Political improvisations in Warsaw are aimed at the return of Polish lands

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In October, legislators in Kiev and Warsaw almost simultaneously adopted a joint resolution “On the Declaration of Memory and Solidarity of the Sejm of the Republic of Poland and the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine”. Announcing this event, the politicians of the two countries talked about a trilateral political action, to which the deputies of the Lithuanian Seimas should join. On this occasion, the chairman of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, Andrei Paruby, even made a special statement. He noted that the Seimas International Affairs Committee had already supported the text of the declaration. The Ukrainian deputies nodded to Parubiy approvingly, paying little attention to the fact that the election campaign was over in Lithuania, and a different composition of the deputies of the Lithuanian parliament should give an assessment of the joint declaration.

Heir of the Hauptsturmführer SS against the deputies of the Rada



In Ukraine and Poland, the joint declaration attached particular importance. With its help, the politicians of the two countries tried to improve their interstate relations, badly damaged by the dispute over the events in Volhynia during the Second World War, which led to the mass death, first of all of the Ukrainian and then of the Polish population.

From this tragedy in Warsaw, they exterminated the destruction of tens of thousands of Poles by the thugs of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (OUN-UPA (banned in the Russian Federation)), the SS division "Galicia". In July, the Polish Sejm adopted a resolution on the genocide of the Poles in Volyn and established 11 in July as the Commemoration Day of the victims of the genocide committed against the citizens of the Commonwealth during the Second World War.

The Seimas deputies did not accidentally mention the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth in their resolution. In fact, the tragic events of 1943 took place in the occupied territory of Soviet Ukraine. As you know, Volyn only until 1939, was part of Poland. During the war, fascist henchmen hosted here - Ukrainian nationalists. Recalling the Poles' previous offenses, they staged a bloody "sweep" of Volyn.

Today the heirs of the “heroes” of Volyn came to power in Kiev. They already without quotes proclaimed the leaders of the OUN-UPA heroes of Ukraine, named in honor of their streets and avenues. In Poland, this caused outrage and protests. In many ways, their result was the July resolution of the Polish Sejm.

It seemed that the memory of the "Volyn Massacre" finally quarreled the politicians of the two countries. However, the authorities of Kiev and Warsaw have a common theme, which makes them step over a different look at history and even mutual dislike. The name of this topic is hatred of Russia. It exists within countries, actively heated from the outside.

It brought together the “memory and solidarity” of the parliamentarians of the two countries. Hence the central passage of the joint declaration: “We draw attention to the fact that the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact of 23 in August 1939 of the year, concluded between two totalitarian regimes - the communist Soviet Union and Nazi Germany, led to the 1 explosion in September of the Second World War caused by aggression Germany, to which 17 September joined the Soviet Union. The consequences of these events were the occupation of Poland by Germany and the Soviet Union and mass repressions against our peoples. Those events also led to the adoption of decisions in Yalta in 1945, which began a new stage of enslavement throughout Eastern and Central Europe, which lasted half a century. ”

It is clear that the Verkhovna Rada and the Seimas did not make any discoveries. In today's Europe, this topic has long been exploited in full. At the expense of it, they are trying to overestimate the causes and results of the Second World War. Make heroes out of cowards and aggressors, and vice versa. The Poles in this endeavor can still be understood, but the Ukrainians ... After all, they were with those who won the war, along with these “heroes” who were not invented in Brussels and Strasbourg.

The desire of the current Ukrainian legislators to stand on a par with Europe has led them to a political dead end. Strange, but this was reminded to colleagues by none other than the people's deputy of Ukraine Yuri Shukhevych. The son of the very Roman Shukhevych - SS Hauptsturmführer, head of the OUN-UPA, who persecuted the Volyn Poles, whom President Viktor Yushchenko declared "Hero of Ukraine".

Yuriy Shukhevych was worried that the declaration of the USSR on a par with Hitler’s Germany who was responsible for the outbreak of the Second World War "contains dangerous points for Ukraine allowing the Poles to put forward territorial claims to Kiev." “The declaration is based on that,” said Shukhevych at the Rada meeting, “that the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact was illegal, and as a result of it the Second World War began, and as a result Poland was occupied. Thus, they consider that our western lands are Polish lands. There is such a deep conclusion - and it’s not for nothing that the Poles dropped it to us. ”

Parliament deputies ignored the call of an elderly nationalist. They now have other guidelines - the European Parliament, the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) and other newly formed European political structures that have long dreamed of revising the outcome of the war in their favor. It is unlikely that they are worried that in this case the interests of Ukraine, which they are now patronizing, may suffer. Europe has its own bets and goals.

