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Selfie sailor "Peter the Great" allowed to determine the exact coordinates of the Russian warship

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The media reported that the selfie, made by one of the sailors of the missile cruiser “Peter the Great” and published on the Internet, made it possible to give the exact coordinates of the Russian warship. In the edition The washington free bacon An article appeared that said that using a photo published by a Russian naval officer, a journalist named Hans de Frey was able to obtain certain geolocation data and determine that at that time Peter the Great was located east of the coast of the Greek island of Crete.


Selfie sailor "Peter the Great" allowed to determine the exact coordinates of the Russian warship



Whether this information was strictly secret or not was now determined both by the command of a warship and, possibly, by the headquarters of the Russian Navy. Another question is that it is not even about the secrecy / non-secrecy of information, but about elementary discipline in no way an ordinary long-distance hike.

It must be recalled that in 2005, an 010 order was issued by the RF Ministry of Defense, which reported a categorical ban on the use of mobile phones on the territory of military units. Approximately in 4, the requirements of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation were somewhat relaxed and certain spaces and rooms were defined where mobile devices are allowed to use. It is unlikely that the deck of the missile cruiser, which is in a long hike, is the place where the Defense Ministry allows the use of mobile devices, especially with the help of which it is possible to photograph and video with the functions of determining the exact coordinates of the location of a warship. Perhaps this is a formalism in terms of virtually total prevalence of mobile devices, but the fact remains.
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https://twitter.com/hdevreij/status/795220486347075585/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 10 November 2016 07: 01
    +19
    "about elementary discipline during a far from ordinary long-distance campaign."

    Well, got out of the "fuel oil" on the deck, so the tower and demolished from the view. smile
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 10 November 2016 07: 07
      +92
      In general, it is unclear why the seafarers-conscripts have mobile phones, and even with open Internet access during a military operation? belay Nonsense!
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 10 November 2016 07: 10
        +32
        Quote: siberalt
        what for seamen - conscripts mobile phones

        And where did you get the idea that they are conscripts?
        1. Temples
          Temples 10 November 2016 07: 17
          +76
          It’s unlikely that the deck of a long-range missile cruiser is the place where the Ministry of Defense permits the use of mobile devices,

          Journalists, so find out first, and then write. Just one call to a competent person and you will know. And in this case, just to shout to the whole world. Turn off the interpretation. Sculpt from an elephant fly.
          Some kind of Western moron, something has been tricked again, and you have lifted. For you, writing for money, this Russophobe is a source of information. Be ashamed.
          1. Grandfather Luka
            Grandfather Luka 10 November 2016 08: 04
            +66
            In this particular case, the reason may not be very significant, but there are some very recent cases when, due to the presence of personal mobile communications equipment among the military personnel, a convoy on the march fell under the MLRS volley, the result is dozens of corpses of our soldiers, loss of equipment, disruption operas. planning. So this topic is very relevant.
            1. alexej123
              alexej123 10 November 2016 08: 18
              +32
              And here is more detailed. Where and in what year did the columns of our soldiers fall under the MLRS because of mobile phones? Whose MLRS? Do you remember when mobile phones became available? I can recall. Himself, the officer acquired in October 2001. Thank you, my brother helped, he was not available to me. More or less mobile communication has become available since about the second half of 2002. Considering the "workers and peasants" composition of our army, especially at that time, conscripts could not have mobile phones. And whose MLRS? Militants in Chechnya? By that time, they no longer had MLRS, they were hovering through the forests and caches like hunted wolves.
              1. mik6403
                mik6403 10 November 2016 08: 43
                +35
                Last time in the DNI ... a convoy on the march ... one and a half dozen people because of 1 moron ....
                1. alexej123
                  alexej123 10 November 2016 08: 55
                  +10
                  I didn’t think about Donbass, I’m sorry, I’m guilty. Ours are there too.
                  1. Mahmut
                    Mahmut 10 November 2016 10: 11
                    +11
                    Where and in what year did the columns of our soldiers from mobile phones fall under the MLRS?

                    Abkhazia, August 2008.
              2. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 10 November 2016 08: 46
                +10
                Ours I don’t know, but there were cases in the Donbas, Ukrainians swore that in Debaltseve, as soon as you went on the air, immediately the artillery began to peck the place.
              3. Aingof
                Aingof 10 November 2016 10: 05
                +20
                I heard the story in the army. There were no androids in 2008. Nobody called simple tapiks. Change of position - artillery strike on the old one, and so on several times. Until they took out the SIM cards and buried the phones nafig. Any phone, even switched off but with a battery, sends a signal to the "I am here" network. And a SIM card is not needed for this. A telephone is a simple receiver / transmitter only operates on one specific frequency.
                1. DimerVladimer
                  DimerVladimer 11 November 2016 10: 56
                  +1
                  Quote: Aingof
                  I heard a story in the army. 2008 there were no androids yet. No one called simple tapiki. The change of position is an artillery strike on the old one several times. Until they removed the SIM cards and buried the phones nafig.


                  Why bury it?
                  You enter the elevator - connection is lost?
                  It is enough to close the mobile phones in a drawer with walls of magnetic metal (steel-iron) 1,5-3 mm thick, which would completely suppress the signal of the switched on device.
                  Or wrap it in foil - enough to neutralize GPS / GLONAS sensors - this is how truckers fight the Rotenberg tax by wrapping Glonas antennas and becoming stealth cars :).

                  Bury SIM cards and cell phones - this is probably a joke about you, well, or the ensign who gave this order did not go to physics at school.
                  1. Krabik
                    Krabik 11 November 2016 11: 40
                    +2
                    My phone works in an elevator made of iron, as I xs, but the fact remains!
                  2. Pathos
                    Pathos 11 November 2016 15: 24
                    +4
                    It was a funny occasion. Father-in-law climbed into the refrigerator behind the pan with borsch, opened the lid and put it on the table, at that time the mobile rang, he talked on it, put the mobile in a leather case, and the carrying case on a belt with a lid on magnets, and put it on the metal cover of the pan. Naturally the mobile stuck to the pan lid. I scooped up borscht in a plate and closed the lid (the mobile was in a pan stuck to the lid) and put in the refrigerator. Wai !!!! What began an hour later when father-in-law got stuck, you need to call and the phone is gone laughing The subscriber is not a subscriber outside the network coverage area. They turned the whole house upside down, garages, sheds, cars, figured out what pests they could steal, in general James Bond is resting. As a result, they came to the conclusion that the phone was pulled by an unknown force and began to order a new SIM card and buy a new device. Old people brought brains to all households laughing As a result, this mobile device was discovered only the next day at lunch, when my mother-in-law climbed into the refrigerator behind the soup laughing So a working refrigerator is also an option bully
                  3. Aingof
                    Aingof 15 November 2016 06: 45
                    +2
                    It was not a warrant officer who spoke, but a stern colonel. And when they shoot at you, you throw out everything, the iPhone, and the million dollars, and in general you will be so upset that you yourself will be surprised later, if only they did not shoot. Life is more precious. And they buried it most likely with the thought: "Well, get it out of harm's way."
                2. alatanas
                  alatanas 17 November 2016 08: 44
                  0
                  For 2. 1st transmits, 2nd receives. And the frequency itself depends on the channel number in the cell for which the phone is hooked. All this happens depending on the standard in the 900 MHz or 1800 MHz range. And in the signal "I'm here" the phone's IMEI is also sent. This exists in the digital cellular standard itself and is not related to the OS of the phone.
                  1. gladcu2
                    gladcu2 19 November 2016 02: 37
                    0
                    alatanas

                    Mobile phones need a built-in GPS receiver. Such phones appeared later than the described event. Otherwise, to detect a mobile phone you need at least 2 detection stations. The Chechens could have no stations or specialists.
                    1. alatanas
                      alatanas 21 November 2016 08: 27
                      0
                      It is determined what is in the line-of-sight region from the cell, which the phone is "hooked on".
              4. Ustinov 055 055
                Ustinov 055 055 11 November 2016 10: 48
                0
                How could it ?????? The sailors in full were already in 2002
              5. Pathos
                Pathos 11 November 2016 15: 05
                0
                But Dudaev was overwhelmed, agreed on a satellite phone. hi
                1. alexej123
                  alexej123 21 November 2016 09: 01
                  0
                  Do you know the difference between satellite phone and GSM standard? You can guess by the name. How much did satellite communications cost at that time? Did she have soldiers and conscripts? Do not write nonsense.
              6. gladcu2
                gladcu2 19 November 2016 02: 34
                +1
                GPS Started working in 2004-5. Without GPS, built-in mobile phones and special equipment, locating the phone is very difficult.

