Matserevich: Russians "made manipulations" with a black box of the plane crashed near Smolensk

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On Friday, a new Polish commission investigating the crash of a presidential plane near Smolensk at 2010 presented the results of its work, reports Look with reference to Radio Poland.

Matserevich: Russians "made manipulations" with a black box of the plane crashed near Smolensk




The Parliamentary Defense Committee was shown a video recording of Prime Ministers Vladimir Putin and Donald Tusk. It was about the fact that "the plane flew very low, touching the trees and with the landing gear, hit the ground, and then turned over backwards." Words are heard badly due to the noise of the generator.

The head of the Ministry of Defense of Poland, Anthony Maciejiewicz, stated that the plot was apparently filmed by a Polish operator, but it is not known whether the entire conversation was recorded.

Then he expressed his version of what happened: a few minutes after the plane crash, the Russians found a black box, listened to recorded conversations, made corrections, and then placed the box in the wreckage. (Meanwhile, in 2010, it was reported that the boxes were opened by IAC experts in the presence of Polish experts).

In more detail about the "manipulation" with a black box told a member of the commission Marek Dombrovsky.

“The Miller Commission (the first Polish commission created at 2010 g) manipulated the readings of the onboard recorders and reduced them. The last 3 seconds were cut from the record, and records from the Russian registrar were added instead, although the Polish side knew that there were numerous inaccuracies in its testimony. Also, 5 seconds were cut from the testimony of another Russian registrar, ”stated Dombrowski, the official findings of the new commission.

In addition, it was stated that "fragments of the presidential plane TU-154М lay at least 60 meters from the birch into which, according to the Russian version, the plane crashed." Also, according to investigators, the Russian version denies the location of the corpses, for example, “the body of the Polish Air Force commander, General Andrzej Blasik, should have been located next to the bodies of other passengers, and not in the cockpit.” In addition, "on the bodies of some of the victims, traces of fire were found that cannot be explained by the fire that occurred at the crash site."

Expert, chief editor of the portal Avia.ru Roman Gusarov: “Here is a hint of an explosion inside the plane. Such conclusions can only be made by the explosive engineer, and not by the designer. A person, even being a constructor, cannot draw such conclusions. ”

“The crash site was investigated by the Russian commission and the joint commission of the IAC, and even if some wreckage of the plane turned out to be 60 meters from the birch, then this is not surprising. Remember, the plane began to cling to the trees long before the collision with a birch tree; it cut only the tops of other trees, and then crashed into a birch tree, which led to the final crash, ”he recalled.

“I am not inclined to take seriously new statements after the official investigation has been completed. It was conducted by experts with extensive experience in investigating such disasters. Any attempts to revise the conclusions of the MAC do not have any factual basis. All that now sounds is political expediency, ”the expert added.
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  1. +21
    22 October 2016 09: 48
    Matserevich: Russians “made manipulations” with the black box

    No one has heard more stupidity. Even the Poles have already (finally) begun to doubt the mental health of their minister. Tusk did not even find words to characterize his mental health. But many European politicians are ill with this.
    1. +14
      22 October 2016 10: 12
      Quote: rotmistr60
      But many European politicians are ill with this.

      That's for sure, psychiatrists have long been waiting for their clients. fellow
      1. +2
        22 October 2016 13: 13
        Matserevich is not sick. He is a careerist with a very flexible conscience and a servant of the US State Department.

