Ukraine announced the creation of a new rocket complex

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Pavlograd Chemical Plant together with Yuzhnoye Design Bureau completed work on the creation of a new operational-tactical missile complex (OTRK) "Grom", reports MIC with reference to the Ukrainian service of Radio Liberty.





As the general director of the Pavlograd plant, Leonid Shiman, stated, “the work on the creation of the OTRK“ Thunder ”has been fully completed and is currently being prepared for its testing.”

"Starting from 2013, we, together with Yuzhnoye Design Bureau, without requesting financial support from the state, decided to create an operational-tactical complex" Thunder "with a firing range greater than that of Sapsan, for its further export," he said to reporters.

According to Schiman, "the ballistic and cruise missiles of the complex have a range of 280 kilometers, while it can be increased to 500 kilometers."

The publication reminds that the development of the Sapsan OTRK is being conducted in Ukraine from 2006. In 2013, the project was closed "due to inefficient use of budget funds", but at the beginning of this year Poroshenko said that the development of the complex would continue; highlighted.

Ukraine announced the creation of a new rocket complex


Shiman noted that the company already has an order from a foreign buyer (according to unofficial data, from Saudi Arabia) for several Gromov. It is possible that an order from the Ukrainian military department will soon arrive.

“In the light of recent events, it became possible to use our scientific and technical potential to create new types of weapons associated with operational tactical missiles. This weapon allows you to prevent an attack from the aggressor from abroad, striking any man-made objects that are located, including in its territory. Since September, we actively continue to work, fill the engines so that in December they will go to the bench and flight tests ", - said the general director.
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  1. +7
    6 November 2016 13: 31
    He looked, yes, yes, a garbage truck. But it will shoot and the rocket will fall. Something vaguely, I suspect the comrades from China in financing this zrad. Money from them, and technology 50 years ago ...
    1. 0
      6 November 2016 13: 39
      Shiman noted that the company already has an order from a foreign buyer (according to unofficial data, from Saudi Arabia)

      - That is, from the Islamic militants. sad
      1. +2
        6 November 2016 13: 50
        This opus didn’t even pass the test, so the volunteers again run ahead of the engine.
        1. +17
          6 November 2016 14: 59
          site VO, to disgust began to resemble a "censor" .. you-threshing floor! Yes, you yourself, threshing floor! ... what a pity ... the site was head and shoulders above ... the moderators "execute" on a whim, and when necessary, they sleep, just horror is happening on the site ... but as in the country.
          1. +10
            6 November 2016 15: 25
            before and the trees were big. Here in 5 years the composition of the regulars has changed 3 times. I don’t remember who anymore, only one professor remained. And what stories were in the comments before, you’ll download! And the minuses were removed, the community cannot regulate its composition, it's bad.
            1. 0
              12 November 2016 09: 47
              kirieeleyson November 6, 2016 15:25 p.m.
              And the minuses were removed, the community cannot regulate its composition, it's bad.
              Not to hell with himself, he will decide with whom to communicate! No, senior comrades will correct you and you will be friends with Petya or one, two, three.
          2. +2
            6 November 2016 15: 44
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            site VO, to disgust began to resemble a "censor" .. you-threshing floor! Yes, you yourself, threshing floor! ... what a pity ... the site was head and shoulders above ... the moderators "execute" on a whim, and when necessary, they sleep, just horror is happening on the site ... but as in the country.

            You whined this with your whining ..! So get .... wassat
            1. +5
              6 November 2016 17: 05
              Vitalik ... I will not stoop to insults, you already had a heart attack ... but, you would be silent ... You, the Character known to the whole site ... moreover, comedic ...
          3. +3
            6 November 2016 18: 39
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            site VO, to disgust began to resemble a "censor" .. you-threshing floor! Yes, you yourself, threshing floor! ... what a pity ... the site was head and shoulders above ... the moderators "execute" on a whim, and when necessary, they sleep, just horror is happening on the site ... but as in the country.

