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Miracles of the American electoral system. Clinton is ahead and loses ...

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More accurate results come from the elections in the United States. The United States Election Commission reports that Donald Trump is becoming the 45 president of the United States, for whom the electors in the college will formally vote. It was by electoral votes in large states that the Republican candidate won. With the required minimum in 270 votes, Trump enlisted the support of 289 electors, and Clinton 218.


Miracles of the American electoral system. Clinton is ahead and loses ...


At the same time, according to RIA News With reference to American sources, Trump lost to his rival by the number of voters. About 130 voted thousands of US citizens for him less than the Democratic candidate.

These are quirks of the American electoral system, when a candidate can be elected president for which fewer voters have voted than his main rival.

В stories US presidential election is not the first such case. The previous version of the same happened in 2000, when George W. Bush (Jr.) won over Al Gore as a result of a minimum margin of electoral votes. Then the electoral votes from the state of Florida were counted several times, and as a result, it was Bush’s victory that was declared (with a creak).

For reference: the largest number of votes Donald Trump received in Wyoming - about 70%. Clinton achieved the greatest support in the capital of the country - about 93% of votes. This is the result of Clinton, which in the case of elections in other countries, the United States has always been in a hurry to announce fraud and non-democratic instruments. Now the members of the US Democratic Party have the time to look at themselves in the mirror and scratch their heads after a general defeat against the background of Washington's local success ...
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  1. MarioG
    MarioG 9 November 2016 17: 42
    +30
    Miracles are when it is known in advance who the president is, especially after castling (and before that wassat ), these are miracles ....
    1. BARKAS
      BARKAS 9 November 2016 17: 50
      +27
      Quote: MarioG
      Miracles are when it is known in advance who the president is

      These are not miracles, but a misfortune when there are only degenerates in opposition, but with Trump it is still miracles or, most likely, a plot for "illusion of deception 3"
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 9 November 2016 17: 52
        +14
        Miracles of the American electoral system. Clinton is ahead and loses ...

        As Yeltsin would say (not by nightfall he will be remembered): here is such an American "squiggle"! laughing
        1. Temples
          Temples 9 November 2016 17: 59
          +31
          it's all crap that Clinton Shah got more votes. Although spit by and large.
          She handled it fluidly.
          Thank God that this Russophobia broke off.
          1. Persistent
            Persistent 9 November 2016 18: 39
            +45
            Thank God that this Russophobia broke off. [B] [/ b]


            laughing
            1. Comrade Schucher
              Comrade Schucher 9 November 2016 22: 42
              +5
              Quote: Persistent
              Thank God that this Russophobia broke off

              Exactly, Trump won this race on his grandmothers.
              He owes nothing to anyone, he will steer like a king.
              1. Nat1961
                Nat1961 10 November 2016 06: 25
                +3
                Quote: Comrade SCHUKHER
                schA will steer like a king.

                In addition to Trump, there are influential elites in the United States, and they simply will not let him rule like a king! The sad experience of the Kennedy brothers is proof of this.
          2. bouncyhunter
            bouncyhunter 9 November 2016 18: 47
            +14
            To paraphrase the classics: "I brought the terrible news to your house, Hilary. Call the shitcrats." lol
            In general, I expect from Baboon and Kerry (and from the publicized Clinton woman) screaming and screaming with little legs on the topic: “Hackers, breaking the secret documents of the Kremlin, found out that Putin conferred an extraordinary military rank on Donald Ivanovich Trump and awarded the Friendship of Peoples Order to Donald Ivanovich Trump. " Well, or something similar. laughing
            1. Vlad.by
              Vlad.by 10 November 2016 02: 37
              0
              Well, in the end, from end to end, it’s not only the minke whales who hunchbacked “presidents” to recruit. As it backfired, so, you look, and will respond.
            2. alex-cn
              alex-cn 10 November 2016 04: 30
              +2
              Well then Danila Ivanovich will be more accurate, and the decree is secret. There is nothing to shine on my own ... But actually, I would wait to be happy, Trump is a very dark horse.
          3. Lukich
            Lukich 9 November 2016 19: 00
            +8
            Quote: Temples
            it's all crap that Clinton Shah got more votes. Although spit by and large.
            She handled it fluidly.
            Thank God that this Russophobia broke off.

            By the results of the US presidential election, a new reading of the famous song performed by Mikhail Boyarsky "The Trainer" is offered by the columnist of "PRB" Alexander Mikheichev:
            He taught himself the whole world gradually,
            I hated the continent laughing at him.
            Well meet now in the global arena
            Forty-fifth, US president.

            Trump! And Clinton sat at his feet.
            Trump! And in a voice she voices:
            Trump! America, you are stupefied.
            Trump! And in a hurry to her husband,
            And in a hurry to her husband.

            And with a whip he will go into the world with an affectionate word,
            Realizing American Dream.
            And the people will get used, the people are trained,
            Still, he will be dearly loved by many.

            Trump! Europe has opened its arms.
            Trump! Ukraina is weeping in the corner.
            Trump! We will soon forget all that was.
            Trump! And together we sing praise
            We sing praise.

            Something moved nevertheless on white in the world
            Brexit, trump, soon Merkel slid into the scrap
            Is it really him, change fresh wind
            And the cherished wick smolders under the dollar.

            Trump! And Putin is coming out of the shadows.
            Trump! And he speaks softly to him.
            Trump! So that there is no doubt at all
            Trump! Russia, you remember, will always win
            Always win. Always win!
          4. Conductor
            Conductor 9 November 2016 19: 03
            +9
            The wonders of the American electoral system

            Yeah, the first one has already spoken (Nicolas Maduro). The President of Venezuela called the American electoral system "medieval." The opinion of the leader of a country that is not able to afford even toilet paper obviously means something. In the photo, people living with the most advanced electoral system stand in line for a scarce luxury item.