                Most likely, all these are tales and conjectures. But the train of thought is correct.
            2. parkello
              parkello 10 November 2016 13: 56
              +8
              oh well, here the Greeks wrote that east of Crete, the exercises of the Russian Navy are being held. so there was no secrecy there. and certainly Russian sailors would not fall under the Greek MLRS. But about the ban on the use of mobile in the exercises I agree. here in Tripoli, even when mobiles just went to firing, they took away from everyone. and then in 1996 there were still no cameras on them or access to the Internet.
              1. gladcu2
                gladcu2 19 November 2016 02: 41
                0
                parkello

                There was no secrecy, but there was a violation of discipline.

                I can’t get everyone into it, starting with the Minister of Defense.

                Yes, probably it will be most correct to start with the Minister of Defense.
          2. vell.65
            vell.65 10 November 2016 08: 36
            +37
            From the satellite, and so it is visible where what is located, so stop hysterical. hi
            1. Delink
              Delink 10 November 2016 08: 44
              +9
              I agree! Yes, and if GPS is enabled on a mobile phone, you can determine exactly where the object is.
              1. insular
                insular 10 November 2016 09: 17
                +8
                Quote: vell.65
                From the satellite, and so it is visible where what is located, so stop hysterical.

                That's just out of curiosity, if all the more or less large ships are so clearly visible from the hub that every dog ​​knows their exact coordinates, then why build stealth ships?
                1. Drzed
                  Drzed 10 November 2016 10: 31
                  +2
                  visually, through a telescope, elementary. Yes, and a ship of this class is not a boat, and love is also aerial reconnaissance, etc., etc.
                2. Corsair
                  Corsair 10 November 2016 11: 24
                  +2
                  Quote: insular
                  why build stealth ships?

                  This is visible on the coast of a specific country, if you know where to look, and if against the background of the ocean there are millions of square km of squares you can’t comb all the satellites, and the corresponding color, water waves and even light clouds already create big problems for detection.
                3. kashtak
                  kashtak 10 November 2016 13: 58
                  +3
                  Quote: insular
                  Why build stealth ships?
                  stealth technologies reduce the range of radar detection and tracking no more. From optical reconnaissance from satellites or aircraft, this does not help. stealth, though a useful thing, but still not an invisible hat.
                  1. insular
                    insular 11 November 2016 02: 44
                    0
                    Quote: kashtak
                    stealth technologies reduce the range of radar detection and tracking no more

                    What for? After all, everyone knows everything from the satellite and from the geolocation of the phones of sailors ...))
                    Why do radars, if there is a miracle satellite?
                    I understand. This is a joke for those who write nonsense that the sailor gave out the secret of the panel ...
                    1. kashtak
                      kashtak 11 November 2016 08: 16
                      +1
                      Yes, where are the secrets. the question is different. in the requirement, without hesitation, to mechanically execute absolutely everything and literally. any order or order. as the old man Suvorov said, "do not stick to the charter like a blind wall" or "I order to the left. You can better command to the right on the spot," and so on.
                      1. V.ic
                        V.ic 11 November 2016 10: 51
                        +1
                        Quote: kashtak
                        as the old man Suvorov said "do not stick to the charter like a blind wall"

                        Not Suvorov, but Peter 1.
                        "Do not adhere to the charter, like a blind wall, for the orders are written there, but there are no times and occasions, for that sake one should have reasoning" (Peter I's note to the charter commission for revising the military regulations of 1716).
                    2. kashtak
                      kashtak 11 November 2016 08: 36
                      0
                      Quote: insular
                      What for? After all, everyone knows everything from the satellite and from the geolocation of the phones of sailors ...))

                      that's another question. where did the "journalist" get the personal data of the sailors. After all, not an accidental "demobilization" photo posted.
              2. Stas Snezhin
                Stas Snezhin 10 November 2016 10: 00
                +9

                And no geolocation ..
                1. stas132
                  stas132 10 November 2016 11: 09
                  +7
                  At the base stations, this bestseller can also be covered, there will be a small error, for the very thing.
                2. mav1971
                  mav1971 10 November 2016 16: 41
                  +2
                  Quote: Stas Snezhin

                  And no geolocation ..


                  No geotagging.
                  And the location on it is beautiful.
                  For he is the source of the radio signal.
            2. Kent0001
              Kent0001 10 November 2016 10: 38
              +1
              An absolutely sensible idea. And our sworn friends always know where "Peter" staggers .... without any selfies with the sailors.
            3. mav1971
              mav1971 10 November 2016 16: 40
              +1
              Quote: vell.65
              From the satellite, and so it is visible where what is located, so stop hysterical. hi


              From the satellite you can see only a very limited time, a fairly limited period and only once per revolution ...
              Keep this in mind.
              Species intelligence satellite cannot hang on a geostationary. For 36 thousand kilometers is not buzzing ...
            4. vova1973
              vova1973 11 November 2016 10: 29
              0
              not always visible from satellite
          3. vinc
            vinc 10 November 2016 09: 07
            +9
            And these "selfies" do not help
            The last joke, of course, but the whole of Europe saw through the window, submarines are winding circles, satellites and radars for a conditional enemy do not know why at all ... And then a super investigator American journalist appears and finds the same "Kuzyu".
            1. serguchcho
              serguchcho 10 November 2016 09: 23
              +6
              These "selfies" only help to see the eruption of Mount Etna in 2002-2003.
              1. vinc
                vinc 10 November 2016 09: 35
                +4
                Especially for you under the last picture is written - "The last joke of course"
                1. serguchcho
                  serguchcho 10 November 2016 09: 36
                  0
                  Now signed. Thank.
        2. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 10 November 2016 08: 54
          +5
          Quote: Vladimirets
          And where did you get the idea that they are conscripts?

          And why did they get that it was from the deck of Peter the Great?
          Maybe men drove to Greece on a boat for beer?
        3. Amurets
          Amurets 10 November 2016 09: 02
          +5
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Quote: siberalt
          what for seamen - conscripts mobile phones

          And where did you get the idea that they are conscripts?

          In 1940, a high-ranking dad in Berlin asked how his son at sea felt when the battleship Bismarck broke through to Germany after the sinking of LKR Hood. The result was the death of Germany's newest ship and the son of a "curious" dad.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 10 November 2016 09: 29
            +3
            In 1940, one senior


            What year?
            1. Amurets
              Amurets 10 November 2016 09: 40
              +2
              Quote: alexmach
              In 1940, one senior


              What year?

