Rosoboronexport expects strong demand for Caliber missile systems

The management of Rosoboronexport expects the great interest of foreign customers to the Caliber missile systems at the Indo Defense 2016 exhibition, which will be held in Indonesia from 2 to November 5, reports RIA News.

“Promising for promotion in the markets of the region are the anti-mine ship of the base zone of the 12701 project" Alexandrit-E ", a large landing ship based on the 11711 project, a rescue ship of the 21301 project. The great interest of foreign customers is expected to the Caliber-PLE (Club-S) and Caliber-NKE (Club-N) rocket systems, tested in combat conditions ”, - stated in the release of the company.

The press service stressed that as part of the show, the Russian delegation planned a large business program, “in particular, meetings with representatives of the government, the armed forces and the business community of Indonesia and other countries of the Asia-Pacific Region (APR) are expected”.

It is also noted that "Indo Defense" is one of the largest exhibitions in the APR. The region accounts for about 40% of Russian military exports.

“Rosoboronexport brought to the exhibition the newest, but combat-tested and in-demand military products for the ground forces, air defense forces, air force, navy, special forces,” the company’s deputy general director Sergei Goreslavsky said.

Comments

[St Petrov]

Greed wakes up. I want only myself. Such a situation - and they are only doing a hundred and half a year so far and maybe less, maybe a little more - but still I want more and only myself.

I feel as usual who the hell will help (CSTO catch a stone in your garden) - we will be alone with our fleet and army against enemies.

[vovanpain]

Quote: c-Petrov

Greed wakes up. I want only myself. Such a situation - and they’re doing only a hundred and half a year, maybe less, maybe a little more - but still I want more and only myself. I feel like hell who will help (CSTO catch a stone in your garden) - we will be alone with our fleet and army against enemies

My colleague agrees with you, first you need to ensure your Armed Forces, but ..... greed didn’t wake up from you, but those who sell it all.

[Giant thought]

In the light of the successful launches of our Caliber by barmaley in Syria, many countries will want to get hold of such weapons, albeit in an export version.

[Deniska]

I agree with you colleagues, but the country needs not only "calibers" but also money. And the money for the "calibers" will be good ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: s-t Petrov

and they’re doing only a hundred and half a year so far, maybe less, maybe a little more - but you still want more and only yourself.

For export, it’s not at all the Caliber that we showed in Syria, but its export version CLUB-K cut in TTX ... the export version can hit a maximum of 300 km. That is a very simplified version. And therefore, in the manufacture of export rockets will be much easier.

[Wiruz]

, and its export-trimmed CLUB-K trimmed in TTX ... the export version can hit a maximum of 300 km

By the way, an interesting situation. After all, you can’t sell cruise missiles with a range of more than 300 km for export, but for some reason this doesn’t stop the Americans. Maybe Russia, then it is worth offering foreign buyers a longer-range version of 3M14E? With a range of about 800, for example. Any interest in her will be higher

[NEXUS]

Quote: Wiruz

Maybe Russia, then it is worth offering foreign buyers a longer-range version of 3M14E? With a range of about 800, for example. Any interest in her will be higher

Not at all. 800 km is a strategic range. See how Europeans react to Iskanders, while the Macedonian has a range of only 500 km.

Quote: Wiruz

Any interest in her will be higher

Interest is already there. The KLAB-K complex will be in demand anyway. And the denyuzhka will not be bad for us.

[Wiruz]

Yes, the Macedonian has nothing to do with it. It flies 290 km "cut" and is enough for him. I say, why shouldn't our potential allies sell 3M14E with increased range?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Wiruz

Yes, the Macedonian has nothing to do with it. It flies 290 km "cut" and is enough for him. I say, why shouldn't our potential allies sell 3M14E with increased range?

Hmm ... well, let's think together ... India is developing Bramos based on Yakhont ... I am sure that soon, on the basis of these technologies, the Indians will have many new really good missiles. China ... we already share technology with them, and therefore in 5–10 years China will have its own and no worse than ours. Maybe Brazil? Dangerously, maybe technology can go to mattresses ... CSTO members? So we deliver our complexes to them and they don’t sweat much.

