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Project "ZZ". Putin chose a new US president

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The presidential campaign in the United States was not only tense, but also scandalous. Even without the “Russian hackers” it didn’t do: they say that the president of the United States is trying to choose none other than Comrade Putin, and the elections are not held in America, but in the Kremlin. H. Clinton hinted at this. In turn, D. Trump scolded his rival on Twitter in such terms that his advisers were forced to excommunicate the overbearing billionaire from Twitter.



Cake for the winner. Photo source: twitter.com/KFaulders


In case of Trump's victory at Clinton headquarters, they were preparing to say that Trump was chosen by the Russians. In the event of Clinton's victory, other Republicans intended to declare the election results invalid, or even to start something like the “American Spring” in the country. Against the background of this election struggle, pacifist analysts warned: H. Clinton is capable of unleashing a nuclear world war.

Presidential candidates have been overwhelmed to the point that some voters considered them both liars and dishonest people in general. On the eve of the elections, many voters simply turned away from "their" candidates.

Neither Hillary Clinton nor Donald J. Trump is able to return the country to national unity, voters said in a recent poll. "New York Times" and "CBS News Poll".

More than eight out of ten voters said the election campaign disgusted them. Both Clinton, the Democratic nominee, and Trump, the Republican nominee, were viewed by the electorate as dishonest political figures. Most voters spoke about them unfavorably.

According to the survey, the alignment on the eve of the elections was as follows: Hillary Clinton supported 45% of potential voters, and Donald Trump supported 42%. Gary Johnson (Libertarian Party) slipped to the level of 5 percent, and Jill Stein, the candidate from the Green Party, is at the level of 4%.

Among women, H. Clinton had a major advantage compared to her rival - in 14 points. However, Mr. Trump led 11 points among men.

Recall that it was the data of the latest survey “New York Times” and “CBS News Poll”.

This morning, at 06: 30 Moscow time, the chances of Donald Trump to win were estimated by the large American press quite high: at about 80%. Two hours later, this level increased to 95%, as the arrows on the indicators show "New York Times".

Project "ZZ". Putin chose a new US president


The most interesting thing is that on the eve of voting this newspaper predicted Hillary Clinton win with a probability of 85%. It can be said, the forecast came true exactly the opposite.

For a complete victory, we recall, the candidate must enlist the support of 270 electors: such is the indirect democracy in the United States. November 8 Americans vote for electors, and not actually for Trump or Clinton. And to win, a candidate needs to enlist the majority of their votes (at least 270 from 538).

The electors themselves will vote much later, December 19. The results of their voting will be approved by Congress at all next year, January 6. However, this is only a formality.

Then the president will be inaugurated (scheduled for January 20). After that, the elected president will take office, and Barack Obama, who “served” 8 White House for years, will finally leave the Oval Office.

In the last hours of the voting, the candidates went almost on par with each other: for example, with the calculated 75% of the votes “in the pocket”, Clinton had 51.439.842 votes and the billionaire Trump had 52.607.546. It was during the last hours of the voting that Clinton caught up with a competitor - and it seemed that he was about to step on his heels and even overtake him.

The outcome of the vote was decided in nine states that had not previously decided on the choice (the so-called vacillating states). These are Arizona, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Maine, Alaska (in this state the vote ended last, however, due to its small population, it is hardly decisive).

It is the listed states that were supposed to determine the outcome of the race, which no expert could predict against the background of low trust ratings of both Trump and Clinton.

In the last hour, the states of Nevada (in Clinton’s pocket) and Pennsylvania were determined, where the struggle was especially unpredictable (something like a “draw” result was expected, and this staff is densely populated and very important for victory: it gives two dozen electors to vote) . On 8: 30 in Moscow in Pennsylvania was given exactly 48,2% of votes for Trump and Clinton. 2,4% and 0,8% drew off the libertarian candidate Johnson and the green candidate Stein. In fact, one Pennsylvania could give Clinton the opportunity to catch up with Trump, or Trump could overtake Clinton so that she would not be able to get around him. The fight was hot!

At the same time, the agency Reuters tracked the path of candidates in the elections, building a schedule.


Source: Reuters


В "Twitter" The agency said the following about this: "See how it’s up to the White House." That is, it was proposed to see how Trump opened his way to the White House. In essence, Reuters declared Trump the winner in the elections before the summing up in Pennsylvania and some other important states.

The decisive states were the mentioned Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. These states could give victory to Hillary Clinton, but gave it to Donald Trump. Pennsylvania brought Trump 20 electoral votes. The gap made up 215 electoral votes for Clinton versus Trump's 264.


Illustration: Associated Press


264 the votes of the electors from 270 necessary, we note, mean almost one hundred percent victory in the elections.

After winning in Pennsylvania "Twitter" Resource “West Wing Reports” reported that the alleged winner of Trump on Thursday could meet with President Obama at the White House.

At the time this article was published, Trump had 266 electoral votes, while Clinton had 218.

Democrats this time no luck. Apparently, Clinton will stay in stories as a political loser.

* * *


In the November 8 elections, Americans voted not only for the future president, but also for those who will represent their interests in both houses of Congress: 34 from 100 seats in the Senate and all 435 seats in the House of Representatives were put to vote. "Voice of America".

Republicans were expected to retain a quantitative advantage in the lower house of Congress (they now have 247 of 435 seats).

About a third of the seats in the Senate are eligible for re-election every two years. This year, Republicans stand for 24 seats from 34.

