Everyone! Everyone! Everyone!

Dear members of the Military Review!

It is not a secret for anybody that lately from all over Europe, America, Scandinavian countries, to a greater or lesser extent, attacks on Russia, on the Russian people. These countries and their special services, the countries of the former USSR and the CIS, are not left without attention. And the end result of these gentlemen, although they deserve a different attitude and “name”, will plunge Planet Earth into a new round of World War. All methods of their dirty work are used for this.

The time was gone when the opponent was open, they threw a glove in his face and called him to a duel! Such concepts are gone, in all likelihood history and, unfortunately, forever. Currently, overseas financial sharks and bigwigs of the shadow business are holding their puppeteers, represented by their presidents and heads of state on a short leash. And they do not stint on any financial investments for carrying out their policy. And such states as the Baltic countries, Poland and Ukraine that joined them are a bargaining chip among these marginals. Perform any of their orders, including the outbreak of military conflicts that will escalate into war.

And last but not least, and perhaps at the forefront of the world media stand, which are fed from the same hands. They go to sophisticated publications, fakie, information, juggling and shuffling of facts, calculated on people far from politics, on instigators, go on the usual lies. And all this for the good of "their democracy", their "exclusivity and security." Both editors of world newspapers are bribed, as well as reporters, correspondents and just people who have the opportunity to “earn”.

Not the last place in the VO materials is given to events in Syria, Iran, Iraq and other countries of the Middle East. We all have the opportunity to see, read what interests us. Everyone has their own point of view on information, and the possibility of expressing their opinion on a particular fact, not contradicting the Law on Mass Media and the Rules of the VO website. The site administration, moderators pay a lot of attention to cleanliness and compliance with the Rules.

Everyone sees the attitude of each registered on the site through their posts, publications. And the overwhelming majority of the members of the forum treats the events in the world as normal patriots of their state - Russia. And the latest publications about the events in the Donbass, the murder of Motorola were perceived with pain in the soul and hatred of this crime. Quite understandable and comments on this event. This is the pain of losing a person who has become a defense of people. The pain of something that has not yet been achieved, such as the freedom of the entire Donbass from ukronatsistov and their masters, from the still far-away peaceful and tranquil life on this long-suffering land. There is no doubt that peace and tranquility will come to this land, but it will be worth a tremendous loss.

But popped up on the forum "newly registered", such as
Anenerbe 2.0 Today, 01: 46

Givi get ready ....

Quote: 112233
are you guys serious? He is a terrorist that raised people against the country?

I ask everyone and I urge - let us be vigilant ourselves, and at least on the forum, finish these obviously not worrying about the death of a person, and moreover, mocked. You can call them by everyone: trolls, "swamps", etc. But they have one goal and is understandable - to shake our society. Request and to administration site. When such “patriots” are found, and they can be seen immediately after several posts, remove and stop their further propaganda. Such complain, and even more so will not sue. I believe that the forum IN will only be "FOR!"

I know that they will find other methods and ways to get into the media and there are some. But let them TAM sing their Goebbels songs, let it be THEIR "cesspool of wolf pit", and there they have a place.

Comments

[Tatar 174]

There is no motorola ... Since yesterday, for any caring person, this event has become like a heavy stone that has been put on the soul and which can no longer be dropped. These are not just words, but indeed they are, I have been walking for XNUMX hours as if I had lost a loved one, although I did not know him and did not know him, although I was a fellow countryman. I grieve and hope that the geeks who did this will necessarily suffer an adequate punishment. I ask you not to put pluses, not for this I wrote. I support the sheriff.

[Rozmyssel]

It is no secret to anyone that recently, from all over Europe, America, the Scandinavian countries, to a greater or lesser extent, there have been attacks on Russia, on the Russian people.

attacks do not go to the Russian people, but to Putin and the foreign policy pursued by him, Putin’s policy and the Russian people are different categories, although Syria’s support is right. It’s not right to drag out the war, for example, it’s not clear why it was necessary to withdraw the aircraft, then introduce it again? as for the Donbass, this war could have been crossed at the beginning if Russia had sent troops to the Donbass, like the Crimea, and now there are half-gang governments and civilians are constantly dying and there is no end to this war, which means it’s beneficial for someone to have a war constant.

[gorgo]

That is, you want to say that those comrades that the author speaks about, those in the West, they criticize only Comrade Putin and precisely because he did not bring troops to the Donbass at one time? Hmm ... An interesting thought ...

[Rozmyssel]

Quote: gorgo

Oh, that he did not introduce troops to the Donbass at one time? Hmm ... An interesting thought ...

not that they criticize the West for Crimea and Syria, but for Donbas Putin I criticize the Russian people and me.

[Alex_1973]

not that they criticize the West for Crimea and Syria, but for Donbas Putin I criticize the Russian people and me.

And do not take much on yourself, speak on behalf of the Russian people, mattress pad? The article is about people like you.

[Rozmyssel]

Quote: Alex_1973

And do not take much on yourself, speak on behalf of the Russian people, mattress pad? The article is about people like you.

cardboard fool, cover your mouth ...

[Alex_1973]

Thinking Today, 10:42 PM ↑
cardboard fool, cover your mouth ...

So you gave yourself a troll, the topic is just about people like you. I don’t want to slide down to the hohlosrach, but for such words in ordinary life they beat you in the snout, but the answer will not come from the monitor, so you can “safely” write what you want , isn't it a sofa warrior?

[Rozmyssel]

Quote: Alex_1973

the topic is just about people like you.

no, for people like you.

Quote: Alex_1973

but for such words in ordinary life they’ll hit the snout,

Well, knock on the screen, it will become easier.

