UN General Assembly Committee adopted a resolution on the start of negotiations on the prohibition of nuclear weapons

On Thursday, the First Committee of the UN General Assembly adopted by a majority vote a resolution authorizing states to begin “negotiations on a convention on the prohibition and complete elimination of nuclear weapons”. weapons"Transmits TASS.

The permanent members of the UN Russia, the United States, the United Kingdom and France voted against the document. The representative of China abstained.

In total, the project was supported by 123 countries, 38 voted against, 16 abstained.

The resolution “decides to convene a United Nations conference in 2017 to agree on a legally binding instrument banning nuclear weapons that would lead to the complete elimination of these weapons”.

“International organizations and representatives of civil society” will be allowed to participate in the conference.

According to the document, “at the end of the conference, a report will be prepared for the General Assembly, in which an assessment of the results achieved at the negotiations will be given and further actions will be formulated.”

Russia initially opposed. As stated by 14 of October, Mikhail Ulyanov, Director of the Department for Non-Proliferation and Arms Control at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation, the concept proposed by the co-authors (the project was developed by representatives of more than 50 countries) is meaningless.

“All this is reminiscent of nonsense, because non-nuclear countries will prohibit what they do not have. This is largely a political propaganda action and no one figured out what consequences it would have for the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT), ”he said.

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[cniza]

All this resembles nonsense, because non-nuclear countries will ban what they do not have. This is largely a political propaganda action and no one has calculated what consequences it will have for the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT), ”he said.

Although the United States voted against, and this is their idea - you can produce more non-nuclear weapons and let them fight, we will sit across the ocean and buy more weapons from us.

[Vend]

The idea of ​​securing the world from destruction is laudable, but it will not save the world from war. So at least they are afraid that a nuclear disaster could happen. And they will think a thousand times, even those that are exceptional from the US brain.

[Samen]

Grandmothers who sell seeds on the steps of the cinema vote to ban popcorn at the cinema. )))))))
Well, children, chesslovo ...

[Inhabitant of Mordor]

As Lavrov said earlier - DBL BLD

[hrych]

Quote: Wend

but it will not save the world from war

Theoretically, the full rubilovo will immediately begin

The permanent members of the UN Russia, the United States, the United Kingdom and France voted against the document. The representative of China abstained.

The masters of the Planet did not want to not be masters of the Planet And China modestly so abstained like with its potential, primarily in human resources and the economy, without nuclear weapons it would have managed the Planet anyway, but only one

[OLD FART]

What a chicken coop, but not the UN ... Like there are no more problems?

[DMB_95]

Quote: hrych

And China modestly so abstained like with its potential, primarily in human resources and the economy, without nuclear weapons it would have managed the Planet anyway, but only one

The US wants to rid itself of the guaranteed destruction of Russian nuclear weapons, this is clear. But in the event of (hypothetically) the elimination of nuclear weapons in the world, China will become the only superpower. So he "abstained". The initiators of the prohibition of nuclear weapons are real D. B. If they are not Chinese, of course ...

[Homo]

Quote: Wend

The idea of ​​securing the world from destruction is laudable, but it will not save the world from war.

This will not only secure the world, it will speed up the world and 1000 local wars at times. Israel will be torn apart by the Arabs, Pakistan will be occupied by India, the DPRK will immediately be annexed to South Korea, and I am not talking about us at all - the USA, Europe and China will immediately "make friends" against us and divide them up. Well, about "gentlemanly" compliance with the treaty, I will keep quiet, chemical, bacteriological weapons have already been banned, so what? Nuclear weapons - the guarantor of peace, "bad", but peace! And as you know - a "bad" peace is better than a "good" war!

[faridg7]

Given the existing alignment of non-nuclear forces, we can talk about the destruction of Russian nuclear weapons only if they are destroyed by their intended purpose for long-established goals.

[bastard]

Quote: Wend

The idea of ​​securing the world from destruction is laudable, but it will not save the world from war. So at least they are afraid that a nuclear disaster could happen. And they will think a thousand times, even those that are exceptional from the US brain.

Let them show an example, they will completely disarm themselves unilaterally.

