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Why did the long march of the Russian AUG to the Mediterranean cause a general panic in Britain?

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The sending to the coast of Syria of the only full-fledged carrier-based strike group of the Russian Navy, as well as the formation of a powerful layered missile defense in the airspace of the SAR with the help of the best and most tenacious S-300B4 air defense systems, takes place against the background of Kirby's insane threats towards tactical aviation our aerospace forces, as well as the Syrian military aviation, successfully supporting the ground operation to clean up Syrian land from ISIS militants raised by the West.

When the front line confidently and unshakably approached Washington’s strategic interest, Aleppo, US Secretary of State John Kerry spoke on October 20 about the futility and counterproductiveness of liberating this large city, relying on a hastily conceived possibility of “revenge from militants who refuse to negotiate.” Meanwhile, what could be negotiations with terrorist organizations? The practice of law enforcement agencies of the Russian Federation provides for the immediate resolution of such issues by conducting counter-terrorist operations at the local level and large-scale military operations of the VKS (Syrian example) - on the global one.

As you already noticed, the transition of our carrier group across the English Channel caused a real panic in the British media, on forums, and most importantly - in navy and the air force. Anglo-Saxon forum users and bloggers, among whom were unfortunate emigrants from Russia and the “independent”, managed to lay out a mountain of ridicule regarding puffs of smoke rising above the ship’s superstructure, forgetting to think at least a little bit that this is a feature of any, even modern, boiler turbine power installation, which, in addition to steam turbines with a total capacity of 200 thousand hp, there are also 6 diesel generators. At the same time, no one has yet canceled problems with the “burning” of oil or excessive consumption of fuel, which leads to such smoke. Stupid ridicule now and then gave way to real fear because of the proximity of the flagships of the Russian fleet to strategic military facilities in the southern part of Great Britain. The British made a real psychosis: there were even fears of a possible missile attack by Russian ships with the subsequent seizure of cities. The insanity of such statements completely excludes any analysis, meanwhile, there are grounds for fear, because London has a "little snout", and our AUG, as was recently confirmed, is not without surprises.

Thus, according to the Daily Mail, the British leadership has begun to more seriously consider a possible conflict with the Russian Federation after the sharp attacks of their foreign minister, Boris Johnson, on the air operation of the VCS in Syria, where he called for demonstrations at the Russian embassy our actions drag out the conflict. And this is said by the foreign minister of a country whose air force did not attach even the twentieth part of the efforts that our military contingent is making against the IS in the Syrian Arab Republic. This is one of the main reasons for the observed fears of London.


The latest air defense destroyer Type 45 - D37 HMS “Duncan” of the British Navy accompanies the Russian AUG passing the English Channel. On the horizon on the left is a heavy nuclear missile cruiser of the Peter the Great 1144.2 Ave., on the right is a heavy aircraft carrier missile cruiser of the 1143.5 Ave. Admiral Kuznetsov.


The second point, of course, is a military technical issue, or rather, a recent news, which was voiced for Interfax-AVN by the representative of the Northern Fleet of the Russian Navy, captain of the 1 rank Vadim Serga. So, on October 17 2016, he announced the successful completion of tests of the 3М-45 “Granit” heavy supersonic anti-ship missile in defeating the “complex” coastal target. A multipurpose nuclear submarine cruiser (SSGN) of the Antey 949 A-K-410 Smolensk was used as a carrier. The launch of the 2-fly-out 3М45 was carried out from a submerged position. But the most important thing is that the strike with a heavy anti-ship missile was struck deep into the coastal part of the Novaya Zemlya archipelago, which indicates the ability of Granites to carry out large-scale attack operations on the enemy’s ground infrastructure.

Now we look at the number of these missiles onboard the Admiral Kuznetsov and the Peter the Great TARK, which are leading our group: the total number of 3-45 in the CM-233 / A inclined launchers is 32 missiles with an 550-625 km range at high altitude flight paths. During the massive strike of Granita, the swarm of the 3М-45 anti-ship missiles, which have turned into multi-purpose long-range tactical missiles, can in various modes fly up to a complex ground target covered by several modern short-range, short-range anti-aircraft missiles. One rocket, for example, can rise to a height of about 500 m and patrol in 70 — 50 km from the target, transferring tactical information (obtained by the active RGSN) to other low-flying link missiles. The rest will continue their flight to the target with a rounding of the terrain and simultaneous access to tactically convenient exit angles.

Thanks to an advanced artificial intelligence system built on the basis of an 4-hprocessor-based on-board computer, a drive with a loaded electronic database on types of surface and ground targets identified by the reflecting surface and the frequencies of the radar of the RL means, each anti-ship missile of the Granit complex operates in accordance with the specified mode attacks. So, the object defended by the modern PAAMS / SAMP-T anti-aircraft missile system 3М-45 will be approached exclusively in the low-altitude mode, and using the onboard electronic warfare complex 3БХNNXX Quartz. When intercepting "Granites" with enemy anti-aircraft missiles, the first are capable of making intensive anti-aircraft maneuvers.

Passing the English Channel, our carrier-based strike force holds the entire southern and central parts of Great Britain, down to the Isle of Man, half of France, Belgium, the Netherlands and Germany, under the guns of the 3-45 missiles, which for obvious reasons frightens the Europeans. Reflecting the impact of even a couple of dozens of these missiles is absolutely not equivalent to intercepting the same number of slower and lighter Tomahawks: the 7-ton cruise missile will continue high-speed flight even after the hull is hit by the directional fragmentation or core effect of the interceptor missile, and as a result can reach the target. In the case of a direct hit to the body on the principle of "hit-to-kill", a heavy 750-kilogram high-explosive warhead can survive. In the dive mode, she will continue to fly to the target along the ballistic trajectory and will "lie down" in close proximity to it. Now you understand the essence of the psychosis of Western Europe after the appearance of our ships.