Quote: Alex_1973

true war war?

непрР° РІРґР °.

[Vend]

Quote: gorgo

That is, you want to say that those comrades that the author speaks about, those in the West, they criticize only Comrade Putin and precisely because he did not bring troops to the Donbass at one time? Hmm ... An interesting thought ...

What surprises you? If troops were introduced, then all US propaganda would be justified. The United States would receive its enemy and continue to fatten. And so they have to rack their brains to stay in power. And more and more they are making mistakes, making it clear who the main villain is.

[Rozmyssel]

Quote: Wend

And so they have to rack their brains to stay in power.

and what they "break their heads" criticize and impose sanctions for the Crimea, so what's the difference Crimea, Donbass?

[Vend]

Quote: Thought

Quote: Wend

And so they have to rack their brains to stay in power.

and what they "break their heads" criticize and impose sanctions for the Crimea, so what's the difference Crimea, Donbass?

Well, yes, and tore the Russian economy to shreds Nupryamo Russia bent over from these sanctions

[Akuzenka]

Of course they do. They need a war. And the "bad" Putin still does not want to sacrifice the Russians.

[Serg65]

But the forum "re-registered", such as
Anenerbe 2.0 Today, 01: 46

Quote: Thought

attacks are not against the Russian people, but against Putin and his foreign policy, Putin’s policy and the Russian people are different categories

Ie the Russian people are sleeping and see how to get rid of Putin (namely from Putin)

Quote: Thought

The same applies to the Donbas, this war could have been crossed at the beginning if Russia had sent troops to the Donbass, as to the Crimea, and now there half-gang governments and peaceful people are constantly dying and the end of this war is not visible, which means it is beneficial to someone that the war be permanent.

That is, the Russian Federation, the joy of the United States was to attack Ukraine, which Rosmysle seeks

Quote: Thought

For Donbas Putin I criticize the Russian people and I

And what do you have to do with the Russian people?

[Rozmyssel]

Quote: Serg65

Ie the Russian people are sleeping and see how to get rid of Putin (namely from Putin)

fox fancy of speculation raced. No, not i.e.

Quote: Serg65

.e RF NP the joy of the United States was to attack Ukraine, which Rosmysl seeks

It was necessary to send troops and protect the Russian people from murder, which Putin first wanted to do and even asked for participation in the Duma, and then canceled and the war and the killings of civilians began.

Quote: Serg65

And what do you have to do with the Russian people?

none of your business.

[Serg65]

Quote: Thought

It was necessary to send troops and protect the Russian people from murder, which Putin first wanted to do and even asked for participation in the Duma, and then canceled and the war and the killings of civilians began.

So what's the problem, buddy? Next year's election, run for commander-in-chief and go ahead with a saber to the top!

[Rozmyssel]

Quote: Serg65

So what's the problem, buddy? Next year's election, run for commander-in-chief and go ahead with a saber to the top!

so smart, have you tried it yourself?

[Shukshin]

Geybelshchina pulls from your comments.
Geibels propaganda broadcast that German troops were fighting with Stalin, and not with the Soviet people.

[Max_Bauder]

that's what he left last

[siberalt]

The cons were canceled, but there is a "complaint" function. It is difficult to keep track of all posts.

[Reserve officer]

Until August 20, when the old edition of the site was operating, all problems with trolls and impudent cynics were solved very simply. Quickly received gray epaulettes and dissolved in the unknown.
And now, when the system of "minuses" has been removed, it is not clear for what real reasons, the site's immune system is broken. So, comrades from the administration, I propose to return once again to the discussion of the site's self-cleaning system.

[Rozmyssel]

Quote: Reserve officer

now that the system of "minuses" has been removed, it is not clear for some real reason that the site's immune system is impaired. So, comrades from the administration, I propose to return to

that do not worry about "numerous requests" will soon be introduced again.

[muz.rzn]

Have you seen him personally? I saw when he stopped by the headquarters of the 9th regiment. In an SUV with music on. Personally, I would not carefully look for a trace of the Ukrainian special services in his death. In general, these "heroes of Novorossiya" are tired. Like Babai. And others. They do not remember ordinary Russian militia soldiers, but they honor everyone ... Who was there, will agree with me.

[izya top]

If such "patriots" are discovered, and they can be seen immediately after several posts, delete and stop their further propaganda.

this is not our method. the enemy must know in person. let them howl, show their inferiority. people will give them an assessment, and it is unlikely to be positive.
py.sy. on the memory of Motorola

[Baikal]

The request to the site administration ... to remove and stop their further promotion

All this is fine, but the Administration for some reason VERY STRANGE For reasons, I removed the minus / plus system on the site, thus opening the way to the greenhouse existence of such commentators and left my users without any opportunity to express their position.

Bravo, Admins. You have turned the VO world into another passing aggregator.
And the outflow of comments from the site is a confirmation of this.
Well done.

[dmi.pris1]

I completely agree with you, Sheriff .. But nevertheless, people have their own opinion on events in the world. Of course, there are outright bastards, that's an example of this "annenerbe" .. But normal people also express their point opposite to the opinion of the bulk of the site. At work, my colleague struck up a dispute with me, this is what the return of Crimea gave us, he believes that this is a continuous hemorrhoid. I thought that I had an iron argument - the basing of the fleet in my homeland ... But no, he began to assert that the Black Sea Fleet had no role in military operations will not have all hope for missiles. And take into account that we live close to the Black Sea Fleet in the Kuban. And there are plenty of such opinions.

