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Turbines, mounted on the "Kerch", rearranged to "Ladny"

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Ukrainian-made marching engines will be transferred from the anti-submarine ship Kerch, which did not sail at sea after the 2014 g fire, to the guard ship Ladny, reports Flotprom.


Turbines, mounted on the "Kerch", rearranged to "Ladny"


According to a source on the Black Sea navy, such a decision was made on the basis that the Kerch turbines are in good condition, while at Ladny they have already exhausted their resources.

“At one time, new turbines were loaded onto Kerch, immediately after buying them from Ukraine, the ship didn’t even go anywhere,” said the source.

According to him, “the engines with the already dismantled by the workers of the 13 ship repair plant and the Turborus enterprise in Rybinsk have now been dismantled, and their installation on the Laidny SKR will soon begin.

It is noted that the turbines were purchased before the rupture of military-technical cooperation with Ukraine.

“Kerch” was put into operation in 1974, the ship displacement - 8,5 thousand tons, speed - up to 33 nodes, cruising range - up to 8 thousand miles, crew - 430 people.

Help resource: "Fire on BOD" Kerch "occurred in November 2014, when the ship was under scheduled maintenance in the waters of the" 13 ship repair plant. " In case of fire, the main damage was caused to the engine room. After that, the media reported that the ship will be disposed of ".
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  1. svp67
    svp67 9 November 2016 11: 50 New
    +6
    "LADNY Y" here beautiful names were given to ships earlier, and most importantly wisely. God forbid the ship died, so the "Ladny" died, and not the "Admiral ......", "Moscow" or "Russia".
    And I wish “Okay” that the turbines of the heroic “Kerch” “come to his time” and that he would serve the Fatherland more than once and, of course, SEVEN FOOT UNDER KIL.
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 9 November 2016 12: 03 New
      +10
      The ship burned out, but the turbines remained. Let's hope they bring good luck to “Okay”. The fact that Trump came does not mean great warming to Russia from the Western world, but they still have loot with a bunch of other resources. I would like “Ladny” to help them redistribute something in our favor.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 9 November 2016 12: 14 New
        +6
        Of course, this is not from a good life .. The fact remains that there is no domestic turbine, and most likely will not be soon. The construction of new ships will be stopped, of course there will be a solution to the Chinese, but these are new projects for their turbines ..
        1. sergeyzzz
          sergeyzzz 9 November 2016 13: 11 New
          +2
          Do the Chinese have their own turbines?
          1. 210ox
            210ox 9 November 2016 13: 12 New
            +6
            Ali has EVERYTHING, even if not his own.
        2. avt
          avt 9 November 2016 13: 59 New
          +1
          Quote: 210ox
          Of course, this is not from a good life .. The fact remains that there is no domestic turbine,

          laughing On the old ship a new turbine! ?? wassat Do you have any idea of ​​fleet property funds?
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 9 November 2016 13: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      And “Okay,” I wish that the turbines of the heroic “Kerch” “fit into his time”

      I join the wishes, but .. second-hand, however. request
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 9 November 2016 16: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: Bayonet
        Quote: svp67
        And “Okay,” I wish that the turbines of the heroic “Kerch” “fit into his time”

        I join the wishes, but .. second-hand, however. request

        Not however import substitution.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 9 November 2016 16: 52 New
          0
          Quote: lis-ik
          Not however import substitution.

          Second hand (from the English. Second hand - second hand) - a modern term meaning: used property ... hi
          1. lis-ik
            lis-ik 9 November 2016 17: 04 New
            0
            I know what second-hand is, it’s a pity that you don’t understand humor.
    3. Philip Staros
      Philip Staros 10 November 2016 08: 56 New
      0
      As far as I understand, ships of different classes in the fleet are given names of different types - a different trifle is called adjective. And large ones - by names.
  2. ded100
    ded100 9 November 2016 11: 52 New
    +6
    All this is good, but it's better to do your turbines! wink
    1. svp67
      svp67 9 November 2016 12: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: ded100
      All this is good, but do your turbines better!

