"And for us something for what? .."

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Western partners have clearly stepped up thinking about what other restrictive measures to introduce in relation to the Russian Federation in order to stop the process of growing Russian influence in the world, clearly undermining the foundations of American unipolarity. Prohibiting individual officials from entering the EU and the countries of North America or arranging financial demarches about Russian companies is not as effective as Washington would like. Prohibiting the importation of Russian products into the European Union countries - so here, before the apparent discord with Russia, the European market for Russian goods was actually blocked. That is why they scratch their heads, thinking what kind of stick can be thrust into Russian wheels so that it does not suddenly rebound and knock out its own teeth.

While in the United States are busy with the problems of the "sweet couple" Clinton-Trump, as well as the "victorious operation" near Mosul of a lame duck named Barack Obama, representatives of the European continent decided to take on the role of the embodiment of new anti-Russian measures. So, at the beginning of last week in the Foreign Affairs Committee of the European Parliament, a resolution was adopted on countering "Russian propaganda." In order for the European parliamentarians to penetrate, as they say, to the bone, the project was held under a peculiar status of “Russian propaganda inspired by the Kremlin and aimed at dividing Europe.”



Here is an excerpt from this sentimental document:
The Russian government is actively using a wide range of methods and tools, such as think tank [...] centers, multilingual television channels (for example, Russia Today), pseudo-information agencies [...], social media and Internet trolls to challenge democratic values, divide Europe, collect domestic support and create an atmosphere of rejection of a number of neighboring states.


The terminology in the style of “pseudo-information agencies” and “Internet trolls” is especially highlighted. An idea immediately appeared in my head: if your humble servant (the author of this material) is currently describing the adoption of this overtly anti-Russian resolution by the Foreign Affairs Committee of the European Parliament, who is he (that is, me)? - “Internet troll” or a representative of a “pseudo-information” resource - according to the European classification? .. Or one and the other at the same time? ..

But this resolution was prepared by government officials who themselves literally merged, first with anti-Soviet, and then anti-Russian propaganda from its leading figures such as Deutsche Welle, Radio Liberty, BBC, and Voice of America in the same list, although, of course, he has no direct relation to the EU.

More than others, the representative of Britain insisted on adopting the resolution, which, although it had announced “brexit”, was trying to force its own members into the EU.

By the way, it was after discussing the possibilities of countering the “Russian propaganda” that the British bank NatWest informed the RT leadership about the imminent closure of accounts. And although after this, reports began to appear that the banking group of Royal Bank of Scotland, which includes NatWest, offered RT to discuss the possible closure of accounts, the matter has not gone further, and the British representative of the Russian channel (working from 2005) actually prepares for the worse.

European officials, who at every pillar are afraid that they are fully and completely free of speech, have decided to take the path of eliminating informational competitors. The same Britain is clearly hurt by the fact that hundreds of thousands of British nationals turn on a TV or computer and learn about events from RT, ignoring one-sided reports with boring Western cliches, from the same BBC. And in order to explain to their fellow citizens how it is - why freedom of speech is trampled down in the dirt, resolutions are invented, to which they can later be referred to by declaring literally the following: we told you that the Russian media have nothing to do with freedom of speech, generators of Kremlin propaganda, and they need to be closed, banning broadcasting or poisoning life financially.

On this occasion, the spokesperson of the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova spoke on the 60 Minutes program on Russia 1 on Tuesday. She said that the West is clearly asking for retaliation from the Russian Federation. As long as someone from Western journalists is not driven out of Russia under the friendly hooting of the public, they are hardly aware that the attacks on Russian journalists working in the West are outright persecution of the press. Maria added that I would not like to move to such actions, but we were not the first to start ...

For obvious reasons, if the infringement of the rights of Russian media journalists working in the EU and the USA continues, then Russia will simply by definition be forced to take reciprocal steps. Everything is in the hands of the Ministry of Justice and Roskomnadzor, which can, ignoring the wild cries of "non-hollow", use their resources so that the same Radio Liberty or Deutsche Welle can find materials under the Russian law under the concept of "extremist."

