAV. Basically, they are planned to be used as targets, but if necessary, these machines can become a battering ram when breaking through air defense. For this, a PRR suspension is provided.
              1. novobranets
                novobranets 14 November 2016 13: 53
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                [quote = Bongo] It’s not true, you can sign up for a bus excursion to Davis Montan, [/ quote] [quote] The base and cemetery of aircraft are closed to visitors and are well guarded. Near the base there is an open museum of aircraft equipment “Pima Air & Space Museum (English)”, which organizes bus excursions around the base. [/ quote [quote]] US air defense - this is only IA, there are practically no air defense systems carrying a permanent database there. [/ quote] 18 launch mines are not a reason for organizing the corresponding air defense?
                1. Bongo
                  Bongo 14 November 2016 14: 22
                  +1
                  Quote: novobranets
                  Near the base there is an open museum of aircraft equipment “Pima Air & Space Museum (English)”, which organizes bus excursions around the base.

                  Vyacheslav, here you are contradicting yourself. At the same time declare that "closed" and "organizes bus tours". By the way, in a number of places of the airbase the bus stops and, under the supervision of guides, it is allowed to photograph and even touch individual planes in storage at close range.
                  Quote: novobranets
                  18 launch pits are not an occasion for the organization of appropriate air defense?

                  I apologize, but what does this have to do with it? It is a historical fact that the United States currently protected only by fighters. Or do you disagree with this?
                  1. novobranets
                    novobranets 14 November 2016 14: 34
                    +1
                    Quote: Bongo
                    Or do you disagree with this?

                    To be honest, I’m not in the subject, but I’m not sure that the states have fixed all the stationary air defense posts. As for excursions, going out is allowed only in a few, strictly designated places where rarities lie, beyond the boundaries of these places, no-no. Patrols are constantly moving around the base, catching extreme lovers who are trying to illegally get into the territory. Someone for repeated creeps even sat down for a year or two. Well, so did we, there were excursions of journalists to some secret places, this does not mean that admission there is free. hi
                    1. Bongo
                      Bongo 14 November 2016 14: 46
                      +2
                      Quote: novobranets
                      To be honest, I’m not in the subject, but I’m not sure that the states have fixed all the stationary air defense posts.

                      I am in the "topic", please read, although this publication is more than 2 years old, but nothing has changed in the US air defense since then.
                      US Air Defense

                      Quote: novobranets
                      As for excursions, going out is allowed only in a few, strictly designated places where rarities lie, beyond the boundaries of these places, no-no.

                      Of course, but nevertheless, tours are carried there.
                      Quote: novobranets
                      Well, so did we, there were excursions of journalists to some secret places, this does not mean that admission there is free.

                      Vyacheslav, we both perfectly understand that there are no journalists at truly secret facilities.
                      1. novobranets
                        novobranets 14 November 2016 16: 45
                        0
                        Quote: Bongo
                        there are no journalists at truly secret sites.

                        So that base is not secret, that's why they lead excursions. But anyone who wants to get there will not get there, all the same the military base. Agree that in case of war, (God forbid, of course) this "scrap metal" stored in proper form can become a strategic reserve.
          2. demiurg
            demiurg 13 November 2016 09: 56
            +4
            Quote: Rurikovich
            One missile with a special unit in the center and the renewable potential will become equal to zero. People will not suffer - the terrain is then deserted .... lol feel Well, it is, hypothetically ... One of the options for solving the problem in one fell swoop winked


            One special warhead, and the Air Force will not be needed. ICBMs will start to fight. And the blow becomes a waste of special warheads. So the dilemma is clear hi
            1. Rurikovich
              Rurikovich 13 November 2016 10: 24
              +1
              Quote: demiurg
              One special warhead, and the Air Force will not be needed. ICBMs will start to fight.

