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Answers on questions. On the assault groups of the Red Army

"Dear Alexander! I have a question that arose back in May last year. If you can help, I will be very grateful. My grandfather, Anatoly Andreyevich Smirnov, died somewhere near Konigsberg. Nobody knows the funeral, and no one knows the exact place of death. However, from the last letters of my grandfather, I learned that he had fought in the assault group. I know from films and Internet sources that the soldiers of the assault groups were select fighters. My grandfather, according to my grandmother’s recollections, was not tall, was not physically outstanding. Is it possible? B Is there a part of the assault groups of the Red Army soldiers are? Andrey Smirnov. "

Answers on questions. On the assault groups of the Red Army

The first, respected author of the letter. Your grandfather is a hero! Which for the most part were all the soldiers and officers of the assault groups of the Red Army. What filmmakers show us, more often than not, is historical the truth. This is not to distort history. Just a movie has its own laws. An athlete with pumped up muscles fits well into the image of the “great warrior”. But in reality, such a "broiler" with a huge mass of muscles is a rarity.

You have not written at least about the date of the death of your grandfather. Therefore, let me express my opinion exactly. This happened at the start of 1945. Why do I think so? Just to Koenigsberg the Red Army went out at the end of January 1945. However, due to certain military and political events of the time, the troops “stood” until April 1945. And they did not just stand, but also learned to fight in conditions completely new to them.

Everybody learned. From front commander to simple fighter. Such training was vital. The forts and fortresses of Königsberg still earn the respect of military engineers of various armies. According to most experts, these are ideal defenses even today. And in the middle of the 20 century?

The defense of the city had three distinct rings. The first was in 6-8 kilometers from the city center. The foundation of this ring was the 15 forts built at the end of the 19 century. Thick walls, underground passages, perfectly prepared sectors of fire for the artillery of the fort, comfortable conditions for the autonomous life of the garrison for several months. The garrisons of these forts are few by military standards. Until 200 is a man of personnel. But the forts were armed with many machine guns, prepared minefields, artillery (12-15 guns). On the "little things" like mining the area around the forts and the use of barbed wire and various engineering traps will not even talk.

After the breakthrough of this ring, Soviet soldiers had to go to the second ring. Almost approach the city. It must be remembered that Konigsberg is an old city. The buildings there are really built for centuries. Therefore, almost all the buildings on the outskirts of the city were turned into fortresses, the streets were blocked by barricades and mined. Which excluded the use of armored units and formations. Or single Tanksor tank units maximum.

A "snack" the Nazis left the third ring of defense. City center. These are well-fortified bastions (9 pieces) and ravelins of the middle of the 19 century. The Ravelins of Königsberg were not just auxiliary defensive structures of the fortress, but also independent combat units. In fact, mini-fortresses.

But back directly to the issue. Who really were the "elite" soldiers of Marshal Vasilevsky? Who were selected as part of the famous, in fact, the main assault on the Koenigsberg assault groups?

Alas, even at the end of the war, the Red Army was not able to train fighters for such units. However, the combat experience of soldiers and officers by that time already allowed to speak of them as trained and persistent fighters.

The basis for conducting combat operations was the rifle battalion. It was from its composition that the assault groups stood out, which, in turn, were divided into subgroups. Each battalion created two assault groups and a reserve. That is, in fact, the battalion was divided according to the usual company principle. Just two companies were reinforced by the attached means.

The assault group was divided into subgroups. Most often there were five such subgroups. The first to go into battle were two fire subgroups. Their task was to go right behind the firing shaft, which created artillery. That is why in these subgroups the armament was appropriate. Automatic rifles, machine guns, flamethrowers and sapper department. The number of each fire subgroup ranged from 20 to 30 people.

Behind the "fire brigade" was a subgroup consolidation. The number of machine gunners here was reduced to 8-10. However, this subgroup included a platoon of heavy machine guns, a squad of sappers, and attached guns or mortars (up to 2 units).

Together with the subgroup fixing acted fire subgroup. To this part of the attackers, it is necessary to attribute attached tanks, guns, and other means that were not part of the reinforcement subgroup. In some areas, such "fighters" were a rather formidable force.

For quick replenishment of subgroups a backup subgroup was created. There were sent 10-15 machine gunners, gun crews (1-3), the branch of the sappers and the branch of easel machine guns.

