Will there be bread queues in Russia?

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A lively discussion in the network was caused by a short grim article in the British edition of The Daily Squib. Its author, Frederick Constance, called the situation of the Russian economy catastrophic, and the country's political system - "half totalitarian." The main thing for the ruler of Putin - the rocket.

Will there be bread queues in Russia?




In the old British edition "The Daily Squib" (“Daily Pamphlet”) a note by Frederic Constance recently appeared. She made a lot of noise on the Internet and overwhelmed with dozens of comments. Some readers approved the theses of the author, others were indignant with the material.

The author calls Russia an "impoverished" country. In his opinion, the bear is now "in despair."

Putin is leading Russia back, “into Soviet poverty,” Constance is convinced. And for good reason he picked up a photograph entitled “Russians in line for a loaf of bread, 1987 year” to his material.

Does Putin have any way out? It’s probably not too late to “make the right decision” and save the Russian people, the publicist thinks.

However, economic statistics provide a bleak picture. It would seem that powerful Putin towers over his opponents. And at the same time, the Russian economy looks like a "bunch of smoldering rubles."

Sanctions and low oil prices have seriously weakened Russia and its economy, the journalist said. According to the World Bank, the Russian economy has shrunk by more than 40% compared to 2015 year. (The author does not indicate the period for comparison, although the 2016 year has not yet ended.)

According to Constance, the Russians, "cut off from the world economy, starve themselves." This is because they persist, despite the global restrictions imposed against them.

As in most other “half-totalitarian states,” the journalist continues, in Russia the military is in the first place. Therefore, Putin is putting forward the financing of his war. However, if such a strategy fails, the recession will intensify.

Keeping airplanes in the sky is not cheap. A rocket can cost as much as a Russian citizen earns in his entire life.

Unfortunately for Putin, writes Constance, this is the price of individualism in a globalized world. Globalism is so arranged that everything is closely intertwined in it.

Since the Ukrainian incident, Putin has shown himself to be a “bad boy,” but he still has the opportunity to lead the people out of the desert.

Actually, the author of the note finds two variants of behavior for the “bad boy”: continue to stand on his own, as it is supposed to be “good Russian”, and wait for the war, or rejoin the globalists.

In the second case, Putin would have to take a spot at the tail of the line: the West would have offered him a “probationary period for some time.” And not only that: it is likely that Putin would be forced to abandon Syria and Ukraine. But at least the Russian economy would recover again, says Constance.

"The choice is yours Vlad, death or life."


"The choice is yours, Vlad: death or life."

These words end the note of Mr. Constance in a British newspaper.

The following is a long tape reader reviews. We give some.

Someone Alexey who wrote “Squid” (squid) instead of “Squib” suspects that “The Daily Squib” serves the CIA or MI-6. However, in his opinion, such propaganda does not deceive anyone. “Russia is the most beautiful country in the world,” he believes.

The user under the nickname Tata Li believes that this text is “journalistic shit”, outraged by “its own lies”. “And now I want to know: the UK intends to attack my homeland?” - asks the reader. - If yes, then do not be hard. Russians don't give up. Never".

Mister under the pseudonym Trapster believes that in the end the Russians will collapse with their imperial manners. Why? When it comes to war, the West will oppose them with modern weapon. The Russians have no analogues, I'm sure Trapster. Those “murder machines” that are being developed in the West have already overtaken Russian technologies by 75 years. If the West has not announced such a weapon, then this does not mean that it does not exist, the reader ironically.

Someone Matt assures that if the “bastards commies” unleash a war, then NATO will “crush Russia like a piece of cake.”

The man hiding behind the nickname Russki baby killers, requires that the "Russian trolls", brainwashing polonium, "piss off". “Why don't you help the Putiners kill more children in Aleppo?” Crowd of Russian child-killers! ”This author swears. “Or how about shooting at passenger liners flying in the sky and killing innocent women and children?” “Go to hell,” the user concludes.

Further, Mr. Bonzer assures the public that Stalin "killed 62 a million people."

He is answered by Tata Li: “Personally killed, you forgot to add. And then he raped and ate. No, I first raped, then killed, and then I ate. No, I first ate it, then I raped it, then I killed it. ” Further, the reader requires either evidence about 62 millions, or recognition by the reader of her own stupidity or deceit.

Lestat Stella believes that other commentators obviously ignore something. After all, Russian reviews are "whole propaganda sections," she notes. The reader admits that for such propagandists there is neither poverty, nor problems, and everything is like in Disneyland. “They close their eyes,” she sums up.

As for the statements of Mr. Constance about the "impoverished" Russia, economists predict not a recession, but the growth of the domestic economy.

Recently, the head of the Bank of Russia Elvira Nabiullina saidthat in 2018-2019. Russian economy growth rates stabilize at 1,5-2%. However, at the same time, she notes that due to the heterogeneous dynamics of the indicators of Russia's economic development, it is too early to talk about the transition to sustainable growth rates.

The forecast of the International Monetary Fund is also known. Its representatives said that in the near future, the Russian economy could be out of recession and return to growth. "Fracture" is expected "as early as next year." This forecast was voiced in the IMF's semi-annual report on Central, Eastern and Southern Europe.

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    1. +23
      1 November 2016 07: 11
      you have to go take a queue for bread, otherwise you won’t get it! wassat
      1. +5
        1 November 2016 07: 18
        So it’s better to starve than to play to the tune of the West.
        1. +15
          1 November 2016 08: 41
          maks-101 hi
          So it’s better to starve than to play to the tune of the West.
          What other hunger? laughing The country comes first in the world in collecting wheat, a year later a maximum of two first places in collecting rice! (I'm shocked) I am silent about poultry, pig breeding and milk with beef! What a hunger! Specialist prices like a ruble were lifted up and held. Many oil fell. That’s the price of the ruble and a barrel of oil in 2001! laughing
          1. +29
            1 November 2016 09: 03
            Many have been grown, but for whom is this excellent grain? The answer is sad - selected grain is exported, revenue goes to oligarchs, and we get leftovers in the form of optimized taxes. For lovers of pilaf - everything will be exactly the same. About dairy products it’s better to keep quiet. The magicians learned to milk palms.
            1. +14
              1 November 2016 10: 20
              Grain for export, and the Russians are starving, apparently because the State Department is losing the information war in Russia because it hires such brainless creatures. Can you tell me the recipe for making hedgehogs?
              1. +4
                1 November 2016 20: 58
                In the glass there, ali in an ice-freezer, marinate for a day, the second, and roast over an open fire, until a golden crust is obtained ...
              2. +2
                2 November 2016 00: 18
                Quote: ando_bor
                ... Russians are starving ...

                Another year or two, and begin with such a government! You see, the Central Bank is concerned that consumer demand is not growing, while the accumulation of citizens is decreasing. And really, what would it be? laughing Not to impoverishment, by chance? lol
                Right some experimenters at the slaughterhouse.
            2. +5
              1 November 2016 10: 23
              Select grain is like, or excellent grain. How does it differ from irrevocable. The quality of the bread suits me. If YOUR Vavilov had not been killed, then in the USSR there would be no shortage of grain.
              1. +7
                1 November 2016 11: 12
                Quote: Mahmut
                The quality of the bread suits me.


                I am not here, I am out. Basically, bread of poor quality, all these loaves, is that for the people at 15-20 rubles, and bread for the rich - at 100 rubles, on the contrary, is of very good quality and is not called Russian-based baguette.
                1. +3
                  1 November 2016 13: 52
                  Quote: Thought
                  Quote: Mahmut
                  The quality of the bread suits me.


                  I am not here, I am out. Basically, bread of poor quality, all these loaves, is that for the people at 15-20 rubles, and bread for the rich - at 100 rubles, on the contrary, is of very good quality and is not called Russian-based baguette.

                  Disgusting quality recently, which is inexpensive, for the people.
                  Mold appears a maximum in a day
                  1. +8
                    1 November 2016 14: 07
                    At the beginning of the year, the assistant to the head of the Rosselkhoznadzor Alexei Alekseenko said that the quality of bread in Russia "is degrading before our eyes."
                    According to him, bakers even lobbied for the use of feed grain in their products.
                    http://www.zagolovki.ru/daytheme/hleb/03Jun2016
                    Why in Russia tasteless and low-quality bread
                    Russians eat bread made from feed wheat. That is, grains of low quality, fifth class, which are usually fed animals and poultry. That is why bread in Russia today is so low-quality and tasteless. Grain and bread producers openly admitted this, asking lawmakers to legitimize this semi-legal practice.
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxlPe4EFOZA
                    1. +3
                      1 November 2016 19: 48
                      Quote: The Bloodthirster
                      At the beginning of the year, the assistant to the head of the Rosselkhoznadzor Alexei Alekseenko said that the quality of bread in Russia "is degrading before our eyes."


                      it’s generally disgusting, if the Russian people are mistaken for animals and fed with fodder instead of human food, then there is a reason to express discontent and distrust to this power, and if Mahmud is satisfied with cattle feed, then this is his business and his level of culture.
                    2. 0
                      1 November 2016 23: 30
                      Quote: The Bloodthirster
                      Russians eat bread made from feed wheat. That is, grains of low quality, fifth class, which are usually fed animals and poultry.

                      In China, 80% of the population eats ... grasshoppers, does not even dream of "fodder" wheat, and how does fodder differ from ... non-fodder wheat? you can't eat it? Will you become a kid?
                      1. +1
                        2 November 2016 00: 45
                        Quote: KaPToC
                        Will you become a kid?


                        if you’re a goat, you can even chew on a quinoa, at least urinate from a hoof, and people should eat humanly, but this does not concern you.
                        1. 0
                          2 November 2016 00: 50
                          Quote: Thought
                          if you are a goat

                          Offended?
                          Quote: Thought
                          and people should eat humanly

                          Shops import what they buy, why do you buy bread for twenty for buying sausage for two hundred rubles?
                      2. +2
                        2 November 2016 01: 08
                        Quote: KaPToC
                        In China, 80% of the population eats ... grasshoppers, they don't even dream about "fodder" wheat

                        Have you been to China? Or just dreaming like that?
                        In fact, according to the end of 2015. in terms of accumulated wealth, the average Chinese is richer than the average Russian ~ 3,7 times. He is slightly poorer than the average Chilean, but slightly richer than the average Greek. And their bread of feed wheat has not been eaten there for a long time.
                        If you need “to have more people and not a high standard of living,” switch to Indians.
                        1. 0
                          2 November 2016 14: 16
                          Quote: rjxtufh
                          the average Chinese is richer than the average Russian ~ 3,7 times

                          These are your speculations, the figure is taken from a flashlight, why not a hundred and fifty times?
                        2. 0
                          2 November 2016 15: 26
                          Quote: KaPToC
                          the figure is taken from a flashlight,

                          Study this "lantern" yourself if you wish.
                          https://www.allianz.com/v_1474281539000/media/eco
                          nomic_research / publications / specials / en / AGWR2016e
                          . Pdf
              2. +2
                1 November 2016 12: 54
                Quote: Mahmut
                If YOUR Vavilov had not been killed, then in the USSR there would be no shortage of grain.

