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Konashenkov explained what the “cardinal difference” of situations in Mosul and Aleppo is

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The Russian Defense Ministry commented on the statement by State Department spokesman John Kirby about the “radical difference between the situation in Aleppo and the operation in Mosul,” RIA News.




“The radical differences in the situation in Syrian Aleppo and operations to storm the Iraqi Mosul really exist. And we are ready to specifically name them Admiral John Kirby, ”said Defense Minister Igor Konashenkov.

“In Aleppo for more than two weeks the Russian VKS and Syrian aviationwhile Mosul is daily hit by American strategic bombers B-52N, as well as F / A-18 and Rafal-M aircraft from the Dwight Eisenhair and Charles de Gaulle aircraft carriers. Over the last day alone, the coalition made 25 sorties, inflicting 21 attacks on Mosul and its suburbs, ”he said.

In addition, "in Aleppo, Russia and the Syrian authorities have organized six humanitarian corridors for civilians who are ready to leave the city, but cannot do this because of the mining of approaches and the shelling of militants."

"In Mosul, we hear about the impending" assault "of urban neighborhoods inhabited by civilians with foggy but extremely disturbing consequences due to mass casualties," said Konashenkov, adding that in this case, "we are not talking about any humanitarian corridors, as if a million city is inhabited by terrorists alone. "

Also in Mosul, the coalition declares an “iron ring”, while in Aleppo there are 2 corridors left for the militants to exit.

And finally, representatives of the UN, the Red Crescent, other international organizations and journalists work in Aleppo, and “by a strange coincidence, there are neither journalists, nor activists, nor volunteers of“ white ”or other rainbow shades of“ helmets ”in Mosul. No one, ”said the general.

“All that the American and European media can afford is the vigorous censored reports about the extraordinary successes of the coalition and the upcoming great victory over the terrorists, not confirmed by real shots,” he added.

“And after this, John Kirby, insulting, declares that, unlike Aleppo, the operation in Mosul is held in strict accordance with International Humanitarian Law?”, Concluded Konashenkov.
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  1. nnm
    nnm 2 November 2016 08: 55
    +16
    Why are we as if making excuses ??? I don’t remember what the United States would explain there ... we are just doing our thing silently, we are bending our line and that’s it. Let all the necessary explanations be given by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. After all, no matter what we say or show - the opinion of the West will not change it in any way - then the meaning is from air shaking?
    1. The black
      The black 2 November 2016 08: 58
      +12
      The ancient NATO wisdom says: "Take care and protect Russia! For there is no Russia - there are no billions from the Congress for defense." smile
      1. Giant thought
        Giant thought 2 November 2016 09: 04
        +13
        Everything is clear, clearly and intelligibly explained on the military, and, as they say, the fool is understandable, but for some reason it comes to exceptional for the exceptional.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 2 November 2016 09: 14
          +7
          but for some reason it comes to an exceptional tight.

          Well, where does it come to them? The big brother told them: "From now on, everything black is white and vice versa." They looked and answered: "And really - white." It is not fashionable to have an opinion different from the opinion of mattresses in the West. For disagreement - they sprinkle and fasten, for consent - they send nishtyaks and cookies.
        2. Scoun
          Scoun 2 November 2016 09: 30
          +3
          Quote: Thought Giant
          Everything is clear, clearly and intelligibly explained in the military

          Well, I don’t know I don’t know .... if we compare the statements of all the Stoltenberg Breedloves .... then they don’t look like the statements of the "military")))
          And our Konashenkov with his statements can even keep Churkin in the UN company ... where he can clearly and intelligibly explain to each "xy from xy".

          “All that the American and European media can afford is the vigorous censored reports about the extraordinary successes of the coalition and the upcoming great victory over the terrorists, not confirmed by real shots,” he added.
          “And after this, John Kirby, insulting, declares that, unlike Aleppo, the operation in Mosul is held in strict accordance with International Humanitarian Law?”, Concluded Konashenkov.

          Ah yes Krasava !!!
        3. Warrior with machine gun
          Warrior with machine gun 2 November 2016 10: 45
          +6
          because they are exceptional de-bills))
      2. just exp
        just exp 2 November 2016 12: 32
        0
        not true.
        Russia needs to be destroyed, because Russia is real, and not just in words, can destroy the exceptional.
        and they’ll come up with a threat to knock out lards. terra, rabid possums, communist Swaziland or Martians.
        Americans will believe everything that the box will show them.
    2. Gray brother
      Gray brother 2 November 2016 09: 10
      +1
      Quote: nnm
      This will not change the West in any way - then the meaning is from a shaking of air?