              Well, we are purely hypothetically wink
              1. demiurg
                demiurg 13 November 2016 10: 45
                +2
                Quote: Rurikovich

                Well, we are purely hypothetically wink


                I see no reason to spend money on arsenals, mines and air bases. Although according to Norfolk, so that the toad does not press me, you can stir up the heels of near-surface explosions.
                Remove all cities millionaires from the map, each with ground after the explosion, and the war itself will end. Mob will not be.
                1. AFHENOGEN
                  AFHENOGEN 13 November 2016 17: 49
                  0
                  After the destruction of cities nothing more is needed.
                  The population itself will go around the suburbs and eat their own kind with their weapons. Or are you wrong?
        2. Shadowcat
          Shadowcat 13 November 2016 09: 27
          0
          Quote: novobranets
          You can pull out the plane, carry out the necessary maintenance and send it into battle.

          It was said that they already had experience - it took about six months to collect one from several.
          But here referring to this info http://judgesuhov.livejournal.com/123804.html
          for 2015 they counted by satellite photo: F-16 - 476; F-15 - 179; F-18-103; A-10 - 96; C-5B - 47; E-2 - 30; B-1B - 17; B-52-12; S-3 - 94
          Not so much.
          By the way, I found an interesting article about the maneuvers of the Su-27UB Sun F-15D
          http://judgesuhov.livejournal.com/258472.html

          Yes, we have storage depots for military equipment.
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 13 November 2016 09: 51
            +1
            Quote: ShadowCat
            It was said that they already had experience - it took about six months to collect one from several.

            Each aircraft arriving for storage at the Davis-Monten base is thoroughly inspected, weapons and secret equipment are dismantled from it, and the fuel systems are drained and pumped with oil.
            The special staff of aircraft technicians, about 500 people, monitors machines of the short-term storage category, i.e. airplanes, for the restoration of combat readiness of which a minimum expenditure of funds and time is required.
            1. Shadowcat
              Shadowcat 13 November 2016 09: 55
              0
              http://judgesuhov.livejournal.com/34512.html
              In order to lift a bomber decommissioned seven years ago into the air, It took a long repair, which took several months.
              In practice, the US Air Force is the first time that the B-52 bomber returns to service after it has been decommissioned. The reason for this step was the need to replace a similar vehicle, which suffered from a fire at an air base, and which would cost more to repair than a decommissioned aircraft.

              This is how it appears in combat operations "Right now, wait six months, we will carry out repairs ..."
        3. basmach
          basmach 13 November 2016 11: 58
          +1
          But there is one big BUT. No airplane will fly by itself. Not only a pilot is needed (which even for this technique must be not only found in sufficient quantities, but also prepared), but also a huge number of technical staff. To make it clearer, on 12 aircraft of the squadron there are about 40 people of engineering staff, not counting the same OBATO, ABOUT RTS.
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 14 November 2016 13: 58
            0
            About 500 snouts of aviation specialists enough?
        4. Asadullah
          Asadullah 15 November 2016 02: 09
          +2
          You can pull out the plane, carry out the necessary maintenance and send it into battle.


          It is impossible. The board should fly off after storage the prescribed number of hours, break-in service mechanisms. The second point, who will fly? Everyone knows about the downed plywood hawk in Yugoslavia, but not everyone knows about the losses of Achy, after which their combat operation in Yugoslavia was stopped. And so it turns out, in today's philosophy of the US war, one side lost in battle is unacceptable losses. The third point, the quality of the flight crew, which has noticeably darkened and is very annoying with discipline. Refusal of flights with a nod to the letter of the contract is a common thing. That is, undoubted industrial power, the ability to quickly build up parks and at the same time low motivation to fight in foreign territory, the inability to circumvent modern air defense, legal incidents caused by short-sighted social policies.

          The war in Iraq fully showed the ability of the United States in a modern war, 8000 deserters for 4000 killed. This is almost complete domination in the air and in a coalition with 39 countries. For four years of active b \ d, the entire coalition lost only 14 aircraft. If we take the combat losses of the United States, then these are only three sides struck by air defense systems - A-10, F-15 and AB-8. The remaining losses were not combat. More than a hundred helicopters were lost, but the specifics there are different. Even these three sides in the first year of the invasion caused real indignation of the flight crew. Now imagine the loss of ten sides a day, when trying to invade the Russian Federation? That is why in the USA, emphasis has been placed on the Kyrgyz Republic to exclude the human factor. They do not want to fight, they want to beat. And you can beat only the weak.
      2. demiurg
        demiurg 13 November 2016 09: 54
        0
        Quote: ShadowCat
        In my opinion it sounds very silly. Suppose the electronics they have is not Asian, let's say they will build gliders themselves too (although the question is where and from what materials), but the engines! engines from where to take something!

