Media: British aircraft "demonstrated presence" over Russian ships in the English Channel

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The aircraft of the British Air Force made a low-level flight over a group of Russian warships during the passage of the English Channel, reports RIA News post The Times.





“Two Tornado bomber fighters were sent to demonstrate presence over Russian flotilla“- the newspaper writes.

In addition, British aircraft carried out "high-precision imaging of the passage of Russian ships in the waters of the English Channel." As the newspaper notes, citing the British Defense Ministry, the photographs “will allow us to see what is on the ships” and also “determine their draft”.

Recall, a group of Russian ships led by the aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov, October 15, began a campaign in the areas of the North-East Atlantic and the Mediterranean Sea. The passage of ships through the English Channel caused a real stir in the British press - reports about their progress were published almost every hour.
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  1. mad
    +28
    23 October 2016 09: 08
    And the black smoke from the chimney, is it a smokescreen to interfere with aerial photography? ))) It's strange that the "green" or some other rainbow ones were not connected to express their "concern")))
    1. +39
      23 October 2016 09: 12
      Any soldier understands that this is a normal regular situation. All the noise is for the layman.
      1. mad
        +8
        23 October 2016 09: 17
        Yes, they troll their own population, if every hour you remind "Russians are coming", then you can raise military spending to the joy of the military-industrial complex and forget about your own falling living standards ... and then show with your finger that Russia is to blame.
        1. +12
          23 October 2016 09: 59
          "Two Tornado fighter-bombers were sent to demonstrate their presence over the Russian flotilla."

          So how is it ? Scared of these buckets with nuts? And why are the Britons silent about how many times they could have been knocked down?
          All the noise is for the layman.

          I confirm.
      2. +11
        23 October 2016 09: 18
        “Two Tornado fighter-bombers were sent to demonstrate their presence over the Russian flotilla,” the newspaper writes.

        The newspaper’s correspondent also took a selfie with one of them. laughing
        1. +3
          23 October 2016 11: 24
          Typical nonsense
        2. +2
          23 October 2016 19: 38
          Humor understood.
          If I'm not mistaken, the photo (selfie) shows a "tornado hunter" who captured himself against the background of a tornado, not an explosion. And in the case of a tornado, you have to close your eyes and shout into the microphone so that the words can be heard.
      3. +6
        23 October 2016 09: 39
        Really smokes something a lot
        1. +3
          23 October 2016 10: 38
          Quote: Maki Avellievich
          Really smokes something a lot

          And this is to be seen further: fear adversary, Russia is coming!
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          2. +26
            23 October 2016 11: 24


            like this wink
            1. +15
              23 October 2016 11: 36
              Old boilers are always like that. Won São Paulo smokes even more.
            2. 0
              23 October 2016 17: 41
              "This is not England, dig deeper."

              The darkest is always ahead, in the most difficult direction.
          3. +2
            23 October 2016 20: 14
            This, so that from afar it was clear where to shoot.
        2. +16
          23 October 2016 11: 24
          The boatswain smokes.
        3. +3
          23 October 2016 14: 38
          Judging by the exhaust most likely on the right engine with a camshaft problem.
          1. +8
            23 October 2016 15: 31
            Judging by the exhaust most likely on the right engine with a camshaft problem.
            They would write right away, the engine "troit".
        4. +3
          23 October 2016 15: 08
          Quote: Maki Avellievich
          Really smokes something a lot

          Apparently this is why the Israeli Jews were so worried lol
          Israel called Putin a war criminal
          Knesset deputy from the block Zionist camp Eyal Ben-Reuven, who was the deputy commander of the Northern Military District Udi Adam during the Second Lebanon War, said that the relocation of the Russian squadron to the Eastern Mediterranean poses a real threat to Israeli security.
          http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2016/10/23/
          v-izraile-putina-nazvali-voennim-prestupnikom /
          1. +1
            24 October 2016 14: 54
            Quote: quilted jacket
            Israel called Putin a war criminal


            names, passwords, appearances. provocateur you my friend.
        5. +1
          23 October 2016 18: 53
          Quote: Maki Avellievich
          Really smokes something a lot

