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Maria Zakharova answered Poroshenko to his "claim" about the monument to Prince Vladimir

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During his visit to Slovenia, President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko reflexed about the installation of a monument to Prince Vladimir in the center of Moscow. He called the prince “our (ours), Ukrainian” and brought accusations against Moscow.


Maria Zakharova answered Poroshenko to his "claim" about the monument to Prince Vladimir


According to Poroshenko, Russia "is attempting a hybrid assignment stories". “Hybrid warfare” from Poroshenko was often heard, “hybrid appropriation” - for the first time. What else of the “hybrid” will be composed by the Maidan owner of hundreds of companies, including such a “hybrid” “Roshen”, that it can work profitably even on the territory of the “aggressor” ...

Poroshenko decided to respond to the tirade by the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova. She commented on the words of the Ukrainian president on her page in Facebook. Here is a comment by Maria Zakharova:

Poroshenko: "These days, another monument is opened: in the Kremlin, near the unburied Vladimir Lenin, they opened a monument to our First Apostolic Prince Vladimir of Kiev. This is another attempt at a hybrid appropriation of history."

The hybrid appropriation of history is at every corner for the last two years shouting that Ukraine is at the forefront of the creation of the UN and from the first day of its work in 1945, while still in the USSR, the Ukrainian delegation took an active part in shaping the Organization, and in parallel with this in 2014, in Kiev demolished a monument to Dmitry Manuilsky - the first representative of Ukraine to the UN. And this is only one of thousands of examples of "hybrid consciousness".


And this is Maria Zakharova who did not remind Poroshenko of other facts of “historical hybridization” in Ukraine — Poroshenko’s bows to the victims of the Volyn massacre and the signing of a decree on renaming prospectuses, streets and squares in honor of the thugs from the OUN-UPA (banned in the Russian Federation).
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 9 November 2016 07: 00
    +17
    "What else" hybrid "the owner of a hundred companies will create in Maidan"

    A "hybrid brain" is when two hemispheres are mutually independent.
    1. spech
      spech 9 November 2016 07: 22
      +4
      Before Cueva, Prince Vladimir ruled Nizhny Novgorod for 18 years fool
      1. andj61
        andj61 9 November 2016 08: 03
        +20
        Quote: spech
        Before Cueva, Prince Vladimir ruled Nizhny Novgorod for 18 years fool

        Only not Nizhny Novgorod, but Great. repeat
        However, at that time this city was simply called Novgorod. And when you consider that Vladimir’s grandfather Igor, along with his guardian Oleg, also came from Novgorod, everything immediately becomes clear. bully True, such a name as "Ukrainians" in the present sense appeared only in the 19th century. Earlier, however, it also existed, but it denoted the Polish gentry, which had estates in present-day Ukraine.
        1. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ 9 November 2016 10: 33
          +3
          Quote: Vladimirets
          A "hybrid brain" is when two hemispheres are mutually independent.

          ))) No, a hybrid brain is when brains have a unique opportunity to flow from head to ass.
      2. dik-nsk
        dik-nsk 9 November 2016 08: 25
        +5
        Before Cueva, Prince Vladimir ruled Nizhny Novgorod for 18 years

        shh! you just don’t say it to Pete, otherwise there will be an explosion of the hybrid brain, it turns out Prince Vladimir ... (oh, horror!) - the aggressor from Novgorod laughing
        1. Giant thought
          Giant thought 9 November 2016 08: 57
          +3
          Well done, Zakharova said she had cut it off, and this piglet should be talked about because nothing normal can appear in his drenched brains by definition.
        2. Ulan
          Ulan 10 November 2016 19: 12
          0
          Well, it was Novgorod prince Oleg who ate to look at history, drove Askold and Dir from Kiev and made Kiev the capital of united Russia. This is the mother of Russian cities. That is, it was Novgorod that united medieval Russia.
      3. nod739
        nod739 9 November 2016 09: 45
        +1
        in Great !!
        There was no bottom then !!
        1. Ulan
          Ulan 10 November 2016 19: 13
          0
          Of course the Great. All the princes who sat on the Kiev table before that reigned in Novgorod.
      4. Monarchist
        Monarchist 9 November 2016 16: 06
        0
        This cannot be, because, together with ancient prices, he dug the sea
      5. siberalt
        siberalt 10 November 2016 13: 53
        0
        They say that his housekeeper is a Jewess from a Novgorod prince. So they sent him to Kuev to reign. It was he who "directed" there that the Lybed River dried up from human blood and became Khreshchatyk. As for his monument in Moscow, they also installed the reformer - the murderer Gaidar. And they will find a place for the red-haired Tolik.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 9 November 2016 07: 38
      +5
      I think that they have no brain, neither hybrid nor simple .. Yes, and why do they need a brain, freeloaders? They should all be around and there is no need to strain the hemispheres.
      1. nod739
        nod739 9 November 2016 09: 46
        0
        there’s one cell in my head, and even that one is rare !! (with)
    3. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 9 November 2016 07: 57
      +4
      Quote: Vladimirets
      A "hybrid brain" is when two hemispheres are mutually independent.

