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Russia reiterated the need for the separation of opposition and terrorists in Syria

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The Russian Permanent Mission distributed to the UN Security Council a draft statement on the need to separate the opposition forces from terrorist groups, reports RIA News.


Russia reiterated the need for the separation of opposition and terrorists in Syria


Russian Permanent Representative Vitaly Churkin noted that earlier “an important statement was made in Moscow” on the suspension of air strikes in Aleppo.

“We believe that in these conditions it is extremely important for member states that have influence on armed opposition groups in eastern Aleppo and beyond, to intensify efforts to quickly separate all" moderate "opposition forces from the terrorists identified by the UN Security Council. We also believe that it is very important for all parties to prevent access of financial and material support to individuals and groups, associations associated with terrorist groups defined by the UN Security Council ", - said Churkin.

According to him, Russia "insists that all parties stop cooperating with the terrorists, separate from them and formally sign the cease-fire regime."

“We have prepared a draft statement in this regard, we hope it will be adopted by the members of the Council,” the Permanent Representative said.

He noted that “the air strikes were stopped before the start of the humanitarian pause” and expressed the hope that the countries close to the opposition “will convince them to make the right choice”.

“Either they leave the city, or they will separate from Nusra and re-subscribe to the cease-fire regime. But something needs to be done with Nusroy. First, the “moderates” (groups) need to be separated from her, and then Nusra will have to leave the city, or it will face some unpleasant consequences, ”Churkin emphasized.

He also said that work on the separation of the “moderates” and “Dzhebhat an-Nusra” will continue on Wednesday in Geneva “at least on the map”, and some countries promised to take part in this work.

“I hope that they will continue to act in the spirit of Lausanne,” added the Permanent Representative.
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AP Photo / John Minchillo
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  1. volot-voin
    volot-voin 19 October 2016 09: 32
    +7
    Not just separating one terrorist from another. It’s better to bury good terrorists right away in good coffins, and bad ones in bad ones.
    1. hirurg
      hirurg 19 October 2016 09: 39
      +2
      Not just separating one terrorist from another. It’s better to bury good terrorists right away in good coffins, and bad ones in bad ones.
      Most likely it will.
      However, you need to continue to persistently convey your point of view wherever possible.
      That's why she is diplomacy.
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 19 October 2016 09: 47
      +14
      The Russian Permanent Mission circulated to the UN Security Council a draft statement on the need to separate opposition forces from terrorist groups,

      The ceasefire of September 9 did not teach anything? Again the old rake? Tired of it already. negative
      1. dmi.pris1
        dmi.pris1 19 October 2016 09: 50
        +6
        Whom to separate from whom? They are all oiled in one world. In fact, the position of our leadership is strange .. Let’s do everything ..
        1. dumpy15
          dumpy15 19 October 2016 10: 05
          +1
          No one is doing anything. This is nothing more than the figures of the speech of diplomats.
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 19 October 2016 13: 21
          0
          Quote: dmi.pris
          Whom to separate from whom? They are all oiled in one world. In fact, the position of our leadership is strange .. Let’s do everything ..

          Yes, as if not being fought.
          The "withdrawal" of the barmaley under the auspices of the UN, and in fact the evacuation of the mattress covers, gives the RF Ministry of Defense reason to believe that the "moderate", about whom the United States was so concerned, left Aleppo.
          For its part, the Russian Federation provided humanitarian corridors and allowed it to go out with weapons.
          Now, let them not ask for mattresses, those who remained in Aleppo under the concept of "moderate" will definitely not fall and will be destroyed. The mattresses will have nothing to say.
        3. g1v2
          g1v2 19 October 2016 16: 27
          0
          There is nothing strange. Our diplomats are working for the Jaysh al Fatah split. Its skeleton is nusra. All these mantras about the moderates and the immoderate are the insistence on separating nusra from jaysh al fath and stop supplying it with everyone else. If this happens, Jaysh al Fatah will fall apart, because Nusra is his skeleton and the main striking force. The remaining groupings will not be capable of joint actions and will fall one by one. Even ahrar ash shamu cannot be pulled to take the place of nusra. Plus, ours are doing the same with the Turks - they demand the separation of pro-Turkish groups such as the brigade of Sultan Murad from the Jaysh al-Fath. There seems to be progress. In any case, the pro-Turkish militants, instead of breaking through the encirclement of Aleppo, are fighting with the Yig and Kurds in the north near the Turkish border, although these 2-3 thousand militants would clearly not interfere with Jaysh al Fatah near Aleppo. Tch our diplomats are working on a specific practical task - to split the Jaysh al-Fatah coalition, and not "fall for anything." hi
        4. Irbenwolf
          Irbenwolf 20 October 2016 08: 04
          0
          In order to be diplomatically justified to break everyone, it is necessary to shout for a long time that they are ready and agree to dissociate, and when they break (everyone), shrug their shoulders and say that "they themselves did not want to dissociate."
      2. Pasha
        Pasha 19 October 2016 15: 40
        0
        No truce taught!
        But the attacks in Paris and Germany did not teach.
    3. Vend
      Vend 19 October 2016 09: 48
      +1
      Quote: volot-voin
      Not just separating one terrorist from another. It’s better to bury good terrorists right away in good coffins, and bad ones in bad ones.