          In its current state, this is not the main thing now, the main thing is that it would normally reach, fulfill its task there, but return to the base, and there he will be received by the reliable hands of repairmen to give him a thorough "upgrade" ...
          1. +1
            24 October 2016 14: 57
            Quote: svp67
            the main thing is that it would be okay, completed its task there, but returned to the base, and there he would be received by the reliable hands of the repairmen to give him a thorough "upgrade" ...


            and if it doesn’t reach? what kind of approach, the whole world is watching.
            still didn’t get your hands fixed?
        6. 0
          24 October 2016 07: 01
          What can’t you understand? Autumn has already become cool. The heating season has come - they have flooded the boiler room with coal, and here the black smoke has gone. Let the Anglo-Saxons write - such ships do not often go there. They are tired of watching their gay parades; for a change, you can also see Russian military ships.
      4. +25
        23 October 2016 10: 42
        Quote: Black
        This is a normal regular situation.

        Well do not tell! Not every day our AUG passes off the coast of the UK.
        the photographs “will allow us to consider what is on the ships”, as well as “determine their draft”

        1. They saw and confirmed only the on-duty couple Su-33 on Kuznetsov's deck.
        2. Draft is maximum. After all, the BS are loaded in full, to the eyeballs.
        But in detail they took pictures of RTV, because each new antenna, even whip, is the new combat capabilities of the ship.
        At one time, for the sake of a mockery of ours, a couple of spherical caps were hooked on a superstrike ... There was a lot of excitement! Their scout boat, hung with photographers with "telephoto cameras for a kilometer," just did not climb onto the flight deck. And so, even under the spun, he managed to slip through. We thought that we had accidentally moved ... And the helicopter was hanging with video equipment - you could reach it with your hand.
        Now they are modestly, about 300 meters away. And then "on the fly". Somehow not even serious, even ... one might say - offensive.
        1. +1
          23 October 2016 11: 28
          So sycotic.
        2. +2
          23 October 2016 11: 40
          Not SPUANSON, but SPONSON.
      5. WKS
        0
        23 October 2016 23: 04
        And all in order for the layman to understand how heroically the British pilots flew around the Russian squadron.
    2. +6
      23 October 2016 09: 13
      And in fact, where is Greenpeace - the great and terrible ?? No, the skin is more expensive for a hamster ..
      1. +4
        23 October 2016 11: 22
        [quote And indeed, where "Greenpeace" is great and terrible] [/ quote] As where, on the chain sits, the command "face" is waiting. He doesn't care about the environment, without the command of the owner, even if you poison the whole world, they will be silent.
        1. +1
          23 October 2016 14: 31
          Greenpeace Dries Pants
    3. Cat
      +8
      23 October 2016 09: 16
      Yeah, on the rubber zodiacs for a meeting with the keel of Peter the Great, we are waiting!
      We do not promise to notice and turn away! But we will give a long beep of "memory and sorrow", and we will even invite sharks for breakfast (a parallel humanitarian action in defense of animals).
      1. +8
        23 October 2016 09: 23
        They once had that ship .. "Renbow Warior" was called, it seems, if memory serves. They pushed where not to the French, at the nuclear test site. The special forces were drowned without further ado.
      2. +10
        23 October 2016 10: 06
        Quote: Kotischa
        Yeah, on the rubber zodiacs for a meeting with the keel of Peter the Great, we are waiting!
        We do not promise to notice and turn away! But we will give a long beep of "memory and sorrow", and we will even invite sharks for breakfast (a parallel humanitarian action in defense of animals).

        There is such a signal - "I am following my course". Moremans know.
      3. +1
        24 October 2016 01: 02
        Quote: Kotischa
        Yeah, on the rubber zodiacs for a meeting with the keel of Peter the Great, we are waiting!

        My laughter already hurts:
        AMERICAN RADIO TALKS
        October 16, 1997

        “Spaniards: ... says A-853, please turn 15 degrees south to avoid a collision with us. You are moving right at us, a distance of 25 nautical miles.

        Americans: ... we advise you to turn 15 degrees north to avoid a collision with us.

        Spaniards: The answer is no. Repeat, turn 15 degrees south to avoid a collision.

        Americans (other voice): The captain of the ship of the United States of America speaks to you. Turn 15 degrees north to avoid a collision.

        Spaniards: We do not consider your proposal either possible or adequate; we advise you to turn south by 15 degrees so as not to crash into us.