              Excuse me ! Wrong. 1941 year Links: http://www.rulit.me/books/tajny-anglijskoj-razved
              ki-1939-1945-read-324275-51.html
              https://topwar.ru/30767-ohota-na-bismark-may-1941
              -g.html
          2. kashtak
            kashtak 10 November 2016 10: 12
            +2
            Quote: Amurets
            In 1940, a senior dad in Berlin asked how his son feels at sea.

            invented it yourself? a good tale for conscripts from the countryside will do. The Bismarck was spotted by a British aircraft. even if he had not been on the air, his coordinates and course were already known. there was no high-ranking dad.
            1. Amurets
              Amurets 10 November 2016 10: 30
              0
              Quote: kashtak
              Quote: Amurets
              In 1940, a senior dad in Berlin asked how his son feels at sea.

              invented it yourself? a good tale for conscripts from the countryside will do. The Bismarck was spotted by a British aircraft. even if he had not been on the air, his coordinates and course were already known. there was no high-ranking dad.

              Kashtaku! Read carefully what happened on May 25, 1941. Wil Berhold. The death of the battleship Bismarck.
              1. kashtak
                kashtak 10 November 2016 10: 45
                +1
                Quote: Amurets
                Kashtaku! Read carefully what happened on May 25, 1941. Wil Berhold. The death of the battleship Bismarck.

                read
          3. Kent0001
            Kent0001 10 November 2016 10: 41
            +4
            So the "Bismarck" had a 40-minute communication session with the base in Brest, then it was taken by the Angles.
        4. kapitan92
          kapitan92 10 November 2016 09: 06
          +8
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Quote: siberalt
          what for seamen - conscripts mobile phones

          And where did you get the idea that they are conscripts?

          And what's the difference conscripts or not! Unfortunately, we have enough fools in the sun. More questions to ship officers and security services.
        5. WKS
          WKS 10 November 2016 10: 09
          +6
          Normal guys, necks pumped up, let them admire our sailors from the cruiser in the west. And the coordinates from the satellites are determined if anyone needs it. Stupidity is from a photograph.
          1. 34 region
            34 region 10 November 2016 13: 50
            0
            10.09. VKS! But didn’t you have to watch photos with reference to the area? Interesting thing. You look at the photo and look at the map where it is taken. A wonderful thing for civilians and the military.
            1. saturn.mmm
              saturn.mmm 10 November 2016 15: 51
              +1
              Quote: Region 34
              But didn’t you have to watch photos with reference to the area?

              And what is the sea bluer in this place, or determine by helicopter? They could determine their location when transmitting data on the Internet, but it’s ridiculous to say that they are on board Peter the Great from photographs.
              that using a photograph published by a Russian naval seaman, a journalist named Hans de Frey was able to obtain certain geolocation data and determine that at that time Peter the Great was located east of the coast of the Greek island of Crete.

              Did he get geolocation data using a photograph?
              Geolocation (English geolocation) - determination of the real geographical location of an electronic device, such as a radio transmitter, cell phone or computer connected to the Internet.
              1. mav1971
                mav1971 10 November 2016 16: 45
                0
                Quote: saturn.mmm

                Did he get geolocation data using a photograph?


                yeah
                Read about geotagging
                http://gogetsmarts.com/chto-takoe-geotegging-v-sm
                artfone /
              2. romaniron
                romaniron 11 November 2016 10: 54
                0
                And judging by the pictures, the guys themselves on Instagram could write where they serve and where they take photos)))).
        6. PHANTOM-AS
          PHANTOM-AS 10 November 2016 10: 28
          +7
          the fact is that now you can safely calculate a person by mobile and send a surprise to these coordinates.
          Even the cops say that the lion's share of crimes is revealed due to the use of mobile phones
          On my own behalf, I believe that military personnel should use communication devices at a certain time, in the prescribed manner and through closed communication channels ..
        7. Drzed
          Drzed 10 November 2016 10: 34
          0
          somehow more like contractors
        8. Arikkhab
          Arikkhab 10 November 2016 13: 53
          +1
          and where is in the middle of the Mediterranean Sea (judging by the attached map with the estimated coordinates) is the Internet?
        9. Baloo
          Baloo 10 November 2016 19: 19
          +1
          Do you know the orders? Did you get a subscription? Now we need to answer everyone for dis ... slobbering a particular eccentric with a mobile. fool
      2. Lord_Bran
        Lord_Bran 10 November 2016 07: 19
        +15
        More interestingly, where did he get to the sea (!!!) from the Internet. As far as I understand, there are not so many repeaters there.
        But about the presence of mobile phones - their specials. they are looking for an instrument with an outgoing / incoming signal. And here is a clear oversight.
        But now it’s precisely known that surveillance is possible even at sea.
        1. avg-mgn
          avg-mgn 10 November 2016 07: 33
          +20
          And where did you get that he was on the Internet at all? Sotik constantly knocks and his exact location from a satellite or reconnaissance aircraft is easily tied by specialists. If there was no Sotik, satellite imagery to help, accuracy is not lower. Article PR JPS and only /
          The very fact of violation of the order is the topic of discussion. Gouge the sailor and his commanders ... times.
          1. aba
            aba 10 November 2016 08: 09
            +9
            Gouge the sailor and his commanders ... times.

            Yes, you just had to turn off the geolocation for the camera ... They will buy a device, but there’s not enough mind to master the functionality.
            1. Slon1978
              Slon1978 10 November 2016 09: 40
              +1
              Something I'm not catching up with ... Geologization allows you to beat off the position of the phone, but how does this relate to the photo taken with this phone? Coordinates are registered in some kind of "metadata" of the photo file ???
              1. The Little Humpbacked Horse
                The Little Humpbacked Horse 10 November 2016 10: 08
                +6
                Quote: Slon1978
                Coordinates are registered in some kind of "metadata" of the photo file ???


                Yes, they are registered if the recording of location data in the camera settings is enabled
          2. Alex_59
            Alex_59 10 November 2016 08: 42
            +1
            Quote: avg-mgn
            Sotik constantly knocks and his exact location from a satellite or reconnaissance aircraft is easily tied by specialists.

            Stanislav Lem nervously smokes on the sidelines. laughing Technology has not yet reached such a level, thank God ...
            1. avg-mgn
              avg-mgn 10 November 2016 10: 26
              +3
              Have a smoke with Lem ... I am cleverly silent.
              1. Alex_59
                Alex_59 10 November 2016 11: 00
                +3
                Quote: avg-mgn
                Have a smoke with Lem ... I am cleverly silent.

                For a sotik to "knock" it must be connected (GPRS, GSM or A-GPS). Those. in line of sight at a distance of no more than 3-4 km, there should be at least two base stations of cellular communication. There are not many of them on the high seas, I would even say that they are absolutely not there. To take a sotik signal when searching for a network ... Well, again - the scout must be within the line of sight at a distance of 3-4 km, because this signal is very weak (so that the user's brain does not boil). And Glonass and GPS do not broadcast anything, they only receive it.
                1. stas132
                  stas132 10 November 2016 11: 20
                  +4
                  GSM900 with a transmitter power of about 30 watts "finishes" about 30 km, in an open area, when the base station antenna is installed at an elevation of 30-40 meters (this is a house, a communication mast, or both, for example). GSM1800 is weaker, but will finish off by 5-7 km. The phone, with its transmitter power of about 3 watts, freely sends its tag to the base station at the same distance. You don't have to send data or call, but you will be exposed in any case. For the channels of the special services, the same Ministry of Emergency Situations, a SIM card is not needed at all.
                  1. Alex_59
                    Alex_59 10 November 2016 11: 43
                    +3
                    Quote: stas132
                    The phone, with its transmitter power of about 3 watts, freely sends its tag to the base station at the same distance.

