Turbines, mounted on the "Kerch", rearranged to "Ladny"

Ukrainian-made marching engines will be transferred from the anti-submarine ship Kerch, which did not sail at sea after the 2014 g fire, to the guard ship Ladny, reports Flotprom.

According to a source on the Black Sea navy, such a decision was made on the basis that the Kerch turbines are in good condition, while at Ladny they have already exhausted their resources.

“At one time, new turbines were loaded onto Kerch, immediately after buying them from Ukraine, the ship didn’t even go anywhere,” said the source.

According to him, “the engines with the already dismantled by the workers of the 13 ship repair plant and the Turborus enterprise in Rybinsk have now been dismantled, and their installation on the Laidny SKR will soon begin.

It is noted that the turbines were purchased before the rupture of military-technical cooperation with Ukraine.

“Kerch” was put into operation in 1974, the ship displacement - 8,5 thousand tons, speed - up to 33 nodes, cruising range - up to 8 thousand miles, crew - 430 people.

Help resource: "Fire on BOD" Kerch "occurred in November 2014, when the ship was under scheduled maintenance in the waters of the" 13 ship repair plant. " In case of fire, the main damage was caused to the engine room. After that, the media reported that the ship will be disposed of ".

Comments

[svp67]

"L A D N Y Y" These beautiful names were previously given to ships, and most importantly, wisely. God forbid, the ship died, so "Ladny" died, not "Admiral ......", "Moscow" or "Russia".
And I wish "Okay" that the turbines of the heroic "Kerch" would "fall in time for him" and that he would serve the Fatherland more than once and, of course, SEVEN FEET UNDER THE KEEL.

[samoletil18]

The ship burned down, but the turbines remained. Let's hope they bring good luck to Okay. The fact that Trump has come does not mean a great warming to Russia from the Western world, and they still have the loot with a bunch of other resources. I would like "Ladny" to help redistribute something in our favor.

[210ox]

Of course, this is not from a good life .. The fact remains that there is no domestic turbine, and most likely will not be soon. The construction of new ships will be stopped, of course there will be a solution to the Chinese, but these are new projects for their turbines ..

[sergeyzzz]

Do the Chinese have their own turbines?

[210ox]

Ali has EVERYTHING, even if not his own.

[avt]

Quote: 210ox

Of course, this is not from a good life .. The fact remains that there is no domestic turbine,

On the old ship a new turbine! ?? Do you have any idea of ​​fleet property funds?

[Bayonet]

Quote: svp67

And "Okay" I wish that the turbines of the heroic "Kerch" would "come in time"

I join the wishes, but .. second-hand, however.

[lis-ik]

Quote: Bayonet

Quote: svp67

And "Okay" I wish that the turbines of the heroic "Kerch" would "come in time"

I join the wishes, but .. second-hand, however.

Not however import substitution.

[Bayonet]

Quote: lis-ik

Not however import substitution.

Second hand (from the English. Second hand - second hand) - a modern term meaning: used property ...

[lis-ik]

I know what second-hand is, it’s a pity that you don’t understand humor.

[Philip Staros]

As far as I understand, ships of different classes in the fleet are given names of different types - a different trifle is called adjective. And large ones - by names.

[ded100]

All this is good, but it's better to do your turbines!

[svp67]

Quote: ded100

All this is good, but do your turbines better!

Who said that this is bad ... that's just the moment, we missed, and now we are forced to "catch up and overtake", and this all takes time and money.

[Temples]

better

Made laugh. Thank.

[210ox]

C'mon, Temples .. A man has done a dirty copy .. Both by + ..

[Pulya]

When will our turbines go into production ...?

[K-50]

Quote: Pulya

When will our turbines go into production ...?

Who argues. They will be in a year or two, but not now, unfortunately.

[Joker787]

And there is more detailed information, at what stage are work on the creation of Russian turbines for ships?

[Franciscan]

At the stage of cuts and kickbacks, judging by the incoming information.

[fzr1000]

Prove the specifics.

[ingener1966]

In Rybinsk, a stand for testing turbines is being built, which means that design is underway. We slapped a moment with them of course.

[Philip Staros]

Well, we had so much to build and replace, that we decided at first to leave the Ukrainians everything that they can still do, and ourselves to build what we never knew how to. So everyone did the right thing as a whole. Just not everyone had time.

[win]

When will our turbines go into production ...?

Will be in a year or two

Tupolev in a sharashka for a short time copied the best at that time the United States bomber.
And now the engine from Ukraine cannot ...