        The Minister of National Defense of Poland, 68-year-old Anthony Matserevich came into this position from the DEPUTY chairman of the party that won the elections to the Polish Sejm of the Law and Justice Party.
        Matserevich is just a historian by education. In 1971, he graduated from Warsaw University and began his opposition activities there.
        After Poland gained independence, Matserevich held a number of important posts, in the posts of which he did harm to Poland wherever he was:
        1. As Minister of the Interior in the Government of Jan Olszewski from 1991 to 1992, he created the so-called “Matserevich’s list”, which consisted of the names of politicians who collaborated with the special services of the Polish People’s Republic and the USSR. Among these politicians were members of the government, deputies, senators, and even Walesa and Khzhanovsky, who at that time held the posts of president and marshal of the Sejm, respectively. This led to a political crisis and brought closer the resignation of the government of Jan Olszewski.
        2. Later, as the DEPUTY Minister of National Defense in the cabinet of Yaroslav Kaczynski, Matserevich destroyed the military information service and published the so-called “Matserevich report” regarding military intelligence and counterintelligence. The document, firstly, contained the unreliability of certain facts, and secondly, part of the information published by Matserevich was a state secret of Poland and its disclosure was recognized as a threat to the national security of Poland itself. Matserevich also deprived the Polish military, who were at that time in Afghanistan and Iraq, of the protection of counterintelligence, and the composition, means and methods of work of the Polish secret services became known to the whole world. After this report of Matserevich, Minister of Defense Radoslav Sikorsky, Matserevich’s immediate superior, insisted on the removal of the latter. However, the then Prime Minister Kaczynski refused, and Sikorsky himself was forced to resign.
        3. It was Matserevich who led the parliamentary group to find out the causes of the Smolensk disaster.. He speculated about the alleged assassination of the president of the country. According to Matserevich, "the disaster in Smolensk was planned by the Russian special services to restore influence in the former territory of the empire and agreed with Germany."
        To confirm this hypothesis, Matserevich assembled a group of experts. However, when the prosecutor's office checked the level of understanding of the problem by the experts, it became clear that the experts selected by Matserevich did not know anything about the plane accidents. The main expert, Professor Weslav Binenda, did not even know the wingspan of the aircraft, although this is necessary to investigate the causes of the accident. Another “expert,” Professor Obrembsky, said to investigators about competence in the field of aircraft accidents, and said that since childhood he had been interested in airplanes and even assembled models. When they asked him what he understood in explosives, he replied that he had witnessed an explosion of domestic gas.
        ------------
        Thus, Matserevich takes not only a purely anti-Russian position, but also an anti-Polish position, and he can undoubtedly be considered a "pro-American hawks."
        See - http://www.belvpo.com/en/60383.html

        By the way, there is interesting information about Matserevich’s father (Macherevich)
        According to 27 time-tested data from the world's best OBS agency, the infamous Volyn CARRY was organized by Macarevich’s father. In addition, he was to blame for the executions of Polish officers, the foundation of concentration camps in Poland, the German tank rally in the Polish cavalry, and even the Greek attack on the Volochkova water pump.
        He did all this with far-reaching intentions - he knew that he would be able to destroy the Soviet Union, and then blame all his "exploits" on the Russians.
        See - http://brazilnatal.livejournal.com/5099600.html

        In other words, Matserevich’s father faithfully served German fascism - he betrayed both Poland and the Poles!
        My son is not far from dad!
        1. +2
          22 October 2016 18: 30
          Interesting information. thank
        2. +2
          22 October 2016 19: 15
          He does not have a "flexible conscience, he has a complete lack of conscience, but a flexible spine."
          What is common for Polish politicians.
          Churchill also called them "the vilest of the vile ones."
          Since then, nothing has changed.
    2. Cat
      0
      23 October 2016 12: 41
      Chef everything is gone, it’s not that birch, there is a birch grove!
      The presence of forest in Russia is normal; Smolensk tea is not in the tundra.
      I remember a Soviet joke. The Komsomol party calls to raise the fields and arable lands of the Omsk region. A question from the audience, and there is a forest. The answer from the presidium: "One pine!" Indeed, during the development of virgin lands in Omsk opposite the Regional Executive Committee, 1 (one in words) pine grew.
  2. +3
    22 October 2016 09: 49
    Matserevich: Russians “made manipulations” with a black box of an airplane crashed near Smolensk


    Well, yes ... they filled the black box with Pshenichnaya vodka ...
    another pearl of the Polish Russophobe. belay
    1. +1
      22 October 2016 11: 31
      GENIUS!!!!! I haven’t seen such a funny clown for a long time! laughing Where are our producers, where are they looking? This is a guaranteed enchanting success of the enchanting dolbyatyla. There are already quotes for recitals there. Organize tours around the country immediately. wassat
      1. +3
        22 October 2016 12: 53
        Quote: Black
        Quotes for a recital there are already in store there. Immediately organize tours across the country.

