Electric Tanks

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Current trends in the automotive industry suggest that in the coming 5-10 years there will be an almost explosive transition of all cars to electric traction. It is said that in Europe diesel engines will generally be banned for environmental reasons from 2025, and after that, petrol engines.

Electric Tanks




NATO and the United States have already openly declared their aggressive intentions, and we still have to go to Europe. After they once again try to attack us, we will have to liberate the whole of Europe from its illusions in its invincibility, as it was already more than once (in 1812 and 1945).

As is known, almost the absolute majority of cars in our military use these very environmentally dirty diesel and gasoline engines. And I am sure that NATO and the United States are fully aware of this state of affairs in our armed forces. Intelligence is something they have hoo at what level they work, not like ours.

If such draconian measures are taken in Europe, then it is quite natural that our military will not be able to go there, especially on tanksthat run on diesel and gasoline fuel and do not comply with the environmental standards of the European Union. We are not a country that breaks laws! So, I think, the time has come very seriously to raise the issue with our designers for the urgent transfer of all road transport and combat vehicles, especially tanks, to electric traction.

But the worst thing is that all this may be a well-planned special operation by NATO intelligence and the CIA. Especially the CIA. There such inventors and deceivers are sitting, which is not even funny. So, I think they have the following plan: right before the attack on us, they should urgently adopt in the European Parliament or somewhere at the same level this same law banning diesel or gasoline engines individually or together. And this will be an accurate indicator of the fact that soon they will attack us. Hence, our intelligence officers each morning must carefully read their newspapers - from cover to cover. And even better - send directly to the European Parliament or to the place where such a law can be adopted, of one’s person or even two under the guise of parliamentary correspondents. Yes, it will be better. Because in a democracy, especially a European one, they will negotiate between factions for a few more months and bargain about who will have what. And we will already know what is being prepared against us, and we will have these very few months to check everything once again and recharge all the batteries well, especially on tanks, so that it’s enough for Paris itself. Yes, and there still need to ride, to drive into Nice. In short, the batteries must be kept ready and fully charged.

And further. We have very little time left! I'm pretty sure that all the talk about 2025 of the year is disinformation. But what if they adopt such a law in 2020? Are we not ready? We must hurry, dear! Hurry up, but do not advertise, silently. So that no vrazhin did not know, and even did not lead with a mustache. In the media, on the contrary, we are still not ready to report only on new diesel engines ... And then, as soon as they accept the law, we all pull out our hidden batteries and insert them! Imagine what the effect will be?

They will immediately understand: they didn’t run into this. And, most likely, it is just awesome to attack. Our military will have no limitations anymore: they can even go to Berlin, even to Paris. With London, however, problems can be, since the tanks do not float. Oops, I forgot, there are also floating tanks, so additional batteries will be required for them. This is so, the General Staff of the note.

True, they can make a knight's move, as the classic said, and urgently, right in a day, adopt a completely different law - already about the ban on electric motors. This can play a trick on us. Therefore, our General Staff must keep in mind this possibility and leave about half of all the cars on diesel and gasoline. (I’m absolutely confident in our generals, they’ve all probably already counted up and, most likely, they have been collecting and storing batteries for tanks for a long time, but don’t tell anyone about it. That's right. No one should know about this. Let readers keep silent too .)

However, the law of the day - an unlikely option. In a democracy, especially of the European type, abrupt movements are practically excluded. Most likely, we will have to wait again for several months. This is not Russia, where the president has only hinted that it would be nice to do this and that, and it has already been done, all the necessary laws have been passed.

It turns out that they cannot defeat us anyway: governance is slow! But still, the batteries need to be prepared and kept at your side. So, just in case. I believe in our final and inevitable victory.
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  1. +7
    2 November 2016 05: 49
    Current trends in the automotive industry suggest that in the coming 5-10 years there will be an almost explosive transition of all cars to electric traction. It is said that in Europe diesel engines will generally be banned for environmental reasons from 2025, and after that, petrol engines.

