And again about ukrofashizme

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October 27 evening was the last for two residents of Makeyevka. Residents of this city, as well as Donetsk, Yasinovataya and Gorlovka, were by no means the kindest words about the Minsk agreements: “Negotiations are being held there, but you can hear - here, with us.” Then came the tragic news: two people died, seven were injured. Among the dead - the chief doctor of a hospital. Among the wounded are two children. Seven houses were damaged ... In addition, one of the residents of the Petrovsky district of Donetsk was killed in the shelling ...



This day has already been called in the DPR "Bloody Thursday." It is symbolic that he fell on the eve of the Day of the liberation of Ukraine from fascist invaders. 72 a year ago, the Red Army expelled the Nazis from the Ukrainian territory. And now - from there, from the Ukrainian side, shells are flying. And behind the front line - all the darkness.

I am often told: “We don’t want to read anything about Ukraine”, “Why discuss this madhouse”, etc. However, if you talk like that, you can go far. Why, for example, read and discuss the actions of the United States? There "madhouse" is even worse.

And why during the years of the Great Patriotic War, Soviet journalists not only wrote reports from the fronts, but also exposed the essence of Hitlerism? One could also say: they say, why do we need news from this insane asylum?

A need. Because from Ukraine to Russia is constantly pouring flows of Russophobia, which can not be left unanswered. Because there are people who are speaking, singing and writing in Russian. Because our common is distorted story. Because, in the end, not only angry fake accusations fly from there, but also deadly projectiles.

Every crime Kiev Maidan junta should be documented. Every absurd decision ukrovlasti - ridiculed. Every fact of persecution of journalists, creative people, political activists - must be condemned. True, in practice this cannot be done even by the efforts of all patriotic journalists combined. But at least part of the hostile actions - should be repelled.

Poroshenko open up: it turns out, in his words, there is no ATO. There is a “Russian aggression”. He said this on October 27, speaking at the Ostroh Academy in the Rivne region. And on the same evening shells flew through the cities of Donbass. And local residents died, not “Russian aggressors.”

But still, and Turchinov, who was acting. President of Ukraine before Poroshenko’s election, and the "bloody chocolate baron" himself justified all these killings - including infanticide - by the antiterrorist operation (ATO).

It turns out that there is no ATO. There is only aggression. Right. Residents of the DPR and the LPR from the very beginning have argued that what is happening is not at all the mythical “fight against terrorists”, but the real aggression on the part of Ukrohunts. It should be noted that two Makeyevites killed in the cold October evening, and many, many other civilians were killed not by Russia, but by Ukrainian bombs and mines.

Mr. Poroshenko in the same speech stated that he ... is proud. The reason for his pride is the so-called “decommunization”. (Shortly before this speech, it was reported: the last monument to Lenin was demolished in Ukraine). “I am happy and proud that during these two years we have made decommunization. There are no Lenins anymore, no Communist Party. We calmly united the UPA soldiers and the veterans of the Red Army, ”he said.

This is a strange reason for pride, given the barbaric methods of this “de-communization”, when monuments to the Heroes of the Great Patriotic War came under demolition, when localities named after anti-fascists were forcibly renamed. There are often cases when people who defended monuments were beaten or even killed.

And here is one of the latest news. In the area of ​​Kiev, Podol dismantled the sculpture "Cobblestone - weapon proletariat "- a copy of the sculptor Ivan Shadr. It was dedicated to the revolutionary events of 1905-1907.

But still Poroshenko is not telling the truth: The Communist Party, although greatly weakened, is there. And it is impossible to unite the veterans of the Great Patriotic War with the "UPA soldiers" - in fact, not at all by the soldiers, but by collaborationists, Bandera shortages, who shot true warriors in the back.

And one more thing to note. The leader of the Kiev junta says that there are no more monuments to Lenin in Ukraine. Thus, he unwittingly confirms what he explicitly admits - he is afraid: Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, as well as the Crimea, where Lenin’s monuments stand, are not Ukraine.

I repeat: we, Russians, cannot and should not be indifferently mocking ukrofashistov over our common history. And this mockery concerns not only Ilyich and the Soviet heritage. There are voices that need to remove the monument to Bogdan Khmelnitsky, as well as demolish the arch of Friendship of Peoples. And instead of them - to put the monuments to the “heroes” - those who kill Donetsk residents, makeevchans, residents of Gorlovka ... And one more little idea that has been actively discussed recently is to erect a monument to Simon Petliura in Kiev. I don't care that this ataman was involved in mass Jewish pogroms, the main thing was to fight against Soviet Russia, and therefore - “hero”.