            1. marl
              marl 9 November 2016 20: 03
              +11
              Quote: Explorer
              Yeah, the first one has already spoken (Nicolas Maduro). The President of Venezuela called the American electoral system "medieval."

              And what he did not say so, it is medieval. Their two-stage electoral system has existed since the advent of the state called the USA in 1789. Since then, nothing has changed in her.
              As for toilet paper ... it’s because Americans don’t obey, Cuba is sympathetic and not only ...
              1. Conductor
                Conductor 9 November 2016 20: 22
                0
                As for toilet paper ... it’s because Americans don’t obey, Cuba is sympathetic and not only ...

                So this is because the profession of the head of state is the bus driver
                1. marl
                  marl 9 November 2016 20: 34
                  +10
                  Quote: Explorer
                  So this is because the profession of the head of state is the bus driver

                  So what, he did not become president from this position. Lech Walesa, by the way, was an electrician. There are lots of such examples, no one is born president. These are not Saudi monarchs who are carried forward with their feet forward.
                  If you look at the Western establishment with no intent eyes, it very often gives the impression that there are only cooks and carriage drivers running the states.
                  1. Sergej1972
                    Sergej1972 9 November 2016 20: 53
                    0
                    With the Saudi monarchs, everything is complicated. Sometimes they are killed, sometimes suspended for reasons of mental disorder.
                2. Dart
                  Dart 10 November 2016 02: 01
                  +4
                  Well, you have a collective farm chairman, and nothing, do not buzz ...))
            2. svd-xnumx
              svd-xnumx 9 November 2016 21: 10
              +1
              The photo says nothing: it can be handed out for free or ten rolls for the price of one.
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 9 November 2016 21: 51
                +10
                Friends, remember how Obama was chosen, on what slogans. Guantanamo, the cessation of aggressive politics and the Nobel Peace Prize. Now Trump is also talking about detente, that he does not want to pull the financial strap of NATO, concern for veterans, the establishment of relations with the Russian Federation and GDP.
                That is, we should be glad that the American people do not want military "tension" and Cold War -2. That he was tired of this militarism and the shaking of the sword around the world. The Americans were fed up with all this. Let's hope that Trump will go to the "world".
                But Europe was "shaken up" by one fact of Donald's arrival. laughing ... And here (in the EU) interesting events await. Let's see who Trump will make the first "contact" with. With GDP or EU? It is clear that all the Hollande are now looking for a way to be the first to get to Trump Tower. But what will the Tower itself do?
                I must say, I fear Donald - he is a smart man. With Clinton, everything was clear, she was predictable. But where will the Tower turn? The riddle. hi
                1. Vlad.by
                  Vlad.by 10 November 2016 02: 42
                  0
                  The tower is facing east. And eats tangerines.
          5. DMB_95
            DMB_95 10 November 2016 13: 56
            0
            Quote: Temples
            it's all crap that ClintonSha gained more votes ....
            Thank God that this Russophobia broke off.

            "I even felt sorry for her .." I would say if I was very drunk. And I would not say about her.
        2. Monos
          Monos 9 November 2016 18: 01
          +18
          laughing A friend of Ukrainians and a patented goat McFaul called Ukraine "The main loser of the day":



          Translation:

          The main world loser of this evening is Ukraine. Your only hope is the need to really take reforms seriously and maintain European support
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          2. Rostov Papa
            Rostov Papa 9 November 2016 18: 13
            +16
            Friend of Ukrainians and patented goat McFaul called Ukraine "Top loser of the day

            Shocked losers laughing
            1. behemot
              behemot 9 November 2016 18: 36
              +5
              hohlushechka habitually opened her mouth. Freebie over? It will be necessary to work out Amerov’s denyuzhki in full.
            2. GSH-18
              GSH-18 9 November 2016 19: 25
              +2
              Quote: Rostov Dad
              Friend of Ukrainians and patented goat McFaul called Ukraine "Top loser of the day

              Shocked losers laughing

              But these losers are not used to getting cancer already. Not the first and far from the last time.
          3. HERMES
            HERMES 9 November 2016 18: 14
            +18
            How would Trump become the third ...
            1. Mahmut
              Mahmut 9 November 2016 18: 20
              +3
              The third was already.
              1. HERMES
                HERMES 9 November 2016 18: 27
                0
                And who? I forgot someone?)
                1. hohkn
                  hohkn 9 November 2016 19: 27
                  +12
                  Quote: Mahmut
                  The third was already.

                  Quote: HERMES
                  And who? I forgot someone?)

                  1. Abraham Lincoln, killed in 1865 by an agent of the planters.
                  2. James Abram Garfield, during the Civil War, one of the commanders of the North Army. In 1881, he was mortally wounded during an attempt. The term of the presidency: 1881.
                  3. William McKinley, assassinated in 1901 by an anarchist.
                  4. John Fitzgerald Kennedy. Killed in 1963 in Dallas, Texas.
            2. rotor
              rotor 9 November 2016 19: 03
              +9
              Fifth, four (Abraham Lincoln in 1865, James Garfield in 1881, William McKinley in 1901 and John F. Kennedy in 1963) were killed.
              1. K-50
                K-50 9 November 2016 19: 27
                +11
                Quote: rotor
                Fifth, four (Abraham Lincoln in 1865, James Garfield in 1881, William McKinley in 1901 and John F. Kennedy in 1963) were killed.

