Thailand has received another batch of Ukrainian "Plots"

Another batch of 5 arrived from Ukraine to Thailand aboard a cargo ship tanks "Oplot-T" production of the Kharkov Plant them. Malysheva, reports Military Informant.

At the moment, the Ministry of Defense of Thailand received 20 Ukrainian tanks in the framework of the contract for 49 combat vehicles.

The contract for the supply of "Plots" was concluded in 2011. The date of its execution is the end of 2014. Delivery times were repeatedly postponed “due to problems that arose when organizing serial production at the facilities of the Ukroboronprom concern,” the newspaper notes.

Now the Ukrainian side promises to deliver the following 5 tanks at the beginning of 2017. Apparently, one should not expect a serious acceleration of the production of the "Plot"

In May, the media reported that the Thai Defense Ministry had lost hope of receiving Ukrainian T-84 and signed a contract for the supply of VT-4 tanks with China.

Comments

[Kars]

A little more, a little more)
Well at least they didn’t nationalize.

[The black]

The contract for the supply of "Plots" was concluded in 2011. The date of its execution is the end of 2014. Delivery times were repeatedly postponed “due to problems that arose when organizing serial production at the facilities of the Ukroboronprom concern,” the newspaper notes.

Nonsense ... Tymchuk will say that the Bastions dismantle like hot cakes, do not have time to build

[Kars]

It depends on who pays) Thais pay in fact) There is no prepayment.
Get the Chinese see at least who is better.

[the most important]

Quote: Kars

Get the Chinese see at least who is better.

But it seems to me that in the tank biathlon it is necessary to exhibit the T-90MS, so that real buyers would see its capabilities.

[Kars]

Hindus can come exhibit. For one build quality in Avadi we will see.

[svp67]

Quote: Kars

Hindus may come exhibit.

Don't wait, ours won't let you do this ... There is no need to "throw beads ..."

[Kars]

Maybe your Armata will be put up)))
and so far the only operators are scheduled to India) nor Arjun to lead them.

[svp67]

Quote: Kars

Maybe your Armata will be put up)))

We can also set Armata, only as part of the 1st Guards Tank Army, with reinforcement units and units .... Do you need it?

[Kars]

years through 5) maybe expose)
but to me what's the difference?

[Ulan]

It's time, it will be interesting to see.

[Zlyden.Zlo]

What's the point? the engines I think are the same. sighting devices, too ... only the means of protecting the tank from an external threat remain ... how are we going to test it in biathlon? catapult)))))

[svp67]

Quote: Kars

Get the Chinese see at least who is better.

There is such a good Russian proverb - that a spoon for LUNCH is good. The Chinese tank is exactly the TA spoon.

[Kars]

They haven’t set one yet. Yes, and it doesn’t seem like the Thais are on fire.

[activator]

Quote: svp67

There is such a good Russian proverb - that a spoon for LUNCH is good. The Chinese tank is exactly the TA spoon.

If only the spoon was not a fork. I used borsch in a gum for two weeks with a fork because there were many forks, but no spoons.

[APASUS]

Quote: Kars

Get the Chinese see at least who is better.

I think China has more to offer than Ukraine both in terms of military technical support and political support, as regards this contract, and any other. Another thing is that there are domestic political troubles with China

[Kars]

I think this does not apply to the topic of tanks.
but if in Thailand both a stronghold and a Chinese are simultaneously in operation, then a comparison will be inevitable.

[nizrum]

And they really do not have time to build ....)))

[svp67]

Quote: Black

Nonsense ... Tymchuk will say that the Bastions dismantle like hot cakes, do not have time to build

I think why Ukraine still cannot fulfill this order, but it looks like it. We did not have time to assemble the tank, as it was already "dismantled". Apparently they are being disassembled to assemble the next batch of tanks from these parts ... Some kind of perpetual motion machine.

[Giant thought]

Almost everyone who contacted Ukraine with the supply of arms received, along with the contracts, a headache and absolute non-obligation when fulfilling contracts from the Ukrainian side.

[Zibelew]

The king of Thailand died without waiting

[Engineer]

Is there really no money for a normal tank, what are tanks welded from Soviet trash buying?

[potroshenko]

Quote: Engineer

Is there really no money for a normal tank, what are tanks welded from Soviet trash buying?

Emotions on an empty bunch?

[Alexey RA]

Recently bmpd had pictures of the oplots making process. And everyone was very intrigued by the question: why is welding carried out on already painted bodies? Will it not turn out later that the hulls of the "strongholds" are based on the T-80 hulls taken from storage?

[The leader of the Redskins]

It may very well be that below the tower is not much different from the "eighty". I mean body parts. But the quality does not suffer from this, does it? That is why such a pace of execution is a mystery ...