The modern Maidan of Ukraine has not only “heroes”, but also a “heroine” - the most famous participant of the punitive battalion “Aydar”. However, the image of this “heroine” is already pretty spoiled, but she retains her reward. The one whose tip-off was killed by Russian journalists Igor Korneluk and Anton Voloshin. And pulled the pardoned pilot woman not just anywhere, but to Russia.

What would happen to any fighter of the DPR or the LPR, would he take a quiet stroll along Khreshchatyk and show up in the hall where someone accused of “separatism” is tried? The answer is obvious - would have been brutally beaten, would have fallen into a prison cell.

However, to be persecuted, it is not necessary to be a fighter. As we see, it is enough to be a journalist, artist, or even a relative of a civil servant of the DPR or LPR. So, the other day the SBU punishers seized the mother and stepfather of Lieutenant Colonel Sidorenko, an employee of the People’s Militia of the Lugansk People’s Republic. The old men had the imprudence to go behind the front line to get a pension. The next day, the lieutenant colonel received a call and stated that he should hand over information to the Ukrainian side that would be required of him. Unless, of course, wants to see their loved ones alive. The Luhansk resident refused, and his relatives remain hostages.

While Ukraine resorts to similar methods, Russia has shown simply the wonders of tolerance. Nadezhda Savchenko, who came to the right-wing Ukrainian right-wing radicals, didn’t touch a finger. Shouted that "Glory to Ukraine" in the courtroom. She turned her face, full of contempt, to journalists. Walked around Red Square. "Martyr" did not. However, she could not help her like-minded people, Karpyuku and Klykhu. I did not appreciate the Russian court demarche pardoned murderer.

When she arrived home, Nadezhda said: “I’ve come back alive again from hell.” And with what Russian hospitality didn’t please her? Fed bad? Or paid too little attention? In fact, they did a truly terrifying thing with this character - they did not torture the masochist.

And about the “return from hell” says the same person who personally, with his own hands, created hell for the residents of Donbass.

If it was an exam, arranged by Russia - she passed it. Savchenko went home under its own power, not in handcuffs and not under escort. But the Kiev junta exam on democracy can not pass. Yes, I was reminded in the previous article that even the singer Natasha Koroleva (who, by the way, supported the Maidan) did not avoid trouble, it is unclear why. For five years she was banned from entering her native "nenku".

And further. In the previous article, I talked about a blatant incident, when the Ukrainian authorities threatened Belavia with fighters, demanding the return to Zhulyany. This happened due to the fact that the journalist Armen Martirosyan, a critic of the Maidan, was on board. Allegedly, he could have a flash drive, which contained some dangerous information (to which the journalist himself rightly noted that in our time the information can be transferred without any flash drives).

So - someone did not believe that there really were threats to bring down a civilian plane. Now the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Belarus has confirmed that it has the transcript of the negotiations of the aircraft crew with the Belarusian dispatcher. And there really sounded threats to use combat Aviation.

The Belarusian crew decided not to check where the current Ukraine’s bottom is and whether the authorities are capable of actually killing passengers of a civilian plane. Therefore, the requirement has been met. Perhaps this happened, among other things, because there were many publications in the press denouncing the absurdity of the neo-fascist junta rule.

Despite the fact that this junta is supported by the West - sober-minded people still understand: it is really far from any concept of civilization. It is better to save human lives. And if everyone will be silent about the crimes of the junta, then one can really think that post-Maid Ukraine is a civilized, democratic, European state, certainly not capable of killing innocent people.

And she is killing. Ukrofashizm - not a myth. And in the evening of October 28 - right on the anniversary of the liberation of Ukraine from fascism - the residents of Donbass again report: “We are very noisy. They shoot, ”“ Trudovskis accept ”,“ Gorlovka - it's better not to stand on the balconies ”... And at this very moment, the doctors are fighting for the life of a six-year Makeyevka woman who suffered on the eve, October 27.
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  1. +5
    31 October 2016 13: 36
    Do not forget that we are in the same information space, and ukrobandera is in the looking glass.
    According to ukrosmi, these are "separatists" who fired at Donetsk and are guilty of all sins. So the statements of the rulers of the junta about the aggression of Russia and the separatist thugs are very much consistent with the events, as they are presented by ukrosmi. Only the fault is redirected there.
    1. +10
      31 October 2016 13: 42
      Among the dead - the head physician of one of the hospitals. Among the wounded are two children. Seven Domo Damaged