            Here in a parallel thread, an article was about converting Marders into a medium tank. I ran through the comments, so it's 90% flood. There is not even a desire to print something, - the "censor" nervously smokes on the sidelines))
    2. +3
      6 November 2016 15: 55
      Ukraine is already full of complexes, so what? To create new ones or get rid of old ones, that is the question. For example, "warthogs" have their own problems ..
      1. +2
        6 November 2016 15: 59
        What a terrible crest. Poor ...
        1. +3
          6 November 2016 20: 17
          For whom a hohlushka, and for whom the best political scientist is independent - Vadim Karasev. laughing
          And what to do, they have such time.
    3. 0
      6 November 2016 16: 14
      Ukraine announced the creation of a new rocket complex

      Yes, they all shozh from garbage cans then? lol
      1. 0
        6 November 2016 18: 07
        Sounds like a gas cylinder to me. Which is used by the "moderate opposition" in Syria.
    4. +3
      6 November 2016 18: 11
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Something vaguely, I suspect the comrades from China in financing this zrad. Money from them, and technology 50 years ago ...

      ====
      And the Chinese have something to do with it ??? Firstly, the Chinks have had analogs of "Tochka-U" (and judging by the photo looks great). This time! If they wanted something in Ukraine, they would buy some technologies (although it is difficult to find those that might interest them), but certainly not to finance Ukrainian developments.
      If you look for the "financial ears" of this project, then they stick out somewhere from the Arabian deserts !!! Moreover, the customer seemed to be identified ...
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  2. +10
    6 November 2016 13: 31
    Shiman noted that the company already has an order from a foreign buyer (according to unofficial data, from Saudi Arabia) for several “Thunders”

    Fresh legend, but hard to believe ... Another "wunderwaffe", IMHO ...
    1. +6
      6 November 2016 14: 32
      Quote: bouncyhunter
      Fresh legend, but hard to believe ... Another "wunderwaffe", IMHO ...

      They have one more development - a tank with impenetrable armor, they will soon begin to print it on a 3D printer at KhTZ.

      1. +2
        6 November 2016 14: 58
        KARSA declassified? laughing
        1. 0
          6 November 2016 15: 05
          Quote: Victor BG
          KARSA declassified?

          You think that ... o_O

          lol
      2. 0
        6 November 2016 15: 35
        But what is the idea - they don’t have money for strongholds and no one will give much, there’s nothing to fight for. But if you get the tanks in 3d? Then it will be, and yes small trunks and armor does not break through! Brilliant ... drinks
        1. 0
          6 November 2016 17: 58
          Quote: Petr1
          Then it will be, and yes small trunks and armor does not break through! Brilliant ...

          Yes sir!
          The main thing is not to forget to open the hatches, otherwise the crew will suffocate without oxygen.
  3. +3
    6 November 2016 13: 36
    They put in new guides, painted them and passed them off as a great invention of the defense industry complex, but you won’t make candy out of ****.
    1. +5
      6 November 2016 13: 51
      Those. Point-U in the form of candy is not suitable for you? If only to find fault with other people's developments. Bring to mind, money allocated, there is a desire.
  4. 52
    0
    6 November 2016 13: 39
    A5 drank dough .... No longer interesting.
  5. 0
    6 November 2016 13: 39
    For that in the picture Crimean landscapes. Apparently the picture warms the soul.
  6. +1
    6 November 2016 13: 39
    for further export
    Well, right, their own hryvnia is dumb.
    I hope that nothing good will come of them, not the situation in the hopper, in order to produce serious weapons
  7. +2
    6 November 2016 13: 45
    “In the light of recent events, it became possible to use our scientific and technical potential ... this weapon allows us to prevent an attack by an aggressor from abroad ...” Now it’s clear, they apparently want to try these things on the Donbass. no words, but after that let them not be offended by the “aggressor”. Yes, and on the other side_ the army of the LDNR will have a new toy, “thunder” is called.
  8. +1
    6 November 2016 13: 46
    Interestingly. Is this “thunder” a challenge only in the picture or already in the drawings? Would you boast after a successful sale to someone, or just a Kakhlyatsky show off designed for a brain attack for residents of the ruin.
    1. +1
      6 November 2016 14: 09
      That's where there is the opportunity to profit, the missile system is not so much important for the Bandera elite as the availability of dough on this project.
  9. +3
    6 November 2016 13: 46
    It is disturbing. A monkey with a face is always dangerous. And Ukrainians with a rocket are actually a land. I would have thought at the place of the FSB about the shooting of the remaining designers and nuclear scientists in Ukraine. Or not about the sharpness, but from the unreliability of car brakes, etc ...
  10. +7
    6 November 2016 13: 52
    As the general director of the Pavlograd plant, Leonid Shiman, stated, “the work on the creation of the OTRK“ Thunder ”has been fully completed and is currently being prepared for its testing.”