                Yeah .. another fake.
                In recent years, two conflicting myths from the field of the history of biological science in the USSR have been actively promoted in journalistic literature. One of these myths smudges academician Lysenko with mud, turning him into an ignorant villain and villain. Another glorifies academician N.I. Vavilov, making him a super-great genius of all time. If I wrote about Lysenko several times already, trying to clean off dirty blotters from his name (http://biblioteka-dzvon.narod.ru/docs/Mironin_Ab
                out_Lysenko.pdf)
                Some believe that Vavilov was a brilliant scientist, decades ahead of world science. This is easier to judge from published scientific works of Vavilov (http://vigg.ru/istorija-instituta/muzei-ni-vavil
                ova / vavliov-bibliography /). The list shows that Vavilov very rarely published original articles in peer-reviewed scientific journals. Basically, he wrote prefaces, articles in collections of scientific papers that were called mass graves in the USSR, articles in ordinary newspapers, articles in memory of scientists, and reports at conferences.
                Judging by the list of scientific papers, Vavilov not only never engaged in genetic research on plants, but also never dealt with the description of new plant species and the development of new varieties. He writes in French a certain generalizing work "Agriculture and agronomic science in the USSR" (L'agriculture et la science agronomiquo en URSS. - Revue int. Bot. Appl. Agric. Trop., 1933, t. 13, No. 140, p. . 241-251). And then suddenly Vavilov, for no reason at all, becomes an expert in wheat selection. In 1935, another book was published, not based on any original work (Scientific Foundations of Wheat Breeding. M. - L., Selkhozgiz, 1935, 246 p., Fig., Tab., 3 incl. Sheet maps.). After this book, Vavilov begins to write some review articles on breeding. Les bases botaniques et géographiques de la sélection. [Botanical and Geographical Foundations of Breeding]. — Bevue int. Bot. appl. Agric. trop, 1936, t. 16, no. 174, p. 124-129; No. 175, p. 214-223; No. 176, p. 285-293.

                The conclusion is obvious, the breeder Vavilov was none.
              3. +3
                1 November 2016 13: 10
                Dear Mahmut! If not for yours, then the bread, that and the USSR would have been alive, and we would have had enough bread in excess. And the fables about the fact that in the USSR were starving leave the half-educated real.
              4. +3
                1 November 2016 13: 15
                Mahmut, how much of this grain did the Russian budget receive? belay
            3. +4
              1 November 2016 10: 50
              Quote: NordUral
              About dairy products it’s better to keep quiet.

              Well, if there is a lot of grain and it is exported, this may indicate a decline in animal husbandry in the country, if there were any livestock, who would feed the feed grain ...
              1. +6
                1 November 2016 13: 11
                Feed, just feed us cattle.
                1. 0
                  1 November 2016 23: 31
                  Quote: NordUral
                  Feed, just feed us cattle.

                  Himself to blame, do not be cattle, in the store you probably take what is cheaper, and not what is more qualitative.
                2. raf
                  0
                  2 November 2016 08: 16
                  Quote: NordUral
                  Feed, just feed us cattle.

                  However, how highly do you rate yourself! laughing
            4. +6
              1 November 2016 11: 26
              but for whom is this excellent grain?

              From excellent grain make pasta, wheat groats and semolina. Does anyone talk about a shortage of these products? Or about the high cost? In my opinion today it is the most affordable in the store.
              1. +6
                1 November 2016 13: 13
                Excellent pasta - imports mainly. Look at the root of the problem - the increase in yields - not for the people, but for the profit of an insignificant minority.
          2. +1
            1 November 2016 09: 18
            I join myself, there is no desire to repeat myself.
          3. +1
            1 November 2016 10: 36
            With beef, far from everything is rosy, but the hunger of the Russian Federation is unlikely to threaten. If only artificial.
            1. 0
              1 November 2016 13: 14
              An attempt to repeat the experience of the second half of the 80s is quite possible.
              1. 0
                1 November 2016 13: 48
                "An attempt to repeat the experience of the second half of the 80s is quite possible." This is how? - Everything is in the hands of private traders - no one will ruin their business, and even more so to give up the profit.
                1. +3
                  1 November 2016 13: 56
                  The state of the village remains extremely dysfunctional, and catastrophic in the basic sectors. And although poultry farming is considered successful, as it were on take-off, there is also much stuck in management problems. For example, in 2015, 27 regions of the country increased egg production compared to 1990. The remaining 50 regions now scored only about 14 billion eggs, compared to 28 billion in 1990. Less than half. On the whole, then they received 47,5 billion from laying hens, and now 42,5 billion, that is, 5 billion less eggs. The number of birds of all species has been reduced from 660 million to 527 million heads. And at the same time, in recent years, poultry meat growth has been ensured - mainly on imported equipment, veterinary preparations and breeding materials.
                  At the same time, there is not a single region where, over a quarter of a century, all branches of agricultural production ravaged by the restorers of capitalism would be revived. On the contrary, in most regions and regions the main production capacities remain in utter ruin. Huge voids have been gaping in the country's economic organism for a long time, green wealth is disappearing.
                  For 25 years, the production of all types of meat in Russia should have exceeded 15 million. But no matter how the current state managers boasted, in 2015 the total weight of broiler chickens reached 4,3 million tons. Just the same - 4,3 million tons, but only beef was supplied by peasants in 1990. Today, the production of these products has curtailed to 1,6 million.
                  Here is a permutation of equal numbers, but by no means an equivalent substitute for food. In the Soviet era, the largest share among them was occupied by the most important and expensive product - beef, and the bourgeois government replaced it with the cheapest product - precocious poultry meat. In 2015, nearly 1 million tons of meat was imported into Russia, including a fourth part - poultry meat.
                  http://www.sovross.ru/articles/1474/27899

                  How does this compare with your thesis?
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  Everything is in the hands of private traders - no one will ruin their business and all the more refuse profits.
                  1. 0
                    1 November 2016 23: 23
                    Now only Agroholdings can breed cows, it is already expensive and difficult for a rural person. someone can pull, and someone physically does not pull home cars.
                  2. 0
                    1 November 2016 23: 36
                    http://www.sovross.ru/articles/1474/27899 - Эти ребята ещё те сказочники.
                    1. 0
                      2 November 2016 09: 20
                      Quote: Vadim237
                      These guys are still those storytellers.

                      Unlike you, storytellers and dumbasses, who do not see beyond their noses, the pros still work there, not from the yellow press, but from PROFESSIONALS. And the letters that come from the country published there are not tales of Grefs, Nabiullins and other Siluanovs.
                      You should be silent than to show your ignorance and snobbery.
                      1. 0
                        3 November 2016 15: 35
                        I’m not a storyteller, and if I were inept, I wouldn’t have had my own production of parts and repair facilities, as well as multimillion-dollar investments — I don’t trust articles from the Internet — all the more so under the sauce of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.
                        1. +2
                          3 November 2016 15: 39
                          I don’t trust you either, on the basis of your unfounded chatter.
                        2. +1
                          5 November 2016 09: 42
                          I often visit villages and I can subscribe to the words of a bloodsucker! hi
                  3. 0
                    2 November 2016 01: 31
                    The Bloodthirster justifies his Nick ...
                    1. +1
                      2 November 2016 09: 21
                      Quote: Jackson1954
                      true to his nickname ...

                      And what does your nickname show?
                      And he shows a tendency to what was determined by the officers of the Fleet-English crap.
                2. +2
                  1 November 2016 15: 15
                  And why should they (oligarchs) refuse to export? I wrote about internal affairs. It is not farmers who export, but huge oligarchic firms. All the little things go under the knife.
                  1. 0
                    1 November 2016 23: 16
                    "Huge oligarchic firms" - What kind of firms are these in agriculture?
                    1. +1
                      2 November 2016 09: 22
                      Quote: Vadim237
                      In agriculture - what kind of firms?

                      MIRATORG for example, did not know the asphalt peasant?
                      1. 0
                        3 November 2016 15: 47
                        And it’s good that there are Agroholdings — without them, they wouldn’t have produced anything at all now — the peasant private farmer will not be able to produce large volumes in agriculture.
                        1. +1
                          5 November 2016 09: 49
                          and it’s good! if the state farm fed the whole village, now several farmers have the income of the state farm, the only ones who pay land tax, they don’t work for them, they don’t support the social base that the state farms kept! and how many agricultural holdings are in Russia, the village is really bent
          4. +3
            1 November 2016 11: 03
            China, India and the United States are ahead of grain exports in the first, by production, but they have more own consumption, but oil in the first, although Saudi exported in the first, Russia itself consumes half of its oil. But the State Department mercenaries and their brainless victims will not stop whining in any situation, they have such a job.
          5. +5
            1 November 2016 11: 36
            As for the first places .. From Krasnodar to Novorossiysk the road is full of grain carriers, everything is in the port .. Yes, the poultry industry has risen strongly. Don’t talk about beef and milk, here the guard was closed in the area even though they could make milk from a barrel of monkey fat. And this is the Kuban agricultural region ..
            1. jjj
              +2
              1 November 2016 12: 20
              In the Don, traffic jams are now due to bulk carriers. Dozens of ships have been waiting for grain loading on the Yeisk roadstead for years. Now there’s no bread in the store. Eat one, the other, and then anyway, go to the chernushka from the old bakery
              1. +3
                1 November 2016 13: 16
                Exactly, there is a lot of bread, but more and more of fodder grain with flavor enhancers.
                1. 0
                  1 November 2016 23: 34
                  Quote: NordUral
                  Exactly, there is a lot of bread, but more and more of fodder grain with flavor enhancers.

                  Do not buy bread from fodder grain, who forces? belay
                  1. 0
                    2 November 2016 01: 33
                    And do not say - they wanted capitalism, so now suffer from abundance - if you don’t want to, don’t take it!
                  2. +2
                    2 November 2016 09: 24
                    Quote: KaPToC
                    Do not buy bread from fodder grain, who forces?

                    It’s amazing ... they tell you that the port roads are full of grain carriers that transport 1,2 category bread for sale, 3.4 is used as flour for bread inside the country, but you still don’t understand why the bread is sometimes of poor quality.
                    Private trader for the sake of profit, the mother will sell, that's what it's called.
                    1. +1
                      2 November 2016 14: 18
                      Quote: The Bloodthirster
                      Amazing ...

                      Your inadequacy is amazing.
                      Quote: The Bloodthirster
                      grain carriers that carry bread-1,2 categories for sale, within the country 3.4 is used as flour for bread, but you still do not understand why bread is sometimes of poor quality?

                      What they buy is the one they drive, demand creates supply, but not vice versa.
                      Quote: The Bloodthirster
                      Private trader for the sake of profit, the mother will sell, that's what it's called.

                      That is, the first grade bread will be sold in Russia - but what for will the producer need hemorrhoids with sale abroad ?.
                      1. +1
                        2 November 2016 14: 55
                        Quote: KaPToC
                        Your inadequacy is amazing.

