Chinese manufacturers will present their own rocket container complex

As part of the XI International Airshow China 2016 Salon, which starts on November 1 in Zhuhai (Guangdong Province), the Chinese developer plans to introduce a multi-purpose combat container complex. The universal launch module, which is used in the complex, is intended for the preparation and launch of missiles from special container compartments. Reports about it "Military-Industrial Courier"with reference to Chinese sources.

The Chinese complex can use various types of missiles, as well as ammunition for the MLRS. In particular, we are talking about the so-called anti-aircraft missile WS-43. The stated distance of the destruction of the target of such a rocket is up to 60 km.

In fact, we are talking about the option of using a combat complex with a “surprise” rocket. After all, in fact, the conditional enemy, in respect of which the installation of container type operates, does not know a priori what kind of ammunition will be used in a given situation - whether it is a missile or a guided missile.

The Chinese manufacturer, in fact, recognizes that the Chinese "know-how" is a peculiar version of the Russian combat missile system Club-K. Like the Club-K, the Chinese complex can be installed on ships, railway platforms or trucks, depending on the goals and objectives. This allows you to conduct a covert relocation of the complex, as well as its application in those points, for example, of the world ocean, where the naval reconnaissance is not conducted as a conditional enemy.

Russian Club-K:

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[aleksfill]

And whether it was ours to advertise these developments?

[dmi.pris1]

Here and without a poster, this idea lay on the surface.

[cniza]

Our idea, but the Chinese are looking for their way, while it’s hard to say how justified the placement of such weapons in containers is.

[DIMA45R]

but the Chinese are looking their way

- assorting and copying someone else's ...

[NIKNN]

I don’t understand .. WHAT is this ???? nazyynie came up with .. "KILL ALL"

[Giant thought]

The Chinese are still kleptomaniac, resembling stealing ideas, technologies. So here it was not without borrowings that Chinese philosophy by and large encourages.

[hrych]

Quote: aleksfill

And whether it was ours to advertise these developments?

Definitely needed, there is a mistress of the seas and her fleet will hit every container The main thing is to suggest an idea. Of course, the most serious KR Club is an expensive weapon, not everyone can afford it, or purchase it in sufficient quantities, so the Chinese are slapping the budget uncontrolled Kasams , and to increase the likelihood of hitting MLRS. Let the hegemon burn the earth (water) under his feet, in every port, on every coast, the concept of an unsinkable aircraft carrier also disappears into oblivion. Their bases can be attacked by container ships, warehouses, tractors. As the saying goes: "Long live the world revolution!"

[hirurg]

I do not think that the Chinese development will go away for ... from firecrackers.

[Sagitta]

Quote: hirurg

I do not think that the Chinese development will go away for ... from firecrackers.

But you say it for nothing. They actively copy modernize and long ago began to independently invent. They, like locusts, began to actively displace other companies, both Russian and European, from all markets !!!

[hirurg]

Well, if you want, on your knees. And be afraid.

[NIKNN]

Quote: hrych

Definitely needed, there is a mistress of the seas and her fleet will touch every container. The main thing is to suggest an idea. Of course, the most serious KR Club is an expensive weapon, not everyone can afford it, or purchase it in sufficient quantities, so the Chinese

It’s hard to disagree.

[GSH-18]

Chinese manufacturers will present their own rocket container complex

Yuhhhuuu! Give another copy-paste from the RUSSIAN CLUB-K !!! With Chinese tricks!

[Sergey333]

If you do not scare the enemy in time, then there is too much probability that he will attack, considering that the enemy is too weak.

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: aleksfill

And whether it was ours to advertise these developments?

But how are you going to sell these complexes if you don’t advertise anything?
Club-K was primarily exported, unlike the times of the USSR

[NIKNN]

Quote: prosto_rgb

But how are you going to sell these complexes if you don’t advertise anything?
Club-K was primarily exported, unlike the times of the USSR

Well, how do you answer ???
Firstly, military development is carried out primarily for its defense (well, who will finance it then?), Well, then commerce ... or something that farted something ????