    Tests scare me very much. In the days of Kuchma, the Ukrainian Armed Forces distinguished themselves, they bombed a nine-story building on Point nine in Brovary and several civilians were killed. The excuse was, as always, it's not us.
  11. +1
    6 November 2016 13: 56
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    That is, from the Islamic militants. sad

    To the little jumpers, it doesn’t matter to anyone what to sell, half of them are glad that they sold the soul to the devil, and am
  12. +5
    6 November 2016 14: 04
    Some kind of stupidity. Do they even understand what they say? This is something new. Ballistic missile with a range of 280 km. . They are already filling engines for testing in December. And the range can increase to 500 km., I.e. cram more fuel into it and the CEO says so. And the Saudis are already eager to buy the product. Full ...
    1. +4
      6 November 2016 14: 36
      I want to add. Director General is a traitor to Ukraine --- Moskal !!! lol. On a rocket he writes in English letters in Russian GROM. Well it must be in Ukrainian English GRIM, or Russian in Ukrainian GROME. Do not make a rocket - to seduce a cheater laughing
    2. 0
      6 November 2016 16: 17
      Quote: bald
      Some kind of stupidity. Do they even understand what they say? This is something new. Ballistic missile with a range of 280 km. . They are already filling engines for testing in December. And the range can increase to 500 km., I.e. cram more fuel into it and the CEO says so. And the Saudis are already eager to buy the product. Full ...

      So our Saudis do not sell Iskanders. here are the jumpers and climb, offering do not know what. you look and peck.
  13. +1
    6 November 2016 14: 05
    Photo clearly mounted.
  14. 0
    6 November 2016 14: 06
    Just let them in Saudi Arabia test their coffin so that if the rocket gets into the oil storage, immediately let them sell to the Saudis - the complex is accurate, and at least one target is hit lol
  15. HAM
    +2
    6 November 2016 14: 07
    If "this" shoots like a "Hammer", then you need to prepare a bunch of sacks right away ..
  16. +4
    6 November 2016 14: 07
    the opportunity to use our scientific and technological potential
    Neighing.
  17. +3
    6 November 2016 14: 07
    Ground-fence missile!
  18. +2
    6 November 2016 14: 08
    Vintik and Shpuntik are back in business. laughing

    A homemade mortar killed only a few people; PTRC test results are difficult to predict.
  19. +3
    6 November 2016 14: 10
    Quote: Better than drugs
    But it will shoot and the rocket will fall.

    So fall?
    Or maybe like this
    I just want to get an expert opinion.

    Any expert in any technical field will tell you about the concept of "contingency".
    In general, any person with an outlook> 0 and a psyche within the framework of the norm knows about this expression.
    Maybe you would like to hear the expert opinion about you in this particular part?
  20. +2
    6 November 2016 14: 14
    Quote: Sentry73
    Bring to mind, money allocated, there is a desire.

    Oh well. Someone wanted to go to Europe too.
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  22. +1
    6 November 2016 14: 24
    Quote: hrych
    Quote: Better than drugs
    why Russia has no friends

    Gentlemen have no friends, only slaves laughing Learning from the Anglo-Saxons am

    Yes, something and slaves you do not hurt a lot. Serfs need to be fed and watered, a good word is sometimes said. And if you bark at all, then everyone will scatter.
    1. +1
      6 November 2016 14: 44
      I can enter into controversy, because I am in correspondence with many of your tech-scientists. They SURVIVE, as we have in the early 90's. In ten years from now, maybe you will have a normal politician, and after another five, you will return to your level of life. Yes, just can not believe it.
      1. +1
        6 November 2016 15: 22
        But you have found Putin. It is possible that sometime someone like us will arise in power.
        1. +3
          6 November 2016 15: 32
          And you will have a Shoigu, if you don’t stop playing the fool, with nuclear fuel and missiles that need to be tested. They are unable to launch shells, and produce tactical missiles there. Why waste time on trifles, stir up the Death Star right away wassat
  23. +4
    6 November 2016 14: 30
    we, together with the Yuzhnoye design bureau, without requesting financial support from the state

    Poroshenko said that the development of the complex will continue, the money allocated

    You at least decide there
  24. +1
    6 November 2016 14: 30
    Quote: Orionvit
    Quote: Sentry73
    Bring to mind, money allocated, there is a desire.