[Finches]

Absolutely right! A sufficient number of ordinary people, and even the older generation, were rather skeptical about the annexation of Crimea, wondering - "Do we need it?" And this is absolutely normal, but here you need to understand that the progressive development of society occurs only when there is a unity of interests of its significant part! In this case, the majority of Russians are "for", thus a smaller, adequate and normal part of those who disagree sincerely joins the majority, but there remains manure, which begins to oppose itself to the majority, begins to crap Vezedes, wherever possible and it is to this stratum of society that foreign guys come to form from there and agents of influence and outright traitors! As the German General Staff used to say during the First World War:"No waste! There are shots!"

[alexej123]

To clarify, this phrase belongs to Walter Nikolai, the head of Kaiser intelligence. Respectfully!

[Finches]

Thank you!

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: alexej123

To clarify, this phrase belongs to Walter Nikolai, the head of Kaiser intelligence. Respectfully!

Exactly. Personnel for whom? For making bad boys.
If you are so smart and have your own opinion, you see 1, 2, 10, 100 years ahead, and you have no patience .... Then close yourself in the kitchen with a friend and decide how to equip Russia. And don't bother people to do business. All sites are crammed, including the World War III, when, where, who with whom, the result? "Wake up, she's already coming!" "We've already lost!"
So, there is a war going on, the commander is in command, and we have a debate. And where there will be less losses and where you can get more favorable conditions for self-expression, freedom and democracy. That's right: "D. B."
Before the FDA, it was precisely such trepakas with their own opinion who ruined Russia. Before WWII, Stalin built everyone and won the war.
"So people do business, do business!" Or try in the kitchen and don't get confused by your "special".

[sa-ag]

Quote: Finches

"No waste! There are shots!"

Rather like this - "No waste, there are reserves"

[populist]

But normal people express their point opposite to the opinion of the bulk of the site.

I add that the bulk is not always right. It happens that some critically thinking individuals better understand the situation. Public consciousness is inert and often lags behind a rapidly changing environment.

[vovanpain]

Quote: populist

It happens that some critically thinking individuals better understand the situation.

Yes, yes, Mr. Populist, they, these personalities, are all so smart, and everyone else around them is a gray mass and You don’t suffer from modesty, and the forum is that everyone can express their opinion, for that they removed the minuses so that they would not be immediately stained.

[bocsman]

Quote: dmi.pris

At work, my colleague started a dispute with me, that's what the return of the Crimea gave us, he believes that this is continuous hemorrhoids.

But my colleagues and friends (except for radical nationality) all perceived the return of the Crimea as a very significant and joyful event. And not only as a strategic victory. And the fact that several million Russian people returned home!
And about your colleague I will say - a weakling. Very much his "own opinion" coincides with the opinion spread from across the ocean.
A minus, I would return the same! Let them not be anonymous and reasoned.

[Aleksander]

Quote: dmi.pris

At work, my colleague started a dispute with me, that's what the return of the Crimea gave us, he believes that it is a complete hemorrhoids. I thought that I had an iron argument-based fleet in the homeland ...

Amazing argument .....

The salvation of millions of Russian people of Crimea, the return in many ways of the lost self-esteem of the people and states are the main arguments, in my opinion.

Millions of Russian people abroad cried from happiness, from joy for Crimeans, from feelings of pride for a resurgent Russia and pride in their Russian people after 30 years of endless humiliating retreats and insults ...

That is how it was perceived outside of Russia among all Russians .......

[Dimy4]

One of the goals (if not the main one) of these mishandled Cossacks is to annoy us with their comments, so that we lose control of ourselves.

[BecmepH]

Quote: Dimy4

One of the goals (if not the main one) of these mishandled Cossacks is to annoy us with their comments, so that we lose control of ourselves.

No need to get rid of dissenters. In a dispute with them, we get more arguments in favor of the thoughts of the majority. We feel more right.

[VSZMK]

Quote: BecmepH

No need to get rid of dissenters.

Dissenters are one thing, quite another when they simply pour mud over mud! You need to get rid of these right away!

[Amurets]

Quote: BecmepH

most thoughts. We feel more right.

You just need to remember the old axiom - truth is born in a dispute.

Quote: VSZMK

Dissenters are one thing, quite another when they simply pour mud over mud! You need to get rid of these right away!

But under these words I subscribe unconditionally and risk assuming that most members of the forum, too.

[Reptiloid]

In this regard, the above ------ I think it is very bad if there is an ugly squabble in the comments, some kind of stupid criticism when the article deals with the fallen Russian Heroes !!!!!!
I came to the memorial service --- behave yourself !!!!!!!!! Say the words of regret, respect --- and shut up! If not a troll and not a "INSANE MAN".

Yesterday, in the topic "History" in an article about love during the war, someone is disrespectful to the author of the article. But it turns out that it is also disrespectful to those about whom the article is - Soviet soldiers. I kept hoping that he would come to his senses and apologize. He did not apologize.

[ruskih]

Amurets, I fully support you. Dispute and discussion is one thing, but one-time boors must get out of the site, for this the "complaint" button. I was also unpleasantly surprised by the number of people who came ...

[murriou]

In vain canceled cons. Freaks to drive under the baseboard really helped.

[Bayonet]

Quote: murriou

In vain canceled cons. Freaks to drive under the baseboard really helped.

Each side of the dispute considers its opinion correct. So who do .... d is a relative concept.

[Alex_1973]

Bayonet Today, 07:43 ↑
So who do .... d is a relative concept. request

Are you talking about yourself?

[timkoldun]

Quote: Alex_1973

Bayonet Today, 07:43 ↑
So who do .... d is a relative concept. request

Are you talking about yourself?