                    But not at sea and not via satellite. In the city, yes. And without a SIM card, and generally disabled - maybe. If you do not want to light up - remove the battery from the phone. And by the way, do not believe the anti-identifiers of numbers and other nonsense - at the time of the call in the service packages, not only your number is transmitted, but also the phone’s IMEI and your last name and other data. But through the satellite or in the absence of a base station, it will not be possible to determine the location of the sotik. Unless of course you have slipped some special sotik, especially for you.
                2. nerd.su
                  nerd.su 10 November 2016 11: 39
                  +1
                  Quote: Alex_59
                  Direction finding a sotik signal when searching for a network ... Well, again - the scout should be within line of sight at a distance of 3-4 km

                  All the same, up to 10 km, plus / minus a couple more km. From this distance to the base station, you can talk if the terrain allows.
                3. Seaman77
                  Seaman77 10 November 2016 13: 04
                  +3
                  Quote: Alex_59
                  For a sotik to "knock" it must be connected (GPRS, GSM or A-GPS). Those. in line of sight at a distance of no more than 3-4 km, there should be at least two base stations of cellular communication. There are not many of them on the high seas, I would even say that they are absolutely not there.


                  At sea, on an open deck, the mobile "takes" for 10-12 miles. But I think they were calculated not by a signal, but by a photo. I can't enlarge the photo from the article, but most likely the shore is visible in the background. Look at the map - there is a mountain of 812 meters and such a mountain in good weather can be seen well sooo far. And judging by the photo, the weather was good.
            2. mav1971
              mav1971 10 November 2016 17: 03
              +1
              Quote: Alex_59
              Quote: avg-mgn
              Sotik constantly knocks and his exact location from a satellite or reconnaissance aircraft is easily tied by specialists.

              Stanislav Lem nervously smokes on the sidelines. laughing Technology has not yet reached such a level, thank God ...


              I read somewhere that the AFAR AN / APG-81 that is installed on the F-35 has the ability to work on frequencies and over Wi-Fi protocols - in the 802.11 standards of all available versions.
              Those. be like a repeater, transmitter, receiver, access point, etc.

              If they can use such an application, then against stupid people it is an excellent means of searching and recognizing enemies.
              I launched an open access point - I ventilated the surrounding area for those smartphones whose Wi-Fi is not turned off by default and are automatically connected to open networks.
              Smarts begin to synchronize contacts, photos, messages, programs - analyze a bunch of information as you want. A lot of information can be obtained.
              Simulating the operation of the GSM core network is also quite simple.

              Install such systems on small-sized UAVs - a "holiday" for adults ...
          3. Stas157
            Stas157 10 November 2016 09: 33
            +7
            Quote: avg-mgn
            And where did you get that he was on the Internet at all?

            You saw a photo of sailors, they didn’t send this photo to the social network via bluetooth. I also had a question where did the sailors of the Internet take it, what is it that they distribute there?
            1. avg-mgn
              avg-mgn 10 November 2016 09: 41
              +1
              And who said they posted it from the place of shooting?
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 10 November 2016 14: 06
                +3
                Quote: avg-mgn
                And who said they posted it from the place of shooting?

                Do you think the sailors on Crete ran from the ship?
            2. Corsair
              Corsair 10 November 2016 11: 33
              +4
              Quote: Stas157
              You saw a photo of sailors, they didn’t send this photo to the social network via bluetooth. I also had a question where did the sailors of the Internet take it, what is it that they distribute there?

              Duc they to Weifai amerskogo ship laughing , there must be bundles circling around Kuzi. But in reality, they could have taken off the photo in the port, smartphones are now registering the geolocation in the data for the photo, if not disabled, and there are doubts whether it is being recorded where it is encrypted without explicit access - this is such a bonus for special services.
            3. Baloo
              Baloo 10 November 2016 19: 24
              0
              A rocket hit Dudayev during his telephone conversation with a friend of Novodvorskaya.
              From Niva there were only one scraps.
          4. kapitan92
            kapitan92 10 November 2016 09: 39
            +5
            Quote: avg-mgn
            The very fact of violation of the order is the topic of discussion. Gouge the sailor and his commanders ... times.

            I completely agree with this!
            Does anyone think the missile cruiser in the middle of the world is a needle in a haystack? A hundred years ago, maybe, but it was "led" from the base, like any ship of this class. Fortunately, there are enough reconnaissance means, and then do not forget that all the straits are controlled by NATO.
          5. Dryuya2
            Dryuya2 10 November 2016 09: 48
            0
            Quote: avg-mgn
            Gouge the sailor and his commanders ... times.

            why not consider the option what that this is not a selfie, but a "selfie" for ̶п̶р̶о̶т̶и̶в̶н̶и̶к̶а̶ "partners" - from the series "Ale !! We are here" do not lose us.
          6. Sashka
            Sashka 10 November 2016 10: 11
            +5
            I heard somewhere that there is an Internet on Kuz ... And now you can use mobile phones to communicate with relatives. And to contractors, all the more. Another thing is that when secrecy requires it, everyone is informed that the mobile phones should be disconnected, the battery should be removed. Well, just in case, include jammers. I think it’s similar on Kuz. So, nothing terrible happened, and this was permissible at that time. Well, in relation to the coordinates of Kuzi- it is no secret to anyone, because everyone who is not lazy follows him.
            PS Near one headquarters, next to which I often visited, in one city, on certain days when there was an "alarm" or some other event, for about another 1 km, no communications, no car alarms, or radio equipment worked around. So, I think, when it takes time, and on Kuza no one will be able to use mobiles ...
            Good day!
        2. Tusv
          Tusv 10 November 2016 07: 56
          +3
          Quote: Lord_Bran
          More interestingly, where did he get to the sea (!!!) from the Internet. As far as I understand, there are not so many repeaters there.

          Adnak Technologies. For a long time already they put on the masts. A box of only 30 by 30 cm, but provides free internet for a hundred kilometers
        3. alllll
          alllll 10 November 2016 08: 06
          +1
          First they took a picture, and then they caught a net near the shore and sent it.
        4. kashtak
          kashtak 10 November 2016 09: 58
          +1
          Quote: Lord_Bran
          But now it’s precisely known that surveillance is possible even at sea.

          surveillance at sea ... what kind of radar are on the cruiser? Against this background, the phone is how to make a fallen match next to the tank column on the march. let's say the area east of Crete was identified by the color of the water, what did it give? In what area does he know all who need and do not need. the classic, the subordinate is to blame for everything that was and what was not because the subordinate. it is one thing to break the radio silence of a small group of forest terrain during covert movement, and quite another thing is AUG which is already under constant surveillance from several points. I immediately remembered the distorted maps of the times of the past for disorientation of enemies, although everyone knew that satellite maps give accuracy to the last tree. discipline has not been canceled, as is elementary paranoia. I would understand if someone from a group of specialists would light up with such a selfie, or something that is secret was caught in the frame. Want the nuances of pulling up discipline? pick up a clear argument or it will work directly in the opposite direction.
      3. Lukich
        Lukich 10 November 2016 07: 39
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        moreover, with open Internet access in

        nonsense, this is the Internet on the high seas. and where in the photo is there at least one link to a specific place? fake it. samopiar, if not worse
        1. alexej123
          alexej123 10 November 2016 08: 19
          +5
          If the geolocation function is turned on, then there’s a drum, whether there are landmarks on the photo or not. Gives a place.
        2. kashtak
          kashtak 10 November 2016 10: 27
          0
          Quote: Lukich
          fake it. samopiar, if not worse

          rather, an elementary illiterate imitation of discipline maintenance activities.
      4. 70BSN
        70BSN 10 November 2016 07: 55
        +2
        hi sibiralt. Well and what is the nonsense ??? Does he have STELS technology! Yes, and the Mediterranean is not the ocean!
        BIG SHIP - BIG SWIMMING! smile
      5. Finches
        Finches 10 November 2016 08: 41
        +1
        This is the work of the world’s and specialists ... but, as they say, with a little scowl, in our Ground Forces, where aviation and navy begin, discipline ends ... laughing
        1. cannabis
          cannabis 10 November 2016 08: 53
          +3
          The infantry has a clear order - two clowns per 100 people. For aviation, 8 clowns for 10 people do not spare there.
      6. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 10 November 2016 09: 15
        +2
        Quote: siberalt
        In general, it is not clear why mobile seafarers, with open access to the Internet during a military operation, are why sailors are conscripts? Nonsense!