        There is money, engines can be bought anywhere. You can deploy production at home.
        Do not forget, they do not need foundations for the plant, heat is also not needed, only electricity and water. They will build half a year if desired from scratch.
        An industrial zone is being built near my village, a foundation is being laid in spring, in October, equipment is brought into the warm workshop under the snow. In the open field. From the benefits of civilization, asphalt to the construction site, railway tracks and electricity.
        1. Shadowcat
          Shadowcat 13 November 2016 10: 06
          0
          Quote: demiurg
          There is money, engines can be bought anywhere

          Considering the situation of hostilities, I do not think that "anywhere" will be possible. all the more so as opponents will in every way interfere with supplies.

          Quote: demiurg
          You can deploy production at home.

          I agree. Can. But what is needed for this? In addition to water and electricity, machines will be required, specialists who can and can work on these machines will be required, material is also needed. In general, at least six months to start production at full capacity will go away, I think.
          But again, the opponent will sit like that and do nothing ?;)
          1. demiurg
            demiurg 13 November 2016 10: 17
            +1
            Quote: ShadowCat

            I agree. Can. But what is needed for this? In addition to water and electricity, machines will be required, specialists who can and can work on these machines will be required, material is also needed. In general, at least six months to start production at full capacity will go away, I think.
            But again, the opponent will sit like that and do nothing ?;)

            And who is the opponent against whom the mobilization of industry will be needed? belay
            Not with China, nor with Russia there will be no war. For a lot of ICBMs and other cruise missiles + unaccountable nuclear weapons. For any other country, what is available is enough.

            And their reserves are not only for aircraft


            The plant can be bought as a whole, in a difficult case with staff. There would be money.
            1. Rurikovich
              Rurikovich 13 November 2016 11: 06
              +2
              Quote: demiurg
              And their reserves are not only for aircraft


              What, in addition to Norfolk, are you suggesting that you break into Bremerton? wink So there, too, antiquities await their fate, and even not atomic, but with a PSU (two types of "Forrestal" and two types of "Kitty Hawk". So they generally need to be presented in a presentable form for more than one year lol
              1. demiurg
                demiurg 13 November 2016 11: 15
                +1
                Quote: Rurikovich

                What, in addition to Norfolk, are you suggesting that you break into Bremerton? wink So there, too, antiquities await their fate, and even not atomic, but with a PSU (two types of "Forrestal" and two types of "Kitty Hawk". So they generally need to be presented in a presentable form for more than one year lol

                If there is no Midway or Coral Sea, then you can. I liked them. laughing
                And they are not there :)) So it is possible.
                1. Rurikovich
                  Rurikovich 13 November 2016 12: 12
                  +1
                  Quote: demiurg
                  And they are not there :)) So it is possible.

                  laughing Midway is a museum in San Diego, and Coral Sea and Franklin D. Roosevelt have already gone on paper clips Yes
                  1. demiurg
                    demiurg 13 November 2016 12: 20
                    0
                    Quote: Rurikovich

                    laughing Midway is a museum in San Diego, and Coral Sea and Franklin D. Roosevelt have already gone on paper clips Yes

                    But I wonder why they were kept in service until 2000? Because of the armor belt and deck?
                    1. Rurikovich
                      Rurikovich 13 November 2016 12: 33
                      +1
                      Quote: demiurg
                      But I wonder why they were kept in service until 2000?