      It seems to me that, in addition, neither the left nor the right is working. Either they are being fumigated with something there, or they are spraying from airplanes .... Ukraine has completely gone mad ....
    4. Evil543
      Evil543 9 November 2016 08: 12
      +2
      He himself is a wine-chocolate hybrid with a lack of brain
    5. Kondratko
      Kondratko 9 November 2016 13: 05
      +1
      "A" hybrid brain "is when the two hemispheres are mutually independent."
      ... and both are below the lower back.
    6. Ulan
      Ulan 10 November 2016 19: 09
      0
      This is a virgin brain.
  2. wandlitz
    wandlitz 9 November 2016 07: 01
    +10
    According to some politicians Krajina and CHRISTOS is Ukrainian. We should expect a protest to the Russian Orthodox Church for the use of icons with the face of Christ ..... So, that a claim for Prince Vladimir is a flower ....
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 9 November 2016 07: 59
      +3
      Quote: wandlitz
      According to some politicians Krajina and CHRISTOS is Ukrainian.

      I remember that under Dudayev, Chechen scholars (already funny!) Proved that Adam and Eve were Chechens ..... laughing laughing
      1. AUL
        AUL 9 November 2016 20: 35
        0
        I remember that under Dudaev Chechen scholars (already funny!) Proved that Adam and Eve were Chechens ..... laughing laughing

        But what for them, they are Muslims?
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 9 November 2016 08: 10
      +1
      Quote: wandlitz
      According to some politicians Krajina and CHRISTOS is Ukrainian. We should expect a protest to the Russian Orthodox Church for the use of icons with the face of Christ ..... So, that a claim for Prince Vladimir is a flower ...

      Jesus ”is the Greek version of the common Hebrew name“ Yeshua ”(“ Joshua ”), which means“ God help / salvation ”. “Christ” is the translation into Greek of the Aramaic word “meshia” (the messiah, that is, “the anointed one”).
      Correctly! One kind of tribe. Christians - sorry for blasphemy.
    3. Lukich
      Lukich 9 November 2016 08: 44
      +1
      Quote: wandlitz
      According to some politicians Krajina and CHRISTOS is Ukrainian

      and this is already an impudent run over Georgia. those back in 2007 "proved" that Christ was a Georgian. that's why sobakashvili was in urkaina
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    4. Ulan
      Ulan 10 November 2016 19: 17
      0
      Of course, he is not from Galilee (Galilean), but from Galicia - Galician. So it turns out purely Svidomo Ukrainian.
      And Christopher Columbus in general from under the city of Sumy is definitely "proved" by Svidomo "historians". There is such a Bebik, read it, Zoshchenko is resting.
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 9 November 2016 07: 02
    +7
    That's right MARIA ... the main thing is not to be silent typing water in your mouth ...
    Maria, a diplomat, what is needed ... she doesn’t give any information warriors a descent ... an active girl protects her country from insults, unlike MGIMO students (a disgrace for this organization ... pah) like Bazhaeva.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 9 November 2016 07: 02
    +4
    Russia "makes an attempt at a hybrid appropriation of history"

    Interestingly, this is a miracle, which even the Jews do not recognize as their fellow tribesman, understood what he himself said? Unlikely. But the main thing is to say the word "hybrid". Obviously, when he took the oath of office, the president hit him on the head with a club, which by that time did not perceive anything other than business.
    1. BecmepH
      BecmepH 9 November 2016 10: 15
      +2
      understood what he said?
      The main thing they understand with each other Klitschko
  5. Aleksander
    Aleksander 9 November 2016 07: 08
    +12
    Prince Vladimir-Novgorod Prince, who conquered Kiev. And where does Ukraine?
    1. Smog
      Smog 9 November 2016 07: 23
      +8
      But her hell, Ukraine, knows. She was not there then. Kiev was, Ukraine was not.
      And Petka probably took something hybrid again on his chest, and he blurted out.
      Say something right. Here it is bursting.
      1. ltc22A
        ltc22A 9 November 2016 09: 40
        +3
        Quote: Smog
        And Petka probably took something hybrid again on his chest, and he blurted out.