      Well, the enemy must be known in person and preferably with a photograph m by name. For this, you can separate and freely release. They’ll take a pencil, and then they won’t let it out of sight
    4. Finches
      Finches 19 October 2016 09: 48
      +5
      Yes, you need to wet everyone ... in the toilet! Today the concept of "oppositionist" is identical to the word "terrorist"! And not only in Syria .......
    5. kaserog
      kaserog 19 October 2016 10: 14
      0
      it’s better to bury bad terrorists in bad pig skins and good in good pigs winked
    6. stas
      stas 19 October 2016 10: 44
      +1
      You can put them together in one pit without coffins.
      1. svp67
        svp67 19 October 2016 10: 52
        0
        Quote: stas
        You can put them together in one pit without coffins.

        And they do not use coffins ... so they are "purple"
    7. siberalt
      siberalt 19 October 2016 11: 17
      +1
      "Disengagement of terrorists" is a turn of speech. In the case of Aleppo, everyone understands perfectly well that Russia has provided military instructors from the USA, Germany, Israel and France with the opportunity to get out of there. That's all "delimitation".
  2. EvgNik
    EvgNik 19 October 2016 09: 37
    +9
    For some reason, it seems that all this is useless. There are no "moderates", there are government troops and there is ISIS (banned in Russia). Everything else is from the evil one ..
  3. Goodman
    Goodman 19 October 2016 09: 42
    +9
    The IS will win, and the moderate opposition of the SSA, which everyone recognized as the opposition, will continue to fight against Assad. Everyone knows that SSA is supported in the West, namely the USA. What's next? Afghan 2? The economy must be raised!
    1. hirurg
      hirurg 19 October 2016 09: 48
      +8
      Well, you definitely know better from Holland. Especially from sea level.
      1. Goodman
        Goodman 19 October 2016 09: 52
        +2
        Which Holland? Tor browser to help.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 19 October 2016 09: 57
          +5
          Quote: Goodman
          Which Holland? Tor browser to help.

          It’s banned, it uses the TOP
          1. Goodman
            Goodman 19 October 2016 10: 19
            0
            Yarovaya package will explain everything. Or have not heard of this?
            1. Voyager
              Voyager 20 October 2016 10: 42
              0
              Is there anything to hide?
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 19 October 2016 09: 53
      +1
      The question is the number of opponents and their quality. IG - mass comrades and with ideology. SSA mercenaries. It’s difficult to fight with all at once, and with open borders it is even more difficult. Syria no longer has a threat to the no-fly zone, and this facilitates the task, borders, it is 50% success. And the rest is questions of Syria itself.
      1. Goodman
        Goodman 19 October 2016 10: 00
        0
        IG was never massive, unlike SSA. Assad’s army was already on the verge of intervention by the air forces. If the United States and the West do not stop supporting the SSA (which is unlikely), then the war is there until Assad runs out of soldiers (and this is a couple of years, or maybe earlier). What's next? Afghan 2?
        1. dumpy15
          dumpy15 19 October 2016 10: 32
          +1
          Ask your black Barak why your exceptional in Afghanistan have been sitting on blocks for 15 years, and what will they do with Vietnam-2?
        2. vovanpain
          vovanpain 19 October 2016 10: 38
          +7
          Quote: Goodman
          IG has never been massive,

          fool
          Quote: Goodman
          then the war is there until Assad runs out of soldiers (and this is in a couple of years, or maybe earlier

          Twice fool
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 19 October 2016 09: 56
      +5
      Quote: Goodman
      The economy must be raised!