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: NIKNN

Firstly, military development is carried out primarily for its defense (well, who will finance it then?), Well, then commerce ... or something that farted something ????

it was like that during the USSR
but in the days of "effective" managers - alas

[OLD FART]

Well, Xeroxes, damn it!

[hirurg]

Not yet given. Although we would like to.

[LÄRZ]

Airshow China 2016 ends November 6. Let's see who this development of the Chinese comrades will be interested in and who will conclude agreements and contracts with them. Anything is possible, but why not?

[dumpy15]

... already interested in Iranian and other comrades)

[hrych]

Quote: dumpy15

. already interested in Iranian and other comrades)

Iranian comrades themselves can take a can opener, well, grinder and shove the city guides In principle, the topic has gone, these dogmatic Russians ... and they say an Englishwoman is crap. Englishwoman shitting

[Mavrikiy]

[quote = grunt] [quote = dumpy15] In principle, the topic has gone, these doggy Russians ... and they say an Englishwoman is crap. Englishwoman shitting [/ Quote]
Well, an Englishwoman will soon be on ... They transfer their exchange banks to Hong Kong. As they were fluffy, they remain. And it’s a pity, the bills not paid ... (and they did not answer for Sevastopol)

[GSH-18]

Quote: Mavrikiy

And it’s a pity, the bills not paid ... (and they did not answer for Sevastopol)

They answered. The confirmation is the English military cemetery in the Crimea. I think the second time they have no desire

[dmi.pris1]

Well, okay, the container version was "taken" from us .. And the loitering ammunition? Did the Israelis fiddle around?

[GSH-18]

Quote: dmi.pris

Well, okay, the container version was "taken" from us .. And the loitering ammunition? Did the Israelis fiddle around?

Nah, they invented it themselves!

[dmi.pris1]

Photo "Club-K" very interesting ... Game of thimbles, find where the ball is in this heap?

[Sagittarius]

In general, this complex does not represent anything extraordinary.

[ProkletyiPirat]

so here it’s not a ball! and in thimbles! another banana republic will buy 100 TEU and you go figure out what the Russians sold there, 100 * N Kalash or 100 * X RCC

[Holoy]

The Chinese military-industrial complex in my opinion has only one buyer, Pakistan ...

[Vladimir 38]

The Chinese comrades are striding widely, it is clear that they are copying, but this is somewhat annoying. Nearby 2 lard people with a lack of clean water and resources and at the same time quickly and successfully build up military potential ..

[OLD FART]

Quote: Vladimir 38

The Chinese comrades are striding widely, it is clear that they are copying, but this is somewhat annoying. Nearby 2 lard people with a lack of clean water and resources and at the same time quickly and successfully build up military potential ..

We work with the Chinese ...! They think they will not dare to contact the Russians, I smell genes ... And together we will turn the mountains!

[Vladimir 38]

Yes, but as our commander-in-chief says, it is not intentions that are important, but the potential .. Today we have a common "partner", but tomorrow it is not clear ..

[Vladimir 38]

And yet, in words, we are already almost brothers with the Chinese and this is good, but the best manifestation of fraternal feelings would be an investment in our economy. But the Chinese are in no hurry to do this.

[OLD FART]

Quote: Vladimir 38

And yet, in words, we are already almost brothers with the Chinese and this is good, but the best manifestation of fraternal feelings would be an investment in our economy. But the Chinese are in no hurry to do this.

China has always been very careful in "friendship", but now they understand that without Russia they will simply be crushed ... China has little experience in political and military confrontation in the world ..! We have known these Western devils for a long time and they beat their muzzles more than once if they were impudent! ... Well, technology, resources are not small .. It's better to be friends with us!

