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The US Armed Forces received for testing the first Stryker armored vehicle with an 30-mm cannon.

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General Dynamics Corporation handed over to the US Army the first prototype of an armored Stryker, armed with an uninhabited combat module with an 30-mm automatic cannon, a blog reports bmpd with reference to breakingdefense.com.




“The Stryker 30 cannon was designed and built for 15 months in accordance with the 2015 contract for the 81-US Cavalry Regiment issued in Germany in April of 2. State tests of the upgraded machines will begin in January 2017. In total, eight prototypes should be made, ”the message says.

Delivery of the entire series of armored vehicles to Europe should begin in 2018 g upon completion of the tests. The contract value was $ 329 million.

“The demand from the 2 Cavalry Regiment for equipping Stryker 30-mm cannons is directly motivated by the need to counter the numerous Russian armored vehicles BMP-2, BMP-3, BTR-82,” the publication notes.

Until now, the Straykers were equipped with the Kongsberg M151 Protector modules with an 12,7-mm M2 machine gun or an 40-mm automatic Mk 19 grenade launcher.

The upgraded car was named HM1296 Stryker ICV Dragoon. According to the resource, "the gun has dual power and ammunition in the module in 150 shells, can use remote undermining shots."

It is noted that the new module “does not have a substack compartment and is equipped with a round-the-clock duplicated fire control system”. The body of the machine is made in the Double V-Hull version with enhanced mine protection. Number of seats for the landing - 9.

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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 30 October 2016 12: 59
    +1
    What about the trunk? With a cooling system?
    1. svp67
      svp67 30 October 2016 13: 11
      +5
      Quote: Vladimirets
      What about the trunk? With a cooling system?

      To shoot 150 rounds of ammunition, the barrel should be enough. Judging by the photo, the barrel is in a thermal casing, and this is another factor in increasing the accuracy of shooting.
      1. just exp
        just exp 30 October 2016 14: 52
        +9
        on the one hand, they came up with the mind, on the other hand, I see a hefty tower in the photo and read that it is uninhabited, well, those times, I thought, it means that the whole volume of the BC is busy, I’m reading, and it’s only 150 shots, that's all. and in our armored personnel carrier it is 300 and the dimensions of the turret are minimal. but I think the engineers at Amer’s are not stupid, that means the entire ammunition in the module, but it probably is, but in the Age there is also the entire ammunition in the module, and the ammunition there are 500 shells and also 30 mm. and sizes are significantly smaller.
        is it really true that the Amervian engineers are so brilliant that easily bypass the bast and cotton engineers who do not know civilization and European values?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 30 October 2016 16: 31
          +5
          The "era" is also rather big.
          She has shells on the side and behind the tower (in a semicircle around).
          The tower is longer.
        2. Kasym
          Kasym 30 October 2016 16: 36
          +1
          Americans are not exactly puzzled by the size. "... has no turret compartment ..." - the BC is all in the turret.
          Recently in an article on VO about Amer. they wrote a new armored car (it looks like a small truck). They were not particularly obscured by compactness - by 4-5 people, but for two. hi
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 30 October 2016 19: 08
      0
      What about the barrel? I would put the question differently .. And why is it so late, the chosen high-tech nation with a combat module ??? Your opponents already have it, you will swallow dust. Although it’s a sin to hide, the Stryker is a reliable machine.
  2. OLD FART
    OLD FART 30 October 2016 13: 00
    +6
    The upgraded Stryker with a 30 mm cannon was designed and built within 15 months in accordance with the supply contract issued in April 2015

    Maidan waiting in the US?
    1. cniza
      cniza 30 October 2016 14: 46
      +5
      They are getting ready, and he will come unexpectedly.
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 30 October 2016 14: 57
        +5
        many epithets like "super", "mega", "wunder", etc.

        Is this mattresses really waiting for the Maidan? Here are the wretched and orphaned ... "Super" guns, "mega" airplanes and "wunder" waffles will not save the "exceptional".
  3. Giant thought
    Giant thought 30 October 2016 13: 00
    +2
    Again mattress covers tear our technical solutions.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 30 October 2016 13: 50
      +6
      Quote: Thought Giant
      our technical solutions.

