The third generation of the "Warrior" can get an active exoskeleton

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The composition of the next generation of equipment "Warrior" can enter the active exoskeleton, which increases the capabilities of the musculoskeletal system of a soldier, transfers TASS Post press service TsNIItochmash (included in Rostec).

The third generation of the "Warrior" can get an active exoskeleton




“As for exoskeleton constructions, yes, indeed, developments are being conducted in this direction. The possibility of using active and passive exoskeletons for military personnel is being considered, ”the press service reported.

They said that "at present, the institute is conducting research to improve the existing combat equipment of servicemen, and there is a search for new constructive and technological solutions."

The Institute noted that the passive exoskeleton "does not contain drives and is adapted for unloading the musculoskeletal system." While the active exoskeleton is a “mechanism, in the hinges of which the electric and hydraulic actuators that enhance the capabilities of the musculoskeletal system” must be mounted.

Earlier, the Director General of the Institute Dmitry Semizorov told the agency that the next (third) generation of the “Warrior” will see the light in 5-7 years. According to him, this will be the equipment of "a fundamentally new level for all component systems - protection, destruction, life support, control and energy supply."
  • Igor Ageenko / TASS
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  1. +4
    9 November 2016 14: 54
    And how are the deliveries to the troops of the two previous versions of the Warrior then? They stated that 50-75 thousand pieces will be delivered annually.
    1. +7
      9 November 2016 15: 01
      The first went about 150 thousand. There is no information on the second, and the third is already on the way, it seems that ours is being driven by the USA and NATO.
      1. +17
        9 November 2016 15: 05
        Quote: cniza
        The first went about 150 thousand. There is no information on the second, and the third is already on the way, it seems that ours is being driven by the USA and NATO.

        Or catch up on 25 years of doing nothing.
        1. +5
          9 November 2016 15: 10
          Apparently, the "Warrior" of the future will be almost a symbiosis of a man and an intelligent exoskeleton that will obey the thoughts of its owner, such a futuristic picture emerges.
          1. +4
            9 November 2016 15: 15
            Quote: Giant thought
            Apparently, the "Warrior" of the future will be almost a symbiosis of a man and an intelligent exoskeleton that will obey the thoughts of its owner, such a futuristic picture emerges.

            Well, yes ... and for the price per unit it will be like F-35 ... for the Moscow Region, the priority is the issue of price-quality, rather than high-tech bells and whistles.
            1. +2
              9 November 2016 23: 12
              What do you think it is?
              1. +2
                9 November 2016 23: 21
                Quote: Voyager
                What do you think it is?

                Yes, I would like not IT, but HE to be ... We have been overwhelmed for 25 years, that's enough.
                1. +2
                  9 November 2016 23: 45
                  Well do not carp at the words :)
                  Exactly, on the TsNIItochmash patch. More angles
                  P.S
                  And what kind of trunk?

                  1. +2
                    10 November 2016 00: 04
                    Quote: Voyager
                    And what kind of trunk?

                    I could be wrong, maybe, the store is confusing in front of the store ... but this is a barrel according to the bullpup system, it seems like ... and the front store is probably under the grenade launcher ...
                    I have this version. Kalash in the bullpup version with some kind of new grenade launcher and flexible sleeve for feeding Scorpion cartridges ...
                    But I can be mistaken, maybe everything is too sleek so to say ...
          2. +3
            9 November 2016 15: 16
            The third generation of the "Warrior" can get an active exoskeleton

            And I almost read: the third generation of "Ratnik" can receive active protection ... smile
            1. 0
              9 November 2016 17: 18
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              can get active protection ...

              it would be quite nice bully
              1. +3
                9 November 2016 23: 01
                Next Generation Warrior:
                1. +3
                  9 November 2016 23: 13
                  this option will be abruptly)
                2. 0
                  10 November 2016 06: 16
                  Quote: crazyrom
                  Next Generation Warrior:

                  Well, you're my friend bent :) At least 5 generation.
        2. +2
          9 November 2016 20: 25
          The third generation of the "Warrior" can get an active exoskeleton

          "Unparalleled" forgotten
    2. +1
      9 November 2016 19: 57
      And when did you manage to make the second generation?)
  2. +4
    9 November 2016 14: 56
    Given the physical condition of today's and future defenders of the motherland, an exoskeleton can not do without!
    1. +2
      9 November 2016 15: 02
      Quote: Trigger-Happy
      Given the physical condition of today's and future defenders of the motherland, an exoskeleton can not do without!