                      They were not kept until 2000. "Midway" was decommissioned immediately after the Gulf War in 1992 and put on a joke, where he waited for a museum fate. And the other two were removed from service even earlier. And the point is the ongoing modernization. Midway received the equipment and electronics that allowed him to use it until the early 90s. The rest were deprived of this advantage. And since large ships are durable (especially the military), so the Midway lasted so long. And do not forget about operating costs - no matter how much America churns out its tugriks, the budget is still not rubber. Therefore, only nuclear-powered aircraft carriers were left in service. By the way, the photo is already outdated. wink - There is only one Independence left in Bremerton (such as Forrestal), the rest have already been dismantled this year Yes .And in Philadelphia there was only "Kennedy" (like "Kitty Hawk"), "America" ​​went to the formation of an artificial reef on the ocean floor, and the other two of this type are already paper clips, needles and pins ... winked
            2. Odysseus
              Odysseus 13 November 2016 14: 38
              +1
              Quote: demiurg
              Not with China, nor with Russia there will be no war. For a lot of ICBMs and other cruise missiles + unaccountable nuclear weapons. For any other country, what is available is enough.

              You are right. The PRC will try to decompose from within (like the USSR) and exhaust in local conflicts the hands of satellites. Russia will be forced to submit to sanctions and pressure through the oligarchs.
              For all other capabilities, the Air Force is more than enough.
    2. Su24
      Su24 13 November 2016 11: 52
      +1
      And this Khramchikhin also claims that China poses the main threat to Russia)

      Quote: demiurg
      If it’s very tight, then the United States will be able to deploy a new production of f-16, f-15, f / a-18, and raptors. As long as the global war does not bother, they can calmly bring the penguin to mind.


      They did not curtail the production of these machines. F-18s are manufactured at the Boeing plant in St. Louis for the Navy. F-15 and F-16 have export orders from the Saudis and Oman.
      1. demiurg
        demiurg 13 November 2016 11: 56
        0
        Quote: Su24

        They did not curtail the production of these machines. F-18s are manufactured at the Boeing plant in St. Louis for the Navy. F-15 and F-16 have export orders from the Saudis and Oman.

        It seems like the question of closing production 16/18. But the bottom line is that with money, production can dramatically increase.
  2. kuz363
    kuz363 13 November 2016 07: 36
    +8
    "The United States does not have a decisive air superiority over the Russian Federation." After listing all the capabilities of US aviation, this author's conclusion is completely unexpected. It is not clear what it is based on. Air Force In 2016, the US Air Force surpasses the Russian Federation in total quantitative terms by about 4 times. And 2 times in the number of combat aircraft in operation; And this is called "there is no decisive superiority !? Well, if Russia were ahead of the United States in avionics quality! But no sane readers think so, if some of the electronic components are simply not produced in Russia, but are produced abroad through third companies?"
    1. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 13 November 2016 08: 20
      +4
      Given the classic alignment of 2-3 to 1mu during the assault, the issue is debatable. Again, air defense is not only planes, but also ground troops, and here Russia is beyond competition, even according to the recognition of our foreign partners (so as not to throw caps).
      Plus, the issue of the strategy for using aviation will all depend.

      Quote: kuz363
      But none of the sensible readers think so, if some of the electronic components are simply not produced in Russia, and through third firms mined abroad?

      For example?

      Quote: kuz363
      Well, if Russia was ahead of the USA in the quality of avionics!

      A worn-out topic, but if we take the simulation battles of our and bourgeois planes, then for some reason ours (and these are far from new Dryers 3x) come out victorious in smaller numbers. Whether this can be considered superior in avionics or not, I do not know.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 13 November 2016 08: 59
        0
        Quote: ShadowCat
        even by the recognition of our foreign partners (so as not to throw caps).
        And can you find quotes from these people, links to their words? And then this statement often came across to me without specific instructions. Would be curious hi
        1. Shadowcat
          Shadowcat 13 November 2016 09: 36
          +1
          maneuvers of the Su-27UB sun F-15D http://judgesuhov.livejournal.com/258472.html

