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Permyakov refused to appeal the verdict

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The situation with the lawsuit regarding the Russian soldier Valery Permyakov, who on January 12 on January 2015 killed the Avetisyan Armenian family in the city of Gyumri, finds its development. Permyakov was found guilty of murder and sentenced to life imprisonment. Permyakov's lawyer filed an appeal on the court decision, which was to be considered by the Court of Appeal of the Republic of Armenia.


Today it turned out that the appeal from lawyer Eduard Aghajanyan had to be postponed for a week. The main reason is that Valery Permyakov not only fully pleaded guilty to the commission of crimes (including desertion), but also acknowledges that the court sentence against him was fair.

Permyakov refused to appeal the verdict


Edward Aghajanyan said that the convicted Permyakov had refused complaints regarding the judicial decision.

Interfax cites the statement of an Armenian lawyer:
Valery Permyakov’s refusal of complaints challenges my authority. The content of the appeal is confidential. I can only say that, for the time being, the accusation against Permyakov on the 1 part of the 34-329 article of illegal border crossing has been appealed against.


Recall that after the murder, Valery Permyakov was going to move from Armenia, where the Russian military base is stationed, to Turkey. According to some reports, he did not have time to do this - he was detained by border guards.

The lawyer of the relatives of the family of Avetisyan Lusine Sahakyan stated that Permyakov behaved during the court session as if he was in no way interested in the process. From the statement of Sahakyan (portal leads I NEWS.am.):
During the forensic psychiatric examination during the investigation, he noted that he was aware of what the sentence would be and was ready for it. This behavior is due. This also explains that he has no complaints, he agrees with everything, and does not want to be present at the trial, that is, due to the state of mental health. This is a demonstration of indifference, since regardless of whether the complaint will be considered or not, the sentence will not change in essence.


Lusine Sahakyan stated that Permyakov will serve his sentence in Russia.
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  1. The black
    The black 10 November 2016 18: 43
    +10
    Like it or not, everything is fair. He must sit for life! ... and this is the minimum ... I hope this ghoul will be punished not only on earth.
    1. Phosgene
      Phosgene 10 November 2016 19: 04
      +30
      But what about the Armenian ghoul who killed dozens of bus passengers in his truck in Moscow, he should not sit for life ?!
      1. sherp2015
        sherp2015 10 November 2016 19: 19
        +23
        Quote: Phosgene
        But what about the Armenian ghoul who killed dozens of bus passengers in his truck in Moscow, he should not sit for life ?!

        Thousands of such ghouls from Armenia entered Russia, and maybe hundreds of thousands of several million who have moved here over the past ten years ...
        Pedophiles, killers, maniacs, scammers and just louts and insolents: Ambartsumovs (Ambartsumyan), Tsakanyany, Grigoryany, Harutyunyan and other Ionesyans.
        And they treat the indigenous population disgustingly
        1. 210ox
          210ox 10 November 2016 19: 47
          +15
          Well, they climbed into our Kuban another two hundred years ago .. So we live among them. Of course there are different relationships. By the way, they try not to let the rest of the Caucasians here, unlike their neighbors, the Stavropolites. He knows what’s happening, the Russians survive, and the authorities turn a blind eye to it ..
          1. Mahmut
            Mahmut 11 November 2016 05: 36
            +3
            But what about the Armenian ghoul who killed dozens of bus passengers in his truck in Moscow, he should not sit for life ?!

            Was there any intention. No truck driver is safe from this.
            1. Mahmut
              Mahmut 11 November 2016 05: 50
              +3
              Well, they climbed into our Kuban two hundred years ago ..

              And they entered the Volga to us Russians even 600 years ago, 300 years earlier than us, the original, indigenous.
              1. sisa29
                sisa29 11 November 2016 08: 20
                +1
                And Mahmut is probably an old Russian name?
            2. tihiy
              tihiy 11 November 2016 07: 19
              +5
              Quote: Mahmut
              But what about the Armenian ghoul who killed dozens of bus passengers in his truck in Moscow, he should not sit for life ?!

              Was there any intention. No truck driver is safe from this.

              I recall a not so old case in the Stavropol Territory. An organized criminal group consisting of almost fifty ghouls of Yerevan origin, led by criminal Tsakanyan, broke into Mineralovodsk hospital and beat a Russian by the name of Larionov to death
          2. ando_bor
            ando_bor 11 November 2016 08: 52
            +1
            The Armenians lived in the Kuban when Russia was still not there, in Cherkessia, a trade and craft bunch, like the Jews, the Circassians did not do this very much, the Circassians were deported, and the Armenians remained, then they pulled themselves up from Armenia. In the Stavropol Territory the same.
            1. Phosgene
              Phosgene 11 November 2016 10: 41
              0
              Before Russia, the Ottoman Empire (Turkey) was in the Kuban.
              1. ando_bor
                ando_bor 11 November 2016 11: 32
                +1
                The left bank of the Kuban so-called "Circassia" was not a normal state with all the attributes, but it never entered the Ottoman Empire, although it was guided by them. The right bank - yes, it was part of the Ottoman Empire, Russia came there earlier, to the left bank only in the 60s of the 19th century ..
                .
          3. Prince of Pensions
            Prince of Pensions 11 November 2016 13: 53
            0
            Is it like "don't let the others in"?
        2. The black
          The black 10 November 2016 20: 04
          +3
          This does not justify Permyakov
        3. KRIG55
          KRIG55 10 November 2016 23: 38
          +5
          And also Marabaghdasaryan ....
          1. tihiy
            tihiy 11 November 2016 07: 26
            +2
            Quote: KRIG55
            And also Marabaghdasaryan ....

