Advisor to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine sees exclusively a “military solution” to the conflict in the Donbass

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Advisor to the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Zoran Shkiryak commented on the information that after Kiev fulfills the basic points of the Minsk agreements, an armed OSCE mission can be sent to the Donbass. Shkiryak expressed doubts that the mission would cope, and said that “security” would require tens of thousands of armed OSCE representatives. From his post to Facebook:
If you theoretically imagine holding some kind of elections (although, in my opinion, this is impossible to accomplish, at least in the next 2-3 year), then only the OSCE’s 12-13 will be needed to protect the polling stations and support the process.
Further. In order to take control of the border and somehow restrain the situation in the cities and villages of the Ordlo (“special districts of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions), at least as much less.

That is, in reality, you need to attract 25-30 thousand armed in police. But this does not guarantee an effective result.




Advisor to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine sees exclusively a “military solution” to the conflict in the Donbass


Further, Shkiryak actually declares that Ukraine definitely should not fulfill the Minsk agreements, and for the “return of Donbass” it should apply exclusively military force.

Shkiryak:
What to do in this situation? The answer is simple.

Continue the maximum international pressure and strengthen the sanctions on Putin and his bloody minions. Our position must be stable and indestructible: full control over our border. Installation of the central Ukrainian government with the raising of state flags of Ukraine on all administrative buildings. No amnesty for terrorists who have committed serious crimes and their leaders! Admission of Ukrainian media and political parties to participate in the future electoral process. Point. Personally, I have a feeling that we will be forced to liberate our land by military means. And it is only a matter of time. I would like to be wrong, but I do not see any other prospects.


One forgot to add Shkiryak: what will happen to the Ukrainian army and Ukraine itself, if the final command about the storming of the DPR and the LPR is given in Kiev ...
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  1. +6
    21 October 2016 17: 01
    Well, I figured it’s half of NATO, but who will let them in?
    1. +21
      21 October 2016 17: 04
      He would have a machine gun in his teeth and in the trenches ..... so no, right away, he’ll immediately roll out a certificate of mental inferiority ... an invalid for the whole head
      1. +10
        21 October 2016 17: 11
        SKURYAK in one word .... Early rejoice Svidomo, the main thing is ahead!
        Russia is focusing and it is already visible ... Run gentlemen, my advice to you all ..! negative
        1. +1
          21 October 2016 17: 13
          Hi Vital, and who needs it? Is he a prominent politician? He will die there ... from fear.
          1. +4
            21 October 2016 18: 06
            One forgot to add Shkiryak: what will happen to the Ukrainian army and Ukraine itself, if the final command about the storming of the DPR and the LPR is given in Kiev ...

            Everything is clear what will happen to the Ukrainian army. But Shkiryak, with his speaking surname, will shy away somewhere behind the cordon. Such people in the first place "tear claws".
            1. +3
              21 October 2016 18: 47
              Recently I read about the Govnobomb on VO, so Shkiryak - this is she, the GUNOBOMB.
              1. +1
                21 October 2016 20: 13
                offtopic.
                interesting news Yes
                http://izvestia.ru/news/639226
                Defense Ministry Forms Ultralight Brigades
                Motorized gunners on the UAZ Patriot pickup trucks will bypass the enemy, seep through his battle formations and deliver lightning strikes
                In the Russian ground forces there will appear unique ultralight motorized rifle brigades, whose fighters will move and fight with the enemy in UAZ Patriot jeeps. New military units created from the experience of military operations in Syria, Unlike traditional motorized rifle regiments and divisions, armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles will carry out high-speed raids hundreds of kilometers away.
                ...
                “At present, the formation of new brigades is already underway,” a representative of the military department familiar with the situation told Izvestia. - One military unit will appear in the near future in the Southern and Central military districts. The organizational structure of the new brigades will differ from the traditional one. They will have less personnel and equipment, but the “ultralight” brigades themselves will be more maneuverable and mobile.
                completely here:
                http://izvestia.ru/news/639226
                1. 0
                  22 October 2016 07: 58
                  Dr. Shkiryak does not believe in the effectiveness of modern treatments for humpbacked. The doctor said to the morgue, then to the morgue.
                2. +1
                  22 October 2016 08: 35
                  Dryunya2 Yesterday, 20:13 "oftopnu. Interesting news yes
                  http://izvestia.ru/news/639226
                  The Ministry of Defense is forming ultralight brigades "

                  Could see at home! https://topwar.ru/102431-minoborony-formiruet-vs
                  uhoputnyh-voyskah-sverhlegkie-brigady.html # commen
                  t-id-6314254
                  "The Ministry of Defense is forming ultralight brigades in the ground forces"
                  Yesterday, 10:17 (i.e. 21.10.2016 at 10:17). 10 hours earlier. Topwar forever!
          2. +1
            21 October 2016 18: 27
            and who needs it
            Well, first of all, he seems to be an adviser to the minister. In general, it is clear that nobody needs him, if he needs one, then only the owners are blathering. The question is, as they say, it is necessary to answer for the bazaar.
            1. +2
              21 October 2016 23: 24
              If he is an advisor to the minister, then he should not only "eat in the head", but also try to think to her. Based on international legal practice, an OSCE armed police mission can be admitted to Donbass only with the consent of the LPR.
          3. +1
            21 October 2016 18: 38
            Quote: katalonec2014
            Hi Vital, and who needs it? Is he a prominent politician? He will die there ... from fear.

            Hi Sash ..!. These jackals howl synchronously .. It's just unpleasant and nasty things they can do ... You can't discount such things! They now "rule" Ukraine ... Ugh damn
          4. win
            +3
            21 October 2016 20: 42
            Everyone is able to do stupid things, the main thing is then to find an explanation for her

            1. 0
              22 October 2016 11: 54
              Putin will shake three billion dollars out of Ukraine, and then Shkiryak will see a "military solution".
      2. +2
        21 October 2016 18: 34
        Quote: Black
        He would have a machine gun in his teeth and in the trenches ..... so no, right away, he’ll immediately roll out a certificate of mental inferiority ... an invalid for the whole head

        The earth is waiting for its "heroes". It is soft on dombas and digs well.
        1. +2
          21 October 2016 19: 00
          Quote: meriem1
          The earth is waiting for its "heroes". It is soft on dombas and digs well.