Not less annoying the British and defensive weapons, which are installed on our ships. "Peter the Great" is the carrier of X-NUMX-x long-range anti-aircraft missile systems - the C-2F Fort and the C-300FM Fort-M. Passing through the English Channel, the radii of action of the Fort-M create a no-fly zone almost over the entire territory of London at heights to 300 — 30 km, this is not the Frigate frigate with the only defensive Dagger on board. It was “Peter the Great” that made the British leadership and military command really nervous.

Yes, and no matter how much they "jibe" about the fuming power plant "Admiral Kuznetsov", in reality, they realize that they are dealing with the most protected aircraft carrier in the world. With the help of 8 combat modules ZRAK 3М87 "Dirk" and 4 KZRK "Dagger", capable of reflecting the simultaneous "stellar raid" 48 of Garpun anti-ship missiles, plus you should not forget about 6 ZAK AK-630. Western European media reported that the NATO naval command prepared for our ships a kind of “cat-and-mouse game” during which various surface ships and submarines of the British, Spanish and French naval forces would secretly accompany our ships to the shores of Syria, coordinating actions between each combat unit. Considering that the inevitable global military confrontation awaits us ahead of time, this “game” can be regarded as full-fledged military exercises with a likely adversary. Undoubtedly, our sailors will also gain invaluable experience in detecting, tracking and identifying NATO ships and submarines using radar signatures, acoustic noise, as well as radiation frequencies of shipborne radar complexes. Attention to our AUG from the side of the Allied Forces of NATO is more than close. For example, on the eve of the 2 British tactical fighter "Tornado GR4A" passed at low altitude over the AUG: according to Western sources, in order to obtain photographs of super high resolution, which can be considered in detail the state of weapons and radar systems of warships.

The flagship ships of the Russian fleet are accompanied by the 2 large anti-submarine ships of the 1155 Ave. “Deloi” - the Vice-Admiral Kulakov and Severomorsk. These ships with a displacement of 7500 tons have the most balanced range of weapons in their class, among which are: 2 ZRK "Dagger" simultaneously on 8 target channels for aerial targets, 4 ZAK AK-630M, 8 anti-submarine guided missiles 85-RU "Rastrub-B ", 2x12 rocket-6000" Smerch-2 "bomb-throwing bombs. The anti-submarine armament of the BOD Ave. 1155 is controlled by the 3 generation MG-355 “Polynom” hydroacoustic complex. This complex, under normal hydrological conditions, is capable of detecting enemy submarine targets in the first far zone of acoustic illumination (40-50 km). Of course, the AN / SQQ-89 (V) 7-15 series American SACs are more sensitive and accompany more targets, but the “Polynom” is enough to monitor the MAPL of the “Astute” type and other submarines suitable for our ships.

Press Secretary of the President of Russia Dmitry Peskov, October 22 2016, in an interview with the program "News on Saturday", made a very intriguing statement about the goals of the beginning of the mission of the aircraft carrier strike group of the Federation Council of the Russian Navy in the Eastern Mediterranean. As a priority, Peskov did not specify either the containment of coalition forces for the defense of the Russian-Syrian military infrastructure, nor the additional carrier-based strike aircraft, which, with every new square kilometer occupied by the government forces of Syria and the Russian contingent, “drives another stick into the wheel” of domination West in the Middle East. D. Peskov was brief, and brought everything under the neck of secrecy, specifying that the current land and sea percussion and defensive means were already enough there.

The real purpose of the campaign of "Admiral Kuznetsov", "Peter the Great" and escort ships refers to something that Dmitry Sergeevich Peskov denied in his statement. The situation around the offensive operation in Aleppo, which resumed from air strikes on Saturday 22 October, as well as around the liberated Palmyra, could be heated at any moment, and therefore the support of carrier-based aviation of the Russian Federation may be required immediately. What kind of exacerbation in question?

It is well known that the Iraqi Army, with the support of the massive US air force missile and air strikes, as well as the US Navy missile strikes, allegedly plan to oust about 9 thousands of IS militants from the captured city of Mosul. They are supported by the Kurdish Peshmerga civil defense units, who have experienced combat operations together with US Marines and Green Berets since the beginning and middle of the 2000's. And the most interesting is that all the details of the beginning assault operation are clearly stipulated with the command structures of ISIS. The offensive operation began on October 20 2016 of the year with a cursory artillery preparation in several locations around Mosul, but its development is very slow. This can be explained by the complexity of the territory being vacated, as well as by the 900 population of 1,000, plus the left-bank and right-bank locations of parts of the city along the banks of the Tigris River. But there is one more point.

A Russian military-diplomatic source in Moscow, 8 days before the first phase of the operation (October 12), reported on an agreement between the American and Arabian special services with the IG command to provide the first kind of "green corridor" for those who want to leave Mosul before the assault. Roughly speaking, part of the Daesh thugs, who need temporary rest or treatment, can go to the “resorts” in Saudi Arabia, Qatar or the UAE. Where does the rest go? Naturally, straight to the line of contact near Aleppo to deter the Syrian government forces, or, still worse, to try to attack the liberated Palmyra. For these tasks, Washington and Riyadh have planned at least 5000 IS militants, ostensibly ousted from Iraqi Mosul. And those losses that will follow in the course of an offensive operation on the above cities, the West and the Saudis can compensate for a long time with the help of the transfer of militants who temporarily left the IG enclave through the "green corridor". For your information, missile strikes by the US Air Force in Mosul will undergo strictly defined structures and empty strongholds to reduce casualties among militants, all clearly laid out on the shelves.