            ))) no matter what Sh - Mara, then there must be some miracle in feathers
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 10 November 2016 19: 40
        +11
        Quote: Phosgene
        But what about the Armenian ghoul who killed dozens of bus passengers in his truck in Moscow, he should not sit for life ?!

        Is it a conversation about him? Is he a maniac who deliberately crushed Muscovites? Can we recall Malyutu Skuratov or Batu? Or maybe Chekatilo or the cannibal Dzhumagaliev? Let's all in a bunch!
        1. sub307
          sub307 10 November 2016 19: 57
          +3
          "Let's all get together!"
          Ah ... let's ..! EBN, Gorbachev, "redhead" .. well, etc.
        2. Phosgene
          Phosgene 10 November 2016 19: 58
          +12
          Do you have evidence that he did not knowingly ram a bus on a truck and kill people ?! No?! Well then, do not write what you cannot prove! Brakes can be deliberately disabled. You recall how during the time of Brezhnev, the Armenian Nazis blew up the Moscow metro ?! I believe that that Armenian scumbag should sit for life, in a prison of the strictest regime, and in Russia!
          1. The black
            The black 10 November 2016 20: 12
            +5
            And what, there is evidence that he did it intentionally?
            1. Phosgene
              Phosgene 10 November 2016 20: 24
              +6
              There is a murderer and there are those killed and there is no evidence that this was not done intentionally by the Armenian terrorist .... There are no direct evidence against Permyakov, except for a bayonet from a machine gun that could steal and lose him ... Why do you want to punish one and don't want to punish another ?! Do you have relatives in Armenia ?!
              1. The black
                The black 10 November 2016 20: 33
                +6
                1.Alexander! Permyakov admitted his guilt. 2. Who told you that there is no evidence?
                Why do you want to punish one and do not want to punish the other ?!
                I do not punish anyone. The court deals with them. Specifically, with each.
                3. I don’t have relatives in Armenia. I myself am not an Armenian. hi smile
                1. Phosgene
                  Phosgene 10 November 2016 20: 38
                  +6
                  A person who has killed dozens of people, whether it is intentional or not, must be executed, and if the Armenian was not punished, then there is nothing to punish Permyakov for ...
                  1. The black
                    The black 10 November 2016 20: 47
                    +3
                    Quote: Phosgene
                    A man who has killed dozens of people, whether it is intentional or not, must be executed, and since the Armenian has not been punished, then there is nothing to punish Permyakov for.

                    Ohhh, you're a blood feud supporter laughing .... just don’t need me to talk about it. wink
                    1. Phosgene
                      Phosgene 10 November 2016 20: 50
                      +5
                      I am a supporter of the death penalty for serial killers and that Armenian murderer is a murderer who has a place in the loop ... And since he was not punished, then there is nothing to punish Permyakov ... especially since there is no direct evidence against him ... And the recognition of filkin diploma, if you beat you for a week and you confess to killing the Kennedy brothers they took the crime scene, he is unambiguously guilty, and nobody caught Permyakov at the scene of the murder ... and all the evidence against him is far-fetched ...
                      1. The black
                        The black 10 November 2016 20: 57
                        +3
                        Who are attracted to? smile .... Chikatilo too; "red-handed", on the spot ... no one caught ... so what?
                      2. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 10 November 2016 21: 15
                        +6
                        Quote: Phosgene
                        all the evidence against him is far-fetched ...

                        “Have you seen all this evidence?”
                        - let me doubt wink
                        - people from a time machine crumbled a dozen people
                        - What do you think, the bullets that were removed from the bodies, checked for "from which barrel they flew out"? Don’t hesitate, checked
                        - and they flew exactly from that very trunk
                        - or the machine is also "possible to lose"? How's the bayonet?

                        In short, stop raving ... "no evidence", (censorship) negative
                    2. tihiy
                      tihiy 11 November 2016 07: 23
                      +2
                      Quote: Black
                      Black Yesterday, 20:47 ↑
                      Quote: Phosgene
                      A man who has killed dozens of people, whether it is intentional or not, must be executed, and since the Armenian has not been punished, then there is nothing to punish Permyakov for.
                      Ohhh, you’re a supporter of blood feud .... just don’t need me to razzazat about it.
                      Reply Quote Complaint More ...

                      An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth...
                      Well this is your favorite Jewish principle regarding gentiles
            2. Donhapa
              Donhapa 11 November 2016 09: 33
              +2
              Quote: Black
              And what, there is evidence that he did it intentionally?

              Hundreds and thousands of cases of their deliberate crimes
              , brutal ,, brutal:
              For example, in Pyatigorsk, the criminal recidivist Ambartsumov, an Armenian, lured 9-year-old Anya Prokopenko onto a standing object and killed her several times by raping.
            3. Donhapa
              Donhapa 11 November 2016 09: 46
              +3
              Quote: Black
              And what, there is evidence that he did it intentionally?