    If such draconian measures are taken in Europe, it is only natural that our military will not be able to go there, especially on tanks that run on diesel and gasoline and do not comply with EU environmental standards.

    I would like to know which "green inspector" would dare to bring claims to our military, especially tankers?
    1. +5
      2 November 2016 05: 53
      Current trends in the automotive industry indicate that in the next 5-10 years there will be an almost explosive transition of all cars to electric traction.
      nonsense ... TNCs will never allow this while there is oil ...
      There are wars for oil fields, and you're talking about canceling. HA!
      1. idr
        +1
        2 November 2016 06: 44
        Left behind my friend ...
        https://www.carthrottle.com/post/no-diesel-cars-i
        n-paris-by-xnumx-and-london-might-ban-them-too-why
        -the-world-now-seems-to-hate-diesels /

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3834674/G
        ermany-s-federal-council-bundesrat-pushes-force-E
        U-BAN-petrol-diesel-vehicles-2030.html

        http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/future-cars/
        news / a31097 / german-government-votes-to-ban-intern
        al-combustion-engines-by-2030 /

        etc.
        1. 0
          3 November 2016 03: 07
          You explain it to our motorists - why is it cold in the car!
      2. +1
        2 November 2016 12: 06
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        nonsense ... TNCs will never allow this while there is oil ...

        Taxis are not industrialists, but financiers. Therefore, if tomorrow they decide to leave oil, then oil will be everything. No, of course, it will not bend at all, but the scale will be much more modest.
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        There are wars for oil fields, and you're talking about canceling. HA!

        They come for a few other reasons than you think.
    2. idr
      0
      2 November 2016 06: 51
      Yes, no one can do it ourselves, everything must be in accordance with the law. Just so that later it doesn’t work out, as with Germany and the Baltic states ... You understand that they ruined the environment.
    3. +15
      2 November 2016 08: 55
      Quote: Amurets
      I would like to know which "green inspector" would dare to bring claims to our military, especially tankers?

      And our tanks are not afraid of dirt and there is nothing to scare us with ecology. wassat
      1. jjj
        +2
        2 November 2016 11: 30
        As it turned out, the fate of the turbines. In this regard, the proposal to modernize the T-80 fleet looks very promising.
  2. +3
    2 November 2016 07: 24
    In order not to spoil the environment, it is necessary to use hydrogen-powered engines, not batteries. Fuel cells rule. Moreover, the mileage is almost the same as the classic ICE, which battery-powered vehicles still have a long way to go.
    1. idr
      +1
      2 November 2016 07: 34
      The press is still silent about hydrogen. Although also an option. It may be necessary for our scouts to track the pace of deployment of hydrogen gas stations. But the ban and diesel will still be a warning.
      1. +5
        2 November 2016 08: 11
        What hydrogen should be used is hydrogen bombs: they are environmentally friendly, practical and delivered in a couple of minutes to anywhere in Europe.
        1. idr
          0
          2 November 2016 08: 16
          Why are we doing Armata then? And the President will not approve of this, it’s how he spread Kiseleva ...
    2. +4
      2 November 2016 08: 19
      Concerning "electric motors" from the point of view of ecology - they are puffing their brains. To generate electricity for the movement of electric cars, it is necessary to "burn" more fuel than an internal combustion engine, and even more so a diesel engine. Converting energy from one type to another is always costly.
      1. idr
        +2
        2 November 2016 08: 28
        Quote: igordok
        Concerning "electric motors" from the point of view of ecology - they are puffing their brains.

        Yes, it doesn’t seem to be powdered ... You’ll soon expect the release of batteries with an energy density of 40 times higher than that of Tesla, Airbus has already released an electric plane ... so everything goes to that. They will use solar energy, and then thermonuclear ...
        1. 0
          2 November 2016 08: 51
          Quote: iDr
          Yes, it seems that they do not powder ...