      Who said that this is bad ... that's just the moment we missed, and now we are forced to “catch up and overtake”, and all this takes time and money.
    2. Temples
      Temples 9 November 2016 12: 07 New
      +4
      better
      wassat

      Made laugh. Thank.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 9 November 2016 12: 16 New
        +3
        C'mon, Temples .. A man has done a dirty copy .. Both by + ..
  3. Pulya
    Pulya 9 November 2016 11: 52 New
    +1
    When will our turbines go into production ...?
    1. K-50
      K-50 9 November 2016 12: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: Pulya
      When will our turbines go into production ...?

      Who argues. They will be in a year or two, but not now, unfortunately.
      1. Joker787
        Joker787 9 November 2016 12: 09 New
        +1
        And there is more detailed information, at what stage are work on the creation of Russian turbines for ships?
        1. Franciscan
          Franciscan 9 November 2016 13: 23 New
          +3
          At the stage of cuts and kickbacks, judging by the incoming information.
          1. fzr1000
            fzr1000 9 November 2016 14: 07 New
            0
            Prove the specifics.
        2. ingener1966
          ingener1966 9 November 2016 14: 37 New
          0
          In Rybinsk, a stand for testing turbines is being built, which means that design is underway. We slapped a moment with them of course. hi
          1. Philip Staros
            Philip Staros 10 November 2016 08: 58 New
            0
            Well, we had so much to build and replace, that we decided at first to leave the Ukrainians everything that they can still do, and ourselves to build what we never knew how to. So everyone did the right thing as a whole. Just not everyone had time.
      2. win
        win 9 November 2016 12: 10 New
        +2
        When will our turbines go into production ...?

        Will be in a year or two

        Tupolev in a sharashka for a short time copied the best at that time the United States bomber.
        And now the engine from Ukraine cannot ...
        1. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 9 November 2016 12: 21 New
          +4
          And now the engine from Ukraine cannot ...

          Well it would be that from Ukraine, otherwise everyone was hurt by the Soviets.
        2. FID
          FID 9 November 2016 12: 52 New
          +5
          Quote: Siegen
          Tupolev in a sharashka for a short time copied the best at that time the United States bomber.

          Are you sure that the "sharashka"?
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 9 November 2016 16: 19 New
            0
            Quote: SSI
            Are you sure that the "sharashka"?

            And his conditions were as in a sharashka, it is said to copy over 2 years, or not ...
            In May 1945, Stalin gave Tupolev the broadest powers, but severely limited it in time: he wanted to see a new plane by mid-1947.
            In the spring of 1947, the first Tu-4 was ready for flight. He first took off on May 9, 1947. Although various tests continued until 1949, the bomber was immediately put into serial production.

        3. Monarchist
          Monarchist 9 November 2016 13: 07 New
          0
          As if there is our analogue: M98, but where is he
        4. askort154
          askort154 9 November 2016 13: 15 New
          +5
          Siegen .... Tupolev in sharashka for a short time copied the best at that time the US bomber.

          But, but ...! Tupolev already worked on "freedom". Created a new type of Tu-64 bomber, for the atomic bomb, but did not have time. When 3 American B-29s were surpassed from the Far East, Stalin personally instructed Tupolev to copy the B-29, but Tupolev tried to dissuade, citing that the Tu-64 would be better, to which Stalin responded: "No need, better, now " When asked how long it would take for a copy, Tupolev answered - 3 years. Stalin said, I give you 2 years. The task was completed successfully. But, this is a different story, the story of the creation of a new direction in the aviation industry. hi
          1. FID
            FID 9 November 2016 13: 58 New
            +2
            Quote: askort154
            But, but ...!

            Hi Sasha!
            1. askort154
              askort154 9 November 2016 14: 06 New
              0
              Mutually, Serge!
        5. lelikas
          lelikas 9 November 2016 13: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: Siegen
          Tupolev in a sharashka for a short time copied the best at that time the United States bomber.
          And now the engine from Ukraine cannot ...