      According to the West, Aleppo is completely composed of schools, hospitals and markets. Now they’ll recruit content around Mosul, and when the operation in Aleppo begins, they will shoot back from the Americans with these kakahs.
      Not all are playing with one goal.
    3. Finches
      Finches 2 November 2016 09: 14
      +16
      I don’t think we are making excuses, this is part of the information war! Something like a speech by a lawyer and a prosecutor before a jury ... The same truth goes by the wayside, and the ability to present the necessary information and facts comes to the fore only in a light favorable to ourselves ... Unfortunately, there is in our mentality prejudice against blatant lies, in contrast to the usurious essence of the Anglo-Saxons, whose public deception is the natural tradition of Western civilization!
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 2 November 2016 09: 18
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        Unfortunately, in our mentality there is a prejudice against blatant lies,

        And we don't really need to lie, the "partners" themselves mow the current into the path.
      2. Samoyed
        Samoyed 2 November 2016 09: 49
        +6
        So it comes from religion. They traded indulgences there, a very profitable business. Paid and no sins. Not that Orthodoxy. Sinned and repented all my life.
    4. aleksfill
      aleksfill 2 November 2016 09: 15
      +1
      We consider how many times the opposition and ISIS fighters violated the ceasefire.
      In general, an incomprehensible situation with explanations, comparisons, which looks like an excuse:
      making excuses means to blame.
    5. vovanpain
      vovanpain 2 November 2016 09: 16
      +10
      Quote: nnm
      Why are we as if making excuses ???

      Why are we making excuses? We simply use their methods, poke them in their arrogant Saxon face and do it right. hi
    6. volot-voin
      volot-voin 2 November 2016 09: 28
      +5
      Quote: nnm
      Why are we as if making excuses ??? I don’t remember what the United States would explain there.

      Domestic wisdom says that not having eaten bed bugs and cockroaches, it keeps the nerves of all previously spent forces and means. Armistice with terrorists and trade with the United States are at hand only for the enemies of Russia.
  2. Andrey K
    Andrey K 2 November 2016 08: 56
    +15
    Konashenkov explained what the “cardinal difference” of situations in Mosul and Aleppo is ...

    Is there any sense "to throw beads in front of pigs" ...
    1. nnm
      nnm 2 November 2016 08: 57
      +4
      ... not the slightest sense ...
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 2 November 2016 09: 02
      +2
      Quote: Andrey K
      Is there any sense to throw beads before pigs ...

      There used to be such torture: water continuously dripped on the victim’s head. After a while, from this, a person went crazy.
      I hope that our truth will someday get into the head of the West, if we continually hammer it to them.
      1. nnm
        nnm 2 November 2016 09: 05
        +1
        but the meaning ??? they are already crazy. seriously and for a long time)))
      2. Andrey K
        Andrey K 2 November 2016 09: 11
        +5
        Quote: SRC P-15
        There used to be such torture: water continuously dripped on the victim’s head. After a while, from this, a person went crazy.
        I hope that our truth will someday get into the head of the West, if we continually hammer it to them.

        The West is stuffing its womb through the head, it is impossible to put any thoughts into it, at least for the moment ...
      3. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 2 November 2016 09: 36
        +1
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        I hope that our truth will one day come to our head in the West, if we continuously crush it with it

        Not sure. Leopard change his spots.
    3. Samoyed
      Samoyed 2 November 2016 09: 50
      0
      Not all pigs are there.
      1. Andrey K
        Andrey K 2 November 2016 10: 25
        +6
        Quote: Samoyed
        Not all pigs are there.