    Oh well. Someone wanted to go to Europe too.

    Well, they themselves are to blame. Even under Yanyka, they began to arrange trade wars, prohibit products, bend the country's leadership. In Europe, the rules of the game are transparent. If you bend down, then they will pay for it. And not like with Belarus. Sitting father is quietly well done, ally. Trying to do something in favor, immediately bad.
    1. 0
      6 November 2016 16: 15
      Quote: Sentry73
      In Europe, the rules of the game are transparent.

      But no one is waiting for Ukraine there.
    2. 0
      7 November 2016 10: 43
      Quote: Sentry73
      In Europe, the rules of the game are transparent. If you bend down, then they will pay for it.

      Powerfully said)) Bent down, then paid. Well, well, it’s Europe, there is a lot of prostitution where allowed ...
  25. +1
    6 November 2016 14: 32
    There is no one to laugh .. IN UKRAINE there are not even own wheeled tractors, what can we say about the WTO or any other high-powered power supply ..
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  27. +1
    6 November 2016 14: 37
    Well, let them work and .... EVERYTHING!
    There Israel cooperates with them, obviously ..! We are watching where it will fly!
    And then from our side, we can teach .. bully
  28. +2
    6 November 2016 14: 38
    Yes, I do not believe in the creative forces of Svidomo thought. I am familiar, you know, with a fairly large number of scientists from there. They drove their science, and did it for a long time, and in recent years - just "in a mess". One translation of the technical documentation into Svidom - taking into account the fact that many words in this language are SIMPLY NOT. After that, it takes a genius to make something using such documentation. And so that it fly somewhere? Well, the general collapse of the industry, the breakdown of ties, CHRONIC THEFT at all levels. The diagnosis will not fly!
  29. 0
    6 November 2016 14: 45
    Quote: Better than drugs
    that Moldova is launching, apparently, something sewer (specialization however).


    And then they wonder why Russia has no friends

    But Russia, in principle, has no friends and no allies. In addition to the army and navy ... hi
  30. 0
    6 November 2016 14: 45
    “In the light of recent events, it became possible to use our scientific and technical potential to create new types of weapons related to operational-tactical missiles.
    News from "ukroboronprom": "Every day, then one hundred grams, or even one hundred and fifty"! (C / f "Welcome) ...
  31. +1
    6 November 2016 14: 54
    When you hoist the flag of Ukraine on the moon, then your "Thunder" will fly.
    Shiman noted that the company already has an order from a foreign buyer (according to unofficial data, from Saudi Arabia)
    It is strange that, according to Ukrainian tradition, he does not claim that several dozen Thunders have already been sold.
    The military-industrial complex reports with reference to the Ukrainian service of Radio Liberty.
    Ukrainian "Freedom" to believe? I am begging you...
  32. cap
    +1
    6 November 2016 14: 54
    As the general director of the Pavlograd plant, Leonid Shiman, stated, “the work on the creation of the OTRK“ Thunder ”has been fully completed and is currently being prepared for its testing.”
    Shiman noted that the company already has an order from several foreign buyers (according to unofficial data, from Saudi Arabia) for several Thunders.

    Risking Leonid Shiman. If "Thunder" breaks out, you will not have time to cross the original, in response to a copy, for revision.
    Although ..... in "nezalezhnaya" it is no longer relevant, due to the new mentality of the authorities.
    "Satan reigns there ..." is about 404 territory.
    Did I miss anything?
  33. +1
    6 November 2016 15: 36
    Let them first experience as it should. Layouts don't say anything. The Ukrainian army needs such complexes. Yes, she needs a lot of things. Only....
  34. 0
    6 November 2016 15: 54
    Tse peremoga chi zrada? If the budget is mastered, but there are no missiles? Or will it be a ballistic bullet, a la the ancient Scud? The impression is that they are going "forward into the past" there. They do not bring their "Tochka-U" to mind, then they began to sculpt an analogue of Iskander.
  35. 0
    6 November 2016 16: 03
    Quote: Angry 55
    There is no one to laugh .. IN UKRAINE there are not even own wheeled tractors, what can we say about the WTO or any other high-powered power supply ..