      Of course, yes ... only will the price of the third Warrior be acceptable for the mass outfitting of our fighters?
      1. +3
        9 November 2016 15: 58
        I think it’s all the same for the special forces and there will be attack aircraft.
      2. 0
        10 November 2016 01: 09
        Russia is annually declining in the Russian population. At the current pace, in 40 Russians there will be less than 90 million people across the country. I think it will be cheaper to make and adopt a conventionally expensive exoskeleton with increased protection than to receive large losses in military conflicts when using outdated equipment.
        1. +2
          10 November 2016 01: 20
          Quote: cast iron
          Russia is annually declining in the Russian population. At the current pace, in 40 Russians there will be less than 90 million people across the country.

          I do not like all kinds of predictions, but I will try to conduct a simple analysis ...
          Look, about 160 million people currently live in Russia. About 30-40 million Russians live outside the Russian Federation. In the next 5 years, I think the policy of returning Russians to their homeland will go on increasing. Despite the fact that a good part of these same people, compatriots, are people not only that they are capable and qualified, but also just as importantly, capable of procreation. Therefore, I believe, after 40 years, I am convinced that the population of the Russian Federation will be not less than the present, but much more. At the same time, the big question is how and what the Customs Union will turn into, which is becoming more and more like a certain model of the USSR. So, I suppose here you are very wrong.
          As for the Warrior ... so who is against it? It’s only necessary to understand that the cost of one set of the Warrior must be multiplied by 500-700 thousand, and this, sorry, not such a weak price for the Moscow Region.
          1. +2
            10 November 2016 01: 43
            Let's start with the fact that according to official data in Russia according to the census and upon the annexation of Crimea, 146,5 million people live. Of these, ethnic Russians 81%, this is 118,6 million people. Not so much? Moreover, when you consider that the vast majority of Russians living in the CIS countries (excluding Kazakhstan, Belarus and Ukraine) over the past 25 years, nevertheless, by hook or by crook have moved to their historical homeland. The picture is not impressive. Especially considering the fact that today's youth does not give birth to 3-4 children per family - the Russian capitalists did everything economically so that Russian youth in Russia did not give birth to children.
            The population growth in Russia comes from migrants and from large families of Caucasians and Asians. With what I congratulate you.
            No program for the return of Russians to Russia. de facto no. All Russians trying to return home from the CIS countries go through the same bureaucratic tortures as Uzbeks, Tajiks, Azerbaijanis and other foreigners. So all the tales about how officials in Russia love returning Russians are fairy tales. Russian officials love blacks like Roy Jones, elderly Frenchmen like Depardieu, aged scuffle wrestlers like Monson, and aged actors in Ge films like Steven Seagal. Russian officials like to give Russian passports to EVERYONE EXCEPT RUSSIANS. This is a reinforced concrete fact. As a recent migrant from sunny Uzbekistan, I myself can confirm this.
    2. +5
      9 November 2016 15: 18
      I think, after all, the physical condition of the defenders of the Motherland should be corrected by mass sports training in the army, not by Ratnik wink
      1. 0
        9 November 2016 15: 32
        Quote: Chelentanich
        I think, after all, the physical condition of the defenders of the Motherland should be corrected by mass sports training in the army

        it’s too late in the army, it’s been laid down from school, from the first classes.
      2. +2
        9 November 2016 15: 43
        I think the exoskeleton definitely will not be superfluous, but in battle. Those. outside the fighting, they will run with him, but will not turn on. But then how to turn it on, then right away as a Flash superhero everyone runs into =)
    3. +7
      9 November 2016 16: 49
      Quote: Trigger-Happy
      Given the physical condition of today's and future defenders of the motherland, an exoskeleton can not do without!

      I do not agree with you, Russian youth are now going stronger, taller than we say 15 years and especially 30 years ago ...
      It was not an honor to smoke plump, most of them go in for sports and lead a healthy lifestyle.
      1. 0
        9 November 2016 17: 00
        Quote: Skubudu
        I do not agree with you, Russian youth are now going stronger, taller than we say 15 years and especially 30 years ago ...

        ear balm such words, but the eyes see the opposite, unfortunately. Now the children are not visible in the courtyards, our school stadium was not empty even in winter, we played football in the snow, not to mention summer. Something like that I do not see now.
      2. +2
        9 November 2016 19: 59
        Quote: Skubudu
        I do not agree with you, Russian youth are now going stronger, taller than we say 15 years and especially 30 years ago ...

        Well? Well then, the Soviet standard TRP standards were mowed down by a third, so that at least someone passed them?
        1. +3
          9 November 2016 23: 10
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: Skubudu
          I do not agree with you, Russian youth are now going stronger, taller than we say 15 years and especially 30 years ago ...