      One word, nonhumans, and what mother of these nonhumans gave birth.
      As the "Russian Spring" acting the head of the administration of Gorlovka, Ivan Prikhodko, a 6-year-old girl who was wounded as a result of shelling by Makeevka’s Ukrainian troops, is alive.
      According to him, she was operated on by doctors in a hospital in Donetsk and is currently recovering from anesthesia.
      1. 0
        1 November 2016 06: 14
        Perhaps the sculpture of Shadra is of cultural and historical value. But the revolution of 1905-1907, like the Maidan, is nothing more than a terrorist attack on the state. And the source of funding for these two events is the same. So is it worth crying over broken monuments. Normal goal update.
    2. +8
      31 October 2016 16: 05
      Quote: Sharapov
      According to ukrosmi reports, these are "separatists" who fired at Donetsk and are guilty of all sins.

      Yes, we are "curse separy". And we gave a "response" for Makeyevka on the positions of dill near Avdeevka. And if not for "Minsk" ...

      And all the confusion (Avdeevka-Donetsk) in their already stupid boshki, because of a crossfire and shell-shock ...
      1. +3
        31 October 2016 17: 27
        And when I went to the "friendly UKROSMI" (God forbid, of course, such friends), I learned that the "DPR illegal armed groups" suffered a "crushing defeat in the" Promka ", deployed their guns and fired on Makeyevka.
    3. 0
      4 November 2016 12: 35
      We are not only in one information space, but have been, are and will be in one country. The question of "who will win" is being resolved. The process dragged on.
  2. +20
    31 October 2016 13: 36
    We calmly united the UPA warriors and veterans of the Red Army, ”he said.
    Petushara. You offal of the Hamburger, my grandfather, crushed these mumbled cocks of banderlogs, don’t dare to touch a chocolate child killer to touch the memory of our grandfathers. am Thank you Elena for the article, everything is correct, to be silent about the crimes of these ghouls from the junta means to betray the memory of our grandfathers who defeated Nazism.
    1. +3
      31 October 2016 13: 57
      I don’t even know how to answer you ...
      Perhaps I’ll ask you to pay attention to a certain similarity in the behavior of the arrogant Saxons and the current elite of Ukraine. Notice both these and these - they simply dismiss the inconvenient facts, as if they did not exist! But in the end - to whom are we (crimes) going to say?
      I believe that everything must be handed over to the RF IC, and when (God forbid) "democracy and glasnost" will take place in Ukraine - so that they would then remember the names of those who did all this.
      As an option, launch RT correspondents - but Ukraine, such Ukraine ...
      1. +10
        31 October 2016 14: 11
        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        Perhaps I’ll ask you to pay attention to a certain similarity in the behavior of the arrogant Saxons and the current elite of Ukraine. Notice both these and these - they simply dismiss the inconvenient facts, as if they did not exist! But in the end - to whom are we (crimes) going to say?

        A colleague, so arrogant Saxons, manage these puppets from the junta, junta and cannot fart without an order from across the ocean, but remain silent about their crimes. request It will be even worse. Pay attention that now in Russia, the same constant shelling of residential areas and the death of civilians are simply hushed up. hi
        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        I believe that everything must be handed over to the RF IC, and when (God forbid) "democracy and glasnost" will take place in Ukraine - so that they would then remember the names of those who did all this.

        So in the UK, many criminal cases have been opened against many junta leaders and the White Book is going about crimes in Donbass, but you said correctly
        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
        and when (God forbid) Ukraine will host "democracy and glasnost"

        May God live to see this. Well, RT correspondents will not be allowed to enter Ukraine. Sincerely, colleague. hi
  3. +2
    31 October 2016 13: 53
    What can I say ... you call the Kakhlov “by their proper names,” so they banyat you and expose a blot with numbers ... it’s better to remain silent, high liberoids are showing off.
    1. +6
      31 October 2016 16: 44
      Well, after all, pluralism of opinions however. Her mother is in the rocker.
      And in principle, the individuals in the Russian Federation who support an openly fascist system on the outskirts are surprising. And what is most interesting among them are many "chosen ones" of God (forgive me Father for blasphemy).
      I think it’s not necessary to give examples. The people have a short memory, oh short .......
      1. 0
        31 October 2016 20: 29
        Quote: Smog
        But in principle, individuals in the Russian Federation are surprised who support an openly fascist system on the outskirts.