[Orionvit]

And they think a thousand times, even those that are exceptional from the US brain

The idea of ​​nuclear parity is of course very controversial, and in the event of an open war there is always the temptation to use the full range of weapons. But the precedent was already in the Great Patriotic War. The Germans produced a huge amount of chemical weapons, just like the Soviet Union, but they never used it. I don’t know what influenced such a decision, maybe fear of retribution, maybe something else, but it's a fact. Similarly, the current world puppeteers probably well understand that in the event of the mass use of nuclear weapons by the warring parties, the world will be dirtied so that you can’t sit in New Zealand or Liberia.

[mr.redpartizan]

Chemical weapons are zilch compared to nuclear ones, so their use would simply lead to even greater casualties among the German population, but would not allow to affect the outcome of WWII.

[Vend]

Quote: Orionvit

And they think a thousand times, even those that are exceptional from the US brain

The idea of ​​nuclear parity is of course very controversial, and in the event of an open war there is always the temptation to use the full range of weapons. But the precedent was already in the Great Patriotic War. The Germans produced a huge amount of chemical weapons, just like the Soviet Union, but they never used it. I don’t know what influenced such a decision, maybe fear of retribution, maybe something else, but it's a fact. T

At the beginning of the war, Germany used chemical weapons, and the USSR used shells for the "Kaptyusha" stuffed with napalm. The effect was terrible, so the Germans hastily signed a treaty banning napalm and chemical weapons. And what is characteristic, they observed it.

[st25310]

What if the nuclear suitcases are just ordinary bombs with a button! And that "smart guy" who decided to unleash a nuclear war, presses a button in a suitcase (sincerely believing that he is sending access codes), and then "BABAH" is not there! The creators of nuclear weapons probably thought about how to save the planet and get rid of the fools ...

[Orionvit]

What if the nuclear suitcases are just ordinary bombs with a button

Not true. I saw in American cinema that suitcases work.

[Terrible_L.]

Well, even though this is from the realm of fantasy, but suppose the "non-nuclear" called a conference, suppose they even agreed on a legally binding document banning nuclear weapons. HOW DO I EXCUSE NON-NUCLEAR WEAPONS TO WITHDRAW THEIR NUCLEAR WEAPONS IF NUCLEAR WEAPONS ARE AGAINST SUCH EXPROPRIATION? I think, "Well, please, well give it back" will not work

[siberalt]

All these resolutions will boil down to the unilateral disarmament of Russia. Let first "split" Israel on the subject of whether it has nuclear weapons in nature?

[Wiskar]

Quote: siberalt

Let first "split" Israel on the subject of whether it has nuclear weapons in nature?

What for? And so everyone knows what is.

Germany makes submarines to Israel that can carry nuclear weapons.
Russia writes on its website (http://svr.gov.ru/material/2-13-6.htm) - SVR -

Israel is an informal country with nuclear weapons associated with missile delivery systems. The Israeli leadership itself does not confirm, but does not refute, the information about the presence of nuclear weapons in the country.

The United States cheated on Israel-

US authorities have declassified documents on the Israeli nuclear program, describing Israel's ability to create atomic bombs in the second half of the 1980s.

The Pentagon has published a document entitled "Technical Development of Israel and NATO Countries", although data on many countries of the North Atlantic Alliance has not been declassified, unlike information on Israel, Forward notes. Data on European states are simply shaded.

The report contains information on Israeli military developments in various fields, from anti-tank missiles to nuclear weapons. According to published reports, in 1987, Israel developed systems that would allow the creation of a hydrogen bomb. The report noted that Israeli technology reached the level of American 1955-1960, when the United States worked on this type of weapon.

At the same time, the authors of the report doubt that the Israelis are able to develop and produce a hydrogen bomb. They note that Israel's "nuclear weapons project is very conservative."

In addition, the report emphasizes that Israeli laboratories are comparable in their capabilities to American research centers in Los Alamos and others.

[Donhapa]

Quote: cniza

... the political propaganda action and no one calculated what consequences it would have for the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT), ”he said.