Zionists consider themselves GREAT, and even "chosen by God"
but they are distinguished by a tendency to provocations and the ability to enter someone else's hump in paradise ...

[0255]

Quote: murriou

In vain canceled cons. Freaks to drive under the baseboard really helped.

I myself thought so before, and it is not a sin to get minuses for my opinion. But now at least the "urya-patriots" will not neglect the skulls and ban of a person who does not share all urya-slogans.

[murriou]

Afraid of dialers - don't go to the forum

I managed to get a lot of minuses while there was such a practice, but I saw a reaction to my words, and somehow it turned out more pluses anyway.

And here zero is zero information: either no one read, or all who read didn’t care, or no one agreed.

Well and "oh, my God, how difficult it has become to call the impudent to account ..." (C)

[Jarilo]

Quote: 112233
are you guys serious? He is a terrorist that raised people against the country?

Mistake number 1: not a terrorist, because not a single terrorist act was noticed.
Mistake number 2: the people did not raise, because in political life is also not seen.

[Nmpanfil]

I read a lot on VO and Inopress, Inosmi, other analytical materials and everywhere in the comments there are people who not only express their opinion, but simply mockingly provoke other readers, causing a storm of indignation. I never reacted to such people, because they are counting on a call of indignation, anger, abuse from the interlocutors, constantly warming them. These are just empty, angry and unscrupulous people, and it seems to me a lot of honor to respond to them! And moderators occasionally can use the power ..

[kepmor]

I agree with you, but what to do with the provocateurs in the media, of whom there was a lot of divorce ?!
The freshest example ... the morning "show" on the air of "Rain" with the host, "Jewish boy" - Vitya Nabutov!
You should have heard with what sophisticated malice and malice this "mouthpiece of the liberals" ranted about Deputy Milonov's proposal to assign the name of Arseny Pavlov to one of the schools or streets in St. Petersburg!
Honestly, it even seemed to me that from all the speakers in the car "poured ... ovno mixed with poison" ... I had to urgently lower the glass and switch to the "Lighthouse"!
Many will object to me now ... they say no need to listen to all crap.
I agree ... but this station purposefully "seeded" the brains of people all over the country! And the worst thing is that its main audience is urban youth of 25-40 years old, who are "inoculated" with the vaccine of love for the West and hatred of everything Russian. Are they doing the same at the side of the Kremlin, and even with public money, all sorts of "echo motsy", "new newspapers" and other enemies?
Is this not extremism aimed at undermining state principles ???
Apparently, the authorities completely forgot that the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union did not fall under the military blows of external enemies ... two of the greatest states buried their homegrown Judas with traitors!
So what are you waiting for, sss ... Vladimir Vladimirovich ?!

[EvgNik]

The time has come when the opponent was openly thrown in the face with a glove and challenged to a duel!

remove and stop their further propaganda

On the first quote. That time has passed. The West is trying because of the corner, by deceit and bribery.
This is unlikely. For this, the minuses have been removed so that such creatures settle on the site. Which adds to his popularity in certain circles, but the best go away.

[0255]

Quote: EvgNik

This is unlikely. For this, the minuses have been removed so that such creatures settle on the site. What adds to his popularity in certain circles

Why, everyone who does not share the slogans, for example, about all sorts of imminent collapses of the United States and Ukraine, doubts # PUTINVSEHPEREGRAL, does not love the "great sun-like" Kim Jong-un - is it just a TV?

[captain]

I don’t quite agree with the author, it’s possible to remove people who have their own opinion from the site, to do it as at the Congress of the CPSU, to praise and approve. But what will it lead to? It will not work again, as in 91? We already had vigilant citizens at 37 who wrote denunciations for selfish interests.

[Alexdark]

Well, mishandled, provocative, must be removed. But not dissenters who have their own opinion. Those who will reasonably expand their position, the path it is wrong, is visible. Lovers to troll, hurt, provoke, sprinkle with bile, can be seen without a doubt, too. It’s not a sin to remove these.

[parusnik]

Quote: 112233
are you guys serious? He is a terrorist that raised people against the country?

A counter question..and those who burned people in Odessa, staged a massacre in Mariupol before the ATO..bortsuny for democracy? .. Revolutionary guides? .. Those who just beat on dwelling houses .. where there are no militias .. who are they .. .Tornado battalion..that is what kind of people .. Inhumans ..

[CONTROL]

I came across such a forum on the Internet: politforums - positioning itself as "the most-most ...". Take a look, rummage around "in the bins"! Surprise how democratic, objective, and - despite some ... - fair VO is!
(This forum is registered either by the inhabitants of Israel, or by the Israelis ... or by the Jews! ... but no, not simply ... but by the "chosen by God"!
--------------------------
As for the murder - and this is murder, moreover, political, contract ... and te teh! - somehow in the 15th we dropped in with the guys to visit him, talk about supplies ... So - how we got there, how we talked ... and all that ... conclusions - the attempt could only have been made with the participation and control of someone from the inner circle; and Arseny himself - despite the outward seeming simplicity, he is a very, very intelligent, prudent and far-sighted person (personally, I was surprised, as an old man of Soviet upbringing - a very high, apparently, level of culture; it seems - self-education ...); so I think so ... although we talked for about an hour, we resolved the issues there ... You can't go round this on a crooked goat! Yes, and the method of murder was chosen - directly pointing to the "inner circle" - to synchronize the radio explosion of the charge with the presence of a strictly defined person in the elevator - this, I must say ...