          4 thousand participants of "ATO" are officially recognized as "invalids of war"
          Disabled status of the war received 4 thousand participants in the so-called “ATO”.
          This was reported by the First Deputy Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada Irina Gerashchenko during the parliamentary hearings on state guarantees of social protection for the participants of the so-called. “ATO”, “dignity revolution” and members of their families. In addition, Gerashchenko added, now in Ukraine there are already more than 6 thousand family members of the dead participants in the anti-terrorist operation. http://www.ukrinform.ru/rubric-community/2104530-
          status-invalidov-vojny-polucili-okolo-4-tysac-uca
          stnikov-ato.html
          4 thousand only without arms and legs, how many thousands in the earth alone God knows, and they still have little blood. November 20 will be the 70th anniversary of the Nuremberg trials, history will repeat itself, I am sure.
          P.S. Donbass is correct, well, it's time to write correctly, without errors ..
          1. +1
            22 October 2016 11: 56
            Parashenko will give them autographed soccer balls?
      3. +2
        21 October 2016 20: 49
        Yes, what kind of machine ... He’s just a stupid person and doesn’t even understand that in the event of a military decision he will be brought to the Russian court and spend the rest of his life digging a well for Sechin somewhere in the Yamal Peninsula, but this is in a very successful turn of events, but in a bad scenario - just fell the forest in the remote taiga. He thinks that he will have time to escape to the Europeans) naive ..
    2. +20
      21 October 2016 17: 12
      That is, in reality it is necessary to attract 25-30 thousand armed European police officers. But this does not guarantee an effective result.

      Does the board not crack?

      One forgot to add Shkiryak: what will happen to the Ukrainian army and Ukraine itself, if the final command about the storming of the DPR and the LPR is given in Kiev ...

      Well offal reminded: tongue fellow
    3. +24
      21 October 2016 17: 22
      what will happen to the Ukrainian army and Ukraine itself

      Yeah what's gonna happen request Now this process is in full swing:
      1. +6
        21 October 2016 18: 38
        Quote: 79807420129
        Now this process is in full swing:


        Exactly. As one odious general secretary used to say: "The process has begun ... and ... that's where the dog rummaged":
      2. +2
        21 October 2016 19: 45
        nuclear reactors are saved. A lot of things "got stuck", but the nuclear power plants remained and are working.
        Need another example. Built aircraft carriers, build boats. Something like this.
        1. +20
          21 October 2016 20: 10
          Quote: Retvizan
          Need another example. Built aircraft carriers, build boats. Something like this.

          It's a shame, dear? This is the same way Ukraine mocked Russia in the 90s, and together we sold a country called the USSR for jeans and chewing gum with Coca-Cola: 1. Right to an eight-hour work day. For the first time in the world in the history of mankind.
          2. The right to annual paid leave. For the first time in the history of mankind.
          3. The impossibility of dismissing an employee on the initiative of the administration or the owner without the consent of the trade union and party organization.
          4. The right to work, the opportunity to earn a living by their work. Moreover, graduates of vocational schools had the right to compulsory employment in the labor sector with the provision of housing in the form of a hostel or apartment.
          5. The right to free general and vocational education. Moreover, both secondary vocational education and higher education. For the first time in the world.
          6. The right to free use of kindergartens: nurseries, kindergartens, pioneer camps. For the first time in the world.
          7. The right to free medical care. For the first time in the world.
          8. The right to free spa treatment. For the first time in the world.
          9. The right to free housing. For the first time in the world
          10. The right to freely express one’s views on all the problems of modern life in the country. For the first time in the world.
          11. The right to protection of the state from the arbitrariness of local bosses and officials. For the first time in the world.
          12. The right to free travel to the place of work or study on an individual, state-paid travel document. For the first time in the world.
          In addition, women had the right to a number of additional benefits:
          1.The right to three-year maternity leave with the preservation of the workplace. (56 days - fully paid, 1, 5 of the year - benefit, 3 of the year - without interrupting seniority and prohibiting the administration of dismissal.).
          2. The right to a free patronage service for a child for up to one year.
          3. The right to a free dairy kitchen for newborns up to three years.
          5. The right to free medical and spa treatment for any childhood diseases. Having such powerful Social Conquests behind his back, the Soviet man was sincerely proud of his country, knowing that his country has tremendous achievements in the development of its national economy, namely:
          1. We ourselves, without any outside help, restored the destroyed national economy of the country after the First World War and the Civil War, and after the Great Patriotic War. The history of mankind has never known such a national feat.
          2. In all economic indicators of the development of the national economy of the country, from the second half of the twentieth century we occupied a strong second place in the world after the United States. And we should not forget that in the twentieth century, three monstrous wars swept across the expanses of Russia, and there were no wars in the US at all over the past 150 years.
          3. In terms of the number registered in the year of inventions, we also occupied the second place after the USA. And this figure indicates the technical level of our industrial production. This level was comparable to the American one, with the first economy of the world!
          4. We possessed the world's best system of general and special vocational education, which America is only now beginning to switch to. And our schoolchildren and students at all the intellectual Olympiads of the world have always won prizes, far ahead of the rest of the world. Remember the words of American President John F. Kennedy, who said bitterly in the sixties that the Russians won the Americans competition for space at a school desk and that it is time for us Americans to adopt the Russian experience of education.
          5. We had the best preventive health care system in the world, which America and Europe are just beginning to transition to.
          6. We possessed the best in the world system of physical and sports training of the population of the country, to which China has already passed, and a number of civilized countries of the world are beginning to move
          7. We had one of the best space exploration systems in the world with which only America could compete.
          8. We possessed the best military equipment in the world with which only America could compete.
          You can add a few words here that we had a country with which we were reckoned with in the world and which was a Great Power with a Great History, with Great Industry, with Great Science, with Great Culture, with Great Education and Great Ideas for building a new society on earth, fair for all the people of the country, and not just for the rich. But now there are jeans and chewing gum full, and you say aircraft carriers. Pavel, you say Ehhh! hi
          1. +4
            21 October 2016 22: 54
            Quote: 79807420129
            It's a shame, dear?

            It's a shame for the USSR.
            Quote: 79807420129
            ? That's the way Ukraine joked over Russia in the 90s.

            when our family only had half a bag of barley and my father was malnourished on the flight to send us some money? Yes, "joking" .. of course sad .. we had the same F. I was 10+ years old and I still could not understand why I can no longer buy my favorite models of ships and planes ... that my country I was reading about was gone.
            Quote: 79807420129
            And all together we sold a country called the USSR for jeans and chewing gum with Coca-Cola

            we ourselves abandoned the idea for the sake of the material. But for some reason the country was destroyed, and even blamed for something.
            Quote: 79807420129
            we had a country with which we were reckoned with in the world and which was a Great Power with a great history, with great industry, with great science, with great culture, with great education and great ideas

            I agree. But the realization of this came after the destruction .. I was only 9 years old and for me the USSR still lives inside. But in such a childish idealistic version.
          2. +1
            22 October 2016 00: 33
            Quote: 79807420129
            USSR: 1. Right to an eight-hour work day. For the first time in the world in the history of mankind.