[pts-m]

A transport trawl is attached to the “wreckage”, to relocate these vehicles from position to position, this accessory is a guarantee in case of an expected breakdown of this equipment. Interestingly, the Ruinians paid a forfeit or “tricks” are a gift for a broken contract.

[svp67]

In Thailand, another batch of 5 Oplot-T tanks from the Kharkiv Zavod Plant arrived from Thailand from Ukraine on board a cargo ship. Malysheva, according to the Military informant.

It’s interesting, when will the last tanks from this order come from Ukraine, will the first batch still be in operation or will they be sent to the landfill?

[VSZMK]

Quote: svp67

It’s interesting, when will the last tanks from this order come from Ukraine, will the first batch still be in operation or will they be sent to the landfill?

Most likely in the ranks. In a landfill.

[The black]

Quote: VSZMK

Quote: svp67

It’s interesting, when will the last tanks from this order come from Ukraine, will the first batch still be in operation or will they be sent to the landfill?

Most likely in the ranks. In a landfill.

You are pessimists. Why are you so about "Oplot" .... it will be quite in service, though on an elephant sled ... ... no other way

[Kars]

such as the shelf life of the tank 5 years) Thais Bulldogs still drive) and without elephants.

[Sargaras]

I can’t understand, the Thai leadership is also full of idiots - it’s necessary to think of a contract with modern Ukraine.

[Retvizan 8]

Probably seduced at a low price.

[Kars]

When was she low?
Moreover, despite the fact that well-wishers with 2012 have canceled the contract three times on behalf of Thailand) and for more than a year the Thai army has been operating the Bastion, and there are no claims to quality.

[svp67]

Quote: Kars

and for more than a year now the Thai army has been operating the Bastion, and there are no claims to quality.

Yes? Something seems to me so that the Thais have already regretted three hundred times that they have contacted Ukraine. Well, they understand very well that Ukraine will not return the money ...

[svp67]

Quote: Kars

and for more than a year now the Thai army has been operating the Bastion, and there are no claims to quality.

But he decided, far from sin, to hedge and buy Chinese tanks ... and so it is, there are ALMOST no complaints, except for one - TANKS WHERE? All deadlines have already passed.

[Kars]

Quote: svp67

so yes, there are ALMOST no complaints, except for one - TANKS WHERE? All deadlines have already passed.

How to pay) and get it.
And the tanks are already in Thailand), not all of course)

Quote: svp67

Something seems to me so that the Thais have already regretted three hundred times that they have contacted Ukraine. Well, they understand very well that Ukraine will not return the money ...

Type they pay in advance, but not upon shipment.

[co-creator]

Quote: Kars

How to pay) and get it.

Like, did Tayland signed a contract for 50 units plus another one for 150 many years ago and pays for 5 cars a year? Do you yourself even believe in what you write?

Quote: Kars

And the tanks are already in Thailand), not all of course)

So that's the trouble. Although these are already your problems, the contract for 150 pcs has been canceled.

Quote: Kars

Type they pay in advance, but not upon shipment.

Like yes, otherwise they would have broken the contract long ago and bought the same Chinese. "Rollback" in the Ministry of Defense of Thailand has apparently been spent for a long time

[Kars]

Quotation: blooded man

Like, did Tayland signed a contract for 50 units plus another one for 150 many years ago and pays for 5 cars a year? Do you yourself even believe in what you write?

) misinterpret) do you know what payment is after?
did 5-accepted, paid, would have made 50 would have paid for 50)
would have made an advance payment would have long condemned.

Quotation: blooded man

So that's the trouble. Although these are already your problems, the contract for 150 pcs has been canceled.

There has never been a contract on 150) how can it be canceled? Read what an option is))

Quotation: blooded man

Like yes, otherwise they would have broken the contract a long time ago

Well this is necessary) in the same comment write the exact opposite things) and refute yourself))

[co-creator]

Quote: Kars

) misinterpret) do you know what payment is after?

Of course I know.

Quote: Kars

did 5-accepted, paid, would have made 50 would have paid for 50)

That is, Thailand is ready to wait for tanks for at least 50 years? Well, they’ll make 1 tank a year, so they’ll buy one?))
This is new in the world of business when it is not the buyer who sets the deadlines for delivery, but the seller)) Are you the type of troll, or do you have such giants of thought in Ukraine?

Quote: Kars

would have made an advance payment would have long condemned.

Will they judge themselves? Kickbacks will also be returned?

Quote: Kars

There has never been a contract on 150) how can it be canceled? Read what an option is))

So where is the option recorded? Naturally in the contract. You have lost the guaranteed order for 150 cars, it is a fact.

Quote: Kars

Well this is necessary) in the same comment write the exact opposite things) and refute yourself))

Where did I disprove myself? For the Ukrainian separately. If the contract "was" clean, it would have been broken long ago. It's just that someone in the Ministry of Defense of Thailand has already received a rollback from this contract or receives a rollback.