        I know this .. he has a partner, the best choice of the Ukrainian people. smile
        And he already ceased to amaze me. Long ago.
  4. 0
    31 October 2016 13: 54
    Elena, I understand you very well, but my emotions go wild. Very much.
    So which way do you propose?
    1. +4
      31 October 2016 14: 41
      The solution is simple - remove the junta.
      1. 0
        31 October 2016 14: 45
        AS? That is the question. In Ukraine itself, no one will co-organize. We have no right to intervene. From a legal point of view. I do not say that the Americans had a right, but ... We do not. So the question is: HOW to remove the junta?
        1. +1
          31 October 2016 14: 59
          We have a lot of employees of special services, diplomats, political strategists and other special people who receive a considerable salary. So they would analyze the American experience of overthrowing the unwanted. I'm not even talking about intervention - for the United States it is a last resort, if the "rezhim" is not overthrown at all. In many cases, they do without it.
          1. 0
            31 October 2016 15: 10
            Well, I envy your optimism.
          2. +8
            31 October 2016 15: 46
            Quote: elenagromova
            We have a lot of special services, diplomats, political strategists and other special people who receive a considerable salary.

            Do you know Elena ...
            It is worth pondering what "minuses" the level of influence of the Russian Federation on Ukraine was driven by only the "ambassador of the Russian Federation in Ukraine" Zurabov, and the question immediately arises:
            Is salary one thing?

            Maybe desire is also necessary?

            PS: In "dogon".

            Russia's tough, combined military-political-economic blow to the junta would not have left any memories of it long ago. But this is "anyhow" ... Unfortunately.
            1. 0
              31 October 2016 16: 05
              I am calling against the military. Do not misunderstand me. What is happening in the DLNR in Ukraine is fascism, which seeks to wipe out those who dare to raise their voices against.
              At the same time, I ask you to consider that there people are really stupefied, zombied. And if you strike a military strike - we will fight with all the people who live there. You can not do it this way.
              Political and economic blows? I agree, but the conclusions that will be made are likely to be: Russia is again to blame, and now feed us ...
              It is necessary to work there as the United States began. If they calculated that Ukrainians are 98% prone to betrayal, then we also need to take these weapons. They betrayed us, they will betray the new owners ...
              Only HOW then to live? I don’t know how, but I can’t forgive ...
              1. +5
                31 October 2016 16: 14
                Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
                I am calling against the military.

                Stop, stop ...
                Wait a moment ...
                It means, according to polls of "public opinion", up to 70% of Russians can support a limited military operation (in addition to the Aerospace Forces) in Syria, but with respect to the DPR-LPR, such figures should not be expected?
                Well, of course, you can refer to the fact that they say "brotherly peoples", "ruin everything" and other lyrics like that ...
                But is it serious when geopolitical issues are at stake?
                1. +1
                  31 October 2016 16: 29
                  Now, if 70% of the population of Ukraine are against those who are currently in power, then it makes sense to talk. Really.
                  Because the ...
                  To be honest, I didn’t quite understand why there shouldn’t be a referendum on secession and so on - there are precedents ... But again - first Ukraine will fall upon the DLNR with the help of the EU, on the other side of the Russian Federation - and again the same war ..
                  I honestly say - I do not have enough brains to resolve this node. My desires are one thing, but reality is another.
                  1. +5
                    31 October 2016 16: 43
                    Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
                    Now, if 70% of the population of Ukraine are against those who are currently in power, then it makes sense to talk. Really.

                    And if I tell you that it is not against 70 but 75%, or even more?
                    And this figure is not so far from real, I assure you.
                    The only thing is that society, especially Ukrainian, is so "motley" that these 75% include those who fiercely hate the junta and "Nezalezhnist" itself and those who do not care at all, well, "variations" on the theme " I do not know anything, my hut is on the edge "
                    1. +1
                      31 October 2016 16: 57
                      So you need a catalyst?
                      Or is there a need for a sacrifice, whose blood will be raised as the banner of the "struggle for liberation"?
                      And again - the best will go to fight, so to speak, the "potency" of the nation ... those who want to sit out - this ... well, I don't know ...
                      I willingly believe that it is, as you say ... but apparently the impetus, so to speak, the separation point should be made by the residents of Ukraine themselves.
                      1. +4
                        31 October 2016 17: 06
                        Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
                        So you need a catalyst?