                        Really amazing, yours.
                        Quote: KaPToC
                        What they buy is the one they drive, demand creates supply, but not vice versa.

                        Already passed, UNEED, but exported, the result of such an attitude towards the country is known.
                        Quote: KaPToC
                        That is, the first grade bread will be sold in Russia - but what for will the producer need hemorrhoids with sale abroad ?.

                        Why do you contradict yourself and confirm the thesis of your own inadequacy?
          6. +2
            1 November 2016 18: 49
            Hey, where have you ever seen pig-poultry farming? -That I, for example, have not seen a single open new state farm-collective farm pig-cow farm for all these years! -Not one such enterprise !!! Our only poultry farm was bought by Moscow-Dubai and there, for non-payment of even electricity and huge debts, the power supply was turned off !!! And the factory itself is in such a state that it is time to compare it with Auschwitz. In order to reach supposedly such rates of meat production, at least it was necessary to build dozens or not hundreds of enterprises, to grow cattle there, to establish reproduction, this is all people have to serve and all this It would overgrown with villages and kindergartens with schools and polyclinics !!! - Where did you hear that? where does the meat come from in the absence of livestock, enterprises and infrastructure? Listen to more media our bu gu gu gu gu - as we drove the meat from behind the mound and drive !!!! where you saw all these enterprises, farms do not even give loans !!! and if they give at 24 percent per annum !!!
            1. +2
              2 November 2016 01: 34
              Yeah, Fungus, you obviously didn’t go further than your village ...
              1. 0
                2 November 2016 11: 42
                And where do I need to go to see all this, to the Kremlin to Uncle Putin? -Yes, and why is it? -It's like a saying, somewhere far away there is everything, but here we have it as usual, but don't worry, all this is in distant lands there is !!!! - you believe the main thing and there is nothing that next to you, do not pay attention !!! Do you have a Jackson 1954 year of birth? -If yes, then forgive me the age does not correspond to a sober vision of what is happening. Just like in the movie penal battalion, "how many times have I heard, but never seen !!!"
                1. 0
                  3 November 2016 15: 54
                  You don’t have to go far, just go here - http://mcx.ru
        2. +5
          1 November 2016 09: 12
          We have a hunger strike (fasting) purely for health reasons, and they mainly use youthful cheeseburgers and hamburgers to maintain health, gobbled up a dozen and all wrinkles are smoothed out wink
      2. +16
        1 November 2016 07: 19
        The comments of the western inhabitants were amused. Dumb and Dumber.
        1. 0
          1 November 2016 10: 56
          What can I say about them? They recently recently donated as much as 100 thousand E to our villages from the EU budget. I wonder how much they have already spent to brag about it?
      3. +11
        1 November 2016 08: 15
        A loaf of bread will be obtained, but only our "experts" have been predicting economic growth for the second year already, but it still has not.
        Investments are scanty, nobody buys housing, I do not judge in Moscow, I’m talking about central Russia. Relatives and acquaintances from the Bryansk region mostly work on a rotational basis in Moscow. And I don’t care to our rulers why millions of hard workers are wound up in the capital .. But even Moscow earnings have significantly cut back over the past 2 years.
        1. 0
          2 November 2016 01: 35
          And how do you determine that the so-called. "experts" are not mistaken?
      4. +14
        1 November 2016 08: 15
        Quote: Uncle Murzik
        you have to go take a queue for bread, otherwise you won’t get it!

        Not not uncle Murzik, the hedgehogs harvest was good, and I will be for bread 1835343434. wassat fellow
      5. +10
        1 November 2016 09: 50
        So my grandmother tells her mother that there is nothing, there is no bread, she had to smear caviar on beef tongue .. crying
      6. +5
        1 November 2016 10: 05
        Quote: Uncle Murzik
        you have to go take a queue for bread, otherwise you won’t get it!
        Did I miss something? request How can I get no bread like this? am What am I supposed to smear caviar on sausage! crying
        1. +3
          1 November 2016 11: 06
          Quote: fif21
          How can I get no bread like this? am What am I supposed to smear caviar on sausage! crying


          Eat sour cream laughing By the way, no kidding, delicious. Caloric only to disgrace)))
          1. 0
            1 November 2016 19: 36
            Quote: nadezhiva
            Eat sour cream By the way, no kidding, delicious. Caloric only to disgrace)))

            What kind of caviar are you talking about? recourse I mean the overseas "eggplant"! request
            1. +1
              1 November 2016 22: 05
              laughing I'm talking about red. Overseas eggplant in a good recipe is almost mashed wink
              1. 0
                4 November 2016 19: 47
                Quote: nadezhiva
                Overseas eggplant in a good recipe is almost mashed

                laughing And then! But I will not smear it on sausage! The body does not accept sausage wassat
                Thank you for your sense of humor. hi
      7. +1
        1 November 2016 15: 09
        Quote: Uncle Murzik
        you have to go take your turn for bread
        better for salt, matches and kerosene
        1. +1
          1 November 2016 18: 54
          I think so, yes, we need to start stocking up, otherwise we have some kind of monogrammed pig farm and state farms formed on their own and there cows themselves breed pigs without the participation of people they cut themselves grow up and cut themselves a sausage, bullshit !!! how they bought meat over the hill and bought it. Nothing is built does not work, we have not opened any new agricultural production in Karelia, but there were dozens if not hundreds under the USSR !!!
    2. +15
      1 November 2016 07: 13
      An Englishman can attend to the fate of Russian citizens only in one case, when our state is developing and gaining strength ..
      1. +3
        1 November 2016 07: 23
        We have no blockade of bread in St. Petersburg, we smear black caviar on the final sausage. You look soon the west will crawl on your knees.
        1. +14
          1 November 2016 09: 45
          I'm going to stand in line for coupons for coupons ... (c)

          Now from jokes to business ...
          Dear forum users.
          Pay attention to the presentation of the material: the soul of the author (Constance) hurts and she leads such horrors that the Western man in the street must wash himself with tears about the unfortunate inhabitants of Russia and the treacherous Putin, who drives everyone into slavery. Well, how can you refuse humanitarian bombing? And only he, the author, takes on the role of the messiah in order to open the eyes of "unwashed Russia" ..
          I just want to quote "Learn, Kitty!" (from)
          Now the second. If there are such articles on the level - then the Western man in the street: people hawala! He does not need the lofty matters and reflections of Fedor Raskolnikov - he just needs such a "zhrachka" - an emotionally suffering one, but since a journalist, and even conducted a "journalistic investigation" - therefore "he (she) knows what he is writing about" ...
          Third. Throw in - overgrown with comments. The logic is clear: more comments, more resonance, and then ... And then this is the picture - an article typed, let's say 10 comments. Well, who needs it besides narrow specialists? Or vice versa - the article has collected over a million comments - so "every blogger" is obliged to check in, but the article itself does not need to be read. The title is enough. So it turns out that the more the discussion, the more how to say it ... the more grounds for subsequent references to this material already in the quality of TRUE!
          Want a recent example? Yes, please :)
          The article here is in VO about majors or - remember? Where the kids were discussing on Gelenvagen. How many comments did she get? Over 300. And the article on the prohibition of abortion is much less!
          But in fact, the problem of abortion for our country is much more relevant in its scale than a couple of freaks who sooner or later sniff, hang out and so on.
          Yes? So, gentlemen, we also "hawai"? And then I personally, in a ramblere, highlighted a link to an article about majors ... and even with a reference to VO. Advertising? Yes, of course ... Shows that VO discusses anything, in the mainstream, keeps pace ... only what does the word "military" have to do with it ...

          These are such funny pictures that add up after reading the material, and yet yes, my turn for coupons is suitable, I’ll go ... otherwise I’ll stand again if I miss ...
          1. 0
            1 November 2016 11: 56
            Technologies - the State Department rules on the network, how it works, you can understand enough to observe a little, and seemingly patriotic sites are also involved in this area, hired commentators - there are a sea of ​​them here, "cunning authors", advertising of the necessary publications, and if VO strongly resist - pushed in so that no one will see.
            You understood this, and others understand, and whoever does not understand are fools, little depends on them.
          2. +1
            1 November 2016 14: 21
            In general, the pictures are really funny. No wonder the media called someone SMRAP - mass media, agitation and propaganda. I allowed myself to slightly change this abbreviation, replaced the letter P with D, i.e. misinformation propaganda. The moral of this fable: turn on all the filters available to you and, first of all, brains, if they are. And the creations of the arrogant press in SMRAD are beyond competition.
            1. +1
              1 November 2016 15: 45
              Quote: Old military instructor
              No wonder the media called someone SMRAP - mass media, agitation and propaganda.


              Correctly SMRAD - mass media, agitation and misinformation.
        2. jjj
          0
          1 November 2016 12: 24
          Quote: maks-xnumx
          We have no blockade of bread in St. Petersburg, we smear black caviar on the final sausage.

          Bread in St. Petersburg is normal. But good sausage is hard to find. But from "Miratorg" there are many tasty things for sale. There is even a mirotorgovka fish. And, as it turned out, the herring from St. Petersburg is a role model for quality. Laboratory tests have confirmed. Although, of course, I like more Arkhangelsk
          1. +3
            1 November 2016 14: 57
            Quote: jjj
            Bread in St. Petersburg is normal.

            Interest on 80 lousy. Cheaper than 40 rubles do not buy anything edible at all. The granny blockade told me the same thing the other day. And compared with the blockade
            1. 0
              1 November 2016 15: 10
              Quote: Winnie76
              Interest on 80 lousy.

              forward to Western technology, already five years already we eat our bread
      2. +1
        1 November 2016 11: 44
        But our government "cares" about military pensioners:
        news from the Ministry of Labor: More than 2,5 million military pensioners will not receive a lump sum payment of 5 thousand rubles, although their pensions were also under-indexed in 2016, as well as civil ones. In 2017, the military plans to increase pensions only by 4%.
        1. jjj
          +1
          1 November 2016 12: 31
          Military, police, judicial, prosecutorial and state pensioners at the Ministry of Labor do not close. They have their own order. And when in such categories the pension is 50-80 thousand - for pensioners of the northerners - then the five are not even noticeable. There is another matter. That worked a civilian in the Far North. Earned thousands of 16-18 pensions. Moved to warmer climes. And his northern pension remained. Take the prosecutor. In order to receive a northern pension, he must live in places not so remote to death. And if you go south, then the pension is automatically cut off more than twice
          1. +3
            1 November 2016 13: 11
            Quote: jjj
            Take the prosecutor

            You want to say that prosecutors, judges are poor?
            4/5 of the salary - for those who have worked for the full twenty years or at least ten years in the presence of twenty-five years of other legal experience.
            for those who have worked for less than twenty years, and upon reaching the age limit - in proportion to the length of refereeing;
            4/5 of the salary + 1% for each additional year of work - for those who have worked for more than twenty years.
            So, the judge’s salary ranges from 50 to several hundred thousand rubles:

            Justices of the peace earn 50-80 thousand rubles.
            The official salary of a federal judge is 140 thousand rubles.
            The judge of the Supreme Arbitration Court receives about 200 thousand rubles.
            Judge of the Supreme Court - about 300 thousand rubles.
            A judge of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation earns more than half a million rubles a month.
            How much is retiring? Minimum-from 50 thousand, retirement-40, wow poor ladies ...
            And this is at the pension level of teachers, doctors, engineers .. workers, peasants-8-12t
            ys, and still complaining?
            Something I didn’t meet a single prosecutor with judges in reality, everyone is very, very wealthy, or the pension is agronomic, or for some other reason ..
          2. 0
            1 November 2016 13: 59
            Quote: jjj
            worked as a civilian in the Far North. He earned 16-18 thousand pensions. Moved to warmer climes. And his northern pension remained. Take the prosecutor. In order to receive a northern pension, he must live in places not so remote to death. And if you go south, then the pension is automatically cut off more than twice

            And what pension do you not tell the prosecutors?
            And about the salary, with all the payments you can’t say?
            probably several times higher than 18-19 in civil ...
        2. +2
          1 November 2016 12: 36
          How much have military pensions been raised since 2008?

          x2? and in 17 only 4%

          In total, I think more than 104%

          When you write about 4%, it seems that you forget about previous increases. The military has a decent pension.