                Yes, they have a whole "heavenly hundred" there! belay
                1. Oznob
                  Oznob 10 November 2016 09: 48
                  0
                  "Heavenly Hundred" is when you drink 100 g of vodka on an airplane in the sky, yes ...
              2. HERMES
                HERMES 9 November 2016 19: 35
                +1
                Quote: rotor
                Fifth, four (Abraham Lincoln in 1865, James Garfield in 1881, William McKinley in 1901 and John F. Kennedy in 1963) were killed.

                I didn’t even hear about Garfield ... about McKinley — he only knew that a mountain was named after him in Alaska.
                Well then, let's say this: the third most high-profile murder ... and when it is committed - it will undoubtedly become one.
                1. abrakadabre
                  abrakadabre 10 November 2016 10: 08
                  +1
                  Even Reagan was almost lucky to get on that list. But it didn’t. The performer was krivoruky, and medicine on top.
              3. Belopolyak
                Belopolyak 9 November 2016 20: 53
                0
                Quote: rotor
                Fifth, four (Abraham Lincoln in 1865, James Garfield in 1881, William McKinley in 1901 and John F. Kennedy in 1963) were killed.

                Like Garfield's autopsy in our time, they still consider the ends peacefully toppled.
                P.S. it was believed that he was poisoned, but the autopsy did not find anything.
                1. Sergej1972
                  Sergej1972 10 November 2016 18: 25
                  0
                  You are confused with the Harding, chosen after Woodrow Wilson.
                  As for Garfield, he was injured. He had a chance to survive, but the doctors blundered, brought the infection into the wound ..
            3. K-50
              K-50 9 November 2016 19: 27
              +2
              Quote: HERMES
              How would Trump become the third ...

              What's the point? Instead, there will be a vice president. I hope he has more intelligence than the senile old woman and he will restrain from confrontation with Russia. It is always better to trade than to fight. The money will be whole. And the country will still live.
      2. The black
        The black 9 November 2016 18: 12
        +2
        This has already happened in American election history. And it will be under the current electoral system
      3. Lukich
        Lukich 9 November 2016 18: 45
        +16
        Quote: BARKAS
        This is not miracles, but a disaster when there are only degenerates in the opposition, but with Trump, miracles are nevertheless

        Well, as it so
      4. GSH-18
        GSH-18 9 November 2016 20: 43
        +1
        All this is nonsense. Now we will watch the long-awaited tragicomedy called: Ukraine-staging cancer in action! laughing
    2. OLD FART
      OLD FART 9 November 2016 17: 51
      +11
      It doesn’t matter what the extras do with the numbers ....
      A brilliant victory in the information struggle Vladimir Vladimirovich! This will go down in history ... bully

      But there is still a lot of work ahead and it’s impossible to relax early ....
      1. Giant thought
        Giant thought 9 November 2016 18: 06
        +2
        Here you have a review of the elective system of exceptional, almost medieval, not otherwise.
    3. alexej123
      alexej123 9 November 2016 18: 05
      +17
      I am surprised that the news is for the United States, and the "tovarischi" from Israel, too, cannot resist here, so as not to spit in the direction of Russia. Are you sick with anuresis anti-Russian? Look at your masters. And who you feel, you are waiting for handouts in order to ensure your defenses. These are MIRACLES.
    4. Corsair
      Corsair 9 November 2016 18: 17
      +1
      Quote: MarioG
      Miracles are when it is known in advance who the president is especially after castling (and even before it was wassat), these are miracles ....

      This is not miracles, this is stability)))
      Miracles are when everything is on the same level, and when there are 3-4 candidates who are only heard in their village / city / district and this one suddenly wins - this is a real miracle.
    5. Volodin
      Volodin 9 November 2016 18: 22
      +46
      Miracles are when it is known in advance who the president is especially after castling (and even before it was wassat), these are miracles ....


      Miracles are when I was born in the USSR, you sit in Israel and on the Russian website you discuss the American elections, believing that you hooked on Russia with your wit ...
      1. alexej123
        alexej123 9 November 2016 19: 25
        +5
        To the point of Alexey. How you didn’t work out for me. I hardly wrote with matyugs.
    6. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 9 November 2016 18: 27
      +6
      what I want to say ... I'm glad that Trump won for two reasons, the first is Hilaya - (Щ) the decree is rare .. and the second is Donald-belenky ... enough
      with us descendants of slaves who have learned to speak ...
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 9 November 2016 21: 04
        +6
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        that's enough
        with us descendants of slaves who have learned to speak ...

        It is what it is. During the entire presidency, this organism of unknown origin has never shown even a hint of any independence, responsibility and political maturity. Repeatedly I saw his bewildered guilty look, as if not the president of a world power, but a C grade who did not do his homework. Which, in principle, is understandable - apparently, the guy initially had a message - "to feed the dogs and not touch anything." And so - for eight years.
    7. 210ox
      210ox 9 November 2016 18: 54
      +4
      These are not miracles, but a regularity, for there is no one else to entrust the country ... Freaks from Kasparov or Kasyanov to candidates from the "room parties" of the Socialist-Revolutionaries or Zhirinovites, and the Communists, one name.
    8. GSH-18
      GSH-18 9 November 2016 19: 23
      +3
      Well, in this whole situation, I am very pleased that today all Russophobes of the world are in a severe panic, and only this is why I have a great mood today good
    9. Sterlya
      Sterlya 9 November 2016 19: 38
      +4
      Thank God! We will not at least constantly see through the box a nasty smile of this sick Russophobia.
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 9 November 2016 21: 16
        +2
        I do not expect something too "breakthrough" from Trump, now he will be under pressure from all sides. From the EU to Amer. corporations and hawks. It is interesting how Western politicians (including senators and congressmen), who poured dirt on Donald, will behave.
        But how nice it is to see "ro.zhi" Western leaders, and Poroshenko !? If Trump fulfills at least part of his foreign policy promises, it's already good. "I'll dry this Washington Swamp!" Let him deal with internal problems - it's already good. No matter how he turns into an American Gorbachev - although it would probably be in our favor. Trump gave his keynote speech recently, in New Hampshire, I think. There he said something like that ... Perestroika, not otherwise. The reduction of the state apparatus, the return of business to home, the PRC to "bend", NATO, etc. Now let's see how he is responsible for his words. hi
        I understand that Clinton and Obama have already agreed to defeat.
        Zhirinovsky drinks champagne at all talk shows. And the American Simes (he heads some analytical center - something like that) claims that he was preparing Trump's first foreign political speech - a smart man who understands Russia. Let's hope that Trump will take him as an "adviser" on the Russian Federation.
        1. Sterlya
          Sterlya 19 November 2016 14: 50
          0
          Quote: Kasym
          Perestroika, not otherwise. The reduction of the state apparatus, the return of business to home, the PRC to "bend", NATO, etc. Now let's see how he is responsible for his words. hi