As cunning individuals such as Kirby and the IG, and “moderate opposition” and other little-known paramilitary groups in the SAR will receive hundreds of units of modern man-portable air defense systems, anti-tank missile systems, various artillery systems (including the RSZO) and electronic warfare. equipment for the conduct of modern network-centric warfare. The terrorists have been receiving all these gifts from the States for a long time, and after transferring additional forces from Mosul to the SAR they will start receiving more in large volumes.


MiG-29CUB


This may for some time slow down the actions of the Syrian army both in Aleppo and behind Palmyra. To continue the liberation, it may be necessary to attract additional forces, which will be the deck aircraft deployed aboard our heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov. For shock operations there will be responsible MiG-29K / KUB carrier-based multi-role fighters, as well as several Ka-52K Katran attack helicopters, which are part of the 279-th separate naval fighter air regiment (OKIAP). Katrans, as the most advanced helicopter attack aircraft, will be able with surgical precision to suppress any militant activity on the hottest sections of the front at ranges up to 10 km using the Vikhr or Attack ATGMs. The pilots of the “Twenty-ninths” will be engaged in routine tasks, the basis of which will be the destruction of the IG infrastructure with the help of adjustable ammunition and tactical missiles of short and medium range type X-29L / T. But what will happen when the Armed Forces of the Syrian Arab Republic, together with the Russian Aerospace Forces, suppress most of the resources prepared by the US and the Saudis?

It is then that one can expect a possible direct confrontation between the Russian Navy and the Russian Space Forces with the forces of the Western coalition. By this time, the unique combat resources of the Russian AUG that approached the SAR can urgently be needed.

Information sources:
https://dni.ru/society/2016/10/15/350897.html
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1540938.html
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  1. Wolka
    Wolka 24 October 2016 06: 57
    +9
    but not a word about the accompanying AUG "varshavyanochki" who blocked the English Channel from above and below, plus a cow nearby
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 24 October 2016 07: 32
      +16
      What kind of panic is there? Gathered out of curiosity to look at the Russian ship-aircraft carrier. He will ruin the whole ecology in the Mediterranean Sea with his exhaust!
      1. Rozmyssel
        Rozmyssel 24 October 2016 08: 15
        +7
        in general. that our only aircraft carrier, so he learned smoke only now, before did not even know about it. You can certainly inflate with arrogance. That’s what kind of weapon they say, but so smoke the sky is from the region of 19-20 centuries The blue ribbon of the Atlantic. In short, the impression of this campaign is already spoiled.
        It is necessary to put our aircraft carrier on an atomic course - this will be in the spirit of the 21st century.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 24 October 2016 08: 27
          +11
          It's cheaper to build a new one. The Chinese are building a shock type of 001A. A year ago, the first photos - now the whole building + superstructure and descent soon. .

          Give them a reactor, in exchange for Tip002 theirs. And they boost - with the reactor they have Tip003 in 24 only, and here the aircraft carrier is normal.

          About the smoke. This is a feature of the power plant. Especially old boilers and backlashes for air-fuel mixture. A fat hat can be fed artificially. At constant speed - the greater the load (in other words, the necessary energy consumption - in this case, speed) - the more smoke.

          For example, the only active non-nuclear aircraft carrier in the world with an ejection launch Foch / Sao Paulo goes under its own power - it smokes like Kuzya.
          1. Rozmyssel
            Rozmyssel 24 October 2016 09: 39
            +4
            Quote: donavi49
            It's cheaper to build a new one.


            it will not work, no one will give money, and conversations will remain conversations. Therefore, it is necessary to modernize, that is, to attach the atomic engine, to embed another 30 meters of the runway, and it’s scary to watch our falcons land on this deck, well, put newfangled ship bells and whistles, steering columns back and steering propellers ahead weapons and the old man Kuznetsov still runs and ruin the life of the adversary.
            As for small Britain, Kuznetsov should cut a couple of circles around the island, so they will have nothing to breathe, and there will be a complete scribe to the Englishwoman. laughing
            1. ancient
              ancient 24 October 2016 11: 27
              +4
              Quote: Thought
              will fail, no one will give money


              And from whom and when SOMEONE. "Asked" lol lolDvorkovich came out with .. "initiative" for military pensioners to reduce their pension by 3 times ... because .. "they already have enough" wassat wassat, but you can ... "save" 7,1 billion rubles fellow fellow
              1. Rozmyssel
                Rozmyssel 24 October 2016 13: 18
                +3
                Quote: ancient
                Vorkovich came out with .. "initiative"


                for money there is always someone to tell every Jew, but now there is no one to stand up for the Russian people.
                1. ancient
                  ancient 24 October 2016 14: 18
                  +1
                  Quote: Thought
                  Quote: ancient
                  Vorkovich came out with .. "initiative"


                  for money there is always someone to tell every Jew, but now there is no one to stand up for the Russian people.


                  However, it is fraught with ... such "intercession" wassat
                  It's like having the green on your forehead 282 ... " lol"draw"

                  And by the way, from today's media - "strategic research and forecasts at the RUDN University checked more than 50 higher educational institutions of the country for the loyalty of students and teachers to the authorities."