          Against their background there are pensions of 7-9 tr.
        3. 0
          1 November 2016 12: 47
          Sharapov Today, 11:44 ↑ New
          But our government "cares" about military pensioners:
          Oh, what a sorrow, ah-ah-ah ... And what kind of pension do you have for the military?
          We must perfectly understand that we do not live in the USSR. And there’s nothing to fill the budget with. Oil and gas have fallen in price especially gas, on average, export prices have dropped by $ 100. And this is oh, what part of the budget.
          Yes, I know, now you will tell me about thieves, general corruption, etc. So I do not argue, but where are they not? So we have to live within our means, so nobody seems to have promised us to make life easier. Or do you really believe in blah blah, candidates for deputies before the election? Naive...
          1. +3
            1 November 2016 13: 21
            Quote: Alex_1973
            And there’s nothing to fill the budget with. Oil and gas have fallen in price especially gas, on average, export prices have dropped by $ 100. And this is oh, what part of the budget.

            And what kind of worries about oil revenues are they out of your pocket, or is there the lion’s part going into the pocket of effectively defective property owners, which are then exported to offshore?
            To live within your means, but ... well, as it is said, "there is no money, but you hold on, while the number of dollar billionaires and millionaires, against the background of already 3 \ 0 million people who are barely making ends meet, makes you happy ..
            There are 97 billionaires in Russia with a total fortune of $ 380 billion. Domestic billionaires account for 8,5% of the number of ultra-rich citizens of the country, but control more than 60% of the country's total wealth. Over the past year, the number of billionaires has grown by 17 people,
            More details: http://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/17996
            That we all should bow to their legs that we are getting worse and worse, and they are getting better and more beautiful while you are moaning about oil?
            Quote: Alex_1973
            So we have to live within our means, so nobody seems to have promised us to make life easier.

            Of course, of course, why should everyone make their life easier, you need to get yourself a pill and abroad, as 17 of the country's richest ghouls have already done, why pay taxes in the Russian Federation, and so they will survive.
            Why invest in a country, you have to push everything from it, and you ... you tighten the belt, start at the waist, and when you’ll become completely unbearable, you’ll get right to the neck ...
            The number of dollar millionaires in Russia grew over the year by 18,5 percent. Now we have 513 thousand families with a combined capital of more than one million dollars. According to experts, growth is associated, firstly, with revenues from the commodity economy
            You see, RAW, and that means they don’t do a damn thing in the country, except for the blunt export of raw materials.
            Good wishes, to do something in the country, that does not find a response in this category, they would have to bring everything to England, Croatia, and Israel ..
            1. 0
              1 November 2016 13: 59
              Good wishes, to do something in the country, that does not find a response in this category, they would have to bring everything to England, Croatia, and Israel ..
              Vlad, am I really going to litter you? Or do you think that I do not live in this country? Everything that you wrote is true and correct. The question is different, but what to do? To dispossess? And who will do this and under what circumstances?
              Where is the real way out? What real steps can be taken to turn the oligarchs not even to the people, but to the interests of the country?
              Here offer real steps, only without slogans.
              1. +2
                1 November 2016 16: 28
                [quote = alex_1973] The question is different, but what to do? To dispossess? And who will do this and under what circumstances? [
                What to do, choose reform according to John the Terrible, reform according to Peter 1, reform according to I. Stalin, which is closer?
                Or how is it fashionable for us here to moan for some part about Stolypin’s reforms? Is it necessary to remind how the Stolypin fuss ended?
                There is an analogue in what is happening in RI until 17, Witte, with his aspirations to put Russia on a French credit hook, a gold standard with gold being washed out of the country and the absence of its industry and the current liberal duremars from the economic unit, acting exactly the same way, to which it led ?
                So now, two ways ..
                All three reforms written above are a kind of revolution from above.
                There would be political will, and there would be people.
                1. 0
                  1 November 2016 17: 01
                  The Bloodthirster Today, 16:28 ↑
                  What to do, choose reform according to John the Terrible, reform according to Peter 1, reform according to I. Stalin, which is closer?
                  Vlad, to me personally, the Stalinist version is much closer. The question is where to get the new Joseph Vissarionovich, and even coupled with Lavrenty Pavlovich? Because the political will from above came precisely from them. I don’t observe any of them yet.
      3. +1
        2 November 2016 01: 43


        This is only a fraction of the new.
        1. +1
          2 November 2016 11: 27
          Yes, even here the whole site was made with us to be copied - for those who have a glass half empty - everything will remain so.

          And do not care that more than 2 new plants have been built in a few years. In the picture you have only 000.

          If you put on the map the size that everything above is built, nothing will be visible except the icons

          There will be those who will lament the demolished factories from the age of 91 (there are also thousands of them) - it doesn’t matter that the goods have to be sold up-to-date - and that the factories could only work at the warehouse. There is the fact of demolition. And to understand the reasons are the details and it is not interesting.

          It’s like Zyuganov with his groans about everything ruined and that not a single plant has been built. Although he can only tell his assistants - collect me information and organize it. Fortunately, this is not difficult - there would be a desire and there would be thousands of new industries.

          But why??? It’s easier to say that there is nothing.

          So here on the forum - the only difference is that Zyuganov works for the votes of the electorate, and forum users for the pluses and other attributes of this forum)

          People generally don’t like to think in general - it’s easier to see the vidyushka — to hold hands on the head and say - everything is gone.

          And how many characters are there scarecrows of urapatriots by the revolution - they wrote - we’ll see haha, # soon
          She was happy about the swamp and said - the Kremlin itself brought everyone to the handle. In the end, what? Bunch. Because vidyushki about how bad everything is for the crush is not enough. Therefore, the nicknames of members of the opposition forum were changed - the struggle continues)

          1. +1
            2 November 2016 15: 00
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            And do not care that more than 2 new plants have been built in a few years. In the picture you have only 000.

            For 25 years, -2000, instead of destroyed 120000? Thank you, caring ...
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            It’s like Zyuganov with his groans about everything ruined and that not a single plant has been built. Although he can only tell his assistants - collect me information and organize it. Fortunately, this is not difficult - there would be a desire and there would be thousands of new industries.

            A..et like on your favorite site "made by us" - a workshop for the production of 1 TONS of cheese per MONTH. Against the background of a dead dairy with a capacity of 500 tons of products per week.
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            So here on the forum - the only difference is that Zyuganov works for the votes of the electorate, and forum users for the pluses and other attributes of this forum)
            People generally don’t like to think in general - it’s easier to see the vidyushka — to hold hands on the head and say - everything is gone.

            Yeah, here’s some kind of byak Zyuganov ... well, for example, we take collective farms, which, under the auspices of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, operate as national enterprises, see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpUyTZQmr7w, we see
            , all of you, with your cries about saving farmers, I’ll scatter you, somewhere deep under the baseboard, from product quality, productivity and labor remuneration with social and saved benefits for workers on these collective farms.
            http://marksist.kprfamur.ru/ekonomika/narodnye-pr
            edpriyatiya.html
            1. +2
              2 November 2016 15: 40
              For 25 years -2000, instead of destroyed 120000? Here are thanks, caring ..


              1. it’s stupid to compare the numbers - earlier, and 100 aircraft a day were released from plywood
              2. 2000 not in 25 years. I don’t know where you found these numbers.
              3. It is not enough that the enterprise / plant should be. They must work, be profitable, the goods must be sold, and not lie in the warehouse, taking up space and, accordingly, adding to the cost of this very product. No one will ever close a factory that makes a profit, where sales are established and the process of creating a product and its sale is regulated.

              A..et like on your favorite site "made by us" - a workshop for the production of 1 TONS of cheese per MONTH. Against the background of a dead dairy with a capacity of 500 tons of products per week.


              everyone sees what he wants to see. On the site "doneunas" there is undoubtedly news about the opening of a workshop, as well as news about the opening of factories and enterprises worth several billion rubles (and there is also news where factories cost under $ 1 billion)

              Yeah, that's what Byak Zyuganov


              Well, not byak, but he’s okay. He hardly needs anything and is unlikely to strive for something, because everything is fine with him. He is such a communist that capitalism completely suits him. And he could become president, but this is responsibility, you understand. Someday yes they will ask.

              And the communist Zyuganov does not drive the domestic auto industry - he does not come to the Kalina regime to parliament. His patriotism rests on comfort. And when these two concepts begin to fight in Zyuganov - I think both you and I understand - which of these two factors takes precedence over the patriot-communist Zyuganov

              And so you sit on the pope - you lead a party in parliament - you trade places, cooperate with Yukos (well, it used to be, I haven’t read about investigations on the Communist Party party for a long time, but I think everything is just as fun there, if you rummage around) and everything seems to be fine.

              who, under the auspices of the Communist Party, work as national enterprises


              clear.

              all of you with your cries for saving farmers scatter


              had a better opinion of you.

              http://marksist.kprf


              wake up. capitalism has been in the country for 25 years. Zyuganov, like the Communist Party itself, is more than satisfied with this. And Zyuganov lives, Zhirinovsky and other parliamentarians are better than all of us here sitting together

              Open your eyes. Stop thinking in categories - bad / good.

              Zyuganov is the same communist as Zhirinovsky. Communist Party are the same communists as the EP.

              So divide into parties, as if you really believe that the EP is bad, the Communist Party is good.
              United Russia - thieves and crooks - Communist Party - the lights of the nation.

              It seems that adults are all people, but as I read sometimes ...
    3. +5
      1 November 2016 07: 13
      Hedgehogs are over
      1. +3
        1 November 2016 07: 23
        We have already switched to toads and ants.
        1. +9
          1 November 2016 07: 28
          Greenpeace is not on your head.
          1. +8
            1 November 2016 07: 37
            Quote: Smog
            Greenpeace is not on your head.