          Clitoris will not be worse. And that’s enough.
    10. Arameev
      Arameev 9 November 2016 22: 31
      +12
      Quote: MarioG
      Miracles are when it is known in advance who the president is, especially after castling ..

      For all the seeming, as you put it, "miraculous", there was no real alternative to GDP in terms of popularity among the people in the last elections in the Russian Federation. there was no candidate comparable in authority. on this, in my opinion, on the contrary, there were no miracles. as for the American elections, it was not Clinton who won the glory of God. if only because her rival (unlike herself) has no supporters of "Muslim brothers" or Arabs in general in her closest advisers (at least, one has not yet heard of such). for us in Israel it seems important to me. this is the first. second, but no less important, Trump at least does not deny the possibility of a settlement with Russia. because further hysteria (and in the West the attitude towards the Russian Federation cannot be called otherwise, it is hysteria)) will not lead to anything good. Russia is absolutely not the country and not the kind of people that can be neglected or taken to fear. and Trump is a huckster (or a businessman) and not a warrior. He will at least try to come to an agreement. IMHO, therefore, I personally think he is more preferable. here ... something like that
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 9 November 2016 17: 43
    0
    "It is a quirk of the American electoral system that a candidate with fewer votes than his main competitor can be elected president."

    The ignoramus is not a quirk; it is a true, unclouded democracy. smile
  3. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 9 November 2016 17: 44
    +33
    Department “K” of the FSB of Russia supported Hillary Clinton in the election due to a reluctance to re-select passwords for the email of the new US president.
    1. vsoltan
      vsoltan 9 November 2016 18: 00
      +7
      laughing laughing hi Thanks, neighing. .. :-)
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 9 November 2016 19: 00
      +4
      Quote: Lexa-149
      Department “K” of the FSB of Russia supported Hillary Clinton in the election due to a reluctance to re-select passwords for the email of the new US president.

      You would at least quote this comment from RusVesna. And so you might think that you said that. repeat
  4. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 9 November 2016 17: 48
    +8
    Tell me please, we don’t care who the pride is there? Waiting for Trump to pursue pro-Russian policies is at least stupid — he will defend the interests of the United States, defend rigidly, and it is precisely Trump who, if necessary, can start a war against us, and strengthen the sanctions regime — he will do everything in the interests of the United States, which means that will remain as it is, or it will become even worse.
    1. vsoltan
      vsoltan 9 November 2016 17: 59
      +10
      As a pragmatic guy who knows how to count money, war is unlikely. ... set aside witch. ..TA-dah. .. the boom. ..
      1. Sagittarius
        Sagittarius 9 November 2016 18: 13
        +1
        Well done Trump, kicked the same ass Clintonsha.
    2. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 9 November 2016 18: 00
      +1
      Well, Democrats usually have a soft policy, Republicans are usually tough. They chose a Republican, which means that sanctions and confrontation will begin to increase sharply. Everything is simple.
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 9 November 2016 19: 00
      +1
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      Tell me please, we don’t care who the pride is there?

      so do not care ... but Hilaya just freezes! am
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 9 November 2016 19: 34
        +1
        So this is a struggle for the elector lol What the American president says before the election, and does after is strikingly different! winked Clerks come and go ...
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 9 November 2016 22: 31
          +1
          Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
          he will defend the interests of the usa, defend toughly

          According to the law of electoral drama, Trump was simply obliged to strongly oppose Clinton, her fellow party member Obama, and the policies pursued by them. And he succeeded perfectly well. Like "oh, you Democrats, are you cursing and infringing on Russia ?!
          But America has an alternative - that's me, Trump. "
          The stronger the ruling administration demonized Russia, the louder Trump's voice in our defense grew, the more he demonstrated his openness to us and his desire to cooperate.
          And now the elections are over, you can remove the masks and do the Republicans' current affairs.
          It was because of the elections that the party removed military assistance from Ukraine from its platform. This situation will remain for the time being. They will use their peace-loving platform to use this in negotiations with us. Agree that friendliness also implies certain concessions on our part, open up to the next administration, even small buns can be exchanged insignificantly .. And there, after all, not the soft-bodied Obama sparrows, but the real Bison of national security will sit there. And sooner or later everything will fall into place and the Russian leadership will have to give an objective assessment of aggressive American foreign policy.
          Then, people, don’t be disappointed and do not stigmatize Donald Judah. ​​He is not a traitor --- a good tactician and strong-willed person. More is not required of him, because the strategy has long been invented before him.
          1. Dart
            Dart 10 November 2016 02: 23
            +1
            It is easier to confront a well-known enemy than with a half-witted woman untwisted by the flywheel of the "hawks". The expression about an animal with a grenade was fully consistent.
  5. Altona
    Altona 9 November 2016 17: 58
    +7
    The liberal idea of ​​a financial global establishment has failed around the world, not counting us (Putin has skillfully covered the liberals) and Ukraine. They believed that anyone could be bought, intimidated, pecked, sanctioned. Not a ride. First of all, that such a boorish and dismissive policy rejects people. The liberals even rejected specialists from their midst-military, scientists, political scientists, we will not consider paid. Money bag ceases to be a symbol of success and even more so respect in society. If our bourgeois did not understand this, they will be reminded.
  6. vsoltan
    vsoltan 9 November 2016 17: 58
    +2
    The election system is imbecile. ... what can I say. .. Donald Duck was left to live until December 19 (election vote), then to January 6 (Congressional approval), then to January 20 (inauguration). ..that will then become president. ... if they are not physically knocked down and put on a pig. ..interesting that the Turks have already turned to him to give Gulen. ..so be patient. ..it is early to rejoice, however, is not inclined to think that in general it should be done. ... election promises and real politics are not only different, they seem to be incompatible repeat Buy chips "Laus" ...... absolutely inveterate patriots - seeds and ramming. ...
  7. Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 9 November 2016 17: 58
    +14