[Scalpel]

Who will crush them? Everyone needs China as a consumer goods workshop, and not as a war zone.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Vladimir 38

the best expression of fraternal feelings would be an investment in our economy. But the Chinese are in no hurry to do this.

Apparently they are well aware of the investment climate of our country!

[Vladimir 38]

The climate is normal in comparison with other countries where China invests in Africa, Germans, French, Japanese invest, and the Chinese do not .. This is what causes distrust of comrades from the Middle Kingdom

[LÄRZ]

Actually, the "highlight" of this exhibition should be the first public display of the Chinese 5th generation fighter J-20An interesting device. Here are some of its features:
Fighter J-20 equipped with high-wing with a trapezoidal shape. The total wingspan 12,8 meters, moreover, the wings are offset to the rear of the machine. To control the flight of the rear of the wing is equipped with ailerons and flaps. A feature of 20-th model is the lack of a tail stabilizer, their function is performed by the canard horizontal form. This plumage is located on the fuselage of the machine for the air intakes. The tail fin mounted to the outer two off-axis.
The hull of the aircraft has a modern, classical layout, which allows achieving high flight performance. The front part of the device is equipped with modern radio-electronic equipment, here is also equipped the cockpit. The middle part of the J-20 fighter is designed primarily for armament. Here there are holders for rockets, bombs and other types of aircraft weapons. The internal location of the main mass of impact power has allowed to reduce the visibility of the machine and increase aerodynamic qualities. The weight of the empty aircraft reaches 17,6 tons, and the take-off weight reaches 35 tons, at the moment there is no exact data on the maximum weight at take-off.

The whole process of separation and flight provides a powerful power plant, which includes two turbojet engines. The first prototypes were equipped with engines of the AL-31F class, which were delivered to China from Russia. Serial models in full-scale construction will be equipped with engines such as Xian WS-15, over which the designers of China are working. By all accounts, such engines in the afterburner mode will be able to provide thrust in 150 kN. Previously, it was said that J-20 can climb to an altitude of 16 kilometers and have a maximum speed of 2100 km / h, in addition, talked about the maximum range of flight in 3,4 thousands of kilometers. But in connection with the change in engines in the power plant, these parameters can significantly change.

Between Rosoboronexport and the Chinese side, recent contracts have been recently concluded for the supply to China of Russian aircraft engines AL-31 and D-30. We are talking about three-year contracts for the supply of about a hundred engines of each type, the manager said. The cost of this number of engines can be about $ 1 billion, says Konstantin Makienko, deputy director of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies. The cost of only one engine of the AL-31 type most likely has already exceeded $ 5 million per unit, the cost of the D-30 is hardly less, Makienko believes. The official representative of Rosoboronexport declined to comment. AL-31 engines of several modifications have also been supplied to China since the 1990's. - First, as part of the Su-27 and Su-30 fighters, and from the beginning of the 2000's. and for installation on a Chinese J-10 fighter and Chinese copies of the Su-27 and Su-30. At the same time, China has developed its own WS-10 engine for these purposes, and it is actively developing its own D-30 class engine for the Y-20 military transport aircraft.

Continued purchases of Russian aircraft engines for Chinese military aircraft may mean that, despite the considerable efforts of the Chinese industry, it still fails to develop their analogues of the same degree of reliability, says an expert at the Institute of the Far East of the Russian Academy of Sciences Vasily Kashin. According to him, AL-31 engines can be used both for replacing engines with the remaining Russian fighter aircraft remaining in the air forces of the People's Liberation Army of China, and for equipping vehicles of their own production. We can assume, the expert continues, that more reliable and more resource-rich Russian engines are better suited for military service and training in peacetime. As for the purchase of D-30 engines, it is obvious that the total production of H-6K and Y-20 will be at least 100 units for each machine and so far they are designed for Russian engines. According to Kashin, new purchases can also mean that China is not satisfied with the quality of its engines for fourth-generation fighters, which means that there remains the possibility of cooperation with Russia in the field of engines for fifth-generation fighters. It is already known that the latest Chinese J-20 fighter was tested not only with Chinese engines, but also with one of the AL-31 modifications, the expert concludes.
The chassis system has a classic three-legged scheme; during flight, all pillars fit into the fuselage niches. All racks have one wheel each, and the nose wheel has a smaller diameter. As for electronic equipment, its composition and qualities were not disclosed due to the high degree of secrecy. But it’s still known that J-20 has a new control system that has multiple redundancy

