The current state of the air defense of the countries of the former Soviet Union republics. Part 10

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Russian Federation. Anti-aircraft missile and radio troops



Unlike the United States and the European countries of NATO, a significant number of medium-range and long-range anti-aircraft systems are on combat duty in our country. But compared with Soviet times, their number has been reduced several times. ZRV was assigned the task of ensuring the repulsion of an air attack. The main regular units of these troops were separate divisions, which were reduced to regiments and brigades. Moreover, brigades of mixed composition began to be created in 1960's, they included both divisions armed with medium-range or long-range complexes (C-75 or C-200) and divisions of low-altitude complexes (C-125). The C-200, C-75 and C-125 complexes complemented each other, making it significantly more difficult for the enemy to carry out reconnaissance and electronic warfare, and overlapped the "dead zones".

In the USSR, the ZRK was defended by practically all major industrial and administrative-political cities, as well as nuclear and hydroelectric power stations, transportation hubs, ports and airfields, large military facilities, permanent locations of troops, etc. Positions of the air defense system unfolded both in the extreme south and in the extreme north of our immense country. The level of combat readiness and professional training in the anti-aircraft missile forces, as a rule, was very high. At least once in 2, the calculations took part in real training and control shooting at the range. At the same time, if it was possible to shoot back at a rating lower than “good,” tough conclusions followed, both with regard to the direct command of the anti-aircraft missile division, and with regard to the higher management.

The most northern anti-aircraft missile units in the USSR were: in the European part of the 406-th SRP from the composition of the 4-th ADAP in Novaya Zemlya, and in the Far East 762-th SRP from the composition of the 25-th PDPO Coal Mines, in Chukotka. Both regiments were armed with the most massive S-75 air defense system in the USSR Air Defense Forces. If the withdrawal of the 762 XRUM technology and hoisting began as early as the end of 80, then the conserved positions with launchers on Novaya Zemlya could be observed as early as 2005.

By 1995, most of the C-75 and C-125 SAMs were decommissioned, and the number of long-range C-200s declined. All this was justified by the fact that these complexes were supposedly hopelessly outdated and replaced with the C-300P. The scale of the destruction of the anti-aircraft missile cover system only for the period from 1992 to 1999 year looks like this: the composition of the ZRV decreased by 3 times in 5,8 times, in terms of the number of personnel in 6,8 times.

If we can partly agree with the obsolescence of the C-75, although the few new C-75М4 with the extended range 5YA23, equipped with a television-optical viewfinder with a “Dubler” equipment with remote simulators of the CHP, could still at least XNMX to protect the sky in minor directions or to complement more modern systems, the hasty rejection of C-10 and C-125 was completely unjustified. The following circumstances were not taken into account when writing off “hundred twelve”: The C-200P was designed to replace the stationary C-300 and single-channel C-25, the three-hundred-rocket is significantly heavier and more expensive, the full replacement of the C-75 and C-125PS is too much wasteful. The experience of combat operations in Iraq and Yugoslavia showed that increasing the density of anti-aircraft defense is required, if purchases of C-300Ps stopped, and C-300 is removed from service, then the saturation of anti-aircraft defense systems has dropped, according to the logic of C-125P, the most important objects, and C-300 secondary or cover positions C-125П. As subsequent events showed, the latest modifications of the C-300 had a huge modernization potential. For export deliveries in our country, a modernized version has been created on the Pechera-125M C-125 mobile chassis with combat effectiveness increased several times.

The current state of the air defense of the countries of the former Soviet Union republics. Part 10


As for the S-200 SAM, the following shortcomings were blamed on him: the bulkiness, the difficulty of relocating and equipping firing positions, which made this complex virtually stationary and the need to refuel SAM with fuel and oxidizer. But at the same time, the “two hundred” had significant advantages: a long launch range of 240 km for the S-200V and 300 km for the S-200D, and the ability to work on production aircraft of active noise interference. Thanks to the use of anti-aircraft missiles with a semi-active seeker as part of the S-200 anti-aircraft missile system, the radio interference previously used to blind the S-75 and S-125 became ineffective against it. After adopting the S-200 air defense system aviation The United States and NATO have become more respectful of the inviolability of the air borders of the USSR. Often, taking on a radar tracking target illumination (ROC) of an approaching Orion or CR-135 was enough for a potential intruder to rush hastily.

For comparison: the C-300PS range, which until recently formed the basis of the ZRV, is 90 km, only in 2000-s for relatively few C-300PM the missiles with the launch range 200 km began to arrive. So far, the C-400 SAMs use the 48H6М and 48Н6ДМ SAMs, originally created for the C-300М.


PU ZRS S-300PT


It is worth recalling that originally the C-300PT with the radio command solid-fuel missile 5В55К, put into service in the 1978 year, was intended to replace the single-channel SAM C-75. In the C-300PT ZRS, launchers with four anti-aircraft missiles in transport-launch containers (TPK) were placed on trailers towed by tractors. The affected area of ​​the first C-300PT variant was 5 — 47 km, which was even smaller than the C-75М3 SAMs with the 5Я23 SAMs. Subsequently, new 5ВХNUMXР type missiles with an increased launch range and semi-active seeker were introduced into the anti-aircraft missile system. In 55, a new version of the anti-aircraft system - C-1983PS. Its main difference was the placement of launchers on MAZ-300 self-propelled chassis. Due to this, it was possible to achieve a record short deployment time - 543 minutes.

It was C-300PS that for many years became the basis of anti-missile forces. The S-300PS missiles have become the most widespread in the C-300P family, their production in the 80s has been carried out at an accelerated pace. C-300PS and even more advanced C-300PM with high noise immunity and improved combat performance should have replaced the first-generation C-1 complexes in the 1: 75 ratio. This would allow the USSR’s most powerful air defense system in the world to reach a qualitatively new level. Unfortunately, these plans were not destined to be realized.

C-300PM tests ended in 1989, and the collapse of the USSR had a negative impact on the production of this anti-aircraft system. Thanks to the introduction of the 48H6 rocket and the increase in power of the multi-function radar, the target destruction range increased to 150 km. Officially, the C-300PM was adopted in 1993, the supply of this complex to the Russian armed forces continued until the middle of the 90-s. After 1996, the air defense systems of the C-300P family were built only for export. Part of the C-300PS has undergone a refurbishment, which allowed them to extend their service life, and the C-300PM were upgraded to the C-300ММ1 / ПМ2 level. For these modifications, new missiles with a launch range of up to 250 km have been adopted.