              The terrorists Zatikyan, Stepanyan and others who carried out a series of explosions in Moscow, having prepared and brought homemade bombs from Yrivan, probably accidentally killed and injured hundreds of people
          2. Lekxnumx
            Lekxnumx 10 November 2016 20: 16
            +7
            Fugsen Nenado doesn’t carry argumentum ad ignorantiam lack of evidence of something, is not considered proof of the opposite! Your logic damn how it works.
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 10 November 2016 20: 25
              +10
              Quote: Lek3338
              Fyugsen Nenado carry garbage ... Your logic damn it understand how it works

              - Phosgene is a local clown
              - just treat accordingly yes
              1. Phosgene
                Phosgene 10 November 2016 20: 31
                +5
                And who are you local ?! Spy ?! I understood this a long time ago, so do not bother to prove the obvious ...
                1. Baloo
                  Baloo 10 November 2016 20: 36
                  +10
                  Orderlies, orderlies, Fyugsgenu bad fool
                  1. Phosgene
                    Phosgene 10 November 2016 20: 39
                    +4
                    Go howl to the moon, you with your avatar there ...
                    1. Baloo
                      Baloo 10 November 2016 20: 50
                      +4
                      Orderlies, orderlies, Fyugsgenu bad
                      1. Phosgene
                        Phosgene 10 November 2016 21: 13
                        +2
                        Well, the one with the cat in the avatar is a citizen of Norway, but where did you get to us from ?!
                2. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 10 November 2016 22: 40
                  +2
                  Quote: Phosgene
                  And who are you local ?! Spy ?! I understood this a long time ago, so do not bother to prove the obvious ...

                  - the nurse of the forest, at your service
                  - I drive ... especially gifted, just in the order of entertainment, when there is free time
                  - now, unfortunately, there is time. But there is no work. Work is sought, in parallel with the entertainment on the site.

                  That's all yes

                  And what you "understood" there is your personal grief. And your cockroaches. Holte them and cherish them, do not forget to feed them and drive them to the mandrel laughing
                  1. Phosgene
                    Phosgene 11 November 2016 01: 08
                    +2
                    Engage in your own, Norwegian forests, we are here, in Russia, somehow we will live without you ...
                    1. Cat man null
                      Cat man null 11 November 2016 01: 21
                      +2
                      Quote: Phosgene
                      Engage in your own, Norwegian forests, we are here, in Russia, somehow we will live without you

                      - give a reference to "me" under the Norwegian flag ... curious, already horror laughing
                      - I, unlike you, are well known here.
                      - with your cheap arrivals you only once again expose yourself as a clown
                      - Do you need it, think? wink
                      1. Phosgene
                        Phosgene 11 November 2016 10: 44
                        0
                        And you go to the site ,, news of the military-industrial complex '' there you do not have to look for you for a very long time, with your Norwegian flag and the Norwegian forest cat on your avatar ...
              2. Alexdark
                Alexdark 10 November 2016 22: 26
                +5
                For me, the clown is the one who thinks that accidental and deliberate murder are one and the same ... And most importantly, he accused him, called that Armenian a terrorist. He is a murderer and must be punished, but you are already bombarding everyone with terrorists, without proof, and in general you are comparing incomparable. Oh yeah, come on, accuse me of being Armenian (and I'm Russian). This is your defensive reaction, lashing out without argument. Has branded, and there is no need for polemics). It's funny. Well, judging by what is in your head, "hundreds of thousands of Armenians in Russia" and others. The Natsiks have the same way of life. In their opinion, all crimes are not committed by Russians. All 150% of crimes. This is such a blind heresy. A real clown. And as an adequate person, I think that criminals are different, and not 150% of non-Russians. And I also think that crimes are different. Punishment should be for everyone, but comparing intentional murder with accidental, albeit through negligence, is an insignificant narrow-mindedness.
                1. Phosgene
                  Phosgene 11 November 2016 01: 12
                  +3
                  And why did Mr. Putin forbid naming the nationalities of the criminals and the program `` Crime '' was removed from the air, for the sake of a frankly harmful country of tolerance (proven in the EU, with their refugees, if you have few domestic examples, such as Hatkovo) ?! Something when in the program `` Crime '' they called the nationality and citizenship of criminals, citizens of the Russian Federation were not too dense, and there were even fewer Russians ... So practice refutes your theories ...
                2. tihiy
                  tihiy 11 November 2016 06: 20
                  +1
                  Quote: AlexDARK
                  And I, as an adequate person, I think that there are different criminals, and not 150% of non-Russians. And I think that there are different crimes. Punishment must be for everyone