Here, offhand, material from «Radio Svoboda» (first line):
EU foreign ministers condemned in a joint statement on Monday Syrian regime and Russia for air strikes against civilian targets in the eastern part of Aleppo, which is under the control of the rebels.


In the material there is a photo with the caption: “Aleppo after an air strike of the Russian Aerospace Forces, October 12”.

When a large media outlet that broadcasts to Russia in Russian allows itself such materials with completely unsubstantiated charges and statements issued as ultimate truth, moreover, actually based on the misinformation of resources controlled by extremists in Syria, the question arises: is it too much? did the representatives of these anti-Russian propaganda mouthpieces clearly feel their impunity? After all, as soon as Russia demonstrates information that does not fit into the Procrustean bed of the Western propaganda machine, so Russian journalists are immediately trying to “take it out of the brackets” and declare them “Kremlin agents.” And as soon as Russia makes it clear that it can do the same with Western "partners", then there is a cry in the style of "And why should we? .."

"And for us something for what? .."


On October 21, the European Parliament has scheduled a discussion of a resolution on “opposing Russian propaganda” in broad composition. In the resolution, the following points are given as examples of “Russian propaganda”:

cyber attack on Estonia in connection with the dismantling of the monument "Bronze Soldier",
reports about the migration crisis in the EU,
materials about the crash of the aircraft of the Polish president near Smolensk.


In other words, we are trying to shut up. You see, we shouldn’t say anything about how hundreds of thousands of migrants after the destructive NATO expansion to the Middle East storm the EU borders. We must be silent in a rag, when monuments to Soviet soldiers-liberators break or try to remove from sight. We must be silent about the fact that the commander-in-chief of the Polish Air Force drunk broke into the cockpit of the Tu-154 pilots in the spring of 2010, and actually gave orders to pilots who had to land the plane in the most difficult weather conditions with numerous warnings from dispatchers about the need to leave for the alternate aerodrome.

We always, you see, must be silent ... When they called terrorists in the North Caucasus “freedom fighters”, when Powell shook a test tube with washing powder shouting about “chemical weapons” in Iraq, when under the guise of a Kuwaiti nurse telling “atrocities Hussein's soldier “shamelessly lied to the embassy’s daughter when the useless zone over Libya was used to destroy the statehood of this country, when NATO aircraft ironed the European state on Yugoslavia with depleted uranium bombs, killing hundreds of civilians.

But we (Russia) are not silent, and are no longer going to be silent. And it is precisely this that brings to white heat those who are mired in lies, and who are trying to usurp the right to present information about events in the world. Partners, when you admit to yourselves that the period of unipolarity has ended also in terms of information, too, and therefore with the question "why should we?" talk to yourself
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  1. +13
    20 October 2016 15: 15
    close all their resources and all pages on the internet. as well as radio stations. start at least with echo and golden rain
    1. +5
      20 October 2016 16: 06
      and all their radio stations in Russia.
      All that is broadcast is suppress.
      1. +6
        20 October 2016 18: 16
        This European chicken coop pisses me off already ....

        Wait for the feathers to fly again ...
        1. +2
          21 October 2016 04: 55
          Folk words
          Here is a BIRD of light ----- a gray-winged plane !!!!
          He flies proudly to heaven soaring.
          Here guests drunk ---- did not like the pilot ....
          Well, honestly the word ----- it is better to ride a tram !!!!
          1. +3
            21 October 2016 11: 29
            close all their resources and all pages on the Internet

            McDonald's could not be closed, where would they want to "a free and independent press." There was also an initiative to prohibit copyright in relation to Western products, and in fact a sensible initiative, but all by.
            1. 0
              24 October 2016 19: 26
              to ban copyright in relation to Western products and a sound initiative


              far from a fact. too much foreign software. in the same factories and machine tools. in the same construction and industrial design.

              Software can be cracked by the user - but how to design skyscrapers-plants-and so on on cracked software is a question

              and to whom to present for bugs is also a question. and how much to wait for the cracked update at a critical moment

              + This is not a one-way game. We catch the answer.

              There would be analogues ... They certainly are - but ...