        Americans (in elevated tones): CAPTAIN RICHARD JAMES HOWARD SAYS WITH YOU, COMMANDER OF THE USS LINCOLN AIRCRAFT, Navy OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, SECOND OF GREAT MILITARY CORAL. We are escorted by 2 cruisers, 6 destroyers, 4 submarines and numerous support ships. I DO NOT ADVISE YOU - I ORDER TO CHANGE YOUR COURSE BY 15 DEGREES IN THE NORTH. OTHERWISE, WE WILL BE FORCED TO TAKE THE NECESSARY MEASURES TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF OUR SHIP. IMMEDIATELY REMOVE OUR COURSE !!!!
        1. +1
          24 October 2016 01: 03
          Spaniards: Juan Manuel Salas Alcantara is speaking to you. We are two people. We are accompanied by a dog, dinner, 2 bottles of beer and a canary that is sleeping now. We are supported by the radio station “Channel 106 - Extreme Situations At Sea”. We are not going to turn anywhere, given that we are on land and are the A-853 lighthouse on Cape Finisterre of the Galician coast of Spain. We have no idea what place we have in size among the Spanish lighthouses. You can take all the ... measures you consider necessary and do whatever you want to ensure the safety of your ... ship that will smash into smithereens about these ... cliffs. Therefore, once again, we strongly recommend that you do the most meaningful thing: change your course 15 degrees south to avoid a collision.
          laughing laughing laughing
    4. +16
      23 October 2016 10: 25
      Quote: mad
      And the black smoke from the chimney, is it a smokescreen to interfere with aerial photography? ))) It's strange that the "green" or some other rainbow ones were not connected to express their "concern")))

      Toponuli tires .. Nehai feel free air Maidan lol
    5. +6
      23 October 2016 11: 42
      Quote: mad
      And the black smoke from the chimney, is it a smoke screen to interfere with the aerial photograph? )))

      The stove is being melted, the "partners" will be fried. Yes
    6. +3
      23 October 2016 12: 23
      Smiled at your sarcasm. Unfortunately, this is a backward Russian industry.
    7. +3
      23 October 2016 12: 40
      Quote: mad
      It's strange that the "green" or some other rainbow ones were not connected to express their "concern")))


      Hooked up ... There in the media for several days now there is a howl that our group violates the ecological balance of their surroundings ...

      We are waiting for the storming of Peter the Great or Admiral Kuznetsov "green", like a drilling platform in the Arctic ... bully
      1. +6
        24 October 2016 00: 40
        Even a new joke was born:

        "Jones, why are there so many crows in the sea ?!
        “These are seagulls, sir.”
        “Yes, but they are black!”
        - Admiral Kuznetsov sir! "

        But, in principle, Kuznetsov’s success in a difficult campaign!
    8. +2
      23 October 2016 13: 39
      Smoke, smoke, smoke .. everyone squealed.
      Yes, it's just that our sailors smoke ..))
    9. +2
      23 October 2016 14: 08
      Sailing across the English Channel, the Russian fleet staged a very frank demonstration of force, according to Sky News correspondent David Bowden. According to him, the aging Soviet-era ship Alexander Kuznetsov, which was refitted last year, is the only Russian aircraft carrier that makes an impression, given that the United Kingdom has no armaments at the moment
    10. +3
      23 October 2016 15: 45
      The power plant does not have enough power to reach the design speed. At a speed of 18 knots and more, the unit operates in an overload mode, the power boost occurs due to an increase in the pressure of the fuel supplied to the boilers. At the same time, the "ancient" automatic equipment of the hydraulic type does not always provide a corresponding increase in air supply in a timely manner. Hence - intense smoke, the operation of the boilers at the limit modes
    11. +5
      23 October 2016 15: 56
      Smoke at "Kuzi" is a congenital heart defect. Even "pre-conception", if I may say so. The design of the power plant almost unchanged he got from the "Kiev", despite the fact that the displacement increased by more than one and a half times (the standard was 30 thousand tons, it became 46), and the power was from 182 thousand hp. raised to 200 in total. That is, Kuznetsov's boilers always work normally "overload".