            You can’t read further, I don’t know what to advise you, oversleep or teach history
            1. 0
              22 October 2016 08: 45
              poquello Today, 00:33
              Quote: 79807420129
              USSR: 1. Right to an eight-hour work day. For the first time in the world in the history of mankind.
              You can’t read further, I don’t know what to advise you, oversleep or teach history

              You can and should read, well, when it becomes familiar. So what do you say in your own words: oversleep and begin to learn history, child of HIM! laughing
              1. 0
                22 October 2016 19: 10
                Quote: V.ic
                poquello Today, 00:33
                Quote: 79807420129
                USSR: 1. Right to an eight-hour work day. For the first time in the world in the history of mankind.
                You can’t read further, I don’t know what to advise you, oversleep or teach history

                You can and should read, well, when it becomes familiar. So what do you say in your own words: oversleep and begin to learn history, child of HIM! laughing

                especially for the habitual reading - Australia 1848, maybe you are not reading
      3. 0
        22 October 2016 12: 48
        Yes, Joseph Wissareonovich was not only a wise politician, but also an incomparable economist, he foresaw something that the crests quietly stumbled, well, why the hell are such people that they are to blame all around well, if not so, RUSSIA is to blame for anyone, so sorry for them or drive right away from home? I think so to drive, because the sting only upsets, and the people are still so grieved, and that people’s landfill
  2. +12
    21 October 2016 17: 03
    One forgot to add Shkiryak: what will happen to the Ukrainian army and Ukraine itself, if the final command about the storming of the DPR and the LPR is given in Kiev ...


    He hopes to have time to escape.
    1. +1
      21 October 2016 17: 07
      Quote: cniza
      He hopes to have time to escape.

      Sorry, liked, blinked for a minute, probably it took the approval of the Security Council.
      1. +3
        21 October 2016 18: 57
        Quote: katalonec2014
        Sorry, liked, blinked for a minute, probably it took the approval of the Security Council.


        In general, something is going on with the portal utterly, then comments disappear without a trace, GIFs are not implemented, then for a harmless word a digital figure appears in circles. Something IT-shniki and moderators are wise.
    2. +5
      21 October 2016 17: 26
      Who entrusted him with a fire pump ?? Buckets would not have entrusted this trickster! Although in some ways he is right, only a military decision, to throw Bandera garbage beyond the administrative borders of Donetsk and Lugansk regions.
    3. win
      +3
      21 October 2016 20: 51
      will have time to escape

      If you have a choice: draw conclusions or draw legs, then choose the second. Draw conclusions in a secluded place
  3. +5
    21 October 2016 17: 03
    will he go free himself or regret his skirk?
  4. win
    +21
    21 October 2016 17: 05

    The "military solution" can also be applied by Donbass ...

    1. +2
      21 October 2016 18: 59
      Quote: Siegen
      The "military solution" can also be applied by Donbass ...


      Ude applies with the result:
  5. +5
    21 October 2016 17: 10
    The eternal problem of Ukraine is that every gopher in the field is an agronomist. You are an adviser to the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and advise how to catch criminals, etc. Do not go into big politics. There is no place for a human scruff there.
    1. +4
      21 October 2016 18: 46
      Quote: Sentry73
      Do not go into big politics. There is no place for a human scruff there.


      They themselves said about the gopher. And this category of rodents is dirty for the economy and a hotbed of dangerous diseases. Well, what about the main Ukrainian gopher? Sausage at the summit, sausage and still. So subordinate gophers should be doubled.
  6. +1
    21 October 2016 17: 13
    what a .. cheap populist, probably, fingers on the keys erases such "idiocy" to write.
  7. +3
    21 October 2016 17: 16
    I understand that - a free, independent of no one Ukraine!
    1. win
      +3
      21 October 2016 20: 22


      Not enough words to express lack of thought.

  8. nnm
    +1
    21 October 2016 17: 24
    Well, if he doesn’t see from his office — send him to knead Mr. G on the front line for the whole winter — you look, he will see other options from there.
  9. +2
    21 October 2016 17: 26
    It will be difficult. Despite the fact that in Ukraine there are good tank units, and special forces, as well as the Airborne Forces and the Marine Corps, it is hard to believe in their Victory ... Without the support of the Air Force, there will be big losses ... However, for the time being, from the Donbass The Air Force was also not seen ...
    1. +6
      21 October 2016 17: 51
      sho you with this Ukrainian special forces what day rush like with a written bag. Remember military wisdom, well, special forces do not win the war, do not win, it never was and never will be.
      But the tank units are all the more good there and cannot be, if for 300 km the march from all the armored forces of Ukraine at least 2 percent will remain on the move, this is an enchanting result.
      And about the airborne forces and the MP they will have to solve problems that are not peculiar to these units. In order to storm LDNR in cash, one must be Napoleon Bonaparte or Alexander the Great.
      1. +2
        21 October 2016 17: 58
        As for tanks, in Kharkov they are actually released in 3 shifts ... in fact, their tanks are no worse than our T-72s, battles at the Donetsk airport showed this ...

        Kh.Z. What kind of Buddhism you mean there, but tactics in this war are so far determined by tactical battalion groups where special forces are simply necessary, among other units ...
        1. +3
          21 October 2016 18: 13
          the fact that Ukraine has a factory that used to make tanks does not mean that Ukraine has good tank units. there is also Yuzhnoye Design Bureau there and Antonov only missiles and no planes for some reason. like tanks.
          1. +3
            21 October 2016 18: 18
            Only at the airport, their Tanchik alone burned several of our T-72s during a maneuver battle, the broadcast about it even at one time was ... So there are smart people there ... you shouldn't keep them for suckers ...
            1. +2
              21 October 2016 18: 35
              I'm not saying they are stupid. I’m talking about whether all .... are polymers, but I can’t make a difference on embrasures, the special forces are light and can’t do the weather, there’s no tanks, even if every first Michael Wittmann is there, it’s also not an option, there’s no letach, that is, besides naked intuitionism there is nothing, and with it 1,5 cubic meters of land can be conquered, although for each.
              1. +2
                21 October 2016 18: 55
                In all its potential, Ukraine was the 2nd in the USSR ... They had the 3 most combat-ready districts ... Yes, a lot of things were stolen ... but it was unrealistic to steal everything ... Tanks they have never before ... unfortunately .. .

                You’ll say a show, but you only have words ...