                  So ... "cut Shura ... they are ..." golden " wassat
                  1. xtur
                    xtur 24 October 2016 14: 34
                    +1
                    > And by the way, from today's media - "strategic research and forecasts at the RUDN University checked more than 50 higher educational institutions of the country for the loyalty of students and teachers to the authorities."

                    you're kind of a competent and experienced person - but I get the feeling that you carefully try to hide it.

                    The discrepancy between the formation and tasks of the state once in the 19th century already raised a wave of terror in Russia, which ended in a civil war. In no case should the state allow such a gap, regardless of how correctly it performs the tasks necessary for society.
                    Moreover, the destruction of the USSR was caused in many respects by the very same problem - in the educational institutions the Mensheviks received posts, and what was taught in the USSR under the name of Marxism contained two courses — the course of Bolshevism and the course of Menshevism.

                    And therefore, the Soviet leaders and officials were completely Mensheviks according to their convictions — this is simpler. As a result, the entire governing layer turned out to be with thinking that is completely unsuitable for managing a complex modern society - it doesn’t matter socialist or market.
        2. Fotoceva62
          Fotoceva62 24 October 2016 09: 45
          +28
          As for "smoking," it's called "giving a hat." It is not the best way to judge the state of the power plant by the materials of the "yellow" press. A ship with variable running modes always smokes, so what? The state of the power plant of our aircraft carrier is hardly as sad as it is presented, but the fact that it leaves much to be desired is not in doubt either. I am familiar with our ship repair not by hearsay, he himself shed a lot of tears and spent an awl, BUT I would not make such far-reaching conclusions about combat readiness. It is surprising that our Fleet generally survived the 90s and early 2000s, a time when paint and available spare parts were bought for the crew's money, the fuel in the supply tanks was barely for a couple of hours of diesel generator operation, and when the coastal power was turned off, the iron stood dark and cold. Pay less attention to the barking of British and home-grown mongrels, ... WORK BROTHERS! .. "The ship is ready to perform its own tasks", no one will send a completely killed ship to war. People serve on ships, and as the poet said: nails would be made of these people, there would be no stronger nails in the world! and that's it.
          1. jjj
            jjj 24 October 2016 12: 03
            +1
            It should also be noted that this was the parade of the Russian Navy on the anniversary of the Battle of Trafalgar significant for Britain (October 21)
          2. Sasha_Sar
            Sasha_Sar 24 October 2016 12: 18
            +2
            I agree. Etc. 300 Commander of the Federation Council still probably no one has canceled ?! An exit to the sea is possible with 75% serviceability.
        3. ancient
          ancient 24 October 2016 12: 09
          +7
          Quote: Thought
          in general. that our only aircraft carrier, so he learned smoke only now, before did not even know about it.


          In any "business" you need to look for "BENEFIT" wink
          Can you imagine what training the flight crew will have winkALL landings .. only with M / M weather (even though it is, at least at night) ... and this is a confirmation of the class qualifications ... and there is no need to "grab a difficult thing" with a flight somewhere good
          "Landscaping" about .. SO ... only dream wassat
      2. dmi.pris1
        dmi.pris1 24 October 2016 12: 43
        0
        So where is the ubiquitous Greenpeace? Is a hamster skin expensive these days?
      3. Evgeniy-111
        Evgeniy-111 24 October 2016 12: 44
        0
        On the site "Made By Us" there is a comment about smoke (I will give the link, look). It turns out that this is one of the ways to send signals, since the ancient steamship ...
        http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/85195/
      4. iouris
        iouris 24 October 2016 14: 48
        +1
        The Aircraft Carrier is a floating airfield. The main thing is that he can get to point B. And there is no money to eliminate the smoke. If victory is achieved in Syria, then the smoke will also seem pleasant to us. However, the prolonged presence of such a combat unit in the Mediterranean during a threatening period is a very unpleasant factor for NATO.
      5. Rus2012
        Rus2012 24 October 2016 20: 24
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        He, with his exhaust, will destroy the whole ecology in the Mediterranean!

        ... do not blaspheme please.

        You can rejoice at this miracle of yours -

        In the photo - the head ship USS Freedom ("Freedom"), the newest and most perfect ship of the American Navy, smokes in the San Diego raid 19 February 2016 year. They say that the farts of Americans are burning with shame for the United States.
    2. Rozmyssel
      Rozmyssel 24 October 2016 13: 16
      +2


      Nnda guys, the farther the more terrible, now it becomes clear the phrase-smoke the enemy.
      1. Tektor
        Tektor 24 October 2016 22: 20
        +1
        Smokes due to incomplete combustion of fuel. Perhaps the oxygen supply is poorly regulated, which is not enough or does not have enough time to react due to the overloaded oxidation-combustion regime. This incomplete combustion is still deposited by soot on the steam generating surfaces, reducing the heat transfer efficiency and leading to the need for preventive cleaning periodically after cooling the furnaces.
        1. Rozmyssel
          Rozmyssel 25 October 2016 06: 58
          +1
          Quote: Tektor
          Possibly poorly regulated oxygen supply,


          air
        2. Alex_59
          Alex_59 26 October 2016 14: 29
          0
          Quote: Tektor
          Smokes due to incomplete combustion of fuel. AT

          The only adequate comment about smoke. Not an optimal oxygen / fuel mixture. Often this happens with a sharp acceleration or braking, that of diesels, that of a gas turbine engine. A little less is true for gasoline engines, there is generally less smoke.
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  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 24 October 2016 07: 06
    +1
    It was then that we should expect a possible direct confrontation between the Russian Navy and the Russian Aerospace Forces with the forces of the Western coalition

    Of course I really do not want this. But given the psychosis that took possession of the hollow heads of Anglo-Saxon politicians and generals, you immediately remember - "If you want peace, get ready for war."
    1. bocsman
      bocsman 24 October 2016 07: 57
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      It was then that we should expect a possible direct confrontation between the Russian Navy and the Russian Aerospace Forces with the forces of the Western coalition

      Of course I really do not want this. But given the psychosis that took possession of the hollow heads of Anglo-Saxon politicians and generals, you immediately remember - "If you want peace, get ready for war."