          It would seem that solar panels are super-environmentally friendly. But if you think about it, solar energy in the absence of batteries would mostly be reflected from the Earth, and with a solar battery, this energy will be converted into heat, and will heat a long-suffering planet. request
          1. idr
            0
            2 November 2016 10: 09
            Well, no, solar panels convert energy into electrical energy, which is stored in batteries, and from the batteries it is already powered by tank electric motors ...
            1. 0
              2 November 2016 12: 04
              Quote: iDr
              it is already powered by tank electric motors ...

              Motion is the overcoming of friction, and this energy ultimately becomes heat.
          2. 0
            2 November 2016 15: 42
            Quote: igordok
            for the most part, it would be reflected from the Earth, and with a solar battery, this energy will be converted into heat, and will heat a long-suffering planet.

            there is a negligible fraction of the Earth's albedo.
            Maybe we won’t fall into the Small Glacial. One large volcano and our entire greenhouse effect will blow off like a speck of dust.
            1. 0
              2 November 2016 15: 47
              Quote: Retvizan
              there is a negligible fraction of the Earth's albedo.

              The sea begins with a drop. feel
              If now Greenpeace is pushing on a light bulb.
        2. +3
          2 November 2016 10: 01
          And at whose expense will these batteries be disposed of? It's like a story with energy-saving lamps with mercury, someone profits from sales, and someone a headache where to put them later. So it will be with batteries, the cost of their disposal will weigh on the budget, then is on us all.
        3. 0
          3 November 2016 00: 58
          Quote: iDr
          You’ll soon expect the release of batteries with an energy density of 40 times higher than that of Tesla

          This is physically impossible, or rather chemically, in the end there is the same law of conservation of energy.
          Quote: iDr
          and then fusion ...

          Is thermonuclear something related to temperature and poisons?
          1. idr
            0
            3 November 2016 01: 26
            Attention!

            http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/130380-future-bat
            teries-coming-soon-charge-in-seconds-last-months-
            and-power-over-the-air
            1. 0
              3 November 2016 01: 37
              What kind of crap is your link? Circle of inventors of the perpetual motion machine.
      2. +1
        2 November 2016 08: 54
        Quote: igordok
        To generate electricity for the movement of electric cars, it is necessary to "burn" more fuel than an internal combustion engine, and even more so a diesel engine. Converting energy from one type to another is always costly.

        I agree with you. To obtain 1 kW of electricity from a generator, 1,35 kW of mechanical power must be applied. Converting electricity to mechanical energy also requires power.
        1. idr
          0
          2 November 2016 09: 31
          The energy losses in generators and engines are relatively small, and their efficiency is close to unity (to 100%).

          http://www.physel.ru/-mainmenu-29/----mainmenu-47
          /505-s-174---.html
          1. +2
            2 November 2016 10: 43
            Quote: iDr
            The energy losses in generators and engines are relatively small, and their efficiency is close to unity (to 100%).

            You only consider the power inside the generator or engine i.e. efficiency. Https: //topwar.ru/1517-zenitnye-bashni-nacist
            ov.html
          2. +1
            2 November 2016 12: 15
            Quote: iDr
            The energy losses in generators and engines are relatively small, and their efficiency is close to unity (to 100%).

            Efficiency is close to unity, only for a transformer, of the order of 98%, for electric motors of the order of 90%, even for wires there is a loss. And the path of electricity is very long, and it will run rather well.
    3. +3
      2 November 2016 10: 35
      Everything is much simpler. In the first echelon, funds will be spent not on internal combustion engines, but on external combustion engines - turbojet and rocket engines. There, and with the ecology of the engines, everything is quite good, and with mileage at one "gas station", and it is not a problem to slip past the green inspectors ...
    4. Cat
      0
      2 November 2016 20: 07
      Oh well. Offer more manual traction. Somewhere in a hundred meters, a dream will arise about the use of horses, bulls, or at least donkeys. laughing
  3. +2
    2 November 2016 07: 37
    the author’s even suffered, but what about the oil business, who dares to ruin him, then dares, well, if he dares to not live for a long time, immediately the orange come with revolution from the exceptional and put under the external control the letter G
    1. idr
      0
      2 November 2016 07: 44
      Don’t worry, everything will be fine with oil and gas, no one is going to replace anything with platmas, fertilizers and other petrochemical products ...
    2. +1
      2 November 2016 08: 12
      Quote: Taygerus
      but what about the oil business, who will ruin it, then dare