    The people are already joking at the full! laughing
    1. Damir
      Damir 9 November 2016 17: 59
      0
      CLASS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      1. parafoiler
        parafoiler 9 November 2016 18: 24
        0
        Fota irrelevant-Putin has not yet been divorced ...
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 9 November 2016 19: 16
          +2
          with cheva? take a closer look ...
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    3. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 10 November 2016 18: 28
      0
      Funny, of course, but not very smart. Disservice.
  8. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 9 November 2016 18: 02
    +3
    History repeats itself. America vowed that it would not tolerate a president with a dark complexion - they ate, did not want Trump's lobby - it was served.
  9. Stas Snezhin
    Stas Snezhin 9 November 2016 18: 07
    +10

    Awkward ..))
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 9 November 2016 19: 19
      +2
      karamba- (damn it) this is serious ... the electorate is upset ...
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 9 November 2016 20: 57
      0
      Quote: Stas Snezhin

      Awkward ..))

      What a shit? Some kind of booby painted on hand, took a picture and put it in the no. I can punch such pummels every day in unlimited quantities. fool
      1. Stas Snezhin
        Stas Snezhin 10 November 2016 05: 46
        +2
        What a shit? Some kind of booby painted on hand, took a picture and put it in the no. I such zanyapuhi can punch every day in unlimited quantities fool

        That’s good that I explained!
        A smart, serious talking head.
        And then, we naively thought here that it was printed in a typographic way ..))
      2. Petrix
        Petrix 10 November 2016 10: 35
        +2
        Quote: GSH-18
        Some kind of booby painted on hand

        Why booby? In each ballot, the voter has the right to write the name of anyone he wants to elect as president. This is official.
  10. K-50
    K-50 9 November 2016 18: 09
    +8
    Clinton managed to achieve the greatest support in the capital of the country - about 93% of the vote.

    Such a superpopularity of an old woman simply cannot be, it is clear that it is a rigging. In some states, the electronic voting buttons did not work, only the "for Clinton" button worked. How can such voices be taken into account? belay
    Complete nonsense !!!! fool
    The entire electoral system of mattresses is so confused and not protected from forgeries that I quietly goof off. What kind of election democracy can one talk about even if the voices of the dead are taken into account !!! fool
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 9 November 2016 18: 13
      +6
      Quote: K-50
      to achieve in the capital - about 93% of the vote.

      Even GDP is jealous of such a result. laughing
  11. demotivator
    demotivator 9 November 2016 18: 14
    +6
    in terms of the number of voters, Trump lost his rival.
    Well, so what? Who cares now? Miracles happen worse in our elections, and nothing, no consequences. Some 146% of what are worth, or total throws by PEC members under webcams and in front of observers. And did anyone get involved for this? Although there is a real criminal article for falsifying the voting results in the Criminal Code. So no matter how sorry someone is, that Clinton is not the president, although "Trump lost to his rival"but Trump will head the country for the next 4 years. By the way, I note that such a stunning first lady in the USA, as Trump's wife - Melania, has not yet been. By the way - Slovenia.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 9 November 2016 19: 40
      +3
      Quote: demotivator
      By the way, I note that such a stunning first lady in the USA, as Trump's wife - Melania, has not yet been. By the way - Slovenia.

      yes ... her "arguments" are what you need .. yes repeat
    2. K-50
      K-50 9 November 2016 20: 13
      +3
      Quote: demotivator
      By the way, I note that such a stunning first lady in the USA, as Trump's wife - Melania, has not yet been. By the way - Slovenia.

      I agree, a beautiful woman. Let Trump be the support and helper.
  12. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 9 November 2016 18: 17
    0
    Should we rejoice or cry that Trump will be president? Personally, my sympathy for Trump.
  13. mamont5
    mamont5 9 November 2016 18: 18
    0
    Quote: Black
    This has already happened in the African history of the election. And it will be under the current electoral system

    Exactly. Under the Amer’s system, it doesn’t matter how the voters vote - it matters what the electors say.
    1. vvv-73
      vvv-73 9 November 2016 19: 26
      0
      Well, sort of, there the electors formally vote.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 9 November 2016 19: 42
      +2
      "what the electors say is important" ////

      Electors say exactly what voters told them
      by your vote.
      In 250 years, they had only 3 cases of fraud by
      elector. This "title" is very dear.
      1. Petrix
        Petrix 10 November 2016 10: 40
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Electors say exactly what voters told them