      Therefore, they pull the crazy-headed grandmother by the ears of the president. Apparently Yusov’s generals seriously believed in the Hollywood linden about their invincibility! It is a pity that they will not have to pay for this error personally!
      1. Akuzenka
        Akuzenka 24 October 2016 13: 24
        +1
        Who cares who works there as a prezik. This does not change their policy. I really like .. anyway who will take the "helm" there.
  3. cedar
    cedar 24 October 2016 07: 40
    +4
    Behind the "smoke" verbal curtain of the Western media, which they accompany the campaign of our squadron, there is something that the trap does not want to admit even to itself. This "smoky" veil, I think, was dispelled in his interview to Spiegel by Putin's personal adviser Sergei Karaganov. It makes sense to read, think and look at the Russian squadron entering Mediterranean from a different angle.

    "... SPIEGEL: Europeans now do not trust Russia, do not understand its policy, considering it strange. The goals of your leadership in Moscow are incomprehensible to us.

    Karaganov: You must understand - we now trust you at exactly 0 percent. After all the recent disappointments, this is natural. Proceed from this. We do something what can be called a tactical warning. The goal is for you to realize that we are smarter, stronger and more determined than you think .... "
    http://путин.ru-an.info/новости/очень-интересное-
    and-hard-interview-sergei-karaganov-german-ju
    rnalu-spiegel /
    See the root.
  4. sub307
    sub307 24 October 2016 07: 43
    +10
    And I, all the same, once again to the "joy" of the author (from the hurray-patriots "you see)" I will "post" over the "clouds of smoke" ..., well, straight "battleship Potemnin" .... handsome. The boiler and turbine installation is, of course, understandable ... as well as the fact that it regularly “breathes in frankincense.” Probably due to its highest “technical readiness” (Korean engineer-me-ham, the term should be “clear pepper”) “Kuzya "A significant (very!) part of his career" chilled out "in the 35th plant, and very" pleasing to the eye "of those passing along the Kola Zaliyya, in one direction or another", with its spectacular appearance ... you will just admire it. I can imagine how much "blood" cost Tech, KSF uprah and all other Ing. - to the mechanics to prepare "Kuzya" for the "mission" .... But now it took place ... at last "Kuzya" in the sea, and even with a real combat mission. It remains to wish you a happy voyage and, with a heroic victory, will return to the shores of the dear ones.
    PS I take off my hats to the "oil-bags" ... well, and other "suites" - GOOD LUCK !!!
    1. jjj
      jjj 24 October 2016 12: 09
      +3
      And the destroyers, etc. 956 make the smoke exhaust no worse
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 24 October 2016 12: 31
        +4
        Here are the results of passage 956 under the bridge:
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    1. ancient
      ancient 24 October 2016 09: 17
      +11
      Quote from rudolf
      "One missile, for example, can rise to an altitude of about 500 m and patrol 70-50 km from the target, transmitting tactical information (received by the active RGSN) to other low-flying missiles of the link. The rest will continue to fly to the target, rounding the terrain and simultaneously reaching tactically convenient target exit angles. "
      Lord, why should these articles for militant housewives be published on VO? Well, complete nonsense!
      "General panic in Britain ..." If only in the head of the author. And in Britain, it is rather "general ignorance" and "general pofig" who scares seagulls with smoke in the English Channel. And they do not call the English Channel.


      Hello FRIEND! Already REQUIRED I have addressed the "owners" of the SITE -... stop looking for such articles and such authors ... or then do not call yourself "MILITARY REVIEW", but somehow ...... well, like ... "NOODLES from the MORNING " wassat
      You still read the opum of this ... "aFFFtora" on "Beefiers" and their .. "overcoming Aegis air defense on supersonic" ........ I lay under the table for a day wassat wassat
      Well, the "extreme" paragraph .. "articles" ... this is generally ..... a white fur-bearing animal ... two conclusions - or "something smokes .. such zaborista" that such "galyuny" constantly or. ..... patient Kashchenko lol lol
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        1. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 24 October 2016 13: 48
          +2
          There is a book series "Military Science Fiction".
        2. xtur
          xtur 24 October 2016 14: 17
          +1
          > It is high time to rename the site "We will tear everyone", it has practically nothing to do with "Voennoy Obozreniye".

          I think you are too strict on the site. He has his own and very important niche - for those who are interested in military-technical news, not being a specialist - although having experience in the army and having success in civilian specialties.
          On specialized sites, the entry threshold is very high and difficult to reach for most interested, kmk. It’s just that the site’s management should have thought through a system of moral rewards for people with real experience - without their knowledge and point of view, the site would have slipped into perfect yellowness.
          And so I read Damantsev, then I read you and a picture develops that is already related to reality :-)

          In order for a resource to live, at least one original article per day is needed - and there are clearly not enough such articles
          1. ancient
            ancient 24 October 2016 14: 40
            +2
            Quote: xtur
            > And so I read Damantsev


            Well and .. in vain .... so believe in .. "bright future" lol
            Better to read or watch .. CLASSIC wink



            Sincerely, drinks drinks
            1. xtur
              xtur 24 October 2016 14: 49
              +1
              > Well i..in vain .... so believe in .. "bright future"

              in order to believe in a bright or not future, I use own brain and read many other books, articles and authors on other topics.
              А VO for me, hobby :-)

              > Better to read or watch..CLASSIKOV

              I do so :-)
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                1. xtur
                  xtur 26 October 2016 21: 14
                  +1
                  rudolff, professionals have one common disease, regardless of their field of activity - L. Gumilyov called this problem short-range aberration. It's like looking through a microscope - all the details are visible, but the scale of perception is violated.