From 1994 to 2007, despite loud statements about the "revival" of the army, our air defense forces did not receive a single long-range anti-aircraft system. Moreover, due to the limiting wear and lack of standardized missiles, they were written off or transferred to the C-300PT and C-300PS storage bases built in the 80s. For this reason, many strategic facilities remained without anti-aircraft cover. Such as nuclear and hydroelectric power stations, airfield bases of strategic bombers and objects of the Strategic Missile Forces. “Holes” between air defense facilities beyond the Urals are several thousand kilometers, and anyone and anything can fly into them. However, not only in Siberia and the Far East, but throughout the whole country, a huge number of critically important objects of industry and infrastructure are not covered by any means of air defense. Modeling based on the results of real ground firing under the conditions of complicated jamming conditions showed that our long-range anti-aircraft systems, while protecting concealed objects, are capable of intercepting 70-80% of air attack weapons. It should be borne in mind that beyond the Urals we have significant gaps in the air defense system, especially from the north.

New widely advertised anti-aircraft missile system C-400 by and large is just beginning to massively come into service. The rate of C-400 supplies to the troops is not bad, but for the time being it is only about replacing the C-300PS to be written off. As of September 2016, the 14 srp had 29 srn in the RF AUC of the Russian Federation. All in all, according to data taken from "open sources" in videoconferencing, there is an 38 srp, including 105 srn. At the same time, some units are in the process of re-equipment or reorganization and are not combat ready. During the period of “Serdyukovschiny”, an increase in anti-aircraft missile regiments occurred in the united air force and air defense system due to the transfer of several brigades armed with C-300В and Buk air defense systems and air defense missile systems and integration with EKR from ground forces. The withdrawal of long-range and medium-range anti-aircraft systems significantly worsened the capabilities of the air defense of the SV.

The long-range troop anti-aircraft system C-300В and its subsequent modifications are mainly designed to protect troop concentrations and headquarters from tactical and tactical missiles. The C-300В SRS mounted on a tracked chassis significantly surpasses the C-300P of all modifications in cross-country terrain, but in the fight against air attack means it is inferior in fire performance and reload rate of the ammunition.


ZRS C-300B


Among the townsfolk, the ZRS X-NUMXP and C-300 are considered to be “super-weapons” capable of equally successful struggle with both aerodynamic and ballistic targets. And the number of anti-aircraft complexes available in the Russian Aerospace Forces abound enough to “in case of anything” beat all enemy airplanes and missiles. It has also been heard that they do not cause anything but a grin of assertion that in the “granaries of the motherland” there is a huge amount of “hidden” or “sleeping” anti-aircraft complexes hidden under the ground or in the deaf, distant taiga corners. And despite the fact that for the issuance of target designation to any anti-aircraft complexes, radar reconnaissance of the air situation and communication centers are needed. As well as residential townships with the appropriate infrastructure for the accommodation of military personnel and their families, unless of course the officers who serve on these “hidden” anti-aircraft systems are not monks and do not live in dugouts and caves, getting their food by hunting and gathering. The conscript servicemen, on the basis of conspiracy theories of supporters of “underground” air defense missile systems, cannot be there, since they will “declassify” the places of deployment after retirement, and they are unlikely to agree to live in caves for a long time. But seriously, I think that most readers need not be reminded that modern reconnaissance spacecraft are capable of conducting electronic reconnaissance and taking high-resolution pictures. The positions of all medium-range and long-range anti-aircraft systems are well-known and are rapidly exposed in peacetime, even in commercial satellite imagery. Naturally, after the onset of the “special period”, the anti-aircraft systems are relocated to reserve positions as soon as possible. At the same time, special technical and organizational measures are carried out, but this is a completely different one. story and the story is beyond the scope of this publication.


Satellite image of Google Earth: C-300PS position near the village of Verkhnyaya Ekon near Komsomolsk-on-Amur

Well, the anti-aircraft systems in the middle of the deaf taiga themselves are not needed by anyone, only in the Soviet Union could they afford to build positions of the air defense missile system on the path of the supposed flight of enemy aircraft, although even then most of the anti-aircraft complexes protected specific objects. But unlike the USSR, our air defense has a pronounced focal character. And the best covered city of Moscow and the Moscow region.



The C-300P and C-400 SAMs are often associated only with launchers, from which effective missiles are launched at the test site. In fact, the system includes about two dozen multi-ton machines for various purposes: command and control stations, radar detection and guidance, launchers, antenna posts, transport-loading machines and mobile diesel generators. In addition to the undeniable merits of C-300P and C-400, they also have weak points. The main drawback, which will inevitably manifest itself in the case of participation in repelling massive air raids of enemy air attack weapons, is a long reload time. With a high fire performance of ZRS-300P and C-400 in a real combat situation, a situation may arise when all the ammunition in the launchers will be used up. Even if there are spare missiles and transport-charging vehicles on the starting position, a lot of time is required to replenish the ammunition. Therefore, it is very important that the anti-aircraft systems mutually cover and complement each other, which is not always possible to implement in practice.



With the weight of the main launcher 5P85С ЗРС C-300ПС on the MAZ-543М chassis with four missiles of more than 42 tons and with a length of 13 and a width of 3,8 meter, its passability on weak soils and rough terrain is very limited. Most of the C-300PM launchers and almost all C-400 are made in the trailed version, which, of course, further reduces mobility.



About half of the troops in the air defense system are C-300PS whose age is approaching a critical one. Many of them can be considered effective only conditionally. It is common practice to carry combat duty in an abbreviated composition of military equipment. Most of the 5B55Р / 5В55РМ ЗРС С-300ПР ЗРМ is out of service life and their reserves are limited. This circumstance is confirmed by the fact that during the transfer of five C-300PS from the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to Kazakhstan, the entire 170-SAM was delivered to them.