Twenty-five again ... Another SALT, START?
Maybe enough to buy a carrot?

[GSH-18]

UN General Assembly Committee adopted a resolution on the start of negotiations on the prohibition of nuclear weapons

Fuck! And once again ??! The result is known in advance-ZERO!

[Amurets]

Quote: GSH-18

UN General Assembly Committee adopted a resolution on the start of negotiations on the prohibition of nuclear weapons

Fuck! And once again ??! The result is known in advance-ZERO!

Another wish? There is no attempt to exclude Russia from the permanent members of the Security Council, to blame all the sins and troubles of mankind. The bell already exists. Russia did not get into the UN Human Rights Council. But such Defenders as the USA and Great Britain got. Https: //rg.ru/2016/10/28/rossiia-n
e-popala-v-sovet-oon-po-pravam-cheloveka.html
And I, with all due respect to V. Churkin, do not share his optimism that this will happen in two years.

[Observer2014]

UN General Assembly Committee adopted a resolution on the start of negotiations on the prohibition of nuclear weapons

Naive. Now let's quit and give up. Let them take and refuse. They have the same super missile defense.

[gg.na]

We’ll just pick up acceleration iron the laces and immediately run to abandon nuclear weapons Let’s buy a button, stamp it on your forehead and fasten their ruin which they rolled !!!

[Aroma77]

All this fuss was started not with the goal of abandoning nuclear weapons, but with the goal of minimizing it, in order to level the number of Poison missiles with the number of the latest US missile defense missiles.

[Vadim237]

And what will they do - how will they force Russia and the DPRK, the last one the UN wanted to put on it, they abandoned their nuclear weapons.

[Orionvit]

the last one the UN wanted to put on it

Recently, everyone has wanted to lay on the UN, starting with Western democracies and ending with all sorts of small aggressive mongrels. Russia is still trying to "play" the truth in the stands of the UN, but it is openly ignored. When the League of Nations turned into a laughing stock, the Second World War began (though this is not a cause, not even a consequence, but some indicative fact), now the same is with the UN. However, analogies are dangerous.

[Wiruz]

I wonder if these "humanists" really believe in the complete renunciation of nuclear weapons?
Or are they, understanding the futility of their intentions, stupidly PR?

[albert]

Quote: Wiruz

stupidly PR?

Exactly.

[Lelek]

Quote: Wiruz

Or are they, understanding the futility of their intentions, stupidly PR?

That's right - "or". Ge Moon is leaving, the reputation acquired during the "General Secretary" is below the plinth, and the last chord of hotzza is played louder so that they remember that they were "like that", they say. Hence the attempts.
We should not bother with this proposal, the presence of nuclear weapons is the only argument that restrains the war, it will disappear and the universal mess and massacre will begin.

[Polite Moose]

What was it? An attempt to demobilize the second Nobel Peace Prize for the fight against nuclear weapons to snatch off?

[raid14]

The list of countries needed to be announced.
Whose hoops are these? Who are afraid of the "nuclear cudgel" to trembling knees, and from whose submission is this resolution?

[Wiruz]

Representative of China abstained

I don’t know about you, but for me personally, as an amateur to watch various meetings at the UN, China’s position annoys more than Samantha Power! At least she has a firm position. Clueless, but firm. China, however many meetings of the Security Council I have not watched, always refrains from everything - "neither fish nor meat." And not a friend of Russia, and not an enemy.
Maybe just because of the difficulties of translation, China cannot understand how to vote?

[Amurets]

Quote: Wiruz

China, however many meetings of the Security Council I have not watched, always refrains from everything - "neither fish nor meat." And not a friend of Russia, and not an enemy.

So the PRC as a jellyfish, neither an animal, nor a plant, something soft, slippery and indefinite, but in some cases, it can also burn.

[dumpy15]

Everything is simpler. China has traditionally strictly followed the principles of strategy outlined in The Art of War by Sun Tzu

[Orionvit]

China always has its own firm stance and opinion, which they keep to themselves. Namely, that the Celestial Empire is the greatest empire, and everyone else is the essence of the lost Chinese provinces. Let the rest break their spears, and we'll wait. All this eastern Chinese cunning tricks, everyone has long figured out, let them not think that they are smarter than everyone. True, they probably don’t think so, but they do so.