                  Butter oil ...))
            2. Phosgene
              Phosgene 10 November 2016 20: 26
              +4
              Well, we know your logic well ... If yours killed a Russian, then it’s always a quarrel, but if you killed yours, then the Russian fascists attacked ... And how you cut Russian and Armenians in Baku in the 90s to remind you, but gentlemen ?!
              1. Lekxnumx
                Lekxnumx 10 November 2016 20: 48
                +7
                Count Fyugsen I didn’t slaughter anyone, I didn’t even conceive then)). And my father and my relatives did not participate in this. Aunt Raya taught me the Russian language from the fourth floor, Aunt Lusia went to the same school with her grandson and the aunt Nadia baked excellent sweets for Easter, it’s only in our block the Slavs. Honestly I never asked my parents what ethnicity they are Russian or Ukrainians or Belarusians. I didn’t give a damn now, good people are simple, the rest is not interesting. If someone was treated badly, then why doesn’t your state call the perpetrators of the Azn’s government to account? Why doesn’t the relatives of the victims file a lawsuit with the ECHR and demand compensation or the return of their property? .If there are materials that victims then sue, seek justice, let everyone who is guilty be punished. I ONLY. But don’t have to suffer garbage here and your logic doesn’t work. My great-grandfather was killed by a commune you are Russian with dashnaks, because of them I grew up far from my homeland, my grandfather had to run away from persecution in Baku. I never saw the village where my great-grandfather and grandfather were born, I have no relatives of my grandfather, they killed an entire clan, I do not have a grandfather’s house in the grandfather’s village. And what now is sitting here and cursing Russians and Armenians? Whining like a woman, what are all bad around? Living with this thought as an offender? No comrade, I’m a reasonable person, I don’t hold ANY hatred and resentment. Your logic is still inadequate person, or just troll.
                1. Phosgene
                  Phosgene 10 November 2016 20: 54
                  +2
                  Your country did this and your people also notice, Baku still harbors on its territory Islamic terrorists wanted by the Russian Federation, such as Matsuraev ... I don’t see your country’s good attitude towards Russia and Russians, so the attitude corresponding to you ...
                  1. Lekxnumx
                    Lekxnumx 10 November 2016 21: 08
                    +4
                    What are you asking me for demand for a country that supposedly killed someone?
                    1 The country is not mine, I am a simple citizen of this country, NEVER VOTED
                    2 The people are not mine, they cannot be mine, I can belong to this or that nation of dogs, I am Lezgin
                    3 Don't see a good attitude from "our" country? What are your complaints to me personally?
                    4 I am not responsible for the whole nation, much less for the country and its authorities
                    5 Following your logic, "your" country, your president is friends with Aliyev, ask, demand from them
                    6 Tens of thousands of Russians are tourists and live in Az-nah; on the national soil of murders there is INCORRECTLY less than in Russia, even in percent
                    7 Many live Molokans, for example, who were once expelled by "your"
                    8 In Az-dofig, nationalists like you, who think the same way
                    9 Any problems? Contact the authorities, courts, and your government so that all those responsible are punished.
                    10 Military Review is not the place, waste your time
                    1. Phosgene
                      Phosgene 10 November 2016 21: 15
                      0
                      Your country and you are responsible for it. If something does not suit you, restore order in your homeland, and if your country will spoil me and my people, then we will have a negative attitude towards you.
                      1. Lekxnumx
                        Lekxnumx 10 November 2016 21: 31
                        +4
                        My country, I am guilty))) Your people have a negative attitude towards mine)) The devil made me guilty and for the actions of someone, but he himself spoke on behalf of the whole Russian people))
                        You really go to a psychiatrist dude, you can’t blame a person for what he didn’t do. If some Mamed or Mage goes to kill Vasya or Petya. What’s the matter with that? If I block him, then yes. How can I put things in order in the country? ? There is a police force for this, the courts in your country and in our country. You think it’s not working properly. Okay oppositionist filed a lawsuit against the Azan government. However, they illegally accused, sentenced and sentenced. The ECHR considered that there was not enough evidence and the Az government was fined -on, and they paid compensation and released the person. You are not happy with something, so I suggest one of the options. Are you not satisfied with the trial in Armenia? Contact your parents and the ECHR. Does your comrade know what the difference is between you and me? I would could write so many injustices on the part of Russians against Caucasians, oh mom don’t cry. But I don’t need to, who suffered, let him fight for his rights. At least with the government of Az-nah, at least the Russian Federation and even the leader of Mozambique. Conversation finished by a psychiatrist just go.
              2. Baloo
                Baloo 10 November 2016 21: 18
                +6
                Dear Fosgen, on Yandex, type in the search engine the Test Bank. In the Bank, select psychological tests. It is interesting and informative to look at yourself from the side. It will help you. Believe me, your vocabulary speaks of some problems. Good luck hi
                1. Phosgene
                  Phosgene 10 November 2016 21: 55
                  0
                  I regularly see your colleague with a cat in the avatar on other sites, under the flag of Norway, and his writing style is well guessed ... So fool the head of someone else, not me ...
                  1. Cat man null
                    Cat man null 10 November 2016 22: 48
                    +1
                    Quote: Phosgene
                    I regularly see your colleague with a cat in the avatar on other sites under the flag of Norway

                    Is it me? belay

                    Quote: Phosgene
                    and his writing style is well guessed ..

                    - pamper me with a link to the site ... I really want to look at "myself" fellow
                    - I’ll draw any flag for you, there’s such a plugin - Brovsek is called ... In the free version, the choice is the Netherlands, USA, England, Singapore. One click - and I'm already writing from the States, estimate laughing

                    "Do not create entities beyond necessity." Occam's Razor, haven't you? wink
                    1. Phosgene
                      Phosgene 11 November 2016 01: 14
                      0
                      No, you will not draw any flag there, it is determined automatically, and since you want to know where I see you, so on the website ,, VPK news '' for example.
                      1. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 11 November 2016 01: 24
                        0
                        Quote: Phosgene
                        No, you don’t draw any flag there, it is determined automatically

                        - bliiiin ... attention to the flag ...
                        - This is the Netherlands, if it is ... I can also do the States, England and Singapore ... it is necessary, or is my word enough?