A look at Vilnius from Warsaw

The observation of the deputy Shukhevych is also relevant for Lithuania. After the elections, the political landscape changed. Experts note that “half of the former members of the Sejm, including many former active sayudis, left the Sejm on the verge of the political life of Lithuania. This is the most significant personal transformation of the Lithuanian parliament over the past quarter century. ”

The largest faction in Lithuanian Seimas has now been formed by the previously considered marginal party “Union of Lithuanian Peasants and Greens”. Its leader Ramunas Karbauskis, whom the Polish press has for some reason dubbed “the pro-Russian populist,” has already declared the continuity of the political line of Lithuania. “We believe that foreign policy should be continued,” Karbauskis said in an interview with the portal DELFI.

At the same time, the leader of the winning party has already announced that negotiations will be held soon with Warsaw to resolve the accumulated problems. A lot of them. The weekly Newsweek Polska believes that relations between Warsaw and Vilnius "are in the worst condition over the past 25 years," but may deteriorate even more. The pessimism of the Polish weekly is caused not only by the economic contradictions of the two countries, but also by the attitude of the new Lithuanian deputies to national minorities. Here the largest diaspora is Polish.

Historically, it was formed after the accession to Lithuania (in accordance with the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact) of the Vilna (Vilnius) Territory. In the turbulent years of perestroika, a movement of “autonomists” arose in these lands, which advocated the creation of Polish autonomy. In the summer of 1990, the II Congress of People’s Deputies of the local councils of the Vilna district adopted a resolution establishing the Polish National Territory within the Republic of Lithuania. The delegates to the USSR and Lithuania Supreme Councils declared the 10 agreement of October 1939 of the year between the USSR and Lithuania (on the transfer of the Vilnius region to Lithuania) illegal because it is based on the "Molotov-Ribbentrop pact". However, the decisions of the Vilna congress itself were declared illegal. The relevant decree was adopted on this occasion by the then Supreme Council of Lithuania. So it calmed down.

In recent years, this topic has been under serious pressure from Polish politicians. Lithuanian independence brought back old grievances and insoluble contradictions. Here are your accounts. For example, Lithuanians remember the atrocities of the Army of Kraeva in the Vilna region in the same way as the Poles are crimes in the Volyn region of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army.

Experts say: Lithuanians treat local Poles even worse than Russians. This clash was explained by the ideologist of Lithuanian nationalism, Romualdas Ozolas: “Russians in Lithuania say they live on Lithuanian soil. Lithuanian Poles claim to live on Polish soil. ”

In fact, prior to the annexation of Lithuania by the Vilensky Territory in its capital Vilna, the Lithuanians comprised at most two percent of the population. Poles prevailed among the inhabitants of the region. Today they have not lost their advantage. For example, in the areas to the south and east of Vilnius, the Poles from 60 to 80% of the population. In the capital of Lithuania itself, the number of inhabitants of the titular nation over the years approached 60%, but almost 20% remained of Poles.

Peaceful cohabitation of two nations violates the aspiration of the Lithuanian authorities to unify the nation. Here and Lithuanian spelling of Polish surnames, and the rejection of bilingual plates with the names of streets and localities, and the Lituanization of Polish schools in Lithuania with the obligatory teaching of several subjects in the Lithuanian language and other national joys.

Poles are looking for protection from this in Warsaw. There has already been created a congress of people from the “Oriental cress” (“Eastern outskirts”). So the Poles call the territories of the western regions of Ukraine, Belarus and Lithuania, which were part of Poland from 1918 to 1939. Even the special fund Kompania Kresowa has been established.

Recently, his representatives announced plans to hold a conference on the movement of Polish “autonomists” in Lithuania at the Polish Sejm. Deputies of the Kukiz'15 parliamentary club joined the activists of the foundation. It is clear that the event will be built on the same principles that are already reflected in the joint declaration of the legislators of Ukraine and Poland. After all, the initiative to hold the conference “Kresam” arose in the course of agreeing the text of the document, which had so much concerned Ukrainian nationalist Yuri Shukhevych.

Poland persistently promotes its idea to return the lands lost before the war and form the fourth Rzeczpospolita. The provisions on the illegality of the rejection of its eastern territories and the "crime of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact" have already been fixed in the documents of the PACE and the European Parliament. Now they are migrating to bilateral agreements with their neighbors.

The politicians of old Europe refer to the eastern plans of Poland with a certain degree of condescension and call them not “a strategy, but an“ improvisation ”. They do not believe in the reunification of Warsaw with the "Oriental armchairs". At first glance, the way it is. It’s only a lot of surprises that have come to know the world lately, when countries collapsed and borders were redrawn, and political improvisations gave rise to a new historical reality.