                        Nooooo ...
                        Need here detonator... More precisely, the complex initialization of the explosive ... I already wrote above about the components of such a "bomb" ...
              2. 0
                31 October 2016 20: 33
                Quote: Skeptic Self-taught
                If they calculated that Ukrainians are 98% prone to betrayal, then we also need to take these weapons. They betrayed us, they will betray the new owners ...

                here the fruits of that propaganda are already walking around as "the ultimate truth"
                No one calculated anything ... you have paranoia. One invented and away we go. I can also say about any people. And post a picture on the Internet. Yes, it can’t 98% ... Maybe the Ukrainian SSR even fought for the Reich? Where did millions come from in the spacecraft? Thousands of awarded-millions killed apparently by mistake?
                1. 0
                  31 October 2016 21: 09
                  Apparently, these millions are from New Russia (Cossacks, ane h.ohly), but the rest are from the ruins
            2. +3
              31 October 2016 16: 30
              Here are the consequences of zurabovschiny we disentangle (
              1. +7
                31 October 2016 16: 51
                Quote: elenagromova
                Here are the consequences of zurabovschiny we disentangle (

                Zurabovschina - Zurabovshchina ...
                But he did not buy the status of "plenipotentiary" in the bazaar (or bought ? what) ... SOMEBODY Stubbornly kept him there ...
                Zurabov is a "switchman". The true culprits of the failure in Ukraine are sitting in other offices ...
                But that is not the point.
                The main thing,so that those "who are sitting in the offices" NOW have an idea of ​​WHAT and HOW they want to do in Donbass and in Ukraine as a whole.
        2. 0
          2 November 2016 11: 39
          Answer:
          1 - Deny money transfers to Ukraine.
          2 - To the appropriate authorities to withdraw the taxes from working ukrov in Russia and send them back.
          3 - Completely "disable" dill through eonomic channels.
      2. 0
        31 October 2016 18: 17
        Quote: elenagromova
        The solution is simple - remove the junta.

        Here go and take it away.
        1. +10
          31 October 2016 19: 13
          Quote: Normal ok
          Quote: elenagromova
          The solution is simple - remove the junta.

          Here go and take it away.

          That is rude, respected and poking, especially a woman, is not necessary.
  5. +1
    31 October 2016 14: 01
    Savchenko again, well, she could not correct the fire while in captivity, let alone illegally cross the border, but what if the show was made from the court or would you mind? they could have closed the court and everyone who knew about it, but it was a show and the essence of the project called savchenko is not completely understood. You will prove the opposite, watch the video when she was captured and when the journalists died.
    1. +7
      31 October 2016 14: 41
      All the "evidence" presented by Savchenko's defense was denied by the Russian investigation and the court. She was sentenced to guilty. And they pardoned.
      Personally, I tend to trust the Russian court, rather than the punitive "Aydar".
      1. aba
        +1
        31 October 2016 19: 36
        With all due respect to you, but the very fact of Savchenko’s appearance in Russia is shrouded in darkness: captured, released, but she’s a fool and cross the border of the Russian Federation. Well, for whom are they holding us? And why did you need this show with this fool? And this show made an ordinary gangster a national hero. The desire of some will please the authorities in a striking way leads to the opposite effect for the convicted, at least to recall the story of the mad rabbits. But it was necessary to do it simply quickly and without politics, so they would have been forgotten right after the trial.
        PS I do not feel the slightest sympathy for Savchenko and other freaks from Dill.
      2. +1
        31 October 2016 20: 41
        Quote: elenagromova
        Personally, I tend to trust the Russian court, rather than the punitive "Aydar".

        Well, if a person with a wounded arm could climb a pole for a review (because there were no positions to be seen) then it’s guilty (it could, they didn’t even prove that it climbed)
        The fairest Russian court ... he always honestly judges. Vasiliev for example.
        Savchenko is indifferent to me. But the trial was ridiculous. It would be better to condemn Vasilyeva (she could steal, then she stole, then she was in Kolyma)
        1. +2
          31 October 2016 21: 16
          Where did you see a wounded hand. Here, many saw her video in captivity after the destruction of the Aidar - no wounded hands. My aunt then went to combat operation in full health - and when she adjusted the fire - she was also healthy. Stayed on ukrosaytah, ukrobanderlog?
    2. +4
      31 October 2016 15: 57
      Quote: activator
      Savchenko again, well, she could not correct the fire while in captivity, let alone illegally cross the border, but what if the show was made from the court or would you mind?