Thus, the assault group was a fairly serious force. Reinforced rifle company, two light guns, two regimental guns 76-mm, two divisional guns (of type ZIS-3) 76-mm, gun or howitzer (depending on the combat mission) 122-mm, two tanks or 122-mm SAU, a squad of 82-mm mortars, a platoon of heavy machine guns, a squad of sappers, a backpack flamethrower squad.

Such a group was necessarily supported by a battery, and in some cases a regimental or divisional artillery division.

I do not know who your grandfather was in the military specialty. But as part of the assault groups, as you probably already understood, there were many such specialties. And not all of them demanded great physical strength, possession of small and cold weapons. Although by the year 1945 experienced soldiers who would be poorly owned personal weapons, there were few. War is a good school.

Dying arrows, who went on the attack on fortified positions almost openly. The sappers who shot mines ahead of the attackers died. Indeed, in the conditions of the battle there was no time for mine clearance. Mina just found and with the help of "cats" tore off, causing undermining.

Gunners died in the conditions of the city working on direct fire, and the protection in 6-8 did not save millimeters from enemy fire. Tankmen, who in their cars on narrow streets became an easy target for grenades and faust-cartridges, died. Flamethrowers who actually worked on enemy positions were killed, given the firing range of backpack flame throwers.

But the soldiers did their work. The backbone of the fascist beast was broken. And we should be proud that they are our soldiers. Our, Soviet. Russians, no matter what language they speak. Glory to your grandfather, dear Andrei!

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  1. parafoiler
    parafoiler 4 November 2016 06: 29
    A deep bow and glory to the Russian-Soviet soldier!
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 4 November 2016 07: 04
      It's not about growth, but in the spirit. It so happened that the assault - the vanguard, then support and cover (cordebatialia), then the rear (rear guard). The first in the offensive was all harder. They are Heroes.
      1. dmi.pris1
        dmi.pris1 4 November 2016 19: 08
        In the mid-70s, I was still a boy talking as it seemed to me then to the old man, although he was a little more than 50 years old. He fought in such groups in Berlin. He had an interesting story, I forgot a lot, of course, but I remember my the question and the answer to it. Was it scary? Yes, always before the battle, you don’t know whether you will survive or not .. all the more before the eyes of the bodies of the dead comrades .. But then the attack went and the work went, just work and anger against the enemy and fear retreated .. I listened with my mouth open .. Something like that another pilot told me .. Honor and praise to these people!
      2. Duke
        Duke 4 November 2016 22: 07
        The assault on Koenigsberg

      3. Alekseev
        Alekseev 5 November 2016 16: 59
        Quote: siberalt
        It's not about growth, but in the spirit.

        That's right!
        And the author quite rightly writes that the assault group is 1–3 pieces reinforced by tanks (sau), art. guns, mortars, separation of sappers, etc. normal rifle company. Well, if it was possible to conduct a certain combat coordination.
        But in the Red Army there was also an assault special forces - SISBr (assault engineering and combat engineer brigades). They were especially actively used in battles in East Prussia, including and the assault on Koenigsberg.
        It would be nice to recall this experience now ...
        1. Egor rustic
          Egor rustic 5 November 2016 19: 41
          in general, it’s more difficult to get into a small puny body, and it’s easier to find shelter. and for a bayonet of a rifle, a small enough effort. with pps even easier. sapper shovel also does not require gigantic forces.
          I saw a photo of fighters stormed the Kuril Islands. all as a selection below the middle sprout. and they still managed to pull out 45 mm guns
  2. svp67
    svp67 4 November 2016 06: 42
    The tactics of the assault groups are not our invention, but starting with Halkin-Gol, continuing to the Finnish and World War II, then, alas, with blood, but the tactics of their actions were brought to perfection, which was brilliantly shown in Stalingrad, and then during the battles for other cities and during the assault on fortified positions ...
    Eternal Glory to the soldiers of TOY war and Eternal Memory, to those who did not return.
    1. cannabis
      cannabis 4 November 2016 17: 16
      It would be interesting to know what buildings, fortresses, bunkers, fortified areas were occupied by our assault groups on the Halkin-Gol River. Assault groups in the Mongolian steppe .... interesting.
      1. svp67
        svp67 4 November 2016 19: 44
        Quote: cunning
        It would be interesting to know what buildings, fortresses, bunkers, fortified areas were occupied by our assault groups on the Halkin-Gol River. Assault groups in the Mongolian steppe .... interesting.