It is not excluded that the current Eastern policy of Poland will still surprise us, and at the same time the Europeans indulgent towards Warsaw, with their unexpected results ...
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  1. jjj
    +2
    31 October 2016 13: 10
    Everything goes to the fact that they will soon clash among themselves. The smartest will begin to beg back to the family of fraternal peoples
    1. +2
      31 October 2016 13: 27
      Do not "fight" ..., limit themselves to rhetoric.
    2. +13
      31 October 2016 14: 08
      In the order of delirium :)
      Imagine the picture: a Pole comes into the house of a UNA-UNSO veteran, Bandera and others, and says: he went from here, cattle, this is my house, my land, your gladness gave me everything. And this banderlog replies: and you went out of the blue - all this was given to me by the SOVIET AUTHORITY.
      1. jjj
        +2
        31 October 2016 18: 10
        Meanwhile, in Poland went to schools bullying Ukrainian children. They are called Bandera. Ukrainian activists complain that they are threatened by Poles
  2. +11
    31 October 2016 13: 20
    This situation is just a treasure! It would be necessary for our foreign ministries (and not only) to actively develop, help, so to speak, with the right choice! We must adopt the methods of the "partners" and do not hesitate to pit the pshek against the Lithuanians!
  3. +1
    31 October 2016 13: 27
    Nothing, I think soon the people will begin to remember Taras Bulba!
    1. +4
      31 October 2016 16: 10
      The people living in Western and Central Ukraine, as well as people from these territories, will never remember Taras Bulba. For them, Russian enemies have always been and are.
  4. +2
    31 October 2016 13: 28
    It would be great if the Poles really, at the level of their Foreign Ministry, would have made territorial claims to Ukraine.
    But this, unfortunately, will not happen. Big Brother won't let them laughing because - is not profitable.
    1. 0
      31 October 2016 17: 38
      Quote: Steam Train
      It would be great if the Poles really, at the level of their Foreign Ministry, would have made territorial claims to Ukraine.
      But this, unfortunately, will not happen. Big Brother will not allow them, because - it is not profitable.

      Yes, there is not so much the "big brother" will not allow, as the EU, because territorial claims in such a time will follow from Germany to Poland too. So no one will take the land from anyone directly.
      It can be assumed that this topic will initially be implemented in the form of creating national autonomies on the territory of Ukraine, in which the interests of those involved in Hungary, Romania, and Poland will be consolidated, and in the future, it is likely that the issue will be resolved through a referendum in these autonomies on voluntary accession to the designated countries. So to speak through the will of the people !!!
      It seems so that soon the topic of Europe’s non-recognition of the Crimean referendum will be resolved in favor of its recognition in order to use this precedent in resolving territorial claims with Ukraine but already Poland, Hungary and Romania.
      So the partition Ukraine seems not to be avoided.
    2. +1
      31 October 2016 19: 21
      Quote: Steam Train
      It would be great if the Poles really, at the level of their Foreign Ministry, would have designated territorial claims against Ukraine

      There is no reason: the Pact to the state of today's borders of Poland, Lithuania and the Ruins has nothing to do: they were established by the victorious countries of WWII in Yalta and Potsdam, where the Pact was not mentioned at all.
      1. 0
        31 October 2016 19: 26
        Quote: Aleksander
        The pact has nothing to do with the state of today's borders of Poland, Lithuania and the Ruins: they were established by the victorious countries of WWII in Yalta and Potsdam, where the Pact was not mentioned at all.

        Do not make people laugh with your absolute ignorance

        Tasks

        All decisions of Yalta in general concerned two problems. Firstly, it was necessary to draw new state borders on the territory, recently occupied by the Third Reich. At the same time, it was necessary to establish unofficial, but generally recognized by all parties, demarcation lines between the spheres of influence of the Allies - a matter that was already begun in Tehran. Secondly, the allies were well aware that after the disappearance of a common enemy, the forced unification of the West and the Bolsheviks would lose all meaning, and therefore it was necessary to create procedures to guarantee the invariability of the dividing lines drawn on the world map.

        Redistribution of borders

        In this regard, Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin managed to find a common language on almost all issues.

        Poland

        The USSR received the western border with Poland along the so-called “Curzon line”, established back in 1920, with a retreat from it in some areas from 5 to 8 km in favor of Poland. In fact, the border returned to the situation at the time of the partition of Poland between Germany and the USSR in 1939 under the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
        http://bigwar.msk.ru/pages/history/yalta.html

        More developed on the problem, here
        https://topwar.ru/68219-yaltinskaya-konferenciya-
        pozvolila-rossii-vpervye-za-tysyacheletie-sozdat-
        na-neskolko-desyatiletiy-bezopasnuyu-granicu-v-ev
        rope.html
  5. +2
    31 October 2016 13: 28
    We will not interfere with the Poles. this will strengthen the friendship between dill and the meadow. and then we will turn all this misunderstanding into a Polish-Ukrainian province, the problem will only remain. and then the traffic police - what numbers in the corner of the license plate to assign to this area.
  6. +3
    31 October 2016 13: 29
    Belarusian Brest and Grodno are important to me, and Poles are taking away Galicia and Vilno-Nehai
    1. +2
      31 October 2016 14: 16
      you can’t get enough of these volosts.
      In addition, you freely dispose of foreign lands ..
      1. +2
        31 October 2016 16: 05
        Not us, but Lenin, with a gang of his accomplices, distributed the lands that Russia had conquered, while losing millions of people.
        1. +1
          31 October 2016 16: 08
          It is you who, having committed rebellion in February 17.
          It is you, the Provisional Government, that the independence of Poland is guaranteed.
          It is you, the culprits of the Civil.
          1. 0
            31 October 2016 16: 48
            And what about the church in the 14th century?
    2. +1
      31 October 2016 17: 49
      Quote: maximNNX
      Belarusian Brest and Grodno are important to me, and Poles are taking away Galicia and Vilno-Nehai