On 8: 30 Wednesday, Moscow time, the picture was as follows:


Republicans got a majority in the US House of Representatives. Source: Associated Press, Google


Thus, Republicans have a majority in the House of Representatives, which should provide Trump with relative convenience in making political decisions. Democrat Barack Obama didn’t have this comfort: when many programs were carried out, criticism of Republicans fell upon him. This is partly why he was known as a wimp.
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  1. Damir
    Damir 9 November 2016 10: 22
    +31
    Let's wait until the inauguration, nothing can be predicted up to this point ... Trump (if he wins), you just need to be able to survive before the inauguration .... I'm not talking about how the electors vote (and how their votes count) ...
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 9 November 2016 10: 37
      +19
      Trampush won! smile
      Already 270+
      1. a52333
        a52333 9 November 2016 10: 44
        +25
        Clinton congratulated Trump on the victory.



        SOCIAL NETWORKS
        1. Bloodsucker
          Bloodsucker 9 November 2016 12: 15
          +21
          The once anti-Soviet “truth-lovers” adored throwing accusations that Stalin, de, ordered the city to be liberated “on a holiday date”, regardless of losses. As is usually the case with the irony of fate, the karma boomerang made a full circle and banged the nonsense on the forehead with an incontrovertible fact: the United States threw hundreds of elite soldiers to die precisely for the sake of a “holiday report”.

          The report was supposed to be about the release of Mosul.

          And the holiday is the election of Hillary Clinton as US President.

          But, unlike the Stalinist operations, everything predictably went awry.
          Five hundred soldiers from the 101st US Airborne Division had the role of “tillers”. But instead of a spectacular victory, a no less spectacular meat grinder turned out.
          And this is how this attack looked like - it’s true that only Iraqi special forces got into the frame, but nonetheless:
      2. Damir
        Damir 9 November 2016 10: 47
        0
        Quote: Thrall
        Already 270+

        yes for God's sake, then we’ll wait and see ...
        1. lis-ik
          lis-ik 9 November 2016 15: 53
          +7
          "The king is made by the retinue" this old saying has not been canceled. I think as the "newcomer" Trump gets into the background of politics, his rhetoric will specifically change. It cannot be otherwise, because in any country the president is a cut of the ruling elite.
      3. Rus2012
        Rus2012 9 November 2016 12: 20
        +17
        Quote: Thrall
        Trampush won!

        ... and it’s time from VO to send a congratulatory telegram to Trump on his election as US President!

        I remember he wrote us a greeting :-)
      4. 210ox
        210ox 9 November 2016 12: 31
        +19
        Why are we happy? Is that our man? Whoever you choose, there’s a wedge, damn it. Eisenhower and Roosevelt’s time has gone .. Some kind of marginals rule there, despite their condition.
        1. SAILOROLD
          SAILOROLD 9 November 2016 13: 33
          +1
          Almost written off from my thoughts ... insulting, yes ...)))
        2. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 9 November 2016 16: 31
          +8
          "Putin has chosen a new US president"

          Good headline. Here is such a personnel policy in action. Rotation is not only among our ministers.
          What they will sing in Ukraine now, they connect all events with Putin.
          Kindergarten - and more. Well, and whose dad is stronger?
      5. Red_Hamer
        Red_Hamer 9 November 2016 14: 19
        +1
        Trampush won!
        “Radish horseradish is not sweeter“
      6. Starik72
        Starik72 9 November 2016 15: 16
        +4
        Thrall. Already 289+. And this is a victory! So the Americans did not all lose their minds, and they were tired of the Democrats, whom Hillary represented.
      7. sl22277
        sl22277 9 November 2016 16: 47
        +2
        It’s fitting to declare mourning hohloopertom, now Svidomity ran, like cockroaches under dichlorvos! And rightly so - the United States is far away, and Russia is behind the fence. You had to think with your brains, not your ass.
      8. rjxtufh
        rjxtufh 10 November 2016 01: 03
        +1
        Quote: Thrall
        Trampush won!

        Yes, I won. And now Russia is likely to expect REALLY difficult times. Prices for raw materials are likely.
    2. Same lech
      Same lech 9 November 2016 10: 43
      +8
      Trump (if he wins) before the inauguration is still just to be able to survive ....


      Interesting ...
      and what new adventures can happen to him after the sensational story from KENNEDY.? .. now he needs to be protected as FORT KNOX ...
      1. Damir
        Damir 9 November 2016 11: 11
        +3
        With Respect ... but IT IS NECESSARY to protect and WILL they protect (not even that, of course they will protect it - the diligence of the guard, its quality, many factors ....) are somewhat different things ... the scandal of course (pah, pah, pah) it will be grandiose ... but it didn’t get away with it ...
      2. Dmitry 2246
        Dmitry 2246 9 November 2016 12: 05
        0
        There is an option to dunk the "smoked" one, to cancel the elections and the Congress to appoint a crisis president. Then a civil war is inevitable.
        1. Damir
          Damir 9 November 2016 14: 15
          +1
          No, this will not lead to the cancellation of the election results ... the vice president will transfer power in this case ..
    3. Titsen
      Titsen 9 November 2016 11: 16
      +3
      Quote: Damir
      This time the Democrats were out of luck.


      Dermocrats even lost on mattresses!