      Which ones? And is it so important when equipping your own army with samples that fully comply with the requirements of this same army.
    2. MarioG
      MarioG 30 October 2016 15: 15
      +6
      when did this uninhabited module become yours? Patent to the studio.
  4. svp67
    svp67 30 October 2016 13: 00
    +2
    The race of "uninhabited calibers" has started ... But this "upgrade" is far from "Derivation".
    1. karabas-barabas
      karabas-barabas 31 October 2016 03: 50
      0
      Derivation of the layout is likely, otherwise they would have shot at the camera. And without a serious SLA and telescopic ammunition with a programmable shell, it is possible to roll out the ZSU-57-2 with the same success. And this is a real, finished product that leaves no doubt about the declared performance characteristics.
  5. demiurg
    demiurg 30 October 2016 13: 10
    0
    There is a video how such sheds ride through the mud?
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 30 October 2016 13: 20
      +3
      There are, of course, many epithets like "super", "mega", "wunder", etc., but you can see how he drives through puddles.
      1. demiurg
        demiurg 30 October 2016 13: 27
        14
        Nowhere on normal dirt does he ride. In the puddles, yes. But this is not dirt, this is pampering. Dirt is when the driver pours a thick slurry. And ride dry land, and the locomotive can be taught.
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 30 October 2016 13: 37
        10
        From your video: "During the night, you can overcome 150 km, and upon arrival, immediately go into battle".
        Nifiga did not understand. Do they have such short nights or ride so quietly?
        And then, the height is two human heights .... Yes, they said in the video, "it doesn't shake" .... Apparently, the main thing for them is not to shake them. And then all the morning coffee will climb out. The truth is again it is not clear through which hole it will climb?
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 30 October 2016 13: 49
          +5
          Quote: sabakina
          From your video:

          No, not mine. smile
          Quote: sabakina
          Do they have such short nights or ride so quietly?

          Simply, if you drive 250, you need to sleep before the fight, or maybe they meant the June night. what
          Quote: sabakina
          Yes, in the video they said, "does not shake" .... Apparently, the main thing for them is not to shake them.

          In general, this is not bad; you don’t have to fly a machine with a machine gun.
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 30 October 2016 13: 56
            +3
            About the "does not shake".
            I have not been to the Second World War, I know only from newsreels. And judging by the newsreels, there are no highways in the war, and here the wheel is inferior to the track in terms of smoothness. No?
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 30 October 2016 14: 13
              +2
              Quote: sabakina
              the wheel is inferior to the track in smoothness. No?

              There is no need to watch newsreels to understand this. Comparing tactile sensations in MTLB, GTS, GTT and BRDM, BTR-70, not to mention all-terrain vehicles, you understand this in your own skin.
        2. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 30 October 2016 14: 10
          +4
          Quote: sabakina
          Do they have such short nights or ride so quietly?

          How quietly they rode could be observed during their marches in Eastern Europe. A 2200-km march to the Baltic countries and back to the base in Germany, marches to the Czech Republic and Romania. The average speed of 150-200 km per day (with stops for exercises and demonstration of equipment) is a decent speed for a military convoy.
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 30 October 2016 14: 26
            +1
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            The average speed of 150-200 km per day (with stops for exercises and a demonstration of equipment) is a decent speed for a military convoy.

            Well, by the way, our paratroopers in the famous throw on Pristina per night went 600km.
            1. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt 30 October 2016 15: 37
              +3
              Yes, we could have done it even faster, if it hadn't been for the speed of "seeping" through the crowds of Serbs with flowers who came out to greet our soldiers. good
              But I just said that dragoons can withstand decent speed, their speed fits into the tactics of their application. And besides, it was not just a XNUMX-hour transition for the speed record and an advertising demonstration of their military presence in Europe. This was just one of the fragments The NATO-led training war on our western border. Through this link you can see some of these sinister events linked in time into a single plan --- http://www.ves.lv/malenkaya-uchebnaya-vojna-nato-
              repetiruet-voennyj-konflikt-s-rossiej /
      3. Bloodsucker
        Bloodsucker 30 October 2016 19: 23
        +1
        50 caliber, from which his armor-12.7 protects from NSVS ??
        In this case, the BTR80 with 14,5 KPVT will burn this barn without hesitation.
        Speed ​​up to one hundred km per hour, well, so the BTR-80 runs 120 km per hour.
        Put the Baikal module on the BTR and what will happen with this much-praised Stryker = a bunch of burnt iron?
        Quote: Vladimirets
        There are, of course, many epithets like "super", "mega", "wunder", etc., but you can see how he drives through puddles.