[1536]

It is possible that the exclusion of "minus" comments on the site, as they say today, is in trend, but this has deprived the forum participants of expressing their weighty opinion to the opponent. It also made it impossible to put in place those who, through naivety or ignorance, are mistaken. Of course, you can answer, but this means that you enter into polemics with, often, a notorious scoundrel, making him equal to yourself. Then, sometimes, the discussion takes the form of a justifying dialogue on your part. And the troll, he did his job, destabilized the situation, and is silent.
There will be no polemics or discussions in the concentration camps that are prepared on the territory of Ukraine and are waiting in the wings! And the fact that society began to sway, flood large cities with rabble, marginalize the population, putting notorious "dissenting" and "swamp" people in power at the local level, they make disgruntled dough out of people so that it splashes out of the dough outside at "a certain day and hour." , as J. Biden says, this is an indisputable fact. Getting ready? To what? It is necessary to end with "Tolstoyism" before it is too late.

[Bayonet]

Quote: 1536

the exclusion of "minus" comments on the site, as they say today, is in trend, but this deprived the forum participants from expressing their weighty opinion to the opponent.

Rather, it made it impossible for lovers to stigmatize and expose, having flown into the crowd, to stone any who have their own opinion that goes against the opinion of the crowd.

[Forest]

For many articles, I really want to put a minus - massively go to minus articles on analytics / politics. But in terms of armament, poor-quality articles must be marked somehow.

[Serg65]

Quote: Bayonet

Rather, it made it impossible for fans to stigmatize and expose,

And Mr. Shtyk is different with you?

[timkoldun]

Quote: Serg65

And Mr. Shtyk is different with you?

Really! }}

[Bayonet]

Quote: Serg65

And Mr. Shtyk is different with you?

How about you? Or do you consider yourself a beacon of knowledge and verb the infallible truths? Funny, really!

[Bayonet]

Quote: Serg65

And with you Mr. Shtyk

Ramzan will take offense at such a picture and cut off the bells! Then you will know how differently!

[Serg65]

Quote: Bayonet

How about you? Or do you consider yourself a beacon of knowledge and verb the infallible truths? Funny, really!

I completely do not consider myself a light - therefore, I do not teach others life like you, dear!

Quote: Bayonet

Ramzan will take offense at such a picture and cut off the bells! Then you will know how differently!

Dear friend, we are all mortal and do not know what we (you) will be cut off tomorrow

[CONTROL]

Quote: dmi.pris

At work, my colleague started a dispute with me, that's what the return of the Crimea gave us, he believes that this is continuous hemorrhoids.

Any connected territory is hemorrhoids! So it’s necessary to work with her! To invest there not only money, but also - labor, soul ...
That is why the United States and not a single country are occupied, but only ruined! although - full of money, but - greedy ... not to mention the soul!
... And Crimea - they returned theirs!

[CONTROL]

Quote: murriou

In vain canceled cons. Freaks to drive under the baseboard really helped.

Well - "freaks", as Mark Twain said, cannot be re-discussed; but he can fix the matter here - in his own words - "... only a bullet from a good gun, and I don't see any other way!"

[captain]

I want to remind you that the most zealous admirers let a bullet in the head of dissenters. Marshal Rokossovsky, Army General Gorbatov, Army General Meretskov sat in the Gulag, thanks to the true Leninists, patriots, and apparently you are sorry that they did not let a bullet in their forehead? And how many of them sat and were shot, those who had their opinion? Scammers removed many talented people from their path or from envy, do you propose to return to this? Take an interest in the biography of Chernyakhovsky, he was also slandered and only thanks to the intercession of Lenin’s sister didn’t end up in the Gulag. And the hero of the Soviet Union, the writer Karpov, who was sitting on a denunciation, is it your vain left alive? And the commander Ushakov, who perished in the camps, on a denunciation, was wounded nine times in civilian service, fought for the communists and they sent him to prison? Think gentlemen what you are calling for. After all, they can write to you. Suddenly you will be late and people like you will be in time earlier?

[CONTROL]

Quote: bocsman

A minus, I would return the same! Let them not be anonymous and reasoned.

So it is mulberry and is - the button "Complaint!". Agrument, even to the point of turning blue ... - what are you complaining about and why! or - why? ...

[sa-ag]

Quote: CONTROL

Argument, even to the point of turning blue ... - what are you complaining about and why! or - why? ...

I give the ready-made workpiece to enthusiasts - "He rocks the boat" :-)

[free]

2 hands FOR!

[CONTROL]

Quote: populist

I add that the bulk is not always right. It happens that some critically thinking individuals better understand the situation. Public consciousness is inert and often lags behind a rapidly changing environment.

Well yes! It is necessary to develop "a fundamentally flexible political position and a mobile civil platform"!
... so flexible ... and mobile ... To complete unprincipled and spineless!
... Although - you can doubt it - for a while! But - not infinitely the same!

[murriou]

Quote: Amurets

truth is born in a dispute.

... but only battered truths are born in a fight

[M0xHaTka]

And I am strongly opposed. This is the Internet, and here they can express their opinion. Which may differ from the majority opinion. They don’t call you to spit and desecrate the graves of heroes ...
Personally, I have already encountered the fact that censorship of users on this site is much steeper than censorship of the administration. That for the vast majority of locals there is only one opinion - the opinion of the party and the people. Give 37th year. And those who think differently - to the fire! And pre-wheel and put on a stake ...
Let's be honest - the author of the article preaches fanaticism. Even in a milder form.

[M0xHaTka]

Additive for those who are ready to punish, shoot and put a minus
1. How will you calculate the "traitors" if 100% "FOR"?
2. And what if the opinion of the party and the people is wrong? Who will tell you about this? And as an example, the T-34 during the design was considered an enemy sabotage, and the future Marshal Zhukov was arrested as an enemy of the people in 40. By a unanimous impulse, the Crimean species vineyards were destroyed in 87-88.