      Maybe for starters, at least a little bit of our tongue is stuck in the hole at the fifth fulcrum ?!
      1. Damir
        Damir 9 November 2016 11: 27
        0
        The phrase is not mine ... You respected her somewhere else found her ....
    4. ramzes1776
      ramzes1776 9 November 2016 11: 31
      +6
      Give Maidan in America.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 9 November 2016 11: 50
        +7
        I thought Trump would be the presidential springboard for Clinton. It turned out that such jumps for Clinton are too tough. She will have to remain unrevealed - at least some plus for Bill. smile
        1. lis-ik
          lis-ik 9 November 2016 15: 54
          +1
          Quote: SRC P-15
          I thought Trump would be the presidential springboard for Clinton. It turned out that such jumps for Clinton are too tough. She will have to remain unrevealed - at least some plus for Bill. smile

          Bill today is likely to get a saxophone on the head.
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 9 November 2016 12: 59
      +1
      Clinton congratulated Trump on the phone as president of the United States and admitted defeat. Finita la comedy! hi
    6. A jacket
      A jacket 9 November 2016 13: 17
      +16
      The Americans are already joking that "Trump's best joke after taking office will be sending Hillary as ambassador to Libya."
    7. Finches
      Finches 9 November 2016 13: 21
      +4
      Even with my dislike of the Anglo-Saxons, I applaud the Americans while standing! They turned out to be smart and wise guys!
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 9 November 2016 16: 25
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        Even with my dislike of the Anglo-Saxons, I applaud the Americans while standing! They turned out to be smart and wise guys!

        It is their elites (who have sucked to the nation, but are not related to it by blood) that cause dislike, and the people are mostly worthy everywhere.
  2. cedar
    cedar 9 November 2016 10: 25
    +42
    Touches the twist "indirect democracy". Curve, crafty, cunning and there is no other name for it, like the whole cunning capitalist anti-system of "free" elections ...
    "..." Under capitalism, there are no real "freedoms" for the exploited, if only because premises, printing houses, paper warehouses, etc., necessary for the use of "freedoms" are the privilege of the exploiters. and under capitalism there can be no real participation of the exploited masses in governing the country, if only because under the most democratic orders under capitalism, governments are not set up by the people, but by the Rothschilds and the Stinnes, the Rockefellers and the Morgan. Democracy under capitalism is capitalist democracy, the democracy of the exploiting minority, resting on the restriction of the rights of the exploited majority and directed against this majority ... "

    Source: I.V. Stalin. “On the Foundations of Leninism,” Vol. 6, p. 115

    See the root.
    1. Titsen
      Titsen 9 November 2016 11: 23
      +4
      Quote: cedar
      Democracy under capitalism is capitalist democracy, the democracy of the exploiting minority, resting on the restriction of the rights of the exploited majority and directed against this majority ... "

      Source: I.V. Stalin. “On the Foundations of Leninism,” Vol. 6, p. 115


      Directly pre-election poster against modern Russian shit!

      A look through decades at our reality!
    2. 97110
      97110 9 November 2016 11: 29
      +4
      Quote: cedar
      as well as the whole cunning capitalist anti-system of "free" elections ...

      Touching self-criticism. We live in a well-maintained democratic capitalist society ...
  3. Shil
    Shil 9 November 2016 10: 28
    +44
    I do not feel any positive feelings for Trump, but it is good that all kinds of degenerates - LGBT, feminists, etc., screwed up with Clinton.
    1. rvRomanoff
      rvRomanoff 9 November 2016 10: 44
      +4
      Here, and it was still fun to watch the collapses on the exchanges, listen to McFaul's screams - about the merry and singing of Merkel - Germany to get ready, we are next.
      1. BARKAS
        BARKAS 9 November 2016 11: 24
        +1
        McFaul has not yet decided how and what to yell.
    2. andr327
      andr327 9 November 2016 11: 46
      +3
      Not Trump won, but the Americans voted against the democratic Clinton with its warlike values!
    3. A jacket
      A jacket 9 November 2016 11: 58
      +2
      Quote: Shil
      I do not feel any positive feelings for Trump, but it is good that all kinds of degenerates - LGBT, feminists, etc., screwed up with Clinton.

      and, along with them, Obama and his administration, and most of the American media, which propagandized Clinton hard!
      Maybe we are not losing as much in the information war with the West as it seems?
    4. Odysseus
      Odysseus 9 November 2016 12: 34
      +1
      Quote: Shil
      I do not feel any positive feelings for Trump, but it is good that all kinds of degenerates - LGBT, feminists, etc., screwed up with Clinton.

      This is a trifle, the almighty Jewish clan screwed up (which controls this trifle).
      The old industrial clans, the military-industrial complex and the Pentagon won.
      But for Russia, this is good news.
      1. RUR
        RUR 10 November 2016 14: 57
        +2
        Quote: Odyssey
        This is a trifle, the almighty Jewish clan screwed up (which controls this trifle).

        Drink honey with your lips ... But you still need to fill up the Jewish mafia, it hasn’t gone anywhere either in the USA or in Russia. In the USA, the American media (almost 100% in Jewish hands) staged, as we all remember, the real persecution of Russia and Putin. And why? Answer: precious Israel is near.
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus 10 November 2016 17: 30
          +1
          Quote: RUR
          But the Jewish mafia still needs to be overwhelmed,

          At the moment, this is impossible. The defeat of the Jewish clan is tactical - they are betting on "multicultural globalism" and the power of TNCs without the control of nation states.
          But this does not mean that Trump even tries to oppose the Jewish lobby and Israel. In modern America, this is simply impossible, in which case he would simply disappear from public space.
          Trump himself is personally closely associated with Jewish circles, his beloved daughter (and de facto one of the heads of his headquarters) adopted Orthodox Judaism and was married to a major Jewish magnate.
          1. RUR
            RUR 10 November 2016 18: 56
            +1
            Quote: Odyssey
            put on "multicultural globalism" and the power of TNCs without the control of nation states.


            But after all, Trump opposed the multi-stump. Although whether it goes further than this is a question. Time will tell
            1. Odysseus
              Odysseus 10 November 2016 21: 09
              0
              Quote: RUR
              But after all, Trump opposed the multi-stump.