[rotmistr60]

And now the engine from Ukraine cannot ...

Well it would be that from Ukraine, otherwise everyone was hurt by the Soviets.

[FID]

Quote: Siegen

Tupolev in a sharashka for a short time copied the best at that time the United States bomber.

Are you sure you are in "sharashka"?

[PSih2097]

Quote: SSI

Are you sure you are in "sharashka"?

And his conditions were as in a sharashka, it is said to copy over 2 years, or not ...

In May 1945, Stalin gave Tupolev the broadest powers, but severely limited it in time: he wanted to see a new plane by mid-1947.
In the spring of 1947, the first Tu-4 was ready for flight. He first took off on May 9, 1947. Although various tests continued until 1949, the bomber was immediately put into serial production.

[Monarchist]

As if there is our analogue: M98, but where is he

[askort154]

Siegen .... Tupolev in sharashka for a short time copied the best at that time the US bomber.

But, but ...! Tupolev was already working at freedom. Created a new type of Tu-64 bomber for an atomic bomb, but he did not have time. When 3 American B-29s were overtaken from the Far East, Stalin personally gave the task to Tupolev to copy the B-29, but Tupolev tried to dissuade him, citing that the Tu-64 would be better, to which Stalin reacted: ". When asked how long it would take to make a copy, Tupolev replied - 3 years, Stalin said, I'll give you 2 years. The task was completed successfully. But that's another story, the story of creating a new direction in the aviation industry.

[FID]

Quote: askort154

But, but ...!

Hi Sasha!

[askort154]

Mutually, Serge!

[lelikas]

Quote: Siegen

Tupolev in a sharashka for a short time copied the best at that time the United States bomber.
And now the engine from Ukraine cannot ...

I copied it in short, but in a series he went, after almost four years, and by the way with domestic engines that were already ready.

[AUL]

Tupolev in a sharashka for a short time copied the best at that time the United States bomber.

At that time, Tupolev was led (not directly, of course) by L.P. Beria. Now the process is driven by effective managers. Feel the difference!

[samoletil18]

Car engine in a series of new run problem. But work is ongoing. Good luck to the fishermen!

[fzr1000]

Which motor do you mean? In Yaroslavl, a whole plant was launched, where 4 and 6 cylinder diesels are made from ZERO.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Pulya

When will our turbines go into series ..

We will have everything! After 2020.

[Giant thought]

It’s an entirely acceptable solution, because Kerch, probably, was at the joke forever, and Ladny still needs to run and run. We wish a speedy installation of turbines on Ladny, and that he set out to sea as soon as possible.

[ochakow703]

And damn it, I am terribly sorry for these wonderful "boxes" of project 1134. "Azov", "Ochakov", "Kerch", "Tashkent" and further down the list. They were beautiful and powerful ships, and they served faithfully for many years in the thick of sea events. It's even scary to imagine how many sailors these ships have become relatives for life.
PS And yet, 11thirty-fours, even after their actual death, as a warship, continue to fight. "Ochakov" - Donuzlav blocked with his body, "Kerch" - the heart gives.

[gray smeet]

For the ship "Kerch" it definitely means death .... (in service since 1974 and now as a donor).

[K-50]

Marching engines of Ukrainian production will be transferred from the anti-submarine ship "Kerch", which did not go to sea after a fire in 2014, to the patrol ship "Ladny"

Considering that the Ladnoye's displacement is 2 and a half times less (3200 versus 8400), it will probably be the fastest of the large ships of the Russian Navy.

[svp67]

Quote: K-50

he will probably be the fastest of the large ships of the Russian Navy.

Well this will be the fastest on the Syrian Express

[Rokossovsky]

Quote: K-50

Considering that the Ladnoye's displacement is 2 and a half times less (3200 versus 8400), it will probably be the fastest of the large ships of the Russian Navy.

Don't write nonsense! The ship will be the way it was created and designed, as far as the hardware allows. Guided by your logic, if, purely hypothetically, you push the turbines from Kerch into Buyan, then he will take off, like an ekranoplan! Well, nonsense!

[K-50]

Quote: Rokossovsky

Don't write nonsense! The ship will be the way it was created and designed, as far as the hardware allows. Guided by your logic, if, purely hypothetically, you push the turbines from Kerch into Buyan, then he will take off, like an ekranoplan! Well, nonsense!