        And the fact of the matter is that NOT ANYTHING, but the great loss of personnel and time during the offensive operations, just made me think about changing infantry tactics. No wonder that one of the main adherents of the assault groups was Zhukov.
        1. cannabis
          cannabis 4 November 2016 19: 53
          For the first time I hear about Zhukov’s involvement in the development of SH tactics. Zhukov was not in Stalingrad. The commander of the 62nd Army, General Chuikov, and his headquarters were engaged in the development of the tactics of the SH operations. And very successful. Chuikov was an excellent tactician and Stalin deliberately kept him in the role of army commander throughout the war. It was Chuykov who fought on the most difficult sections. Stalingrad - Kursk Bulge - Zeelovsky Heights. Professional in place. And after the war, Stalin made him a marshal and appointed him to the Gosvg. And rightfully so.
  3. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 4 November 2016 07: 31
    In the assault on the fortified city of Königsberg, three assault engineering and sapper brigades of the Reserve of the Supreme High Command took part.
    Perhaps it is about them.
    More specifically, these were the 4th, 2nd Guards Motorized and 3rd Brigades.
    I give a link to an article three years ago
    1. domokl
      domokl 4 November 2016 08: 35
      Alas, the brigades were created, as far as I remember, in the 1943 year. But Vasilevsky trained assault groups based on infantry battalions.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 4 November 2016 09: 14
        Yes, the creation of assault groups was not an initiative of front-line commanders; the creation of assault groups was determined by secret orders for the armies, for example, as it looked in the 11th Guards. Paragraph III. (Organization and preparation of assault groups) describes everything in detail.
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 5 November 2016 21: 04
        In Stalingrad, airborne divisions were thrown into battle, which were renamed into infantry
        guards (at this time already realized that no mass landings are expected).
        Guards paratroopers were well trained, much better than regular infantry.
        Since urban battles were coming, sapper assault groups of the most physically and motivated fighters were created within these divisions.
    2. Niccola Mack
      Niccola Mack 4 November 2016 11: 09
      As always, our attitude towards the prewar leadership policy is as follows: before the war they did nothing, didn’t prepare for anything, didn’t study anything, they didn’t write anything in the charters.
      The same approach to assault groups - because of the pre-war policy, nothing was written anywhere. To storm large settlements should have been the usual units anyhow.
      But before the assault on Konigsberg, the operations department of the headquarters of the 11th Guards Army suddenly sat down and wrote out of nothing in February 1945, “Instructions for the assault on the city and the fortress of Königsberg,” so good that they took Berlin with a bang.
      In fact, even in the pre-war charters was clearly spelled out how to fight in the settlements.
      In particular, PU-39:
      Infantry units are assigned to attack strongholds, which are assigned sappers with subversive weapons, individual guns, mortars, flamethrowers, machine guns, armored cars and tanks. Advancement within a settlement is carried out not through the streets, but by gardens, kitchen gardens, courtyards, through breaks in the walls of houses. Small units, armored cars and tanks attack the streets.
      When attacking a settlement, small infantry units must act with the greatest determination and completely independently.

      There were instructions, memos and other directions.
      Before the war.
      The German "The combat charter of infantry of the German Army of 1940" was well known. where such actions were spelled out in part 9, "Driving and fighting infantry. Infantry Battalion. "
      During the war, experience was repeatedly recorded in various documents, in particular in the Combat Order of the Red Army (Battalion, Regiment) of 1942.
      The experience of Stalingrad gave a lot.

      What was written in the "Instructions" was a clear and clear generalization of all the previous experience (and written instructions) of the Soviet Army in creating and using assault groups for the current operation (rather extraordinary).
      Specific and binding guidance for specific performers.
      It was impossible to get out of here - and apparently Galanin, knowing well the psychology of some commanders, ordered this “package of documents” to be created.

      In the assault on the fortified city of Königsberg, three assault engineering and sapper brigades of the Reserve of the Supreme High Command took part.
      Perhaps it is about them.