              Yes, he opposes the multi-cult, but not against the interests of Israel. He is for the "good old" America of the 50s-80s (in close alliance with Israel).
              But the Jewish lobby is strictly for "multi-stump". This is such a confusing situation.
              Quote: RUR
              Although whether it goes further than this is a question. Time will tell

              Most interesting. Let's see.
              1. RUR
                RUR 10 November 2016 22: 45
                +1
                Quote: Odyssey
                Yes, he opposes the multi-cult, but not against the interests of Israel. He is for the "good old" America of the 50s-80s (in close alliance with Israel).
                But the Jewish lobby is strictly for "multi-stump".


                Trump is strictly against multi and globalization, therefore, a clash is inevitable, blood will probably be shed, but if the neocons are eradicated from the multi in Israel, then Israel will be bent, then you can expect requests and demands for the return of a significant number of Jews to Russia, which is highly undesirable
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 November 2016 10: 36
    +8
    Clinton is likely to remain in history as a political loser.

    How to say it. America is not predictable in terms of elections. The one who gets the minimum number of votes can win. This is how it is called "democracy" in the American way.
  5. Maks-80
    Maks-80 9 November 2016 10: 38
    +6
    Congratulations to Trump with all my heart! drinks
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 9 November 2016 10: 41
      +7
      Quote: Maks-80
      Congratulations to Trump with all my heart!

      And at the same time, the US military-industrial complex, which needs contracts for Syria ...
      1. lis-ik
        lis-ik 9 November 2016 15: 57
        +1
        Quote: sa-ag
        Quote: Maks-80
        Congratulations to Trump with all my heart!

        And at the same time, the US military-industrial complex, which needs contracts for Syria ...

        Moreover, Trump promised an increase in production and, first of all, the military-industrial complex.
    2. a52333
      a52333 9 November 2016 10: 50
      +2
      If honestly, I do not see a single reason for drinks
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 9 November 2016 11: 00
        +1
        The news was ---- Mexican peso and oil prices fell. Fake? ?? In connection with the victory of trump.
      2. Titsen
        Titsen 9 November 2016 12: 09
        +1
        Quote: a52333
        If honestly, I do not see a single reason for drinks


        Well, that's okay!

        Do not be offended, but your opinion does not solve anything
    3. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 9 November 2016 11: 11
      +7
      Quote: Maks-80
      Congratulations to Trump with all my heart!

      Let's see what you say in a year.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 9 November 2016 11: 40
        +6
        Why wait a year. Even in memory, how Gore won by the number of votes, and who became president?
        1. INTA_VEGA
          INTA_VEGA 10 November 2016 11: 31
          0
          Even in memory, how Gore won by the number of votes, and who became president?

          So now the story has just repeated - Clinton has a majority in population, a minority in electors.
          At the same time, remember that cases when electors vote against the candidate from whom they went are isolated. And, it seems, in 12 states - to vote against the one from whom he went as an elector is prohibited criminally.
      2. Ural resident
        Ural resident 9 November 2016 12: 05
        +8
        Really - and here is why euphoria? It is naive to think that something will change in relation to us ...
        1. sa-ag
          sa-ag 9 November 2016 14: 09
          +1
          Quote: Resident of the Urals
          Really - and here is why euphoria?

          I believe for the reason that they think that something will happen now that will allow lending in the West as in pre-sanction times, the only thing that people can enjoy is money ...
  6. legend of the nation
    legend of the nation 9 November 2016 10: 39
    0
    Quote: Thrall
    Trampush won! smile

    Right !!!
  7. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 9 November 2016 10: 40
    +8
    I would prefer that Vovochka win there
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 9 November 2016 11: 29
      +17
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      I would prefer that Vovochka win there

      Not Vovochka, but Vladimir Vladimirovich, but we ourselves need him here.
      1. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 9 November 2016 17: 08
        +2
        In response to this decree of Putin, the new American president should begin his speech with the words "The Lord appointed me his beloved wife!" Although he hardly watched "White Sun of the Desert" ...
    2. papik09
      papik09 9 November 2016 11: 30
      +2
      And lip, you have sir, not a fool)))
      1. INTA_VEGA
        INTA_VEGA 10 November 2016 11: 36
        +1
        Generally some generally inadequate in the comments.
        What does the US election and the president of the Russian Federation have to do with it?
        And for some reason there are very big doubts that the American political system would have digested a president like Vovochka for more than one term.
  8. stas
    stas 9 November 2016 10: 40
    +10
    At least one good news from the USA.
    Obama will again blame Putin for this, which means we know when we want to.
    Go Russia!.
  9. NEXUS
    NEXUS 9 November 2016 10: 42
    +17
    How many forecasters have already prophesied that Obama will be the last president of the United States ... let’s see if they were right.
  10. Koresh
    Koresh 9 November 2016 10: 45
    +11
    Well now it is necessary, I would say it is necessary to see how the Ukrainian media will panic, let the tantrum start that Madame Clinton did not win. Now I wonder how they will idolize and whitewash Trump)))
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 9 November 2016 12: 12
      +3
      If necessary, Ukraine will have such a plan for the new owner. And you need money and you don’t want to lose your power. And what's the difference whose fifth point to lick, the main thing is that there should be a return.
      1. Koresh
        Koresh 9 November 2016 12: 24
        +1
        Saakashvili is already boasting about friendship with Trump, Petro has not said anything yet. Miho now we have a great opposition and patriot of Ukraine, from see whether his friend Trump will support him.
        1. rotmistr60
          rotmistr60 9 November 2016 12: 25
          +1
          So Trump did not hear about this miscarriage.
        2. Uncle
          Uncle 9 November 2016 12: 54
          0
          Quote: Koresh
          see if his friend trump will support