    But is it okay that all of our Strategic Rocket Forces are also not on Russian tractors? Is it so critical? Or is the question different, is it possible or not for UMZ to create the above complex now? The potential, I think, still remains. Question in money
  36. 0
    6 November 2016 16: 09
    And what is this sewer tank theirs "Thunder"? Then yes, of course, it's over, maybe it's time to dig in laughing
  37. 0
    6 November 2016 16: 09
    Quote: Altona
    They don't bring their "Dots-U" to mind,

    And how can it be brought to mind?
  38. 0
    6 November 2016 16: 10
    Well repainted iskander case ....
  39. 0
    6 November 2016 16: 23
    No questions. Stated loudly. The Saudis hit.
  40. 0
    6 November 2016 16: 23
    yes that you are all southmash
  41. 0
    6 November 2016 16: 35
    The question immediately arises: Where does the grandmother come from? Then the answer is, there are no grandmothers, so where does this "zrada" come from?
  42. 0
    6 November 2016 16: 37
    Well, yes, well, yes, a new missile system, then a station on the moon, well, what are the little things that give flight not Mars !!! They dug the seas, mountains poured, and here it’s some kind of garbage, but seriously, how could such a thing, by historical standards, cause a whole nation to degrade so much, I’m not talking about rockets of Mars and the moon, but in general?
  43. 0
    6 November 2016 16: 50
    Techies with brains in Ukraine have always had enough. Just something tells me that these missiles will not fly. Well, if they fly, then low and not far. smile
  44. +8
    6 November 2016 17: 05
    Quote: Andrey Yurievich
    site VO, to disgust began to resemble a "censor" .. you-threshing floor! Yes, you yourself, threshing floor! ... what a pity ... the site was head and shoulders above ... the moderators "execute" on a whim, and when necessary, they sleep, just horror is happening on the site ... but as in the country.


    Yuryevich, you are right, unfortunately. My first comment for 2-3 of the month, with the update. I go in, read an article, climb into comments - I spit and leave. Dear moderators: admit the mistake, return to the old version of the site - and a huge number of adequate people (comments) will return (I do not want to offend (upset) all the forum users on the site in any way - try to understand me correctly). To list everything - the whole article will be typed, but after this update (a lot of obscene language in my head) there is no desire to participate in the dialogue. The main thing: terrible brakes (earlier everything flied on the laptop and tablet, even on an old phone I tried to go to the forum - it was interesting); the absence of cons is generally the most important, in fact. For inadequate (unprofessional) commentary, it was possible to slide below the plinth for 1-2 times: believe me - this was one of the most serious constraints. And now? negative Emotions are like grandmothers at the entrance: in order to subtract a normal thoughtful (especially professional (knowledgeable)) comment, you need to look through the entire forum, and that is not the fact that it will be.
    1. +4
      6 November 2016 17: 25
      Quote: S_Baykala
      Dear moderators: admit the mistake, return to the old version of the site - and a huge number of adequate people (comments) will return (I do not want to offend (upset) all the forum users on the site in any way - try to understand me correctly).

      In general, the previous version will not help. For it was the outflow of adequate sober people. Now the course is on patriotic popularization to the detriment of the quality of comments and articles. That is, expanse of cheers to patriots. And articles about Ukraine / USA / EU are actually a reserve for hats, competitions in humor and other things.
      And about the Russian censor there is no writing in 2014 ..
      As for the article, KB has an order, an advance payment of 40 million, Pavlograd finished with fuel. Now it's the turn of the tests. Already late with trials. promised in the fall (although it did not end)
      And what are the concerns? Well create OTRK-won how many countries have created and sold. Nothing special. about the use in conflict, so what. In this conflict, without the use of aviation, the OTRK will play the role of a long arm. But they need to be in sufficient quantities. But this is a long task.
      1. +2
        6 November 2016 18: 30
        I support !!!! the opportunity to get minus is very disciplined in the comments ....
    2. +2
      6 November 2016 17: 39
      I agree to all 100%! hi
  45. 0
    6 November 2016 17: 23
    So all the same, Russia will have to strike a preemptive strike ...
  46. 0
    6 November 2016 17: 27
    Well, what can I say ... when, after all, you need to move from slingshots to something more modern ...
  47. 0
    6 November 2016 17: 28
    It's like ukrosupertank "Azovets" .... !!!!
  48. 0
    6 November 2016 18: 05
    Hooray! Fly to Mars !!! laughing
  49. 0
    6 November 2016 18: 28
    A-aaa "OTRK" Thunder ", and I thought" Kassam ".... well, good luck ... just Kassam has already been worked out, and this one will not have time to take off before the end of the ukroreyha ...
  50. 0
    6 November 2016 19: 02
    "Does this even happen with ballistic and cruise missiles of the complex?" so that at once in one bottle? As I understand it, here either take off the cross or put on panties. not?
  51. 0
    6 November 2016 20: 06
    Dreamers are the main product of "Nezalezhnaya".
  52. +1
    6 November 2016 23: 32
    Quote: Sentry73
    In Europe, the rules of the game are transparent.