      The power plant does not have enough power to achieve the design speed. At a speed of 18 knots and more, the unit operates in an overload mode, the power boost occurs due to an increase in the pressure of the fuel supplied to the boilers. At the same time, the "ancient" automatic equipment of the hydraulic type does not always provide a corresponding increase in air supply in a timely manner. Hence - intense smoke, the operation of boilers at maximum modes.
  2. +2
    23 October 2016 09: 09
    They can, but we can’t ...
  3. +3
    23 October 2016 09: 11
    Well ... It's not "Cook" - no hysterics .. The fig may have been shown ..
  4. +2
    23 October 2016 09: 20
    Quote: dmi.pris
    .Figu may have been shown ..
    Figo was then shown "Cook", and here is the ass. But the pilots did not consider behind the smoke, and therefore no hysteria.
  5. +5
    23 October 2016 09: 23
    What disrespect for our fleet - only two, and then some kind of tornado !!! lol It's a shame, gentlemen, the British !!! lol We would have rented a couple of raptors, and so that the march "Farewell to Slovenia" would sound from them over the loudspeakers !!!
    1. +3
      23 October 2016 12: 33
      Judging by this armadillo of the beginning of the 20th century, here the Britons needed to send airplanes, there would be a good plot for Hollywood. Maybe a historical film would have been shot.
  6. +4
    23 October 2016 09: 25
    The excitement was probably caused by the fact that, in general, the British were convinced with their own eyes for the first time in 25 years that the Russians at least know how to walk on the sea. At the same time, once again intimidate the townsfolk and justify the "anti-Russian" budget. Let them rejoice that this time they passed by.
    1. +7
      23 October 2016 11: 29
      the British were convinced for the first time in 25 years that the Russians at least something can walk on the sea
      Actually, it is not the first time that "Admiral Kuznetsov" has plowed the waters of the English Channel, it is just that now the status of Russia is at a slightly different level, therefore there is so much attention. And the international situation, thanks to the efforts of Western "partners", has been pushed to the limit.
    2. cap
      +1
      23 October 2016 14: 21
      Quote: smith7
      The excitement was probably caused by the fact that, in general, the British were convinced with their own eyes for the first time in 25 years that the Russians at least know how to walk on the sea. At the same time, once again intimidate the townsfolk and justify the "anti-Russian" budget. Let them rejoice that this time they passed by.


      Passed by, but how beautiful, the whole kingdom clung to the screens.
      And there is a lot of smoke, because the captain forbade smoking on the deck. laughing
      [media = https: //rg.ru/2016/10/21/rossijskaia-avian
      osnaia-eskadra-voshla-v-la-mansh.html]
  7. +4
    23 October 2016 09: 25
    Proudly, not hiding, not being ashamed ... Let them tremble and see - Russia is a powerful sea country, and the rest is on the drum! We are like that .
  8. +3
    23 October 2016 09: 26
    Yesterday's news spari))) Not promptly!
  9. +4
    23 October 2016 09: 27
    And the low height in the British sense is how many kilometers three at least wassat??
  10. +4
    23 October 2016 09: 28
    We frolic in Syria, a great school for carrier-based aviation ...
    1. +1
      23 October 2016 15: 36
      Quote: STARPER
      We frolic in Syria, a great school for carrier-based aviation ...

      That's right. Deck flyers are great practice. They would still be a normal aircraft carrier aircraft at 60-70, in general, beauty would be Yes
  11. +1
    23 October 2016 09: 28
    British aircraft "demonstrated presence" over Russian ships in the English Channel
    And having returned to their airfields, they ran to change diapers. laughing
    1. +2
      23 October 2016 09: 37
      they naturally changed their diapers because they probably covered the radar and it was ready to defend
  12. +3
    23 October 2016 09: 35
    The passage of ships through the English Channel caused a stir in the British press - reports on their progress were published almost every hour.