          Ukraine will be torn to pieces by Putin !!! smile
  11. Ustrushan
    Ustrushan 9 November 2016 10: 46
    +15
    Yes! Now Trump (as before Abamych) with the firm hand of the US president will press the militaristic aspirations of his elites. He will extend the hand of peace to Russia and China. Finally, he will begin to live within his means and stop the expansion of the dollar, providing it with gold and diamonds. The USA will strictly follow the UN Charter and Humanism and will not interfere in the affairs of other countries! Do you expect this?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 November 2016 10: 58
      +5
      Economic hands to China - Trump promised to cut.
      1. would
        would 9 November 2016 22: 45
        0
        I think you yourself know what the price of campaign promises of a politician is.
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 9 November 2016 11: 02
      +3
      Interestingly, will they give him a prize right away too?
    3. FREGATEN
      FREGATEN 9 November 2016 11: 12
      +2
      We expect that with a person who has come to the presidency, one can speak humanly ... And don’t have to scoff!
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 9 November 2016 11: 24
        +2
        And when they chose Barak, you probably also rejoiced that the Indians and blacks would feel better? Yes, and his education, and the prize will be justified .....
  12. Maks-80
    Maks-80 9 November 2016 10: 48
    +22
    Next we are waiting for the victory of Marie Le Pen love And another old witch to blame is Merkel lol
    1. Koresh
      Koresh 9 November 2016 11: 48
      +4
      Everywhere then there will be a hand of Moscow and in Ukraine there will be social and mental dissonance.
  13. Knowing
    Knowing 9 November 2016 10: 50
    +9
    Well, it's time to come to grips with Germany and France ... repeat
  14. von_Tilsit
    von_Tilsit 9 November 2016 10: 54
    +5
    The USA, frankly speaking, is a country of brilliant showmen. For a whole year, she gave the whole world the most memorable reality show in the last 50 years. But then what? Hillary is our enemy, it's clear, but Trump is not a friend either. What can you expect from a politician whose electoral slogan ("For a Greater America") is copied from the motto of Oswald Mosley, the leader of the British fascists of the 30-40s ("For a Greater Britain") ?? Hard to tell. In general, nothing has been 100% decided yet. We are buying popcorn, waiting for news))
  15. Masya masya
    Masya masya 9 November 2016 10: 55
    +20
    Trap, Clinton, what difference does it make, which doll will voice the will of the US Federal Reserve
  16. Vadim237
    Vadim237 9 November 2016 10: 57
    0
    Well, Trump won, and I came out the winner in the bet.
    1. chikenous59
      chikenous59 9 November 2016 11: 07
      +4
      Я
      Я
      I AM..
      What a fellow)) Wait until December 20, when the election results are announced!
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 November 2016 11: 23
        +2
        I do not need them - I put it on the very first results - Trump made me very happy today.
    2. Uncle
      Uncle 9 November 2016 13: 08
      +1
      Quote: Vadim237
      Я

      Torpedo head ... smile
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 November 2016 14: 17
        0
        "Torpedo head". Yes - today I specifically struck the board of one of the debaters on finance.
  17. Gennady Kuzminykh
    Gennady Kuzminykh 9 November 2016 11: 01
    0
    Let's wait and find out.
  18. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 9 November 2016 11: 02
    +4
    Quote: Damir
    Let's wait for the inauguration

    That's certainly a wonderland. It would seem that the ordinary citizen, who does not receive grants from the State Department, cares about all these trumps and old Clintons, but here you go, the news does not leave the front pages of Russian media.
    1. Standard
      Standard 9 November 2016 12: 18
      +1
      The demonstration of American democracy in practice is simply interesting.
  19. Observer2014
    Observer2014 9 November 2016 11: 03
    +16
    To be honest. For the first time in my life I worry about the elections in the USA. And I watch the action with genuine interest. But I have already made my first conclusions. Drive these "teachers of democracy" with a lousy broom with advice on how to live in Russia.
    For Trump glad. Maybe something really will change for the better. In relations between our countries. And the woman’s yaga has broken off! Together with his team of lizbians. Now they have shown on the news. They are fighting laughing Trump needs to be careful. Everyone remembers the story of Kenedy. And some "lone patriot" can easily be sent from the camp of Baba Yaga out of malice.
    1. AUL
      AUL 9 November 2016 11: 42
      +7
      At one time, when they chose Babamka, we also had euphoria. So it's too early to throw caps into the air, wait and see. Although Trump seems to me a more adequate man, he is still a businessman, not a politician.
  20. predator4832
    predator4832 9 November 2016 11: 03
    +13
    Whoever they choose, I’m not sure that this will reflect well for Russia. Trump is certainly prettier, for Russia, in his statements. But. We understand that it is not the presidents who actually rule the United States. Therefore, what is there and who will stand, does not matter much. Everything will be decided by completely different people. And why did anyone get the idea that Trump will make concessions to Russia? Trump is just as American as everyone. And I think that he will continue to go in the same direction as the USA has been going recently.
    First, he will need to show his citizens that he is acting in the interests of the United States.
    Secondly, he will need to show that he is not a puppet of the Kremlin, with which he was branded by Hilary.
    Thirdly, he will simply do everything as a US patriot so that his country remains the leader and hegemon in the world.
    I think that nothing will change here in US politics. Although many think that they say it will become better and the United States will lose ground. Well, Obama also once promised peace to close Guantanam. Neither peace nor the closure of Guantanam we saw. Therefore, it’s enough to harbor illusions.
    1. Standard
      Standard 9 November 2016 12: 15
      +1
      Of course, after the inauguration of Trump, they will bring some top-secret papers for signature, and only from this moment will the real activities of Trump begin.
  21. guzik007
    guzik007 9 November 2016 11: 03
    +2
    Well, a mustache, come!
    Omeriga was tramping ...
  22. Vadim237
    Vadim237 9 November 2016 11: 05
    0
    Clinton, probably, is already a blow - that’s it.
  23. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 9 November 2016 11: 08
    +7