        Of course not everything, there are also swineherds ...
    4. koshmarik
      koshmarik 2 November 2016 12: 25
      +1
      There is no excuse, just Kirby expressed his point of view, and Konashenkov his. But the American is at the level of chatter, and we are using facts.
  3. Hubun
    Hubun 2 November 2016 08: 59
    +1
    Another petty attempt to declare its exclusivity. . What the Yankees do is always right and legal. If we had done the same in Aleppo, the whole world would have buzzed about war crimes and aggression of the Russian Federation
  4. hirurg
    hirurg 2 November 2016 08: 59
    +2
    C'mon, Kirby is the talking head.
    And it does not have a listening function.
    The processor does not pull.)))
  5. Siberia
    Siberia 2 November 2016 09: 01
    +7
    Quote: nnm
    Why are we as if making excuses ??? I don’t remember what the United States would explain there ... we are just doing our thing silently, we are bending our line and that’s it. Let all the necessary explanations be given by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. After all, no matter what we say or show - the opinion of the West will not change it in any way - then the meaning is from air shaking?


    We are not making excuses. We poke the Yankees into their own verbal diarrhea. And time after time ...
    Ps: have you heard the expression "Water - wears away a stone"? It's the same here ...
    1. nnm
      nnm 2 November 2016 09: 06
      +1
      What kind of stone ??? The Stone of Consciousness of the Western Military Command? Yes, they just know and understand everything perfectly. And no one will ever convey these words to the "stone of consciousness" of Western citizens ...
    2. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 2 November 2016 10: 10
      0
      In the meantime, will there be anything left to grind the stone from the Syrian army?
  6. silverwolf88
    silverwolf88 2 November 2016 09: 02
    +8
    Information warfare is an equally important aspect of accompanying our actions in Syria ... this difficult matter must be continued ... whoever needs to hear ... the rest will know ... that we are aware of what is happening ... and their "noodles" do not pass ...
    1. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 2 November 2016 10: 06
      +1
      The information war is indeed an important aspect, but against the backdrop of military success. not inaction. And what happens if someone in the west hears our truth? Let's say the general public hears, and so what? The Syrian soldiers and civilians who died at the hands of the barmalei in Aleppo cannot be returned.
  7. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 2 November 2016 09: 09
    +5
    Well no. Konashenkov correctly commented on everything. Highly. The media activity of not only our Foreign Ministry, but also the Ministry of Defense is very pleased. Suppose we only keep 10% of the media market abroad and broadcast only in the Republic of Tatarstan, but still, posts and reposts of our reaction to the statements of the states are reaching.
    My dear military, well, send to Aleppo Termitarory-bmpt. Well, let them be tested in urban battles. Suddenly, this is an antidote against the militants entrenched in the city building? Suddenly this will revolutionize the tactics of urban combat and will give advantages to both the Syrians and our valiant military.
    1. evge-malyshev
      evge-malyshev 2 November 2016 09: 43
      0
      Quote: mojohed2012
      our valiant military.

      Where did you see "our gallant military" in Aleppo?
  8. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 2 November 2016 09: 28
    0
    Yes, all the Yankees themselves understand, but, the essence of their barking is to pour more dirt on Russia. Not all of them are unhealthy there.
  9. Stinger
    Stinger 2 November 2016 09: 29
    +1
    representatives of the UN, the Red Crescent and other international organizations and journalists work in Aleppo, and “in Mosul, by a strange coincidence, there are no journalists, no activists, no volunteers of" white "or other rainbow shades of" helmets "

    All these "crescents" the habits of their lovers of democracy know, and therefore do not climb.
    1. region58
      region58 2 November 2016 13: 11
      0
      volunteers "white" or other rainbow shades of "helmets"

      Notably, he stabbed them. Rainbow ... in my opinion, LGBT people have not yet been called ...
  10. jovanni
    jovanni 2 November 2016 09: 41
    +2
    It is necessary to create a dozen more RT so that the western man in the street gets up in the morning and goes to bed in the evening with the correct information about the situation in the world. Well, we are listening to Konashenkov here on VO, but what about the others ?! But what about our western "partner", well, in the sense of an average man? So he lives with garbage in his head! I'm worried about him ...
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 2 November 2016 10: 29
      0
      At whose expense will we create a dozen more? Will we freeze pension savings again or will we introduce a new tax ?! Their sources will reasonably say to the Western man in the street that NATO in Mosul is bombing ISIS, while Russia in Aleppo is a moderate opposition fighting the "bloody dictator" Assad. Clever Konashenkov omitted this aspect.
  11. Siberia
    Siberia 2 November 2016 09: 44
    +1
    Quote: nnm
    What kind of stone ??? The Stone of Consciousness of the Western Military Command? Yes, they just know and understand everything perfectly. And no one will ever convey these words to the "stone of consciousness" of Western citizens ...