            And thank God! laughing Harvest this year above the roof, nowhere to fold. And all. This year, nature has given its full, but it is not clear where the price tags in stores, especially for products, have grown. The Antimonopoly Committee sleeps a sweet dream. am
            1. +9
              1 November 2016 07: 40
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Harvest this year above the roof, nowhere to fold. And all. This year, nature has given its full, but it is not clear where the price tags in stores, especially for products, have grown.


              traders and usurers do not sleep ...
              they will make their gesheft on everything, even on manure
              1. 0
                1 November 2016 08: 23
                Well, these are their traders, not imported. And certainly not Putin.
                Look at the neighbors in the trade and see why the crop is ignored.
                1. +6
                  1 November 2016 09: 07
                  How to understand? With a gun?
                  Has the electricity price gone up? Yes. Gas prices have risen? Yes. As a result, the rent and maintenance of premises have risen in price. All. The "market" economy however ......
            2. +2
              1 November 2016 07: 45
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Quote: Smog
              Greenpeace is not on your head.

              And thank God! laughing Harvest this year above the roof, nowhere to fold. And all. This year, nature has given its full, but it is not clear where the price tags in stores, especially for products, have grown. The Antimonopoly Committee sleeps a sweet dream. am

              Yes hi
            3. +3
              1 November 2016 08: 07
              but it’s not clear where the price tags from the stores grew, especially for the products.

              This is called inflation. (Affectionately): In an economy based on bank loans, inflation is inevitable. Watch the movie "Zeitgeist", there it is shown in detail.
              1. +2
                1 November 2016 08: 22
                Quote: kit_bellew
                in an economy based on bank loans, inflation is inevitable.

                But inflation is different in different countries, although the economy is always based on credit. Where does the difference in the percentage of inflation come from?
                And the increase in prices in our country almost always depends not on inflation, but on the appetites of individuals. request The chain of links between rising food prices and rising grain prices was given below. hi
                1. 0
                  2 November 2016 01: 45
                  What kind of inflation in Africa?
                2. +1
                  14 November 2016 02: 18
                  I was referring to the general trend. It is clear that in each case pricing goes through so many interested hands ... in general, the girl at the Central Telegraph would not agree for any money. However, one should not think that the nightmare itself is with us. We have something like everywhere else. Those with a spice in their hands (read - a dollar, I suddenly remembered Dune lol ), in any country, greedy imbeciles are shoved to key positions by hook or by crook. Imbeciles provide the owners with the necessary level of chaos in the country, and since they themselves are to their ears in the trough with compound feed, they don’t need anything else. Who cares how much bread costs? cheese? petrol? cars and apartments in the end? no matter how much it all costs they will still be enough for everything. This is the basic principle of imbecile management - that they have enough for everything. And, I repeat, one should not think that imbeciles in power are a purely Russian phenomenon. This is far from the case.
              2. +1
                1 November 2016 14: 02
                Quote: kit_bellew
                This is called inflation. (Affectionately): In an economy based on bank loans, inflation is inevitable. Watch the movie "Zeitgeist", there it is shown in detail.

                This is called lawlessness.
                To ordinary people, to hell with poppy seeds, and officials, and others ...
                By the way, how much now are State Duma deputies getting? With all the payments together, 600 thousand or more?
                1. 0
                  2 November 2016 01: 45
                  Do not be simple!
            4. +5
              1 November 2016 09: 01
              Ingvar 72
              And thank God! laughing Harvest this year above the roof, nowhere to fold.
              Lumumba Today, 07:13 AM
              Hedgehogs are over

              Well. And you got all the hedgehogs. And by the way, they are fighting with rodents.
              So, let's "squander" the bourgeois property.
              Rodents will shock everyone in the warehouses due to the lack of hedgehogs.
              Prices will go up. And who will be to blame? Right, we are. Due to the fact that all hedgehogs were eaten, and there is no one to fight the seed of a huge crop !!!!!!!! laughing fellow
          2. 0
            1 November 2016 08: 20
            So hunger is not aunt! Green cry, choke, but eat.
            But otherwise, it is necessary to match the image.
      2. +6
        1 November 2016 07: 33
        We homadrils are unwashed sticks with us and we will fight with sticks with them. According to their concepts, we should put a bucket at the helm and they will rob us as in the 90s. So ... yes, I’ll stand in line for bread than they will bow before you. My two grandfathers fought scum crushed, and I am the first in line if the motherland lies.
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    5. +3
      1 November 2016 07: 19
      "Probably, it is not too late" to make the right decision "and save the Russian people", yes, to hammer a huge bolt on amers and the like, and act as beneficial to Russia and its citizens, without looking back at these jackals
    6. +2
      1 November 2016 07: 22
      In fact, it’s wonderful that there are such people and that they write such things. It is only necessary not to scold them, but to react to it correctly. And rightly so: invite him after that on a free tour of the Russian Federation with the possibility of free communication, offer a good fee for a series of truthful articles ... And most importantly - to paint it all. How it interested, how he was offered, how he drove ... what he wrote. Create a parallel flow of information. People really like this and this technique is very strong.
      1. +5
        1 November 2016 07: 30
        Yeah, and he will come back and write that we not only have no bread, but the salt is about to end.
        1. 0
          1 November 2016 07: 39
          Quote: Smog
          Yeah, and he will come back and write that we not only have no bread, but the salt is about to end.

          As in the film "War" by Balobanov.
        2. +1
          1 November 2016 07: 53
          You have not read carefully. Do not let the visit take its course, but create a parallel flow of information. Here he is in a Russian family at the table ... Here he is in the store, looking at the salt ... In such conditions it is difficult to write outright lies. This is how it is done, but "not without a rudder and without sails." It is the science and art of managing information.
          1. +5
            1 November 2016 07: 58
            Here he is in a Russian family at the table ... Here he is in the store, looking at the salt ... In such circumstances, it is difficult to write frank bullies

            Yes Yes. Look at Mosul and Aleppo. And as Western media write. Well, everything immediately falls into place.
            offer a good fee for a series of truthful articles ...

            Well, in Russia, green wrappers are not yet printed, which means they will be outbid.
            And then they will also declare an agent of the Kremlin, with all that it implies.
            Or bank accounts will be blocked, like Rasha Today. Democracy is such a "democracy"!
      2. +1
        1 November 2016 08: 35
        Create a parallel flow of information

        The flow can be adjusted. Ask people questions. What do you think about Medvedev? What do you think about the deputies? Then you can write on the film and remove the matouri to air.
        1. +7
          1 November 2016 09: 01
          Quote: Hupfri
          Then you can write on the film and remove the matouri to air.

          There will be no air, as there will be only matyougs on the film. hi
        2. +5
          1 November 2016 09: 11
          and removing matyugi to air.

          IMHO There will be nothing to broadcast.
          1. 0
            1 November 2016 15: 31
            All these are empty words, we knew how to work with foreigners in the 30, who can do it now. I already wrote above that this is science and art. Everything can be done, you just need to be able to do it. You have no idea how this is done, so write all sorts of nonsense. Well, about the Western media is not necessary ... As if you are reading them. In fact, you read the hodgepodge from our media. And this is compared with the fact that there really is a big difference. There, everything is not so stupid, straightforward and simple. So - with us!
            Then you do not know how they pay there, hence this - "outbid". Full-time journalists are paid, and the articles themselves are ... cheap! The salary is high! Articles are cheap! And it doesn't matter what they are about. That is, no one pays increased fees for being "Russian donkeys". Therefore, everything can be done if specialists get down to business and they have the appropriate credit.
    7. +4
      1 November 2016 07: 23
      Quote: Uncle Murzik
      you have to go take a queue for bread, otherwise you won’t get it!

      Still in line to push around ... We ourselves will be able to bake! wink
    8. +3
      1 November 2016 07: 28
      You're lying !!! There are no queues - because there is no bread.
      What should Russia be like if the states torn its economy to shreds over a year? How can one survive under sanctions surrounded by missile defense and NATO battalions? There is a solution - do not care about the states ...
      1. +6
        1 November 2016 07: 41
        Quote: avg-mgn
        There is a solution - do not care about the states ...

        Your words, yes Vova in ears. So far we are buying Treasury (GKO), despite the sanctions. request
        1. 0
          2 November 2016 01: 48
          How smart are you - do you know something about treasure?
        2. 0
          2 November 2016 06: 18
          I just can’t understand why we are buying them ??? Can anyone explain ?.
    9. +4
      1 November 2016 07: 29
      IMHO, it is not necessary to discuss nonsense from a regular yellow rag on VO. Even if it is "foreign."
      1. +1
        1 November 2016 12: 04
        You are discussing, and someone just read the name - technology, they rule the network, and this is not our technology, and they do not work for us.
    10. +1
      1 November 2016 07: 30
      The West is dreaming.
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    12. +12
      1 November 2016 07: 32
      Yes, Nabiullina says that we have marked "growth" in the economy and this must be believed — as soon as she said so, it is so. Yesterday I was in a grocery store and really noticed an increase in prices for almost all items compared to the previous month (not even a year, but a month), though not by 1,5-2%, but by about 5-10%, and there are even more vegetables ... Payment for housing and communal services came there, everything grew by the same 5-10%. Obviously Nabiullina is not quite right, our growth is not 1,5-2% and more percentages by 5-10%. So, our economy is "recovering" by a "higher" percentage, and not even annually, but monthly ... wink laughing
      1. +8
        1 November 2016 07: 50
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        So the economy is "recovering" in our country by a "higher" percentage and not even annually, but monthly

        Moreover, prices are rising from scratch, i.e. there are no real reasons. There are appetite traders. And they are growing along with the dollar. I judge by the facts - feed grain prices increased by 20 - 30%, this despite the record crop. Goryuchka, on the other hand, rose by 7-10%, and Z \ P was still a worker and remained. Question - where is the rise in grain prices in 20-3o%? And the price of almost all products depends on the price of fodder! Eggs, milk, meat - everything is tied to grain. There is only one conclusion - someone wants to compensate for the loss of income in dollar terms. And this someone is a person very close to the body of the emperor. hi
      2. 0
        1 November 2016 08: 22
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Yes, Nabiullina says that we have marked "growth" in the economy and this must be believed — as soon as she said so, it is so. Yesterday I was in a grocery store and really noticed an increase in prices for almost all items compared to the previous month (not even a year, but a month), though not by 1,5-2%, but by about 5-10%, and there are even more vegetables ... Payment for housing and communal services came there, everything grew by the same 5-10%. Obviously Nabiullina is not quite right, our growth is not 1,5-2% and more percentages by 5-10%. So, our economy is "recovering" by a "higher" percentage, and not even annually, but monthly ... wink laughing


        where is it so?
        Do you know in general that according to regulatory documents, payments for housing and communal services in the Russian Federation change no more than twice a year, in January and in July, and in January, ONLY in the direction of decrease? and the maximum level of increase is set by the Government of the Russian Federation?
        so don’t have to invent or voice your dreams here ...
        1. +3
          1 November 2016 13: 25
          Quote: kitamo
          so don’t have to invent or voice your dreams here ...