                        Quote: Phosgene
                        if you want to know where I see you, so on the website ,, VPK news '' for example

                        - give a reference to a specific page ... please wassat
                      2. Cat man null
                        Cat man null 11 November 2016 01: 29
                        0
                        Quote: Phosgene
                        No, you don’t draw any flag there, it is determined automatically

                        - I repeat - there are special programs for that ...
                        - now I turned it off laughing
          3. Bayonet
            Bayonet 10 November 2016 20: 45
            +3
            Quote: Phosgene
            Do you have evidence that he did not knowingly ram a bus on a truck and kill people?

            Grandmothers say, shouted "Allahu Akbar !!!" wherein. fool
            1. Phosgene
              Phosgene 10 November 2016 20: 55
              +2
              Your country is clearly outside the Russian Federation
        3. Donhapa
          Donhapa 11 November 2016 09: 37
          +1
          Is that what you say?
          You are still pulling money from the Germans for the so-called Lohakost, but how much time has passed?
      3. 210ox
        210ox 10 November 2016 19: 42
        +3
        Probably sent home to drive a truck ..
      4. The black
        The black 10 November 2016 20: 01
        +2
        Any ghoul should ... but here it is specifically about Permyakov.
      5. Grim Reaper
        Grim Reaper 10 November 2016 21: 35
        +3
        And if you were in his place? What would you sing then?
      6. mik6403
        mik6403 11 November 2016 00: 50
        +1
        What a stupid thing! Killing a person in battle, in a one-on-one youth fight, committing a fatal accident (sober), for example, due to a malfunction of a car or micro-stroke and cold-bloodedly killing several civilians or being a serial killer maniac, is not the same thing. The punishment must be proportionate. In general, that is, a good saying "do not renounce the prison and the bag."
      7. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 11 November 2016 02: 18
        +2
        Quote: Phosgene
        But what about the Armenian ghoul who killed dozens of bus passengers in his truck in Moscow, he should not sit for life ?!

        All the same, we must understand that we are talking about different things, completely different things. In the case of the truck, the crime is serious, but unintended.
        1. Phosgene
          Phosgene 11 November 2016 10: 58
          0
          In the case of the truck, the killer is obvious, hundreds of witnesses saw him at the crime scene and detained him at the crime scene and evaded punishment. In the case of Permyakov, no one caught him by the hand, and who shot another question there ...
    2. Terrible_L.
      Terrible_L. 10 November 2016 19: 06
      +2
      Maybe someone else should sit a psychiatrist, a medical commission, and who is responsible for what the mentally unfit for service fall into the army

      Do you consider what happened as an accident, due to the simple negligence of officials? Consider me paranoid, but I don't believe in such an accident. It really happened "in time" and in "that place". And it is hefty for our sworn "partners". Take in one fell swoop, and embroil Russia and Armenia
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 10 November 2016 19: 26
        +4
        It is necessary to check the personnel three times before sending them to serve on military bases over the hill. And by the way, ours .... "colleague" Razmik or Ramzik ​​... And what does he think in this opinion? Where is this troll? ...
    3. sherp2015
      sherp2015 10 November 2016 19: 14
      +2
      Quote: Black
      Like it or not, everything is fair. He must sit for life! ... and this is the minimum ... I hope this ghoul will be punished not only on earth.

      Not so simple! I don’t believe that he killed Permyakov ...
      They frightened the kid, scored him, or maybe pumped up drugs - so he took over ...
      1. Terrible_L.
        Terrible_L. 10 November 2016 19: 19
        +4
        Quote: sherp2015
        Quote: Black
        Like it or not, everything is fair. He must sit for life! ... and this is the minimum ... I hope this ghoul will be punished not only on earth.

        Not so simple! I don’t believe that he killed Permyakov ...
        They frightened the kid, scored him, or maybe pumped up drugs - so he took over ...

        I recall the incident in Kazakhstan near Alma-Ata about three years ago, when a border guard conscript allegedly shot his entire outpost and went into the mountains. A few days later he was found and found guilty. Was everything as written in the protocols? Xs xs ...
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 10 November 2016 19: 47
        +4
        Quote: sherp2015
        Not so simple! I don’t believe that he killed Permyakov ...

        But only yesterday, in one program, one girl of 13 years was discussed, who, with her 16-year-old boyfriend, armed with an ax and a bat, decided to dunk her mother and grandmother. Also probably an innocent victim of circumstances.
      3. The black
        The black 10 November 2016 20: 20
        +3
        Well, you never know who believes in disbelief. There was a consequence. He was led not only by local investigators, but also ours. They tried him according to Russian laws. He was kept with us. His guilt has been proved. Was it really beneficial for our side to gloss over him before the Armenians?
      4. Baloo
        Baloo 10 November 2016 21: 23
        +2
        Almost immediately after this tragedy, the media went through various channels, I mean the Russian media:
        Dad Baptist, the sect is a branch of the American sect
        -crime happened on a sect holiday
        - Permyakov is not quite mentally adequate. You see for yourself, the photo in court picks his nose with his finger.
        Perhaps the FSB has already checked everything and issued a determination to the officials who admitted the oligophrenic to military service with carrying weapons, and even abroad. hi
    4. OLD FART
      OLD FART 10 November 2016 20: 49
      +4
      He admitted everything ... I think he will not live long with such guilt in his soul ..
      Forgive Armenia, did not keep track .. hi A terrible tragedy of course .. He will be punished cruelly and pray for death ..
    5. Cat
      Cat 10 November 2016 21: 33
      +3
      The offender must be in jail. And no matter whose "ghoul" he is. The point is not even about "democratic values", but about justice and the inevitability of punishment. Although the "Eskimo" is to blame - answer!
    6. renics
      renics 10 November 2016 22: 04
      +1
      (Will be punished not only on the ground.) Yes, here's how, but where else, apparently underground?
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 11 November 2016 05: 31
        0
        Quote: renics
        (Will be punished not only on the ground.) Yes, here's how, but where else, apparently underground?