      Well, the oil business is not only fuel, but all sorts of derivatives, so no one is going to destroy it
  4. +3
    2 November 2016 08: 20
    YYY ... Zadornov from the hospital-Well, they are stupid ... Or ... Zadornov died. Long live Zadornov ... laughing
  5. +9
    2 November 2016 08: 30
    Cool banter smile Russians are going to fight the EU, observing all its environmental and not only norms smile Tanks without exhaust, airplanes with reduced noise levels, with transponders constantly turned on, flying only in designated corridors and with a flight task previously approved by their controllers, assault rifles with silencers, bombs that do not give splinters and do not spoil buildings, etc. etc ... In general, the war is scheduled, from 9 to 17 with a lunch break and a quiet hour, and only on weekdays ...
    1. idr
      +3
      2 November 2016 08: 32
      You immediately threw so many new topics ... Thank you. We must take in co-authors ...
    2. +1
      2 November 2016 15: 45
      Quote: dzvero
      Russians are going to fight the EU, observing all its environmental and not only norms

      military tourism ... motor rally on tanks in Europe, protracted biathlon competitions ..
      they don’t pass through the border without it. Apparently, this is exactly what is holding back.
  6. +1
    2 November 2016 08: 37
    ZIL-131 was remembered on the 92nd gasoline. Let's go to Europe, they say, and to be ready for their gasoline.
    1. 0
      2 November 2016 11: 24
      Zil-131 ate 76 gasoline. Could even drive around 72.
    2. 0
      2 November 2016 13: 47
      Probably the Urals was remembered. smile
  7. +6
    2 November 2016 08: 51
    Although not on 1 April, the author respects! For a long time on VO there was no such thin material. It was especially touched that our non-environmentally friendly tanks would not have the right to travel across Europe ... But I just stupidly think that Poland and Hungary are quietly pushing their tanks to Kiev, not a business but a delicate calculation.
  8. 0
    2 November 2016 10: 37
    The author does not understand the topic. Mandatory rules regarding mechanical wheeled vehicles (in Russian cars) do not apply to military vehicles and tanks.
    As for commercial and personal vehicles, in the Russian Federation they are not able to independently develop and produce even uncompetitive trucks, buses and "member vehicles" that meet these mandatory requirements. The only attempt, "Yo-mobile", failed, because the deal on the acquisition of Opel by Sberbank did not take place, and then V. Antonov's attempt to buy SAAB - the United States blocked both deals, and V. Antonov was also ruined. Completely.
    The real problem is that as a result of the depreciation of the ruble, purchasing power has fallen sharply, and recently, the longevity of the main components of automobiles has been structurally reduced and they are being designed as non-renewable. The vehicle complies with the mandatory requirements for toxic emissions only for the first 50000 miles. One should expect the adoption of laws prohibiting the operation of cars beyond the mileage corresponding to this mileage.
    1. idr
      +1
      2 November 2016 10: 46
      I recommend reading the article again or even two ... So that the hidden meaning would be clear ... Well, you understand ... not everything can be laid out like that ... Even in VO.
      1. 0
        2 November 2016 11: 25
        Yes, it’s clear .... ours somewhere smudged the secrets of Nikola Tesla.
        1. 0
          2 November 2016 15: 47
          and already connected to the world broadcast?
          So you give teleportation with permeability right away (as in one novel)
  9. +1
    2 November 2016 11: 50
    Oh yeah!!! Give the batteries !!!! wassat
    How to dispose of environmentally friendly "batteries"? wink
    And clean electricity where are you going to mine? Environmentally friendly spell?
  10. 0
    2 November 2016 12: 01
    The author was unable to humor and it turned out stupid. Electric motors are the future. And there is nothing funny about it.
    1. +1
      2 November 2016 12: 40
      If you are talking about electric transmission for military vehicles, it is quite possible.
      Well, a complete rejection of ICE in the military sphere .... to say the least, unscientific fiction
      1. 0
        2 November 2016 13: 57
        Quote: Spade
        If you are talking about electric transmission for military vehicles, it is quite possible.

