Syrian military "reanimated" Soviet 240-mm mortars

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The fighting in Syria practically forced government troops to reanimate the Soviet M-240 heavy duty mortars, which, according to some sources, should already be completely removed from service, writes Messenger of Mordovia.

Syrian military "reanimated" Soviet 240-mm mortars




These mortars were used by the Syrians in the 1973 war. In the Soviet army they were considered obsolete in the 1980 and began to be massively replaced with self-propelled 2C4. This equipment was not supplied to the Syrians.

By the beginning of the civil war in the SAR, the mortars M-240 could be found for the most part in museums. However, intense fighting forced the military leadership to return it weapon in build.

According to Vestnik, at present Syrian mortar units have begun to receive from Russia "more modern 240-mm mines, in particular the Nerpa 3OXNNXX active-reactive mines with fragmental combat elements."

The weight of such ammunition 230 kg, and the weight of the warhead - up to 112 kg. The maximum firing range is about 19,3 km. One mine is capable of striking enemy manpower on an area up to 1,4 ha.

"Some military experts expected that the Syrians would also be transferred
the 3F5 type mines of the 1K113 "Brave" complex, but so far there is no information on the receipt of the Syrian army of such ammunition, ”the author Dmitry Lemeshko concludes.
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  1. +13
    27 October 2016 12: 33
    The fact that the old ones are resuscitated is only good. The main thing is that there should be no problems with ammunition.
    began to receive from Russia "more modern 240-mm mines, in particular active-reactive 3O8" Nerpa "with fragmentation warheads."

    That's fine.
    1. +15
      27 October 2016 12: 52
      The very thing is that the barmaley were not bored good
      1. +1
        27 October 2016 13: 44
        So this is the Terrorists take off ... Ha
        1. +2
          27 October 2016 18: 04
          the guys with the video do not steam at all - we behaved more briskly at the training ground

          They go in shirts of different colors. Walk I would even say

          In general, is there an army or a militia on the video?

          Judging by the video there is not a war but a joke. pop in milk and go to bed

  2. +10
    27 October 2016 12: 34
    The news was at VO a month ago, what will we discuss for the second time? recourse
    1. avt
      +3
      27 October 2016 12: 41
      Quote: Hunter
      The news was at VO a month ago, what will we discuss for the second time?

      what Then they kind of printed 160mm.
      1. +4
        27 October 2016 13: 12
        160 mm, 240 mm --- I'm afraid to assume that they will "print" in another month.
        1. avt
          +4
          27 October 2016 13: 22
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          160 mm, 240 mm --- I'm afraid to assume that they will "print" in another month.

          Do you think that there is a “Capacitor / Transformer” or “Oka” somewhere in the warehouse !? wassat At 420mm bully
          1. +3
            27 October 2016 13: 38
            How would they take the bombers from the museum ...
            1. +3
              27 October 2016 14: 55
              It will be necessary and the "bombards" will be taken to defend their country.
          2. +1
            27 October 2016 14: 53
            Quote: avt
            Do you think that there is a “Capacitor / Transformer” or “Oka” somewhere in the warehouse !? At 420

            Notice, I didn’t suggest it! (C) wassat
          3. +2
            28 October 2016 08: 33
            The 420-mm mortar with a barrel length of almost 20 meters (forty-seven and a half calibers) was installed as the main gun on the Oka. Each shell weighed 750 kilograms, so the mortar was charged from the breech with a special crane. This significantly affected the rate of fire of the car - it took about five minutes to fire a shot from one of the Oka. The firing range at the same time reached 45 kilometers. The heavy weight of the mines severely limited the vehicle’s ammunition: the 2Б-1 self-propelled mortar was able to take only one mine with a nuclear warhead. However, anyone versed in military affairs will tell you that even a single tactical nuclear strike is capable of prejudging the course of any battle. A vertical hydraulic drive was used to guide the gun vertically, horizontal guidance was carried out by turning the entire machine, and more accurate guidance was achieved thanks to an electric motor. Exactly the same aiming system was used on the “Condenser”, with its 406-mm CM-54 gun.
  3. +3
    27 October 2016 12: 38
    Well, that’s it, Khan of Barmaley. Catch the mates if you can. 1.4 Ha, go nuts. Well, as I understand it, in the open. With this caliber, the hills can be planned at zero.
    1. +8
      27 October 2016 13: 26
      The kill zone of 1,4 hectares is highlighted in yellow. The scale is impressive, and in Syria they will be quite comfortable to work, because the enemy practically does not conduct counter-battery fire at such distances. Equip the firing position and beat at the strongpoints of the militants. Well, and the protection "from the air" this is already on the conscience of the Russian Aerospace Forces and Air Defense.
      1. +6
        27 October 2016 14: 02
        The lesion area of ​​1,4 ha is highlighted in yellow.


