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Media: the arrival of "Admiral Kuznetsov" forced the militants in Aleppo to seek compromises

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The arrival of the Russian aircraft carrier group in the Mediterranean is forcing terrorists, surrounded in eastern Aleppo, to seek salvation, according to News with reference to a Syrian military source.


Media: the arrival of "Admiral Kuznetsov" forced the militants in Aleppo to seek compromises


So far, neither Russian nor Syrian aviation blows to fighters in Aleppo does not inflict. However, the strengthening of the Russian contingent, apparently, forced them to seek compromise solutions.

“Recently, terrorists in Aleppo have begun to initiate a truce. We associate this with the arrival of the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft-carrying cruiser in the Mediterranean Sea and the information that has appeared about its readiness to strike at the positions of the militants with Caliber missiles. In general, it can be stated that the terrorists are demoralized, ”said a source.

In turn, the Syrian expert in the field of strategy and geopolitics Hassan Hassan drew attention to the fact that all attempts to change the balance of forces on the battlefield did not lead to anything.

“They can't do anything. The pressure on terrorists is only increasing, and therefore they gradually come to understand the reality of what is happening, which pushes them to proposals to hold negotiations. However, not only and not so much them as their foreign sponsors. In the West, they realize that they can’t provide any support to their proteges True, it cannot be excluded that, in making proposals for holding negotiations on a truce, the extremists, just as they did last time, just want to take a breather and regroup, ”the expert said.

The newspaper reminds that earlier the Ansar al-Din and the Levant Corps factions proposed the holding of truce negotiations in Aleppo.

“In order to save the lives of thousands of Muslims, we express our readiness to participate in peace negotiations with a view to a cease-fire, subject to the availability of guarantees from the Russian leadership, the United Nations and authorized representatives of the governments of Saudi Arabia and Turkey”, - said in a joint statement of extremists.
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  1. VSZMK
    VSZMK 11 November 2016 11: 57
    +9
    subject to a guarantee from the Russian leadership, the UN and authorized representatives of the governments of Saudi Arabia and Turkey

    And they didn't even remember the main "peacekeepers" ?!
    1. Temples
      Temples 11 November 2016 12: 03
      +36
      Strengthen the videoconferencing group in Syria in one day.
      Kuznetsov did not go there to strengthen. It is a fact. So it will solve the tasks regardless of the reaction of local and American barmaley.
      I think the main goal was the transition itself. Demonstration of combat readiness.
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 11 November 2016 12: 29
        +6
        Quote: Temples
        I think the main goal was the transition itself. Demonstration of combat readiness.

        And the air group on the Kuz just updated ...
        1. Temples
          Temples 11 November 2016 12: 53
          +4
          You will remember how long it took to withdraw part of the group from Syria. And think how long it takes to gain. Without transferring Kuznetsova and his comrades across half the world. Remember how long it took to deliver the S-400.
      2. kapitan92
        kapitan92 11 November 2016 12: 44
        +17
        Quote: Temples
        I think the main goal was the transition itself. Readiness demonstration

        Readiness of what ??? During his biography, the ship stood at the pier more and was under repair than was in the seas and oceans in combat service. According to the basics of naval theory, aircraft carriers never act alone, but always as part of an aircraft carrier strike group (AUG). In this case, the aircraft carrier is the core of the group. The AUG may include one aircraft carrier, 8-10 security ships (for example, multipurpose nuclear submarines - 2, cruisers - 2, destroyers - 2-3, frigates - 2-3) and support vessels.
        Our ship carrier group does not reach the AUG with the greatest and unbridled imagination. Even if our latest patrol ship, Yaroslav the Wise, joins her. Under the conditions of a combat situation, the only domestic aircraft carrier will become easy prey for a potential enemy, because it is simply impossible to ensure its combat stability with the available force and equipment. And not once in the entire biography of Kuznetsov did such a group form.
        Gathered ALL that is and sent. The main thing is to get home on your own. Sad but true!
        1. Temples
          Temples 11 November 2016 12: 48
          +11
          Sad thoughts in your head. But these are your problems. You yourself have come up with some kind of fairy tales and take off live. You are not Hans-Christian and not Alexander Sergeevich. They wrote good tales, and you have dullness and gloom. Leave it all to yourself. smile
          1. kapitan92
            kapitan92 11 November 2016 13: 15
            +7
            Quote: Temples
            Sad thoughts in your head.

            Nothing to rejoice about. Gigantomania of thoughts and projects, but in fact a naked priest.
            Quote: Temples
            You yourself have come up with some kind of fairy tales and take off live.