                1. +4
                  21 October 2016 19: 02
                  That is, you need to believe any commercials ?. Everyone in a row ?. Indian cinema and dill propaganda? There are many tanks, but what years?
                  1. +2
                    21 October 2016 19: 17
                    You do not need to believe anyone, you must be realistic ... You must be able to listen to the opponent ...
                    1. +1
                      21 October 2016 21: 58
                      The enemy must be able to listen ...
                      I can responsibly declare it hmm ..
                      "Today, not everyone can listen to the enemy. Or rather, not only everyone can listen, very few people can do it."
                      listen less to the enemy or buy a special stick and fold a large trough of noodles.
                      1. +1
                        21 October 2016 22: 01
                        You, too, are not much different from their propagandists ...
                    2. 0
                      21 October 2016 22: 05
                      and I’ll also say all the heroic accomplishments of the Ukrospetsnaz in Iraq (they were there), it’s like Petrucho and the Ukrogenshtab say an instant redeployment to level the front line (and how else) with the slightest outfit and the trade of bottled water that the Americans allocated for free (this is the top of Ukrospetsnaz art )
                      1. +1
                        21 October 2016 22: 09
                        Again Slogans ... I don’t care what they did there in Iraq, I see that apart from the Slogans here you can’t show anything real ... Blah ... blah ... I’m tired of listening to the Zampolitos in the USSR ... ... do not shave Russia like that!
                      2. +2
                        21 October 2016 23: 28
                        Foolishness, I differ only in your point of view. And where do I present your slogans? You do not abuse the case there. How do I look like their propagandists in that I wrote that the Ukrainian army has no strength to cope with the Donbass, so it became clear last year in the winter and not in words, or by saying that the locomotive does not make tanks (according to your words and even in three shifts) so they are also known to everyone for three years 15 tanks made to Thais, what kind of propaganda is nafig, if you say that they work in three shifts, then there are only three of them there and they work with a file. Or is propaganda the fact that special forces cannot win a war? so where is the propaganda here? special forces for the army can earn the main resource in the war this time, but to use it the army is still needed. but at the given time there is no army in Ukraine as it was in our 90s And what about the country 35 years so that it turns out you prosralized the country and people like you, And I and people like me ... pulled it out of the ass.
                    3. 0
                      22 October 2016 02: 03
                      The enemy should not listen to how you propose, but beat (not my thought, but Suvorov). Mauger there is such a tank that several of ours in DAP were burned, I don’t know, I didn’t see it. do not read. A pre-prepared hidden position sometimes allows this to be done, but it does not affect the course of hostilities. There a lot of decisions were made by a bunch of hyacinths from Kalmius; this was already a correctly chosen tactic that radically changed the course of the operation. Ukrainians are not able to use anything against. And that poor fellow tank with a crew, go and feed the worms for a long time.
                    4. 0
                      22 October 2016 08: 46
                      Quote: Holoy
                      .. The enemy must be able to listen ...

                      The enemy must be able to dry!
                2. 0
                  21 October 2016 21: 50
                  estimate the speed at which they enter the corkscrew, because they still didn’t have a maidan with European integrators, and now they’ll break all records, by the way, you can see this with the naked eye. for 25 of the strongest republics of the USSR you yourself have become who you see.
                  1. +1
                    21 October 2016 22: 02
                    So what? But this did not become a lesser headache for Russia ...
                  2. +1
                    21 October 2016 22: 05
                    And in the USSR there were 15 Republics ...
                    1. 0
                      22 October 2016 08: 52
                      Quote: Holoy
                      And in the USSR there were 15 Republics ...

                      Oh so easy? Es ist fantastisch! Reread:
                      https://topwar.ru/71916-karelo-finskaya-ssr.html
                      "The sixteenth republic, which existed from 1940 to 1956, was the Karelo-Finnish Soviet Socialist Republic - Karjalais-suomalainen sosialistinen neuvostotasavalta." lol
        2. +1
          21 October 2016 18: 25
          Special Forces may be given in some quantity to BTG (I wouldn’t do that) as a means of reinforcement, but it cannot defeat all alone. Special Forces can give information (after reconnaissance), either time or create the conditions for an attack, but alone cannot win the war. But Ukraine does not have other resources, like the Red Army at 41 it sends to the rear of anyone without proper training.
    2. +4
      21 October 2016 18: 37
      in Ukraine there are good tank units, and special forces units, as well as the Airborne Forces and the Marine Corps
      I wonder where did you find such facts? Probably from the Ukrainian press. To prepare a good soldier, you need to spend more money than on military operations. And they even excuse the grub and uniforms the volunteers carry. All these tales about the great Ukrainian army, these are the Wishlist of the Ukrainian army itself. Moreover, we have seen her in business more than once.
      1. +1
        21 October 2016 18: 50
        If you saw her more than once, then what the hell didn’t the DNR clean up? Okay, we won’t ... By the way, right now I looked at their point of view ... The Airborne Troops Commander seemed by no means a fool to me:

        1. +3
          21 October 2016 19: 05
          Quote: Holoy
          Only at the airport, their Tanchik alone burned several of our T-72s during a maneuver battle, the broadcast about it even at one time was ... So there are smart people there ... you shouldn't keep them for suckers ...

          For an hour you are not talking about that mystical "black" elusive and invulnerable tank, about which everyone wrote a year ago?
          1. +1
            21 October 2016 19: 17
            I don’t remember, but our TV showed about this tank ...
            1. +2
              21 October 2016 19: 49
              Can you find the plot of our TV about this tank?
              1. +1
                21 October 2016 20: 49
                Look for it yourself, for me it doesn’t matter ...
              2. 0
                22 October 2016 00: 51
                Quote: sabakina
                Can you find the plot of our TV about this tank?

                I’ll also join, why did I remember the problems with the airport, but it turns out it's all a super tank, ide? open my eyelids, lackey
            2. +7
              21 October 2016 20: 35
              Quote: Holoy
              I thought their Airborne Commander was far from a fool:

              Listen dear, if you’re not a sectarian by chance, don’t be offended, but honestly I’ll tell you that you’ve been sick of ukrovermaht with your own praise, you’re not the only one to google. Yes, and in our General Staff, far from fool they sit and without you are well versed in the situation or go write to Donetsk or Lugansk, there you can see stupid people also do not understand anything, one wise colleague Kholuay, well, and request well, your pies, everyone knows, do them an invaluable service, only on this site stop scaring the ukrovermaht, you get bored, you see. Better. about the nuclear reactor, about your favorite moon tractor, write. hi
              1. +1
                21 October 2016 20: 46
                Go to the DPRK army as a political instructor ... There are people like you waiting ...

                Yes, and I didn’t fuck anyone, they were born ...
                1. +8
                  21 October 2016 20: 54
                  Quote: Holoy
                  Go to the DPRK army as a political instructor ... There are people like you waiting ..

                  Thanks for the advice, dear, I will definitely use your wise advice somehow. bully You, too, advice, go to the ukrovermaht deputy politician, there they will gladly welcome you. good
                  Quote: Holoy
                  Yes, and I didn’t hollow anyone, they were born stoned ..