        Yeah .. "impressive" cross-country ability, I would like to see this miracle of Amerov's production on the plasticine road near Samashki in 1994-1995 ..
  6. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 30 October 2016 13: 11
    +4
    "It is noted that the new module" does not have a turret compartment "////

    How did they place 150 pieces of 30 mm shells? On the sides of the gun?
    1. svp67
      svp67 30 October 2016 13: 15
      +5
      Quote: voyaka uh
      How did they place 150 pieces of 30 mm shells? On the sides of the gun?

      Well, where else. Two strips of 75 each, not much space required to accommodate them. But it just looks like nothing else could be crammed there, and a machine gun would not have hurt ... In any case, there was a place for him on our Boomerang, and not only for him ...
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 30 October 2016 13: 15
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      How did they place 150 pieces of 30 mm shells? On the sides of the gun?

      In the pockets.
    3. Pirogov
      Pirogov 30 October 2016 13: 20
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      "It is noted that the new module" does not have a turret compartment "////

      How did they place 150 pieces of 30 mm shells? On the sides of the gun?

      The tower is uninhabited, so there will be enough space for 150 shells, especially 30mm caliber.
    4. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 30 October 2016 14: 10
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      "It is noted that the new module" does not have a turret compartment "////
      How did they place 150 pieces of 30 mm shells? On the sides of the gun?

      Just like we will have on "Eitan". tongue
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 30 October 2016 15: 46
        +2
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Just like we will have on "Eitan"

        Will you have this "Eitan"? You yourself are unlikely to be able to produce it, and the United States will not allow it, because it is not in vain that they increased their annual "handout" to you to three billion eight hundred million dollars so that you can buy everything from them.
        1. Wiskar
          Wiskar 30 October 2016 20: 36
          0
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Will you have this "Eitan"?


          Will be. All this is exactly what’s going, considering the need for it. Now they will pass the tests and begin to produce.

          Quote: quilted jacket
          You yourself are hardly able to produce it


          Of course in a condition. Moreover, the production of a new car is 50% less than the Namera or any other wheeled armored personnel carrier. This will allow equipping the Israeli infantry with a reliable vehicle in a short time.

          Quote: quilted jacket
          The United States will not allow this, because it is not in vain that they increased their annual "handout" to you to three billion eight hundred million dollars so that you can buy everything from them.


          Nonsense. If you read where this money goes + the purchase of new airplanes, it is obvious that the United States will allow Israel to do so, and so there is something to buy from the United States.
          And it’s not a handout. You apparently do not know what this word means and do not have the slightest idea about the essence of the relationship between the United States and Israel regarding this assistance.
    5. lelikas
      lelikas 30 October 2016 14: 25
      +7
      That is how
      -
  7. avt
    avt 30 October 2016 13: 11
    +4
    Why so! ? Well, such a "thin" tool! "What are they? They don't let their attaché to the exhibitions and don't know about the 57mm" Baikal "?? wassat bully Yes, at least here they read in the comments like
    Quote: svp67
    ... But this "upgrade" is far from "Derivation".
    bully
    1. svp67
      svp67 30 October 2016 13: 19
      +4
      Quote: avt
      Well, such a "thin" tool!

      Judging by the photo, this is still that "barn", they can shoot on the second floors at zero lift of the cannon, and now imagine if there is something powerful, it can turn it over at the positions of the tower 15-00 or 45-00, or when the tower turns at "three" and "nine o'clock."
      Look, even on the proposed video, where the "barn" received a 105 mm cannon, the shooting is actually carried out only in the sector 25-00 ... 35-00, that is, from "eleven to an hour"
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 30 October 2016 14: 21
        +1
        Quote: avt
        Why so! ? Well, such a "thin" tool !?
        Obviously, the persistent stereotypes formed in the 2nd regiment and in the rest of the dragoon units during operations against the Iraqi army, the 2nd regiment actively and effectively used anti-tank guided missiles against tanks, making it its "main caliber". In support of this, I will quote the words of the regiment commander (Meyer):
        "... the cannon is not designed to counter armored vehicles, but it will provide" an increased level of resistance. Stryker units and dismounted infantry will continue to use Javelin anti-tank missiles in clashes with tanks and armored platforms, and the 30-mm cannon designed to defeat light support vehicles.
      2. karabas-barabas
        karabas-barabas 31 October 2016 03: 59
        0
        Quote: svp67
        Look, even on the proposed video, where the "barn" received a 105 mm cannon, the shooting is actually carried out only in the sector 25-00 ... 35-00, that is, from "eleven to an hour"


        Come on, compose, there is a full video where they shoot from any position of the gun to the body. If from the AMOS, a twin 120mm mortar direct fire from the side of the Patria armored personnel carrier fired and nothing, then others, smaller caliber without any problems suspension will swallow.
    2. Sagittarius
      Sagittarius 30 October 2016 13: 40
      +4
      Another American freak, not otherwise.
      1. Kondratko
        Kondratko 30 October 2016 14: 15
        +7
        Here, too, I see, the matrases do not have a technique, then a kind of "Sherman" turns out ...