      The “Instructions” and orders are not about them - since they (the assault engineering and combat engineer brigades of the RVGK, or “armored infantry”) themselves knew how to conduct assault actions in the cities - and they could teach all of this - for this they were created.
      In the photo - it is the "armored infantry", but according to the description - most likely specially organized and trained assault groups of ordinary units.
      1. Niccola Mack
        Niccola Mack 4 November 2016 11: 26
        I apologize for "Galanin" of course "Galitsky KN" is the commander of the 11th Guards.
      2. cannabis
        cannabis 4 November 2016 20: 42
        In the 1940 combat charter there is no concept of SHG and there is no tactics of SHG action. It's just that those groups of soldiers and units appointed by the decision of the commander to destroy the bunkers and bunkers are called assault. And that’s it! And only after the battles of Stalingrad did the specific responsibilities of the commanders and the order come from the implementation of the organization and management of the ShG’s actions,
        1. Niccola Mack
          Niccola Mack 5 November 2016 08: 15
          In the 1940 combat charter there is no concept of SHG and there is no tactics of SHG action. It's just that those groups of soldiers and units appointed by the decision of the commander to destroy the bunkers and bunkers are called assault. And that's it!

          You are now - voluntarily or involuntarily raised a very interesting question.
          The transfer of combat experience and new techniques both in peacetime, and especially during war.
          Let’s say, I thought that the Combat Manual is a clear collection of “how to fight”. I didn’t see him in an emergency, but I knew by heart the Charter of the guard service - that’s where everything really was thoroughly written down and did not change for years.
          After meeting, say, with the pre-war PU-39 (field charter of 39 years), it immediately catches the eye that this is a pretty directive document (by the way, it had an interesting status). This is the “senior” charter of the Red Army before the war.
          The main ways and methods of maintaining the database are clearly and clearly spelled out, but in general form.
          And at the very beginning it is written in black and white:
          15. The manifestation of the initiative is one of the most important conditions for successful action in battle. Willingness to take responsibility for a bold decision and persistently pursue it to the end is the basis for the actions of all commanders in battle. The initiative of subordinates should be fully encouraged and used to achieve overall success. The manifestation of the initiative should not run counter to the general intention of the superior and should contribute to a better accomplishment of the task. Reasonable initiative is based on an understanding of the tasks and position of its compound (unit) as a whole and its neighbors. It consists of: the desire to find the best ways to accomplish the task in the current situation; in the use of all the suddenly existing favorable opportunities and in the immediate adoption of measures against the threat that has arisen.
          In all cases, a bold and reasonable daring should lead the boss and subordinates upon entering into battle and during its conduct. The reproach deserves not the one who, in an effort to destroy the enemy did not achieve his goal, but the one who, fearing responsibility, remained inactive and did not use at the right time all the forces and means to achieve victory.

          The situation with combat manuals is somewhat better, but not by much - the authorized densities of troops for defense and attack are given, the width of the defense and attack bands, but again in general form. And if there are not enough troops for such densities, and if ????
          This is where the instructions, instructions, directions, recommendations, topics in the departments of military schools and academies, and notes in secret notebooks for teachers of various courses and schools appear.
          Moreover, let’s say, the instruction can be introduced by special order and directly cancel the articles and provisions of the charter.
          The war does not wait for the next approved edition of the charter - it is necessary to fight now.
          In our situation, the story is absolutely identical - the general mention in the charters on the one hand and the very detailed "Instructions for the assault ..." on the other, which was between them, we for the most part do not know.
          And this is understandable - if charters and unclassified instructions (handbooks, textbooks) flash on the Internet relatively often, then the end of the path for other secret documents is usually one - to the furnace of special stoves of "secrets" under the supervision of "moderators" and "special police officers".
          It was dragged by everyone in the 90s, and in Soviet times it "smelled like" a criminal article, and declassification was an extraordinary task!

