In Zhukovsky, tests of the next modernized IL-38H

The network has pictures of the next modernized anti-submarine aircraft Il-38H, passing flight tests in Zhukovsky near Moscow, reports bmpd.

The first modernized side under the contract of 2015 IL-38N Marine aviation Russian Navy (tail number "11 yellow", serial number 880010308, serial number 103-08, registration number RF-75308, name "Mikhail Verbitsky").

The aircraft with the name “Mikhail Verbitsky” has the tail number “11 yellow” and the registration number RF-75308. This is the seventh modernized Il-38H and the first under the contract from 2015 g for two cars.

The test aircraft was built in 1968 and was part of the Northern Aviation fleet.

Help bmpd: “JSC SV Ilyushin Aviation Complex” in May 2015 entered into a contract with the RF Ministry of Defense for the serial modernization of the next two Il-38 combat planes to IL-38Н, the term of the contract execution - by November 2017. Direct works they are carried out at the 20-th Aviation Repair Plant JSC in Pushkin (repair) and the Moscow VM Myasishchev Experimental Machine-Building Plant JSC based on Zhukovsky (installation of the new search and targeting system Novela-P-38 "produced by JSC" Leninets ")".

Comments

[Demeter]

It is necessary to resume mass production of the IL-18, taking into account new technologies, on the basis of which the IL-38 was created

[siberalt]

So send them to their intended purpose. Just American submarines are spying on our "Kuzey".

[BOB044]

Here is the IL-18 technique for how many years and only serve to modernize. They have no price

[Giant thought]

That's just the speed of modernization and the number of modernized aircraft would increase, I think that the pilots would not be offended by this then.

[Drzed]

yes, from Novokuznetsk to Moscow there was 6 hours of flight, after landing, I didn’t want anything

[Stas157]

Quote: BOB044

Here is the IL-18 technique for how many years and only serve to modernize. They have no price

The most reliable aircraft was at one time. The government even flew on it. What a beautiful one!

[Bath]

so soon we’ll get to silt -2 and the war worker will also serve sho isho will show Kuzkin the mother of her tudes to the swing

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Demeter

resume mass production of IL-18

It was necessary to perfect the Tu-XNUMXs and place reconnaissance and control complexes on this platform.
With state aid, to launch large-scale serial production, so that the Air Force would sit on this plane tightly, civilians and then sales would go for the cordon.

[Demeter]

The United States is using Orions for PLO on the basis of the Electra passenger turboprop airliner, similar to the Il-18. The Il-18 is more reliable, it has two generators on board, and on the Electra and Orion it is 1, which, if the first engine fails, deprives the Americans of all control amplifiers and leads to the failure of all remaining engines. Tu-204 is a good car, but turbojet engines are inferior to turboprop engines in fuel consumption and Carcass does not have such a flight range as Il.

[Rozmyssel]

this radar from above stuck well, very aerodynamic, like a brick;

[GEV67]

And build yourself weak? How bad it was in the USSR ... Until now, what has been built and designed then is being modernized. What's next? After all, even Armata and that of the reserve projects of scientists and designers of the USSR.

[sub307]

Who is the question addressed to? Take it and build .. or in the USSR "forward" on its own! As the saying goes - "criticize - offer."
It is somewhat surprising, but what actually "grabbed" the IL, there are more promising carriers, of their own design, including

[Temples]

What's next?

Then we die (And how else can you answer a similar question?
But the children will live!

[GEV67]

sub307 you are just boor)))

[dik-nsk]

here, grandfathers did - 68th year of release, and so far in the actuality, only the filling has been changed

[NEXUS]

Quote: dik-nsk

here, grandfathers did - 68th year of release, and so far in the actuality, only the filling has been changed

You look at our "Bear", that is, at the TU-95 ...

[lis-ik]

Quote: dik-nsk

here, grandfathers did - 68th year of release, and so far in the actuality, only the filling has been changed

So that's the point of what they did, but the grandfathers, unfortunately, leave, and we are successfully "eating up" their legacy, frankly, all the Russian developments are touched by the USSR. I'm not specifically about IL, about everything new that turns out to be well forgotten old.

[fa2998]

Quote: Demeter

It is necessary to resume mass production of the IL-18, taking into account new technologies, on the basis of which the IL-38 was created

The Il-18 is hopelessly outdated! Yes, in the 90s and in the 18s, you can shaman, but now its "classmates" are written off outright! The aircraft manufacturers have learned to make very economical turbojet aircraft. ammunition) and a large payload. Maybe we will send a really wonderful Il-38 \ 204 aircraft to a well-deserved rest and do a real rearmament. For example, on the basis of the Tu-30. And then the overseas "partners" will have several hundred new modernized) PLO R-8A Poseidon aircraft and we are all "modernizing".

[gray smeet]

Quote: fa2998

And then the overseas "partners" by the year 30 will have several hundred new (NEW not modernized) PLO R-8A "Poseidon" aircraft, and we will "modernize" everything.

brand new Poseidons -108 pieces by 2020 ...