                  How do I sympathize with you. fellow hi
                  1. +1
                    21 October 2016 21: 12
                    I don’t have anywhere to go now, I have long given my duty to the Motherland ... I wish you not to tear the motherland ... the slogans have not brought anyone to good ...
                    1. +6
                      21 October 2016 21: 19
                      Quote: Holoy
                      I don’t have anywhere to go anywhere, I have long since given my duty to my Homeland.

                      Dear, you know, I’ve been a pensioner for a long time, I paid my debts back in the distant twentieth century. hi
                      Quote: Holoy
                      I wish you not to tear the motherland ...

                      Well, you have the same wish. hi
                      1. +1
                        21 October 2016 21: 26
                        And they never made a mind ... apparently, the parquet ...
                    2. +6
                      21 October 2016 21: 51
                      Quote: Holoy
                      But the mind wasn’t made ... parquet apparently.

                      Yes, I will take you wassat You’ll immediately see the ward of your mind ...... N6 I’m sure, dear, I say goodbye to you, do not answer me anymore, good night to you. tongue
                      1. +1
                        21 October 2016 22: 04
                        I don’t need to make diagnoses ... look after yourself ...
        2. 0
          21 October 2016 22: 08
          Alaverdi. but what if ukrovermaht such a mighty them with ... with my rags throughout the Donbass drove?
          1. +1
            21 October 2016 22: 21
            Everyone got there, I don’t see the benefits yet ... Now If Slavyansk is returned to Kramatorsk, then it will be possible to talk, but for now you are not interesting ... Too much ...
            1. 0
              21 October 2016 23: 36
              It’s got to everyone only Ukraine wants to fight and not Donbass.
              It is clear that there are no interesting arguments, but if you can’t prove your point of view reasonably, you can only write about Chinese political instructors, blah blah blah, and that the opponent is not interesting.
              1. +1
                22 October 2016 00: 00
                You really are not interested. It’s time to understand nonsense in your 35 years.
                1. Donbass Russia is not needed, it is the territory of Ukraine.
                2. Crimea needs Russia, this is the territory of Russia.

                How to be? I personally nevermind this Donbass, it’s Ukrainian, let Ukraine and Understand it! Donbass residents do not want to live near Ukraine let them fight! What does Russia have to do with it? If Russia has, then let them take away the Donbass by force! What's the matter? But the fact is that an error occurred at the stage of the annexation of Crimea. There were two ways: 1. Attach the Donbass; 2. Honestly, we don’t need you in Donbass! Neither the first nor the second happened! The worst thing happened for the civilian population ... Donbass politicians suspended! And here I am, and here are you? What are they counting on in the Donbass? Dead end ... Feeble, are you fooling me here? Go politicians in the Kremlin to prove something, or in Kiev ...
                1. +1
                  22 October 2016 00: 33
                  Why are you getting hysterical?
                  how to be I personally nevermind this Donbass, it’s Ukrainian, let Ukraine and Understand it! Donbass residents do not want to live near Ukraine let them fight! What does Russia have to do with it? If Russia has, then let them take away the Donbass by force! What's the matter? But the fact is that an error occurred at the stage of the annexation of Crimea. There were two ways: 1. Attach the Donbass; 2. Honestly, we don’t need you in Donbass! Neither the first nor the second happened! The worst thing happened for the civilian population ... Donbass politicians suspended! And here I am, and here are you? What are they counting on in the Donbass? Dead end ... Feeble, are you fooling me here? Go politicians in the Kremlin to prove something, or in Kiev ..
                  Why you wrote all this to me is really incomprehensible. The discussion with us took place on the subject of whether or not the Ukrainian army can fence in the Donbass. You claimed that it could because the armored forces are not bad special forces of the Airborne Forces of the MP, but I argued that you cannot because the armored forces in Ukraine are completely out of the word, they will not come from anywhere, the special forces, the Airborne Forces and the MP will not be able to take the fortified areas due to the specifics of their small numbers and poor preparation.
                  you are strange people
                  And you are not particularly interesting to me either. It’s time to understand nonsense in your considerable years
                  1. Donbass Russia needs whomever it is. And now this is the territory of Ukraine only de jure. And at the first real opportunity, he will de jure cease to be Ukrainian.
                  2. Our Crimea without question.
                  How to be an eternal Russian question. I’m thinking of taking drops of 30 valocordin for you, just going to the pot just in case and going to bed, otherwise you are overexcited in my opinion.
                  how ukrovermaht offended.
                  1. 0
                    22 October 2016 12: 59
                    You wishful thinking ...

                    Like someone or not, but Donbass Russia is not de jure, not de facto not needed at all! She only supports him because the authorities in Kiev are hostile towards Moscow ... and even in the political elite of Russia they understand that the Donbass will never become Russian ... As soon as Kiev recognizes Crimea as part of Russia, the next minute Donbass will be at 100% Ukrainian. There is a bargain ...

                    I’ll answer about the special forces — I didn’t write anywhere that the special forces won the war ... I didn’t write about the war at all, there is no war at all in the Donbas, there is only a local armed conflict where tactical groups are determined by tactics. There is no single front line ... Tactics such-dowelled special forces are put forward looking for an enemy group, preferably with armored vehicles, and adjusts artillery fire raids on enemy armored vehicles ...
                    1. 0
                      23 October 2016 23: 35
                      Damn, why don’t you calm down?
                      In the Donbass I will answer briefly. Ask the Georgians what Russia needs and what not.
                      Regarding spetsnaz, for three or four days in your comments, "This is a Ukrainian spetsnaz" This is definitely the SBU spetsnaz "" They are definitely "tired of it. And about the local conflict, just an enchanting twist. local, this is so by the way.
                      "tactics are determined by battalion tactical groups" this also smiled. You are not only a representative of the elite, but also in the general department you earn money as the main creative person.
                      BTG cannot determine tactics, it can act according to a developed plan (which is being developed by higher authorities) And once again I tell you that BTG special forces don’t give you, it’s too small a military unit to give it to special forces, although no one can know the count of North-South , but actually it's a mistake.

                      Tactics such-and-attached special forces are put forward looking for an enemy group, preferably with armored vehicles, and adjusts artillery fire raids on enemy armored vehicles. Straight American cinema. There, the armored vehicles are terrifying, they walk in herds. And every Ukrainian Rex with him probably has a laser pointer, so that means to adjust the fire.