          Well? Well then, the Soviet standard TRP standards were mowed down by a third, so that at least someone passed them?

          The average Soviet man is 168-175 cm and 65-75 kg weight = drish by and large.
          Now 175 - 180 and weight 75 - 80 kg, people with obesity the truth also increased.
          Gyms, sections, exercise machines are crowded, in summer there are a lot of youth at stadiums.
          Opportunities for sports have become more, nutrition has become better. The promotion of a healthy lifestyle in the Russian Federation is gradually bearing fruit. Tobacco smoking is disappearing, drinkers have become significantly less. if in the 90s and 2000s, bydogan with a bottle of beer on the street is the norm, now everything is different, the youth has different priorities. Those who write that young people in Russia are the majority of thumping and smoking women, most likely do not live in Russia. And drunk on the streets you see a contingent of 35+
          1. +2
            10 November 2016 00: 42
            I agree that my son graduates from the Academy of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. So all the friends do not smoke and do not drink practically. And they will tear anyone for Russia, it’s even amazing where such patriotism comes from after this ...
          2. +1
            10 November 2016 01: 13
            Are you laughing or what? Or fell from the moon? Look at the standard chronicle of the Soviet army - there 18-year-old yesterday's schoolchildren are all pumped up and lean and run 12 km as one at the same speed. With the current 90kg "heroes" can not be compared - they can give a head start of 100 points ahead.
            And about the "availability" of sports today you are lying blatantly. In the USSR, sports activities were many times more accessible. If you consider bodybuilding and fitness to be a sport, then I will disappoint you - this is not a sport, and certainly not suitable for the army. The 100kg jock will die already on the 3km march. He will die stupidly. And after a 12 km march of throws, the Soviet drysch also managed to carry out a combat mission in full combat gear.
            1. +1
              10 November 2016 10: 52
              Quote: cast iron
              Are you laughing or what? Or fell from the moon? Look at the standard chronicle of the Soviet army - there 18-year-old yesterday's schoolchildren are all pumped up and lean and run 12 km as one at the same speed. With the current 90kg "heroes" can not be compared - they can give a head start of 100 points ahead.
              And about the "availability" of sports today you are lying blatantly. In the USSR, sports activities were many times more accessible. If you consider bodybuilding and fitness to be a sport, then I will disappoint you - this is not a sport, and certainly not suitable for the army. The 100kg jock will die already on the 3km march. He will die stupidly. And after a 12 km march of throws, the Soviet drysch also managed to carry out a combat mission in full combat gear.


              The standard Soviet chronicle filmed as a rule those troops where the strongest served.


              There are more sports facilities, BI sections, halls, playpens, sports complexes in modern Russia than the USSR (within the borders of Russia). Now there is more time and opportunities for playing sports.
              Fitness is the general physical fitness of the human body.

              Maybe the studies ordered by the West are trying to suggest that the Russian man is degrading and weakening in all respects, this is a lie. I do not believe in paid studies.
              I’m talking about what I personally see on the street, in the stadium in the summer, in the winter in the gym.
              Glory to the tsar and propaganda that grew in the 2000-2010ths was inspired that it is not good to smoke and thump beer and vodka g.o.s.
              Being physically healthy = being successful. Propaganda really works!
  3. +1
    9 November 2016 15: 02
    Small batches for narrowly targeted units are possible, but not massively. For the cost, the need for service and not always it is advisable, for example, for military equipment operators.
    1. +2
      9 November 2016 15: 29
      Both are good when in the mountains of pikhot or airborne forces pulls everything on their shoulders every gram take into account
      1. +1
        9 November 2016 15: 48
        Quote: 2s1122
        when in the mountains a pixota or an airborne landing pulls everything on their shoulders every gram is taken into account