    The task is completed. Congratulations on the promotion.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 9 November 2016 11: 25
      +1
      "The task is completed. You can congratulate" - Kick in the ass from the White House.
      1. von_Tilsit
        von_Tilsit 9 November 2016 11: 47
        +2
        Operational pseudonym "Smoked"))
    2. masiya
      masiya 9 November 2016 11: 36
      +2
      And retiring to retirement to Kenya ...
    3. den3080
      den3080 9 November 2016 15: 13
      +1
      Nope) This is Lieutenant Colonel Trump who has arrived in Moscow and will wash a new star at the same time)
  24. dimitresky
    dimitresky 9 November 2016 11: 10
    +11
    I do not understand all these enthusiastic comments about Trump's victory. Firstly, you never know what he said before the election, and secondly, we knew at least roughly what to expect from Clinton and could plan a political behavior, but Trump, in my opinion (maybe not objective), seems to me like a monkey with a grenade.
    We cannot even imagine which way our bilateral relations will go. Sometimes underexposure is worse than poor certainty.
    1. Bloodsucker
      Bloodsucker 9 November 2016 11: 28
      +16
      Trump will defend the interests of the United States, and quite specific elite groups, which are mentioned in a recent article on the American election: part of the special services, oil companies, coal companies, part of the farm, part of the agricultural sector and, of course, developers who were promised to give the money that You can save on reducing the military presence abroad. It's good. This means that Putin will have a partner for dialogue, with whom there will be at least a chance to negotiate with a more or less rational interlocutor. Is he selfish? Wonderful. Pragmatic grabber? Hooray! A businessman without a soul? Sumptuously. Compared to the crazy Clintonites, for whom the destruction of Russia is a fixed idea, it is a very good partner for a possible dialogue. I emphasize once again: it will not be easy with him, but at least there is a good chance to avoid mutual conversion into radioactive ashes. This is not trampophilia, it is the most banal love of life.
      https://cont.ws/post/424206
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 9 November 2016 12: 30
        +2
        Quote: The Bloodthirster
        oil companies

        The oil workers split up (part was for Clinton), but you forgot to mention the military industrial complex (they are, with rare exception, Trump).
        But for the Jewish corporate clan (finance, media) this is a huge blow smile
        And it is good for Russia. The "elites" are too corrupt, they will not stand the pressure of the "Western partners". But the party is not a Bolshevik now. We need time.
    2. Standard
      Standard 9 November 2016 12: 12
      +3
      Clinton promised to wipe Russia off the face of the earth. And at least some movements MUST be done.
      And Trump in this sense is free.
  25. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 9 November 2016 11: 10
    +2
    To go nuts! I am starting to believe that democracy exists! laughing
    1. Irbenwolf
      Irbenwolf 9 November 2016 11: 24
      +4
      Do not believe! Just after analyzing all the generated fornication, over the past ... 15 years, it was urgently necessary to "screw up" from everywhere. Clinton in front of her "sixes" could not do this, because "great America" ​​(its main message), but through Trump, it is quite possible. Like it's not us - it's the new president whom we - "progressive Americans" (for now) call a "fool", and when "singing" - then we'll have a look. If he sings well, we will definitely "see".

      But when the harlots rake ... those who need it most (in Syria - Russia, in Ukraine - Europe and Russia, in Iraq - Iran, in Libya - Europe) - then you can start playing superpower again ...
      1. von_Tilsit
        von_Tilsit 9 November 2016 11: 46
        +1
        By the way, it sounds quite reasonable, comrade))
    2. Standard
      Standard 9 November 2016 12: 09
      0
      Competent manipulation of consciousness - exists, that's for sure.
      And "how to count" also exists.
      But "as it was conceived in the headquarters"? - we'll see more.
    3. Stanislas
      Stanislas 11 November 2016 15: 44
      0
      Quote: vladimirvn
      I am starting to believe that democracy exists!
      Likewise. It was hard to believe in the existence of an American people capable of expressing their interests and political will. But the Americans showed that there is a people in the United States, and not just trained overfed "penguins".
  26. masiya
    masiya 9 November 2016 11: 15
    +2
    Finally, at least such an intermediate option, Trump will be long before January, and what will be the final version you still need to see in the future ...
  27. svp67
    svp67 9 November 2016 11: 20
    +7
    This round was MUCH more interesting to watch than our football.
    Honestly, I envy the Americans. They once again proved that with all the obsolescence of the electoral system, but the people are able to influence the election results. They believe they can change and influence. Unlike us, who believe that everyone has already decided for us. We need to take an example from them. Do not be ashamed to learn good.
    I congratulate the PEOPLE of the USA on HIS victory. That's WHY many are so drawn to America. How I want my Fatherland to become better and it was from him that they took an example. I know we can.
    1. von_Tilsit
      von_Tilsit 9 November 2016 11: 37
      +2
      A naive liberal man! Moderate your ardor, the Americans still will not appreciate. As for Trump, his victory is still very possible, but not a foregone conclusion.

      PS: "... the people of the USA ..., ... congratulations ..., ... are drawn to America ...". Comedian, damn it. I can imagine how the happy residents of Syria, Afghanistan and Libya are now reaching for America, how the residents of Belgrade smile happily at the word "USA", how they freeze in ecstasy of adoration at the sight of the American flag. Babbling, however!
      1. svp67
        svp67 9 November 2016 11: 59
        +2
        Quote: von_Tilsit
        A naive liberal man!