          Dream up??
          Do you live on Rublevka and have no idea how the price for housing and communal services is creeping?
          Every month, all payments, for everything, are 5-7 thousand for us, and this is with an income of two pensioners of 22 thousand.
          1. +4
            1 November 2016 14: 59
            Yes, stop complaining about life ... everything in our country is "nuuuu sooooo fine"!
            You just need to do "real business" ... sports, for example, is the most "priority and profitable" type of activity now.
            Can I give you an example? Please ... athletes who did not make it to the Olympics in Rio, they decided to pay 4 rubles of compensation (Isenbaeva and others), and bow-legged football players, such as Kokorin and Mamaev, as much as 000 for "hitting" the 000 European Championship. ..o how!
            And you here about housing and communal services with pensions ...
    13. +1
      1 November 2016 07: 56
      Quote: Masya Masya
      Quote: Uncle Murzik
      you have to go take a queue for bread, otherwise you won’t get it!

      Still in line to push around ... We ourselves will be able to bake! wink

      Yes, they do not even suspect that in Russia many people bake bread themselves!
    14. +4
      1 November 2016 07: 57
      Sanctions and low oil prices have seriously weakened Russia and its economy, the journalist notes.
      Like most Western "analysts", Frederic Constance tries to wishful thinking. Sanctions are just an additional pretext for unreasonable price increases. No sanctions will cause Russia such damage as their own thieves
    15. +1
      1 November 2016 07: 59
      Further, Mr. Bonzer assures the public that Stalin "killed 62 million people."
      First, pack in the destruction of the population of India and the destruction of the Indians and blacks.
    16. +1
      1 November 2016 08: 00
      No cuts threaten us
      The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, declared the proposals of the Ministry of Finance of Russia on the budget of Chechnya for 2017, which involve a reduction in costs, unacceptable, RIA Novosti reports. He stated this at a budget meeting.
      “The budget model that the federal center offers us is unacceptable for the Chechen Republic,” Kadyrov said.
      So the Czechs will not stand in lines
      1. +3
        1 November 2016 08: 11
        Quote: Hupfri
        “The budget model that the federal center offers us is unacceptable for the Chechen Republic,” Kadyrov said.

        By the way, this can cause the next campaign or terrorist attack, there is no money - there are problems, there is money - there is no problem, it rests on such a simple principle
    17. +3
      1 November 2016 08: 07
      Nothing, as long as there are coupons on the Internet, then we are not afraid of hunger. We can always tell the West about our renewable stocks of dried hedgehogs :)
    18. 0
      1 November 2016 08: 15
      It's better to have fun than work
      It’s better to drink vodka than to fight.
      And remember about Mom's worries ...
    19. +1
      1 November 2016 08: 18
      Quote: Uncle Murzik
      you have to go take a queue for bread, otherwise you won’t get it! wassat

      Well, wait, and I went for a bread machine laughing
      1. +1
        1 November 2016 16: 02
        flour mill do not forget !!!!!
    20. +8
      1 November 2016 08: 48
      Excellent presentation of the material. The British are to blame for everything, they dared to say something against. And now all visitors to the VO site are ready to love even Nabiulina. And with bread, everything is normal with us, "just money" And therefore the question is why, if everything is so good, why in Moscow there is no one to remove the snow. Why do TAXI travel around the city, and not taxis? Who was going to starve himself, for what idea? Just because Oleg Chuvakin has a talent for writing fiery articles? But in the country everything remained the Unified State Exam, the Yeltsin Center, "Slavakolchaku" and bread made from flour of the 4th category.
      1. 0
        1 November 2016 15: 50
        And this is always the case. The easiest and easiest way to make money on information. You sit on access to it. There - one thing, from there - we - another. The choice is yours! The voltage is minimal! There - they found a drowned man in the Nidamsky swamp ... Interesting? Interesting? We had a festival of honey and sanctions were nothing - interesting? Oh yeah! About the drowned man - to us, about honey - to them. The main thing is a good translation. In the process of free translation, copyright to the text completely disappears. Take any and ... here and there, here and there. Or just here, here, here ... It's less profitable, but also good. So ... the "fish spot" is open! Now you can follow this path!
    21. 0
      1 November 2016 09: 02
      According to Constance, the Russians, "cut off from the world economy, starve themselves"

      We just decided to fast, so as not to accumulate fat and other burdens of life.))
    22. +4
      1 November 2016 09: 10
      The lying Western talkers at the brains themselves are on their heels, and others are delirious ...
      1. +2
        1 November 2016 09: 27
        The main thing is not who says what, but who is believed.
      2. +1
        1 November 2016 15: 52
        He was wrong! The main thing is not to tell the truth, but to talk a lot, with the right media planning, and ... have a lot of money to bribe the right journalists. And that's it! What is true, what is "not true" - all the same!
    23. +1
      1 November 2016 09: 16
      As my great-grandfather used to say, who saw both the First World War and the Civil War and the Great Patriotic War (he vaguely remembered the Russian-Japanese war, for he was 5 years old): "They scared us, and we poked." bully
    24. +1
      1 November 2016 09: 18
      The dovecote got excited again ...
    25. +1
      1 November 2016 09: 27
      The next feces of the British idiot, probably, is unnecessary to cite on this resource. He was told to write and offered money, and he wrote. Well, what can you do if the executor of the order has such a meager imagination? What can you expect from a scribbler who writes without leaving his rotten office and without even looking at his news channels? These proposals to Putin to surrender to the mercy of globalizers, especially after his speech at Valdai, are no longer even funny. There is a great deal of doubt about the analytical ability of British journalism in general. It is even a pity for the citizens of the commonwealth, they are forced into frank "noodles", apparently not assuming that the average English citizen is a representative of the kind of "Homo sapiens." The local journalists believe that the English-speaking "people" eat up everything that is thrown into their trough. It's a shame for them ... I'm on my side, I didn't expect any better from them.
    26. +2
      1 November 2016 09: 40
      We will definitely not be left without bread. The only question is what? Considering that new GOSTs on flour for baking have been adopted, which now allow the use of lower grade grain, which was previously used for compound feed. Here are the cases - top quality grain abroad, "daragim rassiyanam", panimash, compete with pigs and cows for food.
    27. +1
      1 November 2016 10: 00
      Why is it that our economy is in decline, where do Western performers take it from ?! In Soviet times, a loaf of white bread cost 20 kopecks. Today it costs 20 rubles only! Well, taking into account all the inflation that took place in the 90s, a penny turned into a ruble !!! Again, in the days of the USSR, one dollar cost 1-90 kopecks, today it costs 95-60 rubles (or the same kopecks of the Soviet era) So what is it about a torn economy to pieces ??! Or are they their favorites replacing their countries, including Americans, flies with RUSSIA ??! Then everything falls into place !!! It turns out their economies are torn to shreds it turns out that in their countries the people are starving and lining up for a piece of bread !!! Given that everything in this world has been turned upside down for a long time, then what I wrote above puts everything in a normal position !!! bully
    28. +4
      1 November 2016 10: 15
      Gathered 400 kg of potatoes, 400 kg of apples; rolled up cucumbers, tomatoes, cabbage; put 60 liters of wine from currant; collected three baskets of mushrooms and mushrooms. I'm getting ready to starve. crying
    29. +1
      1 November 2016 10: 19
      No, something Fedka Kostin bent. This year, in my country house, so many rummies and moles got divorced, I fought all fall. so now I'm with meat. and skins on a fur coat to his wife! tongue
    30. +2
      1 November 2016 10: 28
      I wouldn’t kick the author much for such a gloomy forecast. We already did this in February 1917, when interruptions suddenly began in Petrograd with the cheapest and most popular rye bread. Then there were no objective prerequisites for a hunger strike. In 1916, despite the war, the country harvested a good crop and did not even require the introduction of rationing of basic food products except sugar. And the most amazing thing, after the February Maidan, when the deed was done and the old state system was broken, the bread appeared as suddenly as it had disappeared. So, that in modern variations such things are quite feasible if the final split of the political and economic elite of the modern RF occurs.
      1. +2
        1 November 2016 13: 59
        "I wouldn't kick the author hard for such a gloomy forecast." Excuse me, but where did you see the forecast there? In addition to the phantasmagoria in this scribble - of which not a single thousand are walking on the Internet - I did not see anything.
        1. +1
          1 November 2016 14: 36
          In general, such phantasmagoria of the Western media should be treated very carefully and carefully. For, as a rule, they are followed by things in the direction they need. And we simply have fertile ground for all sorts of destructive events. I remind you that Maidan never starts from below. It is prepared and carried out by a part of the power and near-power elite. Alas, there are prerequisites. It is enough to pay attention to the inconsistency of the policies and actions declared by the president, coupled with the strategic planning of the socio-economic bloc of the government. By the way, we remember one more, relatively recent, but very striking example. If in the fall of 1990 I was told that in a year there would be no Union, then I would call such thoughts nonsense.
          1. 0
            3 November 2016 16: 07
            We have no Union now - there is nowhere to go and no one to do, all the Maidan in Russia are doomed to failure with a deafening crash.
    31. +4
      1 November 2016 10: 58
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Moreover, prices are rising from scratch, i.e. there are no real reasons. There are appetite traders. And they are growing along with the dollar. I judge by the facts - feed grain prices increased by 20 - 30%, this despite the record crop. Goryuchka, on the other hand, rose by 7-10%, and Z \ P was still a worker and remained. Question - where does the rise in grain prices in 20-3o% come from? And the price of almost all products depends on the price of fodder! Eggs, milk, meat - everything is tied to grain. There is only one conclusion - someone wants to compensate for the loss of income in dollar terms. And this someone is a person very close to the body of the emperor.


      You are mistaken, dear. We have a ruble in fact, it's the same dollar only in ruble skin. The entire economy, all production in our country is based on credit dollars, which is three quarters of the total money supply. As many goods and raw materials were sold to the trap, as much as we are allowed, according to the exchange rate, to print pseudo rubles, no more, no less. Moreover, according to the "Budgetary rule" imposed on us, everything that exceeds the limit set by the winners ... the limit is removed from circulation in the foreign banks of the winners in the "hold" war for a certain gold-currency reserve ... (and not only ... ) where these funds are frozen for us. But the Americans can use this frozen amount of "our" dollars to immediately start printing new unsecured, inflationary dollars for their own needs, one of which is to suck out and spread rot on Russia in any way. One of which is to buy real resources from her for your papers and at the same time dump your inflation on us. And while our economy will be tied to their dollar, do not expect anything but a rise in prices and a fall in the price of our lives.
      See the root.
    32. 0
      1 November 2016 11: 17
      Well, these Squibs or Squirts give you what you really want. In all likelihood, according to their forecasts, people in all leading positions should now be seated who would close tobacco factories, distilleries, farms, sell all the bread abroad, and chickens were strangled with chlorine gas, dispersed defense enterprises along the way, closed Research institutes and design bureaus. Then the crowds of hungry Russians would take to the streets of the cities and villages from their unheated frozen apartments, and demand bread, lard, vodka and smoke. But this in Russia, alas, the British, with all desire, do not observe.
      But all this is more than in Ukraine, which is under the external control of the British, Americans, Germans and various other Swedes.
      This is bad luck.
      It's time, it's time for the British to revive the civil war in Northern Ireland. Will die down immediately!
    33. 0
      1 November 2016 11: 38
      another nonsense of pseudo-truthfulness.
    34. 0
      1 November 2016 12: 18
      It’s early in the queue for bread, I have not yet touched the supply of smoked hedgehogs for the winter!
    35. 0
      1 November 2016 12: 41
      Quote: Mahmut
      If YOUR Vavilov had not been killed, then in the USSR there would be no shortage of grain.