[padded jacket]

Quote: LÄRZ

Actually, the "highlight" of this exhibition should be the first public display of the Chinese 5th generation fighter J-20

There are actually a lot of "nails and studs" from the land, I personally liked the new howitzer (in any case, new to me)

[padded jacket]

Light cross-country chassis with various weapons.

They are also represented
with 120 mm mortar
with 107 mm MLRS
with an 81-mm mortar, apparently a copy of our "Cornflower"

[padded jacket]

Chinese version on the theme of the Italian "Centurio-2"

[LÄRZ]

Quote: quilted jacket

There are actually a lot of "nails and studs"

Thanks for the info! In fact, I took information about this fighter from the official website of the newspaper "Renmin Ribao", but there was not a word about everything else. Thanks again.

[MarioG]

All this means that with a mess, civilian vessels will be drowned.

[hrych]

Quote: MarioG

All this means that with a mess, civilian vessels will be drowned.

With a mess, they are already drowning.

[Aviagr]

That's why we need robotic underwater arsenals of missiles, which for the time being will wait at a depth for some time and float at the signal of near-surface gliders-targeting-targeting devices.
There will also be glider guards, etc. - i.e. the whole set to provide uninhabited service of an armada of submarine missile carriers.
And enti "container transportation" - will not have time roll the barrel - right: in case of turmoil, EVERYTHING will be drowned! Including - because of such attitudes, which multiplies all international agreements by "0".
So, the PL-arsenals of missiles with accompanying gliders are the future of ocean wars.

[Banishing liberoids]

Best of all, the Chinese will be able to copy their own kind.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Expelling Liberoids

Best of all, the Chinese will be able to copy their own kind.

Some and it really doesn’t work.

[Observer2014]

Looking at the photo. Just one question. Any rockets? Will the container ship do plane adjustment?

[Scalpel]

For different buyers. Whoever has enough money for that, they will deliver it.

[Zaurbek]

The people panicked from Club S. And now, in the place of the NATO countries, I would start to panic for real. The system went to the masses .. and in whatever Yemen it is possible to accidentally get onboard Chinese onyx from the container

[APASUS]

I wonder how the guidance of the MLRS system on the high seas is carried out.

[sabakina]

with a surprise rocket. After all, in fact, the conditional enemy in relation to whom the container-type installation is operating does not know a priori what kind of ammunition will be used in this or that situation - whether it is a missile or a guided missile.

It seems to me that the conditional opponent will be deep in the drum, that he will clatter on him ...

[Sobol]

Slamzili means "handsome"

[Incvizitor]

Here Yap, Koreans and their master should be concerned about such news.

[kolkulon]

Nimble people. They can be admired. But I am confused by the volley fire system in the container. Turn over the container to aim at the target?

[Operator]

The Chinese have a small container - 20-foot.

We have long switched to 40-foot. And there is absolutely no sense in secretly placing short-range missiles in the frontline zone. Another thing RSD (both winged and ballistic) - put on autotrailers and forced the enemy to bomb the entire motor transport network of the country from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok and from Murmansk to Crimea - there are not enough bombs, do not go to a fortuneteller.

To place four ballistic RSDs in an 40-foot container with a flight range of 5500 km, each of them must have dimensions within 1,2x12 meters - this is quite an achievable task.

PS Hillary Clinton: "We will erase Russia and its vassals from the face of the Earth. Not only from the political map of the world, but in general" (C) - from an interview with FOX News.