        These pictures with Kuzi in the internet are fully laid out and fresh too. Or Kuzya hid so much. That no one could have him. Until the selfies were laid out.
        Everyone knows where he is now. What is the secret?
        1. Koshak
          Koshak 10 November 2016 09: 56
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Everyone knows where he is now. What is the secret?

          How do you not understand that this is not about the location of "Petit" or "Kuzi", but about disunity and violation of orders. In particular, about the use of mobile phones and cameras. Specialists should be interested in these two faces.
      7. Pu239
        Pu239 10 November 2016 12: 14
        +1
        If the option is enabled in the smartphone, then GPS coordinates are recorded in the jpeg file at the time of the photo.
      8. GSH-18
        GSH-18 10 November 2016 13: 28
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        In general, it is unclear why the seafarers-conscripts have mobile phones, and even with open Internet access during a military operation? belay Nonsense!

        If you do not know how to use a mobile phone, deposit it with a pulled out battery! Is that so? I posted a photo with geolocation!! fool Draw a target in your backside!
      9. edge
        edge 11 November 2016 03: 44
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        Why do seamen - conscripts mobile phones, and even with open Internet access during a military operation?

        firstly, who said that he was a conscript: secondly, satellite-based surveillance equipment already sees everything: thirdly, it is necessary to punish in order to eliminate the habit of surrendering comrades soldier
      10. Dok.
        Dok. 11 November 2016 10: 31
        0
        And to deprive a sailor / soldier of a conscript phone is almost impossible. If he himself (!) Does not understand, no measures will help. For, despite the prohibitions, buying a phone in part is not a problem.
      11. killganoff
        killganoff 12 November 2016 09: 24
        0
        There are no conscripts on the warships and ships of the Navy for a long time "!
      12. antivirus
        antivirus 12 November 2016 14: 34
        0
        Fifty dollars get + fighting and walk like a young lady on the boulevard.
    2. Rozmyssel
      Rozmyssel 10 November 2016 07: 13
      +7
      it’s as if this smoke is not visible from any coast of the Mediterranean Sea. However, if the sailor had had our telephone, it would not have been so easy to detect it. laughing
    3. sub307
      sub307 10 November 2016 07: 28
      +24
      "Delirium after midnight" .... "... that's the tower and demolished ..." This "demolished the tower" from the media. The coordinates of any aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean Sea are not a "secret", otherwise the satellites all of a sudden went out of orbits, chtoli ... Well, then no one hid the entire route of the transition and the final destination, right up to the messages of all this in the media and it’s not a secret for anyone that as soon as our ships leave theirs, they are tightly "led" by the intelligence of all NATO countries. Only atomic submarines, but not diesel-electric submarines, have chances to keep the transition hidden.
      1. Giant thought
        Giant thought 10 November 2016 07: 49
        +8
        Violation of the order prohibiting the use of a mobile phone in a military campaign may well lead the offender to the tribunal, so that others would be advised to violate orders.
        1. nerd.su
          nerd.su 10 November 2016 11: 46
          +3
          Quote: Thought Giant
          Violation of the order banning the use of a mobile phone in a military campaign

          But is there such an order in general, and in this case in particular?
    4. dsm100
      dsm100 10 November 2016 08: 07
      +4
      Toilets to brush with a toothbrush until the end of the trip
    5. Bath
      Bath 10 November 2016 09: 10
      +2
      select phones tablets and other utensils nah wanted poobshatsi write a letter
    6. mav1971
      mav1971 10 November 2016 22: 00
      +5
      Quote: Vladimirets

      Well, got out of the "fuel oil" on the deck, so the tower and demolished from the view. smile


      Let's talk about the real potential consequences.
      I know very little about this subject, but I will write what I know.
      There will be 2 relatively short points in which I will try to "expand" the functionality at least a little.

      Item 1. A modern smartphone is controlled by the OS and contains programs that have certain rights to access certain OS functions and smartphone components. Functions of photo, video recording, voice recording. Various accelerometers, gyroscopes, etc.
      It also has means of data transfer in several types of networks with their standards and protocols, means of global and local positioning.
      Smartphone Application:
      a) calls, SMS by contacts (exchange of voice and text data, through base stations, routers with the definition of the IMEI of each party and binding to the contact if the "interested" party is in demand)
      b) data transfer in social networks and instant messengers (photo, video, text, voice - in general, full and total access to the contents of the smartphone)
      c) the use of third-party software (for every taste and wallet - also almost complete and total control of not only the contents of the smartphone, but also the owner). Third-party software is just a mine for a spy. Have installed a toy controlled by a gyroscope and an accelerometer - get the possibility of 95% recognition of the entered password on the desktop keyboard of a computer / laptop due to the super-miraculous change in the position of the table (its vibration) + acoustic vibrations (the keyboard buttons are still "different" and are subject to selection when pressed + mathematical algorithm for calculating the time of typing different symbols in accordance with human physiology, just because the smartphone is lying on the same table ...
      And many, many other "features" of total surveillance ...
      Like fake base stations and fake free / open Wi-Fi access points.
      Fake BS and TD - you can hang it on any "stump", place it on any UAV - and the smartphone in your pocket will immediately display the required information.

      Item 2.
      About which 99,99% of the world's population does not know.
      That "thing" called "Big Data".
      "Big Data" is a specially accumulated array of information. All information. Generally.
      Calls, SMS, correspondence. contacts, mail, advertising. read books, articles and pages on the Internet, forums, social networks. jokes and much. much more. - All the world's information junk is collected in data warehouses.
      Absolutely useless in general.
      But ...
      There is one "but".
      All the best psychologists, analysts and semantics of our time work specifically for "Big Data".
      Modern algorithms for machine analysis make it possible to collect from the "garbage heap" - the grains of pearls.
      An example for those. who is ready to understand the scale.
      The main, indicative, advertising.
      A girl of 12 years began to receive offers from pregnant women from a huge online store.
      Dad found out - sued.
      The trial has begun. It all comes down to a store error. The girl is 12 years old, not a single request for such products on her part. the store is ready to apologize and compensation.
      But then it turns out that the girl is really pregnant, which no one knew about, including herself!
      This year, the store began to use "Big Data" for machine analysis of queries and, according to its analyzed third-party (!!!) queries, decided that she was pregnant!
      Modern psychology, multiplied by Big Data machine analysis algorithms, works wonders.