[Wiruz]

You need to earn money in a foreign war, no matter how vile it may sound. India, together with Russia, works on BrahMos, but this other rocket, although capable of hitting the ground. India, as far as I know, does not have its own subsonic strategic cruise missile, unlike China. And the relations between these countries you yourself know what.
Brazil? Well, theoretically this is possible. Although almost poorly trusted. CSTO members full-fledged complexes are not supplied, I mean Iskander, missiles Caliber, etc.
And interest, a missile with an almost strategic range, can cause Iran (although it will have to wait in 2020), Algeria (it stubbornly seeks to dominate North Africa), Egypt, the countries of the Asia-Pacific region, etc.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Wiruz

And interest, a missile with an almost strategic range, can cause Iran (although it will have to wait in 2020), Algeria (it stubbornly seeks to dominate North Africa), Egypt, the countries of the Asia-Pacific region, etc.

In this case, a very shaky question will be with Israel. So here, too, there are pitfalls.

[Wiruz]

In this case, a very shaky question will be with Israel. So here, too, there are pitfalls.

I’ll write to you in PM what should be put on the opinion of Israel

[Duke]

Missile complex Club-K

[svp67]

Rosoboronexport expects strong demand for Caliber missile systems

Yes, yes, more and more countries are asking for our "Calibers" to fly to them.
Honestly, I don't think it's worth exporting yet. Very few countries have such technologies and, accordingly, have something in service. Should we expand their "tight circle". Experience shows that everything in the world is not stable, today the state is peaceful, but neutral, and tomorrow it is our enemy, and even with such a formidable weapon.

[Alexap]

Caliber is expensive, if I remember correctly, like a few harpoons. Someone will buy it, except our MO.

[Voyager]

The more we sell, the cheaper the price tag will be.

[Wiruz]

Caliber is expensive, if I remember correctly, like a few harpoons. Someone will buy it, except our MO.

It is not entirely correct to compare him with Harpoon, but that is not the point. The caliber, in fact, has no competitors in the market, well, except for its Chinese counterpart. Tomahawks and Storm Shadow because no one just sells.

[Sagitta]

What about American TOMAHAWKS?

[KaPToC]

Quote: Sagitta

But what about American HOMOGAWS?

What about tomahawks?

[Banishing liberoids]

Who would not hurt to send "calibers" for free, so to speak on their own, to your home.

[dipole]

All offensive new weapons should be taboo. These are anti-ship missile systems, tactical ground-to-ground complexes, guided bombs, air defense systems, at least they should last 10 years in the country of development in the country.

[Wolka]

to have our Caliber does not mean to be invincible, we must still be able to fight, in this matter, as an example, the Saudis have fairly modern offensive and offensive weapons, but all from the Yankees, however, they are defeated by the Hussites in Yemen, using models of Soviet weapons times ...

[Zaurbek]

There is still such a moment as ensuring the operation of the system. Satellites, software, service. If you are armed with Harpoons and the Kyrgyz Republic, it is quite easy for the United States to make them just blanks without providing service and satellite systems ... plus, most likely, there are bookmarks that impede firing at certain models of ships and some territory. And then there is an alternative proposal ... And the business is not bad.

[Wiruz]

anti-mine ship of the base zone of project 12701 "Alexandrite-E", large landing ship based on project 11711

It’s foolish, as for me, to have the illusion that foreigners will be interested in ships whose construction there are problems

[donavi49]

Well, Alexandrite in the French version of mine action can come in. The project is quite breakthrough and interesting in the classroom.

11711 - It is doubtful that anyone will be interested. Well, except for political reasons on credit, in the load. For at a price it will not be lower than 40 million in any way = Makassar’s average equipment at 2 platforms, 4 helicopters, a dock camera for LCAC / 2 TDKs, 40 units of equipment and 400 landing men. At the same time, the Makassars are baking for 1,5 of the year. Over in the 2014 year, the Philippines only signed a contract for the 2 ship - they’ve already owned their head in the fleet since June, and Davao Del Sur — launched in September.

[KaPToC]

Quote: donavi49

For at a price it will be no less than 40 million = average Makassar equipment for 2 sites, 4 helicopters, a docking chamber for LCAC / 2 TDK, 40 pieces of equipment and 400 landing personnel. At the same time, Makassary is baked for 1,5 years.