      Well go and work
      1. Goodman
        Goodman 19 October 2016 10: 18
        0
        Millions work like me. But what's the point? Excise taxes on alcohol are being reduced instead of being raised, alcohol will be sold in schools from 2017, here is their answer - However, the point of the explanation is that alcohol can only be sold on premises that are no longer owned by hospitals or schools.
        I will ask a question. I work, and then what? Give at least 1 example that you began to live better? At least one!
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 19 October 2016 10: 27
          +12
          Quote: Goodman
          I work, and then what?

          Where? On the couch in front of the monitor? Blah blah blah blah language? This dearly turns out fine for you, but you are not capable of more, ordinary plankton, which cannot drive a nail into the wall. tongue
          1. gg.na
            gg.na 19 October 2016 11: 54
            +2
            Quote: vovanpain
            but you are not capable of anything more, ordinary plankton, which cannot drive a nail into the wall.

            These are such "little people" who are offended wassat they are God crippled wretched geeks lol which can yap in tyrnet laughing for the greater such misery is not enough !!! bully
        2. dumpy15
          dumpy15 19 October 2016 10: 29
          +5
          What did Russian schoolchildren stop you from doing? Or throw pictures of the minced meat from the students of your exclusive Empire of good?
          1. Alexanast
            Alexanast 19 October 2016 11: 14
            +8
            What did Russian schoolchildren stop you from doing


            Especially drink soda !!!
        3. The comment was deleted.
        4. svp67
          svp67 19 October 2016 10: 56
          +2
          Quote: Goodman
          I will ask a question. I work, and then what? Give at least 1 example that you began to live better? At least one!

          Listen where do you live? Judging by HOW MANY expensive cars appeared in my city, THIS year of production, I can say that there are at least several hundred such examples, and this is not in Moscow, but in the provinces, about the existence of which in the "capital" many have indirect knowledge ...
        5. gg.na
          gg.na 19 October 2016 11: 59
          0
          You children what angry interfere with life ?! Yes, you are Ksenia Sobchak ?! I am her lol I mean, I call you a dog wassat and generally wants to give this dog a drop of nicotine bully !!!
        6. volot-voin
          volot-voin 20 October 2016 10: 09
          0
          Quote: Goodman

          I will ask a question. I work, and then what? Give at least 1 example that you began to live better? At least one

          There are a lot of examples. A bunch of elite foreign cars are stuck in traffic jams in the mornings and evenings. If you spit, you will get into a Gelik or Kruzak. It becomes disgusting, especially when you drive a budget model. Of course, you won't allow anything superfluous, but we also do not swell from hunger (with the 20s and 30s, ... or even with the 90s). At the expense of pictures with schoolchildren drinking champagne - you yourself have never studied in high school? When schoolchildren want to be adults, forbid, forbid, but they will still carry "shampoos" or whatever to discache, of course it's not great, you have to fight with this, but it happens. And today someone else will take a picture and put it in contact ... You need to sort it out and fight like a phenomenon, but somewhere there will always be something. I agree that there are many problems in the country, and the rulers are not ideal - but this is all better than being conquered, remember the puppet Yeltsin government. And the enemy certainly will not pity us and will arrange genocide such that Hitler will seem like a boy.
    4. AVA77
      AVA77 19 October 2016 09: 58
      +3
      Registered October 18, 2016
    5. Finches
      Finches 19 October 2016 10: 02
      +3
      Goodman is who ... ????
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 19 October 2016 10: 05
        +7
        Quote: Finches
        Goodman is who ... ????

        Normal troll, previously banned 555 times
        1. Finches
          Finches 19 October 2016 10: 08
          +7
          Thank you Alexander! hi
          Apparently you need to repeat the procedure!
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 19 October 2016 10: 14
            +7
            Quote: Finches
            Apparently you need to repeat the procedure!

            Only this will help in his case. Otherwise, you will not brainwash him.
            1. Finches
              Finches 19 October 2016 10: 19
              +5
              Explanatory recipe! Enema can be more ... laughing
              1. Simpsonian
                Simpsonian 19 October 2016 11: 53
                0
                more for atalef
    6. APASUS
      APASUS 19 October 2016 11: 32
      +2
      Quote: Goodman
      The economy must be raised!

      The wise men have already gotten with their photos.
      Look at London with different eyes
      1. atalef
        atalef 19 October 2016 11: 36
        0
        Quote: APASUS
        Quote: Goodman
        The economy must be raised!