[Donhapa]

Quote: Wiruz

Representative of China abstained

I don’t know about you, but for me personally, as an amateur to watch various meetings at the UN, China’s position annoys more than Samantha Power! At least she has a firm position. Clueless, but firm. China, however many meetings of the Security Council I have not watched, always refrains from everything - "neither fish nor meat." And not a friend of Russia, and not an enemy.
Maybe just because of the difficulties of translation, China cannot understand how to vote?

What is incomprehensible here? China itself, it does not care about Americans and does not fawn in front of us. In general, with China you need to be very careful - bite off your hand and do not frown

[krops777]

The resolution “decides to convene a United Nations conference in 2017 to agree on a legally binding instrument banning nuclear weapons that would lead to the complete elimination of these weapons”.

What the UN has been doing for a long time, to muddle non-American countries and adopt moronic resolutions, a useless organization.

[Donhapa]

Quote: krops777

The resolution “decides to convene a United Nations conference in 2017 to agree on a legally binding instrument banning nuclear weapons that would lead to the complete elimination of these weapons”.

What the UN has been doing for a long time, to muddle non-American countries and adopt moronic resolutions, a useless organization.

Since 90% occupied by the Zionists is not even useless, but hostile to us

[Ruslan67]

Quote: Donhapa

Since 90% occupied by the Zionists

You probably as a child a Jewish boy with a screech banged on her stupid?

[Amurets]

“All this is reminiscent of nonsense, because non-nuclear countries will prohibit what they do not have. This is largely a political propaganda action and no one figured out what consequences it would have for the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT), ”he said.

And to prohibit non-nuclear powers from using electricity, computers and other benefits of civilization, and to wear synthetic fur coats and bask by the fire. Nuclear power plants and hydroelectric power plants are luxury for them. Why? For the first time delirium about the prohibition of nuclear weapons was proclaimed by "Rainbows", during the years of the Cold War.

[olimpiada15]

The presence of nuclear weapons is a factor in deterring the United States from war with the Russian Federation.

[AlexTires]

The rest of the world does not want to be held hostage by the Russian-American showdown ... But where will he go?

[Lumumba]

This is one of the steps towards the third world war. Push through nuclear disarmament by any means. The main "disarming agent" in this case, of course, neatly, quietly and calmly "disarms to the warehouse." Until the hour X so to speak.

[Wiruz]

Even if we assume that the United States will abandon nuclear weapons, moreover, even if we assume that they really destroy all nuclear weapons, the balance of power will not be equal. The United States has an order of magnitude more strategic non-nuclear weapons, like the Tomahawks, as well as their carriers.

[Orionvit]

My father, the Soviet Officer, told me back in the 80s that so many things were invented in the world to destroy people, that by and large nuclear weapons were no longer needed. But since it is, we have to reckon with this.

[Wiruz]

Yes, nuclear weapons are, in fact, the most honest. The most nefarious, when compared with climatic, biological, tectonic, etc. Just like execution, the most humane execution

[Orionvit]

Of course it’s not vile, if you didn’t die right away, then you will die long and painfully from radiation sickness and watch your loved ones die. Jokes around weapons, especially mass destruction in my opinion, are somewhat inappropriate. The question is generally different. Nuclear weapons have been made a bargain, silent that the powers that be, there are a lot of ways, in the event of a global conflict, to fairly normalize humanity. And in the West they do not even hide that despite the ban on chemical and bacteriological weapons, they did not stop its development. Well, tectonic, and everything else that can kill people in huge numbers.

[Orionvit]

Si vis pacem, para bellum. Want peace, get ready for war

[Wedmak]

You might think that if this conference is convened in 2017, everyone will just abandon their nuclear weapons. Rave. It’s even funnier that countries that do not have this weapon and are not expected to vote. That is, in fact, they do not know anything about this weapon, except that it is very destructive.
But there is a proposal: the USA and Great Britain are the first, voluntarily, to abandon nuclear weapons. And then, making sure that it was destroyed, and not buried in a secluded place, everyone else.