[Bayonet]

Quote: M0xHaTka

1. How will you calculate the "traitors" if 100% "FOR"?

Hungry spiders in the bank, begin to devour each other!

[Serg65]

Quote: M0xHaTka

But how will you calculate the "traitors" if 100% "FOR"

By a lie !!!!

Quote: M0xHaTka

as an example, the T-34 during the design was considered an enemy sabotage,

Who counted? Head of GAU RKKA Kulik .... and where is he?

Quote: M0xHaTka

future Marshal Zhukov was arrested as an enemy of the people in 40

When exactly? Date, month? The term of detention?

Quote: M0xHaTka

By a unanimous rush in the 87-88 years, the Crimean vineyards were destroyed.

What a fit? By the unanimous order of your beloved M.S. Gorbocheva!

[1536]

This is how public opinion is defined. And now "who in what way". I’m not in the 37th year, but I’m against everyone being on their own, a kind of "fist", my hut is on the edge, I will express my opinion under the blanket. If a person believes that he is right, but receives massive "disadvantages" - this should alert a thinking person. In this way, many troubles can be avoided. And those who put "minuses", if decent, should also think about why a minus. I repeat that not everyone can reasonably respond to their opponent, and, therefore, there is a residue, resentment arises.

[vovanpain]

Quote: M0xHaTka

And I am strongly opposed.

So is your right.

Quote: M0xHaTka

This is the Internet, and here they can express their opinion.

Is it also possible to swear and insult an opponent, is it also possible to water the country and its leadership with slop?

Quote: M0xHaTka

Which may differ from the majority opinion.

Any constructive and healthy criticism is welcome.

Quote: M0xHaTka

Personally, I have already encountered the fact that censorship of users on this site is much steeper than censorship of the administration.

Oh well .... First of all, think for yourself with your head, not your emotions.

Quote: M0xHaTka

Dayosh 37th year

Sometimes it would be useful to return, otherwise freedom is understood as permissiveness.

Quote: M0xHaTka

And those who think differently - to the fire! And pre-wheel and put on a stake ...

You must have been burned 100 times already and put on a stake 258 times?

Quote: M0xHaTka

Let's be honest - the author of the article preaches fanaticism.

The author of the article pointed out the absolutely correct problem, criticizing criticize, and do not be angry, spitting poison, like a cobra.

[sa-ag]

Quote: vovanpain

The author of the article pointed out the absolutely correct problem, criticizing criticize, and do not be angry, spitting poison, like a cobra.

So hanging labels, as the author does in his article, is a sign of the absence of constructive counterarguments and a slide towards the primitive pattern of thinking "he is like that"

[vovanpain]

Quote: sa-ag

So labeling as the author does

And if the opponent hangs the labels himself, then what about? And in the article about the murder of Arsen Pavlov, so much rot came out.

Quote: sa-ag

constructive counterarguments and sliding into a primitive pattern of thinking "he is like that"

That's where the colleague was, their counterarguments were.

[0255]

Quote: vovanpain

Is it also possible to swear and insult an opponent, is it also possible to water the country and its leadership with slop?

And the questions on the topic "why Putin buys US bonds", "did Putin really beat everyone in Syria if everyone who wants to bomb them", "why does he keep Medvedev in prime ministers, who says that there is no money but you hold on", "why does Putin hold back with Minsk agreements LDNR when they are bombarded with dill "- is it constructive criticism or slop down the bright appearance of Uncle Vova?

[vovanpain]

Quote: 0255

And the questions on the topic "why Putin buys US bonds", "did Putin really beat everyone in Syria if everyone who wants to bomb them", "why does he keep Medvedev in prime ministers, who says that there is no money but you hold on", "why does Putin hold back with Minsk agreements of LDNR when they are bombarded with dill "is a constructive criticism

You yourself answered your question.

Quote: 0255

the bright face of Uncle Vova?

And here too

Quote: 0255

watering

Putin is not your uncle, he is the president of my country.

[Bayonet]

Quote: vovanpain

Is it also possible to swear and insult an opponent, is it also possible to water the country and its leadership with slop?

You will find the answer to this question in the rules of conduct on the site
The site is strictly prohibited:

a) Mat in any form (open and veiled), as well as quoting comments from MAT, swear words; insult and threats against the opponent. Rough form of speech ("ass", "", etc.) ("" also refers to the mat, the exception is articles on dog breeding);


b) Inciting ethnic hatred. This also includes the use of such words and derivatives as: crest, Hohland, Jew, USA, Bulbash, Talaponet, chock, khachik, Azerbaijani, cross-eyed, Muscovite, Raska (generally speaking Russia and Russian in derogatory form) and other similar turns of unnatural speech ;

[vovanpain]