              On the same RT - all equipment is west - video - west - audio - west. VGTRK think differently?

              In general, it may come that the current "sanctions" and the shutdown of the swift will seem like trifles. And to bypass all the prohibitions - the budget is not enough, to overpay for equipment to a chain of intermediaries.

    2. +1
      24 October 2016 15: 06
      The more the West talks about Russia as an aggressor, the more attention is paid to it. Time works for us, and Russophobic foam will come down. It has always been that way.
  2. +5
    20 October 2016 15: 20
    Not when they are not recognized. I can’t ..
  3. +20
    20 October 2016 15: 31
    But we (Russia) are not silent, and are not going to be silent anymore.

    Unfortunately, we are only going to "not be silent" for now. It would be time to answer those who are too presumptuous with deeds.
    Listening to the next unproven accusation against Russia, I think about it once again - why not step on these scribblers to the most painful place, to the wallet? To sue for the publication of information defaming, etc. etc. and, besides the requirement to publish a refutation, to institute a claim for moral damage. Yes, more.
    Or the state cannot come forward with such a claim, only a private person?
    Then, as a citizen of Russia, I am ready to file such a lawsuit, since unjustifiably accusing my state of liars thereby accuses me.
    Are there international lawyers on the site to evaluate the possibility of such actions?
    Collective actions are very popular in the West. So we can arrange.
    1. +14
      20 October 2016 15: 53
      Then, as a Russian citizen, I’m ready to file such a lawsuit,

      I can’t financially support the filing of the claim, but I will subscribe too. hi
    2. +4
      20 October 2016 16: 55
      Quote: Rostislav
      To sue for the publication of information defaming, etc. etc. and, besides the requirement to publish a refutation, to institute a claim for moral damage. Yes, more.
      Or the state cannot come forward with such a claim, only a private person?

      There is such a thing as a judicial perspective. So in this case, the probability of a court verdict (and it should be international, that is, including them) in our favor tends to zero. But frightening with unpromising lawsuits is not very appropriate for a serious state; our neighbors like to do this.
  4. +6
    20 October 2016 15: 35
    I haven’t seen it in my life so that people jump on a rake so selflessly while spreading their legs wider!
    1. +3
      20 October 2016 16: 29
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      I haven’t seen it in my life so that people jump on a rake so selflessly while spreading their legs wider!

      When the most "democratic democrat" forces them to do something, they will not study it!
      1. +2
        20 October 2016 18: 54
        I remembered: "... we cried, injected, but continued to chew the cactus." wassat
    2. +1
      20 October 2016 23: 39
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      I haven’t seen it in my life so that people jump on a rake so selflessly while spreading their legs wider!

      Where do you see people? This is the European official at the top with a device for wearing a headgear and an apparatus for tongue and the reception of energy resources, and from the bottom the seizure of the bureaucratic chair, to which the bureaucrat is confined to his whole sweet life of doing nothing.
  5. +2
    20 October 2016 16: 44
    M-yes ... this resolution on countering “Russian propaganda” painfully reminiscent of the performances of the "old guard" of the CPSU during perestroika. These also believed that all the troubles were from the journalists: if the journalists did not write about the shortcomings, then there would be no shortcomings.
  6. +8
    20 October 2016 17: 43
    I sometimes (and more and more often lately) have the impression that at the top we have either pure schizoids, creeping in front of the West and not afraid of sending the West directly and openly in 3 letters and leading their own, beneficial only Russia policy, but even fart quietly without the approval of the West, or the hidden traitors of Russia, like Mechny and Borka B., who gradually but steadily lead the country to collapse and surrender to the bourgeoisie.

    Although lately we have been increasingly (at the suggestion of Putin) confronting the Americans and their hangers-on, but there are so many of us in the Government and near-government structures who have considerable accounts in the West and children study and live there, which means from the West there is always the opportunity to work through them on our country.

    It is high time for Putin to reformat this corrupt bureaucratic zoo and expel such creatures from important government posts, and replace them with skilled and loyal Russian specialists. Otherwise, we will gradually give up our positions, making excuses before "enlightened Europe" for all our deeds that are being done now for the good of Russia ...