          I copied it in short, but in a series he went, after almost four years, and by the way with domestic engines that were already ready.
        6. AUL
          AUL 9 November 2016 18: 56 New
          0
          Tupolev in a sharashka for a short time copied the best at that time the United States bomber.
          At that time, Tupolev was led (not directly, of course) by L.P. Beria. Now the process is driven by effective managers. Feel the difference!
    2. samoletil18
      samoletil18 9 November 2016 12: 05 New
      +1
      Car engine in a series of new run problem. But work is ongoing. Good luck to the fishermen!
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 9 November 2016 14: 09 New
        0
        Which motor do you mean? In Yaroslavl, a whole plant was launched, where 4 and 6 cylinder diesels are made from ZERO.
    3. Bayonet
      Bayonet 9 November 2016 13: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Pulya
      When will our turbines go into series ..

      We will have everything! fellow After 2020. wink
  4. Giant thought
    Giant thought 9 November 2016 11: 52 New
    +4
    It’s an entirely acceptable solution, because Kerch, probably, was at the joke forever, and Ladny still needs to run and run. We wish a speedy installation of turbines on Ladny, and that he set out to sea as soon as possible.
    1. ochakow703
      ochakow703 10 November 2016 04: 21 New
      +3
      And to hell with me, I am terribly sorry for these wonderful “boxes” of project 1134. Azov, Ochakov, Kerch, Tashkent, and further down the list. The boats were beautiful and powerful, and served faithfully for many years in the midst of marine events. It’s even scary to imagine how many sailors these ships have become family for life.
      PS And yet, thirty-four even after their actual death, as a warship, continue to fight. “Ochakov” - Donuzlav blocked his body, “Kerch” - the heart gives.
  5. gray smeet
    gray smeet 9 November 2016 11: 53 New
    +3
    For the ship "Kerch" this definitely means death .... (in service since 1974 and now as a donor).
  6. K-50
    K-50 9 November 2016 12: 00 New
    +5
    Marching engines of Ukrainian production will be transferred from the anti-submarine ship "Kerch", which did not go to sea after a fire in 2014, to the patrol ship "Ladny"

    Given that the displacement of the Ladny in 2 is half the size (3200 versus 8400), it will probably be the fastest of the large ships of the Russian Navy. winked
    1. svp67
      svp67 9 November 2016 12: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: K-50
      he will probably be the fastest of the large ships of the Russian Navy.

      Well it will be the fastest in the Syrian Express
    2. Rokossovsky
      Rokossovsky 9 November 2016 12: 28 New
      +8
      Quote: K-50

      Given that the displacement of the Ladny in 2 is half the size (3200 versus 8400), it will probably be the fastest of the large ships of the Russian Navy. winked

      Do not write nonsense! The ship will be as it was created and designed, as far as the "iron" allows. Guided by your logic, if, purely hypothetically, you push the turbines from Kerch into Buyan, then it will fly, like an ekranoplan! Well, nonsense!
      1. K-50
        K-50 9 November 2016 13: 24 New
        +2
        Quote: Rokossovsky
        Do not write nonsense! The ship will be as it was created and designed, as far as the "iron" allows. Guided by your logic, if, purely hypothetically, you push the turbines from Kerch into Buyan, then it will fly, like an ekranoplan! Well, nonsense!

        There is such a thing - specific power. Other things being equal, its increase affects the acceleration and speed characteristics in the direction of increase. This is not nonsense, this is elementary physics.
        I don’t write that it will take off, it will be a couple of knots faster, maybe 35-36 max. On the economic course, it is POSSIBLE to reduce fuel consumption. This is also simple physics. If you are not familiar with it, then you should study in a new way at school, or at least read, repeat it. request hi
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        2. Rokossovsky
          Rokossovsky 9 November 2016 14: 23 New
          +2
          Quote: K-50

          I don’t write that it will take off, it will be a couple of knots faster, maybe 35-36 max. On the economic course, it is POSSIBLE to reduce fuel consumption. This is also simple physics. If you are not familiar with it, then you should study in a new way at school, or at least read, repeat it. request hi


          First of all, Alexey, you don’t send me to school, I have unlearned my higher technical and understand physical processes!

          Secondly, take an interest in the age of Okay, and then show me that hero who dares to squeeze at least 30 nodes out of him!
          For efficiency, I agree.
          And this:
          There is such a thing - specific power. Other things being equal, its increase affects the acceleration and speed characteristics in the direction of increase. This is not nonsense, this is elementary physics.

          without calculations no more than your Wishlist and fantasies!
          Yours! hi
          1. K-50
            K-50 9 November 2016 14: 49 New
            +1
            Quote: Rokossovsky
            take an interest in the age of Okay, and then show me that hero who dares to squeeze at least 30 knots out of him!