            Fairy tales are told to us on TV and in the program "Polygon", but with the surface fleet it's just a disaster.
            Six months later, "Kuzya" will be on the capital, so what !? For two years the old men of the Atlant project will be showing the flag.
            Quote: Temples
            grayness and despondency. Leave it all to yourself.

            Drabness and despondency, dear, appear when you begin to compare (in fact) the presence of combat-ready ships of the Russian Federation with the fleets of a potential enemy.
            It’s time to learn from the Chinese !!!
            Raise the "biography" of "Kuzi" and smile, it will become easier!
        2. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 11 November 2016 13: 07
          0
          Quote: kapitan92
          Even if our latest patrol ship, Yaroslav the Wise, joins her

          if you have anything to do with the navy, you should know that the Yarik was transferred to the navy in 2009, not the "newest" one already ... the new ICRs are completely different .-. "admirals ..."
          1. kapitan92
            kapitan92 11 November 2016 13: 32
            +3
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            transferred to the fleet in 2009, -not the "latest" already ... the new TFRs are completely different .-. "admirals ..."

            Try to list how many since 2009 the Navy has received TFR and about "admirals .." in more detail.
            Fingers of one hand is enough?
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 12 November 2016 05: 44
              0
              are we talking about the new TFR, or about the fingers? What do you mean about the “admirals?” “Grigorovich” in the ranks, “Essen” in “state vehicles” - did they not know what?
              1. kapitan92
                kapitan92 12 November 2016 10: 10
                +4
                Quote: Andrew Y.
                are we talking about the new TFR, or about the fingers? What do you mean about the “admirals?” “Grigorovich” in the ranks, “Essen” in “state vehicles” - did they not know what?

                Dear Andrey Yurievich! You are almost a field marshal and should know that a specific question requires a specific answer. Said "A" say "B". Well, what have you dug up: "Grigorovich" "Essen", but about your "admirals" were blown away ??? Now divide ALL THIS by the number of fleets and get almost a fig.
                At the same time, you can sit on the couch in the warmth, be a patriot and tell fairy tales to everyone. fellow
        3. LastLap
          LastLap 11 November 2016 19: 16
          +1
          It’s all like that, but ... attack the undersound of a NUCLEAR country, how to play Russian roulette with, for example, PM. Guaranteed issuance of a residence permit in a cemetery, moreover with a continent of residence. Like they lived happily and died on the same day .... all !!!
      3. Titsen
        Titsen 11 November 2016 16: 36
        0
        Quote: Temples
        I think the main goal was the transition itself. Demonstration of combat readiness.


        Will it go back to the North or to the Crimea?

        Far to the North ...
    2. Scoun
      Scoun 11 November 2016 12: 05
      +2
      Quote: VSZMK
      subject to a guarantee from the Russian leadership, the UN and authorized representatives of the governments of Saudi Arabia and Turkey

      And they didn't even remember the main "peacekeepers" ?!

      so these specifically designated their sponsors, Saudis and Turks.
      the Front Ansar ed-Din and Levant Corps factions are their lair ... and the nusra and igil will be asked for the US presence.
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 11 November 2016 12: 07
      +6
      If "Kuzya" still gives in to the haze, then the terrorists will run away altogether. laughing
      1. Terrible_L.
        Terrible_L. 11 November 2016 12: 21
        +2
        Quote: siberalt
        If "Kuzya" still gives in to the haze, then the terrorists will run away altogether. laughing

        Why is everyone attached to these smokes? have you heard about the "smoke sauna"? just a photo session with a bath day on TAKRE coincided)
        1. twincam
          twincam 11 November 2016 12: 25
          +3
          don’t say)))
          the brain of such commentators is 8-bit, probably nothing else is generated)))
          1. AVA77
            AVA77 11 November 2016 13: 00
            +1
            Not analog on lamps laughing
            1. Mestny
              Mestny 12 November 2016 16: 26
              -1
              Come on.
              They write that everyone has an octa-core oiphone. Maybe in my head?
    4. Terrible_L.
      Terrible_L. 11 November 2016 12: 11
      +1
      Quote: VSZMK
      subject to a guarantee from the Russian leadership, the UN and authorized representatives of the governments of Saudi Arabia and Turkey

      And they didn't even remember the main "peacekeepers" ?!