                  The significance of the problems of the professional sphere is exaggerated at times. I am familiar with this from my past profession, which is quite to myself, potentially, very dangerous, and very responsible. I do not want to say that professionals do not correctly see the scale of the problems and their significance - they do not correlate them correctly with successes and problems in other areas.
                  This effect does not depend on the country or on the scope of activity.

                  I’m saying all this to the fact that military specialists take too close to their hearts the calm and positive, trusting attitude of the members of the forum towards the security sphere.
      2. Fulcrumxnumx
        24 October 2016 09: 44
        +5
        For your information, Aegis is not only air defense, but also an anti-aircraft missile defense system. But if you cannot encompass with your intellect the process of "breaking through" the air defense organized by the Aegis BIUS and the SM-2/3 air defense missile system by our Tu-22M3 missile carrier with new anti-ship missiles and REP complexes, then uv. "ancient", evolution has not touched you! hi
        1. ancient
          ancient 24 October 2016 11: 20
          +9
          Quote: Fulcrum29
          But if you cannot encompass with your intellect the process of "breaking through" the air defense organized by the Aegis BIUS and the SM-2/3 air defense missile system by our Tu-22M3 missile carrier with new anti-ship missiles and REP complexes, then uv. "ancient", evolution has not touched you!

          Quote: Fulcrum29
          But if you cannot encompass with your intellect the process of "breaking through" the air defense organized by the Aegis BIUS and the SM-2/3 air defense missile system by our Tu-22M3 missile carrier with new anti-ship missiles and REP complexes, then uv. "ancient", evolution has not touched you!

          For your information .. "dear" .... I "broke through", or rather "overcame the opposition of air defense forces and means" AUG and AUS both on the Tu-22K and on all Tu-22Ms (both on 2 and 3 yach) soldier
          Only in those days, the required outfits of forces and means were much, much "more"
          The REP complex is a RESEARCH AND PROTECTION COMPLEX which Tu-22M3 can only dream of ..... like Tu-22M3M with X-32 missiles soldier
          Do you have a bathroom in your home? wink Just dial some water .. start the plastic models of the AUG and ... "buzz" with the airplane models ... maybe something and .... "break through"
          And so ... for "information" bully - a typical route at high altitude, through a 2-training ground (Kherson and Kalinovka) 4-ofab-250-270 for a calculated 2 hours 30 minutes is 32 tons of fuel.
          A typical flight into the supersonic zone (Sumy region), the extreme point of 180 km (LUR) before acceleration to a speed of M> 1, .., braking at a distance of 100 km to ... AB, estimated flight time 1 hour 20 minutes ... refueling 36 (!! !!) tons bully

          So "keep" breaking through "..... just" urya "do not forget .... shout, yes .. throw up the boots wassat
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          2. padded jacket
            padded jacket 24 October 2016 13: 56
            0
            Quote: ancient
            For your information .. "dear" .... I "broke through", or rather "overcame the opposition of air defense forces and means" AUG and AUS both on the Tu-22K and on all Tu-22Ms (both on 2 and 3 yach)

            It looks like you are more "composing" sniper pilot, you are our
            1. ancient
              ancient 24 October 2016 14: 23
              +2
              Quote: quilted jacket
              Quote: ancient
              For your information .. "dear" .... I "broke through", or rather "overcame the opposition of air defense forces and means" AUG and AUS both on the Tu-22K and on all Tu-22Ms (both on 2 and 3 yach)

              It looks like you are more "composing" sniper pilot, you are our


              When .. "it looks like" .. is it or it is necessary to be baptized (they say it helps), well, at the expense of .. "composing" .. and how to argue .. "I will present yours"? wassat
              Not a sniper, but a first-class pilot. "Well, but at the expense of .." your "... you are very much to yourself ..." flatter " lol lol
              1. padded jacket
                padded jacket 24 October 2016 14: 50
                0
                Quote: ancient
                When .. "it looks like" .. is it or it is necessary to be baptized (they say it helps), well, at the expense of .. "composing" .. and how to argue .. "I will present yours"?

                Yes, because you or your clones have already been caught on "bases" more than once
                Quote: ancient
                well, about .. "your" ... you are very strong to yourself ... "flatter"

                Well, yes, here I said a little incorrectly what are you ours?
                I think if you "rub" a little, then under the guise of an ancient one will be found - Ben-Yitzchak lol
                1. ancient
                  ancient 24 October 2016 16: 19
                  +3
                  Quote: quilted jacket
                  Quote: ancient
                  When .. "it looks like" .. is it or it is necessary to be baptized (they say it helps), well, at the expense of .. "composing" .. and how to argue .. "I will present yours"?