        The wise men have already gotten with their photos.
        Look at London with different eyes

        really is it
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 19 October 2016 12: 12
          0
          Quote: atalef
          really is it

          Yes, this is not the case at all. In any city in the world you can find a hut, a bunch of garbage and position it as a normal kind of city. In Calais, people live in cardboard boxes and what? And what is Italy?
        2. padded jacket
          padded jacket 19 October 2016 12: 25
          0
          Quote: atalef
          really is it

          For example, Tel Aviv is the capital of the Israeli regime lol
    7. Irbenwolf
      Irbenwolf 20 October 2016 08: 13
      +1
      A little exactly the same nadybat from the United States, Germany, France and other NATO? Do you want me to bring you such photos from Latvia?

      PS If I remember correctly, they are declared a miserable relic of the USSR (with all their thin walls). And I would not refuse now from Khrushchovochka at the expense of the state for "working out workdays in harmful work."

      If you wanted capitalism, chew and don’t need these photos with chernukha and hopelessness, trying to play on emotions.
  4. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 19 October 2016 09: 48
    0
    I feel that they will gather everyone in Idlib and bang a big bomb with 10-12 tons of IL-76 from ILAB. And take pictures from different angles in 4K resolution.
  5. Wolverine
    Wolverine 19 October 2016 09: 54
    +1
    My head is already boiling from this demarcation, how much can I get on this tripper?
  6. lysyj bob
    lysyj bob 19 October 2016 09: 55
    0
    Why separate them at all? Our VKS operate in Syria at the request of the LEGALLY elected government of a sovereign state, and are engaged in the destruction of villains who, with weapons in their hands, threaten the country's sovereignty and destroy the civilian population. What the fuck does it matter what ideas they preach? !!! They cannot be moderate or not moderate. Anyone who fights with arms against the state and people is an enemy! And it is customary to destroy the enemy. Those who want peace in Syria are fighting on the side of Assad. For the rest, the term "opposition" is just a convenient screen. Therefore, it is necessary to separate them according to a different principle - on this side of the front the good ones, on the other side - the bad ones. After several demonstrative demonstrations of this principle, the whole world will see how the speed of fulfillment of amerskoy obligations to divide into "friends" and "aliens" will increase. Or they will prefer to merge in order to save a little face in front of the world community.
  7. AlexTires
    AlexTires 19 October 2016 09: 57
    0
    All these diplomatic attempts, together with pauses in the bombing, lead to the fact that the Syrian army has to shed even more blood, gnawing at the fortified defenses of the militants ... Maybe it’s time to stop talking with non-negotiable, all the same, we will be branded bombing civilians whose fate in the West is uninteresting?
  8. Masya masya
    Masya masya 19 October 2016 10: 06
    +6
    Let the pathologist understand ... Hu from hu ... wink
  9. Gardamir
    Gardamir 19 October 2016 10: 09
    +1
    about the need to separate opposition forces from terrorist groups,
    that is, is there a difference between them?
    Does anyone in the Kremlin understand the difference between Sunnis and Shiites? For example, the Sunni Chechens, and Bashar al-Assad is Shiite and not just a Shiite, but an Alawite. Now the question is, when Kadyrov is "torn" to Syria, why will he fight ISIS, where there are mainly Sunnis?
  10. PValery53
    PValery53 19 October 2016 10: 26
    +1
    The incentive for "delimiting the opposition and terrorists" is the systematic "reduction" of their numbers with the help of the Syrian army and our Aerospace Forces.
  11. Taygerus
    Taygerus 19 October 2016 10: 29
    0
    our VKS are best divided in all the world into spare parts for all terrorists, both moderate and not moderate, they have one road to the sand and die sooner or later, and the FSA there are really no Syrians, PMCs and rabble
  12. Erg
    Erg 19 October 2016 10: 34
    +1
    The situation is "comical". We are friends with Turkey, Turkey is friends with terrorists ...
  13. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 19 October 2016 11: 44
    +2
    This "separation" has already dragged on for a year. And so far, the benefits of such negotiations are only for terrorists (the United States is happily rubbing its hands).
  14. Evgen2x
    Evgen2x 19 October 2016 13: 06
    0
    Good terrorists from bad terrorists ???? Well, how much can you already ??? They will not appreciate, in general !!!! Anyway, Russia will be bad!
  15. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 19 October 2016 13: 19
    +1
    They all shout to Allah Akbar, while killing people. So we must send them to Allah more often, let him judge whether it is possible to kill people with the name of God or not.