      I will repeat myself. I don't know much where the limit of the possibilities of the realities of the modern compilation system "Big Data" + data from smartphones is.
      But the scenario is that she is for sure can.
      1. Photo with a geotag from an ordinary soldier - received a "starting" IMEI
      2. Having IMEI - we get access to the smartphone and its contents. Accounts and passwords in social networks, correspondence, photo-video gallery, installed programs and games, a list of base stations on which there was a connection in the last 3-6-12 months and more.
      3. Having gained access to a smartphone, we can begin to control it totally. When and where it moves. Who is talking and what. What surnames, what intonations.
      4. We begin to monitor the IMEI of those devices that are very often next to the "starting" one. We analyze them. Meticulous and scrupulous.
      5. We identify all the commanders of the warhead. Than they live and breathe. what worries and problems they have. Psychologists define "reference points" - life moments and situations in which they can "break". And everyone can break - the main thing is to "come up" at the right moment. The most important thing is that the situation can now be "created".
      And all this is done by "Big Data". Only machine analysis, no human participation. People are needed only for "turnarounds" for a specific goal, a specific person.
      There are no iron people - there is only ignorance of the method of influence. Where. when and what to press, that would break. and this could be "Big Data".
      This is what one photo taken by a stupid person can lead to.
      1. Weles86.
        Weles86. 9 February 2018 23: 37
        0
        Right now, it’s right that I really wanted to throw the mobile phone away, it’s even scary somehow.
    7. GYGOLA
      GYGOLA 12 November 2016 20: 34
      0
      Selfie sailor "Peter the Great" allowed to determine the exact coordinates of the Russian warship

      laughing laughing laughing soldier
  2. domokl
    domokl 10 November 2016 07: 05
    +39
    Huh ... "Peter the Great" is such an inconspicuous ship ... Secrecy is certainly necessary. But not to insanity ...
    1. midivan
      midivan 10 November 2016 07: 18
      +5
      Quote: domokl
      Huh ... "Peter the Great" is such an inconspicuous ship ... Secrecy is certainly necessary. But not to insanity ...

      request Indeed, especially in the Mediterranean Sea, from the bell tower you can see wassat , they started a panic, but I didn’t want to get into the hands of these sailors alive laughing
      1. Krabik
        Krabik 10 November 2016 07: 55
        +1
        In my opinion, nice guys%)
        1. Koshak
          Koshak 10 November 2016 10: 09
          +2
          Quote: Krabik
          In my opinion, nice guys%)

          And tomorrow these "nice guys" will take a picture and post the faces of our pilots in Syria.
          1. Krabik
            Krabik 10 November 2016 10: 48
            0
            If that I do not support them!
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 12 November 2016 14: 40
        0
        Is it possible to determine the level-deck-floor-kubrick-post by geolocation? then the conclusion ...
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  3. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 10 November 2016 07: 07
    +7
    Yes, okay, whoever needs to know the position of the ship anyway!
    1. ramzes1776
      ramzes1776 10 November 2016 07: 15
      +22
      This is simply shown as an example, but how many of these comrades our "non-brothers" have calculated from which parts they are from the photo "Vkontakte" in the Donbas and in Syria. On the lip should be planted on the first with a preventive conversation, and if it does not come, then judge as a traitor.
      1. nazar_0753
        nazar_0753 10 November 2016 08: 01
        +1
        So there is no that lip now
      2. Yarik
        Yarik 10 November 2016 08: 07
        +3
        Yes, not to plant on the lip, but simply humanely, carefully, fill the bread box in front of the ranks and in FIGs throw them out of the location into another, NOT dangerous, place of service.
        1. your1970
          your1970 10 November 2016 08: 43
          +5
          Yarik
          From the location of the unit - overboard or something ?????? !!!!!
          1. Yarik
            Yarik 10 November 2016 14: 50
            0
            on a turntable, on a tanker, in the ass, anywhere and far away, but not further than the coast
      3. MarioG
        MarioG 10 November 2016 08: 09
        +1
        Quote: ramzes1776
        they figured out what parts they were from the photo "Vkontakte" in the Donbas and in Syria.

        Well, it's vacationers at the resort. Nuvsamomtodele (no) laughing
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        2. insular
          insular 10 November 2016 08: 49
          +1
          PALISTIN PESTEVE Where do you post your comments about vacationers then?
      4. kashtak
        kashtak 10 November 2016 10: 42
        +2
        Well, they figured out these sailors as employees on "Peter the Great" and what did it give? open the newspaper "red star" there is a dime a dozen of such intelligence.
      5. killganoff
        killganoff 12 November 2016 09: 28
        0
        Guys from the "satellite". Is this photo really taken in Donbass?
  4. sgazeev
    sgazeev 10 November 2016 07: 13
    +2
    Write off to a desert island. lol
  5. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 10 November 2016 07: 14
    +14
    Generally demolished the tower? Or are people no longer capable of neutralizing gadgets? How much has been said about the dangers of all these Google accounts and other instagrams ... Fuck to take selfies with enabled geolocation! In general, you need to turn off location tracking on your smartphone!
    And on the other hand, how did this picture from the ship get into the network? Or have you already installed a bunch of Beeline and MegaFon towers in the sea? And three ji off the coast of Syria almost like in the suburbs? Or is there a bunch of routers on Petra with free Wi-Fi and satellite access? Perhaps the picture came later in the network, already at home. Then the relevance of the coordinates is zero, but the problems of using a smartphone with geolocation on board the vessel does not remove!
    1. sergeyzzz
      sergeyzzz 10 November 2016 07: 38
      +6
      Generally speaking, the picture shows that Greece is nearby, it means they got online through their towers, though it probably came to him a pretty penny, but there is a plus in this - now the whole world knows how everyone can be tracked by the work of his gadget .
      1. Yarik
        Yarik 10 November 2016 08: 05
        0
        Yes, not to put on the lip and just humanly, carefully, fill the bakery in front of the ranks
        1. Shadowcat
          Shadowcat 10 November 2016 09: 40
          0
          But this is a criminal. Violation of subordination in relation to the junior in rank. With this strictly.
      2. ghby
        ghby 10 November 2016 11: 54
        0
        Quote: sergeyzzz
        the truth is probably it flew him a pretty penny

        to the ruble :)
  6. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 10 November 2016 07: 15
    +1
    Did the journalist track?
    1. Shurik70
      Shurik70 10 November 2016 07: 42
      +21
      In modern photos, the coordinates are encoded in the photo itself. If GPS is on.
      So ANY calmly on a photo of a mushroom glade will determine where it is a mushroom place.
      Just download the photo to your computer and see its property


      So the guys need to be punished both for the photo on the deck, and for the geolocation not turned off.
      1. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 10 November 2016 07: 58
        +6
        And considering what J. Assange said about the capabilities of webcams, it’s weak for me to believe that disabling the location will help.
        I am paranoid.
  7. tinibar
    tinibar 10 November 2016 07: 16
    +2
    Quote: Retvizan 8
    Yes, okay, whoever needs to know the position of the ship anyway!

    Yes, but there must be discipline!
  8. Moore
    Moore 10 November 2016 07: 18
    +13
    If you sweep away all emotions in the bottom line, we have:
    1. Hydro-soldiers violated an unqualified order.
    2. Powers with certain capabilities, and so were aware of where he is. But now any barmale in slippers knows about it.
    3. Thanks to the loafers, unnecessary journalistic hype has turned out and now their leaders and "faces" on board will be put by the chiefs with the letter "si".
    1. kashtak
      kashtak 10 November 2016 12: 48
      0
      Quote: Moore
      now knows about it and any barmaley in slippers.
      Barmaley will find out the coordinates of the place where they were, in the event that he finds this photo. it's not about selfies, but about the inability to maintain discipline, duty accusations of sunrise with the subsequent punishment of the innocent and rewarding the innocent is not yet fulfilling official duties. at such a time we live with you. the main weapon of the newspaper gov ...... broom. wars are on the morning news. the hype was there and unfortunately will be. you can't get away from this. as well as from preventive probing. it is important that elementary adequacy is observed. By the way, where, apart from the words "journalist", is it known that these are the coordinates of "Peter the Great"? you never know where they are made.
  9. Alexdark
    Alexdark 10 November 2016 07: 18
    +3
    You cut down geolocation and selfie until you turn blue fellow
    P, C. Where is the Internet from?
    1. sergeyzzz
      sergeyzzz 10 November 2016 07: 41
      +4
      Are you sure? The nearest towers will give approximate coordinates of the user, you only need access to the service information of the company that provides communication services.
    2. ramzes1776
      ramzes1776 10 November 2016 07: 54
      +4
      Quote: AlexDARK
      You cut down geolocation and selfie until you turn blue fellow
      P, C. Where is the Internet from?