There is such a thing - specific power. Other things being equal, its increase affects the acceleration and speed characteristics in the direction of increase. This is not nonsense, this is elementary physics.
I don’t write that it will take off, it will be a couple of knots faster, maybe 35-36 max. On the economic course, it is POSSIBLE to reduce fuel consumption. This is also simple physics. If you are not familiar with it, then you should study in a new way at school, or at least read, repeat it.

[Rokossovsky]

Quote: K-50

I don’t write that it will take off, it will be a couple of knots faster, maybe 35-36 max. On the economic course, it is POSSIBLE to reduce fuel consumption. This is also simple physics. If you are not familiar with it, then you should study in a new way at school, or at least read, repeat it.

First of all, Alexey, you don’t send me to school, I have unlearned my higher technical and understand physical processes!

Secondly, take an interest in the age of Okay, and then show me that hero who dares to squeeze at least 30 nodes out of him!
For efficiency, I agree.
And this:

There is such a thing - specific power. Other things being equal, its increase affects the acceleration and speed characteristics in the direction of increase. This is not nonsense, this is elementary physics.

without calculations no more than your Wishlist and fantasies!
Yours!

[K-50]

Quote: Rokossovsky

take an interest in the age of Okay, and then show me that hero who dares to squeeze at least 30 knots out of him!

During WWII, in my opinion, there was a destroyer leader in the Italian fleet, comparable to the "Ladny" displacement. He walked 42 knots.
Nothing will prevent, except for the power-to-weight ratio, "Ladnoy" to develop a slightly lower speed, all the more "heart" it will get "from scratch", the flies did not sit.
If a decision was made on remotorization, then apparently the condition of the body satisfied the commission that made this decision. Here kickbacks will not help, the commission is statewide and who made the decision is known. So in case of any inconsistencies in the case, there will be someone to ask and who to punish.
With our limited composition of the fleet, such a gross mistake is unlikely to be let down on the brakes.
We will wait for a long and successful service from "Ladny".

[kepmor]

Absolutely the right decision! "Okay" will still need them more.
Here everyone is shouting that there are still no "own" turbines ... tell the stupid "Zorevskie" to copy? What the hell?
After all, they were designed in the 70s and 80s and were outdated, like "omno mammoths", with Rolls and Praits, and they did not stand next to either in fuel consumption or in power.
Therefore, there are none of them, because in fact, you need to do a new one and no worse than RR or PW ... and this is time and money!

[FID]

Quote: kepmor

with Rolls and Priit and with no one stood neither in fuel consumption nor in power.

Are you sure that the listed companies create SHIP rather than AVIATION equipment? Are you a specialist in evaluating the power and fuel consumption? Share information, please ...

[Seaman77]

Quote: SSI

Are you sure that the listed companies create SHIP rather than AVIATION equipment?

RR definitely does. At Queen Elizabeth their turbines are standing. They do a lot for the sea: steering cars, azipode engines (for example, on the Mistral), diesel engines.
About PW did not hear.

[tinibar]

Quote: ded100

All this is good, but it's better to do your turbines!

Undeniable. But he is glad that Ladny is now with a new heart, which means he will still serve! And oh, how needed today!

[tinibar]

Quote: K-50

Marching engines of Ukrainian production will be transferred from the anti-submarine ship "Kerch", which did not go to sea after a fire in 2014, to the patrol ship "Ladny"

Considering that the Ladnoye's displacement is 2 and a half times less (3200 versus 8400), it will probably be the fastest of the large ships of the Russian Navy.

But this is unlikely ... Kerch had 4 turbines d59, if not mistaken. And Ladny has one d59 and one afterburner. They will put two and two either in a warehouse, or on another ship, or on spare parts. A Ladny without an afterburner will be the loser ...

[demiurg]

And turn Kerch into a museum. Very beautiful ship.

[ando_bor]

The nephew on the "Ladnoye" served a conscription, when the Crimea was annexed, the same old ship was under repair in Sevastopol.

[fzr1000]

A little younger than Kerch.

[SKR-1135]

Petrels built in the 70s. My "Reasonable", for example, entered service in 74th

[Sergey Kiselev]

Well, tricks ... Now the first experienced Rybins are stuck, and they are testing, in vain there are people from there.

[Zomanus]

Well, let it be so. And our turbines are already being tested and will soon be delivered to the fleet.

[SKR-1135]

The last BOD, pr. 1134B, it seems that they will soon start up the metal ... Successful project, my father commanded one of this magnificent seven