                  Yes, because you or your clones have already been caught on "bases" more than once
                  Quote: ancient
                  well, about .. "your" ... you are very strong to yourself ... "flatter"

                  Well, yes, here I said a little incorrectly what are you ours?
                  I think if you "rub" a little, then under the guise of an ancient one will be found - Ben-Yitzchak lol

                  On "bases" this is in the sense when you and your Caudle "urya-patriots" ... "drove" face vs table? wassat
                  So "why" to be upset .. You are no stranger laughing

                  You better "yourself something" .. "rub", maybe ... for a "smart" .. get off wassat
                  You are our anti-Semite
                  1. padded jacket
                    padded jacket 24 October 2016 17: 26
                    0
                    Quote: ancient
                    On "bases" this is in the sense when you and your Caudle "urya-patriots" ... "drove" face vs table? wassat

                    No, when did you invent the "pilot" computer laughing
                    Quote: ancient
                    You better "yourself something" .. "rub"

                    Yes, although you do not need to "rub" our great pilot from WarBirds laughing
                2. ancient
                  ancient 24 October 2016 16: 40
                  +2
                  Quote: quilted jacket
                  have already caught on "bases" more than once


                  So what about what would .. "to argue" my .. "present" ????
                  I see ... trolo-lo it is in the "padded jacket" ... trolo-lo wassat wassat
              2. Navigator Basov
                Navigator Basov 30 October 2016 17: 31
                0
                Hijacker.
          3. ancient
            ancient 24 October 2016 14: 26
            +2
            Quote: ancient
            So "keep" breaking through "..... just" urya "do not forget .... shout, yes .. throw up the boots

            Moderators, dear .. why were the comments removed ... maybe the "breaker" ... "more THANKS ... wassat
      3. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 24 October 2016 23: 38
        +2
        Quote: ancient
        ancient

        Physical education-hello! Buddy drinks
        1000 winters.
        I also read the article and ...... just for shaving I was already scared.
        But I was pleased with one fact that in such a difficult year for our Motherland, our glorious government has gained so much fuel oil, but in return we will have to tighten our belts, because fuel oil is expensive laughing
    2. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 24 October 2016 12: 16
      +3
      Quote from rudolf
      whoever there in the English Channel scares gulls with smoke.

      Are you already retired that bummer, okay ancient, is everything clear with it?
      Kuznetsov’s is not smoke but black matter.
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        1. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 24 October 2016 17: 11
          +2
          Quote from rudolf
          Okay, let there be black matter ...

          Ukrainians really have fun on this subject

          Instead of fuel oil, it was necessary to refuel with alcohol and the crew would not smoke well.
          Su-33s look really good.
      2. padded jacket
        padded jacket 24 October 2016 13: 46
        +1
        Quote: saturn.mmm
        okay ancient

        Do you really think that the ancient is so ancient and long since retired as he wrote and talks about himself?
        Very much doubtful.
        1. ancient
          ancient 24 October 2016 14: 47
          +1
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Very much doubtful.


          I repeat ... I must be baptized!
          Well, up to you (with your gop-company) .. I still "get". Here "Kuznetsov" will come to a given area ... here and look at ... "a demonstration of the combat capabilities .." Ka-52K "... I hope that by this time the NV blades will be weighed on it." true with .. "suitcase" then .. what to do wink

          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 24 October 2016 15: 03
            0
            Quote: ancient
            I repeat ... I must be baptized!

            What talk already started? it happens lol
            Quote: ancient
            Well, up to you (with your gop-company) .. I still "get".

            At first, before you reach anyone, try to tear yourself away from the keyboard and the chair lol
            Quote: ancient
            I hope that by this time the blades of the HB .. will hang on it ".. that's the truth with .. a" suitcase "then .. what to do

            Are you trying to build yourself a great specialist again? Do not strain so anyway you will not succeed.
            1. ancient
              ancient 24 October 2016 16: 42
              +2
              Quote: quilted jacket
              Are you trying to build yourself a great specialist again? Do not strain so anyway you will not succeed.


              I just love her soak in ..... all kinds of "quilted jackets" ... I get just frantic pleasure fellow fellow
      3. xtur
        xtur 24 October 2016 14: 40
        +2
        > Are you already retired that grumble, okay ancient, with him everything is clear?

        no need to run into literate people, there are not so many of them on the site :-)
        1. ydjin
          ydjin 25 October 2016 15: 04
          +1
          That srach lit, even though the saints bear, too damn hot Finnish guys! If such a cut has gone, then already in PM communicate! As children !
    3. Alex_59
      Alex_59 26 October 2016 14: 54
      +1
      Quote from rudolf
      One missile, for example, can rise to a height of about 500 m and barrage at 70 — 50 km from the target, transmitting tactical information (received by the active WGG) to other low-flying missiles of the link. The rest will continue flying towards the target with enveloping the terrain and simultaneously reaching tactically convenient angles of reaching the target.

      A million pluses! I also laughed when I read it. And most of all, it was not even the lack of knowledge in physics and technology that amused me, but the fact that the information must be "tactical" - it sounds more solid.
  6. Engineer
    Engineer 24 October 2016 08: 33
    +4
    According to the actions of the Royal Navy, it is noticeable what panic they have. I don’t understand why to attract by the ears what is not?
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 24 October 2016 08: 52
      +4
      Quote: Engineer
      According to the actions of the Royal Navy, it is noticeable what panic they have. I don’t understand why to attract by the ears what is not?

      So it's nice to read about it. winked
      1. ancient
        ancient 24 October 2016 11: 29
        +2
        Quote: Aaron Zawi
        Quote: Engineer
        According to the actions of the Royal Navy, it is noticeable what panic they have. I don’t understand why to attract by the ears what is not?