      And if you have a Google drive connected to automatically upload photos in the presence of the Internet. In general, smartphones should be prohibited in the service, and the usual buttons for communication should be issued.
      1. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 10 November 2016 08: 00
        +1
        Taschemt they seem to be forbidden and, at least in the land, are kept under lock and key and are issued for dismissal or at the request of an employee.
        But the need for inventions is cunning, and if the forbidden fruit is already waiting ....
  10. spech
    spech 10 November 2016 07: 19
    +1
    Quote: Thought
    it’s as if this smoke is not visible from any coast of the Mediterranean Sea. However, if the sailor had had our telephone, it would not have been so easy to detect it. laughing

    And what about atomic can the cruiser smoke?
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 10 November 2016 07: 40
      +2
      Quote: spech
      And what can a nuclear cruiser smoke?


      Galley or "hats" for the crew.
  11. Ru_N
    Ru_N 10 November 2016 07: 22
    +1
    There, near the water, the submarine of the Netherlands grazes. It is unlikely that this photo discovered America.
    1. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 10 November 2016 08: 00
      0
      Maybe from that grazes that knows where?
  12. Tusv
    Tusv 10 November 2016 07: 22
    0
    Oh no no no. They should drag service off the coast of Syria, and they have fun there near Crete. And Hans Frey is a duo. In the background, the sea-goers bathe, but according to Kamov and Yuut, triangulation does not work.
  13. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 10 November 2016 07: 27
    +2
    And there is no need for spies - their fools will give the necessary information! I hope that he will be fired at least !!!
    1. MarioG
      MarioG 10 November 2016 08: 06
      +3
      Why dismiss it? All your boats at the time of leaving the port are tracked along the entire route, I also have an open secret.
      1. alexej123
        alexej123 10 November 2016 08: 26
        +3
        "Ships" are God's chosen ones, we have a nuclear cruiser. Feel the difference. When will you have one? Has America provided aid yet?
      2. Serg koma
        Serg koma 10 November 2016 08: 51
        +1
        Quote: MarioG
        Why dismiss it? All your boats at the time of leaving the port are tracked along the entire route, I also have an open secret.

        "Order must be order" (C) If your child violates the order established by you - do you feed him (that is, encourage) or punish him with sweets? If you do not understand what it is, I will try to chew - your child (at the age of 7-10 years) went somewhere by itself, spitting on you and your "instructions" in an unknown direction, for an unknown time, in an unknown place ... When your child returns (or will be found), will you hand him gratitude along with flowers? And if this offense is committed by adult stupid people who, moreover, have been handed a lethal weapon, on whose actions people's lives depend - what, just ah-yayayay say, are you doing everything right?
      3. insular
        insular 10 November 2016 09: 20
        +2
        Quote: MarioG
        I also have an open secret.

        For example, the son of Tabaki, Zumwalt of your masters - a good ship? Big? Can you see him well?
        What the hell is he stealth?
  14. Per se.
    Per se. 10 November 2016 07: 28
    +3
    How can you determine the location of a cruiser on the high seas, with one helicopter in the sky in the background, by "selfies", a question ... Another thing is that the switched on mobile phone can be tracked without the Internet, and "Peter the Great" itself is not a nuclear location is hardly a secret for our "friends", as well as the composition of his weapons and photos of the deck from all angles. Of course, the topic of computer security should be very strict, by and large, in many places in the armed forces mobile phones should be banned altogether, and with the innovation of electronic cards for the army, not everything looks smooth.
  15. Gavril
    Gavril 10 November 2016 07: 33
    0
    Yes, damn the current on only the headers, you can roughly indicate the location of the group))))
  16. guzik007
    guzik007 10 November 2016 07: 34
    +2
    The news is about nothing, but the sailor is sorry ...
    1. Serg koma
      Serg koma 10 November 2016 08: 56
      +2
      Quote: guzik007
      The news is about nothing, but the sailor is sorry ...

      Maybe they’ll learn to turn on their heads so that in the future they wouldn’t really feel sorry for them ...
  17. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 10 November 2016 07: 46
    +6
    I love komenty, away we go - #Only children, #Ongeny-guilty ... etc.

    I hope you know the saying that the instructions are written in blood, and in particular the Combat Charter. (If anyone is interested, then even soldier’s correspondence was hunted very eagerly and not casual.)
    Yes, we can say that chichas is not a war, but about the submarine everyone was on fire, they say, "approached 20 km, so the war would have sunk the whole warrant," and then "Yes, not in war." I just want to say - "Yankee doublestandard detected!"

    By location.
    Yes, everybody is bombing chicas about satellites and all that ... To do this, I recommend thinking about the surface area of ​​the earth and the area of ​​ocean space - look for fistulas such a needle in all this blue space and guess whether it is a stain of fuel oil, or a tanker, or a sperm whale , or a warship.
    Yes, there is such a thing as geolocation in the mobile and I, paranoid, that I weakly believe that it does not turn off mechanically, but (!) Now let's think about something else. In the distant 15th century, sailors no longer sailed along the coast. Finished lunatics swam in the oceans. And how did they find out their relative position! I think it is quite possible to find out now using photography. (conducted a personal educational program. In theory, you can use the principle of working with a sextant for this)

    Oh yes, I think I remember that mobile phones with cameras and Internet access are prohibited in the army. But the soldier does not sleep and wants ... And if he wants ....
  18. Million
    Million 10 November 2016 07: 50
    +8
    More relevant than ever
    1. alexej123
      alexej123 10 November 2016 08: 28
      +1
      Be on the alert, walls are eavesdropping on such days. Close to chatter and gossip before treason.
  19. sa-ag
    sa-ag 10 November 2016 07: 50
    0
    Crete's cell hooked on the network? :-)
  20. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 10 November 2016 07: 51
    +3
    Eh, the guy was out of luck! Not only did he substitute himself "in full", but also the whole team was deprived of communication for ALL the time of the campaign. Well, okay, the Brain itself has atrophied, but where is the instinct for self-preservation?
  21. dsm100
    dsm100 10 November 2016 07: 53
    +3
    Maybe not everyone will support me, but I think that selfies and other rubbish can be uploaded to the Internet right away .... Sick people. But pofotkalis on the phone well, and rejoice, show your relatives friends on your return from the campaign.
  22. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 10 November 2016 07: 54
    0
    Pure nonsense. Where does mobile communication come from in the clear sea?
    1. bamsik
      bamsik 10 November 2016 08: 54
      +2
      The Dutch submarine provided
    2. 97110
      97110 10 November 2016 09: 02
      +1
      Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
      Where does mobile communication come from in the clear sea?

      Wired then ...
  23. Partizan
    Partizan 10 November 2016 07: 56
    0
    Quote: ramzes1776
    This is simply shown as an example, but how many of these comrades our "non-brothers" have calculated from which parts they are from the photo "Vkontakte" in the Donbas and in Syria. On the lip should be planted on the first with a preventive conversation, and if it does not come, then judge as a traitor.