        Only, apart from the electors, no one knows what the voters told them?
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 10 November 2016 18: 37
          0
          Electors are party representatives. If you vote for a list of electors from a democratic party, for example, then all electoral democrats will vote for a democratic candidate. In each state, they choose precisely between lists of electors, and not between individual electors. From one state, one list is selected, consisting entirely of adherents of one party. The list, which won the second place, even he won 49,9% of the vote, will not be presented. Only in two or three small states is there a slightly different system, distribution between places between lists is possible, however, with a disproportionately large representation of the list, which gained the majority. But these states do not weather.
  14. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 9 November 2016 18: 21
    +1
    Here are cranks, exceptional, yes. And this so-called democracy is trying to imagine himself with a light? At the junkyard of history, they have a place, and no trumps will help together with trampophiles changing shoes on the fly, as Soloviev said in the morning.
  15. Altona
    Altona 9 November 2016 18: 24
    +3
    Quote: Stas Snezhin
    Awkward ..))

    --------------------
    There is a column in the election form where you can enter any last name if those proposed officially do not suit you. A man exercised this right. GDP is quite popular in the US, despite official rhetoric.
  16. unsinkable
    unsinkable 9 November 2016 18: 24
    +4
    Quote: Beautiful lie
    the population is bombed.

    Quote: Beautiful lie
    they took the peninsula from a poor neighbor and that’s all - a superpower.

    Here you are the zombies. Understand the historical facts about the Crimea’s identity and don’t sing out of the voice of the Svidomo sea diggers. Lived under the dictation of Uncle Trump. Now you will live under the dictation of Uncle Trump. You probably know how your Svidomo leaders were shamed from scolding the new owner. Understand life, noodles.
  17. satelit24
    satelit24 9 November 2016 18: 25
    +2
    At Kennedy, too, it all started beautifully am
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  19. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 9 November 2016 18: 26
    +5
    Quote: Monos
    laughing A friend of Ukrainians and a patented goat McFaul called Ukraine "The main loser of the day":




    The main world loser of this evening is Ukraine. Your only hope is the need to really take reforms seriously and maintain European support

    [Quote] [/ quote]
    I don’t know who is the loser, but ... the insider information came in - PARASHA kicked out Mishiko and vacated the governor's seat in Odessa for the "Bumblebee" ...
  20. win
    win 9 November 2016 18: 29
    +2
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Miracles of the American electoral system. Clinton is ahead and loses ...

    As Yeltsin would say (not by nightfall he will be remembered): here is such an American "squiggle"! laughing

    Although an old joke, but in the subject:
    After the election, the head of his staff comes to Yeltsin.
    - Two news: bad and good.
    “Let's get the bad news first.”
    - Zyuganov scored 70% of the vote.
    - Ah! Oh! What good one?
    - And you scored 90%! ..
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    1. novobranets
      novobranets 9 November 2016 19: 04
      +5
      laughing laughing laughing
      1. Add Mr. Trump to the base of the site "Peacemaker" with all the ensuing consequences.
      Gerashchenko, what can I say ... fool , he is Gerashchenko. Now he just had to pray that Trump would not tell anyone about it, otherwise the consequences would flow from that very fatty.
      Ukrainian politicians, counting on the victory of Hillary Clinton in the US presidential election, began to massively remove negative posts about Donald Trump, who won the most votes.
      So, according to the Ukrainian media, the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov erased his record of July 31, in which he called the Republican “a dangerous and shameless marginal” after he spoke out for recognizing Crimea as part of Russia.

      Avakov’s example was followed by former Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk, who accused Trump of “a crime against ethical and civilizational principles.” In his post, a Ukrainian politician advised the American to "gain intelligence from older comrades." This morning this record was no longer there.

      The abusive post to Trump was also removed by the permanent representative of Ukraine to the UN, Yuriy Sergeyev, who called the republican candidate a "clown who flew off the coils." According to RIA, Oleg Lyashko, leader of the Radical Party of Ukraine, also disowned his words. He erased his message in which he called "disaster" the victory of Donald Trump in the presidential election.
    2. the villain
      the villain 9 November 2016 19: 06
      +4
      That’s all, Kranta America, right now. Ukraine kaaak does not recognize the state elections as legitimate, but kaaak will appoint the states to retake the democracy test ... Damn, I don’t even know whether to cry or to laugh.
    3. alexej123
      alexej123 9 November 2016 19: 29
      +1
      Andrew, if the screen is not a fake, then this is ..... Svidomo of the Brain. Lord, what kind of sheep are brothers.
    4. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 9 November 2016 19: 36
      +5
      Gerashchenko is growing, he learned the words "categorically" and "hypothetically".
  22. Scalpel
    Scalpel 9 November 2016 18: 31
    +1
    Such a system has developed historically to take into account the interests of all states, and not just the most populated.
  23. rotor
    rotor 9 November 2016 18: 41
    +1
    The wonders of the American electoral system.


    In California, there is one elector for 615848 thousand voters, and in desert Wyoming one elector represents 164594 people. Thus, the redistribution of the number of electors from the states is implemented, and under such conditions, small states can compete with large states.