        Hybrid vodka (recipe terrible secret wink ): a mixture of beet moonshine with the cheapest American whiskey, infused with dill grown in the Chernobyl zone. Eat with "hybrid" bacon (from a hybrid of a Zapadenskaya pig with a Georgian sheep), drink it down only CocaCola and nothing else.
      2. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 9 November 2016 11: 18
        +2
        Quote: Smog
        And Petka probably took something hybrid again on his chest, and he blurted out.

        it looks like it is. Sculpts to place and out of place "hybrid", "hybrid", etc. without even understanding the meaning of this word (term).
    2. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 9 November 2016 08: 11
      +1
      Quote: Aleksander
      Prince Vladimir-Novgorod Prince, who conquered Kiev. And where does Ukraine?

      And besides, apparently, the ancient ukrov, who lived in Kiev, once again bent over m'oskali.
    3. BARKAS
      BARKAS 9 November 2016 08: 15
      +4
      Vladimir is the first invader in Ukraine but svidomye do not know about it yet laughing
      1. andj61
        andj61 9 November 2016 08: 42
        +1
        Quote: BARKAS
        Vladimir is the first invader in Ukraine but svidomye do not know about it yet laughing

        Then the first was Oleg, who put grandfather Vladimir Igor in Kiev! bully
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 10 November 2016 14: 31
      0
      Ukraine has nothing to do with it. Even if we assume that there was Kievan Rus, then the governing word is Russia. Well, if Ukrainians like their own thing better, then let them call it Russian Kuyevschina. But will it make it easier? laughing
  6. Comrade Stalin
    Comrade Stalin 9 November 2016 07: 19
    +1
    Doubleell in Orwellian.
  7. 1536
    1536 9 November 2016 07: 22
    +2
    Here is a hybrid! My father also told me that hybrids are the most unpredictable and harmful people, offended by God! They must be feared and not deal with them!
  8. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 9 November 2016 07: 23
    +1
    Your story is only that after going to the toilet remains.
  9. brasist
    brasist 9 November 2016 07: 24
    +1
    This is what the "squirrels" are bringing completely to be friends with their heads, just to blurt out something ... wassat
  10. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 9 November 2016 07: 31
    +3
    The prince he called "our (his), at
    Come and take tongue )))
    P.S. What is "Vashim"? K. Vladimir did not integrate into Olropa and did not wander around the Americas with an outstretched hand.
  11. alex-cn
    alex-cn 9 November 2016 07: 33
    +1
    There is an old rule "Don't mess with go.o.there." Maybe it applies to this case too ....
  12. Senior manager
    Senior manager 9 November 2016 07: 33
    +1
    An interesting combination is Svidomo Jew, and here hybridity can be traced. This is the root of all Valtsman's fantasies.
  13. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 9 November 2016 07: 38
    +3
    I would be in that case
    On behalf of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs, I sent a schedule for the Kiev narcologists and psychiatrists to the little woman.
  14. K-50
    K-50 9 November 2016 07: 45
    +5
    Well, if we assume that Kiev is the mother of Russian cities, Prince Vladimir is the Russian prince, then what is Ukraine doing in the Russian city? Occupants !!!!! Atu them !!!!! laughing
    1. Retvizan
      Retvizan 9 November 2016 11: 44
      0
      Quote: K-50
      Well, if we assume that Kiev is the mother of Russian cities, Prince Vladimir is the Russian prince, then what is Ukraine doing in the Russian city? Occupants !!!!! Atu them !!!!! laughing

      Well, if you bet something Russian, and in Ukraine they specifically specify that this is about us. And Ukraine Russia and so on. So early to pack your bags smile
  15. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 9 November 2016 07: 56
    0
    Along the way, Poroshenko has arrogated to himself the exclusive right to write and rewrite pages of history, decide where, what and who can, and where and who cannot. Less and less difference between him and Adolf. Mania of greatness is a disease.
  16. Amurets
    Amurets 9 November 2016 08: 01
    0
    During his visit to Slovenia, President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko reflexed about the installation of a monument to Prince Vladimir in the center of Moscow. He called the prince “our (ours), Ukrainian” and brought accusations against Moscow.