        Here he is needed like a stoplight! There are enough of their clowns.
    2. +1
      22 October 2016 17: 22
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      another pearl of the Polish Russophobe

      eternal pshk theme, -support british pants, yes make a night pot ...
  3. +2
    22 October 2016 09: 50
    Yes, we are all to blame and the Russian flood was also done by the Russians under the leadership of Putin. But to attribute the recording plane and to move the wreckage is nothing.
  4. +7
    22 October 2016 09: 53
    People, I just fear for the future of the Minister of Defense of Poland. No matter how he flew out the window shouting: "The Russians are coming!" There was already a precedent in history.
    1. +4
      22 October 2016 10: 02
      Quote: Moor
      People, I still fear for the future of the Minister of Defense of Poland

      and there everyone has a roof going and not only in Poland belay
      =====
      Queen Elizabeth warns of an impending apocalyptic war and advises to say goodbye to relatives
      At a meeting of Queen Elizabeth with world religious leaders, there was a discussion of the impending world war, as she claims that it is a “end of time” for humanity.
      At a meeting with Russian Patriarch Kirill and the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Queen said: “Now you need to make the necessary preparations and say goodbye to your loved ones, since no one can guess who will live and who will die. Many will perish in these last days. ”

      “My beloved country is about to enter the darkest period of its history, as it will take part in the brutal and apocalyptic war unleashed in the east.”

      “I don’t care about the little things for Christmas. I am concerned about the terrible consequences that we will face as war drums are beating harder”Said the Queen.
      1. +1
        22 October 2016 10: 08
        and there everyone has a roof going and not only in Poland

        Dohtora urgently to everyone ...
        it would be necessary to convene a conference of psychiatrists and voice the topic ...
        "Russophobia and methods of its treatment".
      2. +3
        22 October 2016 10: 34
        Age, what can I say ... sad Maybe we at her (queen's) age will still not learn that ...
        1. +4
          22 October 2016 12: 21
          Maybe we at her (queen's) age will still not learn that ...


          Maximum - scare or make the neighbors laugh. And this "person" is public, psychosis infects neither more nor less a nuclear country.
      3. +4
        22 October 2016 10: 54
        Old age is not joy, insanity is not an orgasm. request
      4. +3
        22 October 2016 13: 00
        Quote: Dryuya2
        At a meeting with Russian Patriarch Kirrill and the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Queen said: “Now you need to make the necessary preparations and say goodbye to your loved ones,

        So the term is then suitable for the old woman. It's time to think of the sublime.
      5. +1
        22 October 2016 19: 18
        You can certainly say that the old woman is raving.
        What if she knows something that we do not know about? Well, for example, that the issue of a big war has been resolved by the "world government"?
    2. 0
      22 October 2016 17: 23
      Quote: Moor
      People, I just fear for the future of the Minister of Defense of Poland. No matter how he flew out the window shouting: “The Russians are coming!

      and let him fly, fly. yes not alone, but with comrades
  5. +2
    22 October 2016 09: 54
    We are to blame for all the troubles. I don’t understand one thing. There was a "Kremlin trace" in the Kennedy assassination. Aren't we to blame for the murder of M. Monroe? It's a joke, but we've got it.
    1. +1
      22 October 2016 11: 13
      silly Matserevich from tragedy makes a comedy.
      it seems that soon the Poles themselves will beat him.
      1. +2
        22 October 2016 11: 38
        Well, there was a tragedy ... with a fuselage.
        1. 0
          22 October 2016 14: 27
          let's not talk about duty-free ....
          let Matserevich go there.
  6. +1
    22 October 2016 09: 56
    however ... this body with such a diagnosis still continues to broadcast something ???? strange like without a brain the body should not function ???? start preparing land in the west for transfer back to the Germans .....
  7. +5
    22 October 2016 09: 56
    I don’t know what color the box is on Matsarevich’s shoulders, but it’s certain that it’s empty.
    On the edge there is just a garbage dump
    1. +2
      22 October 2016 10: 02
      Quote: Thompson
      I don’t know what color the box is on Matsarevich’s shoulders, but it’s certain that it’s empty.