    I disagree with you. The explanation of our military is, so to speak, "heavy artillery", which gives "weight" to the statements of our Foreign Ministry. And the more often we use it on business, the more sense there is in the information war! Any informational impact, no matter how insignificant it may seem, still has its effect on the other side. If we stick to our line (and our rhetoric is becoming more and more aggressive and sarcastic), then eventually this information will reach the minds of ordinary citizens of the US and the EU.
    1. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 2 November 2016 10: 02
      0
      And what happens if this information reaches the minds of ordinary citizens of the United States and Europe. Yes, they, belching after a hearty dinner, will think. Well, this pig Obama. So what?
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 2 November 2016 10: 30
        0
        Quote: mikh-korsakov
        So what?

        And nothing! They still believe that Boeing over Ukraine was shot down by ours, despite all the statements of our military and the Foreign Ministry
  12. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 2 November 2016 09: 55
    0
    Everyone knows what is really happening ... it's part of the information war! Russians are, as always, bad guys, and the USA, as always, are good guys .... do not care what they think - we need to work slowly and bend our line, without any excuse.
  13. VOLCHOXURAL
    VOLCHOXURAL 2 November 2016 09: 55
    0
    Quote: evge-malyshev
    Quote: mojohed2012
    our valiant military.

    Where did you see "our gallant military" in Aleppo?

    ??? How is it where? And who controls the gumcorridors, and who recently made a night raid to rescue a large group of civilians deep into the territory of terrorists, in fact, having completed a military operation.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 2 November 2016 10: 32
      0
      Quote: VOLCHONOKSURALA
      and who recently made a night raid to rescue a large group of civilians deep into the territory of terrorists, in fact, having committed a military operation.

      where are you sorry, read it? In those comic-book news that to the right of the page titled Picture of the Day, pop up periodically?
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 2 November 2016 10: 50
        +1
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        where are you sorry, read it?

        And these shots probably confirm your knowledge in comics.
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 2 November 2016 11: 19
          0
          Quote: Scoun
          And these shots probably confirm your knowledge in comics.

          I asked a clear and concrete question about a recent raid with the rescue of civilians - in what place did you read my post? Your videos are out of place here, absolutely. For June 30th! (June Carl). Comics pop up there regularly, about another breakthrough in Syria, with some intricate storyline.
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      3. Scoun
        Scoun 2 November 2016 10: 56
        +2
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        In those comic book news

        You probably mean such "comics"?
        I would like to remind many that not only the videoconferencing forces are fighting in Syria, but also those who do not often fall into news reports and often fall only on the occasion of a tragedy.
        Remember Alexander Prokhorenko and his Feat.
  14. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 2 November 2016 09: 59
    0
    Tired of constant boasting in their own nobility, while not barring the barmaley to do whatever they want. For some reason they drove the old cruiser, they say to show the flag. And that it was impossible to show him in the Barents Sea, all the more funny. that the ship is old. The fundamental difference between the situation in Mosul and Aleppo is that Mosul will cleanse terrorists from the hands of Iraq and the Kurds, and the Syrian army will be defeated without air cover, and the barmaley will break into Aleppo. At the same time, Konashenkov will argue, hinting at how noble we are that we ourselves do not kill civilians, but at the same time, in essence, allowing the barmales to do so with impunity, as it should be for fools with a clean neck. What is stupidity or treason?
  15. VOLCHOXURAL
    VOLCHOXURAL 2 November 2016 10: 09
    0
    Quote: Jovanni
    It is necessary to create a dozen more RT so that the western man in the street gets up in the morning and goes to bed in the evening with the correct information about the situation in the world. Well, we are listening to Konashenkov here on VO, but what about the others ?! But what about our western "partner", well, in the sense of an average man? So he lives with garbage in his head! I'm worried about him ...