[Vadim237]

A hypersonic one will come instead of a nuclear one, and then isomeric charges will appear - a holy place does not exist; at the moment, the UN is the most useless organization - there’s no sense in it.

[UnclePasha]

Enough, they were already destroyed unilaterally .. A hole to them from the bagel

[Donhapa]

Quote: UnclePasha

Enough, they were already destroyed unilaterally .. A hole to them from the bagel

Waffle them with dust)) ...

[Kondratko]

The ban on nuclear weapons, are also going to destroy? But how will they control it? Has anyone left a stash? I am sure that this is not real and very dangerous. Another point, if we allow us to take away the kernel-loaf from us, then the strip-matted ones, without any fear for themselves, will poison all of their mongrel against us, and the bear, although it is large, will be hard for him to cope with alone.

[behemot]

dada, let's ban Russia, and the rest will increase

[Igor Polovodov]

To start a dialogue and as goodwill, let the United States refuse, as the country is essentially the only nuclear weapon in history.

[Damir]

With the inequality in arsenals that there is a place to be without nuclear weapons, we will be crushed ... now the picture on TV - "Aggressive Russia is aggressively refusing to ban aggressive nuclear weapons" and howl, howl of the liberoid press all over the world !!!!

[Orionvit]

Yeah, they refused to sign 38, that is, even those who saw nuclear weapons only in the movies (probably Estonia, Latvia, Ukraine, and all sorts of Georgia, among them). And dirt is poured unilaterally all only on Russia. How all this is democratically, western, European.

[mr.redpartizan]

Let howl in the west as much as you like. I would have completely fenced off them with an iron curtain of tanks and missiles, simultaneously breaking any ties with the EU and the USA.

[Mama_Cholli]

It seems to be a good idea, but ...
.. as soon as it passes and the nuclear weapons are destroyed, then we will immediately end. The United States and NATO have too much advantage over us, even in their ability to put bayonets under the flag. Approximately 10: 1.

[Berezkin]

The US strategic plan: ban nuclear weapons, wreak havoc everywhere, separate the isthmus connecting the south with the north and create an island of prosperity. And make the whole world work for yourself !!!! Everything will go astray and drown on approach. If you want peace, pay and then maybe they will shelter you in their territory. But globally, they are interested in the whole of America, both south and north. In the north will be ELITE, and the southern territories (Brazil, etc.) will be used as a transshipment base or purgatory.
Nuclear weapons are a guarantee against the lawlessness that they arrange.

[Orionvit]

Absolutely agree. It is not nuclear weapons that should be banned, but weapons that, by their destructive power against states, are almost nearby. Namely the dollar. It is necessary to propose a ban on the dollar, and most wars and crises will stop by themselves. True, the last who proposed this was Colonel Gaddafi, and before him there was Kennedy.

[nikolai55soot]

Russia: under Obama's ass ... secretly put an atomic mine in case of the 3rd world one? then the order "we will not die alive".

[BOB044]

The question is of course interesting. But why do we need Russia. We will disarm and they will coalition and rob and share our wealth. We agreed on plutonium, and here deception. So let everyone go through the woods. We are not going to attack and it’s calmer with him.

[mr.redpartizan]

It is necessary not only not to reduce, but also to increase the nuclear arsenal. It is also necessary to continue research in the field of matter, which in the future will allow us to obtain weapons, in comparison with which the hydrogen bomb is a Chinese clapperboard. Only the ability to wipe entire continents off the face of the earth will allow Russia to survive in the future.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Vadim237

Hypersonic will come instead of nuclear

Well, nuclear, it’s somehow more or less clear, but what is a hypersonic weapon? Please explain, I personally hear for the first time that there are hypersonic bombs, I heard about nuclear bombs.