      Are you a lawyer? Or dill for life, and you care about this over?
      What do you care about her now? What are these lamentations, gasps and sighs for?
      1. 0
        31 October 2016 20: 44
        Quote: Venceremos
        Are you a lawyer? Or dill for life, and you care about this over?

        there is the concept of justice and logic. The fact that in the information war — she is the devil in the flesh and burn her like a witch (has already been repeatedly in history) —this is understandable. But will it REALLY be JUST? Or the Principle - Everything that we do is CORRECT. because we do it?
        1. +1
          31 October 2016 21: 18
          And then she showed herself a good kid? They tried her fairly and in the case. It was resonant, it was impossible to allow flaws. Yes, you were not interested in the process itself. The main thing to say right now is unfair. Still, you need to give you a knee, it is necessary))))
        2. +2
          31 October 2016 22: 55
          there is the concept of justice and logic.
          The concepts of justice, logic and Ukraine do not fit together at all.
    3. +5
      31 October 2016 16: 48
      That is, Nadya is white and fluffy? And then the "insidious" Shit ????? Ay, yay, yay, again Putin's intrigues .......
      1. +1
        31 October 2016 17: 26
        Putin at first denied presence in Ukraine, then confirmed. I think the machinations. And the way this woman behaved also speaks volumes in favor of her innocence.
        As for shelling houses, I think that just like that, no one will shoot anywhere. Most likely from the shelled house they shot at the positions of the APU. And received in response. Civilians, respectively, came under attack. Or a miss. I repeat that they fired from the position of the APU for a reason.
        In the video below I will explain how this could happen. Givi with friends shoots from a residential building with a mortar.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9XAcZKRu40
        1. +4
          31 October 2016 19: 44
          yes that you, that you. What shelling by the APU?
          There simply air conditioners explode on their own. I have in the LDNR. And ordinary people die from these explosions. And the right sector is generally a beacon of "democracy" and "peacefulness."
          Yes, and Bandera and Shukhevych, mind you, the outskirts at the state level, who were elevated to national heroes, fighters for "freedom".
          And what are we talking about? the Ukrainian front liberated the outskirts, which had nothing to do with the Red (Soviet) Army.
          1. +2
            31 October 2016 22: 08
            And yet, ukrozhidonatsifashibanderovtsy get drunk and quench in cities and villages, what would take their soul?
            Quote: Smog
            Bandera with Shukhevych, note elevated to the national heroes of the outskirts at the state level
            “It makes me hot and cold.” And who, from your point of view, were these individuals?

            Quote: Smog
            And what are we talking about? the Ukrainian front liberated the outskirts, which had nothing to do with the Red (Soviet) Army.
            - and this is generally "out of the ordinary." What are you talking about? No offense, but the answer is more like hysteria. I apologize in advance if the answer was not addressed to me.
        2. +3
          2 November 2016 06: 30
          As for shelling houses, I think that just like that, no one will shoot anywhere.
          Hear the "thinker", you would come to Gorlovka and see for yourself who is standing where and who is firing at whom, otherwise all the "knowledge" about the war from "tyrnet" is taken from such clever guys ...
          1. 0
            2 November 2016 14: 44
            Did you play the role of someone poking there?
            I wrote completely adequate things that can be challenged if there are opposite arguments.
            Armed Forces of Ukraine shoot at settlements due to:
            1. Dislike for the locals (because in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the Jews are Bandera)
            2. I just want to shoot (when they get drunk)
            3. Overshot (because Krivorukov and blind)
            Underline whatever applicable. If you didn’t find the right answer, then write me the reasons why Ukrainian troops are firing at living quarters. Invitations - come and see are not accepted. Who is where I also do not care. Once got into the conversation, then explain specifically what and how.
      2. +1
        31 October 2016 18: 16
        Well, yes, immediately dill a la poplar so answer when Savchenko was captured and when the journalists died weakly? and why was the show with her court exactly? or someone else like that I’ve promoted, for example, I don’t particularly remember besides her others. And since the killer wasn’t even banned from entering the country, it’s already banned for one illegal crossing of the border. have met? and then the killer took her there. !!! Once again, Savchenko is a project until the end I don’t understand what and how, but we already call her an agent of the FSB and these are those who recently shouted Savchenko’s freedom. Not seeing the obvious is not likely.
        1. +2
          31 October 2016 20: 46
          Quote: activator
          Once again, Savchenko is a project to the end