    So what's the question? Give an order to "Chief Apostle Prince Vladimir" to bless "with a Mace in inert equipment, the residence of Prince Peter." Maybe from fear to drink and nonsense will cease?
  17. demotivator
    demotivator 9 November 2016 08: 03
    +12
    Poroshenko accused Russia of "hybrid appropriation of history." And it happened in the city of Ljubljana, where he took part in the opening of a monument to the XNUMXth century philosopher Grigory Skovoroda. For some reason, he is considered a "Ukrainian philosopher", although he wrote in Russian, sometimes in Latin or in Greek.
    Yes, and that Frying Pan lived for a year on Rosa Luxemburg Street (previously it was called differently) in Taganrog. And what, now he is a great philosopher from Taganrog? So in that Taganrog and Garibaldi he lived for seven whole years in Italian Lane - and now he, it must be understood, the philistine philistine who liberated Italy? By the way, the separatist and the Russian mercenary, quilted jacket almost ... I think that in Ljubljana they would have appreciated how the former Austria-Hungary.
    However, the new term "hybrid history" invented by Poroshenko after "hybrid war" looks much more mysterious. We have already got used to war a little, we are at war here, we trade there. His confectionery factories in Russia regularly replenish his personal dollar account, but at the same time Russia is the main enemy of Ukraine. In general, something to find fault with monuments? Marx and Engels were not in Moscow either, but there are monuments to them. But Poroshenko is right - we really have a hybrid history, and our entire culture is hybrid. You will try to separate the Ukrainian history from the Russian one, but it will not work. Culture also fails. If only Vladimir is a prince, of course, of Kiev, but from the Novgorod dynasty he himself began to reign in Novgorod. And Moscow was founded by his great-grandson. And he was baptized in Chersonesos, which is now Sevastopol - the Russian Federation, and before that it was Ukraine, and before that - the RSFSR ... But even if Poroshenko himself is taken, he will be in a position like the Kiev prince - he himself seems to be waging a hybrid war with Russia, and his confectionery factory in Lipetsk. And how can you separate Poroshenko from his factory? No separatism will definitely work here.
  18. sgr291158
    sgr291158 9 November 2016 08: 04
    0
    Petka has serious headaches.
  19. BOB044
    BOB044 9 November 2016 08: 16
    0
    I completely agree with Maria Zakharova. And how difficult it is for her to overeat with such patients wholeheartedly.
  20. vladimirw
    vladimirw 9 November 2016 08: 37
    0
    the piglet completely lost its hybrid head-evrohokhlyatskaya!
  21. Fotoceva62
    Fotoceva62 9 November 2016 08: 52
    +4
    Is it worth it to comment on this crank in the letter M? The dog barks, the caravan goes ...
  22. loginovich
    loginovich 9 November 2016 08: 54
    0
    And it is Maria Zakharov that did not remind Poroshenko of other facts of "historical hybridization" in Ukraine - Poroshenko's bows to the victims of the Volyn massacre and the signing of a decree on renaming avenues, streets and squares in honor of the thugs from the OUN-UPA.
    But this is alarming.
    1. shurik
      shurik 9 November 2016 09: 33
      0
      Wary of bowing or Zakharov? laughing
  23. shurik
    shurik 9 November 2016 09: 31
    +1
    What else can you expect from a hybrid head in a semi-hydride country?
  24. GEV67
    GEV67 9 November 2016 09: 53
    +2
    It would be better to erect a monument to the First Russian Tsar, Grand Duke of Moscow and All Russia Ivan the Terrible (Ivan IV Vasilievich)! He has a direct relationship with Moscow. A truly great person who has done a lot for the Russian state.
    I am sure that attacks of the type he is wearing like this will start now, but for me he is a hundred times more significant than Vladimir.
  25. cannabis
    cannabis 9 November 2016 09: 57
    +1
    Moscow is a world reserve of monuments. Monuments for every taste and every political and religious faith. Minin and Pozharsky and Tsar Peter the First, the crusader Vladimir and the communist mummy in the mausoleum, Tsar Alexander 2 and the clown Nikulin, the singer Vysotsky and the composer Tchaikovsky. There was a monument to Dzerzhinsky, but for some reason it was removed. What a fake history we have. It means that special forces soldier Lermontov can be erected as a monument, but not for Lenin's comrade. Again, in Moscow there is not a single monument to either Stalin or Nicholas 2. This is also a hybrid "history".
  26. SPACE
    SPACE 9 November 2016 10: 04
    0
    According to Poroshenko, Russia "is attempting a hybrid appropriation of history." The "hybrid war" from Poroshenko heard often, the "hybrid appropriation"