          I know that our "sworn friends" from NATO have the same system of disseminating experience.
          1. cannabis
            cannabis 5 November 2016 08: 42
            Everything cannot be classified, you have to work somehow. "The scrap itself is not secret, the angle of its sharpening is secret." The difference between Soviet and NATO, in particular American, charters is enormous! In our charters, general principles are given so that everyone would know them and "do not push their elbows". In American charters EVERYTHING is written! No amateur performances. In the 80s I studied the US infantry regulations, I don’t remember the name of the figure somehow. I began to compare it with ours. Interesting! In our BUSV it is prescribed to stretch out the column and move from the starting point along roads and column tracks. Stops for a rest in 2-3 hours. The Americans are angrier - walk 10 km from the starting point, stop for 10-15 minutes to check the equipment, then race on. Well, I scratched my turnip, I remember. But when a week later, 10 km from the shelf, a jet of oil hit my car with a fountain, I realized that the equipment is everywhere made of iron and breaks down the same way. The Americans understood this and reflected it in the Charter. Since then, leading the columns, I always made a stop 10 km after leaving to check the wedges on the earrings of the caterpillars and durites in the systems.
            1. Niccola Mack
              Niccola Mack 5 November 2016 11: 05
              I had a slightly different situation.
              I served, so to speak - on the unit, of which there were 2 pieces in the division.
              We were in the states - to be supplied as it was necessary - and that’s all - practically we didn’t go through the division’s normative documents.
              But we had a voluminous secret "Manual on ...".
              Along with the operating instructions and technical descriptions, this was quite enough.
              The instruction was very interesting - especially in matters of subordination.
              And when a check came to us from the division, there was nothing special to check. Because as soon as the phrase "and in the" Manual on ... "flashed across the faces of the inspectors, it immediately became clear that they not only did not know about what was written there, but did not even suspect about its existence.
              We were asked to show how the equipment is configured and that’s it - the test was over.
              And nothing worked!
              When I went to the "secret room" - my eyes ran up - I wanted to read a lot.
              The answer was unchanged - you have your own swamp - there you go croak!
              1. cannabis
                cannabis 5 November 2016 11: 31
                When our formations collapsed in the Group of Forces, then along with shells, mines and missiles, tons of literature of particleboard were burned. A huge layer of information was destroyed. There was an association with the fire in the Alexandria Library, the death of the Ivan the Terrible library and the burning of books in 30 years around the world. It is not clear to the seized one that he is being duped. I remember when I was young, my company soldier dreamed of becoming a checker: I’ll come, turn around for three days, bring to hysteria, abandon the cleared glade, and then drop the lists and acts on the table and say - Put whatever you want!
            2. kunstkammer
              kunstkammer 28 March 2017 22: 00
              I remember the stories of teachers about the "features" of German students. Ours reported that to solve such a problem, 90-100 machines are needed.
              All! After that, the Germans fell into hysteria: so how many cars do you need - 90 or all the same 100?
              And they were shocked that out of 100 prepared for battle in advance, at least 10 cars would certainly break.
  4. EvgNik
    EvgNik 4 November 2016 07: 48
    Alexander, thanks for the article.
    Why is it not so? Like everything as always:
    The same sky is blue again,
    The same forest, the same air and the same water,
    Only he did not return from battle.
  5. Stas57
    Stas57 4 November 2016 08: 04
    Alas, even at the end of the war the Red Army did not have the opportunity to train fighters for such units. However, the combat experience of soldiers and officers by that time already made it possible to talk about them as trained and persistent fighters ..
    this is not entirely true - they thoroughly prepared for the assault on Koenigsberg, conducted training for several weeks.
    several surrounding villages have been converted into miniKöneg. And this MiniKeneg was "taken" ten times, practicing the coordination of units.
    I need to find somewhere I had a report on this issue, everything was very clearly thought out there.
    1. domokl
      domokl 4 November 2016 08: 37
      Have you carefully read the article? It's not about the fact that they did not prepare the group, but the preparation of the soldiers of the Red Army. And the fact that from the end of January to April 5 training was an indisputable fact. As well as the participation of the assault brigades created in 43.
      By the way, the structure of assault groups of just such a composition largely copies the German experience
      1. Stas57
        Stas57 4 November 2016 08: 57
        Quote: domokl
        You carefully read the article

        Yes, it seems, but I did not see about training. Do not tell me where did I miss?
        1. Fonmeg
          Fonmeg 4 November 2016 10: 03

          The command of the 3rd Belorussian Front appealed to the Konigsberg garrison with a call for surrender. Upon learning of this, Lyash ordered the execution of members of the Free Germany committee who secretly worked in the city. “An order is an order,” the soldiers said, “but if we shoot at every German, then the matter will be that we will kill each other.”