      You are mistaken: someone is sitting in this box and is whispering something to Matsarevich! smile
      1. +2
        22 October 2016 10: 57
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        someone is sitting in this box and is whispering something to Matsarevich!

        When a person hears "voices" it is a serious and disturbing symptom. It's time for him to try on shirts of a special style.
        1. +1
          22 October 2016 19: 02
          Quote: novobranets
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          someone is sitting in this box and is whispering something to Matsarevich!

          When a person hears "voices" it is a serious and disturbing symptom. It's time for him to try on shirts of a special style.
          no way. behind him the whole Polish army.
          1. 0
            23 October 2016 06: 38
            Quote: wasjasibirjac
            behind him the whole Polish army.

            Enough shirts for everyone. fellow
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  9. +2
    22 October 2016 10: 01
    like that, we wanted it as a good thing, as always, the Poles that Ukrainians are not people but just rabble, and rabble understands only a whip, otherwise
  10. +3
    22 October 2016 10: 01
    To use a quote from the article - "I am not inclined to take new statements seriously after the official investigation has been completed." hi
  11. +1
    22 October 2016 10: 03
    Matserevich: Russians “made manipulations” with a black box of an airplane crashed near Smolensk
    What are the leaders of the country. Such a country is becoming. fool
  12. +3
    22 October 2016 10: 08
    Conclusion: plant, plant and plant again (birches). Otherwise m. late to plant. Yes
  13. +1
    22 October 2016 10: 11
    Together with Mizulina, their Minister of Defense in Durkee will be fine.
  14. +2
    22 October 2016 10: 14
    Patients should be supervised in a hospital, and then a sick person in the government is sitting. Not that no one does not understand such statements is the fruit of a sick imagination.
  15. +1
    22 October 2016 10: 21
    Any attempts to review the conclusions of the IAC have no factual basis. All that now sounds is political expediency, ”the expert added.

    All that now sounds from Matsik is political RADIOUSNESS!
    This desire to run ahead of Washington along the slippery path of confrontation in the expectation that when they get late (in the sense of slipping and Mishka’s patience runs out) will protect Amer’s patrons!
    Yeah ... That's what I want to say: Learn the lessons of the history of the Second World War, Anglo-Saxon licking!
  16. +2
    22 October 2016 10: 21
    Of course, he would no longer be Stanislav Zholkevsky, but he dreamed of militarization and resentment against the Russians, because in 1667 the Russian Empire lowered the Kingdom of Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania below the baseboard.
  17. +1
    22 October 2016 10: 27
    But believe this deb.lu! angry A political prostitute is gaining points. bully
  18. +1
    22 October 2016 10: 37
    Lech Kaczynski and the entire Polish elite were ardent Russophobes and would like to mark their arrival on the anniversary of the Smolensk tragedy. If there was even a finger on the corpse blackened, the Poles would inflate the whole world about being blown up. And then there’s a whole detective story with black boxes, missing whole pieces and replacing.
    Moreover, I already saw the first hours in the Polish segment of the Internet a video where supposedly amidst the wreckage people walk and supposedly shoot the survivors. Then it was already clear that we would be blamed for all sins
    1. +1
      22 October 2016 11: 09
      this is some nonsense!!!
    2. +1
      22 October 2016 11: 24
      Quote: APASUS
      Lech Kaczynski and the entire Polish elite were ardent Russophobes and wanted to coincide with their arrival on the anniversary of the Smolensk tragedy

      God still keeps Russia ..! I think many people should think about it ...
      1. +1
        22 October 2016 11: 40
        Quote: STARPER
        God still keeps Russia ..! I think many people should think about it.

        Moreover, something is connected with Smolensk and its environs, the whole history of Russia in this area very significant events take place
        1. +1
          22 October 2016 11: 58
          Quote: APASUS
          Quote: STARPER
          God still keeps Russia ..! I think many people should think about it.