        "Disassembled, assembled according to drawings -" Sherman ", again disassembled, assembled according to drawings - again" Sherman "turned out,"
        - They probably forget about file revision all the time. )
    3. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 30 October 2016 14: 12
      0
      Quote: avt
      Why so! ? Well, such a "thin" tool !?
      fine. Not with the tanks they fight.
      1. avt
        avt 30 October 2016 19: 25
        0
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        fine. Not with the tanks they fight.

        Just look at what I wrote about Baikal, especially when there were still disadvantages. laughing When the riotous heads with this "Bakal" well, if not the aircraft carriers, then the "Abrams" were going to crumble exactly. For the armored personnel carrier there is much more.
  8. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 30 October 2016 13: 20
    +2
    At least once they honestly wrote that they are preparing to fight directly with us. Only this module is up to the same door - and without that it is not the lowest, the striker has become even higher and more noticeable - it will not work to be confused with another armored vehicle, the target came out what we need. And, all the same, up to "veins" or "nona" he is oh, how far in terms of weapons and maneuverability.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 30 October 2016 13: 27
      0
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      patency.

      Well, "Nona" then, due to its small mass, may surpass it, but "Vienna" because of the narrow gusli is a big question. request
    2. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 30 October 2016 14: 27
      +2
      Quote: Exorcist Liberoids
      And, all the same, to "veins" or "nona" he is oh, how far in terms of weapons and maneuverability.

      What you cited as an example, completely different tasks - this is SAO.
      This Striker should be compared more with wheeled armored personnel carriers. We have armored personnel carriers 82, 90, as well as "Boomerang". Of course, the armor that protects against a 50mm projectile is impressive, but the absence of a machine gun is a drawback, since it is not very effective to shoot at all targets in a row from a 30mm cannon. And 150 rounds for an automatic cannon is not that much. But shells with remote detonation are interesting.
      1. hirurg
        hirurg 30 October 2016 14: 57
        +4
        Quote: x.andvlad
        Of course, 50mm projectile armor is impressive

        No no. It protects against 50 CALIBER, and this is 12,7 mm - somehow not very.
        1. x.andvlad
          x.andvlad 30 October 2016 15: 22
          +2
          Then, sorry, but this is not very ... I think our "Boomerang" armor will be no worse (and maybe better). Only now the rates of production are different for us and for them.
          1. hirurg
            hirurg 30 October 2016 16: 05
            +1
            Quote: x.andvlad
            Only here the pace of production is still different for us and for them.

            That is OK.
            You can quickly tear off the thread.
            Yes, and there’s no need to rivet a lot of garbage.
            I think everything will be as it should.
      2. avt
        avt 30 October 2016 19: 38
        0
        Quote: x.andvlad
        Of course, 50mm projectile armor

        That you shoo-oh! ?? wassat They somehow declared that the sides and sterns would hold 14.5 mm, and 30 mm in the forehead and from 500 m. They lied to the campaign!? They lured us with the weakness of the armor from America. bully
        1. karabas-barabas
          karabas-barabas 31 October 2016 04: 09
          0
          All modern NATO armored vehicles, armored personnel carriers / infantry fighting vehicles Must hold 30mm BOBS in the forehead, and along the sides of the KPVT. 12,7 is more likely without additional. armor.
  9. Vladimir Matveyev
    Vladimir Matveyev 30 October 2016 13: 21
    0
    forms reminiscent of an armored personnel carrier 80
    1. svp67
      svp67 30 October 2016 13: 30
      +4
      Quote: Vladimir Matveev
      forms reminiscent of an armored personnel carrier 80

      In which place?
  10. 31R-US
    31R-US 30 October 2016 13: 22
    +4
    bullshit, not a car. Our everything is more beautiful, stronger and faster, etc.
  11. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 30 October 2016 13: 24
    +3

    “The demand from the 2 Cavalry Regiment for equipping Stryker 30-mm cannons is directly motivated by the need to counter the numerous Russian armored vehicles BMP-2, BMP-3, BTR-82,” the publication notes.
    So this is what you cooked for us? So what kind of "peace-loving" you are ?! Oh well...
    1. svp67
      svp67 30 October 2016 13: 33
      +2
      Quote: LÄRZ
      That means what kind of "peace-loving" you are ?!