[FREGATEN]

Well, it's not exactly .. not bombs .., but missiles or warheads ... That's just the news today ...- The Russian military experienced a hypersonic warhead
How it all began
Hypersonic missile mahanula in Kamchatka
Hypersonic aircraft (GZLA) 4202 is designed to be installed instead of traditional warheads on promising intercontinental ballistic missiles.
News
01:01
The Russian military has successfully tested a hypersonic aircraft (GZLA), also known as “4202 product,” the newspaper Izvestia reports. A weapon capable of speeds of about 7 km / s was tested during firing in the launch area of ​​Dombarovsky in the Orenburg region

[Orionvit]

So this is not a weapon as such, just a delivery vehicle.

[bk316]

it’s not a weapon as such, just a delivery vehicle.

We take a pig-iron pig weighing 10 kg, accelerate to 10000 km / s and balls on the pentagon. The result is an explosion of 100 ct (if I did not mess up with the degrees) and you say delivery vehicles.

[Orionvit]

10 kg, accelerate to 10000 km / s and balls on the pentagon

Overclock if it's that simple. At one time they suggested (and in my opinion they even tested) that it was stupid to drop tungsten pins from a satellite, 100 kilograms each. At orbital speeds, without any filling, the effect was good. But expensive.

(if I didn’t mess anything with the degrees)

I did not count the degrees, but they messed up with speeds for sure.

[Vadim237]

"What is a hypersonic weapon" - Aeroballistic missiles and gliding bombs, as well as ICBM warheads with speeds exceeding Mach 6, for example, if a rocket made of tungsten weighing 4000 kilograms is accelerated to a speed of 4 kilometers per second, its kinetic energy upon impact with the ground will be equal to 32 billion Joules which is equivalent to an explosion of 8 tons of TNT. Unlike nuclear weapons, the arsenal of these weapons can be arbitrarily large - there are no restrictions on them.

[FREGATEN]

This organization has long ceased, what does it mean in the global scenario ..... Well, well ... she accepted ... And what next? Singapore and Tanzania will negotiate on nuclear weapons ...? No words ... One clowning ...

[Polite Moose]

No, I don’t understand, why are we breaking our hearts here? If people want to disarm, then let them disarm themselves. And to us from this gesheft sho? There is no benefit. Only sweat. Do we need it?

[Pirate]

Classical nuclear will be replaced by thermonuclear or neutron. And if the ban touches them as well, chemical and biological developments will go with possible leaks to the masses.
War is not needed by any country, mankind needs war so that there is no overpopulation. Otherwise, everyone will die out.

[Grim Reaper]

Maybe just powers with a billion people less to fuck ?? )))))

[Iskander Sh]

China, as always, abstained just in case.

[Aleksey_K]

I wonder how Israel voted. Something our Israeli readers are silent. If only they wrote something about the position of Israel on this issue.

[Wiskar]

Quote: Алексей_К

I wonder how Israel voted.

Of course against -

The United States, Israel, France, Russia and Britain were among the nations voting against the measure. China, India and Pakistan absent.

Quote: Алексей_К

. Something our Israeli readers are silent. If only they wrote something about the position of Israel on this issue.

(c) Firstly, we do not have nuclear weapons, and secondly, if necessary, we will use it

[Altona]

Microbes are trying to ban elephants. There is nothing more to add.

[dima-fesko]

All this resembles nonsense, because non-nuclear countries will ban what they do not have.

It presented itself to me like this: Son to father - "Old man, take off your pants, I will flog!"

[weksha50]

"The permanent members of the UN Russia, the USA, Great Britain and France voted against the document. Representative of China abstained"...

Hmm ... First, after reading, I was surprised ... And then it dawned: after all, the only country that can benefit from the elimination of nuclear weapons is China, which without nuclear weapons will crush almost any enemy ... With its economic, military and human resources ...

And so ... None of the states possessing nuclear weapons will take this step ... Including officially, as if having - nuclear weapons without Israel, India, Pakistan, North Korea (illegitimate members of the nuclear club) ... South Africa - a huge question ...

Speaking of Russia, it was the presence of nuclear weapons that did not allow the West to deal with it in the 90s, and even more so now ...

[Mentat]

Quote: hrych

And China modestly so abstained like with its potential, primarily in human resources and the economy, without nuclear weapons it would have managed the Planet anyway, but only one

Fantasy on the march. What planet would China deal with with Sirius’s moons? In China, it is full of internal problems, and it is precisely to them that they have to solve not only for moving forward, but for survival.