    Why was not a video display of the passage of ships organized and an honorable meeting with the Salute of Nations and the British Queen not organized? And then they sent two two under-planes and thought they got off? Teresa Maiskaya urgently on the carpet to the GDP and to prevent such punctures. An example should be taken from the Norwegian Navy.
    1. Cat
      +1
      23 October 2016 12: 15
      According to tradition, the Britons should start preparing the next Baltic squadron! sad
  13. +4
    23 October 2016 09: 41
    Britain is only able to demonstrate presence on the undercover intrigues
    1. +3
      23 October 2016 22: 22
      When needed, we went to the South Atlantic and soaked Argentina.
      1. 0
        24 October 2016 12: 29
        And for one they lost:
        2 frigates (HMS Ardent (English) and HMS Antelope (English))
        2 destroyers (HMS Sheffield and HMS Coventry)
        1 container ship “Atlantic Conveyor” (Atlantic Conveyor)
        1 landing ship (Sir Galahad (English))
        1 landing boat (Foxtrot 4) [15]
        24 different helicopters
        10 Sea Harrier and Harrier GR.3 aircraft [16]
        In addition, 3 destroyers, 2 frigates, 1 landing ship received “serious damage”.
        But the enemy, in addition to the subsonic Exoset with a missile range, did not have anything else laughing There is such a notion of Pyrrhic victory, but in fact it was she ...
        And the cost of the destroyer has become equal to the cost of anti-ship missiles, and it’s weakly aaabenka, beating near, with a slow speed, unlike our line of long-range and supersonic aircraft carrier killers laughing
  14. +2
    23 October 2016 09: 48
    Seriously if, why only "old" planes were raised? Maybe they do not want to "shine" EPR and / or radar signatures of new cars? I don’t think it was a link on duty, our ships were watched for a long time and they knew when they would pass.
  15. +3
    23 October 2016 09: 54
    Flew and flew. True, they did not say at what height, but interesting. One could compare who is more professional, otherwise the Americans yelled so much about the "unprofessionalism" of our pilots, covering up their simple, human fright.
    1. +3
      23 October 2016 10: 28
      Quote: rotmistr60
      One could compare who is more professional,

      Well, there will still be such opportunities. After passing the English Channel, our squad did not leave the solar system. Gibraltar is approaching, and behind it is the 6th Fleet. The fact that "friendly" contacts with their planes and ships will be continued is possible not doubt.
      I propose to evaluate the technique for carrying out such NATO actions according to the system adopted in figure skating, plus a separate assessment for artistry.
  16. +2
    23 October 2016 09: 57
    The point is to drive Kuznetsov to Syria ??? because there is a humanitarian pause that we ourselves organized. Why are there Kuzya and Petya ??? to drive the best ships into a mousetrap, which they shut if you start boiling up ??
    1. +1
      23 October 2016 12: 49
      Quote: snifer
      The point is to drive Kuznetsov to Syria ??? because there is a humanitarian pause that we ourselves organized. Why are there Kuzya and Petya ??? to drive the best ships into a mousetrap, which they shut if you start boiling up ??



      Um ... Now is the time to bang your fist on the table and radically solve some issues in Syria ... While the "lame duck" leaves, and the chained dog Hillary has not seized the reins (reins) ...
      And this grouping, although assembled "with the world - along a string", can become a very weighty argument in various negotiations with the "coalition" ...
    2. +2
      23 October 2016 15: 08
      While in Severomorsk polar nights you can fly and train in CAP, why not.
      And cool the heads.
  17. +3
    23 October 2016 10: 35
    Thank the little shaved. I’m probably bored on a hike, but here they entertained us, showed their Frankenstein half-dead)))
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    1. +3
      23 October 2016 11: 52
      on watch there are bears and balalaikas all over the crews of planes drink seawater from the hangover and on the runway the Cossacks dance with hopak’s
  19. +1
    23 October 2016 10: 41
    "... reports on their progress were published almost hourly." This is a real honorary escort, no US AUG has ever received such an escort ... and by anyone ...
  20. +2
    23 October 2016 10: 41
    Why are they flying so dangerous and unprofessional in the vicinity of our ships? Where are the statements of their ministers with an apology? Where is Washington's concern? Why aren't the pilots fired yet?
  21. +3
    23 October 2016 10: 54
    Such maneuvers are expected in advance,
    and for courage over "partners" it was possible to bury the wheelhouse with various intricate designs ..
    Let them guess what else the Russians have for their super equipment.
  22. +5
    23 October 2016 10: 55
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    There is such a signal - "I am following my course". Moremans know.

    You may be right, but there are doubts. The ship hardly moves. Here is a photo in which the ship is moving at a decent speed, it can be seen from the cut wave from the stem, but there is no smoke either, the "exhaust" is almost transparent, and in the photo in the article there is practically no such wave.