          Hope the bourgeois don't worry
          http://rbth.com/blogs/continental_drift/2015/11/0
          3 / defending-australia-why-the-sukhoi-is-a-better-
          option_536443
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt 13 November 2016 09: 47
            +1
            This is understandable, but articles about airplanes, and where are the statements from our partners that
            Quote: ShadowCat
            Air defense is not only aircraft, but also ground troops, and here Russia is beyond competition
            .
      2. Professor
        Professor 13 November 2016 09: 11
        +6
        Quote: ShadowCat
        Given the classic alignment of 2-3 to 1mu during the assault

        What place does this apply to aviation?
      3. Lukich
        Lukich 13 November 2016 09: 29
        0
        Quote: ShadowCat
        for some reason, ours (and these are far from new Dryers 3x) come out as winners in a smaller number

        Kharchevsky did not suffer more than one defeat. and in their territory.
        https://rg.ru/2007/08/10/reg-chernoz/harchevskiy.
        html

        https://www.google.ru/search?client=opera&q=как+х
        Archevsky + conducted + training + battles + in + usa & sourceid = ope
        ra & ie = UTF-8 & oe = UTF-8

        http://www.airwar.ru/history/locwar/xussr/su_figh
        t / su_fight.html
        1. Shadowcat
          Shadowcat 13 November 2016 09: 57
          0
          Led similar a little higher
          1. Lukich
            Lukich 13 November 2016 10: 03
            0
            Quote: ShadowCat
            Led similar a little higher

            I'm sorry, but in what language? the site seems to be RUSSIAN.
            1. Shadowcat
              Shadowcat 13 November 2016 10: 07
              0
              maneuvers of the Su-27UB sun F-15D http://judgesuhov.livejournal.com/258472.html
              tutochki all Russian in white with proofs.
    2. savage1976
      savage1976 13 November 2016 09: 17
      +1
      Do not forget that for Russia the transfer and concentration of the air force will be carried out safely, over its controlled territory and during the day, although all combat-ready aircraft can be transferred to the military air forces. For the United States, the transfer of aviation involves flights through the uncontrolled spaces of the Atlantic and the Pacific Ocean, through the territories of other states, and for their concentration on TVD it will be necessary to carry out almost round-the-world flight. And this is a long, difficult and heavy load on the flight resource. So the preponderance of 2-3 times just for the case of Russia is not a problem.
    3. Lukich
      Lukich 13 November 2016 09: 22
      0
      Quote: kuz363
      It is not clear what it is based on. Air Force In 2016, the US Air Force surpasses the Russian Federation in total quantitative terms by about 4 times. And 2 times the number of combat aircraft in operation;

      so after all, almost all of this is beyond a large puddle. and we are at home and everything is at hand. and they still need to deliver it all to Europe and not the fact that all this will get safely.
  3. Delink
    Delink 13 November 2016 08: 03
    0
    For every ..op there is .... with a screw. And there is a government on these.
  4. Professor
    Professor 13 November 2016 09: 09
    +5
    In the photo to the article of the aircraft of the Republic of Korea, not the US Air Force.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 November 2016 11: 33
    +1
    Didn't anyone know that most of the aviation WILL NOT BE USED in the event of a big war? If missiles fly, it will be a "general Blackout", with almost no programmable outcome. wassat
    All these calculations are for limited, local wars with an adversary who has NO nuclear weapons and adequate air defense equipment. I would not compare OUR and Amerian aviation in any way; in the sky they WILL NOT KNOW.
  6. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 13 November 2016 11: 54
    +3
    novobranets,
    Quote: novobranets
    No-tongue, repository. laughing But I put a photo there. Take a closer look. All slots, hatches and hatches are sealed, lights, portholes, etc. closed, on the engine covers on all sides, even on the exhaust pipes. Well, about quick entry

    Okay, let there be storage, but for me it’s still a dump tongue
    Quote: novobranets
    But, it seems they have worked it out. Short-term storage machines are at a certain degree of readiness, and after a certain period of time they move into the long-term category, it is clear that there will be more fuss with them.