    This also corresponds to the balance of power in Congress, which also numbers 538 congressmen from all states in both houses and reflects to a certain extent the state population in the state and state representation in Congress (Senate and House of Representatives).
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 9 November 2016 21: 17
      +1
      This is not even the main point. Representation of small states is overstated, but not too high. In general, the electoral votes from the 10-15 largest states are of prime importance. California has 55 electors, and the Wyoming you mentioned has only 3. California's representation is underreported, but not that much. Wyoming's representation is much more overpriced. But there are not so many such very small states that have only one or two congressmen (the number of senators is the same from each state - two). Most importantly, each state has a fixed number of electors, regardless of voter turnout. Therefore, the number of electors from the states will not change at all from the fact that in one 40% will come to the elections, and in the other 70%. Plus, this is a winner-take-all system where all of the state's electors are from the same party, even if it has a tiny advantage.
      In both houses, not 538, but 535 congressmen and senators. The District of Columbia (Washington, DC) is not represented in Congress. However, he has as many electors in the presidential election as he would have if he were a state, but no more than the least populated state (Twenty-Third Amendment to the US Constitution). That is, it has three representatives. It turns out that residents of the American capital participate fully only in the presidential election. They are not represented at all in the Senate. One representative is sent to the House of Representatives, but he is not considered a congressman, because he has only an advisory and not a decisive vote. That is, he participates in the discussion of bills, but does not vote.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 9 November 2016 23: 36
        +1
        California is even planned to be divided into two states: Northern California and Southern.
        To reduce its huge weight in the electoral system and make it more effective
        Local government.
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 10 November 2016 13: 07
          0
          There, in my opinion, part of the residents of southern California themselves for this. Anyway. it will not initiate the federal government, it does not have such powers. In addition, apparently, a considerable number of California residents are categorically against the division of state. The larger the state, the more opportunities it has to influence US policy.
  24. Alexdark
    Alexdark 9 November 2016 18: 52
    +3
    1991 - Yeltsin Bush, Mr. President, mission completed ...
    2016 - Trump to Vladimir - Comrade President, the task is complete!
    Times change. Well, at least Americans will think so, in fear of being.
    Radish crap is not sweeter, but still a little bit sweeter. Trump is the smallest of evils, anyway.
  25. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 9 November 2016 18: 54
    +1
    Then a comrade urges the states to learn the mind of the mind. Well, then of course the top of democracy is that at the finish we had to choose from two seventy-year-old, inadequate old people ?!
  26. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 9 November 2016 19: 07
    +4
    I am touched by people who, for the sake of their arguments, rewind history from the moment they need it. Here, a person seems to disagree with how the Crimean peninsula returned to the Russian Federation.
    I would like to ask this person a question: "Are you not embarrassed by the circumstances under which Crimea became part of Ukraine" ?!
    And expressions like "beggar neighbor", well, this is generally smearing snot on the cheeks!
  27. afecn
    afecn 9 November 2016 19: 23
    +1
    Truly today we have Comedy Day on television and on the Internet.
  28. Andrey Panov
    Andrey Panov 9 November 2016 19: 24
    +2
    I don’t care who the president is. All the same, their policy will not change! Such as Nuland will not go anywhere.
  29. rotor
    rotor 9 November 2016 19: 37
    0
    in terms of the number of voters, Trump lost to his rival


    So the forecasts were correct, but they did not take into account all the wisdom of the American electoral system.
    As they say: for what they fought, they ran into something.
  30. aiden
    aiden 9 November 2016 19: 45
    +4
    I enjoy massively clearing the comments of Avakov, Poroshenko, Hollande. Well they did not think that he would win and watered him with shit.
  31. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 9 November 2016 19: 46
    +2
    The news is positive twice.
    Whether Trump will fulfill his campaign promises is of course the question.
    1) The main thing is that Clinton flew by, and that she would fulfill her campaign promises of Russophobia is without a doubt. So the news is positive.
    Whatever you say, definitely HC is a vile bloodthirsty creature without brakes. Her Gaddafi from the next world will get it.
    2) And today svidomye are suffering from bear disease, also nice, and this state will last at least until the inauguration, or maybe longer, but then it will be a change in the hymn, "dead already."
    However, perhaps not only them.
  32. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 9 November 2016 19: 47
    +3
    All rednecks voted for Trump. All naturalized Latinos voted for Trump, because illegal immigrants from Mexico have already got them, who have lowered "below the plinth" the salary and employment bar for "straight" ... All retired and "real" warriors voted for Trump, who promised them a return of "life the social package of the 70s "for military personnel and those who were transferred to the reserve, etc. ... And besides, as some observers in the US police state have correctly noted, people are really afraid to express what they really think - everyone is hypocritical there and on every occasion, because everyone verbally supported Hillary so that they would not be fired or harmed in some other way by her supporters who had dug in in various spheres of US life (still almost 50% of the population), and voted at the polling stations as they considered it right -for Trump.
  33. alavrin
    alavrin 9 November 2016 20: 14
    +2
    What Trump, what Clinton ... but, damn it, it's nice to see Poroshenko’s acidic physics and watch Avakov’s convulsive movements erasing abusive posts ...)
    1. win
      win 10 November 2016 12: 57
      0
      Everyone who said on the eve of the election that Trump had molested them said today,
      that they, in fact, like