The whole economic power of China is the desire of international corporations to earn extra profits due to cheap labor and the absence of expenses for nature management (predatory treatment of water resources, almost complete absence of treatment facilities).

In technological terms, China has been and remains a lagging country, it does not use its technologies (they simply do not exist), only imported ones.

All that China really has now is accumulated foreign exchange reserves and gold, as well as data on technological processes that were transferred to it for the production of specific products, a combination of which is possible, someday, with a certain probability other than zero, will lead it to leading role. Therefore, now he sits and is silent in a rag in most cases.

[bk316]

Looks like you were not in China and also far from the military-industrial complex
1. In China, the largest prom. production in the world, but not in the EU and not in the USA.
2. The most advanced technologies are not used in armaments, they are all in laboratories, in factories always yesterday, in arsenal usually the day before yesterday. Therefore, from a military point of view, with a numerical superiority of 5 times, you can be at least 15 years behind technologies, and so what such in the American army that was discovered less than 15 years ago?
3. The best way to solve internal problems is a victorious war, and even if you defeat the world hegemon ....

So for example, China simply will not notice the blow with all the tomahawks, and even if it starts the war after the war between us and the mattresses ends, then neither we nor the USA will have nothing to oppose the Chinese.

So to whom, to whom, and to China, the ban on nuclear weapons is so beneficial.

[mr.redpartizan]

The Chinese population and industry is concentrated in large cities, which are more than forty. Hitting them with megaton-class charges will lead to the deaths of tens of millions of people and the loss of industrial superpower status. China does not need a war in any case, because it successfully crushes any competitors with its economy. War is the last chance to remain a leader for a dying superpower.

[1536]

And why can’t you forbid weapons in general, both nuclear and non-nuclear ?! From tanks, for example, remove the cannon and machine guns, and sell to the public. We will ride them to work. Etc.

[MarioG]

The UN is currently sitting on pants that are completely torn off from reality by clowns who are ready to vote for anything

[Olegovi4]

what is the UN without those who voted against and the modest Chyna?)))) and what are "representatives of civil society"? Are they stateless citizens or are they from the UN member states?

[razved]

Another talking room. Even if a convention is adopted, the countries possessing nuclear weapons and some others (which officially do not have it) will sign it.

[CooL_SnipeR]

Homeless people in the trash gathered and proclaimed ... let's forbid the rich to have money!

[Mentat]

Quote: bk316

Looks like you were not in China and also far from the military-industrial complex

Judging by your comment, you are far from not only the military-industrial complex, but also the breadth of outlook in general.

1. In China, the largest prom. production in the world, but not in the EU and not in the USA.

And why is there a large production? China built it for itself as a result of the industrialization program, like the USSR, on its own initiative?

Your further muttering about technology is simply not commented.

So, for example, China simply won’t notice the blow of all the tomahawks

Dear VO reader, go and read what the Three Gorges, Gaezhoub and Jinping hydroelectric power stations are. Then read about what will happen if their dams are destroyed, and do not write such nonsense anymore.

[Amurets]

Quote: Mentat

Dear VO reader, go and read what the Three Gorges, Gaezhoub and Jinping hydroelectric power stations are. Then read about what will happen if their dams are destroyed, and do not write such nonsense anymore.

If we add the Zeya and Bureyskaya HPPs to this, the result is obvious. Many people remember the 2013 flood in the Far East, but for some reason this flood did not show China, and there the damage was much stronger than in Russia. Why am I taking these hydropower plants, because both Zeya and Bureya flow into the Amur and create such water backwater for Chinese rivers that, given the destruction of Chinese hydropower plants, the PRC will simply flood.

[Mosen6Ish]

Interestingly, representatives of China do not vote "abstained" in principle?
Or is it by the principle - a cunning macaque sits and waits?

[pest]

Is it that the exceptional ones in this way want to become exceptional, like, it doesn’t concern them, are they so exceptional, and the rest are fools?