                      Everything is much simpler. As mentioned above, the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not have the technical ability to conduct intensive military operations, so there may be attempts to fight in small groups (not from the fact that they have such tactics, they simply have no other options). They are engaged in such Makhnovshchina, they ran in, it turned out to catch on, caught on if it didn’t work out, they ran away, that's all tactics
        3. +1
          22 October 2016 02: 12
          You know, but to me this "commander" seemed like a poser with a bad head. And, by the way, all the other serving and serving in the Airborne Forces, from other republics of the USSR, long ago suggested that after 2014 all air cemeteries stop wearing the uniform and insignia of "Uncle Vasya's Troops." The one who is a banderlog cannot be from the glorious army of Margelov.
          1. 0
            22 October 2016 12: 30
            It’s not yet clear how Margelov would have acted in this situation if he had been alive ... Margelov himself was from Ukraine ... everyone in the subject knows how he was reverent towards conscripts from the Dnipropetrovsk region and indeed from Ukraine ...

            His sons should not hide behind ...

            And he is 100% right about the fountains! Back in the USSR and the RSFSR, it was considered "WEST"

            Of all the republics, the Russian Airborne Forces served mainly from Ukraine, the RSFSR, Belarus, Estonia ... practically did not take anyone from Central Asia ... there was no DSAAF in profile ...
            1. 0
              22 October 2016 15: 49
              Of all the republics, the Russian Airborne Forces served mainly from Ukraine, the RSFSR, Belarus, Estonia ... practically did not take anyone from Central Asia ... there was no DSAAF in profile ...

              Correct, late noticed-In the USSR Airborne Forces of course ...
            2. 0
              23 October 2016 23: 45
              If it is not clear why to write nonsense.
              Do you think he would have looked like they are destroying the country?
              I do not think so.
              I know for sure that he would have brought his people in full force to the Maidan, and they trampled Maidan workers into the ground.
              Yes, Dad loved his fellow countrymen, but that only meant that you should be better than the rest.
              1. 0
                23 October 2016 23: 48
                By the way involved with the upcoming.
                May strength come with you.
            3. 0
              2 November 2016 00: 09
              Margelov is not clear how he behaved? Yes, immediately after the "Berkut" began to burn, I would have withdrawn my units and dispersed the entire shobla. Although . if you look at the root, he would have done the same as the commander from the movie "72 meters": he ordered to cut in "Farewell to the Slav" and with all who are with him - to Russia. Serving Ukrainians already in the 90s, the overwhelming majority of officers had a zap.
        4. 0
          22 October 2016 12: 13
          Yes, they do not call themselves and the Airborne Forces, here on the camera yes, and so Moto Shtoto in one word crap
        5. 0
          25 October 2016 18: 02
          What a good simultaneous translation! And after all, everything coincides second per second. Ukrainian highly mobile Russian-speaking airborne troops! And where is ukro-surzhik?
      2. 0
        21 October 2016 22: 06
        the facts are presented in the video above, what else is needed?
  10. +2
    21 October 2016 17: 41
    That is, in reality, you need to attract 25-30 thousand armed in police. But this does not guarantee an effective result.
    Do you need such expenses? After all, you have to pay.
    Continue maximum international pressure and strengthen sanctions on Putin and his bloody minions

    Mo-lod-tsy. The main thing is often scold Russia. But change diapers on time, otherwise it stinks.
  11. +2
    21 October 2016 17: 41
    What to do in this situation? The answer is simple.
    Take Nafik Kiev, put all dissatisfied on the count, all expressing bewilderment to send to forge.
    in the main thesis, I completely agree with him. The fastest and easiest and, not least important, the least bloody way is military.
  12. +6
    21 October 2016 17: 48
    "Continue maximum international pressure and increase sanctions on Putin and his bloody henchmen," that is ... keep him seven, and one will keep me ... wink
  13. +5
    21 October 2016 17: 58
    ".. what will happen to the Ukrainian army and Ukraine itself if the final command about the assault on the DPR and LPR is given in Kiev ... the same as when the Russian
    1. 0
      22 October 2016 00: 58
      Quote: masiya
      ".. what will happen to the Ukrainian army and Ukraine itself if the final command about the assault on the DPR and LPR is given in Kiev ... the same as when the Russian

      wow, so here it is - the invisible dill special forces
  14. +1
    21 October 2016 18: 03
    Advisor to the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Zoran Shkiryak, so he’s such a fabulous dalb ... b There are no other words, only emotions.
  15. +1
    21 October 2016 18: 04
    And what time to spend on radishes? Leave the Sharia.
  16. +1
    21 October 2016 18: 09
    All the current government of Ukraine is a bunch of homeless mongrers ready to gobble up the hosiyain for an extra dollar
  17. +3
    21 October 2016 18: 19
    Quote: Holoy
    It will be difficult. Despite the fact that in Ukraine there are good tank units, and special forces, as well as the Airborne Forces and the Marine Corps, it is hard to believe in their Victory ... Without the support of the Air Force, there will be big losses ... However, for the time being, from the Donbass The Air Force was also not seen ...

    There are no airborne forces in Ukraine.
    1. +1
      21 October 2016 18: 27
      The fact that you have decided so for yourself does not mean that it is ...

      The Airborne Forces of Ukraine consists of 6 Brigades, and one training battalion ...
      1. +2
        21 October 2016 21: 46
        Nick is very faithful, do not take away not add: "Holuay"
        1. 0
          22 October 2016 02: 20
          I wonder who he puts the pluses, he himself or someone like retvisan?
        2. 0
          22 October 2016 08: 59
          Quote: gjkrjdybr50
          Nick is very faithful, do not take away not add: "Holuay"

          Why then? The penultimate letter in the "nickname" is clearly superfluous. Another "officer's daughter" (if someone else remembers such a term)!
      2. +1
        22 October 2016 02: 19
        There are air burial grounds. Airborne cannot be banderlog by definition. Uncle Vasya will be strongly opposed, and his opinion is honored by sons and grandchildren.
      3. 0
        22 October 2016 12: 17
        and what do you want to say, the current "terrible" armada will make everyone in the neighborhood write like hell?
    2. +4
      21 October 2016 18: 51
      WHAT???? Airborne Forces of Ukraine? belay WHERE? recourse THERE IS AMV (in contagion, some kind of computer turned out) -aeromobile (grave) troops.
      Here is the airborne!
  18. +3
    21 October 2016 18: 29
    Quote: Holoy
    As for tanks, in Kharkov they are actually released in 3 shifts ... in fact, their tanks are no worse than our T-72s, battles at the Donetsk airport showed this ...

    Kh.Z. What kind of Buddhism you mean there, but tactics in this war are so far determined by tactical battalion groups where special forces are simply necessary, among other units ...