      Don’t worry.
      By the way, only in Ukraine, probably, after the collapse of the USSR, the procedures for demarcating the border were not carried out, the rest probably did these procedures. And the dill had no time, they took away the legacy. So, in fact, there may be a wagon and a cart against them, because they are still in the Ukrainian SSR territorially, for which the USSR was the guarantor, and then Russia as the legal successor with which they "fight" and they finally decommunized the Ukrainian SSR to the edren phene. Something suggests that Russia, as a legal successor and guarantor, will have nothing against the division of this walk.
  7. +1
    31 October 2016 13: 31
    Aggressive Ukrainians will attack a peaceful Polish radio station and NATO will have to give a decent response to the aggression of the Ukrainian Muscovites, because an attack on one member means an attack on everyone. All wars begin with provocations - Lake Hassan (it is still not clear who first crossed the border there), the Winter War with Finland, the German Invasion of Poland. Either they will kill the duke (he rest in peace), then they will scatter on their own from mortars. There would be a desire, but there would always be a reason.
    1. 0
      31 October 2016 13: 37
      Quote: cunning
      All wars begin with provocations -

      Yes? And on June 22, 1941, what was the provocation or August 9, 1945? Remind
      1. +4
        31 October 2016 13: 48
        On the night of 21 to 22, the German ambassador handed a note to the Soviet government on the concentration of Soviet troops on the border with Germany. Apparently, the TASS statement of June 13, 1941, the German government did not believe, because how could one explain the peaceful concentration of 12000 Soviet tanks on the border and the millions of shells that German artillerymen shot from Russian guns before 1944. Reminded? For more information, see the monograph of Army General S.P. Ivanov in the book The Initial Period of the War and in the memoirs of the German General Müller - Gillebrandt, German Army.
        1. +4
          31 October 2016 16: 09
          Quote: cunning
          Reminded?

          Delirium Rezun and corned beef? And what?
          1. 0
            31 October 2016 16: 16
            Quote: The Bloodthirster
            Quote: cunning
            Reminded?

            Delirium Rezun and corned beef? And what?

            And there are no more arguments (your thoughts)? By the way, if by the letters of the Russian alphabet, the word "delirium" acquires a wonderful primordial meaning - the Gods Recommended Good.
            1. +2
              31 October 2016 16: 19
              Rezun and Solonin, B. Sokolov and other Svanidza

              Hang your ears. Rumor has come to you.
              And which of you does not eagerly catch rumors!
              I rush from east to sunset,
              And the wind serves me as a horse on the way.
              To all the copies of the earth I deliver
              News of the affairs of the globe.
              I made a cloak for myself from tongues
              So that they lie in all the dialects of the world.
              There is no fabrication of such slander,
              Which I wouldn’t clog up my ears.
              I'm talking about peace on the eve of war
              And I scare the arms.
              In the days of silence when the earth is full
              Any completely different concern.
              Rumor is a pipe. Fear plays on her
              Guess, incredulity and envy.


              Do you need arguments?
              Read
              http://www.liveinternet.ru/users/va-sss-a/post327
              751277 /
              Arguments from under the bin in the performance of Rezun and others, do not offer.
              1. 0
                31 October 2016 16: 33
                Each regimental library of the Soviet Army had a mandatory set of memoirs from Clausewitz, a 1941 edition to Brezhnev. I re-read the memoirs of our and German generals as a nachkar. S.P. Ivanova already read as a company, and the special officer grumbled, which they say you read all crap, it’s better to read the Communist of the armed forces. When the monograph of General Ivanov fell into the hands of the Initial Period of the War, I understood how his stupid performers, led by Zhukov, framed Stalin. Rezun gives absolutely true facts, but he draws conclusions in false. My conclusion is that the war to exterminate the white race was to the benefit of the forces that are now promoting globalization around the world.
                1. +4
                  31 October 2016 18: 09
                  cannabis
                  1) war of extermination white race was beneficial to the forces that are now promoting globalization around the world????????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - so Hitler was a NEGR ??????????????????
                  He, poor little one, bred a white race, cultivated practically, and it turned out what it turned out, he worked for blacks ................
                  Your first part contradicts the second, either extermination of the white race, or globalization. Naturally, there are few yellow and black races in the multinational corporation ....