          The small troops of Vasilevsky were preparing for a decisive assault on the city. In the 11th Guards Army, a third of the new replenishment did not smell gunpowder at all, as many were fines, every tenth managed to be held captive, and many Moldovans had previously served in the Romanian army. In the army ranks there are few old, seasoned in previous battles fighters. In one of the battalions of the 43rd Army, they calculated: 1941 people served since 14, 1942 people since 4, 1943 people since 59, 1944 people since 41, and the rest since 1945. Most of the human resources of the Supreme High Command concentrated on the Berlin direction.

          From morning to late evening, assault squads and groups armed with machine guns and light machine guns, barbed wire scissors, ladders, flooring, shovels, smoke bombs, "cats" for mine explosions, thermal balls with a combustible mixture, learned to throw grenades into windows , crawl and quickly run from cover to cover, jump over ditches and fences, advance through breaches in walls and engage in hand-to-hand fighting in buildings.

          In one of the libraries of the city of Kranets (now Zelenogradsk) they found a detailed plan of Koenigsberg, which was urgently translated into Russian, supplemented by intelligence and aerial photography. And already at the end of March, unit commanders received maps of the city, literally mottled with conditional badges of enemy positions.

          At the same time, on the outskirts of the city of Velau (now the city of Znamensk), under the leadership of a military engineer A.V. Maximov, the first architect of post-war Kaliningrad, made a large model of the fortified city with all the suburbs. About a hundred people without sleep and rest from trophy soft construction cardboard carved reliefs, made toy houses, trees, parks, ponds and bridges, laid miniature ditches and built forts. Before the performers could stop looking at the brightly lit, smelling fresh paint model, at the front headquarters they began training with the commanders of the formations.
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 4 November 2016 09: 59
        Quote: domokl
        Have you carefully read the article? It's not about the fact that they did not prepare the group, but the preparation of the soldiers of the Red Army. And the fact that from the end of January until April 5th was training was an indisputable fact. As well as the participation of the assault brigades created in the year 43

        Yes! I agree with you. Here is a link to the 1943 assault engineering brigades
        .http: //

        Photos from the post on the link.
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 4 November 2016 08: 26
    Thank you, blessed memory to all those who died for the freedom and independence of our country
  7. Djuma-13
    Djuma-13 4 November 2016 10: 22
    Nikolay Nikiforov
    Red Army assault brigades in battle
    ikiforov_Nikolay _-_ Shturmovye_brigady_Krasnoy_Arm
  8. ava09
    ava09 4 November 2016 10: 49
    Thanks to Alexander Staver for the material.
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 4 November 2016 13: 07
    The ratio of physical strength to body weight in soldiers of short stature is significantly greater than in two-meter athletes. It is enough to compare the results of weight lifters of small and large weights. And divide their results by their own weight.
    And in terms of the skill of our soldiers, at the end of the war, our forces gained such power that no fortified areas, no Zeelovsky heights could keep the forces rushing to victory.
    Glory to our soldiers! It is a pity that the geyropeytsy need to REMIND WHAT IS RUSSIAN SOLDIER. Forgot, obviously.
    1. Egor rustic
      Egor rustic 5 November 2016 19: 59
      also took the fortified Kuril Islands yielding a population of 8-10 times
  10. poplar in Kiev
    poplar in Kiev 4 November 2016 14: 41
    The photo shows the work of assault teams in Stalingrad. Dressed in first steel body armor
    1. Alexander Greene
      Alexander Greene 4 November 2016 22: 18
      Yes, and they weighed more than 30 kg. In such ammunition, our fighters stormed the pillboxes and bunkers.
  11. cannabis
    cannabis 4 November 2016 17: 44
    The field manual of PU-39 did not provide for the creation and did not determine the tactics of action of the assault groups. The very concept of "assault group" was not in the field manual. And only in the course of the defense of Stalingrad, our 62 armies began to copy the methods of assault actions of the Germans. Moreover, in Russian, it is creative and effective. In the post-war regulations, there were clear instructions on the creation and tactics of action for assault groups. In particular, the 1959 Infantry Combat Regulations (squad, platoon, company) articles 106 to 109 give clear instructions to the commanders. In the Soviet Charters, there is almost no mention of actions as part of assault groups. BUSV 1974 (platoon, squad, tank) devotes only half a page to the tactics of the assault group (Article 98). In modern conditions, when hostilities are transferred from fields and open spaces to the cramped urban quarters, there is an urgent need to prepare subunits for actions as part of assault groups. The basis of training is the improvement of individual training and the coherence of actions of small units. After all, the actions of 3 assault groups of 10 people should provide at least 80-90 people of supporting and supporting units.
    1. Niccola Mack
      Niccola Mack 5 November 2016 10: 00
      See my answer to you above - this is the same interesting question! There it was necessary to write about it.
      I will additionally say about the "Instructions", which for some reason are attributed exclusively to Com. 11 Guards. Galitsky and his headquarters. In the direct assault on Koenigsberg, 2 ordinary (43rd, 50th) and 11th Guards Army took part. Assault teams were created in all armies.
      And in total:
      To storm the fortifications, 26 assault detachments and 104 assault groups were created - both from the composition of the rifle units, and from the engineer troops - ten engineer and engineer brigades, three assault engineer and engineer brigades, two motorized engineer brigades and one pontoon brigade.
      In addition, the chemical troops participated in the assault - 7 individual flamethrower battalions, a company of high-explosive flamethrowers and 5 individual companies of backpack flamethrowers. These units were distributed among assault squads and assault groups.