Immediate remedial action is required. But the pace of admission to the C-400 troops does not yet allow replacing all the old equipment to be written off. In total, it is planned to acquire 2020 C-56 divisions before 400. We have to admit that building an air defense system based on C-400 is difficult to implement due to excessive cost. The statements of some of our high-ranking officials and the military, that the C-400 anti-aircraft system is three times more efficient than the C-300PM, therefore, it needs to be three times less cunning. However, at the same time they prefer to remain silent that the means of air attack of the likely "partners" also do not stand still. In addition, it is physically impossible to destroy a single anti-aircraft missile with a conventional warhead of more than one air target. Shooting at the landfills under the conditions of complicated jamming conditions has repeatedly demonstrated that the real probability of hitting a single missile with the C-300P ground-to-ground missile system is 0,7-0,8. To guarantee the defeat of a “difficult” target, you need to launch 2-3 SAM on it. Of course, the C-400 with the new missile surpasses any C-300P modification in range, altitude and noise immunity, but it is guaranteed to knock down one modern combat aircraft with one missile even with its own strength. In addition, no quality cancels the quantity, it is impossible to hit more air targets than there are anti-aircraft missiles ready for launch. In other words, if the ready-to-use ammunition is used up, then any, even the most modern and effective anti-aircraft system becomes nothing more than a pile of expensive metal and it is absolutely not important how many times it is more effective. The readers are also misled by publications where it is stated that the C-400 ground-to-ground missile system is capable of hitting targets at a distance of 400 km. There is no confirmation that the long-range missile 40H6E was adopted and goes into combat units. Beginning with the 2007 year, high-ranking military officials and officials in charge of the military-industrial complex annually declared that the new long-range missile defense system is ending tests and is about to be put into service, however, "it's still there." In general, advertising brochures, which indicate the maximum range of destruction should be treated with great caution. The specified maximum launch range, as a rule, can be reached at medium altitudes only for large low-speed targets, such as military transport aircraft, AEW aircraft or B-52H strategic bombers. The actual launch range for tactical or carrier-based aircraft is usually 2 / 3 from the maximum range.

The hope that with the help of the C-500 still not adopted for use, it will be possible to close all the holes in the air defense system is absolutely unjustified. If you believe the statements of representatives of the Ministry of Defense and Industry, then the main purpose of the C-500 will be missile defense and the fight against low-orbit spacecraft. Apparently, it will be a very expensive system with heavy missiles. At first, it is planned to build the entire 10 C-500 ZRS. According to National Interest, C-500 is an analogue of THAAD integrated into a “unified network” with C-400, C-300ВМ4 and C-350 systems forming a comprehensive air defense and missile defense system.

Great hopes in terms of strengthening our air defense system are pinned on the relatively inexpensive medium-range C-350 Vityaz. It is predicted that the completion of the tests and the official adoption of the new C-350 air defense system, which was created to replace the C-300PS, will take place in the 2016 year. Approximately two more years will be required for organizing the production and training of calculations. In the future, C-350 should be the basis of the ZRV VKS.


ZRK C-350 "Vityaz"


Compared with the C-300PS, the C-350 ADMS will have a greater fire performance and an increased combat readiness of the missiles. It is known that one launcher of the Vityaz complex will be able to deploy 12 missiles against 4 on C-300PS. Also, the air defense system will have a larger number of target channels, which will allow to fire more targets at the same time.

The control of the airspace, the detection of the means of air attack and the provision of information about the enemy to the anti-aircraft missile forces and fighter aircraft are provided by radio-technical troops. In Soviet times, the largest unit in the PTB was the brigade, combining separate radar and radio battalions and companies. By 1990, air defense RTV reached the highest level of development. At that time, the combat force consisted of more than 60 radio engineering brigades and regiments; more than 1000 radio engineering units were deployed in combat positions scattered throughout practically the entire territory of the USSR. With the exception of parts of Eastern Siberia, there was a continuous radar field over the entire territory of the USSR. Special attention was paid to the control of polar latitudes. Radar posts were located on Novaya Zemlya, Franz Josef Land, north-east of the European part of the USSR and on Yamal. The northernmost radar stations were located on Franz Josef Land, and in the second half of the 80s, a “point” was deployed on Victoria Island, located between Franz Josef Land and Spitsbergen. The RLP in Franz Josef Land and Victoria Island were the most northerly military units of the Soviet Union.



By the end of 90, during the "reform" of the armed forces of RTV suffered heavy losses. The number of units was reduced in 3 times (from 63 to 21), units in 4,5 times (from 1000 to 226), personnel in 5 times. The radar field has shrunk from 72 million square meters. km to 3. The control of the airspace to the north, which was most vulnerable to long-range bomber and cruise missiles, was virtually stopped by the cavity. Due to the shortage of diesel fuel for the DSA and the lack of spare parts, the duty on many radar stations was carried out irregularly. Now only zone radar monitoring of a part of the country's territory is being conducted, which, in general, reflects the general state of the Russian air defense system.

The situation began to gradually straighten out after the change of leadership of the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation. The radar began to be delivered to the troops in notable volumes: Gamma-DE, Sky-SVU, Gamma-С1Е, Opponent-GE, Caste-2Е2, 96Л6Е. Simultaneously with the delivery of new stations, a refurbishment and modernization of at least 30% of the existing PTB equipment is envisaged.

As in Soviet times, special attention is paid to the Arctic. Five stationary radar facilities and aviation guidance points are planned to be built on the Srednyaya Zemlya Earth Island, Alexandra Earth Island, Franz Josef Land Archipelago, Wrangel Island and Cape Schmidt in the Chukotka Autonomous Region and in the village of Rogachev on the South Island of Novaya Zemlya Archipelago. At each of these points, an air defense radar and an automated air control station will appear. Traffic information in the airspace over the Arctic coast will be transmitted to the air defense defense center in the Moscow region.

In the village of Rogachevo of the South island of the Novaya Zemlya archipelago, the current Amderma-2 airfield is located. According to plans, the MiG-31 interceptor air group will be located there. At the end of 2015, an anti-aircraft missile regiment armed with the S-300PM air defense system was formed on Novaya Zemlya. This regiment became the first full-fledged military unit of the North fleetformed on the islands of the Arctic Ocean.

In Russian society, diametrically opposed opinions can be met regarding the combat effectiveness of the domestic air defense system. In general, the domestic media for the most part, voluntarily or unwittingly, create a distorted view of our capabilities with regard to providing air defense. This is often reflected in the comments of individual visitors to the Military Review website. So some time ago, one of the participants in the discussion quite seriously argued that the “outdated” C-300PS air defense systems are no longer in service with the Russian Federation Air Force, because Concern VKO Almaz-Antey AO no longer extends the service life of the 5BXNNXXP / 55B5РМ SAM and With the help of radar SPRN "Voronezh-VP" you can control the airspace over the United States. A ZRV VKS armed only with the latest C-55 and upgraded C-400PM300. Moreover, after reading the two final parts of the cycle, some readers may think that the author deliberately diminishes our possibilities. I foresee comments like: “Hey, uso is lost ...” or “You can crawl to the cemetery ...” Of course, those who think that everything is gone can crawl, but the purpose of this publication was to inform the thinking part of readers about the true capabilities of the Russian air defense and about the prospects for its improvement.