        Duc depends on the relief. In urban areas, in the conditions of rubble, burrows and underground passages, this "affected area" can be reduced to 10 square meters, exactly the diameter of the funnel 3,5 meters. And if there is a rock, then the depth of such a funnel will not impress. I understand that they use such methods to maximize the density of the fire, so that the specialists would have time to make a throw while the bearded ones take out the dust from their ears in the holes. And when they cannot crawl out of the hole because of the targeted shooting, the road to the hurias is already easy and short for them.
        1. +5
          27 October 2016 14: 51
          Quote: Asadullah
          up to 10 square meters, exactly the diameter of the funnel is 3,5 meters. And if the rock, then the depth of such a funnel will not impress

          Rock is very good. If a fragmentation mine explodes, touching the surface, boulders, etc., at the point of impact, within a radius of 3-4 meters, only a small crumb remains. Moreover, 20 cm everything is cut off. All this "husk" adds a fragmentation effect at times. There, such a hurricane turns out, as approximately "Shilka" in a grove cuts a clearing. So I do not recommend praying within a radius of 100 meters.
          1. +1
            27 October 2016 15: 26
            All this "husk" adds a fragmentation effect at times.


            Adds, just not a hundred meters. Well, if only specifically the floor of the brick on the head. A small section very quickly loses inertia. Not even flashing a plywood partition. From this the question is raised about the relief. In the desert, there is already an inshallah, neither a helmet nor an armor can save from a hundred-gram steel fragment, which will also pierce a centuries-old pine. The building relief suppresses the gap of the blasting explosive; the risk of fragmentation is minimal. The shock wave quickly subsides. Can overwhelm a fighter in a room, overwhelm entrances to a shelter. You can choke on dust if you used a lot of gypsum in construction. That is why in urban areas b / n volumetric explosion are most effective.
            1. +3
              27 October 2016 18: 59
              The hit of this mine demolishes a five-story building, so just right for the destruction of the barmalei settled in the urban zone. What can I say if they are outside the city?
              At first, the Syrians rained down on the enemy the old ammunition that had been stored in warehouses, which had long expired. But then, after the start of the VKS operation in Syria, the Syrian mortarmen began to receive more modern versions of 240-mm mines. In particular, active-rocket mines 3O8 "Nerpa" with fragmentation warheads.

              The mass of such a mine is 230 kg, and the warhead is up to 112 kg. The maximum firing range is more than 19,3 km. Mina can hit enemy manpower on an area of ​​1,4 hectares.

              As a result, the terrorists began to suffer significant losses.

              Some military experts expected Syrians to also be handed over
              corrected mines of the 3F5 type of the 1K113 "Daredevil" complex, but so far there is no information on the receipt of such ammunition by the Syrian army.
              1. +4
                27 October 2016 21: 21
                The mass of such a mine is 230 kg, and the warhead is up to 112 kg. The maximum firing range is more than 19,3 km. Mina can hit enemy manpower on an area of ​​1,4 hectares.
                As a result, the terrorists began to suffer significant losses.