      Assault engineering and combat brigades are the reserve of the Supreme High Command (I do not know about the rest). Also, all participating large regiments and divisions of special power are RVGK.
      And let's close the question of Galitsky's or Vasilevsky's "amateur performance" in assault groups - everything was sanctioned and controlled by the Stavka. Although naturally - the initiative was almost necessary.
      Pretty interesting? according to what documents the "armored infantry" fought.
      They were supposed to be the main "specialists" in Königsberg.
  12. Partizan
    Partizan 4 November 2016 18: 18
    Low bow and eternal memory !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  13. GTYCBJYTH2021
    GTYCBJYTH2021 4 November 2016 19: 31
    The meat of the Russian soldier was always spared, that the tsar, that both Stalin and Zhukov .... Veliky Rossia, peasants in abundance ......... Such victories are sad .......
    1. Bloodsucker
      Bloodsucker 4 November 2016 19: 35
      Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
      Such victories are sad .....

      Are our Victories sad for you?
      So whine on the sidelines, why come here in the mock care of our soldier?
      1. Niccola Mack
        Niccola Mack 5 November 2016 17: 03
        The meat of the Russian soldier was always not spared - that the tsar, like Stalin and Zhukov

        If you want a good example of how the Americans "pitied" the fighters - specifically Omar Bradley - find information about the US Army offensive in the Hurthgen Forest at the end of 44.
        And see why the men of the Pencilville 28th Infantry Division called their emblem Keystone (Pennsylvania was sometimes called the “Keystone State”), in the form of a red trapezium with the lower base down, “a bucket of blood”.