        The Last Judgment, Judgment Day - in the eschatology of Abrahamic religions is the last judgment performed by God on people in order to identify the righteous and sinners and determine the reward of the first and the punishment of the last. hi
  2. grau
    grau 10 November 2016 18: 56
    +2
    Quote: Black
    Like it or not, everything is fair. He must sit for life! ... and this is the minimum ... I hope this ghoul will be punished not only on earth.

    Maybe someone else should sit a psychiatrist, a medical commission, and who is responsible for what the mentally unfit for service fall into the army
    1. The black
      The black 10 November 2016 20: 21
      +2
      Should. But let him out?
  3. grau
    grau 10 November 2016 19: 08
    +2
    Quote: Scary_L.
    Maybe someone else should sit a psychiatrist, a medical commission, and who is responsible for what the mentally unfit for service fall into the army

    Do you consider what happened as an accident /. due to the negligence of officials? Consider me paranoid, but I don't believe in such an accident. It really happened "in time" and in "that place". And it is hefty for our sworn "partners"

    I wrote why mentally unfit falls into this fucking army
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      1. Terrible_L.
        Terrible_L. 10 November 2016 19: 15
        +3
        Of course, there are enough dEbilov in the army, but I, excuse me, do not believe in chance
  4. grau
    grau 10 November 2016 19: 36
    +1
    Quote: Scary_L.
    Of course, there are enough dEbilov in the army, but I, excuse me, do not believe in chance

    I do not believe in the case, the FSB should investigate this matter, but we have a counter and a mega special service
  5. ando_bor
    ando_bor 10 November 2016 19: 37
    0
    I was swept by spice, I saw how the brains were disconnected from them - it seems that he could have committed a murder - no other way, now he just doesn’t remember anything and most likely they were trafficked in the injured family, and he used it, - courtyard, because the noise in Armenia so quickly and died down. He was tried in accordance with Armenian laws; according to them, release is possible in 20 years, according to Russian laws, no.
    1. The black
      The black 10 November 2016 20: 42
      +2
      Quote: ando_bor
      He was tried according to Armenian laws; according to them, release is possible after 20 years, according to Russian laws, no

      Judged by ours.
      1. ando_bor
        ando_bor 11 November 2016 08: 46
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        Quote: Black
        Judged by ours.

        Why the appeal by a court decision should have been considered by the Court of Appeal of the Republic of Armenia.
  6. Lumumba
    Lumumba 10 November 2016 19: 40
    0
    And yet I feel a little sorry for him. Life in the "black dolphin" is not sugar. Better immediately to the next world.
    1. Terrible_L.
      Terrible_L. 10 November 2016 19: 50
      +5
      Quote: Lumumba
      And yet I feel a little sorry for him. Life in the "black dolphin" is not sugar. Better immediately to the next world.

      Is it a pity?
      According to the punctures, after 21 shots were fired, the machine gun jammed in Permyakov and he struck 7 (seven!) Times with a bayonet-knife in the chest of an awakening crying six-month-old baby. And after that you say that you Permyakova, this with a gun, sorry?
  7. Buffet
    Buffet 10 November 2016 20: 02
    +1
    . Ruined the family and ruined himself. Parents and relatives now what?
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  9. grau
    grau 10 November 2016 20: 37
    0
    Quote: Black
    Should. But let him out?

    And who then has to sit down so that such a * nya no longer repeats where the transmission is looking
    1. The black
      The black 10 November 2016 20: 41
      +1
      Quote: grau
      And who then has to sit down so that such a * nya no longer repeats where the transmission is looking

      I am not a prosecutor ... and not a judge. Ask them a question.
  10. grau
    grau 10 November 2016 20: 57
    0
    Quote: Black
    Quote: grau
    And who then has to sit down so that such a * nya no longer repeats where the transmission is looking

    I am not a prosecutor ... and not a judge. Ask them a question.

    We are talking about kamisiya and the army, and they are the state, that’s the question
  11. grau
    grau 10 November 2016 21: 00
    0
    This is the state called to check the army examined and who should now answer
    1. Cat man null
      Cat man null 10 November 2016 21: 19
      +3
      Quote: grau
      This is the state called to check the army examined and who should now answer

      - at the time of the call was normal and fit
      - and then suddenly the roof was demolished ... have you ever seen this before?
      - the soldier received a bad letter ... or even SMS. From your girlfriend, for example. And that’s it - get a moron with a gun request
      1. The black
        The black 10 November 2016 21: 42
        +2
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        - at the time of the call was normal and fit
        - and then suddenly the roof was demolished ... have you ever seen this before?
        - the soldier received a bad letter ... or even SMS. From your girlfriend, for example. And that’s it - get a moron with a gun

        That's right. Only some lads cannot be proved. The army, apparently, they saw only in the program "Serving the Fatherland" (at best)
        1. Phosgene
          Phosgene 10 November 2016 21: 53
          0
          If everyone ran to shoot the first people who came to hand because they, temporarily, did not have a personal life, there would be no people left on Earth for a long time ... Don't you think so ?!
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 10 November 2016 22: 00
            +2
            Quote: Phosgene
            If everyone ran ...