                  2) ".. The Finnish-Soviet military conflict and the experience of the outbreak of the Second World War showed that The Soviet Armed Forces need serious reorganization and rearmament in order to successfully wage a great war with such a strong and experienced adversary as fascist Germany was. It required time, and it remained extremely few. Therefore, the Soviet government was confronted with the need to conduct very cautious and flexible foreign policy, not allowing the Soviet Union to be drawn into the war prematurelyand make the most of the time allotted to him by the term to bring the country and the Armed Forces in readiness to repel aggression .... "
                  You somehow very carelessly read .....

                  ps Poor guard - in which you were the commander ...
                  1. 0
                    31 October 2016 19: 30
                    Oh! An excellent student cut through! How hard it is for your excellent students to live hard - reading, memorizing and quoting other people's thoughts, without the slightest ability to understand what they read. This is apparently the fate of all the mediocre honors - to write dissertations on someone else’s plowed virgin lands Tolstoy, Pushkin, Rezun, Klimov and miserable antics over what they can’t understand. It was probably written by Grigory Klimov about you, that the devil is a terrible mockingbird, but he hates it when they laugh at him. And you don’t need ... you don’t need to quote the journal Communist of the Armed Forces ...... Or maybe you darling here on a salary, well then! keep quoting and refuting.
                    1. +4
                      31 October 2016 20: 34
                      cannabis
                      Lord !!!! Give some reason to the man who just shouted what a good S.P. Ivanov "... Additional information can be obtained in the monograph of General of the Army SP Ivanov in the book The Initial Period of the War ...", "When General Ivanov's monograph The Initial Period of the War fell into my hands, I understood how Stalin was framed by his stupid performers in led by Zhukov. " and right there on the straight QUOTATION from clause 1 "Chapter Eight. Preparation of the Soviet Union to repel fascist aggression" given by me - gave out on the mountain: "And no need ... no need to quote magazine (!!!!!) Kommunist (!!) of the Armed Forces ...... "
                      That's how all the fans of Rezun have their brains calculated, they think one thing, they do another, they think the third, they say the fourth - and at the same time they want to be considered mentally normal, sane people ...

                      zs Thank God, I served in the SA of the USSR and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, and I know for sure that there were sooooo few such "experts" in the army (although, of course, they were completely useless, they were, but they did not make the weather) ...

                      zyzy Although- "I am tormented by vague doubts !!" about nachkar ...
                      1. +1
                        31 October 2016 21: 06
                        Konoprav, from your bourd I did not understand who shot whom? recourse
                      2. 0
                        1 November 2016 07: 52
                        How many letters are printed, but there is no sense and arguments. No screeching, or is this taught in the Russian army, in which tankers, having reached the rank of lieutenant colonel, never sat at the levers due to the lack of diesel fuel? Himself from which, go from political officers. Well, yes, "commissars in dusty helmets." As it is in your memoirs: Comrade political instructor, cartridges have run out! - But you are a member of the Komsomol! ...... and the machine gun started scrolling again .....
                      3. +1
                        2 November 2016 14: 57
                        And right. Comparison of the positions of a company (company commander) and a captain (guard commander) is, to put it mildly, incorrect. In our army, the company went as a commander, and sergeants went as a commander.
                  2. +1
                    31 October 2016 21: 17
                    Here I do not understand.
                    The Finnish-Soviet military conflict and the experience of the outbreak of World War II showed that the Soviet Armed Forces needed serious reorganization and rearmament in order to successfully wage a great war with such a strong and experienced adversary as fascist Germany was. It took time, and it was extremely small.

                    That is, the USSR fought in the Finnish-Soviet war, 3-4 months in the Second World War, figured what was happening, and then jump back into the past? belay And let's fight with a run in the future? Comrades, what's going on!
                    1. +1
                      31 October 2016 21: 52
                      Well, also to treat you feel -From Konoprava apparently perk ..
                      WWII (not WWII !!!!) started earlier - than the Finnish-Soviet military conflict ...
                      1. +1
                        31 October 2016 22: 11
                        Firstly, not Finnish, but Finnish. Secondly, we already fought in Spain, where our shortcomings were revealed (at least in technical), incl. the beginning of the second world is finally here with nothing.
        2. 0
          31 October 2016 16: 54
          Yeah, and all this horde on the other side of the USSR’s border came to barbecue.
      2. +5
        31 October 2016 13: 48
        June 22, 1941 - this is the final provocation to bring Hitler to power (he could have been any other, if only he had agreed to fight with Russia, then the USSR) arranged by Great Britain, the USA and France.
  8. +1
    31 October 2016 14: 04
    These two “friendly nations” can fight each other and then at the same table drink the halbiter of schnapps and make friends on a new one, but there’s no reason for us to get confused.
    1. +2
      31 October 2016 14: 12
      They are united by hatred of Russians and Russia. It is stronger than love.
  9. +1
    31 October 2016 14: 27
    That is, the whole article can be pressed into a sentence
    Poland persistently promotes its idea to return the lands lost before the war and form the fourth Rzeczpospolita. The provisions on the illegality of the rejection of its eastern territories and the "crime of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact" have already been fixed in the documents of the PACE and the European Parliament. Now they are migrating to bilateral agreements with their neighbors.