                Let's take a look at the tasks of such weapons. Which was widely used in Afghanistan. Destruction of fortified areas for a high-explosive charge. The fact is that the enemy does not sit still and does not wait for him to be covered with the entire house book, reconnaissance works and, as a rule, retreat to reserve positions. In Afghanistan, they worked not only with "Tulips", but long-range carriers dropped the FAB9000, changing the terrain. How effective was this tactic? Against a fast-moving enemy in the mountains? Only because the mountain fortifications were destroyed and could not serve as strongholds. Physical losses were minimal. Nothing changes in Syria either, high-explosive artillery units serve to destroy stronghold positions. The ruins of urban areas have been modified into a system of long-term firing points, this system is violated by high-explosive artillery units of high power, advanced units occupy them practically without losses, and from both sides. Are fixed. The war in Syria is going on in such small steps. When the supply and communications system is disrupted, the bearded ones themselves leave their positions, to replace them. By the way, spare ones are also created taking into account as much as possible to prevent the troops from gaining a foothold on new ones. Such a pull that lasts for years. For jihadists are supported by half the world. Both ammunition and people. War is not the miraculous killing of all villains with one perfect large-diameter weapon, but a system of hard and hectic work, as a result of which the death rate in production increases. And here it is already a matter of experience and professionalism, put the librarian at the combine, most likely he will quickly find himself in a bunker with grain, in parts. So in war, no one wants to die, and for survival they include all their professional skills, and then how lucky. Green does not need two centners per head, enough of a fool to run into fittings.
            2. +3
              27 October 2016 22: 26
              Excuse me, but a circle with a radius of 100 m is already 3,14 hectares.
  4. +7
    27 October 2016 12: 38
    wow, powerful stuff! with good intelligence, and it’s good there, with one blow you can sweep the clusters of militants into forcemeat even in shelters.
  5. +4
    27 October 2016 12: 39
    Why not? What is the reason they will rust in warehouses?
  6. +1
    27 October 2016 12: 50
    give ammunition bearded am
  7. +1
    27 October 2016 13: 03
    The power is good. But the rate of fire is too small - 1 shot per minute. There would certainly be more effect from using the "Brave". Maybe they'll also give you a lift. And ours need to practice.
    1. +3
      27 October 2016 20: 28
      This mine is comparable to the FAB-250 (fug.aviabomb) - if you hit a high-rise building, we get ruins. If anyone remains alive, then minutes will not be enough to recover. So power compensates for time. The second mine in a minute is a neighboring, second house; panic is ensured. So all this is no-fly time - art is no less scary, but much cheaper sometimes. hi
      The battery of such mortars during intensive work is more than enough to replace the air raid. Imagine such an artillery battery in ten minutes - it will turn quarters into a desert.
  8. +7
    27 October 2016 13: 19
    good gluten, impressive, though clumsy compared to younger brothers, but the effect is completely different))
  9. +1
    27 October 2016 14: 46
    good thing
  10. 0
    27 October 2016 16: 27
    The old men will fight again, everything that "made in USSR" for 30-40 years works properly)
  11. +3
    27 October 2016 16: 51
    Well, it’s glorious, and now it remains only to drive all the terrorists into its place in the desert and shy away as it should.
  12. +2
    27 October 2016 17: 37
    For such a thing, if there are mines with homing by the laser beam or by GLONAS or by photographing the terrain in battle, there is no price. Itself is far from the front, it is inexpensive, mines are quite cheap (compared to homing bombs) and you don’t need those planes and airfields, pilots and kerosene. True, ammunition is troublesome to transport, but everything is cheap and affordable.
  13. +4
    27 October 2016 18: 29
    I recently wrote that the Syrians would be very useful self-propelled 240 mm mortars "Tulip" to destroy bunkers and ammunition depots under the ground. The use of adjustable mines would significantly reduce the consumption of ammunition and collateral damage. My assumptions turned out to be correct, although I was sharply criticized by one "expert".
    1. +1
      28 October 2016 09: 41
      Quote: mr.redpartizan
      The use of adjustable mines would significantly reduce the consumption of ammunition and collateral damage. My assumptions turned out to be correct, although I was sharply criticized by one "expert".

      Who will correct them? Again our heroic commandos? Maybe enough losses? Let the Syrians themselves solve their problems - Russia helps with weapons and trains.
  14. 0
    27 October 2016 18: 51
    These are lighter and more convenient - 160 mm
  15. 0
    27 October 2016 19: 54
    shaitan trumpet or trumpet shaitan ?!
  16. 0
    27 October 2016 20: 17
    Yes, they need to give most of the junk of Soviet times! And we are better and they feel good)) good
  17. 0
    27 October 2016 20: 39
    new mines adjustable?
  18. +1
    28 October 2016 09: 39
    With the lack of a counter-battery struggle, this rarity will work well for barmaleas.
  19. 0
    28 October 2016 12: 47
    This is mine! Wherever she falls, she will turn everything and everyone.
  20. 0
    1 November 2016 08: 14
    It’s better than not what.
  21. 0
    2 November 2016 11: 19
    In fact, such mortars practically replace aviation. Count weaving on the head of BAMS. The Germans thought so when our first time used them.
  22. 0
    2 November 2016 22: 29
    Well, that’s right.
    If we are pressed, we will reanimate the Katyusha

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