            - do not exaggerate
            - it is not necessary that "everything". One idiot with a submachine gun is enough for the entire base of Gyumri once in some-there-years ... It is enough for a voluminous scandal, believe me
            - which, in fact, was the place to be

            Quote: Phosgene
            ... because they, temporarily, did not have a personal life ...

            - I just saw such things myself. I assure you - simply request
            - and ran, and shot ... others, however, did not shoot with me
            - and so - a fighter is the same child, only x ... big nose
            1. Phosgene
              Phosgene 10 November 2016 22: 06
              +1
              If it was moved it would be all the same who to shoot at. On the way, I would have killed someone, but most likely I would have shot myself, or would have gone to kill the offender ... I saw suicide because of unhappy love, and then only once ... And to kill men if a woman walked is silly ... she He’ll find new things for himself, but you still don’t need to, you don’t shoot all the men ... and trying to be silly ..
              1. Cat man null
                Cat man null 10 November 2016 22: 32
                +3
                Quote: Phosgene
                If it were moved ...

                Listen, I’ll say hurtful things now. Although correct. Forced, sorry ...

                - all your judgments are purely theoretical in nature.
                - You did not serve in the army. And they were never in the madhouse.
                - I, unlike you, have been there and there. So, even a fool is a light variant of the army in which I served. And the lid there can easily move out.
                - You have never dealt with the investigative-judicial system either.
                “I didn’t have, as a rule, not as a defendant-suspect-accused ... I had to somehow pull out one kid, for whom I had been blindfolded.” Little did not seem, even to me, although not at all like.
                - the fact that there is not enough evidence - nonsense. Enough bullet fired by their respective assault rifle. An assault rifle is part of a fighter’s body, and he couldn’t fall in love with it. Bullets him? So he killed. Dot.
                - you really behave like a clown, trying to blame everyone and everything indiscriminately (yeah ... all Armenians are to blame for the fact that some Armenian rammed the bus ... well, not nonsense ?!) and urging to use "napalm and cluster munitions "in Syria (that's not even funny. Nonsense patented).
                - In short, Sklifosofsky ... you wouldn’t be so ashamed that way, otherwise, looking at you, people will think that everything in Russians is so ... unbalanced, to put it mildly.

                Quote: Phosgene
                it would be all the same who to shoot at

                - so he shot. "It doesn't matter who."
                - and now he will sit for it. The rules in this life are what to do request

                That's all, actually yes
                1. Phosgene
                  Phosgene 11 November 2016 01: 25
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                  1) Where do you think I wrote that all the Armenians are to blame ?! And I think that one Armenian should be shot, the one who killed people in Moscow. 2) I was not in a madhouse, your truth. 3) I saw a lot of people with weapons, where it is not important, but more than you in 2-3 years of imprisonment in the Soviet army, if then you were still living in a union. So much more than you dreamed of. Yes, there are those from whom you can take the machine gun while the drunk is asleep and kill someone from him and bring him back, I've seen such people myself. 4) We also had to deal with the police, both honest and corrupt, who would make you take over Kenedy's murder, sign a confession ... 5) It doesn't matter who he didn't shoot at. He came to specific people at a specific address and obviously for a reason, and who was shooting there is still a big question ... And about buffoonery, then there will be more of him from you ... However, you are one of those who `` love '' Russia living outside of it, so I don’t want to talk to people like you about how and what is needed in Russia ... You don’t live here and it’s not for you to tell how to live for those who live in the Russian Federation permanently ...
  12. Phosgene
    Phosgene 10 November 2016 21: 00
    +3
    The blackAnd instead of Chikatilo, about a dozen innocent people were shot before they caught him, and it wasn’t a fact that he was a murderer, and not a shabby dreamer who took upon himself these crimes for the sake of dubious fame ... You want to put Permyakov, whom no one caught on the crime scene and release the Armenian, whom everyone saw that he killed ... Well then you are either stupid or Russophobe ...
    1. The black
      The black 10 November 2016 21: 27
      +3
      Quote: Phosgene
      You want to put Permyakov, whom no one had caught at the crime scene, and are letting go of an Armenian whom everyone saw that he killed.