    What did the fighting for the airport show ???? Have you seen tanks released by KhTZ in 2014 or in 2013, or even at least one tank released this century ???
  19. 0
    21 October 2016 18: 38
    "... If you theoretically imagine holding some kind of elections (although, in my opinion, this is impossible to carry out, at least in the next 2-3 years), then only to guard polling stations and accompany the process will require at least 12-13 thousand armed police officers from the OSCE.
    Further. In order to take control of the border and somehow restrain the situation in the cities and villages of the Ordlo (“special districts of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions), at least as much less.
    That is, in reality it is necessary to involve 25-30 thousand armed policemen ... "

    And we are bending gyrus, what for the sake of the Ministry of Defense forms ultra-light brigades in the ground forces ..? Planting fighters in UAZ ... But it won. Well, if you need EURO, Shkiryak will have the euro ... The main thing is that everything would be legitimate, legal and ... polite.
  20. +2
    21 October 2016 18: 46
    Shkiryak forgot to add one thing: what will happen to the Ukrainian army and Ukraine itself if in Kiev the final team is given to storm the DPR and LPR.

    He didn’t forget anything, he simply didn’t agree that
    man is mortal, but that would be half the trouble. The bad news is that he is sometimes suddenly mortal, that’s the trick! And in general he cannot say what he will do tonight.
  21. +1
    21 October 2016 19: 06
    Here a certain deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Svidomo (Bereza) said that after the "defeat" of the DPR and LPR, the Ukrainian army would capture Moscow in three days. These are the powers! Scary, already horror ...
  22. +1
    21 October 2016 19: 25
    And ahead of the APU, on a dashing mare, Pan Shkiryak. Cinema and only. Before speaking Shkiryak find out the ways of your flight.
  23. +2
    21 October 2016 19: 37
    At least he had the courage to voice the real scenario of future events ...
  24. +2
    21 October 2016 19: 59
    Personally, I have a feeling that we will be forced to liberate our land by military means. And this is only a matter of time. I would like to be mistaken, but I still do not see other prospects.

    neatly disguised the opinion as necessary
    Add what is missing in the article
    According to him, at present the country's authorities are forced to "calculate all the risks." “It’s easiest to say“ Hey, go! ”. Personally, I think that sooner or later we will have to liberate our territories by military means. I do not see any other options for the development of this situation,” the source said.
    According to him, the same sentiments prevail today in the Ukrainian army and in the units of the National Guard. "Our guys are ready to go forward, and I, as a patriot, support such a scenario. But the state leadership makes a decision, we have a commander-in-chief and a General Staff, and we must realize that they also calculate certain risks and opportunities," Shkiryak explained ...
    interview to TV channel "112 Ukraine"
    He is an adviser, however, the hawks look. The president himself does not belong to them (trader by nature)
    1. +1
      22 October 2016 02: 23
      And on a fig you add it to us? Your geek's dreams are rightly indicated here, why add the rest of the verbal garbage and wagging?
  25. win
    +5
    21 October 2016 20: 02

    Vitaliy Klichko:
    "I am ready to work. The main thing is that this work is effective, and not where you sit."

  26. +2
    21 October 2016 20: 55
    The Kiev authorities through a crowd of such idiots and clowns bring their opinion and political line to the "public".
  27. +2
    21 October 2016 21: 08
    Ukrainians do not worry, Russia holds you tightly by the eggs and plays with them)))
  28. +2
    21 October 2016 21: 12
    Well, well, I made fun. From the beginning, answer the question: "Why don't polar bears eat penguins?" smile
  29. wow
    +3
    21 October 2016 21: 33
    Even then, Svidomo will not be able to excuse such as "buv in the city" or "kobanchik stakes". We know everyone and everything ...
    1. 0
      22 October 2016 12: 21
      and how long will we equip the trench?
  30. Dax
    +1
    21 October 2016 21: 45
    Tse Garni kholopitsy skurnyak seems to have been sitting on suitcases for a long time, Pyatro a long time ago, only who would let him go to Colorado's native state (even if in a quilted jacket or without), and for so many years he taught English, saved up money, did not disdain silver coins - it’s not done, Russia is in I didn’t involve the war, and after all the money striped owners paid for the work. With such subordinates, one set up.
  31. +1
    21 October 2016 21: 46
    The Bandera issue can only be resolved by military means, by rocket attacks on Bandera cities.
    1. +1
      21 October 2016 22: 46
      Quote: Phosgene
      The Bandera issue can only be resolved by military means, by rocket attacks on Bandera cities.

      list to the studio.
      Or guess Kiev (leader in "calibration") Dnieper, Kharkov, Odessa, Lvov and why Ivano Frankovsk (in which there is nothing important, but they write about him there "damn Bandera)?
      In general, it is funny and sad in general that in the Donbass with the LPRDNr just "Novorossiya" (edge) is fighting in the main. And all the cities that need to be hit as industrial centers - just in the former. Novorossiysk Territory.
      Will you not bomb Zhmerinka? smile
      1. 0
        22 October 2016 02: 27
        My dear, why such terry pedantry? Bomb exactly where the Bandera scum settled. Your Yaryoshka was declaring his victory the fact that banderlogs crossed the Dnieper. So you have to clean up New Russia. Do not think of it yourself? Or does the desire to troll overcome the mind?
      2. 0
        23 October 2016 01: 03
        Well, why. Ivano-Frankivsk is already important because its inhabitants, along with the residents of Lviv and Ternopol, are the main carriers of the Bandera idea, and it was they who incited Russophobia, Bandera and it is they who are responsible for the ongoing war today. It’s they who are fighting today in the Donbas, they were fighting in the Caucasus against the Russian Federation, and in the forefront, so these Bandera burrows need to be destroyed by rocket attacks of retaliation, first of all ... If in Kiev they think that they can shell the Crimea and the Rostov region RF, I'm not talking about the Donbass, Russia has every right to respond with a missile strike on Bandera nests.
    2. 0
      22 October 2016 01: 05
      Quote: Phosgene
      The Bandera issue can only be resolved by military means, by rocket attacks on Bandera cities.

      And where did you get such DB from the site.
      1. 0
        23 October 2016 09: 45
        You still did not understand that the real DBs are you, those who did not destroy Bandera and their puppies in the 40-50s and allowed them to multiply again. Only the grave will re-educate Bandera’s people and their puppies, but you still don’t understand this because you can’t even grasp the lessons of the USSR.
  32. 0
    21 October 2016 22: 10
    Holoy,
    and you apparently from these, from Rex?
  33. +1
    21 October 2016 22: 28
    Quote: Holoy
    The fact that you have decided so for yourself does not mean that it is ...

    The Airborne Forces of Ukraine consists of 6 Brigades, and one training battalion ...

    Learn the mate part, in Ukraine there is no Airborne Forces by definition.
    1. 0
      21 October 2016 23: 07
      Quote: 72jora72
      Quote: Holoy
      The fact that you have decided so for yourself does not mean that it is ...

      The Airborne Forces of Ukraine consists of 6 Brigades, and one training battalion ...