    From which it follows that now Poland and Ukraine will quarrel because of the "Bandera". Wonderful opus.
    Let's do it this way. Today Poland for Ukraine is a kind of Romania for Moldova or the Russian Federation for the Republic of Belarus (quite recently the Russian Federation was in the place of Poland, but it does not need anything in this life). That is, a kind of "guardian". The little things of life like the Volyn massacre and the confrontation between Bandera and the Home Army are the past.
    The article states that the OUN Upa heroes (although the leaders were not returned the title of Heroes and did the right thing), but THIS does not determine the policy of UKRAINE. You should not think that disagreements will lead to the collapse of the formation of the Eastern Bloc (by the way, thanks in large part to Moscow-Anti-Russian) with a clear focus.
    Constantly, the Russian media scare us with the territorial claims of Poland, Romania, Hungary ... but in fact the most important claim is with Russia. And even war (as strange as all our relations).
    But they continue to scare - then evil Poland will come and take Lviv.
    Although if the article is for domestic consumption where the Russian Federation is always good, but Poland is sleeping and sees how to capture Lviv, then yes. I agree, fit. Then the question is - why print it at all? Russia officially Ukraine is not needed. And some Russians consider us Bandera and will probably even be glad of such a turn.
    Relations with Poland and our neighbors are our problem. We have to solve it. I do not want to hurt anyone, but with one very fraternal neighbor (or one people) we also have problems of a much more serious nature.
    1. +4
      31 October 2016 14: 33
      Yes, we also have problems with a neighbor whom we once considered a brother. Our brother-in-law was singing a scorched koryorylovka, but a bull to popper. He imagined himself drunk, hell knows what, forgot his roots ...
      Well, nothing ...
      Only now he’s still brainwashed ... he wants to be a servant to the unions of the Gayropeisky, but to give his little cookie for cookies ...
      And this this drunken brother-in-law sees how the gay men come to his brother by his insulting, and take everything away in his favor ...

      Drinkers are usually treated ... but I suppose that the brother does not want to be treated, he wants his sad life not on a glass, so on the needle to finish ..
      1. +1
        31 October 2016 15: 02
        so he himself says that they are our brothers
    2. +4
      31 October 2016 14: 44
      These "problems of a much more serious nature" consist in the fact that you have a mess there again, and the Russians are to blame for everything? or that you have 30 Russian soldiers fighting there, and the telephones are again on detente? I repeat once again - if the Russian army entered the war with your fake troops, then on the second day on the border with Poland, the border posts would have to be changed. and there is no need for "Yaroslavna's crying", now, yourself.
      and, yes, three billion dollars with interest when you return?
      1. +3
        31 October 2016 15: 00
        Well, after their Geletey or Getel (there was such a Minister of Defense) blurted out that nuclear weapons were used in Lugansk ...
        There really are cyborgs ... so they’ll grind 30 million Russian soldiers, don’t delay (s)
        They dug up the Black Sea, and their Cossacks on wooden submarines patrolled the Turkish coast ...

        But here is something they want to officially recognize prostitution is somehow silent ...
    3. +3
      31 October 2016 16: 03
      Quote: Retvizan
      Let's do it this way. Today Poland for Ukraine is a kind of Romania for Moldova or the Russian Federation for the Republic of Belarus (quite recently the Russian Federation was in the place of Poland, but it does not need anything in this life). That is, a kind of "guardian". The little things of life like the Volyn massacre and the confrontation between Bandera and the Home Army are the past.

      An absolutely wrong comparison. Poland pursues "guardianship" primarily for material motives. In contrast to the Russian Federation in relation to the Republic of Belarus and Ukraine, which, first of all, had political motives and to a greater extent trade.
      Quote: Retvizan
      Poland sleeps and sees how to capture Lviv then yes.

      The "conditional" attitude is as follows. As soon as the Poles can prove in the international court that the Volyn massacre is genocide. And so it was. Then lawsuits will immediately fly to Ukraine, as the lawyers.
      Moreover, it will be enough to win one in order to use the "case law" for the rest.
      Polish radicals are actively speculating on this fact.
      But to judge is that, a lot of things have been preserved, the same historical part of Lviv and even factories with estates.
      Quote: Retvizan
      Constantly, the Russian media scare us with the territorial claims of Poland, Romania, Hungary ... but in fact the most important claim is with Russia.