Quote: Bayonet

You will find the answer to this question in the rules of conduct on the site

Oh Alexander, and you go through the comments, under each article you can see

a) Mat in any form (open and veiled), as well as quoting a comment with a MAT, swear words; insult and threats against the opponent. The rough form of speech ("ass", "", etc.) ("" also refers to obscenities, the exception is articles on dog breeding); b) Incitement of ethnic hatred. This also includes the use of such words and derivatives as: crest, Khokhlyandiya, Jew, USA, Bulbash, Talaponets, Churka, Khachik, Azerbaijani, cross-eyed, Moskal, Rashka (in general, the mention of Russia and Russianness in a derogatory form) and other similar turns of unnatural speech ;
c) Flood, comments not related to the subject of the article
Flood (from incorrectly spoken [1] English. Flood - flood, flooding) - messages in Internet forums and chat rooms, which occupy large volumes and do not carry any useful information. Normal flood messages - sending a large number of messages of the same type. Flood spreads as a result of excess free time, and with the aim of trolling - for example, out of a desire to annoy someone.
d) Have multiple accounts per visitor;
e) An insult to religious beliefs and feelings of citizens, such as: the publication of anti-religious demotivators, sayings, poems, videos and audio clips, etc .;
f) With all due respect to other languages, the language of communication in the comments to the published articles is Russian. Unfortunately, speakers of other languages ​​often use them to clarify relationships among themselves, while using obscene language. In addition, the forum assumes publicity, therefore statements written in any foreign language and incomprehensible to the vast majority of readers due to their ignorance of various foreign languages ​​will be deleted;
g) It is forbidden to add articles from third-party sites to comments, since this is contrary to the purpose of the commenting function: comments on the site are intended solely for the readers to express their own opinions about published articles. At the same time, reasonable quoting of materials from other sites is allowed within one comment with the obligatory reference to the source.

Well, of course, he himself is not sinless.

[Retvizan]

Quote: Bayonet

b) Inciting ethnic hatred. This also includes the use of such words and derivatives as: crest, Hohland, Jew, USA, Bulbash,

if you do not indulge in obscenity, then constantly inciting in topics about politics.

[Skeptic Self-Taught]

I am also against "such a witch hunt".
The author, you want, I will now rank you as a troll and prove that you are clearly not a patriot ...
Yes Easy!
Now you are calling under the guise of fighting with a certain individual who (now it doesn’t matter what he said, God is his judge) CROWD!
Meal'n'Real.
But it has long been known that a crowd is a terrible weapon. Look at the same swamp. Do you think everyone was there a la Navalny and were on grants? Far from it! They came there) I personally know such people) to speak not "for Navalny" but "against Putin". And not against him as such, but against his one or another action.
So you are trying to organize the crowd and start a collective WITCH HUNT.
Dear Administration and Moderators of the site.
So why are you allowing such articles on the air?

PS In the world of modern information war, there are no such concepts as honor and conscience. But what I want to say. The death of Motorola (Arseny Pavlov) will be played up from all sides: both ours and theirs. For us he is a HERO, a man who stopped fascism with arms in hand. For the Nazis, he is a terrorist. Let's not be like the CENSOR, kind of the year 2015. And such as the Author of this article we will "pull up" in a friendly way, so that "dizziness from success" does not happen.

[Serg65]

Quote: Skeptic Self-taught

I am also against "such a witch hunt".
The author, you want, I will now rank you as a troll and prove that you are clearly not a patriot ...
Yes Easy!

This is the principle of the comrades' work: "Russia is in danger, putin has done everything, we are worried about the Russian people and pensioners"

[alexej123]

And here you are wrong. The rights of this "individual" end where mine begin. This is DEMOCRACY - Legality, order. And in slang - "you have to answer for the market", I exaggerate. If you have offended someone on the site, answer with minuses, a ban. This is democracy and there is no need to scare the 37s. With the mention of the 37s, you yourself turn into them. Everyone should be responsible for their words and deeds.

[Skeptic Self-Taught]

Did you write this to someone? :)

[alexej123]

For you and for those who so "value" their own opinion, independent of others. The author wrote not for dissidents, but for "dissidents". The author proposes to "ban" not for a different point of view, but for outright rudeness, frank substitution of concepts. Yesterday, in one article, one "dissenter" left a "harmless" comment like "Well, whatmen you are cool". Is this the same "witch hunt"? Here is such a creature and not something to ban.

[Skeptic Self-Taught]

The author suggested bullying.
"I ask everyone and I urge - let's be vigilant ourselves, and at least on the forum, to end these obviously not worried about the death of a person, and moreover mocked. You can name them by anything: trolls," swamps ", etc. But they have a goal one is understandable - to shake our society. A request to the site administration. If such "patriots" are found, and they can be seen immediately after several posts, delete and stop their further propaganda. Such complaints, and even more so will not sue. I believe that forum users IN will only be "FOR!" (from)

I’ll just give another example: tomorrow all the ukroverkhushka, who was on the Maidan, will go after Kachinsky.
I will write: to dogs - death of a dog. It will be rudeness, or here, on the VO will be held "Hurray", tk. removed them, not ours, but theirs, aliens, enemies?
The author can not defend his point of view and offers to ban? And how will it differ from the censor ??? Ah, they immediately banned him, as they see IP from the Russian Federation ... Well, yes, this is the next step.
You know, in my youth I was a moderator on a site where they talked obscenely ...
After 5 years of work there, I learned to defend my point of view in any words. without resorting to such a thing as ADMINRESURS. There they banned only for one thing - for the propaganda of sodomy. No talk banned.
So, good gentlemen, study, study and study again. Shouting "hey, hey" with the crowd is the last thing.

And by the way, if they start to ban for the substitution of concepts, then you were weak. So they trampled you and a new swamp is just around the corner. But if you still managed, no, not to re-educate, but to roll up his point of view, with arguments and facts, then it’s an honor to you and praise and the marshal’s star for epaulettes.
Something like that.

[alexej123]

Sergei, can you hear yourself, who are you going to argue with? With outspoken and hidden Russophobes? You can argue with someone who has a different point of view, trying to prove it. And with zombie creatures who say the cliché will not work. And two points: 1. Good must be with fists. 2. It is necessary to take into account the specifics of the site, there are a lot of people here who were or are in the "sovereign service". I myself am one of them. And if "the enemy does not surrender, he is destroyed."