When writing the cycle “The current state of air defense of the countries of the former Soviet Union republics”, the author used only “open” sources of information, which often contradict each other. In this regard, inevitable all sorts of inaccuracies and overlays. Therefore, thanks in advance for competent criticism and clarification.

Based on:
http://myzarya.ru/forum1/index.php?showtopic=6074
http://inosmi.ru/nationalinterest_org/
https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2015/12/23/7987061.shtml
http://dokwar.ru/publ/voenny_vestnik/armii_mira/sravnenie_vvs_rossii_i_ssha/3-1-0-872
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-081109-1.html
https://www.gazeta.ru/politics/2015/02/05_a_6400845.shtml
http://defense-update.com/features/2010/february/triumf_fielded_19022010.html
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  1. avt
    +7
    26 October 2016 15: 20
    One more, the last legend - And my chronicle is over, Fulfilled duty, bequeathed from God
    bully Well, the monograph turned out quite decent good
    In this regard, various inaccuracies and overlays are inevitable. Therefore, I am grateful in advance for competent criticism and refinement.
    Within the framework of open data and it’s competent, well, it’s only for. Again today Andrei from Chelyabinsk pleased with another series of legends about the tragedy in the Yellow Sea of ​​the First Pacific Squadron.
    1. +8
      26 October 2016 15: 32
      Great article. Thank you for efficiency.
    2. +10
      26 October 2016 15: 45
      Quote: avt
      Within the framework of open data, it is competent, well, just for

      Now Inok10 will appear and give a comment in the spirit:
      Quote: Inok10
      Do you remember that you announced the next article "On the current state of the country's air defense"? ... the past was just dirt ...

      It is probably worth explaining to visitors of the site from where such hostility to the author. In the past, it was Inok10 that asserted that in air defense we did not have Soviet-built complexes, but only modern C-300PM and C-400, and the author does not understand anything in air defense, invents everything and in general he is an enemy. And we do not need a solid field, since we control flights over the USA using the Voronezh radar station. Seryozha (Bongo) then mocked him with a reasoned argument, and then got into an emergency, well, I am at one with him when I tried to explain to Inok10 that he was wrong (Seryozha is a very close person for me). And this is despite the fact that Inok10 apparently did not serve in the armed forces, and his own publications had zero.
      1. +6
        26 October 2016 18: 30
        Thanks to the author who did a wonderful job! good
        The only place where it was possible to expand the subject is the electronic warfare complexes. But this topic is "closed". hi
      2. 0
        1 November 2016 13: 07
        Quote: zyablik.olga
        Now Inok10 will appear and give a comment in the spirit:

        ... is this a discussion of a new article, part 10, or are you proposing to discuss my Person, so to speak? ... laughing ... Did you miss Madame for an hour? ... and what kind of hostility are we talking about? ... commenting on the publication and the opposite opinion are not hostile ... well, in any case, in normal people ... more ...
        Quote: zyablik.olga
        In the past, it was Inok10 that claimed that we did not have Soviet-built air defense systems, but only the modern S-300PM and S-400, and the author did not understand anything in air defense, invents everything and, in general, he is the enemy.

        ... exactly the opposite ... Mr. Linnik asserted all that is S-300PS and "a little bit" S-300PM "near Moscow" in an article from 2015 written on the basis of pictures from Wikimapia.ogr and this The article "On the current state of the country's air defense" can be found by everyone and my criticism, as I see it from the current publication, was great for the author, in the same publication from 2015 the number of launchers was divided by the area of ​​Russia in the complete absence of a description of the Air Defense System, that is, the air defense of the air defense , fighter aircraft, RTV troops, RTR equipment, automated control systems, electronic warfare equipment ... and as I see from this publication, the author "remembered" about the presence of fighter aircraft, RTV troops and casually mentioned the presence of the Ground Forces air defense, which undoubtedly pleases ... but he didn’t indicate anything about the air defense system ... for the purpose of the publication is different, but sim below ...
        Quote: zyablik.olga
        And we do not need a solid field, since we control flights over the USA with the help of the Voronezh radar. Seryozha (Bongo) then ridiculed him reasonably, after which I got into an emergency, and I joined him when I tried to explain to Inok10 that he was wrong (Seryozha is a very close person to me).

        ... there was no continuous radar field of the country's air defense forces in Soviet times ... and therefore, the air defense units of the ground were on combat duty, as now, each unit has at least one DB position, on which combat training and battery duty are conducted .. then let us return to the dispute over "Voronezh DM" ... specifically, the conversation was about Kaliningrad ... and once again I will draw your attention ... all the "Voronezh" missile systems is a child of the JSC RTI named after A.L. Mints, who is from the Soviet of times led this "topic" ... except for one ... Kaliningrad "Voronezh DM" ... there is a dad of OJSC "NPK NIIDAR" (former Research Institute of Distant Radio Communication, Moscow) ... who knows the subject, knows NIIDAR not when I didn’t deal with over-the-horizon radars ... their patrimony from the centuries of the ZGRLS ... the conclusions are obvious ... the dispute is not appropriate ...
        Quote: zyablik.olga
        And this despite the fact that Inok10 apparently did not serve in the armed forces and its own publications have zero.

        ... Young lady, do not be rude ... You do not care where, when, in what position my service took place, from the word ABSOLUTELY ... and the softest thing I can tell you is not your mind! ... and, the number of publications is in no way connected with their quality ... what is now being discussed ... well, back to the article ...
        However, not only in Siberia and the Far East, but throughout the country, a huge number of critical industrial and infrastructure facilities are not covered by any air defense systems.
        ... another unsubstantiated statement ... the area is covered from the most threatened direction ... so, for Russia the most threatened directions are Western, North-Western ... where the main forces of attack "probable", as well as the South -Western and Southern (Mediterranean) and I remind you once again, attack means also have a number and range, as well as the number of carriers for example, not a single Tomahawk will reach the Urals and Siberia from anywhere now, there simply is not enough range (1600 km and that has not been confirmed) ... well, the author's logic about the need "under every bush" throughout the entire area of ​​Russia to deploy the air defense battalion , to put it mildly, is not subject to any commentary ... there is no talk about the air defense system, which is at least strange ... when a normal person understands that air defense consists of:
        - means of centralized control, guidance and target designation - ACS "Universal", "Baikal", "Polyana", "Fundament", "Rubezh"
        - RTV, RTR / RER detection tools
        - means of destruction of air defense systems, electronic warfare
        ... the deliberate exclusion from the Air Defense System of Russia - the air defense of the ground forces ... since Soviet times, the air defense of the Country and the air defense of the Ground Forces were a single system and were united through the ACS ... and thanks to the author for remembering about the "special time ", albeit in passing ... although this is the key point ... for the rest of the time the Air Defense System operates in standby mode ... the arguments from the category of" weak trailers' permeability "and" spent ammo "are surprising ... ah, that the carriers of means of destruction and means of destruction, if we are talking about a massive strike, have an unlimited range and an unlimited number? ... funny right ... and really about the air defense system, although the picture is old, it gives an idea ...
        1. +3
          2 November 2016 12: 12
          Quote: Inok10
          Is this discussion of a new article part of 10 or do you propose to discuss my Person, so to speak? .