        Cheaper than St. Bernards, attach to each fighter. Fight yourself lightly, and BK is always there, wagging its tail. Yes, and evacuates in case of injury. The exeks doesn’t have an autopilot and doesn’t evacuate to the rear — a soulless piece of iron, what can I take from it? .
        1. +6
          9 November 2016 16: 14
          As a former cynologist, I like the idea, but .... Purchase, rearing, training, training, veterinary care, maintenance, feeding (moreover, the right and high-quality), etc., etc. plus every fighter must be a dog handler. And who will evacuate the wounded dog? Troublesome and expensive.
          1. +1
            9 November 2016 16: 40
            Quote: WildOwl
            but....
            Another mine detector is not needed)))
            No, I understand perfectly well that massively using dogs in this way is unprofitable, cumbersome and unrealistic. Especially for such generalists.
            But still, the potential of animals must be used. Riding teams, Mongolian horse breeds, the same pigeons. An abyss of hidden opportunities opens up!
            True, they sometimes feel sorry for them more than other people. But there's nothing to be done, service!
            It is after all that their Motherland and it is sometimes necessary to overshadow themselves.
            1. +1
              9 November 2016 18: 29
              Potential needs to be used, but no one. Even official dog breeding is slowly but surely coming off no. And in the opinion of those in power, why should they keep an animal if it is possible to make testers, stick in sensors that do not occupy a place, do not ask and are silent. And the soldiers will endure everything.
              1. 0
                10 November 2016 02: 32
                And how not to get to naught - in our Stavropol Territory almost all the large dogs are eaten by ticks! And it’s still expensive and troublesome to keep them today.
          2. 0
            9 November 2016 19: 16
            And then an exoskeleton for a dog will be needed.
            And so in the future I think these exoskeletons themselves will be able to deliver wounded and unconscious fighters. Only how much it will be energetically beneficial to deliver it on two naga and not like a caterpillar or spider will ship back.
  4. +1
    9 November 2016 15: 16
    As our fellow countryman used to say, not by number, but by skill, if you correctly approach the issue of the exoskeleton, then what is the prospect of that, and now I don’t really doubt the literacy of the approaches, I don’t take into account the warriors.
  5. +1
    9 November 2016 15: 21
    Good ammunition makes life easier for a soldier. The main thing is not to bump into "Star Wars", so as not to get "Snow Troopers" for an unacceptably high price.
    1. +1
      9 November 2016 15: 46
      But with such warriors it will be easier for soldiers to carry out combat missions.
    2. 0
      9 November 2016 17: 14
      [quote = uskrabut The main thing is not to bump into "Star Wars", so as not to get "Snow stormtroopers" for an unacceptably high price. [/ quote]
      Star Wars IMHO must be used on the other hand, namely, to prepare soldiers as Jedi (see Empire strikes back). Of course, it’s a pity that medichlorians are fiction, but ... in the end, in many cultures of the Earth there were warrior monks, to take the same Peresvet and Oslyabyu.
    3. 0
      10 November 2016 01: 16
      I beg you, well, what a sky-high price would a suit for hydraulic and servo drives with an IBM 486 level electronic circuit board have? In this suit, the most expensive will be a rechargeable battery and a micro-generator.
  6. +1
    9 November 2016 15: 23
    Some of the designers in my saws in stalker
    1. 0
      9 November 2016 15: 45
      Many didn’t saw in the stalker at one time. It's no secret that many ideas from games and science fiction migrated to reality. And they are successfully developing.
  7. 0
    9 November 2016 16: 07
    The military fills the vacuum between the developed rehabilitation technologies for the disabled and the soldier.
    A little more and the question will be solved one - whether to allow the robot to kill a person or not.
    1. 0
      9 November 2016 16: 59
      Do not believe how many robots are now crippling and killing people, and not even robots, but just automatic and semi-automatic machines (in the technical sense). Yes, some sawmills are worth.
    2. 0
      9 November 2016 17: 04
      Quote: Serzh_R
      A little more and the question will be solved one - whether to allow the robot to kill a person or not.

      Grandfather Azimov no longer ask - he died. And most likely a huge bolt with a left-hand thread will be put on his three laws.
  8. +1
    9 November 2016 16: 31
    Now there is a tendency towards the format "it is better to have one super-armed and protected soldier than 100 militias" As far as I know, in the past there were already projects of combat units - heavily armored assault groups with exoskeletons, then power was supplied to each fighter's exoskeleton through wires from the armored personnel carrier ... How they are going to solve the issue with the autonomy of the product at this level of development of nanotechnology in the country remains a mystery
    1. 0
      10 November 2016 01: 18
      The main problem of the exoskeleton is the power source. As far as I know in the USA, this problem has not yet been solved. After all, you need to create a lightweight, compact and powerful battery together with a lightweight compact and economical powerful micro-generator.
      1. 0
        10 November 2016 09: 03
        While they will fight along the tram and trolleybus lines. request
      2. 0
        10 November 2016 17: 27
        Food is by itself, but where will they get the drive? in Taiwan to buy what?
    2. 0
      10 November 2016 01: 22
      Quote: JonnyT
      Now there is a trend towards the format "it is better to have one super-armed and protected soldier than 100 militias"

      This trend has always been present.
  9. +2
    9 November 2016 17: 21
    Many countries are working in this direction.
    1. +2
      9 November 2016 17: 43
      The need to answer TALOS has long been brewing
      1. 0
        9 November 2016 19: 37
        Quote: BlackMokona
        The need to answer TALOS has long been brewing