      And for you the news that the general "struggle for peace" can not leave a stone unturned from this world
    2. Peacemaker
      Peacemaker 30 October 2016 15: 56
      0
      The BMP-2, BMP-3, BTR-82 crews are also being prepared. The goal is Barn!
  12. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 30 October 2016 13: 45
    +2
    a three-meter colossus - and you will not miss in such a
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 30 October 2016 14: 11
      +5
      Can you get close to such a shot? These are not our "blind" batters.
      "The driver has three M17 periscopes and an AN / VAS-5 night vision device. The commander of the Striker observes the combat situation through 7 M45 periscopes and separate video cameras and thermal imagers." And it comes as standard
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 30 October 2016 14: 46
        0
        Conventional RPGs, now operate up to 700 meters and this is not ATGM, those with a range in kilometers. Even the most awkward one will be able to get close.
      2. Shadow of darkness
        Shadow of darkness 30 October 2016 16: 18
        0
        What is the problem? Hide your infrared radiation? There are materials, enough for a couple of minutes, and nobody canceled the terrain. And they often do not fight in an open field, the high height of military equipment is rather a disadvantage than a dignity, you cannot hide such crap behind a fence.
  13. Leeppeeman
    Leeppeeman 30 October 2016 14: 04
    +3
    Why are they all so tall? The Soviet leadership put forward requirements to designers as much as possible to reduce the overall height. This affects survival at no extra cost. However, why am I worried about them at all?
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 30 October 2016 14: 47
      +3
      Well, "Boomerangs" are also not lower.
    2. padded jacket
      padded jacket 30 October 2016 15: 56
      +1
      Quote: Leeppeeman
      Why are they all so tall?

      Now in all countries some kind of gigantic mania has gone, for example, the latest armored personnel carrier from Singapore Terrex 3, the development and construction of prototypes of which was carried out by the Irish engineering company Timoney Technology.
      By the way, according to "rumors" they made a tower for him in Israel smile
    3. svp67
      svp67 30 October 2016 16: 15
      +5
      Quote: Leeppeeman
      Why are they all so tall? The Soviet leadership put forward requirements to designers as much as possible to reduce the overall height. This affects survival at no extra cost.

      The demand for reducing the height did not come from the Soviet leadership, but from the theory of shooting, according to which the greatest dispersion is just in height.

      But this was true, until the armies of the world were saturated with controlled weapons, it doesn’t matter how high the target is when the ATGM has a hit percentage of 90, not the first, you’ll hit it the second time. But such a high layout is a great salvage for the crew and the landing forces during bombings on standard mines. So, something like that.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 30 October 2016 18: 04
        +1
        Quote: svp67
        But this was true, until the armies of the world were saturated with controlled weapons, it doesn’t matter how high the target is when the ATGM has a hit percentage of 90, not the first, you’ll hit it the second time. .

        Because of ATGM? Something is doubtful because a lower car is easier to hide in the folds of the terrain than a higher one from the same ATGM, which affects with a probability of 90%. if it is of course guided by a laser or by wire, but if on the ATGM IR homing head, then probably the height of the armored personnel carrier of an infantry fighting vehicle, etc. no longer matters.
        Quote: svp67
        But such a high layout helps save the crew and the landing forces during the bombings on standard mines

        BTR Stryker blew up in Afghanistan.
        1. Bloodsucker
          Bloodsucker 30 October 2016 19: 28
          0
          Quote: quilted jacket
          BTR Stryker blew up in Afghanistan.