          Well, you are discussing Seryozha, why not, or have I sinned against the truth about you? Or are you like Caesar's wife - "beyond suspicion"?
          Quote: Inok10
          Have you missed Madame for an hour? ... and what kind of hostility are we talking about? ... commenting on the publication and the opposite opinion are not hostile ... well, in any case, in normal people ... more ...

          Young man, all your comments show with dislike, you are very excited about a normal person. How "will backfire, and will respond" not heard? The series about the air defense of the countries of the former USSR was read by about 200 people. Among them, specialists were certainly qualified, but no one except you did not throw mud at the author, but did not even point out serious shortcomings. Do you honestly consider yourself smarter than 000 readers? lol
          Quote: Inok10
          Young lady, do not be rude ... You do not care where, when, in what position my service took place, from the word ABSOLUTELY ... and the softest thing I can tell you is not your mind! .

          Yes, here I agree with you, it’s impossible to talk about the service in the sofa and beer troops, they’ll laugh ... wink
          Quote: Inok10
          for example, not a single Tomahawk will reach the Urals and Siberia from anywhere now, there is simply not enough range (1600 km and that has not been confirmed) ... well, the author's logic about the need "under every bush" on the entire area of ​​Russia to deploy an air defense division , to put it mildly, is not subject to any comment ...

          Well, yes, of course the enemy has no other cruise missiles, but have you forgotten about the missiles placed on bombers, as well as about the "peace-loving" eastern neighbor?
          Quote: Inok10
          It is surprising that the same intentional exclusion from the Russian Air Defense System - Air Defense.
          It’s as if you don’t know that in peacetime the army air defense does not carry constant duty. And they are mentioned in Seryozha’s publication.
          Quote: Inok10
          a continuous radar field of air defense of the troops of the country was not in Soviet times ...

          There was a continuous field over most of the USSR, and over the Far East until the beginning of the 90's it was constant.
          Quote: Inok10
          further back to the dispute over "Voronezh DM" ... specifically, the conversation was for Kaliningrad ... and once again I will draw your attention ... all the "Voronezh" missile launcher is a child of JSC RTI named after A.L. Mints, who since Soviet times led this "topic" ... except for one ... Kaliningrad "Voronezh DM" ... there is the father of OJSC "NPK NIIDAR" (former Research Institute of Distant Radio Communication, Moscow) ... whoever knows the subject, knows NIIDAR never I was engaged in over-the-horizon radars ... their patrimony from the Pokon of the centuries ZGRLS ... the conclusions are obvious ... the dispute is not appropriate ...

          Obvious only to you fool As if it wasn't you who wrote:
          Quote: Inok10
          Kaliningrad Voronezh DM sees what is happening at the airport. Kennedy New York
          Only you forgot to say at what height, and what it gives to our air defense system.
          You didn’t write either:
          Quote: Inok10
          forget about the PS with 5В55 / 5В55Р missiles; these are target complexes for a long time, all warranty periods have long expired and the extension for 5 years too

          You are not tired of posing as a laughing stock? Seryozha said that in the middle of this year, with 300PS with non-existent missiles they were transferred from duty near Khabarovsk and transferred to Kazakhstan. Or is he wrong in your opinion again?
    3. +2
      28 October 2016 09: 50
      Quite a honest review. Thanks to the author
  2. +3
    26 October 2016 15: 28
    Shooting at firing ranges in a difficult jamming environment has repeatedly demonstrated that the real probability of hitting a single missile in the S-300P air defense system is 0,7-0,8. For guaranteed defeat of a “difficult” target, it is necessary to launch 2-3 missiles on it.

    2 missiles for one purpose - this is the standard for SAM air defense since the time of the S-75.
    The positions of all anti-aircraft systems of medium and long range are well known and quickly open in peacetime, even on commercial satellite images. Naturally, after the onset of the “special period”, anti-aircraft systems are relocated to reserve positions as soon as possible.

    Which are also often known, since they must have at least minimal equipment in order to place air defense systems on them. Agree that the road in an open field or forest, ending with the embankment, causes some suspicion. smile
    Particularly bad with the secrecy of positions was in the old complexes: the standard "Star of David" (6 circular courtyards PU in a large circle, connected by two triangles of roads for TPM) at the C-75 and "four dandelions" C-125 (4 circular courtyards PU, located fan) are read on commercial space images even a quarter of a century after their last use (for example, the C-75 position at Pukhtolovaya Gora near Roshchino).
    1. +11
      26 October 2016 15: 37
      Here is a typical S-75 position:

      In the center is a place for sacrifice. Meat and forty degrees. smile

      It's funny that some stubborn S-75 positions are really mistaken for the remains of religious buildings.
      The riddle that attracted the attention of the evangelists of several new movements at once is a structure of seven earthen ramparts of a ring-shaped shape near the village of Zhiguli. The media spoke about this “formation” in 2005, when it was photographed by V. Pylansky from a paraglider. The figure consists of a circle with a diameter of 60 m, around the central circle at an equal distance from each other there are 6 identical circles with diameters of 20-30 m. The circles are made of earthen embankments, up to 6 m thick and up to 2 m high. In each of 7 circles 2-3 openings are made, up to 3 m wide.

      There were many explanations for this riddle. This was called the UFO launch pad and the first surface effect, a replica of external radiation exposure by the energy of the superpower of 11-dimensional space-time (combined electromagnetic, strong and weak interactions). In the documentary film "The Abode of the Gods," Evgeny Bazhanov called this artifact the Solun Temple, linking it with the temple of ancient Slavic Aryans, sun- and moon-worshipers, who allegedly lived on the territory of Samara Luka many centuries ago.