      So the main peacekeepers threatened to unscrew their heads with their lures
  2. the most important
    the most important 11 November 2016 11: 58
    +1
    If this is true, then this fact is the answer to the question about the need for Russian aircraft carriers!
    1. Temples
      Temples 11 November 2016 12: 08
      +6
      A year ago, aircraft were transferred to Syria without aircraft carriers. Faster and cheaper. The presence of bases in Syria is more important.
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 11 November 2016 14: 54
        0
        Moreover, there is much more benefit from aviation with Khmeimi than from Cousin Aviation, which, in addition, is not sharpened for attacking ground targets.
        The general title of the article is erroneous, the militants, if they began to look for compromises, it was not because of Kuzi. Kuzya there must scare completely different "our partners".
    2. Zibelew
      Zibelew 11 November 2016 12: 09
      +4
      "Fleet in being", gentlemen, "Fleet in being" ...
      Even if in the end, nothing noisy happens, and the terrorists and their advisers in the Pentagon are well aware of the likelihood of what might happen ... And so, it's time to end the story of the militants in Aleppo. It is necessary to complete everything that has been started, and not to spread the expectation of what is unknown by the days of the week. Yanukovych also waited, not allowing to close the Maidan by force. How did this end? Our military should be given the opportunity to do everything quickly, as long as there is an opportunity. Then it can disappear in a heap of treaties and agreements that, as always, will not be executed by the other side ... Not for the first time, we know.
    3. avt
      avt 11 November 2016 12: 12
      +3
      Quote: the most important
      If this is true,

      laughing laughing And to think about WHAT and HOW has changed at the front of the outer ring of the environment ?? With particular attention to who did this? bully So despite the fact that aircraft carriers are needed, it is enough to look at the map of Russia and check out the coastline and its infrastructure.
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 11 November 2016 13: 51
      +3
      Quote: the most important
      Recently, terrorists in Aleppo have come forward with armistice initiatives

      This without transitions was obvious. But there is no shipyard for construction yet.
      Recently, terrorists in Aleppo have come forward with armistice initiatives

      No truces. Finish and cleanse Aleppo completely, and then take Idlib. Enough of these truces, after which, the ranks of dushmans replenished with fresh forces and weapons.
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 November 2016 11: 59
    +3
    Of course scary. No matter how tempting, but not everyone wants to "go to the houris" immediately. And there are more and more chances of becoming martyrs, no prospects. And then America can turn its back ...
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 11 November 2016 12: 33
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And then America can turn its back ...

      The current US administration needs to finish everything before taking over Trump, so to speak, to hide the ends in the water, because it may open that they have a stigma in the fluff, and no one wants to go to court. Very lively diplomatic work in all directions will soon be visible.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 November 2016 11: 59
    +14
    They were invited to leave Alepo, they refused. What kind of negotiations to delay the time can we talk about? Only destroy and the faster the better.
  5. WKS
    WKS 11 November 2016 11: 59
    +10
    Today there was news that Obama gave the command to shoot the leadership of Nusra. He decided not to hide the ends so that they wouldn’t blurt out too much after his departure.
    1. jovanni
      jovanni 11 November 2016 12: 19
      +4
      Well, shooting is just the tip of their problem. Worse, Trump, as a business man, will immediately request a report on cabbage. Here is the barrack now and began to stir up urgently. Forecasters set him up, relaxed. Now he has little time to sniff the ends. And the babosy barmaley probably already blocked. So in light of these problems, our "Kuzya" most likely does not bother them too much. Why, it floats on the sea, is silent ...
    2. Wedmak
      Wedmak 11 November 2016 12: 22
      +2
      Just decided to hide the ends

      Rather, the last breath of the black democratizer. As if another case had not been brought against him ... yes, in court. He is not from the clan of Bush, Clinton and others ... a convenient doggie for whipping.
    3. twincam
      twincam 11 November 2016 12: 27
      0
      that's right.
      they want to quickly disown their actions, because if infa becomes available to Trump, it will be a very interesting turn of events))))
  6. Giant thought
    Giant thought 11 November 2016 12: 00
    +2
    But the air wing from "Admiral Kuznetsov" has not yet made combat flights, and the barmaley are already ready to negotiate an armistice, and what will happen if the arriving MiG-29 and Su-33 begin to grind them, both black and green will have to surrender, otherwise there will be death ...
    1. dauria
      dauria 11 November 2016 12: 18
      +7
      But the air wing from "Admiral Kuznetsov" has not yet performed combat missions


      The possibilities of aviation in the city are generally weak (well, except for turning all the houses with basements, and for this at least a direct hit of the fab-250 into the building, our people don’t go for it) Burning the city with lighters, as the Americans did in Japan, also will not work. In addition to the infantry, mother, there is no one to take the city.
      There is something else - the alignment of the RF-NATO in the region with the advent has changed, the barmalei remain on their own. And this means, only a matter of time, no matter how you twist.