        And there was something like a gearbox in a box, they showed an armored personnel carrier on electric traction, in my opinion there was a hybrid power plant
        1. 0
          2 November 2016 14: 12
          Quote: sa-ag
          And there was something like a gearbox in a box, they showed an armored personnel carrier on electric traction, in my opinion there was a hybrid power plant

          Are you talking about "Krymsk"?
      2. 0
        2 November 2016 14: 14
        Quote: Spade
        If you are talking about electric transmission for military vehicles, it is quite possible.

        Not only. Also, an electric motor, more precisely a few.
        Quote: Spade
        Well, a complete rejection of ICE in the military sphere .... to say the least, unscientific fiction

        So far, fantastic. The future is reality.
        1. +1
          2 November 2016 14: 40
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Not only. Also, an electric motor, more precisely a few.

          Electric transmission is actually electric motors with corresponding units and assemblies ensuring their operation.

          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          So far, fantastic. The future is reality.

          And in the future. Batteries and will not be able to get close to the energy intensity of gasoline ever. At the moment, they, even the most modern and expensive, are less effective than banal firewood.
          The current record for a lithium-ion battery is 400 watt-hours per kilogram. Firewood has two to four thousand. Diesel has 11 thousand. Hydrogen has 33.6 thousand. But there is a storage problem.
          1. 0
            2 November 2016 14: 59
            Quote: Spade
            Electric transmission is actually electric motors with corresponding units and assemblies ensuring their operation.

            Transmission translated into Orthodox - transmission.
            Quote: Spade
            Batteries and will not be able to get close to the energy intensity of gasoline ever.

            They can. Give them time. Much of what previously seemed impossible became commonplace.
            1. +2
              2 November 2016 16: 05
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Transmission translated into Orthodox - transmission.

              Transfer of force from the engine to the wheels. Electric motors along with a running generator, a controller and electric energy storage devices are included in its composition. Moreover, the latter can be completely dispensed with, though this will increase the load on the internal combustion engine.

              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              They can. Give them time. Much of what previously seemed impossible became commonplace.

              I do not think that scientists can change the laws of nature. No matter how much time they give.
              1. 0
                2 November 2016 22: 39
                Quote: Spade
                Transfer of force from the engine to the wheels. Electric motors along with a running generator, a controller and electric energy storage devices are included in its composition. Moreover, the latter can be completely dispensed with, though this will increase the load on the internal combustion engine.

                You should probably do one thing, and not 4 at once. Something mixed all these transmissions and engines in my head in a heap. He wrote nonsense. hi
              2. 0
                2 November 2016 22: 44
                Quote: Spade
                I do not think that scientists can change the laws of nature. No matter how much time they give.

                But do not change the laws of nature. It is necessary to work with the design of batteries, with materials. Plus, move on the other hand to optimize the operation of devices and mechanisms from these batteries, to reduce spurious losses.
                1. 0
                  3 November 2016 01: 07
                  Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                  It is necessary to work with the design of batteries, with materials.

                  you are right as always, let's switch to nuclear batteries and everything will be type top.
          2. 0
            2 November 2016 18: 25
            Quote: Spade
            But there is a storage problem.

            diesel fuel reforming :-)
          3. 0
            3 November 2016 00: 33
            SW Shovels, your knowledge deprives the meaning of the life of uneducated hamsters such as the author of the article, as well as IS-80_RVGK2 and iDR.
    2. 0
      2 November 2016 13: 06
      There are, at least as of 2016. Ecology, yeah, yeah. The future - well, yes ...
      So what kind of materials will these magnificent batteries be from? And which power plants will provide all this splendor? In the field?
      Funny.
      1. 0
        2 November 2016 13: 37
        Quote: tanit
        So what kind of materials will these magnificent batteries be from?