          Moreover, something is connected with Smolensk and its environs, the whole history of Russia in this area very significant events take place

          Smolensk is a fortified city, doesn’t let scum on itself and takes revenge on seeing ... Many of our people have died there in our entire history! Let them be afraid of the devil, our spiritual core over Russia! Now barking from far away .. laughing
  19. +1
    22 October 2016 10: 41
    In the course, Matsarevich also periodically applies this head to this notorious birch.
  20. +1
    22 October 2016 10: 58
    No one doubts that normal people are sick. Only the same patients listen to it.
  21. +1
    22 October 2016 11: 04
    Russians found a black box, listened to recorded conversations, made adjustments, and then placed the box in the wreckage
    He forgot to add that they poured vodka into it and put it back. Then they went to Egypt to buy the Mistral for 1 dollar.
  22. +1
    22 October 2016 11: 48
    Warsaw is again on the "spear's edge". Now the task of the Poles is to shout loudest about "bad and wicked Russia."
  23. +1
    22 October 2016 12: 18
    Here is what could be. The Poles will be told that there is no reason to revise the conclusions of the IAC, and when there are conclusions on the Donetsk Boeing, they will throw up a pretty penny, like if in our case there is no doubt about the conclusions of the international commission, then why in other cases doubt ...
    Former socialist countries to fit into the Western world willingly play along with the "common cause" by putting on clown masks, and even more so in some former Soviet republics.
    In 1991 we destroyed our USSR ...
  24. +7
    22 October 2016 12: 38
    Yes, the Poles are already making fun of Matserevich.
    1. 0
      22 October 2016 13: 40
      What laughter? The task is to blame Russia, to find the slightest clue
      The Prosecutor General of Poland intends to begin the procedure of exhumation of the bodies of those killed in a plane crash near Smolensk for the needs of the investigation. According to Polish media, the first four families have already received notice that the bodies of their relatives will be exhumed, reports TASS.
      http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2798247&cid=9
  25. +2
    22 October 2016 13: 24
    I ask everyone to note the genius of foresight AND IN STALIN and members of the Politburo who AIMEDLY planted birches at the airport near SMOLENSK to destroy the enemies of RUSSIA and RUSSIAN PEOPLE. After death, they protect RUSSIA and all of us from enemies, it is a pity that only from the outside.
  26. vmo
    0
    22 October 2016 14: 55
    Nobody expected even more from this idiot.
  27. 0
    22 October 2016 17: 14
    It's a pity there are no straitjackets on the brains. Such a shirt would be useful to this statesman of Poland, so to speak.
  28. 0
    22 October 2016 17: 22
    Lord, how long can you pay attention to the words of this psychopath Macerevich !? As they say - "the humpbacked grave will fix!" angry
  29. +7
    22 October 2016 18: 54
    Spring exacerbation, more permanent.
  30. +1
    22 October 2016 22: 51
    The Poles are utter nonsense and absurdity, all the facts are presented and revised, the commission gave its opinion and, as it were, everything is clear, the main thing is that they were not recommended to board the plane at this airport, but were offered a substitute where the weather conditions are much better. What can Russia still be blamed for? If the Polish crew decided to land in such conditions, then they made this decision themselves. The crew commander can allow this, but under what conditions did he make this decision, only the Almighty knows and why were outsiders in the cockpit?
  31. +1
    23 October 2016 00: 49
    Well, degenerates, that morning there was a heavy fog (I am from Smolensk), so they could not land the plane, we have a city on 7 hills (the northern airport is on one of them).
  32. +1
    23 October 2016 01: 15
    If that were true, Poland would raise a howl much earlier
  33. +2
    23 October 2016 06: 22
    After Poland gained independence, Matserevich held a number of important posts, in the posts of which he did harm to Poland wherever he was:

    There is nothing more to add.
  34. 0
    23 October 2016 20: 07
    It is unfortunate that you can not hear the forum users from Poland. Previously, they appeared periodically, but after the outright rudeness of some of our members of the forum patriots, they stopped talking to us .. I would like to know the attitude of ordinary people, and not our fighters of information fights, for which everyone is coming .... who we will throw our hats on.

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