[Tired]

No wonder China abstained. With its mobilization potential. On the other hand, with a ban on nuclear weapons (if such a thing happens), cooperation between Russia and NATO will suddenly become inevitable and necessary, just so that the multi-billion dollar South does not trample the sparsely populated North.

[andron-30]

Lithuania Estonia and other world Powers speak only, BUT WHO AND WHAT is Lithuania Latvia and the hedgehog with them, the mongrel of the USA is nothing more, so the dog barks the wind wears

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Vadim237

"What are hypersonic weapons" - Aeroballistic missiles and gliding bombs, as well as ICBM warheads with speeds exceeding Mach 6

Everything is mixed up with you, you confuse the physics of explosions and the physics of just mechanical impacts, albeit with great speed.
Firstly, modern ballistic charges enter the atmosphere at a speed of more than 6 max, but for some reason they are carrying not nuclear tungsten blanks.
Second: At the Kura test site, funnels constantly remain from testing modern ballistic blanks (instead of nuclear charges). If your calculations were accurate, then the military would have noticed this effect long ago, but observers at the Kura training ground did not see anything like this.
Well, the third. Hypersonic carriers are designed for the sole purpose of breaking through missile defense, as while there is no means to destroy these carriers, and not the delivery of any tungsten or with depleted uranium discs.
Fourth, you have read about railguns and are fantasizing. The railgun must accelerate the projectile to speeds of about 10 swings, and only then does it become an effective weapon. You've probably read that the Americans wanted to install a railgun on their destroyer Zamvolt, but so far this destroyer does not have such weapons. And we don't have such weapons.
Fifth, a significant explosive effect from the fall of meteorites weighing several tons is achieved by the fact that they enter the Earth’s atmosphere with a speed of about 40 swings. Smaller meteorites simply burn in the atmosphere.

[Vadim237]

Everything is mixed up with you, you confuse the physics of explosions and the physics of just mechanical impacts, albeit with great speed. Come on - energy - Joules remain unchanged even when an explosive explodes, even when a heavy body collides at high speed, like the asteroids, the kinetic energy of which is comparable to the explosion of several powerful atomic bombs.
At the Kura test site, craters constantly remain from testing modern ballistic blanks (instead of nuclear charges). "If your calculations were accurate, the military would have noticed this effect long ago, but observers at the Kura training ground have not seen anything like it." - As you have seen, the warhead is 500 kilograms, and the funnel is like from an explosion of 1,5 tons of TNT - so the calculations are correct.

[Old26]

Quote: Aroma77

All this fuss was started not with the goal of abandoning nuclear weapons, but with the goal of minimizing it, in order to level the number of Poison missiles with the number of the latest US missile defense missiles.

Do not make up. It is the delirium of the idea - a complete ban and destruction of nuclear weapons. And minimization is a bilateral or multilateral business of nuclear powers, and not of all the others.

Quote: Mama_Cholli

.. as soon as it passes and the nuclear weapons are destroyed, then we will immediately end.

May it not be destroyed. Notice who против (abstaining is also in principle against, since he did not vote "for") - ALL nuclear powers, and OLDofficially recognized as nuclear, and all permanent members of the Security Council with veto power

[Darth Revan]

Nuclear weapons must not be prohibited! How to fight back then from aliens? And so - they arranged Exterminatus and poisoned the planet. And the sleepwalkers will fly further. What for them a radioactive slag piece?

[Vadim237]

We will use hypersonic weapons to fight off the "aliens" too.

[Mentat]

I want to add that you should not understand my words in the messages above wrongly. Chinese people are a great people with their distinctive culture, traditions and rich history; hardworking that we can all see. At the same time, China faces a galaxy of tasks that need to be addressed at a good pace. This applies to environmental issues, and the development of the domestic market, the development of science, issues of social security and health.

However, I want to emphasize that it is unreasonable to invent a hypothetical China, with one left laying on the shoulder of the planet, capturing the sole absolute leadership.

Are there any plans inside China itself? Maybe some of the elites have it, but in the world there is a system of mutual balance, which did not and does not make it possible for countries that are much more powerful, which is only good for China itself. All flowers should bloom.