        Is there anything to answer? Have you brought it to mind?
        1. +1
          9 November 2016 19: 52
          Ie need to wait for the full readiness and development of technology for an answer? And then twenty years to sit under technological superiority, while the developers catch up and overtake. And so the prototype is ready, and successfully tested, it is planned to bring it to mind by 2018.
          We are the answer to the news, it will only begin testing in 5-7 years. 2021-2023 year. They were also released in 2013. That is, a lag of 8 to 10 years.
          1. 0
            9 November 2016 21: 09
            And there may be other exoskeletons

          2. +1
            10 November 2016 11: 00
            Quote: BlackMokona
            Ie need to wait for the full readiness and development of technology for an answer?

            It is also not the case to react to each layout in an emergency.
            1. 0
              10 November 2016 17: 07
              That is, the reaction 3 years after the appearance of the prototype, this is an emergency mode. Sir yes you are a noble slop wassat
  10. 0
    9 November 2016 18: 05
    I want to know WHY so stubbornly distract our attention?
  11. 0
    9 November 2016 20: 39
    The exoskeleton is, of course, good, but how they will feed this system and how much it will last in the field.
    1. 0
      9 November 2016 21: 01
      Large capacity lithium flat batteries, it will be possible to replace the batteries with charged ones in the field, and the batteries themselves will continue to work if damaged by shrapnel or bullets.
    2. 0
      10 November 2016 01: 20
      I think a micro-generator gas-turbine on gas or kerosene will be screwed to the battery to it. The dream of science fiction come true - each soldier will have a personal exhaust pipe)))
  12. +2
    9 November 2016 22: 20
    The advantages of such an exoskeleton would be: the possibility of increasing the protection of a fighter, increasing the ammunition load, increasing the number of auxiliary devices for searching for a target and exchanging information, perhaps some kind of automatic first aid mechanism for injuring. Jet engines could be mounted on an exoskeleton! if not for flights, then at least for high jumps)
    1. +1
      10 November 2016 00: 08
      And how many T 34 tanks remained in storage in Russia? smile If this model goes into series - no matter how it was necessary to restore production! lol For the photo good
  13. 0
    10 November 2016 00: 37
    Can gas masks for a start to change funny?
  14. 0
    10 November 2016 01: 34
    According to exoskeletons, we are definitely not behind the Western designers, we already have non-mechanical ones that reduce the load from bones and muscles, there are electromechanical ones and hydraulics. Just making them and throwing them into the troops is like giving a first-grader a slide rule, he can use it, but only as a ruler. So the army does not need exosklets as such, but a system and tactics of their use in combat conditions. It may well be necessary to change the composition of the infantry’s armament. THEREFORE, it is not enough to develop the exoskeleton itself; you need both weapons and tactics, and possibly a strategy for the use of new military units in combat conditions.
  15. 0
    10 November 2016 08: 47
    Quote: kit_bellew
    but ... in the end, in many cultures of the Earth there were monk warriors, take the same Peresvet and Oslyabyu

    You are right, but I will clarify a little - both Alexander Peresvet and Andrei Oslyabya were professional soldiers BEFORE accepting the monastic dignity. And then, in a difficult time, they were again "called to arms"
    Warriors must be prepared in advance. And the piece of iron is just an amp, but not a replacement ...
  16. 0
    10 November 2016 10: 09

    Do not forget to add a mosquito net to the kit when designing a costume.

    These robots can quietly collect information and even kill.
  17. 0
    10 November 2016 10: 14
    Quote: Serzh_R

    Do not forget to add a mosquito net to the kit when designing a costume.

    These robots can quietly collect information and even kill.
    1. 0
      10 November 2016 10: 32
      Quote: Serzh_R
      Do not forget to add a mosquito net to the kit when designing a costume.

      What kind of miraculous judo is this? The mechanocomar is in tune, but is it wearing a helmet?
      1. 0
        10 November 2016 10: 38
        Helmet separately, the mosquito photo did not fit, see below
  18. 0
    10 November 2016 10: 16
    These robots can quietly collect information and even kill.
  19. 0
    10 November 2016 21: 00
    Once again, following the robotic nedotanketki we are going to swell into the dead end direction of exoskeletons. Well, there will be no soldiers in the future wars running across the field! And they a la Transformers will not fight! They’ll just make a sample of real weapons, and even then unfinished, they immediately drag some garbage. What kind of unplayed child at the top is sitting here, orders all toys instead of real weapons?

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