      In fact, the “Temple of Solun” is a firing position prepared by the military 50 years ago to house an S-75 type anti-aircraft missile system. It is possible that the military was only going to place an air defense system there, but for some reason they didn’t place it, and maybe they did, but then they were completely taken out when the military unit was disbanded. The exact answer can be found in the military archives, but they are known to be classified.
      1. +3
        26 October 2016 22: 14
        In the center is a place for sacrifice.

        well, she’s a scholar, well, beautiful, standings, on a five-point scale, and if higher, then five with an emphasis on five with a plus,
      2. +3
        27 October 2016 00: 48
        Quote: Alexey RA
        In the center is a place for sacrifice. Meat and Forty Degree

        Well, "meat", this is understandable, this is RTB, but where to get the forty-degree one?
        1. 0
          27 October 2016 20: 32
          ASHDVAODROZHOY FOURPLUS SET OF TWO SUGAROSE, so after a week if it is not finished, there will be "meat" and fun if it is not finished, g..o question
    2. +4
      26 October 2016 15: 50
      Quote: Alexey RA
      Which are also often known, since they must have at least minimal equipment in order to place air defense systems on them. Agree that the road in an open field or forest, ending with the embankment, causes some suspicion.

      Fortunately, Russia is not a small country, and modern complexes are quite mobile. Not so long ago, C-300PS went through the center of Komsomolsk, even the traffic was blocked, and where it is not known. We must assume that in the case of a real mess, the American satellites will not work for a long time.
  3. +2
    26 October 2016 16: 32
    What about the continuation of the banquet? The condition of the radar, ASU and KSA requires at least one article. (Well, of course, so as not to carry programs). By the way, as I understand it, the RTVs were organizationally part of the Air Defense Forces of the Country, but at the same time they also provided for the air defense of the air forces.
    1. +4
      26 October 2016 16: 43
      Quote: sivuch
      The state of the radar, ASU and KSA requires at least one article.

      Nafig nafig.
      He who gives the right answer will receive ten years. ©
      1. +1
        26 October 2016 17: 50
        Quote: sivuch

        Well, of course, so as not to wear gear

        Quote: Alexey RA
        Nafig nafig.
        He who gives the right answer will receive ten years. ©

        Well, stop the fears from escalating, or do you think the truth is that reprinting information from other legal resources will give a deadline?
        Let it write the Internet as paper can stand it.
        1. +2
          26 October 2016 18: 46
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Well, stop the fears from escalating, or do you think the truth is that reprinting information from other legal resources will give a deadline?

          Legal resources for radar and air defense control systems? what
          1. +1
            26 October 2016 19: 13
            Quote: Alexey RA
            Legal resources for radar and air defense control systems?

            Oh, stop everything, he takes from the network that he thinks out something, artistically draws up and writes articles. Or do you seriously think that he knows the real situation in our air defense?
            And since fiction for the development of the general horizons of his article can be read.
            And in bulk here, for example, read information on air defense in bulk and there are quite a lot of other forums on this topic:
            Russian air defense
            http://www.rusarmy.com/pvo.html
            1. +3
              27 October 2016 00: 44
              Quote: quilted jacket
              Oh, stop everything, he takes from the network that he thinks out something, artistically draws up and writes articles. Or do you seriously think that he knows the real situation in our air defense?

              Here you take it and see what the 8th Red Banner Air Defense Corps, which covered the Khabarovsk Territory, or the 45th Air Defense Division, which covered the Amur Region, turned into? The Khabarovsk Territory is covered by the 11th Air Defense Brigade (the remnants of the 8th Corps), and the Amur Region is covered by an agreement with the PRC on the mutual withdrawal of troops at 100 km from the border line.
        2. +2
          28 October 2016 06: 40
          Quote: quilted jacket
          Well, stop the fears from escalating, or do you think the truth is that reprinting information from other legal resources will give a deadline?
          Let it write the Internet as paper can stand it.

          There would be an article, but there would be an article ....
  4. +2
    26 October 2016 19: 05
    The fact that the situation in the army and air defense of the Russian Federation is not brilliant is understandable. The fact that one aircraft, or an enemy cruise missile, can be shot down with at least 1-2 air defense missiles, I agree. The range of the S-400 SAM missiles is not me, nor the author, we certainly do not know, so it’s not worth guessing. There are air defense systems located underground in the Russian Federation, and this, in fact, is no secret, and I think that NATO is in the know. These are stationary positions of air defense systems covering airfields, for example, air defense systems are located there approximately in the same way as on warships. In general, conventional air defense systems, just the whole economy, including guidance operators, are located in shallow underground rooms, which protect more from bad weather than from enemy missiles, and this, in general, seems to be calculated. After all, people and equipment suffer from precipitation and weather, and protection from bad weather is also a necessary thing.
    1. +2
      27 October 2016 00: 22
      Quote: Wrangel Island
      In general, conventional air defense systems, just the whole economy, including guidance operators, are located in shallow underground rooms, which protect more from bad weather than from enemy missiles, and this, in general, seems to be calculated. After all, people and equipment suffer from precipitation and weather, and protection from bad weather is also a necessary thing.

      You look at photos of damaged air defense systems. When attacked by aircraft, the main damage to the cabs, namely fragmentation and those shelters about which you write, could save more than one division from defeat.
      Sergei! Thank! Normal review.
      1. +1
        27 October 2016 04: 38
        There are pros and cons. Yes, such shelters will save from fragments of ammunition bursting nearby, but in the case of a direct hit, an explosion in a confined space will be much more powerful, respectively, and the chances of surviving will be lower. In general, everything is relative.
    2. +3
      27 October 2016 05: 49
      Quote: Wrangel Island
      There are air defense systems located underground in the Russian Federation, and this, in fact, is no secret, and I think that NATO is in the know.

      They can be stored in capital shelters, but how do you imagine the work of underground guidance stations and missile launch. all the more so, given the modern capabilities of bombs and missiles, it makes no sense to build stationary positions.
      1. -1
        27 October 2016 06: 52
        Locators are on the surface, but the rest of the farm is in concrete casemates, in a small depression. There are personnel and air defense missiles launched from vertical mines.
        1. +3
          27 October 2016 10: 55
          Quote: Wrangel Island
          Locators are on the surface, but the rest of the farm is in concrete casemates, in a small depression. There are personnel and air defense missiles launched from vertical mines.