        Of which it is necessary of these will be. Research in this direction is underway and there are serious advances.
        Quote: tanit
        And which power plants will provide all this splendor?

        The same as now. Change the battery and go. You can recharge in the field. All that is needed is a modular nuclear field power station and it is just around the corner.
        1. 0
          2 November 2016 14: 42
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Change the battery and go.

          Weight. How will they compensate for its growth by 27 times? Due to the reservation?
          1. 0
            2 November 2016 15: 07
            Quote: Spade
            Weight. How will they compensate for its growth by 27 times? Due to the reservation?

            Read less shovels about the impossibility of creating high-capacity batteries. With the development of methods of manipulating matter at the atomic level, a tremendous breakthrough in capacity growth will occur. Their reasoning is a simple extrapolation of the present into the future, which, as life shows, often turns out to be untenable. Remember the example of horse traction, which was supposed to flood large cities with dung, according to the grief of futurologists of the past.
            1. +1
              2 November 2016 16: 06
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Read less shovels

              These are not "nonsense", these are facts. And it's hard not to pay attention to them.
      2. 0
        3 November 2016 01: 10
        Quote: tanit
        And which power plants will provide all this splendor?

        The total capacity of all cars in the world is twice the total capacity of all power plants.
        Electric cars will go in large numbers after the introduction of thermonuclear power plants, and batteries (accumulators) are not needed in principle, trains, trams, and trolleybuses can do without them.
    3. 0
      3 November 2016 01: 03
      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
      The author was unable to humor and it turned out stupid. Electric motors are the future. And there is nothing funny about it.

      Yes, no one doubts, only this future is connected not with batteries at all, but very much with generators.
  11. kig
    +1
    2 November 2016 13: 22
    What to do with airplanes? Of course, they have recently become very environmentally friendly, but still ... In addition, the EU countries have very strict rules regarding the noise of jet engines, and have you ever heard how a supersonic fighter overcomes this same sound barrier? Yes, even at extremely low altitude? I assure you, if you have not heard this, it would be better if you never heard this! So we also need to do something with airplanes. What are your thoughts on this?
  12. 0
    2 November 2016 14: 12
    The benefits of the e-movement are quite far-fetched ... If we remove the subsidies and laws lobbying this business, then traditional engines will become more profitable. The future is soon in hybrids .. they can dramatically reduce the energy loss in the transmission
  13. 0
    2 November 2016 14: 42
    the author does not need to talk nonsense, let alone show his ignorance, if not ignorance on the topic being voiced ...
  14. +2
    2 November 2016 15: 02
    I read .. laughed ... Dear Author, a deep bow !!!!! environmental control of the attacking tank division !!!! fellow I haven’t read anything like it before ... but the future is with electric motors ...
  15. kig
    +5
    2 November 2016 15: 29
    The greatest impression was made by the commentators .... in all seriousness began to discuss the problems of electric movement ...
    1. idr
      0
      2 November 2016 16: 55
      Finally. And then I started a depression from hopelessness ...
  16. +1
    2 November 2016 20: 03
    Most of all I was finished off by attempts to give serious comments on this nonsense. wassat
  17. 0
    3 November 2016 00: 37
    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    Quote: tanit
    So what kind of materials will these magnificent batteries be from?

    Of which it is necessary of these will be. Research in this direction is underway and there are serious advances.
    Quote: tanit
    And which power plants will provide all this splendor?

    The same as now. Change the battery and go. You can recharge in the field. All that is needed is a modular nuclear field power station and it is just around the corner.

    Cosmic idiocy at the atomic field level. On such simpletons as you, Elon Musk made a fortune.
    1. idr
      0
      3 November 2016 01: 30
      Mask over all years has only losses ... True advertising is VERY much ...

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