    And here is another photo of the simply standing "Admiral", i.e. it does not follow any course, and smoke is like a smoke screen. But in practice this curtain does not save from aerial photography. Will he smoke like that for several thousand miles? Most likely there is some kind of malfunction on the ship, the ship is standing still.
  23. +8
    23 October 2016 11: 19
    Quote: bouncyhunter
    There is such a signal - "I am following my course". Moremans know

    And here is not the “Admiral Kuznetsov”, but the USS Freedom LCS – 1, a native of the United States, breeding couples in San Diego Bay.

    Black smoke at the start of diesel or turbine engines often causes not weak buhurt in the Western press. “Well, how are we going to show our star-striped (or whatever) flag to the Swedes?” To which the admirals honestly declare: "Be calm, we’ll go to Stockholm in full steam, without smoke!" But, as they say, anything happens.
    But when driving in the open sea and at full speed - black (blue, white) smoke is, unfortunately, a sign that the ship's propulsion system suffers from one of the following sores: it eats and fumes oil, evaporates completely inappropriate water or he "drinks", no matter how himself, excess fuel, throwing soot into the sky.
    In this case, often this option of the appearance of black smoke is precisely due to the fact that the admirals are squeezing out of the car at full speed, giving the engines in fact an enriched mixture and causing the appearance of that same black smoke from the ship’s pipe.
    1. +5
      23 October 2016 11: 39
      There is a difference:
      the diesel engine always throws when a mode change is in progress. This is a feature and nothing can be done about it.

      At the peak - diesel.

      Boilers smoke a bit for a different reason and permanently.
      1. +8
        23 October 2016 12: 22
        Quote: donavi49
        Boilers smoke a bit for a different reason and permanently.

        I will not say why this smoke, but "Kuznetsov" runs without smoke. Although, to be honest, I don’t understand that it was some who concentrated on the smoke? Have we got Greenpeace members on VO? lol
        .
        1. +3
          23 October 2016 16: 30
          I will not say why this smoke, but "Kuznetsov" runs without smoke. Although, to be honest, I don’t understand that it was some who concentrated on the smoke? Have we got Greenpeace members on VO?
          No, not "green", just the trolls got a new training manual about ... the cruise of the ships of the Northern Fleet, so they are trying.
    2. +2
      23 October 2016 12: 06
      On Kuz are ordinary steam fuel oil boilers. In addition, characterized by low performance. Hence the smoke. Seen fuel equipment is buggy.
      1. 0
        24 October 2016 13: 33
        Quote: spravochnik
        On Kuz are ordinary steam fuel oil boilers. In addition, characterized by low performance. Hence the smoke. Seen fuel equipment is buggy.

        Fuel oil is the lowest fraction of oil distillation, then asphalt, as the lower fraction contains the maximum amount of non-combustible substances, which cause soot formation, etc. Also, modern omnivorous engines can simply refuel with crude oil, taking into account fuel consumption, the price matters. And the newly-arrived experts on steam boilers and diesel engine systems that emerged from the cesspool became more active when Kuzya found himself 200 km from the Buckenham Palace laughing
    3. +2
      23 October 2016 12: 59
      Incomplete combustion leads to the fact that fuel particles are deposited on the inner surface of the boilers and burned on it, and not in the air, which changes the conditions of heat transfer, reduces the service life. Therefore, they try to avoid such conditions. When burning fuel oil, sulfur dioxide is emitted, forming sulfuric acid, and even with such soot ... Why is it needed.
  24. +2
    23 October 2016 11: 20
    They hope that our run to quit as on Cook
  25. +3
    23 October 2016 11: 47
    And black smoke from the chimney, so they cook porridge in the galley for NATO. The truth is a bit burnt to see
  26. +1
    23 October 2016 12: 00
    (Aircraft of the British Air Force flew at a low altitude over a group of Russian warships during the passage of the English Channel)

    And sho, like it? Know ours, St. Andrew’s flag in all seas and oceans, as bequeathed to Peter I and Pavel Nakhimov.
    Well, and who does not like it - get out of the way. good
  27. +1
    23 October 2016 12: 33
    The traditional weakness of our military officials was afraid before the campaign to tell the Minister of Defense about possible problems in the chassis ... that's why the smoke is so ... Window dressing and Slogans with Ideology are slowly squeezed out of our Army ...
    1. +1
      23 October 2016 14: 00
      nonsense) ... prove
    2. +2
      23 October 2016 14: 44
      Quote: Holoy
      The traditional weakness of our military ranks was afraid before the campaign to tell the Minister of Defense