          actually an international project. RF is also involved. It is strange that for the Russians themselves this is something unknown - and for them she is "the punisher of the junta and at the same time Putin's agent (or Our agent)
          1. +1
            31 October 2016 21: 30
            Do you smoke shmal again? If anyone of us claims this, then in the order of Hochma and trolling. You stayed on ukrosayt
        2. 0
          31 October 2016 21: 34
          Did you figure it out in your own writing?
          The journalists died on June 17 on the same day, but much later your mother fell, but not in the queens, but in full. For leading soldiers into battle is not for you to correct from cover ...
          1. +1
            31 October 2016 22: 05
            Quote: znavel
            Did you figure it out in your own writing?
            The journalists died on June 17 on the same day, but much later your mother fell, but not in the queens, but in full. For leading soldiers into battle is not for you to correct from cover ...

            An article was published on Topvar on July 17 that the aydar was gouged by 10 a.m. and at that time it was already captured, and the journalists died in mine around 12. If anyone can search on the LAN resource, I couldn’t look .
            1. 0
              2 November 2016 00: 16
              And remembering the video there, it was already far after noon, one might say it was getting darker
            2. +3
              2 November 2016 00: 37
              And remembering the video there, it was already far after noon, one might say it was getting darker.
              And here is what I got on the internet:
              Dmitry Tymchuk
              According to the Information Resistance group, the tragic situation with the Aidar battalion associated with the death of the battalion's soldiers and servicemen who came to the aid of the anti-terrorist operation units was caused primarily by the lack of planning of the operation, during which the battalion was ambushed.
              In particular, on June 17, the "Aydar" battalion with the force of 100 people independently went to the assault on Lugansk. These actions were not coordinated with the ATO headquarters.
              Having been ambushed, the command called for help. Two operational groups of anti-terrorist operation forces on armored vehicles arrived at the battlefield.
              However, due to the significant superiority of the terrorists in personnel and firepower, with all the heroism shown by the fighters of the "Aydar" battalion and the security forces, they suffered heavy losses. Although during the battle, they killed more than 30 terrorists.
              The clash lasted about three hours from 14 to 17
              And the link where the text is: http://ria-m.tv/news/8856/separatistyi_razbili_ba
              talon_aydar.html
              So sho, no 10 am it was getting dark there. And your vile, in a rage in the morning, killing civilians, went quiet only at 17 o'clock, when she was politely told: "Hands up the hill, muzhebab"
  6. +4
    31 October 2016 16: 26
    Russophobia can be cured only by a certain portion of lead in an empty skull box of the carrier of these ideas:
    1. +2
      31 October 2016 20: 48
      Russophobia (from Russian and other Greek: φόβος - fear) - a biased, suspicious, hostile, hostile attitude towards Russia and / or towards Russians. (ATP Wiki)
      You can apply to everything, so to speak brand.
      I am against the Kremlin is Russophobia? And if the Kremlin itself is Russophobic policy-is Russophobia Russophobia? smile
      1. +2
        31 October 2016 21: 35
        This is the "pharmacy" rich in your home. Thoughts with which spread from you far across the Universe, and not everyone succeeds in returning))))). And you are not against the Kremlin - you are against the Russians, like true dill
  7. +2
    31 October 2016 16: 32
    Nadya Khavchenko wanted to fall back to the prison refrigerator with sweets, clink a glass of vodka with the owner of the colony and stammer melancholy with lard. But Surkov said: "Take the loot and bring it back to Ukraine, don't shine here."
  8. +1
    31 October 2016 18: 24
    (... this junta is supported by the West ...)

    If only the west. And how many r.o.lo.h.o.e. are among us, go with Russian passports and at the same time exude hatred towards their country, which gave them everything and life, and education, and work, and a peaceful existence. Here, take at least the representative of the young generation - 36-year-old Igor Drandin. I (albeit with difficulty) will understand the discontent of a veteran who has invested his work and health in the country, but this one did what he did for good? And to listen to him, so is the speech of Zbigniew Brzezinski. So itchy hands, but ... we are politically correct even to outright enemies.
  9. 0
    31 October 2016 18: 53
    Quote: activator
    And how was it that they didn’t even forbid the killer from entering the country? For one illegal crossing of the border, it’s already banned. And a trip to the DPR and meeting there at the top or with whom did she meet there? and it was there that the killer was taken. !!