        I’m already half a ruble, and the army service does not teach liberalism, so here you got TWICE “into milk.” And I deeply don’t care how they will react to my comments in America. I really want as many people as possible come to OUR next elections and show peacefully what and how they think about what is happening in our country.
        You are a vivid example of the fact that you have already come to terms with the fact that EVERYONE ALREADY DECIDED FOR YOU. But I don’t want this, I really want my voice to be heard.
    2. Standard
      Standard 9 November 2016 12: 05
      0
      Quote: svp67
      They believe they can change and influence.

      Not at all. In the reports "from the field" the people just expressed themselves like doomed - as we have "everything was decided long ago." Perhaps this decision provided room for Trump.
      But the supporters of Hillary seem to have been thrown.
    3. bk316
      bk316 9 November 2016 12: 44
      +3
      I know we can

      Of course we can, but we chose Putin and not Yavlinsky and not Zyuganov!
  28. 501Legion
    501Legion 9 November 2016 11: 24
    +3
    The candidate who can promise relaxation in relations or their greatest intensity won. I hope Trump is not as idle talk as the people before him and something will change, but so far a couple of months before his assumption of office and then only time will tell us to rejoice or not. In the meantime, I congratulate everyone that it was not Hillary who won.
    1. svp67
      svp67 9 November 2016 11: 34
      +4
      Quote: 501Legion
      Won a Candidate Who Can

      What I can say in this matter is that he certainly can with women ... but what he can do in politics, so let's live and see.
      One thing I can say is that I applaud VVP once again, no matter how bad it is, but not one bad word about "partners", because he understands that he still has to sit down and negotiate.
      Unlike Poroshenko, this is HOW he will now have to lick Trump's "fifth point", with all the Ukrainian-Jewish passion and thoroughness ... I will watch this process with GREAT pleasure.
  29. masiya
    masiya 9 November 2016 11: 28
    +1
    Good shake for the states ...
  30. den-protector
    den-protector 9 November 2016 11: 29
    +7
    I wouldn't be so happy about Trump's supposed victory. Even if he really wins, US foreign policy in general and in relation to Russia in particular is unlikely to change. About the previous US President BH Obama, they also said that he was almost our dude, since he is black, so he is like against oppression and all that stuff. And what happened. It turned out to be the same x ..., only in the other hand. The US President is not an independent political figure, he is just a high-level top manager. Executive Director of "USA" LLC, so to speak. But in reality, LLC "USA" is run by the "founders" - the clans-owners of TNK (TNB) Morgan, Fitch, Rockefeller, Rothschilds, etc. They are customers and beneficiaries of all large and small armed conflicts, right up to world wars. Therefore, one should not hope for major positive changes. Maybe for the sake of appearance, something will change. And so for the United States, Russia is the main spiritual, political, economic and military competitor, which must be weakened by any means, or better destroyed completely. It's only scary to fight on our own, even if they attack with the code. And I really want to overwhelm a competitor. Therefore, we recall Comrade A. Dulles's 1945 instruction. It seems to be still in effect.
    1. svp67
      svp67 9 November 2016 11: 42
      +3
      Quote: den-protector
      I would not be so happy about Trump's alleged victory. Even if he really wins, US foreign policy in general, and in relation to Russia in particular, is unlikely to change.

      You know, and I rejoice. Understanding perfectly that the US policy really probably will not change, but I am glad that I saw once again an example of how people, without Maidan and blood, can influence in a situation when everyone has decided for him what is better for him and how he should vote.
      And what are we worse. Trump EVEN does not suspect what the PEOPLE of America has just done for him and for the whole world. Let's take an example from the best and do it even better. Our election system is more advanced, we can, we just MUST now want to want this.
      1. Standard
        Standard 9 November 2016 11: 59
        0
        The main thing in the Trump phenomenon - Trump was present. And who will be available with us - again Medvedev?
      2. Odysseus
        Odysseus 9 November 2016 12: 23
        +2
        Quote: svp67
        able to influence in a situation where everyone has already decided for him what is better for him and how he should vote.

        Well, no illusions. Trump is a billionaire, not a socialist. Behind him are the most powerful clans of corporations, primarily the military-industrial complex and old-industrial groups.
        But another thing is that Clinton’s clan-corporate support was much more powerful. And so Trump’s victory is really amazing.
        It turns out that financiers do not yet manage everything even within the capital system.
  31. Skeptic Self-Taught
    Skeptic Self-Taught 9 November 2016 11: 29
    +1
    The show is mast go!
    Trump, judging by your comments kirdyk in the near future :)
    Hehe ...
    They chose in the USA - just like after the death of Leonid Ilyich - one older than the other ...
    They generally need to reserve places in the cemetery ...
    Now I wang: NOTHING in US foreign policy will change ...
    Unless Trump may not be given a Nobel ...
  32. masiya
    masiya 9 November 2016 11: 35
    +8
    Two leaders of the cool ...
  33. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 9 November 2016 11: 40
    +2
    With the choice that was, of course, Trump is preferable. And whether he will be good outside of debates and rallies - let’s see.
  34. Stas57
    Stas57 9 November 2016 11: 43
    +1