      You are right about weakness, but you see it not at all there. Our weakness is that:
      -when Russia decided to defend its interests at a remote point on the planet, it turned out that it did not have much strength and, most importantly, financial means, including financial. And our management understands this very well.
      - For a long time it was possible to rely on Soviet reserves and use them to the fullest, now it is clearly clear that this time is over. And again, our leadership saw this, as can be seen from the desperate efforts to design and launch new or modernized weapons.
      We urgently need to build up a military grouping near Syria, especially its air component. We need an aircraft carrier there, not just yesterday, but the day before yesterday. And since we can count them with the help of one finger of any hand, there is only one way out, let's "Kuzya" "not barn, but calf".
  28. +1
    23 October 2016 12: 38
    "British aircraft" demonstrated their presence "over Russian ships in the English Channel"...

    Well, yes, well, yes ... They raised the hype, there were no words ... Even the queen spoke about how "tomorrow is war" ...
    But what do they not write about the fact that the British aircraft and ships were FORBIDDEN to approach the Russian group? And to whom and what did they demonstrate - the Peter the Great TARK?
    That's it, that "demonstrated presence" ...

    And why this empty ringing?
  29. +3
    23 October 2016 12: 44
    Quote: Maki Avellevich
    Really smokes something a lot

    Accelerates
  30. +1
    23 October 2016 13: 01
    Well, attended, what of that? Mandrazh passed, calmed down? But the sailors of you Europioids from terrorists went to protect. They can only build a pug out of themselves, offended.
  31. +1
    23 October 2016 13: 02
    and smokes, because the bathhouse is on schedule.))))
  32. 0
    23 October 2016 13: 22
    Quote...
    And the black smoke from the chimney, is it a smoke screen to interfere with the aerial photograph?

    Speaking of smoke:
    “At NATO headquarters, wild laughter. To find and destroy the Russian aircraft carrier, the alliance pilots will not even need radars, since smoke can be seen over 50 kilometers. Easy prey ”- this is the approximate tone and level of comments of“ experts ”. They seem to be trying to hide their fear, inspired by "Admiral Kuznetsov," behind the attacks on the smoke screens. He, like most Soviet warships, looks aggressive, impressive and at times more dangerous than American.
    Foreign users make fun of the strong puffs of smoke that the cruiser emits into the air. The federal news agency talked with an expert about why such a reaction is philistine and why this behavior of Kuznetsov is the norm.
    http://riafan.ru/566854-dym-otechestva-kak-skoro-
    zapad-pozhaleet-o-shutkah-nad-admiralom-kuznecovy
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    1. +1
      23 October 2016 14: 01
      Let them try) And at the same time they will observe their FOAM STEAMS, which are no less chad)
      1. +1
        23 October 2016 14: 42
        all for the purpose of disguise ....
  33. +5
    23 October 2016 14: 01
    Media: British aircraft "demonstrated presence" over Russian ships in the English Channel

    I wonder how much they saw ...
  34. +2
    23 October 2016 14: 57
    But what is the hype among the Britons? Just think, past their islets our ship proceeded on business. You just have to walk more often, more, get used to it - stop shaking.
  35. +1
    23 October 2016 15: 36
    Smokes? So what??? Does speed for regular take-off and landing give out? What else is needed?
    True, it is not entirely clear why he surrendered there, off the coast of Syria. Except as "for exercises", "cargo turnover" is much more important there. That is, the delivery of the necessary equipment and supplies there ...
    1. +2
      23 October 2016 16: 04
      Quote: Ierarh
      The truth is not entirely clear why he gave up on the coast of Syria.

      As an option, it is assumed that some of the planes and helicopters from the Khmeimim airbase will fly to the T4 airbase, where the runway is being repaired and expanded. And the planes from Kuznetsov will work on Latakia and Aleppo. Again, training of our sea flyers in combat conditions is also needed.
      Russian Aerospace Forces are preparing an airfield near Palmyra for massive attacks on ISIS
      The Russian Aerospace Forces have already built a new runway at the T-4 airbase in the eastern part of the Homs province to increase the number of sorties against ISIS terrorists. Military sources said Wednesday to Arab media that Russian and Syrian military aircraft were ready to strike at ISIS convoys fleeing from Mosul in northern Iraq to eastern Syria.
      http://rusvesna.su/news/1476896886
  36. +1
    23 October 2016 16: 10
    Quote: quilted jacket
    And the planes from "Kuznetsov" will work on Latakia and Aleppo