      Let me disagree with you.
      Perhaps in the future, at that time, Vavilov would have made the country really necessary in the end ... But now, in fact, before that it was oh, how far.
      In this sense, he is no better than our current Chubais. They spend a lot of money and a useful exhaust, real, zilch alone.
    36. +2
      1 November 2016 12: 53
      Gathering the opinions of inadequate scribblers on the forums to the heap is an uninteresting occupation. There is nothing to discuss here. Just like listening to and discussing Boma and Bima every day with other kovtuns and Koreans.
    37. +2
      1 November 2016 13: 08
      (The author calls Russia “an impoverished” country. In his opinion, the bear is now “in despair.”)

      Do not wait!
      1. +1
        1 November 2016 13: 38
        And you look at the comments, the good half whines in the same way, and this is on the patriotic website, it’s clear that some of them are State Department mercenaries, but they also have real brainless victims, so the State Department has hopes that we will drop by, and that’s reinforcing the pressure.
        1. 0
          1 November 2016 14: 02
          "The State Department has hopes that we will jump" Already no one in Russia will jump - the National Guard will crush.
          1. +1
            1 November 2016 14: 10
            At the State Department?
            Or those who have a fat mosh that bursts and use you? Substituting under the National Guard?
            1. 0
              1 November 2016 14: 22
              Yes, - you need to jump, - definitely. And the State Department says the same thing - Ukrainians obeyed - happy and satisfied, - Bohato live, are free, - are very free.
              - You can clearly see you of the State Department mercenaries, usually at these levels (commentators) the crested children work, although they are dumb, they are very cheap, they are taken in numbers.
              1. 0
                1 November 2016 14: 40
                Quote: ando_bor
                although they are blunt, but very cheap, they are taken in numbers.

                Cool you described yourself.
                There is a problem, but for you, as in the famous parable of the three monkeys, I don’t see, I don’t hear, I don’t want to know anything .. so who is the troll here, those who see what is happening or those who put on blinders and earplugs, and even a gag in mouth, not understanding anything Uryakvasgazpatrietizmom here suffer?
          2. 0
            1 November 2016 14: 40
            Rosguard crush. If there is political will and a clear understanding of further goals and objectives in a positive way. And if not?
            1. 0
              3 November 2016 16: 12
              We also have articles in the Criminal Code for actions similar to the Maidan, so the National Guard may not be needed - the special services will put everyone in jail at the "first assembly".
        2. +2
          1 November 2016 14: 16
          Quote: ando_bor
          And you look at the comments, a good half similarly whines, and this is on the patriotic website, it’s clear - some of them are State Department mercenaries, but they also have real brainless victims

          Who do you relate to?
          Can oligarchs save Russia, the Financial Times thought. Once they succeeded: 20 years ago a small group of Russian businessmen saved the country from returning to communism, the British newspaper recalls. “Physically and politically weak” Boris Yeltsin almost lost to Gennady Zyuganov. Initially, he was only three percent ahead of the Communist candidate, but thanks to the help of the oligarchs, Yeltsin won 13 percent by a margin. "Today, in very different circumstances, the oligarchs may again need to intervene in the political life of the country."

          Russia is in a “quandary,” according to the Financial Times. In total, real income fell 10 percent over the year. GDP - by 3,7 percent. “Forget the bragging of President Vladimir Putin and the hostilities in Ukraine and Syria. A country that was once a superpower is in decline today. ”

          Original news from InoTV:
          https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2016-10-19/Financial
          -Times-prizvala-oligarhov-spasitelej-izbavit
          I’m disappointed in FT analysts ... I can say with full certainty that if you try to make an oligarchic coup in Russia and once again take Privatization, the people will endure these oligarchs on a pitchfork and nothing will save them. But if this becomes possible, then you’ll get a star deal for this , due to misunderstanding of the situation.
          Associate yourself with the nouveau riche?
          But then they are preparing social outrage in the country.
          Not everything is so smooth and beautiful in the country. Mr. Uryakvasgazpatrieti.
          1. +1
            1 November 2016 14: 33
            The State Department is working in all directions, - there are no fools sitting there, having suffered a defeat in the liberal direction, switched to the leftists, - to force the jump, no matter what slogans.
            And here in comments, more than half of the horses are already part of the State Department mercenaries, but there are real brainless victims.
            1. 0
              1 November 2016 14: 41
              Quote: ando_bor
              And here in comments, more than half of the horses are already part of the State Department mercenaries, but there are real brainless victims.

              Exceptional stupidity you wrote.
              This one, in your opinion, in vain asks Gref questions?
              https://cont.ws/post/416945
              1. +1
                1 November 2016 14: 49
                And I'm about the same thing, and the State Department-to jump on anyone, no matter against whom and with what slogans.
                - Ukrainians also jumped against real crooks and thieves, - galloped.
                1. +1
                  1 November 2016 15: 01
                  Quote: ando_bor
                  Ukrainians also jumped against real crooks and thieves, - galloped.

                  Yeah, they jumped on when pennies of some oligarchs, jumped in favor of other oligarchs as a result, they finally got a bit more sharp and fell into the Nazi dictatorship.
                  How does our oligarchs and their servants differ from those? Nothing, the system is the same.
                  1. 0
                    1 November 2016 15: 21
                    Yes, the oligarchs are basically no different, but there is still a difference: in Ukraine, who will not be the oligarch under America, who will not be in Russia.
                    1. 0
                      1 November 2016 16: 31
                      Quote: ando_bor
                      in Ukraine, who will not fall under America will not be an oligarch; in Russia, who will not lie.

                      Good thoughts, realities ... as one Amer said there, if you think that your elite is yours, you are mistaken, we have her money, and if so, then she is ours.
        3. +1
          2 November 2016 10: 53
          Quote: ando_bor
          And you look at the comments, a good half similarly whines

          And whine who? The Communists !!!))))
    38. +1
      1 November 2016 13: 58
      I read all, I agree with everything that there is still one way out, NATIONALIZATION ....
      1. +1
        1 November 2016 14: 45
        I agree, but only raw and resource-intensive basic industries requiring serious strategic planning. For the service sector and partially agribusiness this is unnecessary.
        1. +1
          1 November 2016 15: 04
          In .. about this, the Communists have been talking for a year, and things are still there ... they are creating a drip, without any clearance for the future.
          What private trader will develop something big if he needs to snatch as quickly as possible?
          But heavy, medium-sized aircraft and other buildings are long-term investments, so the public sector is needed here, and we are all blown up ... the market mustache will be taxed out ... they are taxed abroad, the country is suffocating from the dope of Gref and other siluanovs ..
          1. +3
            1 November 2016 15: 24
            Well ... Although I’m not a communist, you start to point out elementary things and then bam, you turn out to be a maidanut agent of the State Department. A good position for the organizers of a possible impending disaster. Or maybe you should look for Maidan in other places that are more convenient? For example, in the government or directorate of some large companies. And the presidential administration is also on suspicion. Or maybe these pseudo-patriotic cheers-exposers are CIA agents themselves and carry out a cover operation? This is of course a joke, but still, things are far from safe ...
            1. 0
              1 November 2016 16: 35
              That's it.
              Ohr and screams that everything is good in the media and realities are very different.
              The bureaucrats are on the spot, they are doing anything in the reports, but in fact?
              For example, two republics of Kabarda and Ossetia. You don’t have to delve deeply, you just go along the Caucasus highway and you see the difference where they work and where the subsidies are buzzed, then they eat them and again they buzz.
              At the same time, a lot of industrial zones, broken into rubbish, farms and other things .. but there is still a large pile of shops, cafes, distilleries ...
      2. 0
        3 November 2016 16: 19
        "There is still only one way out, NATIONALIZATION ...." - There have already been two "nationalizations" in Russia, the first under the Bolsheviks, the second after the collapse of the USSR, what happened after them is not worth saying - everyone knows.
    39. 0
      1 November 2016 15: 08
      Putin leads Russia back to "Soviet poverty"

      I think many would not mind, especially when you consider that poverty is clearly in quotation marks, and the sausage was made from meat
    40. 0
      1 November 2016 15: 34
      Why on VO such an article ?? it's all rubbish, weaning of our time
      1. 0
        1 November 2016 18: 39
        Quote: SG11
        Why on VO such an article ?? it's all rubbish, weaning of our time

        You are wrong, this is a very necessary topic ... The army needs to be fed with its own (high-quality) products! The food security of any state is one of the main pillars of independence and defense ... I remembered when they began to purchase grain in bulk in Canada ... This was the first bell of the collapse of the USSR! And then it started ...
    41. +1
      1 November 2016 15: 41
      Quote: SG11
      Will there be bread queues in Russia?