    http://i.imgur.com/DbpK4P1.gif
    Well that's all...
  35. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 9 November 2016 11: 49
    +2
    There’s a lot of joyful things. You should be happy and say GOP before you jump over. Saxon-Saxons are smeared with one world. For us whoever comes, it’s an enemy anyway. The Trumps and Clintons rule the world, but the Rockefells and Rothschilds and their comrades. And the staff The military-industrial complex, despite all the ups and downs, always felt very good. Priorities are changing somewhat, but the rotten essence of the world remains in place. And instead of Trampushka, as one gentleman said, there will be a lot of bad words. Which ones you yourself know.
  36. Standard
    Standard 9 November 2016 11: 55
    0
    Well, now let's see how prudent we are - is President Trump so good?
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  38. stopkran
    stopkran 9 November 2016 12: 03
    +1
    “That's nice, TRAM-Pam-pam.”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1mJfu4lUpU
  39. gg.na
    gg.na 9 November 2016 12: 03
    +2
    How is derm-o-oh in RUSSIA repeat Democrats and liberals dreamed that Clintonsha-Bastind would win wassat hee hee hee lol and here taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa laughing gee-gee-gee-gigygygygyy !!!! wassat all kinds of drandins there wassat and other geeks from the same watering can bully . Span of bastindas in the elections, the complete defeat of democrats-zamoryshchikh well, and in RUSSIA to them all the more krants !!! PEOPLE such as our prominent Political Scientists (with capital letters Political Scientists) Sergey Mikheev (who is even ready to go to a real hand-to-hand fight) (Sergey, not one of these degenerate nits of your gags and cuffs is worth your word !!! good ) Evgeny Satanovsky, Kurginyan and others will simply strangle these same five-five-year-old representatives of liberalism! With all due respect to you hi !!!
  40. Stinger
    Stinger 9 November 2016 12: 04
    0
    Good slap in the face comrade To Obama.
  41. gg.na
    gg.na 9 November 2016 12: 13
    0
    Strongly written by Oleg good as always I put an article + !!!
  42. Odysseus
    Odysseus 9 November 2016 12: 17
    +1
    Congratulations to all! I almost ate my hat in surprise. Clinton was confident of victory, although Trump part of the military-industrial complex, old industrial clans and part of the energy business (and of course the majority of Americans), but Clinton was the Jewish clan (and this is finance, the media, mass culture), the CIA, the state administration.
    But all the more pleasant, thank God, they are not yet omnipotent.
    For Russia, this is a respite. In the current situation (unlike 1917), the principle can hardly be applied - the worse the better.
  43. libivs
    libivs 9 November 2016 12: 18
    +1
    But for some reason I’m not at all happy about Trump’s victory. No, he is attractive in many political respects, and if I were a US citizen I would vote for him. But I am a citizen of Russia and it seems to me that a witch would be much more useful to us with her fierce bitchiness, stubborn stubbornness and revenge. In this case, it would have really come to our camarilla that Clintonsha’s hands are inexorably reaching for their necks and that some of them inevitably have a cozy cell in The Hague. And therefore, if one didn’t like it, one would have to change something and move from peppy words to deeds in order to protect oneself loved ones. However, it is too early to indulge, Trump is also not a gift and will not deal with the drain of American foreign policy successes (yes, yes, it is successes, no matter how much hesitates, but Ukraine and the Middle Eastern cesspool are certainly their successes, which provided real potential crap for all potential competitors) without serious reasons. There are no prerequisites for the appearance of these reasons, and perhaps it is not expected.
  44. Uralets
    Uralets 9 November 2016 12: 20
    +2
    It’s too early to celebrate, I think. The so-called electoral process is not over yet. And the inauguration will generally be on January 20, that is, more than 2 months. And during this time, much more can happen. Electors vote on December 19, and it is not known there (there were cases that electors generally voted for another candidate).
    1. Skeptic Self-Taught
      Skeptic Self-Taught 9 November 2016 13: 01
      0
      You give US elections in three stages, as for Yusch!
    2. antivirus
      antivirus 9 November 2016 22: 21
      0
      Life goes on
      Antivirus Today, 22: 13 New
      I marvel at our talking heads - "Trump's victory - the victory of us all - and the defeat of the Outskirts"
      FATES OF RUSSIA ARE DECIDED BY VANKA AND RAVIL AFTER CHANGE. IN THE LOCKER ROOM OF THE ASSEMBLY PRODUCTION OF UAZ.
      All the rest are errand service for UAZ collectors (for any income)
      For Vanka and Ravil, nothing has changed, but you can only change it with your own labor
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  45. EDDI 76
    EDDI 76 9 November 2016 12: 35
    0
    for nigger too happy, but he was a rare creature
    although if the troubled Texas voted for the trump it is strong.
    for me trump is better than hysterical Clinton with huge horns
  46. antivirus
    antivirus 9 November 2016 12: 37
    0
    they will still press us: to build roads, to repair schools, and to write poetry will be more difficult.
    We are back to INDEPENDENT foreign policy.
    "Bend your line ..."
  47. Tamanskiy
    Tamanskiy 9 November 2016 12: 44
    0
    Something I can't believe that the oval office will be allowed "outside the system", no matter how they bang it, like Kennedy ...
  48. Mestny
    Mestny 9 November 2016 12: 55
    -1
    Quote: Reptiloid
    Interestingly, will they give him a prize right away too?

    No.
    First you need to make a feat of whatever kind - to bomb the country in the Stone Age, destroy a couple of million people, hang anyone.
    Then they will give a peace prize.
    It's not us savages. They civilized just the way it happens.
  49. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 9 November 2016 13: 05
    0
    Well, this choice, if not more acceptable, then perhaps less painfully affect relations with the Russian Federation! In general, everyone remembers 2 situations: relations after a downed plane and relations after a prevented coup in one famous country. Relations have changed. We will see.
  50. Londa
    Londa 9 November 2016 13: 18
    +1
    Of the two evils, as they say, they choose the lesser, so let Trump than this old senile. Anyway, I do not expect anything good from them ....