Serious malfunction found in Black Panther tanks.

South Korean authorities once again delayed the launch of mass production of its tank K2 "Black Panther". The Ministry of Defense will conduct independent tests of this new combat vehicle, in which problems are found in the transmission and in the engine.

Tank K 2 "Black Panther" was created by South Korean company "Hyundai Rotem". Manufacturers of this combat vehicle is advertised as the most advanced battle tank in the world. Independent experts are not inclined to speak of him this way, as they believe that the Black Panther does not have something new and breakthrough. The 2 was first demonstrated in the 2007 year. The crew of the 2 consists of a 3 man. The main armament of this tank is 120-mm gun. The machine is equipped with modern electronics, has an active protection system and charging system. It is planned that the Black Panther will replace the K 1 and M 48 Patton vehicles, which form the basis of the South Korean tank units. Seoul has high hopes for K 2, including plans to export it abroad, but still postpones the mass production of the machine in his country.

The decision to once again postpone for some time the mass production of the company "Hyundai Rotem" reported the South Korean Defense Procurement Agency. The reason for this intention is the desire of the military to conduct independent tests, which will have to pass in 2014 year. According to independent experts, the mass production of the machine will start no earlier than 2015 of the year, since the testing process reveals flaws.
According to an employee of the Defense Procurement Agency, the military want to see how the car will behave in the 3200 km process of running tests and firing. To this end, 15 Black Panther 2 machines will be transferred to the ground forces.

Last year, AOZ wanted to give permission for the production of 600 machines, but then two times postponed the launch of the conveyor. The problems that were found in the transmission and engine, are not satisfied with the Ministry of Defense. Until now, these problems have not been eliminated, therefore, AOZ is considering two options: to troubleshoot or install a powerful German propulsion system (1500 horsepower). In addition, the Defense Procurement Agency reduced the order to 297.

According to the military, testing is also necessary because the manufacturer showed only “ceremonial samples”, which were assembled under special control on a special conveyor. The military does not know how tanks will behave, which will be assembled on a regular line. According to tank officers, new tests in the future will save time and great financial losses.

Comments

[Joker]

Would buy better T-90AM ..

[Mr. tank]

Quote: Joker

Would buy better T-90AM ..

Is that better?

[Joker]

Quote: Mr. Tank

Is that better?

- in my personal opinion, at the moment the best in the world, in terms of performance characteristics.

[Mr. tank]

Quote: Joker

- in my personal opinion,

And what does it mean?

[Gurza]

Say hi to the strategic reserve!

[Mr. tank]

Quote: Mr. Tank

Would buy better T-90AM ..
Is that better?

So far, the T-90 and K1 lost to the Oplot tank in Thailand.

[mengeleff]

lost to Oplot

The stronghold here alone is you Mr. Tank and that stronghold of senility as a product sample resulting from the mating of Bandera’s Corpse and not yet of Liebich’s corpse followed by gene mutation due to radioactive contamination In the area of ​​the experiment on mating Bandera and Liebich
are you acting as a tank and the fruit of an experiment on common sense on behalf of both parents?

[Sergh]

mengeleff and don’t say, the posters have been stuck, you’re speaking in a nutshell about the Bozar with a question-answer, like, yes or no. Che, have a drink @ there’s no place or nowhere?

[UAZ Patriot]

PASHOL ON KUI U4ODISHCHE !!! I WAIT FOR WAR AND YOU WILL BE MY FIRST VICTIM!

[Kyrgyz]

UK cannot buy T90 they are US half-colonies

[vasek-3180]

BLACK PANTHER! shoes, and why not a blue acecelot?

[LiRoy]

Asians guys are persistent and learn fast. It is evident that they want to secure their economic successes as quickly as possible with military potential, therefore they cannot be written off from the accounts.

[12061973]

the NATO tank is similar to a leopard, they don’t need a t-90, a reputable Hyundai company.

maybe we will buy it as cars.

[Mr. tank]

Quote: 12061973

NATO tank looks like a leopard,

not simular

Quote: 12061973

They do not need the t-90, Hyundai is a reputable company.

Hyundai is a car, UVZ is cars.

Quote: 12061973

maybe we will buy it as cars.

Ships are already being bought ...

[12061973]

if there is money, why not, you can’t forbid to live beautifully, NATO tanks look like each other.

[Lieutenant colonel]

And where are you facing the court? Or do you rivet yourself on your knee? What is your stronghold like? And esche - Hyundai is a complex of manufacturing enterprises, from the refrigerator to space technology. And the tank is really very similar to leopold.