    I don’t think that Putin doesn’t see this, doesn’t see how these creatures sell the country, so why then appoint the notorious omnipotent and ardent Westerners to high posts? The riddle ....

    Although today the only hope for saving Russia at this time is only Putin, Shoigu, their politics and our armed forces.
    There wouldn’t be them, there would be a tryndets country ...
  7. +5
    20 October 2016 18: 14
    Something our corresponding so-called "sway" for a long time. "competent authorities" in relation to the Western "trash-talkers" who are openly hostile to Russia and our citizens! It's time to put things in order with this husk, otherwise even the ignorant are surprised by the inactivity of our powers that be against these screamers in the style of "why are we ..."!
    1. 0
      22 October 2016 20: 38
      Unfortunately, the tradition of only responding, and not anticipating events, is irresistible in our country. Like slowly swinging.
      Also surprising is the attempt to be honest and decent while sitting at a table with cheaters. You try to play chess, and they are with boxing gloves.
      It’s time to stop this fatigue.
      But I think the reasons here are primarily internal, not from the lack of resources in Russia, but from what is happening in the power structures of Russia and who "plays the music" there.
      They said rightly here that before getting involved in a fight you need to have a strong rear. Stalin understood this well.
      So putting order in the power structures of the country is the most important task.
      With great respect for everyone, "pro-Russian troll", Boris. soldier
  8. +3
    20 October 2016 18: 46
    it's time to close this gadyushnik echo and rain with all their blogs and radio
    1. +1
      21 October 2016 00: 07
      Quote: Taygerus
      it's time to close this gadyushnik echo and rain with all their blogs and radio

      To do this, in order to close the gadyushniks, a person is needed at the head of the state, equal in scale and determination to Stalin, who will first "clean" the state apparatus of thieves and henchmen of the West, but she is not there, and, unfortunately, is not expected in the near future. Putin, for all his intentions and gestures in politics, remains 90% adherent of liberal ideas with all the ensuing consequences for the country.
  9. +3
    20 October 2016 18: 49
    Quote: vkl.47
    close all their resources and all pages on the internet. as well as radio stations. start at least with echo and golden rain

    Yeah ... dream. This in China can be put on "political correctness", and "ours" - just "weak" probably. be afraid of Western public opinion.
  10. 0
    20 October 2016 19: 26
    We, you see, should not say anything about how hundreds of thousands of migrants, after the destructive NATO expansion in the Middle East, storm the borders of the EU.

    Ai-ai-ai, apparently, the author does not know that joy is also silent, without words and conversations ...
    Yes, let them storm ourselves, and we - we should not say anything about this, which is right!
  11. 0
    20 October 2016 21: 48
    And what actually happened? What's new in this circus, the program was changed, the full house - Y. Nikulin was resurrected (great kingdom of heaven) ... Sorry, but I won’t go into this big top, it's not funny!
  12. 0
    20 October 2016 21: 56
    Quote: sub307
    This in China can be put on "political correctness", and "ours" - just "weak" probably. be afraid of Western public opinion.