    --------------------------
    She has parliamentary immunity, she is a member of PACE. We can't hold her back now. She is protected by international law, which is not written only in Ukraine.
    1. 0
      31 October 2016 19: 23
      Quote: Altona
      She has parliamentary immunity, she is a member of PACE. We can't hold her back now. She is protected by international law, which is not written only in Ukraine.

      I didn’t say to delay, entry could have been banned? These are different things, by the way, we have PACE "members" whose entry into Russia is prohibited.
      1. +3
        31 October 2016 19: 55
        Why not let her in? Let him eat, drink vodka.
      2. +1
        31 October 2016 21: 39
        And then return her to her compatriots and watch her greet tenderly and gently for the putenoid))). It's so funny, like to the monkeys in the aviary to let an unprecedented little animal))))
  10. 0
    31 October 2016 21: 05
    By the first emotion understood, Elena Gromova. Having read to the end - I was not mistaken.

    Because they persecute people who speak, sing and write in Russian. Because our common history is distorted

    Not quite right - certain organizations (they have long been unpopular and just an instrument) like PS and Azov are chasing speakers and singers. But this does not stop speaking Russian and singing on the central channels. It is unlikely that you can silence someone by disruption of concerts. Neither Nastya, nor Lorak, nor the Christmas tree nor anyone else.
    About the distortion of history. This is such a process. To begin with, each government rewrites it for itself, in the whole world. I cannot say that another process is taking place in “young and democratic Russia”. Boards, white application of reds and greens. Yes, the same process is only kind of unofficial (like decommunization and de-Sovietization). Who just kicked a dead lion (USSR). And I planted "bombs" for Russia and did it wrong and in general ..
    You know your moments better than me, you are hardly proud of it, but articles about Ukrainian decommunization are more often than Russian! then Ukrainian is more interesting.
    A separate line on the "junta" and Poroshenko.
    What is this "junta"? This is the government of Ukraine legally recognized by the countries of the world (including the RF). And Poroshenko is Putin's friend and the best choice of the Ukrainian people! And in the most difficult moments, it was the Russian Federation that saved the "bloody pastry chef".
    Or are you against the policy of the Russian Federation? Against Minsk?
    paradoxically, in Russian and Ukrainian society there is a break in the template (the Russian Federation is a junta, but partners, while the Ukrainians have a war, but "the aggressor, give me something."
    And so it seems all HPP.
    I have not changed my opinion about the business war. And "fascists" "terrorists" "punitive" "Bandera" and other fauna and flora are for mere mortals. Internal consumption of information sources.
    War under the patriotic slogans of the same people in the same territory! And everyone likes it! The urine of "terrorists" is next to the urine of "Bandera".
    But worst of all to the inhabitants of the Regions. They are fighting to enter Ukraine. And for the sake of HPP. But no one promised them anything. Just a tool.
    The trouble .. however ..
  11. +2
    31 October 2016 21: 28
    Savchenko has a strange idea of ​​Hell - he will be surprised when he gets into the real ..
  12. 0
    31 October 2016 21: 47
    Quote: Venceremos
    Russia's tough, combined military-political-economic blow to the junta would not have left any memories of it long ago. But this is "anyhow" ... Unfortunately.

    Well, so our oligarchs have, had their own business on the outskirts and dream of returning it, or actively participate in business there. Therefore, there is no economic pressure on Ukropia and the gang that came to power through the Nazi coup. And they could terminate the gas agreement with dill for transit and supplies, due to the illegitimacy of the local authorities. They say that what about gas in Europe - so the northern stream works at half its capacity. Instead, they de facto recognized Bandera’s power and are now rushing with it like a dumb undergrowth. They still do not pay debts to the Russian Federation and will not. Then the EU itself would put pressure on dill, and now it’s to blame for the whole of Russia. Then with SP-2 there would be no delays. Here, the Russian Federation lost both financially and politically - they drove themselves into an outskirts of Kut.
    And all the greed of our financiers, expressing the will of the oligarchy. hi

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