[gorgo]

I completely share the author’s position, but it’s a little regrettable to see such strange logical errors in the text. I just can’t pass by. Well, see for yourself.
"overseas financial sharks and shady business tycoons keep their puppeteers, .... on a short leash "
The puppeteer is the one who runs the dolls, no one keeps him on a leash, he keeps someone on a leash.
Next.
"They go to sophisticated publications, fakes, ... designed for near from the politics of the people "
Probably meant "designed for distant from the politics of the people. "

"Editors of world newspapers, as well as reporters, correspondents and ordinary people are bribed. having the opportunity Make money
It's probably about people having desire make money ...

"This is pain from ... a distant yet peaceful and calm life on this long-suffering land"
Pain apparently because of peaceful life is still far, but not from the most peaceful life!

This does not affect the very meaning of the note, of course, and if it were one phrase, I would not write anything, but here ... It seems to me that I need to be more careful when writing phrases ... Sorry.

[aszzz888]

The puppeteer is the one who runs the dolls, no one keeps him on a leash, he keeps someone on a leash.

Obama is being held by the world's shadow people, and he, in turn, is holding "dolls" such as the Nepalezhnya, the Saudis, the Baltic states, the Germans, and the French - should you name it further?

Probably meant "designed for people far from politics"

Why change words with the same meaning and concept?

And further on the comments ...

[Batia]

Friends! Let them write these "byaki" here too. You need to know the enemy and be able to "neutralize". And how can we learn without seeing them? Let them scribble, and against the background of them we will learn in live conversations to choose the right arguments, either in word or in a stigma.

[CONTROL]

Quote: Bayonet

Hungry spiders in the bank, begin to devour each other!

... And - devouring everyone - they begin to devour themselves!

[CONTROL]

Quote: captain

I want to remind you that the most zealous admirers let a bullet in the forehead of dissidents. ... Think gentlemen, what are you calling for? After all, they can write to you. Suddenly you will be late and people like you will be in time earlier?

Not that case ... Out of context!
Why didn't you read "The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn" in Mark Twain? The quote is from there ... (Although the book is for adults ...)

[guzik007]

there spread discussions ponimash; to shoot, a bullet in the forehead ....
Wow, there are still many admirers of the traditional for the history of the country method of polemics with objectionable opponents. Well, well, let’s, as some here suggest, expel those who are objectionable from the site and live by unifying the alaverds and assenting each other.
A month later, when it becomes very boring, like-minded people will suddenly split into two camps on some insignificant issue. Well, for example, what car is the Beloved Guarantor supposed to have: domestic or good? Disputes will lead to the fact that again a large mass of partisans will demand from the admins to remove "these impudent trolls" from the VO .... Then another division into irreconcilable camps will follow for an even more insignificant reason.
Well, it was I in a joking manner that I outlined my vision of the future situation. And I see my attitude to the definition of "troll" in the following. A troll is a person who allows himself to scoff at the basic principles of a civilized, cultured person. Such as: compassion for the weak, rejection of mockery of the deceased, respect for the history of his country, as one of the sides of the broader concept of "patriotism".
And everything else is a personal opinion that every free citizen has the right to, and if it does not coincide with yours, then these are your personal problems and no more. It is only by learning to respect the opinions of others that we may someday create a harmonious, truly cohesive society.
..... Well, that’s it, I’m finishing it, otherwise I feel it, it’s like a lecturer from the propaganda journal. : =))

[Altona]

Anenerbe 2.0 Today, 01: 46

Givi get ready ....

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are you guys serious? He is a terrorist that raised people against the country?
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Nick I would have corrected "And not on willow-2.0" ... In the spring of 1945 they were hung ...

[murriou]

Quote: Altona

"And not on willow-2.0"

On the aspen, did I guess?

[aszzz888]

Thank you all!
Sheriff.

[victorrat]

I look at the sky and wonder a little thought, why did the administration cancel the minuses and introduce a complaint? Who is pleased to complain? We can reasonably write an answer to some scoundrel from the USA. And complaining is not our bad manners!
Hope for the best
I went ashore with a terribly cooler
The sweet girl met the cloud.
Heaviness in my soul and I don’t want to suffer,
Everyone knows that with which it will happen.

Life begins full of joy
The happiness of smiles and light is filled.
Songs of cute, high-spirited dances
The sun shines and the rainbow colors.

Good people, study and holidays.
Boys pulled over the braid - pranksters.
Is it grief? Well, don’t mess around!
Mother bequeathed to me: Do not complain!

As time goes by quickly.
How soon we become adults!
I want to soak in a warm bed,
The morning greets with cool freshness.

These are problems where people change,
Why are the good turning into evil?
And change from case to case,
Mother, I remember: Hope for the best!

[pts-m]

Disputes, disputes and complaints. All of us “people” are different, even the fingers on one hand have differences in EVERYTHING. There can be no consensus, but only the majority or the minority. Only the force method can influence the decision. Then, where is democracy?

[bbss]

Cum Troll without much investigation. As for Arsen ... As if a loved one was lost.

[Zubr]

Let Arseny rest in peace, BUT, something tells me, he is with us. He will not leave, like his ilk, until they restore historical justice and the brotherhood of all the peoples that united the Russian state.

[OLD FART]

Eh Arseny .... May the land rest in peace for you, you will remain in the memory of the people ... They did not save, forgive me!

the hunt continues ... And revenge will be cruel!

[Guru]

I support the article, such stubs should be deprived of accounts. They are hired scribblers, as they like to say - "Nothing personal, just business"