      Learn the mate part, in Ukraine there is no Airborne Forces by definition.

      Highly mobile landing troops of Ukraine (Ukrainian. Highly deployed airborne troops of Ukraine) - a separate branch of the armed forces of Ukraine.
      hint that there is no air ..? and airmobile (oh, these western newspeaks)
      However, this is all offtopic to the article.
      Although the statements of such people can not write.
      In Ukraine, now strictly according to the plan of another adviser.
      1. +1
        22 October 2016 02: 31
        I wrote it off to Kholu too, and by definition, aerial cemeteries, by definition, cannot be airborne forces, since this defiles the memory of Margelov. And following the results of their activities in 2014, the remaining paratroopers strongly recommend that they not remember Margelov and the traditions of the Airborne Forces in vain. All of the traditions and memorable events of the Third Reich are suitable for them.
  34. +1
    21 October 2016 22: 42
    Here is this scooter in him! maybe wiser after
  35. +5
    21 October 2016 22: 53
    Quote: Holoy

    0
    Lackey Today, 18:27 ↑
    The fact that you have decided so for yourself does not mean that it is ...

    The Airborne Forces of Ukraine consists of 6 Brigades, and one training battalion ..

    I know perfectly well who consists of what, and what the 25th brigade was (the only one that can be called airborne), and I remember very well how we caught these "heroes" in shitty pants for two weeks at the landings near Shakhtyorsk.
  36. 0
    21 October 2016 23: 33
    Guys, sorry for the offtopic, but the Ukrainians really ... http://news.tut.by/society/517016.html
  37. 0
    22 October 2016 00: 12
    He himself is not going to sit in the trenches, the maximum will be engaged in the evacuation of the survivors)))))
  38. +1
    22 October 2016 00: 14
    Zoran Shkirdyak - "our" man, since he persuades ukrokhunta to resolve the issue of Donbass by military means. "The question" of Donbass by military means to solve the Ukrainians - the gut is thin, but to solve the issue of the Kiev junta by military means - no doubt. So let this Shkirdyak continue to "cough" in the same direction.
  39. 0
    22 October 2016 00: 39
    Shkiryak actually announces that Ukraine clearly must not comply with the Minsk agreements, and for the "return of the Donbass" it must use exclusively military force.

    Wow, the casseroles also have truth-telling and sensible creatures, or whatever Shkiryak has in his tongue, then Poroshenko has it in his head. That is, if you return the cut chunk, then you need to fight for it.

    Diplomacy, as you know, is the art of hiding your intentions in words. What was true before the era of Wikileaks. Now you can not hide it, it will open anyway. UKRs are not trying to hide anything, honest guys, chopping the truth - a womb that Russia does not seem to be offended by, because the brothers are around ...

    I’m afraid that our great bosses and diplomats of their intentions in the Donbass, such as returning rebel territory to Ukraine, do not hide ...
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  41. +1
    22 October 2016 04: 05
    The surname speaks for the person .. Yes, and whether the person is more likely an animal ..
  42. 0
    22 October 2016 08: 28
    Quote: Holoy
    it’s impossible to steal everything ... Tanks they have to fig ... unfortunately ...

    You’ll say a show, but you only have words ...

    Yes, at least three times before the fig. Only the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not want to fight with the Donbass. In reality, only mercenaries and frostbitten are fighting there, such as law enforcement officers, Azov, etc.
  43. +1
    22 October 2016 08: 38
    sees exclusively "military solution" to the conflict in Donbass

    That's all I wanted to say ....
  44. 0
    22 October 2016 09: 30
    Hi!! Here it is the reality. Whether we wanted to or not, but unfortunately this is a given. It is necessary to look realistically. The authorities in Kiev and around it see no other way .. Two years were enough to push people into fratricide. Having read the comments, I did not see a good overview of the actions of the authorities in Kiev. she is really anxious. Behind all the verbal husks, a severe and terrible syndrome is beginning to be seen ... The alarm bell has already rung out ... It has been announced that a nationalist party has been created ... After a while we will see them in the parliament of this country. All these floundering in the Parliament will soon end. In place of all these co-workers, a confident new force is coming .. And external forces will definitely help her .. With it’s too old, but the system of creating batches of this type has always had money bags in reserve .. Really harsh times will come ..
  45. 0
    22 October 2016 09: 31
    Advisers in the Ruin))) Some empty craps. Like their generals Illovaysky and Debaltsevsky. Dangerous deibilist dreamers. Everyone wants to get more and only one Tymoshenko has already received, so the mountain stands for simple ruins))))
  46. 3vs
    0
    22 October 2016 10: 15
    It’s too late to treat these schizophrenics!

    It is time for Russians in their land called Ukraine to recall a song from
    film "Alexander Nevsky":
    “Get up, Russian people”

    Get up, Russian people,
    To a glorious battle, to a mortal battle.
    Get up, people are free
    For our land fair!

    Living fighters honor and honor,
    And to the dead - eternal glory.
    For the father’s house, for the Russian land
    Get up, Russian people!

    Get up, Russian people,
    To a glorious battle, to a mortal battle.
    Get up, people are free
    For our land fair!

    In native Russia,
    In Russia, large
    Do not be the enemy!
    Do not be the enemy!
    Get up, get up
    Mother dear, Russia!
    Get up, get up
    Mother dear, Russia!

    Get up, Russian people,
    To a glorious battle, to a mortal battle.
    Get up, people are free
    For our land fair!

    Do not go to enemies in Russia,
    Regiments to Russia do not matter!
    Ways to never see,
    Do not trample the fields of Russia

    Get up, Russian people,
    To a glorious battle, to a mortal battle.
    Get up, people are free
    For our land fair!
  47. +1
    22 October 2016 11: 08
    Is this the same Shkiryak who heraically took out his injured compatriots from Goa, proudly abandoning the Russian side for evacuation? lol
    1. 0
      22 October 2016 19: 48
      yes, this particular clown
  48. 0
    22 October 2016 11: 28
    It is unlikely that they do not understand that they are pursuing a suicidal policy ... In Ukraine, the population is decreasing at a monstrous pace. Soon, only "racially high-grade" ones will remain. Well, the devil will help them - it will be easier to clean.
  49. 0
    22 October 2016 14: 15
    I think here even Dr. Hitler will be powerless.
  50. 0
    22 October 2016 19: 45
    Circus idiots. I somehow forgot about this clown
  51. 0
    22 October 2016 20: 40
    30-50 thousand Euro-elves against 100 thousand-1 million Mordoro-Buryats. It’s difficult, but there are great numenorukurks. There is a chance! Although the diagnosis is complicated Shkiryak of the entire brain, including the spinal cord. Treatment: haloperidol with vodka, lard not in the head, rub the face and chest with a mixture of dill and parsley.

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

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