    "Lip" in the army was canceled long ago
    1. Moore
      Moore 10 November 2016 08: 05
      +1
      Quote: Partizan

      "Lip" in the army was canceled long ago

      You are mistaken. Long ago returned.
      https://ria.ru/spravka/20130325/928919840.html
      Just put the braid there - the seven pots will come down ...
  24. Vadim12
    Vadim12 10 November 2016 07: 57
    0
    Petya is not standing in one place. While they determined the place, he had already gone far.
  25. Karayakupovo
    Karayakupovo 10 November 2016 07: 58
    0
    While he was uploading this photo on an Internet ship, this place had already passed a long time ago. And so who needs it, it can easily be found via satellite and on the operation of the RTS. Back in the 80s, we determined special equipment at large distances from the signals emitted by the equipment of each ship.
  26. Yarik
    Yarik 10 November 2016 08: 02
    +2
    Frank nonsense for idiots. You might think that the stripes did not know where each of our ships is taken individually, without this phone! Another question is whether this person could use a mobile at this moment.
  27. cariperpaint
    cariperpaint 10 November 2016 08: 02
    0
    he determined))) the geolocation thing is certainly good, but since Millen has already made sure that through contact as in this case she lies godlessly))) and I strongly doubt that finding Peter is a big secret to someone) he took a selfie photo and where the Internet was a photo laid out in contact) damn spies))))
  28. Orionvit
    Orionvit 10 November 2016 08: 05
    0
    Quote: Lukich
    and where in the photo at least one link to a specific place

    If you still do not know, then information about the time and place of shooting is automatically inserted into the photo file with modern devices. The article makes clear about geolocation data. Read the instructions for modern cameras.
    1. Executer
      Executer 10 November 2016 10: 02
      0
      I read all the comments and finally saw the message in essence. It seems that no one has heard about EXIF. And about the option "disable geolocation" ...
  29. raid14
    raid14 10 November 2016 08: 06
    +1
    So WRC work was found, to identify, warn and suppress.
    View photos of military personnel on social networks for disclosure and draw conclusions. Preventive conversation or non-compliance with contract terms, loss of confidence or disclosure.
  30. anfil
    anfil 10 November 2016 08: 10
    0
    And selfies from 3,14ndskoy satellites how to consider, too, the disclosure of military secrets?
  31. Orionvit
    Orionvit 10 November 2016 08: 10
    0
    Quote: Thought
    as if this smoke is not visible from any coast of the Mediterranean Sea

    As far as I know, "Peter the Great" is a nuclear-powered cruiser. But on the other hand, the "vessel" is large, and one might think that with modern satellite radar and other technologies at the enemy, he can be safely hidden in a puddle like the Mediterranean Sea.
  32. BOB044
    BOB044 10 November 2016 08: 17
    +4
    Write off ashore in pigs let there with heels and manure selfie doing. According to his mental development, this is just the time ..
  33. Evil 55
    Evil 55 10 November 2016 08: 19
    +2
    Complete nonsense ... a 7,5-hectare cruiser amid this puddle, called the Mediterranean Sea, will not be able to find only a blind woodpecker who does not know how to use electronic intelligence equipment .. Of course, the little boy didn’t take this selfie without thinking, substituting the command and the whole crew, but to punish for stupidity in Russia for 70 years, as is not customary ..
  34. Military Builder
    Military Builder 10 November 2016 08: 22
    0
    Quote: Grandfather Luka
    but there are some very recent cases when, due to the availability of personal mobile means of communication with the military, a convoy on the march fell under the volley of multiple rocket launchers, the result being dozens of corpses of our soldiers, loss of equipment, and the failure of operas. planning.


    a similar situevina happened during the events of 08.08.08 when a mine flew in response to the call of a journalist, resulting in several corpses of journalists and soldiers and officers of the Republic of Armenia
  35. Orionvit
    Orionvit 10 November 2016 08: 23
    0
    Quote: ShadowCat
    To do this, I recommend that you think about the surface area of ​​the earth and the area of ​​ocean space - look for fistulas such a needle in all this blue space and guess whether it is a stain of fuel oil, or a tanker, or a sperm whale, or a warship.

    All that you said is relevant for a person with binoculars in orbit. Satellites operate in automatic mode to monitor the entire surface of the globe, data are processed by supercomputers, and they can distinguish sperm whales from fuel oil spots in two seconds. Moreover, to make a mistake in identifying such a colossus as an atomic cruiser is problematic.
  36. uskrabut
    uskrabut 10 November 2016 08: 25
    +2
    In general, it was forbidden to have cameras, tape recorders, and radio receivers in all the military units of the USSR (there was no mobile then, otherwise it was also prohibited). Why all of a sudden in the Russian army and navy such indulgences?
  37. Vit70
    Vit70 10 November 2016 08: 26
    +1
    The informers from "The Washington Free Bacon" are laying the nasty Russian sailors. Where is the world heading?
  38. Military Builder
    Military Builder 10 November 2016 08: 26
    +1
    Quote: Partizan
    "Lip" in the army was canceled long ago

    sorry, back in 1993 I served 7 days, a useful thing about thinking about the "meaning of life"
  39. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 10 November 2016 08: 30
    +1
    there is nothing secret in the photo, the subscriber’s location is absolutely certain, since he uses mobile communications, the question is how much he violated or did not violate job descriptions, well, and yet, he has a brain or just a monkey reflex
  40. Wedmak
    Wedmak 10 November 2016 08: 30
    +2
    Uploading selfies from a warship on a cruise, obviously unaccounted for by a photo device, is certainly not good. The sailor got hit. But the journalist is not a very smart person, you might think an atomic cruiser of this size in a Mediterranean puddle could get lost. And there is also Kuzya and a couple of BODs ... and they are constantly being conducted by "friends" from NATO. He only made a fuss, but s-opiarized gloriously.
    And by the way, why did he get that this is a photo from Peter? And not with Kuzi for example?
  41. Dyagilev
    Dyagilev 10 November 2016 08: 31
    +2
    The guys sailed to the war. And now the Duckfacees are sending around the world.
  42. Gray-haired
    Gray-haired 10 November 2016 08: 31
    +3
    Device in gopy to shield the signal for this, judging by the mordell, alternatively gifted, to the commanders over the ears with a mop. And once again read out 100500 times the order to enter the Combat Campaign. So that from the farting of a neighbor in the cockpit, the text of the order jumped up and screamed. Tea did not go on a cruise Kuzya celebrate. And in the hold, until the end of the contract or service life. am
  43. slivatore
    slivatore 10 November 2016 08: 41
    0
    Yeah, such a selfie is to blame for everything))) Otherwise, well, in 2016 you can’t see the 80 on 300 platform from the top!
  44. duchy
    duchy 10 November 2016 08: 43
    0
    Judging by the photo, "a journalist named Hans de Frey" is definitely cooler than Count Coliostro, laughing By one type of sea space and sky, he determined the "secret coordinates" of the aircraft carrier. good
    Into intelligence. bully
  45. Yugra
    Yugra 10 November 2016 08: 43
    +1
    Can you throw this sailor squadron overboard? The command will be played out, allowing smartphones and other gadgets ...
  46. Dr. Sorge
    Dr. Sorge 10 November 2016 08: 46
    +2
    Citizens! And to process and remove geodata from the image metafile before you upload photos to the open network weakly ???
    Or just turn off the function of assigning coordinates in the phone.
    If the Internet works there, then the coordinates are calculated via satellites.
  47. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 10 November 2016 08: 47
    0
    I already thought that on our ships WiFi appeared
  48. samuil60
    samuil60 10 November 2016 08: 50
    +2
    And why didn’t (temporarily, naturally) personal phones be taken from the personnel in the military campaign? This is just gouging, including from the side of the cruiser commander! Mess...
  49. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 10 November 2016 08: 53
    +2
    There should be harsh punishments for all the s / s using mobile phones .... impossible, then impossible, otherwise you can’t just go for any photos on the Internet, especially in social networks
  50. situational
    situational 10 November 2016 08: 54
    +1
    We are talking about the standard requirements for military discipline. Even during the Second World War, the rules of radio silence were respected, and the letters did not indicate the exact location of the units. Sailor sent a photo via the Internet or mail, today or in a year - it doesn't matter. It is important that the accompanying information indicates the coordinates of its location and distinguishes the military object itself. Many in the Sovi depot times brought from the service "selfies" against the background of secret objects, but it was difficult to link to the place and time. Therefore, we are talking about the usual carelessness. If brains or counterintelligence instructors worked, I would turn off geolocation.