      - What would the State Department mercenaries with their brainless victims frolic.
      You look komenty: - it turns out in Russia almost the truth queues for bread appeared,
      and urgently need to ride against the anti-people regime.
    42. 0
      1 November 2016 15: 46
      If now we try to see the news trend on state channels over the past year, it smacks of the smell of North Korea. Syria and our weapons and missiles in particular. Not a word about the situation in the economy, the situation with health care, science, that the Serdyukovs and Chubais are in the field and also in Skolkovo and Rusnano sawn budgets. By default, everything is fine. I really do not want to turn into an outcast, who with a nuclear club knocks out nishtyaki.
      1. 0
        1 November 2016 15: 53
        - Yes, - you need to ride, and then there will be freedom, democracy, and immense wealth, as in Ukraine.
        1. +2
          1 November 2016 16: 05
          No, of course, you need to pour more dough on Chubais, Serdyukov, Vasilieva more Monet's new picture. Every Russian for this should be ready to sell a kidney. And those who are against the 5th column! P.S. Our ball is not only Ukraine.
      2. +1
        1 November 2016 15: 54
        In general, weapons and missiles, in particular, are not bad. Rather, the opposite. From an economic point of view, a good weapon is an excellent profit and an excellent source of income from its sale. The problem is different. This, coupled with good numbers (again, numbers) of the development of agricultural production, the only thing that the country's leadership can boast on the main television channels. The rest, even if corruption is bracketed, failed miserably and with a roar. Hence the corresponding information background. Well, about the rogue country got excited. This is already an information war on the other side.
        1. 0
          1 November 2016 16: 09
          No, about the development of weapons and their advertising and sales, I agree with you on this. That's right, as you said, we have nothing else. What products do our country know abroad? Auto, food, chemistry, pharmacology, clothing, electronics? Nothing. As in the stereotype of Western films - Kalashnikov, Ushanka and Vodka. Yes, while we certainly are not an outcast country, but I meant that we did not want this to be so, but for now, this trend is being traced.
        2. 0
          1 November 2016 16: 43
          Quote: libivs
          From an economic point of view, a good weapon is an excellent profit and an excellent source of income from its sale

          All this is paid by the people, and therefore the sash was delayed.
          But how did this affect the nouveau riche? No way, if you look at the endless optimization, reduction, reduction of payments to workers.
          Moreover, everything here is crackling like a mustache is good, how to explain when workable enterprises are completely bankrupt? Have you received the money, the company has collapsed, the money has gone abroad and yourself there, is it time for such bumps for the zugunder and the sun?
          As part of the Megaresearch study, an analysis was made of industry prices for the period July 2015 - July 2016 (Moscow, Smolensk, Vladimir, Yaroslavl, Tula, Tver, Ryazan and Kaluga regions). In all the studied regions, an increase in the cost of flour was observed. On average, over the period under review in the Central Federal District, it increased in the highest grade by 10,3%, in the first grade by 7,1%, and in the second grade by 11,4%. Such an increase is dictated by the increase in the cost of feedstock - grain.
          In the new year, price increases will continue. As analysts grimly joke: “The country will be provided with food. The main thing is that prices for flour products are not equal to prices for meat. ”
          http://www.sovross.ru/articles/1475/27972
          More recently, the head of Mari El reported to Vladimir Putin that a “first category incubator” was built on the basis of Akashevskaya in the republic and promised bright prospects for replacing imported poultry with Mari products at all counters in all regions of Russia.
          The realities turned out to be different. The owner of the poultry farm Nikolay Krivash, who gained control over it with the support of the republican government, proved himself to be an “effective” manager. First, his ambitious plans failed to conquer the market for the countries of the Arab region for Akashevskaya's products. And in September of this year, the sale of Krivash to the company was announced. The reason for this, experts believe, could be its huge borrowing (according to some reports, the total debts of Akashevskaya exceed 30 billion rubles). Currently, lawsuits are being prepared for consideration in court from a number of legal entities on declaring a company bankrupt.
          http://www.sovross.ru/articles/1474/27901

          Note, this is infa from the field, but it is somehow not in the same vein as officialdom tryndit ....
          1. +1
            1 November 2016 18: 14
            Well, this is also confirmed by a really conducted social survey, only 17% of the respondents trust official television, the rest spoke in the same vein, they say look around and what they say on TV, these are two different things.
      3. +2
        1 November 2016 21: 18
        By the way, there was a report that a public opinion poll in the Russian Federation showed a decrease in confidence in the domestic media in the last year by some percentage. And this is an indicator. There are many topics on which it would be possible to give information about life in our country, but we continue to be informed that it is bad there. But ... we have a pension of 12 thousand and in the USA in rubles - 85 ... The difference is obvious and indicative. And many do not care what they say about us. They are not indifferent to why we have 12, and they have 85 ... By the way, about bread. Recently I was at a "round table" in the newspaper Young Leninist in Penza. There was a farmer who fed the participants with his own, natural, homemade bread. The taste is very different from what is in stores.
        1. 0
          3 November 2016 13: 01
          Quote: kalibr
          There was a farmer who fed the participants with his natural, homemade bread. The taste is very different from what is in stores.


          My mother bakes bread and different cakes are MUCH more delicious than the one that is sold in the store. MOST INTERESTING, FROM STORE WRONG FLOURS.
    43. +1
      1 November 2016 20: 53
      Quote: Thought
      Quote: The Bloodthirster
      At the beginning of the year, the assistant to the head of the Rosselkhoznadzor Alexei Alekseenko said that the quality of bread in Russia "is degrading before our eyes."


      it’s generally disgusting, if the Russian people are mistaken for animals and fed with fodder instead of human food, then there is a reason to express discontent and distrust to this power, and if Mahmud is satisfied with cattle feed, then this is his business and his level of culture.

      Ignoramus a big request to do enlightenment, Bread is made not from grain but from flour !!! The highest yield of flour from the highest grade is the least and least bran; from the 3rd grade, the highest grade of flour cannot be obtained and the small yield from the fodder AT ALL, you can get completely BRAN and all go to the mill and work to lighten up. Write complete nonsense.
      It’s annoying that there are so many office plankton in VO. He who sowed stings, he will not carry such bread. fool
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        1 November 2016 21: 14
        Quote: WildFox
        It’s annoying that there are so many office plankton in VO. He who sowed stings, he will not carry such bread.


        dude you knock yourself on the head, the bread that they sell to us is really tasteless and the fact that this feed grain explains everything.
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          3 November 2016 10: 12
          dude ...... after this word, you can no longer read .... dude.
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        1 November 2016 23: 23
        Hmm ... In 1994, when we moved from Kazakhstan to Kaliningrad, the first thing that caught my eye was the crappy quality of white bread. Local bread does not go to any comparison with either Kazakhstan or Siberian. The climate is not the same. There are hard varieties and there are soft (fodder) varieties. Bread from imported foreign and domestic old-Oskol flour, by the way, too rubbish, but still better. Perhaps this has already become a pan-Russian misfortune. In general, I would like to hang up local bakers for one place and ask how they can bake such bread-like products. The best solution is to buy flour of your choice (if you have one) and bake the bread yourself, which in principle is not bad ....
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        2 November 2016 11: 12
        Quote: WildFox
        WildFox Yesterday, 20:53 New
        Quote: Thought
        Quote: The Bloodthirster
        At the beginning of the year, the assistant to the head of the Rosselkhoznadzor Alexei Alekseenko said that the quality of bread in Russia "is degrading before our eyes."


        it’s generally disgusting, if the Russian people are mistaken for animals and fed with fodder instead of human food, then there is a reason to express discontent and distrust to this power, and if Mahmud is satisfied with cattle feed, then this is his business and his level of culture.

        Ignoramus a big request to do enlightenment, Bread is made not from grain but from flour !!! The highest yield of flour from the highest grade is the least and least bran; from the 3rd grade, the highest grade of flour cannot be obtained and the small yield from the fodder AT ALL, you can get completely BRAN and all go to the mill and work to lighten up. Write complete nonsense.
        It’s annoying that there are so many office plankton in VO. He who sowed stings, he will not carry such bread. fool


        Your post will not even be noticed by the chants, and the old nestolving komunyaki will not understand! After all, they, the "working" class, do not sleep, not in spirit, how and from what bread is made!
        I am engaged in agriculture and reading this nonsense is even somehow offensive. In agriculture, there are problems in terms of the development of small farms, but they are not insurmountable, and depend on the regional authorities. In my not large national region, this is the former party nomenklatura, now named differently, but retaining its essence, it simply distributes raw materials among themselves without selling in small parties. We have to "grub" in the neighboring areas. But in spite of these former regional committee ghouls, we are still developing and not starving.
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          3 November 2016 05: 42
          What kind of bread in St. Petersburg ---- completely suits me. But the question is --- how much should bread cost? Well, I tried to compare prices under socialism, some proportions, in relation to meat, to transport, to a quarter board. Someone writes that for 20 rubles bread is bad. But should bread cost 20 rubles? There is a shop near the house, there is wine for 50 rubles. Is it possible to assume that this is good wine ???????????? One woman asked about this. About pasta. There are our good and inexpensive ones. Recently 1 -2-3 years became much better. Almost import stopped buying their own seven. .
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            3 November 2016 12: 52
            Quote: Reptiloid
            there is wine for 50 rubles


            Reptilians do not understand that grapes (for example) from which wine is made, at the place of production and during the harvest It costs 5 rubles per kilogram. Especially if the grapes are not marketable.
            Also, one comrade was surprised - tomato paste costs 50 rubles a bank, "how so? A tomato costs 150 rubles (in winter) and tomato paste 50 ??? It can't be !!!". And at the same time forgetting that in the Krasnodar Territory in the harvest year in the fall, a kilogram of overripe tomatoes is given to a farmer by 50 kopecks a kilogram!
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              3 November 2016 13: 29
              A-ha-ha-ha !!!!!! in essence they did not answer! !!!!! It is understandable! Tomatoes, they are! It doesn't matter how much it costs (in the place of growth)! Logistics. Networks. I'm not talking about the cooking process, about special equipment. Employees. In St. Petersburg, wine cannot cost 50 rubles. = Minibus. It is in vain to think that this is wine. Or, as they say, "butter" "on incomprehensible packages, and there is no butter there! That's what I mean. Although, of course, tomatoes do not know this.
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      2 November 2016 02: 56
      and online coupons, all up to date. laughing
    45. +1
      2 November 2016 07: 10
      Of course, we can say that everything is good in Russia in spite of the damned capitalists. But look - the annual budget of Russia at 19 (!) Place for 2015 between Norway and Venezuela. And in front of such mighty powers (not counting the real world ones) such as Switzerland (population 8 million), Belgium, the Netherlands, Mexico, South Korea, Spain, Australia, Canada ... Well, if per capita, which would be completely fair, then at the level of African countries. Therefore, the great Russian economists never stutter on this indicator.
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      3 November 2016 12: 46
      I’ll go, I’ll sell my tame bear, I’m selling balalaika, and I’m starving, I’m short of bread, I smear butter directly on sausage.
    47. 0
      3 November 2016 15: 15
      since the British are in many ways right, our people live very poorly, and all of us are fed with news by Syria and Ukraine. Putin was not able to economically hold the state, we work for food and for food, it's a shame sad
    48. 0
      3 November 2016 16: 49
      Quote: Airborne6
      but for whom is this excellent grain?

      From excellent grain make pasta, wheat groats and semolina. Does anyone talk about a shortage of these products? Or about the high cost? In my opinion today it is the most affordable in the store.

      And what the hell are domestic pasta of average quality almost like Italian from high-quality durum wheat ???
    49. 0
      3 November 2016 19: 04
      Western nonhumans - die in bulk !!!!! am
    50. +1
      3 November 2016 22: 27
      The answer to such "writers is one" debili bliad ".
    51. 0
      4 November 2016 11: 18
      Yesterday I took away a special ration from an FSB officer... I understand that now they are going to camps, so at least the children will eat lol
    52. +1
      28 January 2017 17: 12
      Of course, this is British trolling and there is no point in discussing it, they are paid for it. But the quality of bread and food products in general is worth talking about. The Soviet quality control system and GOST standards were destroyed; Rospotrebnadzor is worthless on a market day. The government is busy with air trade and providing comfortable business conditions for monopolists. Our hardships with you are up to the lilac star. But there are also masters - bakers, sausage makers, cheese makers, etc. But it’s only the crooks who run the show. So draw your own conclusions about who is dancing to whose tune. The system, however.

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