            During WWII, in the Italian fleet was, in my opinion, the leader of the destroyers, comparable to the “Okay” displacement. He went to 42 knots.
            Nothing will prevent, except for the power supply, the “Ladny” to develop a slightly lower speed, all the more so the “heart” he will get from scratch, the flies did not sit.
            If a decision was made on remotorization, then apparently the condition of the body satisfied the commission that made this decision. Here kickbacks will not help, the commission is statewide and who made the decision is known. So in case of any inconsistencies in the case, there will be someone to ask and who to punish.
            With our limited fleet composition, such a gross mistake is unlikely to be released "on the brakes".
            We will wait from the “Okay” long and successful service. hi
  7. kepmor
    kepmor 9 November 2016 12: 16 New
    +1
    Absolutely the right decision! “Okay” they will still be needed.
    Here everyone shouts that there are still no "own" turbines ... order stupidly "Zorevsky" to copy? What the hell?
    After all, they were designed in the 70-80s and are outdated, like the "omno mammoth", with the Rolls and Privet ones, and were not near either in fuel consumption or in power.
    Therefore, there are none of them, because in fact, you need to do a new one and no worse than RR or PW ... and this is time and money!
    1. FID
      FID 9 November 2016 12: 57 New
      +5
      Quote: kepmor
      with Rolls and Priit and with no one stood neither in fuel consumption nor in power.

      Are you sure that the listed companies create SHIP rather than AVIATION equipment? Are you a specialist in evaluating the power and fuel consumption? Share information, please ...
      1. Seaman77
        Seaman77 9 November 2016 15: 00 New
        +3
        Quote: SSI
        Are you sure that the listed companies create SHIP rather than AVIATION equipment?


        RR definitely does. At Queen Elizabeth their turbines are standing. They do a lot for the sea: steering cars, azipode engines (for example, on the Mistral), diesel engines.
        About PW did not hear.
  8. tinibar
    tinibar 9 November 2016 12: 17 New
    +1
    Quote: ded100
    All this is good, but it's better to do your turbines! wink

    Undeniable. But he is glad that Ladny is now with a new heart, which means he will still serve! And oh, how needed today!
  9. tinibar
    tinibar 9 November 2016 12: 34 New
    +3
    Quote: K-50
    Marching engines of Ukrainian production will be transferred from the anti-submarine ship "Kerch", which did not go to sea after a fire in 2014, to the patrol ship "Ladny"

    Given that the displacement of the Ladny in 2 is half the size (3200 versus 8400), it will probably be the fastest of the large ships of the Russian Navy. winked

    But this is unlikely ... Kerch had 4 turbines d59, if not mistaken. And Ladny has one d59 and one afterburner. They will put two and two either in a warehouse, or on another ship, or on spare parts. A Ladny without an afterburner will be the loser ...
  10. demiurg
    demiurg 9 November 2016 13: 10 New
    +2
    And turn Kerch into a museum. Very beautiful ship.
  11. ando_bor
    ando_bor 9 November 2016 13: 10 New
    +4
    The nephew on the "Ladny" term served when the Crimea was attached, the same old ship was standing for repairs in Sevastopol.
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 9 November 2016 14: 11 New
      +1
      A little younger than Kerch.
    2. SKR-1135
      SKR-1135 10 November 2016 20: 48 New
      0
      Petrels in the 70s built. My "Intelligent", for example, went into operation in the 74th
  12. Sergey Kiselev
    Sergey Kiselev 10 November 2016 00: 59 New
    +1
    Well, tricks ... Now the first experienced Rybins are stuck, and they are testing, in vain there are people from there.
  13. Zomanus
    Zomanus 10 November 2016 14: 05 New
    0
    Well, let it be so. And our turbines are already being tested and will soon be delivered to the fleet.
  14. SKR-1135
    SKR-1135 10 November 2016 20: 30 New
    +2
    The last BOD, pr. 1134B, it seems that they will soon start up the metal ... Successful project, my father commanded one of this magnificent seven