      And off topic. Admins, redirects to your advertisers are zadolbali, I'm not going to put additional software in the browser for the sake of one site. Make the site "feel" (at least in form, you have already ruined the content)
      1. Dobrenko
        Dobrenko 11 November 2016 14: 40
        0
        Adguard, to the rescue!
        1. dauria
          dauria 11 November 2016 15: 30
          +2
          Adguard, to the rescue!


          Is it my head that should hurt, or the site owners? A bunch of normal sites with ads, but no redirects. They have already turned a bunch of normal visitors away from themselves with their "renewed" bunch. Well, they will stay with the "web-advanced" young people who know how to search in the Adguard network smile ... Soon here only the regulars of "warface" and "tankers" will think about the army (when the lessons are over).
  7. 210ox
    210ox 11 November 2016 12: 01
    +12
    In general, it even starts to annoy .. We don’t strike, we are going to a truce .. Who is reconciled with? Enemies of the human race? Into hell!
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    2. Kalina
      Kalina 11 November 2016 12: 25
      +1
      Totally agree with you!
  8. Vita vko
    Vita vko 11 November 2016 12: 02
    +1
    Negotiations with terrorists and murderers should be conducted only on the possible replacement of the death penalty with a long prison term.
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  10. Warrior with machine gun
    Warrior with machine gun 11 November 2016 12: 09
    +7
    it was unlikely that Kuzya frightened them so much, more likely the reasons are more serious and prosaic, no one knows what the new White House sidekeeper will take, but everyone wants to lay straws so that it doesn’t hurt to fall if something happens. All of these pauses are too long dragged on, and not a single one led to positive results, the barmaleys only manage to regroup and replenish, they need to finish this circus, they were given a chance to survive, they didn’t want to, then forward to Allah.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 11 November 2016 12: 18
      +1
      Quote: Warrior with machine gun
      did not want, then forward to Allah.

      ... not to Allah, but to Hell ...
      1. Warrior with machine gun
        Warrior with machine gun 11 November 2016 12: 22
        +6
        Well, he understands himself there, let someone go))
  11. Altona
    Altona 11 November 2016 12: 10
    +2
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    No matter how tempting, but not everyone wants to "go to the houris" immediately.

    --------------------------------------------
    -Mohhamed, am I already in paradise, yes, with virgin gurias?
    -Yes, you are in paradise, Abdullah!
    -And why do I have a chest and a hole between my legs ...?
    -You see, Abdullah, there aren’t enough gurus for everyone, therefore ...
  12. McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 11 November 2016 12: 11
    +3
    They never agreed on a truce with the vanquished, but talked about surrender.
  13. Slon_on
    Slon_on 11 November 2016 12: 16
    +5
    Somehow, to negotiate with them after their atrocities, known in the media and revealed later, is not very. Every igilovets is worthy of death. By hanging. According to their views, with such execution, the soul of the faithful leaves the mortal body not through the throat and mouth, but through the anus. And of course, they will not leave the person who is naturally soiled in shit in paradise, and therefore they will not see the gurus either, they will have to remember love with a donkey.
  14. Wedmak
    Wedmak 11 November 2016 12: 19
    +3
    We associate this with the arrival of the aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov in the Mediterranean Sea and the information that has appeared about the readiness to strike at the positions of the militants with the missiles "Caliber"

    Yes, that's all nonsense. If there was an order to hammer the broads by all means without hesitation, they would have acted much easier. There’s no need to drive a cruiser around Europe. Strengthen the group in Hmeimim deal a couple of days. ORTK even brought. The caliber was launched to a) test missiles b) show NATO that it’s not worth joking with us. Same story with strategists and YES.
    So our ships came there clearly not for the assault on Aleppo. Although it may help on occasion, it is necessary to shoot the "old" Granites with benefit, which is good to be lost. wink
  15. Altona
    Altona 11 November 2016 12: 27
    +1
    Quote: Wedmak
    So our ships came there clearly not for the assault on Aleppo. Although it may help on occasion, it is necessary to shoot the "old" Granites with benefit, which is good to be lost.