[Sasha75]

Someone counted $ 17 per kilogram cost Thailand tanks))).

[The leader of the Redskins]

svp67 ... In your comments, the keyword - it seems. It is necessary to operate not with seeming, but with real facts ...

[Observer2014]

Thailand has received another batch of Ukrainian "Plots"

Poor fellow! (Thailand) On a afyugu and sucker runs.

[co-creator]

Well, yes, Ukrainians threw their corruption partners.

[Altona]

Ukraine has finally joined the industrial race with China.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Altona

Ukraine has finally joined the industrial race with China.

Moreover - she wins in it! How many Chinese tanks delivered to Thailand? Voooot, and the Ukrainian ones - as many as 20. All the same, she’s an obvious help!

[Drzed]

Well, yes, the Indians only buy 494 T-90 MS

[rotmistr60]

Lesson for suckers - check your partner before signing a contract. I think that Thailand was smart enough not to make 100% prepayment?

[McLuha-MacLeod]

The mind was not enough. I paid everything right away

[Stone]

There seems to be a payment after the fact.

[co-creator]

Quote: Sten

There seems to be a payment after the fact.

It is unlikely . Most likely the money was transferred a long time ago, those who signed the contract from the Thais got a rollback too long ago.

[sgr291158]

It seems that there is a sale of still living remains.

[antivirus]

Work is YES, and delivering is not a promise and dancing songs in taverns

[MMX]

3 tanks a year is obtained. Is it too much trouble or zrada, who can explain?

[Ulan]

This is the collapse of the country and its industry.

[Normal ok]

What do we have in fact? The contract works, the tanks (albeit with a delay) go. Thailand claims no exploitation. What to laugh here?
Let us better remember for how many years Russia has passed through the delivery of Vikramaditya to India. Or the delivery of frigates of the Talvar project.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Normal ok

What do we have in fact? The contract works, the tanks (albeit with a delay) go.

Yeah ... the term of the contract is the end of 2014. Outside - the end of 2016. Less than half of the tanks were delivered.
However, the press service of the Malyshev Plant regularly reports that

It was decided to continue and increase cooperation under the "Thai contract". Now work on it is going as usualas with other foreign orders

Quote: Normal ok

Let us better remember for how many years Russia has passed through the delivery of Vikramaditya to India.

Well, did the Thais order the restoration of tanks from sludge using a medium repair method, and then changed the specification several times?
The deadlines for "Baku" were shifted because the customer wanted "for penny penny". Although he was immediately warned that the ship is old and will have to, instead of"here we’ll cook, here we’ll tint"to do a full-fledged repair. As a result, the scope of work had to be re-negotiated several times.

[co-creator]

Quote: Normal ok

The contract works, the tanks (albeit with a delay) go. Thailand claims no exploitation. What to laugh here?

So laugh at that. that 50 tanks can’t be built for 7 years. Aren't you funny?

Quote: Normal ok

Let us better remember for how many years Russia has passed through the delivery of Vikramaditya to India. Or the delivery of frigates of the Talvar project.

Compare XP .. with a finger. How much does one frigate cost and how much are these 50 tanks?

[Ulan]

The plant named after Malyshev has long been not the one that was in the USSR.

[Retvizan]

Quote: Ulan

The plant named after Malyshev has long been not the one that was in the USSR.

Well, compare the requests not even of the Ukrainian SSR, but of Ukraine - they are many times lower. And there the whole USSR was, and requests from the USSR were consistent with the goals and objectives of the 2nd world hegemon.
In general, nobody needs thousands of tanks. Malysheva generally made her way either with the Pakistani contract or with inexpensive modernization .. here Thai got hold of.
It is a pity Ukraine Strongholds itself is not in a hurry, it saves.

[co-creator]

Quote: Retvizan

It is a pity Ukraine Strongholds itself is not in a hurry, it saves.

Save not save, but your plant cannot do more than 5 pieces a year.

[Alexey-74]

This batch will go to repair the previous ...............

[Leonid Har]

Products from "Ukroboronprom" are now probably like Chinese consumer goods on the market. Surely their quality will require fine-tuning, finishing, re-tightening, additional lubrication, re-equipment and warranty repairs.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Another opus on "funeral". At the moment - the Malyshev plant ... And he is alive! Moreover, in conditions of hostilities, it supplies tanks abroad! Germany did not dare to do such a thing in the forties - there all the planned contracts with import partners were turned in their direction and only then they began to "siphon off" a certain number of especially close ones.

[Olegovi4]

what is it alive? 5 pieces per year under an expired export contract? "rather dead than alive"

[The leader of the Redskins]

But what about the repair and restoration of armored vehicles for ATO?

[akribos]

I think it's worth buying yourself "Oplot". At the rate they are building it, they will probably soon stop altogether. It will be a rarity, in a couple of years you can sell it to the museum. Sincerely.