      The main complaint is the weakness of their own state. And this weakness is manifested a vivid example of this is the Serpent Island. In fact, they began to tear off the "pieces" back then. Well, then, as they say more.
      Quote: Retvizan
      You should not think that disagreements will lead to the collapse of the formation of the Eastern Bloc (by the way, thanks in large part to Moscow-Anti-Russian) with a clear focus.

      Poland is trying to sit on two chairs. And "shit" the Russian Federation for which it will receive "Coca-Cola" from the West and have time to snatch a piece of territories / compensations on the sly. How the Romanians did it. By the way, the latter do not mind taking more. And then, how it goes. The fight will begin, they will row with both hands, in any case they will give a little Coca-Cola. Will not start, they will speculate "anti-Russian orientation" to the last cent.
    4. +2
      2 November 2016 15: 04
      You have problems in your head, where there is devastation. You have problems with your own people. Part of which refuses to recognize Maidan values. And until you understand this, while you will attribute all your worthless efforts to Russian aggression, you will be European Somalia, European Chamber No. 6. And after all the same picture is here in VO. We are not arguing on Ukrainian sites? And you, in Russian, are essentially promoting the idea that Russia is an aggressor. First you need to look at yourself loved ones, and then talk about others.
  10. +1
    31 October 2016 15: 06
    Quote: jjj
    Everything goes to the fact that they will soon clash among themselves. The smartest will begin to beg back to the family of fraternal peoples

    We do not need such a family, we need a state with regions, territories, provinces and without allied, autonomous and other names. In general, why swear and argue about pacts and contracts? There the hell will roll. You just need to go back to the pre-war borders. Before the World War, everything was clear and no one argued with Russia about the borders, everyone was happy. So, the borders, in the European part of Russia, need to be returned to the form they had before 1914. And in the east, let it remain as it is.
    1. 0
      31 October 2016 16: 00
      I personally do not care, they will take, they will not take. Galicia has never been part of the Russian Empire, and why Stalin joined it, I don’t understand. They did not consider themselves Russian 700 years and will never consider. They have hatred of Russians at the genetic level .. For all ethnic conflicts on the territory of the former Soviet Union, the Bolshevik-Leninists comrades are responsible. It was they who invented national formations, without bothering themselves with true ethnic boundaries. It is especially interesting that the lands inhabited by Russians and Cossacks were torn apart by these new formations. Stalin and Dzerzhinsky were opposed, they argued that this would lead to nationalism in the newly created entities. But comrade Lenin and Trotsky won this dispute, we see the result (Donbass, Transnistria, Chechnya, the events in Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, and obviously this is not the end of the series of these conflicts). So Lenin's national policy ultimately led to the collapse of the great country. We started from Poland, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and ended (or maybe not yet) with Ukraine, Belarus ..... So that’s not the glory of the CPSU.
      1. +4
        31 October 2016 16: 16
        Quote: captain
        Galicia has never been part of the Russian Empire, and why Stalin joined it, I don’t understand.

        Learn History.
        Quote: captain
        They did not consider themselves Russian about 700 years old and will never consider it. They have a hatred of Russians at the genetic level ..

        Frank nonsense.
        Galicia under the rule of Austria Galicia (Galician Rus) became part of the Austrian state as a crown land under the name of the Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria (Volodymeria) as a result of the first partition of Poland (1772). The borders of Galicia - the Austrian province almost completely repeated the borders of the ancient Russian Galician-Volyn principality.

        More information at http://voprosik.net/genocid-v-galicii/ © QUESTION
        Quote: captain
        It is especially interesting that the lands inhabited by Russians and Cossacks were torn apart by these new formations.

        Another nonsense. As part of a single country, the administrative borders did not matter, it was under your liberals that the administrative borders destroyed the country and now you and your kind are poisoning people.
        Quote: captain
        So Lenin's national policy ultimately led to the collapse of the great country. We started from Poland, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and finished (or maybe not yet) Ukraine, Belarus .....

        Even more nonsense. The split of the former territory of the RI is the consequences of the TEMPORARY Government.
        Again, it is necessary to cite data when, who and how did it chip?
        Under Yeltsin, the country was shattered to smithereens, do not want to answer for this?
        1. +1
          31 October 2016 17: 05
          In 1917, the Provisional Government authorized only the formation of autonomies within the united Russian Republic. After 7 on November 1917, the united Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic was formed again with autonomies in its composition.

          At the same time, the Congress of Soviets of the RSFSR granted Finland, Poland and the Baltic countries the right to secede from the Russian state in connection with the defeat in the First World War and the occupation of these territories by Germany. All other autonomies of the RSFSR did not receive such a right.

          In the 1922 year, after the victory in the Civil War and the repulsion of foreign intervention, Lenin, with the support of Trotsky, Kamenev, Zinoviev and other cosmopolitans, pushed at the Congress of Soviets the liquidation of a single state in Russia (for the first time since 1097) and the formation of a confederation of independent union states (USSR) with the right their release at any time.