    It’s easier, faster, cheaper and more efficient to transfer additional planes there. About the teachings, yes, but I think this factor is not determining ...
    1. +2
      23 October 2016 16: 50
      Quote: Ierarh
      It’s easier, faster, cheaper and more efficient to transfer additional planes there

      Somehow you can do it easily smile Take and transfer planes.
      No, that won't work. smile In addition to the aircraft themselves and, accordingly, the pilots, it will be necessary to transfer the technical staff for servicing the aircraft various technical vehicles ammunition carriers firemen, again the base must be guarded, this will require soldiers to provide air defense bases, and so on .. Do not forget, by the way, the transportation of ammunition for this aircraft and food supplies to the convoys with which along the way can be fired by terrorists means they also need protection from our soldiers and other problems.
      All this will be ready on the aircraft carrier; it will only need to deliver ammunition for supplying fuel and other means that can be delivered to it by armament vehicles, while the personnel, except for the pilots of aircraft or helicopters, will not risk their lives directly on the territory of Syria.
  37. 0
    23 October 2016 17: 26
    Maybe the islanders are just bored of living?
  38. +4
    23 October 2016 19: 49
    ", British aircraft carried out" high-precision filming of the passage of Russian ships in the waters of the English Channel "" /////

    High-precision shooting did not work. Kuznetsov does not forget to put a smoke screen.
  39. 0
    23 October 2016 20: 05
    "Two Tornado fighter-bombers were sent to demonstrate their presence over the Russian flotilla."

    Well, we saw not only demonstrations, but also surrenders! We found something to scare, and the ships go to the Syrian shores not for demonstration, but for "work", which the "partners" have thrown to us cherishing and beholding their terrorist organizations in the hope that after Syria they will go to the vastness of Russia through Central Asia and the Caucasus. But they will go in a large number to their shitty garden with hourias, scary as hell! soldier
  40. 0
    23 October 2016 20: 50
    Quote: svp67
    Media: British aircraft "demonstrated presence" over Russian ships in the English Channel

    I wonder how much they saw ...

    I would be very surprised if the captain did not make the crew sunbathe. Going into the Mediterranean Sea, to the southern latitudes, will easily put the sunless military out of action. A sailor or infantryman will not be able to fight, to serve, if his skin is burned to blisters. Therefore, this is a normal picture for Russian crews.
  41. +1
    23 October 2016 21: 25
    If only I didn't have to drag the Kuznetsov to Severomorsk back from this demonstration of the flag .. Shame. Whatever they write here - any commander of the warhead-5 has such a black tail - like a sickle for this very .. This is not normal. Machines in this mode work for wear and tear. Tsushima, in short ..
    1. 0
      23 October 2016 22: 41
      Maybe MO will give it to Syria. After the victory.
    2. 0
      25 October 2016 02: 24
      Where did the service take place, "experienced"? What do you know about maritime traditions? Find, for a start, on the Internet the words "cap" and read in what cases it is "thrown", and only then start to judge the technical condition of the ship's power plant!
      1. 0
        25 October 2016 08: 31
        The hat is thrown not during the entire passage, but in a short moment.
  42. 0
    24 October 2016 06: 23
    A ship creating clouds.
  43. +1
    24 October 2016 10: 33
    After flying over "ad-l Kuznetsov" by GR4A pilots, you can enter in the flight book - flight to SMU.
  44. 0
    25 October 2016 02: 20
    I think someone from the ship's crew is "working" to the West! If it were not for this "welcome hat" of smoke, the NATO warriors would have "slept" the passage of this ship, and then, would have looked for it across the Atlantic, accusing the Russians of "unprofessionalism" and unpredictability! And so, NATE saved tons of fuel and a whole bunch of nerves!
  45. 0
    25 October 2016 11: 56
    I am your ecology, the pipe was reeling!
  46. +2
    26 October 2016 10: 07
    Our listener, Captain 1st Rank Sergei A., asks to transmit the Deep Purple song "Smoke on the water" for Lisa's grandmother from London.
    Solo on the Trumpet - A. Kuznetsov ©

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