[NEXUS]

Quote from rudolf

On the basis of the Tu-204 anti-submarine version was proposed. The Ministry of Defense twisted its nose and refused. Like, the minimum speed is too high, the time spent on patrol is short. Now it is offered on the basis of the IL-114, but this is not an equivalent replacement for the 38th.

Rudolph, welcome!
Listen, why not the MC-21?

[NEXUS]

Quote from rudolf

It’s bad when the manufacturer can’t do what the customer wants, but even worse when the customer himself does not know what he wants. I'm about the defense ministry.

Perhaps they are looking for a "cheaper and more" option. I see no other explanation.

Quote from rudolf

MS-21 is theoretically possible, but this time is considerable.

Well, why? I’m sure that if you take it quickly, then in a year you can quickly settle everything and calculate, and at the beginning of the 18th year begin the state tests. Well, for now, this will all be done, supplying the troops with what is at the moment.

[NEXUS]

Quote from rudolf

These are the years.

Rudolph, that's why I say, while they will bring everything to mind, buy what is.

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote from rudolf

about even worse when the customer himself does not know what he wants. I'm about the defense ministry.

All the muck and sadness of the situation is that in the country there is no development strategy at all.
for them here if trump .... pump

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote from rudolf

And this is the root of all problems, Phantom. It is in the absence of a development strategy. Just chatter.

My only question is how long will this chatter suit our people?

[Cat man null]

Quote: PHANTOM-AS

... our people ...

- Whose, excuse me, people?
- how many times to repeat: speaking indecent for everyone

[twviewer]

On the basis of the Tu-204 anti-submarine version was proposed.

The Tu 204 is not even digitized, and option 234 would be better suited to the anti-submarine, and even better, as a station wagon a la Poseidon
But it is necessary to work the same and fight for every extra kilogram so that it does not scour the low ones and is on duty for a long time.
Threat to the release of the MS another seven years plus it is necessary to plus, and then in the best case

[twviewer]

Are there any problems in digitization?

of course there are no problems, but this is the first thing to start with, and since even this has not been done, it’s silly to dream about the rest

[twviewer]

what for? calculations, modeling, rearrangement is much simpler and faster to carry out, the plane is far from ideal, albeit not bad

[twviewer]

rudolff, this is so, but the work that can be done with the digitization of 30 engineers, without it, 300 will not be done, and this is also decent money

[twviewer]

lack of a state approach is the main problem.
But accuracy in measurements and finished products has not prevented anyone yet. Right? and maybe "about a miracle" someday we will be able to produce 2 identical aircraft
Threat and Poseidon handsome, with engineering t.z. what to say

[Demeter]

I do not think that an aircraft based on Boeing-737 or Tu-204 will be able to replace Orion or Il-38 in terms of reliability and patrol time.

[Knowing]

And who said that the USSR was a time of stagnation, but ... Until now, modernization in the military-industrial complex is underway, and there is no end to it.

[Pate]

It’s good that he is undergoing tests, but it’s time to start developing the IL-114N to replace the IL-38N, because he can’t serve forever.

[Bayonet]

The test aircraft was built in 1968 g and was part of the Northern Fleet aviation.

However! Some VO participants were also not in the project! What about metal fatigue?

[Zomanus]

Maybe a good plane, but this box is above the cockpit ...
All the same, the plane should look beautiful, like a plane.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Zomanus

Maybe a good plane, but this box is above the cockpit ...

Yes, the aerodynamic lines do not shine, because it was possible to make a more streamlined casing of radio-transparent material. I wonder what caused this?

[Ruby]

Quote: sub307

It is somewhat surprising, but what actually "grabbed" the IL, there are more promising carriers, of their own design, including

And you will actually sound the platforms you are talking about. Is it again Tu204? And what does he know how to hang out over the patrol area at a speed of 350-400 km for 10 hours? Or do you have some information about a top-secret carrier similar to IL18 according to LTX? Over the past week, this is the second news about modernized machines based on the Il18, and in both cases there is a high over the old plane. Yes, he will outlive you gentlemen of criticism. There is no substitute for him either as an anti-submarine, nor as an electronic warfare, nor as an ice reconnaissance to this day. A brilliant aircraft of a brilliant designer.

[Ruby]

And I don’t argue about the stuffing. Of course, electronics for 30-40 went ahead very strongly. That complex, which was on the first version of the aircraft, today can be placed in a small box.
But a zealous owner will never throw away an old, but a working thing. The aircraft has a car of unspent resources. Why should it be written off? Updated electronics and go.
Making a new carrier is several times more expensive, although of course it is necessary. Only here with the base is not yet densely with us. For such airplanes, as a rule, the serial device acts as a carrier (passenger or transport carrier), but somehow I don’t see in our series yet anything except the Superjet, which can’t do such work well.