    That's why it is necessary to allocate a warhead so that there was nothing to restore and there was nowhere to take spare parts wink soldier
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 13 November 2016 12: 02
      +2
      Quote: Rurikovich
      That's why it is necessary to allocate a warhead so that there was nothing to restore and there was nowhere to take spare parts

      And no one. hi
    2. demiurg
      demiurg 13 November 2016 18: 23
      +1
      Quote: Rurikovich

      That's why it is necessary to allocate a warhead so that there was nothing to restore and there was nowhere to take spare parts wink soldier

      And if you explode this warhead near the ground in a megalopolis, then the meaning in the restoration of aircraft is lost.
      Air explosions, this is pampering. After a couple of weeks, you can disassemble debris in respirators.
      And if the explosion is near the ground, then all the equipment in a very large radius of 40-50 years will glow at night (well, almost).
      And the inhabitants, although they survive, will be without food, water, throw themselves at each other dropping limbs.
      That's generally not until the assembly of aircraft will be.
  7. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 13 November 2016 14: 26
    0
    Quote: professor
    In the photo to the article of the aircraft of the Republic of Korea, not the US Air Force.

    And all this has long been under the gun, so such photos are not an argument, and massive raids are possible only in the sky of African tribes! winked
  8. Operator
    Operator 13 November 2016 18: 26
    0
    AMARG is not a storage base - it is a burial ground.

    Of the units there, only airplanes in service can be raised at best, and only if there are enough spare parts (including by dismantling other aircraft). The commissioning time of each unit is several months.

    Aircraft taken out of service, and, accordingly, from the production of spare parts engines, consumables and liquids, electronic components, and the training of maintenance technicians, will never fly into the air.

    An exception to the rule is F-117, which are stored in full combat readiness, but subject to the reconstruction of spare parts production from scratch and the training of maintenance technicians from scratch for 1,5-2 years.
  9. guzik007
    guzik007 13 November 2016 19: 12
    0
    All these storages of military equipment, in my amateur opinion, are nothing more than a bluff, because, no matter how the glider is ideally preserved, it will take even a couple of hours to reanimate it, but it will be needed. And given the amount of reserved equipment and the flight time, something, even taking into account the non-priority goal (the last number in a long line), I would not count on all this.
    In a medium-scale war, yes, it is a reserve. But not on the scale of the Third World ...
  10. Olezhek
    Olezhek 13 November 2016 19: 56
    0
    Contrary to popular myths, Americans are able to successfully wage a tough contact struggle on land.


    Where did this take place when?
    Tell us about the major victories gained by the US Army. (Toko is not about General Grant)
    1. Igool
      Igool 14 November 2016 00: 10
      0
      The US Army does not use in combat operations. Everywhere only special forces are used.
  11. uskrabut
    uskrabut 14 November 2016 13: 26
    0
    Thanks to the author for a sort of excursion into the US Air Force fleet. Yes, they have airplanes like dirt! Yes, and the old ones are in storage. It is interesting, but in Russia there are airplanes on conservation, or did they dispose of everything ??
  12. Estrendor
    Estrendor 15 November 2016 04: 29
    0
    Contrary to popular myths, Americans are able to successfully wage a tough contact struggle on land. But they certainly will not fight, without achieving dominance in the air.


    Of course I'm sorry - but the first sentence contradicts the second. Hard contact wrestling on land assumes approximately equal strength and quantity. And this indicates a changeable atmosphere in the air. And if during periods when the air is dominated by enemy aircraft, the US ground forces "will not" fight, then they are not capable of any tough contact struggle. And vice versa, of course.
    1. g.wise
      g.wise 15 November 2016 15: 04
      0
      Only in Hollywood! Americans generally do not know how to fight without aviation support, they sit in holes and wait for aviation!
  13. g.wise
    g.wise 15 November 2016 15: 00
    0
    The Americans do not know how to fight without air support, their operations are carried out only after the air defense areas are cleared by aviation, not paying attention to the civilian population, and if it suddenly turns out that the aviation is no longer there and their commandos are fighting back, then the air is complete hysteria. And the last phrase "The USA does not have a decisive air superiority and over the Russian Federation." Is very correct, because it will not happen! Modern means of electronic warfare adopted by our Army will turn off all aviation and amerikosov and NATO!