      TovarisCh, I repeat once again if it didn’t reach you for the first time. I am NOT a judge and NOT a prosecutor. I didn’t put Permyakova, I didn’t let go of an Armenian. All questions to the COURT. smile
      . Well then you are either stupid or Russophobe.
      Yes, where can I get to you? Only you are smart, and I ... went out for a walk when the orderly turned away laughing
  13. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 10 November 2016 21: 06
    0
    DO NOT JUDGE AND ... !!!
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  15. Phosgene
    Phosgene 10 November 2016 21: 50
    +2
    Cat Man Null,
    Something no one wrote about the machine gun, I followed the progress of the investigation. Permyakov can only be blamed for desertion and possibly negligent possession of weapons, but no more ... There is no other evidence ... But on what basis the Armenian was released, which in front of hundreds dozens of people killed witnesses ?! What, the Armenian diaspora bought the prosecutor ?!
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 11 November 2016 05: 44
      +1
      What is the manner of taking the conversation aside? In your opinion, all non-Russian drivers who are responsible for car accidents should be blamed for the genocide of the Russian people? request
      1. Phosgene
        Phosgene 11 November 2016 10: 53
        0
        For me, the driver who killed people must be in prison. If in Russia a man is imprisoned for exceeding self-defense, protecting those who are not worth protecting, bandits, then why a foreign scumbag who killed a bunch of people, and it is quite possible intentionally, is not punished for this in all the strictness of the laws ?!
  16. 406ppm2gv
    406ppm2gv 10 November 2016 21: 53
    +2
    [quote = ando_bor] it’s very likely that he could have committed the murder, - no other way, now he just doesn’t remember anything and most likely they were selling them in the injured family, he used it in the yard, too, so he calmed down so quickly noise in Armenia. [/ quote]
    I repeat again. Everything is somehow muddy. A man threw a post in a fortress, went out onto this street (and residential buildings are not close from the fortress) and for some reason went to the 6th house, and not the first or 10th. So he was there before that. He was stoned and someone so unobtrusively brought him under it, or maybe they used his weapons.
  17. Phosgene
    Phosgene 10 November 2016 21: 57
    0
    Lekxnumx,
    My dear, if 10 of your countrymen behave incorrectly, to put it mildly, they will judge you by them, even if you personally will be a saint, because there are many of them, and you are 1.
  18. Bath
    Bath 10 November 2016 23: 06
    +2
    Quote: Black
    Who are attracted to? smile .... Chikatilo too; "red-handed", on the spot ... no one caught ... so what?

    In the Chicatillo case, either two or three were finally allowed into consumption, so the argument is so-so
  19. Evil 55
    Evil 55 11 November 2016 02: 22
    +1
    And the reasons? It's just that people don’t kill each other ..
  20. Bayonet
    Bayonet 11 November 2016 05: 52
    +1
    Quote: Phosgene
    What, the Armenian diaspora bought the prosecutor ?!

    You buy if you are so worried about this fanatic.
    Franklin Roosevelt is credited with the phrase allegedly said by him in 1939: “Somosa, maybe a son of a bitch, but this is our son of a bitch. Very reminiscent of ...
  21. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 11 November 2016 06: 17
    0
    Most likely, this is some mental deviation really. A closed psychiatric hospital is no better than a golden eagle swan, dolphin, etc.
  22. Orionvit
    Orionvit 11 November 2016 06: 30
    +1
    Quote: Cat Man Null
    and then suddenly the roof was demolished ... have you ever seen this before?

    And here the question is first of all to parents, and secondly to army psychologists. In normal people, the roof just doesn’t blow down.
    1. Grim Reaper
      Grim Reaper 11 November 2016 09: 44
      +1
      Even as it blows. Aliens arrive and provide irrefutable evidence that to save the universe you need to wave an ax a couple of times. And the rest is an absolutely normal person. And even ready to suffer punishment, he then knows for sure that the universe is saved. Read that thread on mental illness. There are very interesting stories.
  23. SOF
    SOF 11 November 2016 08: 28
    +2
    Quote: Phosgene
    But what about the Armenian ghoul who killed dozens of bus passengers in his truck in Moscow, he should not sit for life?

    Quote: 210ox
    Well, they climbed into our Kuban another two hundred years ago .. So we live among them. Of course there are different relationships. By the way, they try not to let the rest of the Caucasians here, unlike their neighbors, the Stavropolites. He knows what’s happening, the Russians survive, and the authorities turn a blind eye to it.

    Quote: sisa29
    And Mahmut is probably an old Russian name?

    Quote: KRIG55
    And also Marabaghdasaryan ...

    ..... LET NOW ALL TOGETHER TOGETHER BONES WASH? Of course, Trump defeated Clintonichu, now we will take on ourselves .... It has long been known that the family has its black sheep, so why now such an inadequate reaction arises to the assertion that "Ghoul" is a GHALF?
  24. Phosgene
    Phosgene 11 November 2016 10: 49
    0
    Cat Man Null,
    You should at least go to the doctor to treat sclerosis. You yourself, at one time, spoke out that you don’t live in Russia .... I’m too lazy to look for where you wrote it, but I remembered it, so there’s no need for fairy tales, and even to install your programs to a normal person for nothing.
  25. Prince of Pensions
    Prince of Pensions 11 November 2016 14: 00
    0
    Admins moderators, you are not ofigel? And with such forums here it all begins. Now these hatreds are sowing (I already hate some here) then they will be carried to friends. Play up. It comes around so that later you will wonder why your children and relatives flew in.
    1. Phosgene
      Phosgene 11 November 2016 16: 08
      0
      Or maybe you don’t need to hush up the problem and hide your head in the sand ?! If the police in Khatkovo in time besieged the arrogant visitors and there would be no problem ... And there are many such examples ... You read what chaos is happening in the Stavropol Territory and the authorities are not doing anything in order to put things in order. All this will end in a social explosion. Now it’s not too late to rectify the situation, but tomorrow it may be too late ... And then who will be to blame ?! Again, the Russians who are oppressed in the Stavropol ?! There are more than 80% of Russians in Russia, do you want to violate their rights and think that they will endure endlessly ?! If you think so, then you are not smarter than those who rely on the national minorities to ruin the USSR.