    I'm worried about him too. I would organize a teleconference between Kirby’s performance hall and the info center in Hmeimim, let them talk in real time in the presence of all the journalists. It would be interesting how Kirby would have twisted out when our general pressed him against the wall.
  16. Hort
    Hort 2 November 2016 10: 21
    0
    daily hit by US strategic bombers B-52N,

    there, in theory, nothing should remain from Mosul
    1. vladimirw
      vladimirw 2 November 2016 11: 53
      0
      Well, something is left if losses continue
  17. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 2 November 2016 10: 24
    +1
    The head goes around in shame for how we get out, calling for help our own nobility. We really have nobility. but it would be nice to do what they came for - to wet the barmalei. In the statements of our politicians, it’s slipping that the refusal to use aviation was made because Putin was directly told that if the aircraft continues to work in Aleppo, then the planes will be shot down. Indirect evidence of this was the appearance of a Belgian aircraft near Aleppo, where he had no reason to be in military affairs. Putin did not want or could not aggravate the situation. He was probably right. But then it was necessary to tell the people directly about this, and not to arrange a circus tent with nobility. I am sure that if Putin told the truth. then the people would support him!
  18. Region39
    Region39 2 November 2016 10: 35
    +2
    No matter how stupid and empty it seems, I mean the reaction of the RF Ministry of Defense or the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to some statements of the same Kirby, but I still need to respond ... it's like poking a snout into the puddle of his own. After all, wherever Americans spit everything ... all their actions take place in strict accordance with international law and humanitarian law as well. If a liar is crowded from time to time in a lie, then in the end they stop believing his words.
    1. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 2 November 2016 11: 18
      +1
      The whole tragedy is that the liars themselves have power there. Remember at Brecht. Sheep go in a row, beat the drums, the skin for them give the sheep themselves. I am an old man. And I remember well how events unfolded around the Vietnam War. The Americans worked there. what they wanted. carpet bombing. napalm and much more. Our propaganda worked to its full potential. People went to anti-war rallies in America, but nothing changed. and it began to change when the Viet Cong deported Americans and coffins began to come to America in the thousands. Then it worked. tucked away by tail. But the Americans have learned, and the barmalei are fighting against us. No one in America will be sad if they die there, and the Arab friends of America will not be affected by the death of the barmaley, because they are fanatics. We, too, have learned lessons and the Syrians are fighting for us, but the Syrian army is exhausted by a five-year war.
  19. masiya
    masiya 2 November 2016 11: 33
    +2
    Quite unexpectedly, not a real resemblance emerged:
    1. vladimirw
      vladimirw 2 November 2016 11: 52
      +1
      funny and interesting
    2. just exp
      just exp 2 November 2016 12: 43
      +1
      and what do they have in common in appearance except glasses? nationality and skin color?
  20. vladimirw
    vladimirw 2 November 2016 11: 52
    0
    Why make excuses in the information space for smelly pind ... you have to attack them and publish materials in all languages ​​of the world
  21. Region39
    Region39 2 November 2016 20: 25
    0
    Quote: mikh-korsakov
    The whole tragedy is that the liars themselves have power there. Remember at Brecht. Sheep go in a row, beat the drums, the skin for them give the sheep themselves. I am an old man. And I remember well how events unfolded around the Vietnam War. The Americans worked there. what they wanted. carpet bombing. napalm and much more. Our propaganda worked to its full potential. People went to anti-war rallies in America, but nothing changed. and it began to change when the Viet Cong deported Americans and coffins began to come to America in the thousands. Then it worked. tucked away by tail. But the Americans have learned, and the barmalei are fighting against us. No one in America will be sad if they die there, and the Arab friends of America will not be affected by the death of the barmaley, because they are fanatics. We, too, have learned lessons and the Syrians are fighting for us, but the Syrian army is exhausted by a five-year war.

    I agree with you. The absence of a direct clash does not mean that there is no war between Russia and the United States. It was precisely Russia, specifically the USSR, that helped the Viet Cong to pacify the states, where the Americans got directly. In Syria, they get it through the barmaley, and again Russia helps in this, too, in the information space.
  22. Kondratko
    Kondratko 3 November 2016 10: 48
    0
    and “in Mosul, by a strange coincidence, there are no journalists, no activists, no volunteers of“ white ”or other rainbow shades of "helmets"
    _ other ### aces. )
    - Slid under the table. ) Our good fellows, both diplomats and military, as always subtly and correctly - "not in the eyebrow, but in the eye"!
    And, such comparisons (about "aces") only raise the status of striped mattresses, I suppose they are proud, let them say thank you! )))