Well do not sculpt a transport barge in a year and a half? And 11711 is still a warship, a tank landing, with the possibility of a direct landing from the ship.

[demiurg]

Sale of defense industry products for export is a direct investment in independence. This research and production, and real money and really breakthrough technology. And highly skilled workers.
Moreover, in crisis situations, export products can be left to yourself.

[weksha50]

"Rosoboronexport expects high demand for Kalibr missile systems"...

Naturally ... Marketing moves were carried out in a timely and competent manner ... Especially the first one, on Putin's birthday last year ...

[Old26]

Quote: s-t Petrov

Such a situation - and they are only doing a hundred and half a year so far and maybe less, maybe a little more - but still I want more and only myself.

This year there were approximately 100 "Calibers" and "Onyxes" produced per quarter. That is about 4 hundred a year. Even if 50/50 then 200 per year.

Quote: Wiruz

After all, you can’t sell cruise missiles with a range of more than 300 km for export, but for some reason this doesn’t stop the Americans.

The decision to export controlled goods is the exclusive prerogative of each participating State. The MTCR is not an agreement in the full sense of the word. This is a published set of principles. But in relation to other countries - here it is different. Equipment, engines and missiles are sold to developed countries. Countries of the third world - here everyone will "fit". For example, South Africa once concluded an agreement to stop the creation of missiles falling under category 1. For this, certain export restrictions on it were lifted.
And the "Tomahawks", and you probably meant them, the Americans sold only to England. For 18 years, 120 Tomahawks were delivered, which were equipped with three types of British nuclear submarines

Quote: Wiruz

Maybe Russia, then it is worth offering foreign buyers a longer-range version of 3M14E?

First of all, you need to look to whom to offer, whether then this weapon will turn against us or our allies.

Quote: NEXUS

Interest is already there. The KLAB-K complex will be in demand anyway.

Complex "CLAB-K" is like a stillborn child. No one will buy what is not in your arsenal. And Russia does not need it. It was designed for underdeveloped countries that cannot have their own navies sufficient to defend the country. We took them regularly to exhibitions, but according to ready-made reports NO ONE complex CLUB-K was not delivered to anyone. Only "Caliber-PLE" (Club-S) and "Caliber-NKE" (Club-N) will be taken to the exhibition,

Quote: Alexap

Caliber is expensive, if I remember correctly, like a few harpoons. Someone will buy it, except our MO.

In the export version of EMNIP, something like 4-6 million dollars apiece

Quote: dipol

All offensive new weapons should be taboo. These are anti-ship missile systems, tactical ground-to-ground complexes, guided bombs, air defense systems, at least they should last 10 years in the country of development in the country.

After that, you can not carry and offer it at the exhibition. Firstly, no one will need it anymore; secondly, it’s more expensive to flip a beak on the international arms market. We will not sell for 1 years, our competitors will sell, and then we will lament: Why do not they take our weapons, it’s the same
The truth is out of date in 10 years

[tnk1969]

Mine ship? They are almost gone in the Russian fleet, and they are going to build them for export. In all fleets, their composition has long been morally and physically outdated. After all, if they are not there or they simply can’t even go to sea, all the ships of the Russian Navy are in very great danger ...

[cannabis]

Our trade has been somewhat odd since Soviet times. We impose our products, supply them on credit, wait a long time for payment, and after twenty years we generously forgive and write off debts. Since 2000, $ 140 billion has been "forgiven".

[Leeder]

Quote: c-Petrov

Greed wakes up. I want only myself. Such a situation - and they are only doing a hundred and half a year so far and maybe less, maybe a little more - but still I want more and only myself.

On the other hand, if there is a guaranteed volume of sales, this will firstly lower the cost of the unit, secondly, run-in production facilities, and thirdly, replenish the budget.
Do not sell weapons for export, this is stupid. The main thing is to establish production capacities, it will be necessary, we will send all exports with wood and we will sculpt for ourselves. If only the production was fine-tuned perfectly.

[Vlad5307]

This is not greed - with a big budget strain, remember how the soldier survived in the 90s - everything is for sale. Today, not everything is for sale, at worst in half. Maybe then the factories will work not in one shift, but in three. You look and cleaning managers will decrease and sensible working hands on the defense industry will be added.