[KASKAD]

Quote: 12061973

Quote: 12061973
NATO tank looks like a leopard,
not simular

Chassis and housing with M1A1 Abrams wake up !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stalker]

I read that the Abrams was taken as the basis for the design, and the loading system, perhaps, was copied from the T-80, which the Russian Federation transferred to the RK for debts.

[Mr. tank]

Quote: stalker

I read that the design was based on "Abrams"

Right.

Quote: stalker

from T-80 copied, which the Russian Federation transferred to Kazakhstan for debts.

No, there is another AZ. Own with its features.

[mengeleff]

No there is another

there is another one and here you are all the same dull and stupid
you probably commented on your own birth bl * i will not be mistaken if I say that you previously prepared not only your obituary but also the last speech

[makano]

As the saying goes: - "Measure seven times - cut once." It turned out that the flaws were so serious that serial production was postponed for two years. Did the industrialists want to slip the raw product into the military out of unreason or for opportunistic reasons?

[tankovod]

makano,
To stupidly cut money for the subsequent modernization, hehe long-term planning

[Mr. tank]

Quote: tankovod

To stupidly cut money for the subsequent modernization, hehe long-term planning

They would be silent so that later in tantrums they won’t fight with the failure of the launch of Armata ...

[mengeleff]

Would be silent

write these words 100500 times so that you yourself would understand and go into yourself completely

[Mr. tank]

Quote: mengeleff

write these words 100500 times

At - GOZ foiled in the Russian Federation, and there are no modern weapons.

[Lieutenant colonel]

Yes, and bears walk the streets!

[KASKAD]

Quote: Mr. Tank

Quote: mengeleff
write these words 100500 times
At - GOZ foiled in the Russian Federation, and there are no modern weapons.

Quote: Lieutenant Colonel

Yes, and bears walk the streets!

You laugh in vain about the bears, he is right we have long been a third world country, and over the past 20 years the state defense order has never been executed 100%.
And Kudrin was absolutely right with defense spending, they are needed, of course, but not with a pension fund deficit of 1,3 trillion rubles, again, Medvedev's one-time purchases will end in 2020 and the military-industrial complex, who has just sensed life, will again release pots to stay afloat, from our the conquests the whole world are held by the old mine-based missiles RS-20A "Voyevoda", the last of which this year is removed from duty, since they have been there since 1975, and even 2 divisions of Yars remain from the nuclear potential, poplars cannot withstand Missile defense and they are more than 20 years old and their number is negligible, in the fleet the Granit missiles became obsolete as early as 90, not one Bulava is on the submarines.

So you don’t have to harbor illusions and tear a shirt on your chest and shout that we will defeat everyone, we must be realistically aware of what we are now.

[oleg-sochi68]

Cascade! Although we are disintegrating, but believe me, we will all the same defeat everyone, as usual. At one time I began to doubt it, and then I realized - we’ll defeat one hell !!!

[oleg-sochi68]

SOMETHING YOU ARE JOYFUL !?

[alatau_09]

... "sea trials at 3200 km ...."! How many times do you have to go around Korea around the perimeter? )))
But the car is serious, adapted to the mountains, etc., no one expected from the Koreans ...

[Mr. tank]

Quote: alatau_09

nobody expected from Koreans ...

Well, you need the same assessment ....

[mengeleff]

Well, you need the same assessment ....

well not hu * i'm all humor
and he laughed at how!

[oleg-sochi68]

Tank! You comment with such sarcasm that you involuntarily start to think - you are the main armor-piercer of the planet. Calm down And no one will be rude to you.

[suharev-52]

To discount Korea, I would not advise. The main thing is that they set themselves the goal of making their own tank. And in time they will do it. And how much time is needed for this, time will tell. There would be a desire, but the result will be.

[Mr. tank]

Quote: suharev - 52

The main thing is that they set themselves the goal of making their own tank.

Yes, they have K1.

Quote: suharev - 52

And how much time is needed for this, time will tell. There would be a desire, but the result will be.

Everything is always the same for everyone, everything will work out if there are no rude forgiveness. Given K1 - hard to believe in forgiveness.

[Lieutenant colonel]

Even faster than we think.

[oleg-sochi68]

He fucking unnecessary to them, by and large

[Nechai]

Quote: alatau_09

But the car is serious, adapted to the highlands, etc.

They have serious problems with the suspension and the entire chassis, and this adaptation caused ...
"... by Hyundai Rotem, this combat vehicle is advertised as the most advanced battle tank in the world" - but what about the implementation of the principle of "vision through armor"? They could have been honored. Especially in mountainous and wooded areas, it is oh, how vitally important.