        If you want to “pity” the fighters - this is not to the Germans and not to the Russians - this is to the French — to Marshal Petain.
      2. GTYCBJYTH2021
        GTYCBJYTH2021 8 November 2016 04: 28
        But if you were in those or similar assault groups, you were under bullets and bombs, you wouldn’t bark now in the waste of your yard ........
  14. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 4 November 2016 19: 38
    "Alas, even at the end of the war, the Red Army was not able to train fighters for such units. However, the combat experience of soldiers and officers by that time already allowed to speak of them as trained and persistent fighters."
    All of my dead relatives perished in the first year of the war. "Plugged the holes" with their lives, how sad it is to realize. And, father, fighting from the first day lived to the Victory. And, he went a lot - from Brest to Stalingrad and back all the way to Yugoslavia. Imagine just walking on foot. Ah, the fathers fought. And he said that before the offensive, units were withdrawn to the rear for preparation. Especially for city action.
    They did not "pour" people into battle like coffee into the millstones of a coffee grinder.
  15. Warrior-80
    Warrior-80 4 November 2016 19: 47
    Such guys would be in Syria, in a week Alep would be free
  16. midshipman
    midshipman 4 November 2016 19: 59
    The Red Army used assault groups during the liberation of Tikhvin on the Leningrad Front on December 8, 1941. I published the story "The Wanderings and Return of the Tikhvin Icon of the Mother of God" about these events. I personally met and talked to the commander of one of the groups, the commander of the reconnaissance company, in 1957 in the village of Khamonotvo, Volkhovsky District, Leningrad Region. I have the honor.
  17. Vasilij Pereira
    Vasilij Pereira 4 November 2016 23: 22
    The very first fortification in the north of East Prussia was the so-called "Koenigsberg nightgown". It was the high bank of the Deima River, turned into a solid fortification. Then, there were the forts of the outer bypass, during the capture of which the tactics of encirclement and siege by small assault groups were used. The troops moved on, and these groups "smoked" the Germans from the forts with ordinary tar and diesel fuel, pouring the mixture into the ventilation ducts. Gas masks did not "hold" carbon monoxide and the Germans gave up quickly enough. As the Fuhrer of German youth of Konigsberg Wagner said: "The weak Russian fortress of Sevastopol held out for 250 days! We will hold on, no less!" and was mistaken for 244 days! Königsberg was taken in less than a week! But ... no less fierce battles were fought on the Frisch Nerung Spit, from Pillau, now Baltiysk, towards today's Poland. Almost all public transport was brought there, buried in the ground and a fortified area was created. The Germans, especially the Waffen SS and the Gestapo, waited there for transport from "mainland" Germany and resisted more fiercely than in Königsberg itself. The last to surrender was the "Der Dona" fort, in the center of the city, where the amber museum is now located. But, one of these forts, in my opinion, Fort 12a, which is near the Kaliningrad-Moscow railway, had to be defended by Soviet soldiers after the war, in the late 40s. This fort contained ammunition and weapons of the First Moscow-Minsk Division, and the guard guarding this fort was attacked by the "forest brothers" from Lithuania. First, they tried the warehouses in Insterburg (Chernyakhovsk) - nothing happened and they went away unnoticed. And here, they took off all the outer sentries, if my memory serves me, 17 people died there, and then, they went for a breakthrough because, only having burst inside, they could dictate their terms! But, they were not allowed by one machine gunner sergeant! With five wounds, he did not let them rush inside. I won't lie, but for this, he seems to have got a Hero! Well, and the "brothers" were crumbled by the troops raised by alarm. There was, however, one case of unauthorized entry into this fort, for which the "internal" sentry was tried. He, out of habit, shouted: "Stop! Who is coming?" but it was required to shoot without warning! Electricity in this fort went along the old German cable routes, so the wall "moved aside", a man looked out and, hearing a shout, jumped back. While they blew up the wall and entered the underground passage, the saboteur went 5-6 kilometers and went out in the area of ​​the railway bridge to the airfield, near the Pregolya River. They took him. There was practically no population, except for the families of the military and "recruited" in special directions, therefore, he did not manage to get lost.
  18. Captain Pushkin
    Captain Pushkin 5 November 2016 23: 32
    Quote: Amurets
    Quote: domokl
    Have you carefully read the article? It's not about the fact that they did not prepare the group, but the preparation of the soldiers of the Red Army. And the fact that from the end of January until April 5th was training was an indisputable fact. As well as the participation of the assault brigades created in the year 43

    Yes! I agree with you. Here is a link to the 1943 assault engineering brigades
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    Photos from the post on the link.

    Father fought in the 1st Guards Assault Engineer-Sapper Brigade. Fighters threw protective shields (as in the photo) after the first battles - it was inconvenient and difficult to fight in them. And the helmets of the stormtroopers were not held in high esteem - when they met with the Americans in April 1945, all the soldiers of his company were in caps. Unlike the Americans, who were all wearing helmets.
    1. vova1973
      vova1973 19 January 2017 16: 42
      Why did you get the idea that helmets are not held in high esteem at you sometime the earth fell from the sky after an explosion or in a room run without a helmet in dust and smoke. Immediately understand what the helmet is for.
  19. Captain Pushkin
    Captain Pushkin 28 March 2017 17: 22
    Quote: vova1973
    Why did you get the idea that helmets are not held in high esteem at you sometime the earth fell from the sky after an explosion or in a room run without a helmet in dust and smoke. Immediately understand what the helmet is for.

    This is from the words of my father. Since 1943 he fought in the 1st Guards Mogilev assault engineering and combat engineer brigade of the RVGK, the 70th army of the 2nd Belorussian Front. Specialization - forcing water barriers, breaking through fortified areas, street fighting.
    And in the first battle he joined the 119 rifle division (the first formation, there were four in all, this was re-named the 17th Guards) on July 13, 1941. In the first turn, a German submachine gunner knocked a cap from his head. But, he never wore a helmet for all four years of the war - heavy, interferes with work and breaks through with a rifle and machine gun bullet (and the Germans had few machine guns) and not even large fragments.