  34. dima-fesko
    dima-fesko 9 November 2016 20: 16
    +2
    Clinton Trump Trump Clinton! One thing you need to understand, that they had verbal diarrhea, is the election race. Most likely, Trump's declarations will not take root. Clinton chose a position, Trump had to take the exact opposite (the law of unity and struggle of opposites). Behind one and the other are the oligarchic clans (behind the throne). Trump will not allow the military-industrial and banking sectors (let's not forget the Pentagon) to deviate from the established foreign policy vector (maybe only a small yaw). According to his statements, following the end of January (Barak Huseynovich), he should coordinate US actions to destroy ISIS together with Russia (equal friendship however), but I think this will not happen. That is all politics. Well, if ....., then a shot in Dallas!
  35. YGV-97219
    YGV-97219 9 November 2016 20: 26
    +1
    Pleasantly surprised and we can say admired by the American people!
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  37. renics
    renics 9 November 2016 20: 54
    +1
    (At the same time, according to RIA Novosti, citing American sources, Trump lost his opponent in the number of voters.)
    Such a result can only be in one case, when the election process itself at polling stations can have fraud and manipulation in one way or another. They also reported that long dead people were involved in the voting, as well as with the Trump button disabled in the voting terminals, but I think there were other ways to distort the voting results. But the fact is that in the primary elections this does not give any advantages whatsoever for attracting the maximum number of electors to its side.
    1. aiden
      aiden 10 November 2016 00: 58
      0
      And they showed, the people came to the site, poked a button with Trump and all the time the clinton was selected. And eventually voted for her
  38. Yuriy Nikolayevich
    Yuriy Nikolayevich 9 November 2016 21: 24
    +3
    The creators of the Simpsons were in the know
  39. gg.na
    gg.na 9 November 2016 21: 56
    0
    Yes, it’s not miracles ... This suggests that people in power really have power who do not know how to think fool (such degenerates are also called) Well, everyone knows the winged expression of Sergei Lavrov repeat ... Well, these very same they have forgotten how to think, and Trump won because his brain system is still in perfect order if he could make such a state !!! Well, I made it easy lol of all these puffed-up puffy DB like jerks laughing !!! Well done however!
  40. Maks-80
    Maks-80 9 November 2016 22: 12
    0
    This is how in our country in 1996 the people voted for Zyuganov, and Yeltsenovich defeated.
    1. win
      win 10 November 2016 12: 15
      +1
      in 1996, people voted for Zyuganov, and defeated Yeltsenovich

      In Tatarstan, Zyuganov defeated by a wide margin.
      But the next day the elections were declared invalid and began to count ...
      Yeltsin won by a wide margin.
      Zyuganov was a little indignant and fell silent.
      Yeahhhh! ... Not a fighter !!! ...
  41. Erg
    Erg 9 November 2016 22: 34
    +1
    I understand intellectually that US policy does not depend much on the president of BUT ... Tomorrow I carry an accordion for repair drinks
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 9 November 2016 23: 27
      0
      Recently, it has become a kind of habit to declare that the US President has little influence on the country's policy.) But this is not so. only one who knows little about the history of the United States and the American Constitution can say so.
      1. Erg
        Erg 9 November 2016 23: 48
        0
        Because today is a holiday, let me swim in your thesis. hi
  42. murriou
    murriou 9 November 2016 23: 10
    +1
    Taki appeared in American history a precedent when a millionaire with his family moves into a municipal apartment, which before him was occupied by a family of color laughing
  43. 72jora72
    72jora72 9 November 2016 23: 22
    0
    Quote: Explorer
    The wonders of the American electoral system

    Yeah, the first one has already spoken (Nicolas Maduro). The President of Venezuela called the American electoral system "medieval." The opinion of the leader of a country that is not able to afford even toilet paper obviously means something. In the photo, people living with the most advanced electoral system stand in line for a scarce luxury item.



    Dear, what is he wrong ??? These archaic elections are nothing less than democratic and modern ...
  44. 72jora72
    72jora72 9 November 2016 23: 25
    +2
    Quote: Beautiful lie
    Dear, nothing that there was a referendum and Crimeans, and this is more than 2 million people, voted for secession from Ukraine and accession to the Russian Federation?


    I'm not talking about the legality or illegality of the annexation of Crimea to the Russian Federation. I'm talking about the reaction of the Russian public. And the reaction was essentially like this, "Ahah, they let the pandos suck wassat"
    It should be more modest, that’s what I had in mind.


    Go brew, don’t get distracted ....
  45. pvv113
    pvv113 9 November 2016 23: 46
    +8
    Now the members of the US Democratic Party have time to look at themselves in the mirror

    And Trump can now recall his hysterical rival all her insults
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 10 November 2016 13: 04
      0
      So without her consent you can’t do it.))
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 10 November 2016 16: 29
        +1
        And without her consent - this is another joke wink
  46. CKORPII
    CKORPII 10 November 2016 01: 00
    0
    pensioner,
    from dill for moving a sore spot))
  47. Proton
    Proton 10 November 2016 02: 35
    0
    And we have a sales song about trump laughing which Winnie the Pooh fills, our Ministry of Culture and congratulated her today Lokhmatogo. laughing
  48. Orionvit
    Orionvit 10 November 2016 04: 03
    +1
    Quote: Comrade SCHUKHER
    He owes nothing to anyone, he will steer like a king

    He will follow the trodden path, but he will try to steer like a king, he will repeat the fate of Kennedy. Or in the extreme case of Nixon.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 10 November 2016 13: 10
      0
      Franklin Roosevelt steered much cooler than Kennedy, Nixon, and a number of presidents combined. And nothing, four times re-elected. Made radical changes to the functioning of the executive and judicial authorities of the United States. Beginning with it, the federal budget began to exceed the budgets of all states combined.
  49. Orionvit
    Orionvit 10 November 2016 04: 11
    +3
    Quote: Explorer
    The opinion of the leader of a country that is not able to afford even toilet paper obviously means something.

    Don't blame Venezuela. A country with colossal natural resources, the efforts of the states are frankly driven into the very Middle Ages. Only because he does not want to jump to the tune of the overseas masters and does not want to give his resources to the Western "masters". Honor and praise to the late (killed) Hugo Chavez, for his steadfastness.
  50. Orionvit
    Orionvit 10 November 2016 04: 15
    0
    Quote: Explorer
    So this is because the profession of the head of state is the bus driver

    Reagan was an actor in general, that is, a person by definition plays a role. So be silent.
    1. win
      win 10 November 2016 12: 10
      0
      Reagan was an actor in general, that is, a person by definition playing a role

      And he was an unimportant actress, and he played the role of president so-so.
      Only the dead man plays his part perfectly ...