    Why think so primitively, let's immediately calibrate with "Calibers" (for a long time this phrase was not on VO). No matter how much Kiev pooped on anyone, they put it on it, all for a long time. Note, EVERYTHING !!!
  13. 0
    20 October 2016 22: 11
    "You can do any dirty trick to anyone, the main thing is to be the first to blame Russia for it" - this is the principle that our sworn "partners" have lived for for centuries ... Let someone try to convince me that Russia has ever created "iron the curtain".
  14. 0
    20 October 2016 22: 28
    all this always reminds me of an unforgettable phrase from Port Arthur Stepanov - You need to protest here with gun fire ...
    Mirroring may be good, but the possibilities are incomparable. But even that is impossible. We are already part of their system without a chance to go out or act differently. used to be a word-asymmetric. And now it’s already mirrored .. the corridor of possibilities is apparently reduced. Soon we will ask for at least something. True, everything is in order on the TV. The refrigerator has not yet been able to defeat him.
    Even mirrored. The foreign channel will be banned. Will the Russian Federation benefit from this? No. But the world will know that the Russian Federation also has its freedom of speech once again "lame". And they will gladly give an example of a ban, but in Russia they will forget it on the second day. Well closed some sort of SNN.
    In general, start with the Discovery of the Animal of the Planets (although I would love to prohibit Nikolodian - this is an excellent tool for stupid children at the initial stage, but I would leave the discovery) - it will be interesting.
    In summary, the corridor of mirror measures is narrow. Inside, propaganda manages without closures. And the external one will suffer. Maybe it’s better to return to asymmetric ones? (I'm not talking about buying treasuries or building loans to other countries and debt forgiveness)
  15. +1
    20 October 2016 22: 38
    It is high time to call a spade a spade, stop forgiving the vileness and outright lies about Russia of Western correspondents accredited in our country. And with our anti-Russian media like "echo, rain and others", it is high time to figure out what means they live on and who pays.
  16. 0
    20 October 2016 23: 07
    Gee gee gee! With whom you will lead (koklostan), that’s why you’ll pick up (and what for us?).
  17. 0
    22 October 2016 19: 31
    Well, after all, a lot of revelations of fakes and fraud of the Western media have already been accumulated, it may already really come on yay ... that is. the wallet of such media has brought claims for false charges and demand their closure or impose a large fine. The money won should be used to maintain the same RT. Maybe then they will be more restrained in language !? hi
  18. 0
    22 October 2016 19: 32
    Quote: Rostislav
    Unfortunately, we are only going to "not be silent" for now. It would be time to answer those who are too presumptuous with deeds.
    Listening to the next unproven accusation against Russia, I think about it once again - why not step on these scribblers to the most painful place, to the wallet? To sue for the publication of information defaming, etc. etc. and, besides the requirement to publish a refutation, to institute a claim for moral damage. Yes, more.

    ----------------------------
    It is enough that the enemy voices again sound as if with a member in the mouth from under the crackle of jammers.
  19. 0
    22 October 2016 22: 17
    The Western media, as well as the leaders of the countries of Merkel, Hollande, etc., in all paragraphs lose in their lies and their arguments are absurd. I’m silent about the UN, it’s like Ali Baba and forty robbers, where in the role of Ali Baba there is one Russia and everything in the UN is forty robbers. Not wanting to see their rotten reality, they suck out allegedly all the sins of Russia from their fingers, forgetting that they are the cause of all the unrest in Bl. East. Losing our channel RT dry, they went to unprecedented measures. Hypocrisy and silence about their mistakes, or rather crimes, raise many questions among the sober-minded inhabitants of Europe. However, the theater of absurdity in the face under the direction of the chief puppeteer of the USA. By the way, today the US forces bombed a mourning ceremony in Iraq, and silence! Do this our VKS, the screech would be unearthly, and they get away with it and not the first time.
  20. 0
    23 October 2016 13: 38
    When a major media broadcasting in Russian in Russian allows itself similar materials with completely unsubstantiated accusations and statements issued as the ultimate truth


    I don’t understand, why are we still suffering all this?
    Expel at least one thing, shut off oxygen, let others scratch their heads and think!
  21. 0
    23 October 2016 13: 40
    Quote: esaul1950
    with our anti-Russian media like "echo, rain and others", it's high time to figure it out

    Yes exactly! They have already become infinitely insolent from impunity! The ears just wither and the eyes do not look at their "products" negative
  22. 0
    23 October 2016 13: 46
    Quote: Retvizan
    Will the Russian Federation benefit from this? No. But the world will know that the Russian Federation also has its freedom of speech once again "lame". And they will gladly give an example of a ban.

    Does it mean that we are now sort of "winning"? - Its value is doubtful! request
  23. 0
    24 October 2016 16: 27
    Late.
    All "when", it was necessary to act, Right now they began to remember the current, but this is already a lot Ahead of the whole life, we will have time to play back. BUT HOW MUCH HAS BEEN DELIVERED (why are we for winter quarters, maybe the commanders ...) Couldn't?

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