          To the credit of I. Stalin, then the People’s Commissar for National Policy of the RSFSR, he personally fought against the creation of the USSR.

          The Russophobic Leninist solution worked in the 1991 year, when the USSR fell apart into separate states. The Bialowieza Agreement was concluded after the collapse of the confederation and was dedicated to the design of the division of state property and debts.

          The collapse of the united Russian state is solely the merit of the CPSU (b) / CPSU.
        2. 0
          31 October 2016 17: 22
          Comrade The Bloodthirster, well, do not shame, Galicia has never been a part of the Russian Empire. These are all the consequences of the Leninist ban on teaching Russian history at universities and schools, and they have educated liars like you. Thanks to Stalin, corrected these figures.
        3. 0
          1 November 2016 08: 00
          Lost Russia is very well written about the activities of Lenin in conjunction with the German General Staff on the incitement of nationalism and separatism in Ukraine.
  11. +1
    31 October 2016 15: 47
    Poland is persistently promoting its idea to return the lands lost before the war and form the fourth Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Provisions on the illegality of the rejection of its eastern territories and the “crime of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact”
    Go !!!! Destroy the post-war agreements and return the Danzig and other German lands to the Germans and what else Joseph Vissarionovich cut to you ....
    1. +2
      31 October 2016 15: 59
      Poland is a profession such ... the essence of which is the sale of one’s own body in order to obtain a livelihood. Now, Ukraine is also there ...
  12. +1
    31 October 2016 16: 12
    Hyonas of the hyena, they picked up the rest for Hitler, Stalin gave them part of Germany. And now they will grab the eastern armchairs and be healthy!
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  14. +2
    31 October 2016 16: 19
    No, the descendants of the victims of such subhuman people will not forget their crimes ...
  15. +2
    31 October 2016 16: 21
    Inferior Bandera, as their land only wears ...
  16. +2
    31 October 2016 17: 35
    For psheks, Ukrainians have always been second-class people, most of all panov are afraid of Russians and Germans
  17. +1
    31 October 2016 17: 37
    The division of Western Ukraine between Poland, Romania and Hungary is currently irrelevant for the simplest reason — all these countries are, in fact, mandated territories of the United States.
    Yes, Poland does not mind taking Galicia (but preferably without the local population), but its desires do not matter.
    Yes, the state collapsed in Ukraine (or, rather, criminal statehood has formed), but so far it is beneficial for the Americans to use Ukraine as an anti-Russian lever, and the Poles do not shine on the local population as cheap cannon fodder.
  18. 0
    31 October 2016 17: 47
    Quote: Damir
    Destroy the post-war agreements and return the Danzig and other German lands to the Germans and what else Joseph Vissarionovich cut to you ....

    Do not need the Germans! We gave, we will take back. Together with the eastern lands!
  19. +1
    31 October 2016 21: 24
    Dear, do you know what is most remarkable about all this mess? The most remarkable thing is that the Polish army today is not much inferior to the German one, and if we take into account the fact that Poland is increasing spending on the army, then a new Drag nach Osten may well happen, they are unlikely to climb into Russia, but they will be able to "pinch" Ukraine and the Baltic states, and Germany will "stick" its tongue into its own o ... ny due to the fact that it will not be able to conduct full-scale military operations on foreign territory (God forbid Schaub did not chop off anything from themselves).
  20. +1
    31 October 2016 23: 34
    Since 1945, these lands are no longer Polish. And since Poland is no longer an ally of the successor to the USSR, there is a lot to return to Warsaw in the east, in the west in the south-north. And in order to annex territories, Poland must conduct a victorious war, i.e. to leave NATO quickly, to win, to join, to settle, and only then to write back.
  21. +2
    1 November 2016 03: 04
    By the way, in the composition of modern Poland there are a number of completely non-Polish territories from among the so-called. "Eastern (skhidnyh) kres": these are the former Russian territories - Belostochchina and Kholmshchina (a fierce struggle was waged to preserve their Russian character before the First World War). And these are the former Rusyn lands of Austria-Hungary: Zakerzonia and Lemkivshchyna.
  22. 0
    1 November 2016 07: 55
    sabakina,
    Sabakin do not bite, here you are not tama ....
  23. +1
    1 November 2016 12: 47
    Quote: sabakina
    Firstly, not Finnish, but Finnish. Secondly, we already fought in Spain, where our shortcomings were revealed (at least in technical), incl. the beginning of the second world is finally here with nothing.

    QUOTE(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) from the work of Army General S.P. Ivanov in the book The initial period of the war.
  24. 0
    2 November 2016 16: 47
    I would love to see how they will understand each other.
  25. +1
    2 November 2016 20: 36
    I tell you how it will be. The Poles will return the land, Ukrainians do not know what they can return. We will regain Ukraine together with Poland, all to Austria, the entire Baltic States and the Balkans. We will return Alaska, we will give the Indians to Canada and the United States. Negram Africa. Well and further on the list.

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