          And why is this a flock to this day in the car? Yu ok, yu ok, what kind of dushman from RPG would have sadaned him if it were ok ... herd ...
          1. Vz.58
            Vz.58 30 October 2016 21: 07
            +5
            This is not a herd, but a collective. Quickly sort out who is dead, who is wounded, who is shell-shocked, who is OK. Survey, distribution of assistance. And a decision is quickly made on further actions. They remained behind the armor, because it was necessary to understand the situation, but outside the armor there could be a trap. Moreover, they were not alone there. And the fire automatics worked wonderfully. Not a fire. The guys stagger after the explosion, but alive.
            I could put on this site video documents of the detonations of Soviet low, inconspicuous and invulnerable equipment such as armored personnel carriers, BMD, BMP, T- .., etc. on IEDs in Afghanistan and Chechnya, Russian equipment in other parts of the world, when those who were sitting on the armor, scattered like sparks from the "Bengal fire", and what was behind the armor could not be identified. And the DNA was evaporating. BUT! Not in this case! Stop throwing your hats! Themselves then it will hurt. Out of surprise. Mocking does not lead to good
            1. MaksoMelan
              MaksoMelan 30 October 2016 21: 47
              0
              I’ll add that all the same, our armored personnel carriers and bmp all the same appeared earlier. This is essentially a new technique. Given that battle experience. We have taken into account the Afghan experience on new machines only with the development of the line of Almaty. I think it could have appeared earlier if it had not been for the collapse of the union and for the problems that led to it.
            2. quolta
              quolta 30 October 2016 23: 34
              +1
              But about the power of a land mine, you did not think that it could be different
    4. Shadow of darkness
      Shadow of darkness 30 October 2016 16: 33
      +1
      In my opinion, it turns out high due to the location of the surveillance and guidance systems, plus armament at a height gets some advantage over low-lying ones. For the most part, with the development of technology, the location of fire weapons does not receive such an advantage, but surveillance and guidance systems remain relevant. Plus, mine protection means along with high ground clearance force them to raise the height of the armored vehicles. Do not ride the crew and the landing party in a lying position.
    5. karabas-barabas
      karabas-barabas 31 October 2016 04: 17
      0
      Due to mine protection, which holds up to 6i, maybe a little more than kg of IEDs or mines. But the "low" BTR70-82 from 200g tears like a paper one.
  14. Karaul73
    Karaul73 30 October 2016 14: 47
    +1
    Quote: Giant thought
    Again mattress covers tear our technical solutions.

    But what, an uninhabited combat module is a technical solution of Russian designers? Or does the BTR-82 have 30mm shells with remote detonation?
  15. Karaul73
    Karaul73 30 October 2016 14: 52
    +3
    Quote: 31R-US
    bullshit, not a car. Our everything is more beautiful, stronger and faster, etc.

    And our trains are the most train !!!!! Before you blame new developments learn TTX. The car should turn out to be strong, not without childhood illnesses, like all the latest samples of the military-industrial complex of the states.
    1. Yak-3P
      Yak-3P 30 October 2016 15: 04
      +2
      before speaking, study the history of the creation of a striker ... informative ..
    2. avt
      avt 30 October 2016 19: 30
      0
      Quote: Sentry73
      Before you blame new developments learn TTX. The car should turn out to be strong, not without childhood illnesses, like all the latest samples of the military-industrial complex of the states.

      From the Swiss "Piranha" development of the late 60-ies? It didn't work out straight for years and suddenly it turned out! ?? bully
      Quote: Yak-3P
      before speaking, study the history of the creation of a striker ... informative ..

      This is yes, BUT for an inquiring mind.
  16. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 30 October 2016 14: 59
    +1
    we also have dragoons, but with 100mm + 30mm and on the harp
  17. mr.redpartizan
    mr.redpartizan 30 October 2016 15: 07
    +3
    The heavy wheeled BMP "Atom" with a 57 mm gun must be quickly refined, otherwise the outdated cardboard BTR-80 will become an easy target for new Western vehicles. The KPVT machine gun or even the 2A42 autocannon are not capable of striking modern pieces of equipment of a potential enemy in the forehead from a distance of more than a couple of hundred meters, so we need a new powerful 45-57 mm gun.
    1. Shadow of darkness
      Shadow of darkness 30 October 2016 16: 39
      +1
      To defeat the Stryker, 20 mm armor-piercing shells are enough. 50 caliber is 12,7 mm written about this in the comments above:
      Quote: hirurg
      No no. It protects against 50 CALIBER, and this is 12,7 mm - somehow not very.
  18. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 30 October 2016 17: 37
    0
    It seems like nothing, but I think we will be better.
    1. Vz.58
      Vz.58 30 October 2016 21: 44
      +1
      Lying? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viC-ijgWnWY
      1. ratfly
        ratfly 30 October 2016 23: 46
        0
        Definitely. The winners form their "truth". Shitty delirium shot the abandoned tanks.
  19. Holoy
    Holoy 30 October 2016 18: 26
    0
    Power! Such troops will suit any kind of army ... it would still be taught to overcome water obstacles!
  20. MaksoMelan
    MaksoMelan 30 October 2016 21: 25
    +1
    I DO NEED TO DEVELOP A COMPOSITE CASE OR PLASTIC FOR LARGE. IT IS HIGH TIME. TO DECREASE BK WEIGHT and, if possible, increase the stock of BK