    A naive Chukchi youth, sorry, a Ukrainian boy.

    If they bend you over, they will pay for it.

    Does the idea of ​​a European freebie continue to shake the mind of the average Ukrainian?

    Or maybe the “GDP growth of the Baltic countries” (due to trenches) was very exciting? The Balts are paid as long as they serve as a stinking bedbug rug of Russophobia for their neighbor’s door. However, these are small states and no one gives them a lot of money. The scale of Ukraine is an order of magnitude larger. Europe simply does not have such free money. Meanwhile, where are the Baltic nuclear power plants, where are the refineries, how do the ports function? What is the news on the story of the scammer tanker with democratic gas from Norway?

    Do you hope that you will be left with at least the remnants of industry, even if you are admitted to the European Union until the end of time? And why is Holland so stubborn about even ratifying the non-binding “European Association”? Remember the song of Alice the fox and Basilio the cat? There's also something about the land of fools and money that grows on trees.

  53. 0
    6 November 2016 23: 57
    So what, they’ll just start mass production?
    And they have all the related products in stock, right?
    At best, I believe, they will make a couple of samples for display at exhibitions and that’s it.
  54. 0
    7 November 2016 01: 19
    2
    Better than drugs Yesterday, 16:05 ↑ New
    Will we fight in footage of successful and unsuccessful launches?

    There's no need to fight. I understand perfectly well that BMWs don’t always start. My comment was addressed to the expert from above in order to show him at least a drop of adequacy.

    That's it......and we thought that this was an ordinary communication crisis for you.....
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  56. 0
    7 November 2016 02: 23
    What the ukrokakly didn’t “state”!!!!!! Another prodigy, and another self-deception! laughing
  57. 0
    7 November 2016 03: 12
    "Shiman noted that the company already has an order from a foreign buyer (according to unofficial data, from Saudi Arabia) for several Groms."
    This is where it’s completely unclear! How can a customer order something that has not yet been tested and apparently not done? This option is only possible if the customer has provided his own developments and product drawings, which is at least strange for Saudi Arabia!
    1. 0
      7 November 2016 13: 50
      It’s really somehow not like the Saudis to pay money for pie in the sky
  58. 0
    7 November 2016 04: 54
    That's right!!!-Saudi Arabia is in danger, it needs to be saved.
  59. 0
    7 November 2016 08: 02
    Ukrainian terrorists openly declare that they have made, will make, or are going to make (here, as always in Ukraine, nothing is clear) a missile to destroy man-made targets. Not military. ...
  60. 0
    7 November 2016 11: 12
    Once again I am convinced that the Kakloreich is a pathetic parody of the 3rd Reich - they are following the same road.
    Even if this miracle weapon Tochka-GROM is somehow fantastically brought to working condition, this will not help the Ukrainian junta. All of their latest developments are homemade low-quality mechanics from materials from the USSR era and foreign electronics from Aliexpress. A rocket made from old rusty water pipes controlled by Arduino
    1. 0
      7 November 2016 13: 54
      Ger Oberst, let me remind you that even homemade missiles can cause serious harm (God forbid, if to yourself) to others
  61. 0
    7 November 2016 13: 46
    Quote: veteran66
    Quote: Ulan
    All talk about friendship between states is nothing more than diplomacy.

    wow, this is all from the scoop with the commie’s invention about the friendship of the peoples of the USSR)))

    We can clearly see this “friendship of peoples” with permission. Viz where the people's "guardians" worked there and "friendship"

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