        So it's nice to read about it. winked


        It's like ... "urya" .. saw familiar letters ... that's why ... "nice" wassat wassat
      2. padded jacket
        padded jacket 24 October 2016 13: 52
        0
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        So it's nice to read about it

        Oh, there were great Israeli Jews, representatives of a powerful sea power, you can say the lords of the seas and oceans lol whose fleet consists of boats and corvettes. And even then, Israeli Jews themselves cannot build corvettes in view of the backwardness of their industry.
  7. BAI
    BAI 24 October 2016 09: 38
    0
    In the old days, when the Kuzya went out to sea, the entire SF (almost all of them) was tied down, other ships had no fuel left.
  8. Gloomy
    Gloomy 24 October 2016 09: 48
    0
    Thanks to the author, explained muddy.
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 24 October 2016 10: 46
    0
    Why did the long march of the Russian AUG to the Mediterranean cause a general panic in Britain?


    Answer: yes, because they are AFRAID of us, and this is correct both in essence and in life! angry
    1. Gloomy
      Gloomy 24 October 2016 10: 51
      0
      What is right about this? It would be more correct if at least everyone in Europe lived in peace and fought together against terrorists. And then some breed terrorism, while others liquidate it
  10. Filing
    Filing 24 October 2016 10: 59
    +1
    Yesterday I watched a series about Niro Wolfe on our Ukrainian channel. The statement of the English aristocrat about us Slavs, thieves and murderers, crashed. And this is inspired by the European public through the media.
  11. Vadya718
    Vadya718 24 October 2016 11: 24
    +1
    Quote from rudolf
    Hello ancient friend! Yes, there are most of these articles. It is high time to rename the site to some kind of "Courage", Our Victory, "We will tear everyone apart" or "Visiting a fairy tale", it has practically nothing to do with "Military Review".


    I agree in you
  12. lis-ik
    lis-ik 24 October 2016 12: 06
    0
    And I found another option for complacency, but over "Peter" not a haze, not a couple, divide by two, it turns out "Kuznetsov" does not really smoke.
  13. kig
    kig 24 October 2016 12: 49
    +4
    About smoke: any ship's mechanic will tell you that exhaust smoke is a characteristic of the quality of fuel combustion. The above example with USS Freedom is not typical, since
    the ship leaves the port and is in the so-called maneuver mode, when the load on the engines changes quickly and in a wide range. And our Kuznetsov seems to smoke all the way, and this suggests that the combustion process still can not be adjusted, and this, in turn, can talk about serious problems with the power plant. In any case, this is not gut.
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 24 October 2016 13: 40
      +1
      Actually, as in any engine, an over-enriched mixture causes black smoke, it shouldn’t smoke like that! I also agree about the likely changes in engine loads, but again, the exhaust is also short-lived.
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  15. Titsen
    Titsen 24 October 2016 16: 06
    0
    Quote: Thought
    It is necessary to put our aircraft carrier on an atomic course - this will be in the spirit of the 21st century.


    Who will put him in prison? He is a monument!

    In more detail, express your thought about delivering!
  16. Mushroom
    Mushroom 24 October 2016 17: 03
    +3
    And who said that the British panicked? -If there was a panic, it was only about a column of smoke from the horizon, did France burn or where did the volcano wake up? Well, the ship passed well and there was constant advice and there was no panic and on a more impressive scale, on both sides, fighting was just going on, and here ... clowning and circus again and our boobies believe about screeching and heart-rending screams of supposedly frightened Britons, rumors will soon come that the British, having seen pillars of smoke in the sea, went massively drowning. ... Hochma ...
  17. red_october
    red_october 26 October 2016 09: 51
    0
    Quote: Volka
    but not a word about the accompanying AUG "varshavyanochki" who blocked the English Channel from above and below, plus a cow nearby


    There are no "Warsaw women" there. No.
    And "Anteev" 949 ave. Is not there either.
    You are confusing something. )))
  18. Irbenwolf
    Irbenwolf 26 October 2016 12: 21
    0
    Hmm ... The view of a huge modern ship smacking like the stove of Ivanushka the Fool can not but push into a clownish fashion, BUT ...

    When cheap precision rockets arrive from this "stove" to your "home" - it’s ridiculous.

    On the other hand, why not try to make a "take-off pad" on an ordinary tanker (the speed of movement is probably comparable), and add the control functions to a more protected ship ...

    Teenage is fun!
  19. Eustace
    Eustace 27 October 2016 08: 57
    0
    it turns out that the aircraft carrier "Kuznetsov" smoked black for a reason.
    sailors explain the reason for the black smoke - the "caps" of the ship as follows:
    The black smoke ("Caps") emanating from the chimney of a warship has a much simpler explanation, which has nothing to do with the poor technical state of the ship's power plant.
    In the navy, the ship gives a "hat" only when he wants it himself. (!)
    This is such a naval tradition.
    This is achieved by deliberately supplying fuel to the combustion chamber through the nozzles under less than required pressure, so that it does not burn everything and so that the pipe gives a "cap" of black smoke.
    This signal, as it were, says to everyone: "I have come, hello", "I am leaving, goodbye", or "I am coming!" (I'm going to you!))
    In the first two cases, the "caps" are given from the pipe short: a cloud crawled out and floated over the harbor, port, base and city.
    In the case of "I AM COMING!" not just a "cap" is given, but a long plume of black smoke emanating from the chimney all the time the ship passes through the territory "welcomed" by it.
    The semantic implications of all these "caps" and loops are different: from friendly, giving a signal of hope - for their own; before warning or threatening - for strangers.
    So think about why the Russian flagship went through the English Channel under the "hat".
    Maybe - welcomed the British, but maybe quite the opposite.