    Judging by his words, he understood the hint)) At the opening of the monument to Prince Vladimir in Moscow, perhaps there is a certain message or reminder to Ukraine, now the hybrid has been taken away history, tomorrow the territory will be hybrid taken away.
  27. Bogranz
    Bogranz 9 November 2016 10: 24
    +1
    Well, we already know how they relate to their monument to Prince Vladimir in Ukraine.
  28. volot-voin
    volot-voin 9 November 2016 10: 49
    +1
    If you look at There were Rus (stories), then UK-Rs should hate the Rurikovich as damned m-os-ka-lei laughing Especially Oleg, who united the lands, and delivered Russia from the then separatists living under the leadership of Askold. Especially considering that Rurik and Co. were the rulers of Slavensk (Novgorod) the Great and the northern lands.
  29. Retvizan
    Retvizan 9 November 2016 11: 54
    0
    Poroshenko is doing everything wrong. I would gladly recall Mannerheim and other “whites”. And I would have answered Bandera with Vlasov and others ..
    As for Zakharova, she too often arranges "Facebook battles" and does not paint her. That still talking head of partners from Moscow. the monument to Manuilsky was knocked down unofficially. It is incorrect to blame the Kiev partner, though on Facebook you can.
    And now on the topic. We have a common history and we share it in every way. Kiev and Moscow share it very roughly.
    Even here on the website there is a version that we are not there and we have a plan of the Austrians, Bolsheviks, Martians and others, and in general we are some kind of Little Russians (we were them for a short time, after all, they have long been gone), in general, wet fantasies and generally we are gone.
    All immigrants from Ukraine (or Ukrainian lands) are
    -If they are good, then OURS (Russian or Soviet) - in general, we do not have the right to apply for them.
    - If bad. That is exclusively Ukrainian! And here the opinion that we are not there, we are Russian there and all these heroes are yours like ours (general_ do not channel smile
    Assign so assign! Korolev Soviet? Not Ukrainian? So Bandera is also Soviet (it’s all the same that his Old Ugrinov was not Soviet at first, for which he did not receive the Hero of Ukraine) Shukhevych is also our common (also did not receive the Hero because of a similar one)
    In general, if Ukraine was invented, then it is necessary to recognize all its good and bad people as their own!
    And then we share Vladimir the Great - for some reason, Bandera is exclusively Ukrainian smile
    And then on the principle of the Wedding in Robin ... me, you, me, me again ..
    PS I can admit, the example with Bandera because of land ownership is still not entirely correct - but the essence is the same.
    1. andj61
      andj61 9 November 2016 13: 00
      +1
      Quote: Retvizan
      Assign so assign! Korolev Soviet? Not Ukrainian? So Bandera is also Soviet

      And what, Bandera was a citizen of the USSR? He lived in Poland, in Poland! So, by your logic, he is a Pole. And, accordingly, we should not recognize him as ours, but the Poles!
      And in response to your quirks - and Ukraine was created within the current borders within the USSR - Lenin insisted on this, it was for Ukraine that they "cut" the lands of the Great Don Army and not only, this is for the sake of joining the Westerners - of course, their own people! - Stalin agreed with Hitler. Well, at the same time, and pushed the border.
      Quote: Retvizan
      I can admit, the example with Bandera because of land ownership is still not entirely correct - but the essence is the same.

      Personally, I consider the whole of Ukraine to be ours, though without Galicia - there are still people of a completely different mentality. If all Russia will be in solidarity with me, do you think your throats will feel better about it? wink
  30. Bully
    Bully 9 November 2016 13: 04
    0
    The presence of the chief Russian rabbi Berl Lazar at the opening of the monument is very significant.
  31. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 9 November 2016 13: 55
    0
    The correct person is Maria !!! - Why didn’t you call a fool a fool? after all, this drunk in six months may declare that Novgorod was the second capital of dill. What does not come across, for the sake of the IMF tranche.
  32. Demeter
    Demeter 9 November 2016 14: 52
    0
    Ukrainian in Ukraine only vodka
  33. Varaga
    Varaga 9 November 2016 16: 08
    +1
    Yes, what to react to it. Freak. Both moral and physical. Dop.ditsya left without sweets from the Lipetsk region.
  34. Orionvit
    Orionvit 10 November 2016 07: 22
    0
    Quote: AUL
    I remember that under Dudaev Chechen scholars (already funny!) Proved that Adam and Eve were Chechens ..... laughing laughing

    But what for them, they are Muslims?

    Islam is a Bible transfixed by Muhammad. All Jewish prophets and Christ are honored there. The most paradoxical thing is that Muslims agree that both Jews, Christians, and Muslims have one god.