    -------------------------------
    Now friends from the Middle East "superpower" will come here, shoot their "granites" in the comments. It was for this "superpower" that "Admiral Kuznetsov" pulled himself up to Mediterranean. Well, Dima Medvedev came to accept conversion and circumcision, you never know what? laughing
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 11 November 2016 13: 20
      0
      Now friends from the Middle East "superpower" will come here,

      Taki Israel already complained that because of C-400 they now have problems with flights over Syria. No bombing ...
      In general, it would be time for the Jews to think about inadequate reactions to a shell accidentally flown to them. And first think, and then make air and artillery raids. It’s not an hour, such a raid will turn into several dozen corpses of Israeli soldiers and only they themselves will be to blame. And then we won’t deny that they have such a reaction to the threat. Even if the threat is fictitious.
  16. Engineer
    Engineer 11 November 2016 12: 27
    +3
    What nonsense! How could our aircraft carrier cruiser scare the militants? It has neither Su-24M nor Su-34, nor Su-25, nor even the heavier bombers. Is it Su-33 they were so scared or something? Bullshit of journalists and nothing more.
    1. svp67
      svp67 11 November 2016 12: 39
      +1
      Quote: Engineer
      How could our aircraft carrier cruiser scare the militants? It has neither Su-24M nor Su-34, nor Su-25, nor even the heavier bombers. Is it Su-33 they were so scared or something? Bullshit of journalists and nothing more.

      You are looking AT THE EXTERNAL PART, but have not tried to look INSIDE? How many missile systems ON ALL ships of the squadron, capable of striking the coast. In vain perhaps not long ago they tried to shoot "Granite" along the coast. And there is "Granite" on the same "Kuznetsov". So, that strike, maybe MASSIVE, missile and bomb.
      1. Engineer
        Engineer 11 November 2016 13: 29
        +2
        They laughed) Have you tried to shoot the sparrows with a gun? You can shoot granite, but why? You look at the EXTERNAL part of the rocket, but did NOT try to look INSIDE? Take a look, then you’ll realize that it’s hard to come up with granites (anti-ship missiles) for militants in Aleppo.
  17. svp67
    svp67 11 November 2016 12: 35
    +2
    I think that the US elections also affected ... so to speak, "two in one." But Aleppo must be ended, in our favor. It's time to take on Idlib and Raqqa.
  18. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 11 November 2016 12: 38
    +1
    The "favorite" variant of negotiations of their main sponsor (USA) is quite possible:
    True, it cannot be ruled out that, when making proposals on holding armistice negotiations, extremists, as in previous times, just want to take a break and regroup, ”the expert said.

    So let them go out of Aleppo and after that they talk with the government of the SAR through the mediation of the Russian Federation, but rather surrender without any conditions!
  19. Vadim12
    Vadim12 11 November 2016 12: 47
    +2
    Give them the UN, guarantees ... Bandits set conditions. In my opinion, they should be wet thoroughly. The world will become cleaner.
  20. Holoy
    Holoy 11 November 2016 12: 50
    +2
    I doubt it ... they may even not know about Kuznetsov at all ...
  21. valent45
    valent45 11 November 2016 13: 01
    +1
    No more truces! Finish with Aleppo and the point! And continue to further solve the tasks of liberation
    Syria! am
  22. Leeder
    Leeder 11 November 2016 13: 21
    0
    Quote: Wedmak
    to shoot the "old" Granites must be usefully, what good to be lost.

    Did the barmalei have a fleet? Something I do not remember this possibility of firing anti-ship missiles on the ground request
    1. ghby
      ghby 11 November 2016 14: 37
      0
      Quote: LeeDer
      Did the barmalei have a fleet?
      The sponsors have, and how they will behave in view of the unpredictability of US elections is another question.

      Quote: LeeDer
      Something I do not remember this possibility of firing anti-ship missiles on the ground

      there is she even trained recently.
  23. sandroart
    sandroart 11 November 2016 16: 19
    0
    At one time, he even wrote an article on VO with the aim of stopping useless disputes, as aircraft carriers are needed / unnecessary. However, the psychological effect that AAG creates cannot be ignored. All the same, the nuclear submarines cannot do this, since they operate secretly. By the way, this also applies to Strategic Aviation. Missiles, but they’re not very scary, and when Tu-95 \ Tu-160 goes along your borders, you feel uncomfortable, right? Immediately there is a direct desire to search for compromises, to sit down at the negotiating table. Yeah.
  24. 31R-US
    31R-US 11 November 2016 17: 17
    0
    Quote: Jovanni
    as a business person, he will immediately request a report on cabbage. Here the hut now began to urgently stir up.
    One hundred percent.
  25. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 12 November 2016 17: 02
    +2
    Rest in the other world and regroup. We have nothing to talk with bandits