          And what's the point? And where did you see these positions? Satellite and radio intelligence tools very quickly reveal the position of air defense systems in peacetime, the publication speaks about this in plain text.
          1. 0
            27 October 2016 11: 35
            I already wrote above that, perhaps, this is the protection of equipment and people from bad weather. I saw it in the Russian Federation, next to airfields and other objects where stationary air defense systems are needed.
            1. +2
              27 October 2016 12: 36
              Quote: Wrangel Island
              I already wrote above that, perhaps, this is the protection of equipment and people from bad weather. I saw it in the Russian Federation, next to airfields and other objects where stationary air defense systems are needed.

              But there is no point in arguing and nothing. In the USSR, there was both object air defense and mobile air defense. The article clearly states this. And many of the country's air defense systems stood in the hospital. Here, unfortunately, there are no references to the experience of Vietnam, but according to the recollections of the participants in the hostilities, the S-75 had to throw the cable network, or resort to the help of the local population, after folding the air defense systems.
            2. +3
              27 October 2016 13: 44
              Quote: Wrangel Island
              I already wrote above that, perhaps, this is the protection of equipment and people from bad weather. I saw it in the Russian Federation, next to airfields and other objects where stationary air defense systems are needed.

              Not needed, modern complexes are normally protected from "bad weather". Many competent specialists on the site will tell you that non-mobile complexes are doomed to be destroyed soon and there are no such in our air defense system.
              1. 0
                27 October 2016 16: 07
                The airfield is stationary and mobile defense systems are simply not needed to protect it. What I saw is most likely the S-300, with underground missile deployment and vertical launch.
                1. +3
                  27 October 2016 20: 42
                  What I saw was most likely C-300, with underground missile placement and vertical launch.

                  yeah, in a dream ????, do you actually imagine what air defense is ????
                  1. 0
                    28 October 2016 03: 05
                    I just imagine, even my mother jumped with a parachute, almost to 60 years.
                    1. +2
                      28 October 2016 04: 50
                      and where does the parachute and underground stationary air defense systems ????????? oddly inconsistent, the elements are somehow different, so something is wrong
                      1. +3
                        28 October 2016 05: 53
                        Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
                        and where does the parachute and underground stationary air defense systems ????????? oddly inconsistent, the elements are somehow different, so something is wrong

                        And this is like Nikita Khrushchev's underground boat. Not visible on the surface, but the rumble is up to "Poriz and Landon "
                      2. 0
                        28 October 2016 09: 09
                        Well, if you don’t understand that you need to take off on a plane before a parachute jump, and planes take off from airfields, then what can I talk about with you ?!
              2. +3
                27 October 2016 20: 39
                Sergeevna, the impression is that Serega steers a bat !!!! sensibly
  5. +1
    26 October 2016 20: 07
    Here, also from open sources Yes -
    More than 130 command and control points at various levels of the seven CIS countries on Wednesday at 8 o’clock began to work out tasks to improve the interaction of the governing bodies of the CIS Common Air Defense System

    http://www.interfax.ru/russia/534127
    1. +2
      27 October 2016 05: 10
      Quote: thinker
      Here, also from open sources Yes -
      More than 130 command and control points at various levels of the seven CIS countries on Wednesday at 8 o’clock began to work out tasks to improve the interaction of the governing bodies of the CIS Common Air Defense System

      http://www.interfax.ru/russia/534127

      There are also many admirals in the Ukrainian fleet. And kings and kings loved to play with tin soldiers.
      1. 0
        27 October 2016 07: 57
        We’ll talk about the non-square fleet later (if there is a desire), but now more important: the country's air defense.
        1. +2
          27 October 2016 10: 17
          Quote: Monarchist
          We’ll talk about the non-square fleet later (if there is a desire), but now more important: the country's air defense.

          From which almost nothing remained beyond the Urals.
  6. 0
    26 October 2016 21: 23
    I want to hear about the air defense and missile defense of NATO countries
    1. +2
      27 October 2016 05: 21
      Quote: slavick1969
      I want to hear about the air defense and missile defense of NATO countries

      Already had, hammer in the search engine, or go to the Bongo profile.
      1. +2
        27 October 2016 08: 08
        Olya, your Sergey well done: did an excellent job. But its capabilities are limited: in previous works, he covered both missile weapons and the condition and capabilities of radar and air defense fighters
        1. +4
          27 October 2016 11: 02
          Quote: Monarchist
          Olya, your Sergey well done: did an excellent job. But its capabilities are limited: in previous works, he covered both missile weapons and the condition and capabilities of radar and air defense fighters

          Thank you! smile In general, Seryozha began to write after he read another delusional "patriotic" comment, in the spirit of "we will tear everyone." It was expressed in the words of Lavrov: "DB". And sat down at the keyboard. Unfortunately, there are fewer knowledgeable people on the site, for example, such as "ancient" (vaf), and more and more people who came to "cry out". At the same time, most of the "uryalok" did not even serve in the army, but they undertake to teach others "patriotism."
  7. 0
    27 October 2016 02: 00
    Interestingly, someone will master a similar cycle of articles on the MTR of the CIS countries?
  8. +2
    27 October 2016 07: 04
    Thanks for the great cycle!
    Great expectations in terms of strengthening our air defense system are assigned to the relatively inexpensive medium-range complex C-350 Vityaz
    Something I doubt that an air defense missile system with an active seeker in a rocket will be inexpensive. Not cheaper than C-400 explicitly.
    1. +3
      27 October 2016 11: 04
      Quote: Alex_59
      Something I doubt that an air defense missile system with an active seeker in a rocket will be inexpensive. Not cheaper than C-400 explicitly.

      Easier, which means definitely cheaper. But the range is less.
  9. +3
    27 October 2016 13: 00
    Many thanks to the author! hi Great work, you can at least publish a book. I hope to see more similar articles on VO! You can find a little such quality work.
    1. +2
      27 October 2016 14: 09
      Quote: Forest
      Great work, you can at least publish a book. I hope to see more similar articles on VO!

      They suggested this idea not once, but alas, a person refuses.
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  10. +1
    28 October 2016 05: 26
    Quote: Wrangel Island
    What I saw was most likely C-300, with underground missile placement and vertical launch.

    Where is interesting? The only underground silos I know in Russia are the ICBMs and missile defense systems of Moscow. The coordinates of these positions have long been known and do not constitute a secret.
    1. 0
      28 October 2016 09: 12
      In Russia, at one of the Air Force bases, it doesn’t matter where exactly. There are a lot of dill, not for their ears, and missile defense and air defense are not slightly different things.
      1. +3
        28 October 2016 09: 23
        Quote: Wrangel Island
        In Russia, at one of the Air Force bases, it does not matter where exactly.