[UI-Spb]

Here you have a country with a developed automotive industry, and the transmission and engine cannot be brought to mind. And our tanks ran, run and will run.

[Mr. tank]

Quote: UI-Spb

but the transmission and engine can’t be brought to mind. And our tanks ran, run and will run.

Not a good comparison. The engine of the B-2 family is out of date, the transmission is outdated of the 60s, there is no modern engine.
I forgot tell me who knows - he has a hydro-pneumatic chassis?

[755962]

Learn from mistakes. Think about it.

[Uhalus]

Outdated, outdated, but for now one of the most powerful and lightest in the world. In aggregate, if it’s not the best (I don’t know how it was for 2012, but for 2004 it was the best), then in the first three for sure.

[Lieutenant colonel]

Specifically, on which machines? On your stronghold, what is in terms of transmission? There is an engine, here you are overwhelmed.

[KASKAD]

Quote: Reserve lieutenant colonel

There is an engine, here you are overwhelmed.

what they have there is nothing better than shit than we have, you don’t be equal to a third world country with a destroyed industry, you should be equal to those whose potential is huge, for example, the German MTU or the American General Dainamik

[UI-Spb]

Quote: Mr. Tank

The engine of the B-2 family is out of date, the transmission is outdated of the 60s, there is no modern engine.

But it works !!!

[Lieutenant colonel]

You shouldn’t take it so, the world practice to take the best and set your own development of the road, on the Sanying (car) engine is Mersovsk - did the car become worse from this? And the auto industry is not quite suitable for tank building - there are different requirements for the operation of a power plant and transmission.
As an experienced tanker, I’ll say that they ran. running, etc. is very different from the actual operation in the army. For this reason, their MO requested additional resource tests. You can buy a tank for parades (and K2 is suitable in today's state) and calm down, but they need a real car. With the previous generation, they got (in terms of repair), and behave carefully.

[Freedom eagle]

Quote: Joker

Would buy better T-90AM ..

Do they need it? They bought T-80 a long time ago, why do they need another Russian tank, which also has not yet been adopted by the Russian army?

Quote: Joker

- in my personal opinion, at the moment the best in the world, in terms of performance characteristics.

Well, this is just your personal opinion based on advertising Murzilka and short videos.
The T-90AM tank has not yet completed the full range of tests, it has not been operated in the troops, it hasn’t been involved in combat operations, and therefore it is not the best in the world.

Quote: KASKAD

Chassis and housing with M1A1 Abrams wake up !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nothing like this! Neither the Panther's chassis nor the Panther's hull are close to the Abrams.

Quote: UI-Spb

transmission and engine can not bring to mind.

A transmission similar to that used on K2 in Russia was never created, an engine with a capacity of more than 1200 liters. with. failed to create.

Quote: Uhalus

one of the most powerful and lightest in the world.

You are mistaken however.

[oleg-sochi68]

And no one has yet written that Koreans, as in Abrams, add depleted uranium to their armor !?

[Victor]

Freedom eagle Hi Flapper. You again emerged from your Pindosnik to clog the communication of decent people? Conduct your analytical research where you live - i.e. in pindosia. And here we can figure it out without you, a bird of freedom like an alien eagle.

[Joker]

For Freedom Eagle:

Firstly, it's silly and cowardly to quote my post somewhere far away. If you want a dialogue, or just tell me something, answer there, though, not so often I completely review the topic.

Secondly, you are talking nonsense, I won’t even take it apart, there’s only one nonsense, the reasoned specifics are completely missing.

[Filin]

K-2, ALTAY, ARJUN

tanks from one row ... in terms of fabulous prices, hodgepodge of parts from different countries and the time spent on their creation.
They are also united by the total number of vehicles released.

For K-2, the plan is already 297 pieces (15 released). It has been developed for 17 years. And it is not known when they will be adopted. The machine is raw. The cost of $ 8.7 million.

For ARJUN, the plan was 2000 cars, but actually 45 cars were produced. The project term is 37 !!! years old. It has problems with the chassis. The cost of the tank is $ 8.02 million.

Tank ALTAY at 60% - will use K-2 technology. It is planned to build 2015 prototypes by 4. The cost will be even higher than that of the K-2. At this price, it is unlikely that a little more than a few hundred cars will be built.

All this speaks of a LITTLE one desire and money to build a modern tank. You need a serious industry, a tank building school, experience in building previous generations of tanks, etc.
But at such a price and such a quantity, these samples turn into ceremonial cars, like the F-22 aircraft.

[Owl]

Everything is the same everywhere, "ostentatious", the first samples of products delight with the quality and ease of use (use), and then, with mass production in-line, you start thinking: "who and how adopted this shit?"