        Yes, you stop nonsense to write that you are right as a child .. Before that, it seemed like sensible comments were written. request
        For example, I can find any SAM and radar position in any country in the world using commercial satellite imagery that is updated several times a year. Do you think that "potential partners" have fewer opportunities? No.
        1. 0
          28 October 2016 10: 09
          So it is with ,, partners '', and with dill it is worse, and even more so with frostbitten pravosekeli. They know less, sleep better.
          1. +2
            28 October 2016 12: 09
            Quote: Wrangel Island
            So it is with ,, partners '', and with dill it is worse, and even more so with frostbitten pravosekeli. They know less, sleep better.

            I did not expect that in the comments to the article about air defense they would start to remember "dill" as arguments. wassat
            1. 0
              28 October 2016 12: 55
              I also did not expect that the administration of the President of the Russian Federation would allow the sale of the components of strategic cruise missiles X-55 from the Russian Federation to Ukraine, but alas, this happened ... Too many patriots and guardians of all kinds of `` Honduras '' have entrenched themselves in Moscow. Russia has everything it pleases and has become completely insolent from impunity ... Alas, everything has rotted worse than ever ... Perhaps they already handed in EVERYTHING, as they handed over to the First Chechen, but in any case they did not learn it from me.
              1. +2
                28 October 2016 13: 17
                Quote: Wrangel Island
                I also did not expect that the presidential administration would allow the sale of components of the strategic X-55 cruise missiles from the Russian Federation to Ukraine, but alas, this happened ...


                Why are you doing this? what Like we talked about "underground" air defense systems? But for that matter, the air-based KR went to Ukraine in 1991, along with strategic bombers in Poltava.
                1. 0
                  28 October 2016 13: 39
                  What they received then, they either handed over for the debts of the Russian Federation, or cut off to applause from the United States, but today they are buying missiles with a sense and clearly against the Russian Federation and the Russian air defense, all hope, since the government claps its ears and allows the export from Russia to Ukraine components of strategic cruise missiles X-55.
                  1. +2
                    30 October 2016 11: 25
                    X-55 is "yesterday" day, so if there is any transmission of 55, it is not strategically important, remember the speed of it ??????
                    1. 0
                      31 October 2016 00: 00
                      The X-55 is the Soviet analogue of the Tomahawk missile, and for the sale of such missiles to states hostile to Russia, the perpetrators should be hung on lamp posts
  11. +1
    28 October 2016 21: 47
    Sergey, you were kind of interested - on the website of latuz-mom says that for 1981-1997 the year of preparation they bought drugs for the 21 of the Bukov brigade. But how many living brigades are now, I don’t know
    1. +2
      29 October 2016 01: 52
      Quote: sivuch
      Sergey, you were kind of interested - on the website of latuz-mom says that for 1981-1997 the year of preparation they bought drugs for the 21 of the Bukov brigade. But how many living brigades are now, I don’t know

      Igor, there are very few of them. I am aware of the following "Bukovsk" ZRBRs: in the area of ​​Srednebelaya (Amur Region), Domna (Chita Region), Dzhida (Buryatia), possibly Orienburg, at the training ground near Akhtubinsk, Volgograd, Yeisk (Krasnodar Territory), Sochi. In the past, there was information that several Buk and S-300V brigades were transferred to the Air Force-Air Defense, where anti-aircraft missile regiments were formed from them. But in any case, we do not have 21 "Bukovo" air defense missiles.
  12. +2
    30 October 2016 11: 18
    Wrangel Island,
    along the way you do not understand !!!! For a parachute jump, potential gravitational energy is required, and this is where the whole snag lies, either a jump from any kind of elevation, or from air transport, WHAT DO YOU CHOOSE ????? and if you have a paraglider ... you can from the surface 0 above sea level
  13. Ice
    0
    31 October 2016 00: 08
    The author, but what generally turns out?
    Whose air defense is stronger than Nashinskaya or theirs?

    As far as I understand, they haven’t had a very good history with air defense,
    only there are some advances in missile defense.

    Actually questions, how do you evaluate:
    1. Whose air defense is stronger than them / ours?
    2. Do they have enough air defense from our means of attack?
    3. Do we have enough air defense from their means of attack?
    4. Who has more effective missile defense?

    5. Bonus question. Is it possible in general "for now" to create an air defense system that could effectively protect against modern striking elements? (excluding Moscow air defense systems)
    1. +2
      31 October 2016 05: 53
      Quote: Ice
      The author, but what generally turns out?
      Whose air defense is stronger than Nashinskaya or theirs?

      Absolutely different approaches; in the USA and NATO, the emphasis is on fighter aircraft.
      Read here:
      US Air Defense
      US missile defense system.
      NATO air defense system in Europe
      1. Ice
        0
        31 October 2016 12: 35
        There is logic in this.
        Why use ground slow anti-aircraft guns.
        When you can use high-mobile flying.

        And why do not ours use this concept?
        Good alerts + fighter jets.
        She would be suitable for covering large areas.
        1. +2
          31 October 2016 13: 29
          Quote: Ice
          There is logic in this.

          The logic also lies in the fact that modern fighters are multi-purpose vehicles capable of performing strike missions.
          Quote: Ice
          And why do not ours use this concept?

          For many reasons. First, the geographical size and proximity to our borders of the airbases and the AUG "potential partners". In addition, we simply do not have so many fighters, and the state of our airfield network is just tears.
          Medium and long-range air defense systems carry databases around the clock, regardless of weather conditions, and it is much more difficult to neutralize them than IAs at an aerodrome.
  14. +2
    1 November 2016 07: 43
    Good - full review. Thank you - I read it with pleasure - there is something to think about.
  15. 0
    4 November 2016 13: 07
    The 1st article is blurred by emotional departures from the topic, there are also no satellite images (with an approximate placement of air defense missiles, RTV), also, the amount of lyrical digressions would be enough to describe the evolution of all air defense associations of the country (I was surprised to learn that all the reorganizations are online, before I thought that only in the archives), where for example was my native 6 Separate Amiya belay ? (I myself o-l). The author is forgiven for wanting to reach out to some readers (but here we must take into account that the site is not a military school, people come to enjoy themselves, like in football, "hurray" to shout, and what they really think ...). In addition, the whole country has been "fed" with this "hurray" since the beginning of the 90s (how it began to be bad), and at the beginning of an air attack, in all fairness it is necessary to put all the Russian defense ministers who survived by this time, and not only Serdyukov (I wonder if Rodionov is alive?)
  16. +2
    19 November 2016 22: 45
    Thanks to the author for his work. good

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