The crew of the North Korean schooner tried to escape to neutral waters with hostages from the PU FSB

Continues to receive information about the incident with the North Korean fishing boat, engaged in illegal fishing in the exclusive economic zone of Russia. It is reported that when the border guards attempted to inspect the schooner, its crew put up serious resistance, as a result of which one of the servicemen of the Border Troops of the Russian Federation was wounded in the head.

From the material RIA News:

October 15 2016 in 05: 20 (October 14, 22.20 in Moscow) in the exclusive economic zone of the Russian Federation border guard ship PU FSB of Russia in the Primorsky Territory stopped for an inspection North Korean fishing vessel “Dae Yang 10” (flag in the DPRK, in the North Korean region, the flag of the DPRK, the route, the route, the flag, the flag of the DPRK, the route, the port, the port of the North Korean region, the flag of the North Korea , crew of 48 citizens of DPRK). An inspection team was landed on board.

The team of the North Korean ship refused to comply with the legal requirements of the Russian border guards and attacked the representatives of the inspection team. At this moment, the captain of the fishing schooner gave the order to leave the economic zone of the Russian Federation. At the same time he, apparently, was not particularly disturbed by the fact that there were Russian border guards on board.

From the report:

In 16.55 (10.55 Moscow time), while not obeying the legal requirements of border authority officials, the detained vessel began to leave the RF EEZ in the direction of the DPRK EEZ. At the same time, the North Korean team continued its aggressive actions, at the precautionary shooting from rifle weapons did not react. In 19.30 (12.30 Moscow time), a border guard patrol ship from ship weapons carried out a warning fire to stop the offending vessel, despite which the ship continued to move in the direction of exit from the RF EEZ. In order to prevent the intruder from leaving the intruder with the officers of the FSB of Russia on it, the DPRK zone opened fire on the propeller-steering group of a large-caliber machine gun. The vessel lost its course and went to drift in 19.44 (12.44 Moscow time).

The FSB message on the Primorsky Territory states that as a result of the shelling of a North Korean ship, 9 people were injured, one of whom died some time later.

Investigation Department of the IC of the Russian Federation:

In connection with the use of violence against a border control officer of the Federal Security Service of the Russian Federation in the Primorsky Territory, a procedural check is conducted on the grounds of a crime under Article 1 Art. 318 of the Criminal Code ("The use of violence that is not dangerous to life and health in relation to a representative of the authorities in connection with the performance of his official duties").

The vessel will tow in the direction of the Russian port. The DPRK consulate in Vladivostok was informed about the incident in the Sea of ​​Japan.

Comments

[Bayonet]

Well, Juche lovers and Kim fans? Let's praise your "brothers"!

[OLD FART]

Desperate guys ..! Well done ...

Our border guards have a good lesson ...! Gouging ....

[Bayonet]

Quote: STARPER

Desperate guys ..! Well done ...

Starper, these "fellows" cut our frontier guard's head, and you are happy. What a perverse patriotism!

[0255]

Quote: Bayonet

Starper, these "fellows" cut our frontier guard's head, and you are happy. What a perverse patriotism!

He doesn’t care. Other couch Jucheists do not mind turning the Far East into an exclusion zone because of Kim, if only he would launch a rocket at someone

[Monarchist]

These "Jucheists" after "grunted" socialist fairy tales, and China is "friends" with Vova, Beijing is an obvious radish, pray for the paranoid

[Mahmut]

Our border guards have a good lesson ...! Gouging ....

And what is gouging? What did wrong. Charter violated, instructions, law? Or is an attack on an inspection team a common thing?

[gladcu2]

Mahmut

Strict adherence to the charter removes liability for failure to fulfill the task.

Border guards did not fulfill the task, and even strict adherence to the charter does not relieve them of responsibility. This thinking is right.

And the fact that some burdock with a machine gun was hit with a stick through the helmet, it’s the border guard commander, you need to insert such a piston that he should walk for work and home for another six months. In view of the violation of the function of the sciatic organ.

[Saint George]

Did the border guards fail to fulfill the task? They did the same.

[OLD FART]

Quote: Bayonet

Quote: STARPER

Desperate guys ..! Well done ...

Starper, these "fellows" cut our frontier guard's head, and you are happy. What a perverse patriotism!

Here along the way you are very joyful to such an applicant ...
And we will understand what the border guards were there, what was allowed ...
Look atalef your companion pulled himself up ....))) It will begin now!

[Bayonet]

Quote: STARPER

And we will understand what the border guards were there, what was allowed ...

Well, how to figure it out - write it off, be a caress!

[Alex777]

IMHO what is there to understand?
The captain decided that with the inspection team on board the border ship they would not be fired upon and pulled.
In this situation, we had no choice but to shoot the crew. It helped.
Here the border guards are just fine fellows. The combat ready.

[Mahmut]

And we will understand what the border guards were there, what was allowed ...

What did they allow? The challenger is not a precedent, and the inspection team is not a capture team.

[Koshak]

Quote: STARPER

we will understand what the border guards were there, what was allowed ...

" Who are "we? I get fucked up by such "investigators"

[arane]

Quote: Bayonet

Quote: STARPER

Desperate guys ..! Well done ...

Starper, these "fellows" cut our frontier guard's head, and you are happy. What a perverse patriotism!

Sometimes it seems that he is generally a bot! Absolutely everything is predictable.

"You're so smart, it's so interesting with you"

[clidon]

He believes that we are getting stronger from this.

[Berkut752]

Quote: Bayonet

Quote: STARPER

Desperate guys ..! Well done ...

Starper, these "fellows" cut our frontier guard's head, and you are happy. What a perverse patriotism!

THIS IS NOT PATRIOTISM, this is when, not knowing the job descriptions and international rules, they try to make themselves heroes.

[olegkrava]

As long as there are stupid people in the direction of the border troops, such incidents can be widespread. I say, by what I know.

[gladcu2]

It is the border guards who slipped their heads.

Koreans, a people brought up to harsh conditions. They might not understand the crooked English. You never know who asks them on the ship. Around alone capitalists.

And NOT for Juche lovers, one piece of advice. Broaden your horizons. It is painfully straightforward to think.

[region58]

Quote: gladcu2

You never know who asks them on the ship.

In your opinion, does anyone appear in the economic zone of Russia under the identification marks of the RF PS PS? If this is a joke, a smiley face would they put something ...

[gladcu2]

region

And you do not twist.

In my opinion

The border guard commander, an experienced man, made the right decision. But he needs to insert a piston, for not the correct actions of the inspection team. His search team apparently won't see the people.

I would, as a person respecting society, first of all, suppress any forms of resistance, including verbal and blinking. I would put the whole team in the most sophisticated shit. And the bed also shot a shin, only because of considerations of humanism.

And so the commander of the ship had to correct the situation so that, God forbid, no more people were injured.

In general, all nuts.

And the violators were and will be.

[region58]

Quote: gladcu2

And you do not twist.

So I try, only how else to understand your words:

You never know who asks them on the ship.

To accept border guards in the corresponding ammunition and having the corresponding insignia for someone else is very difficult. In addition, all adequate people in all countries without exception know that resistance to government officials can end very sadly. Yet:

First of all, suppressed any form of resistance, including verbal and blinking. Would put the whole team in the most sophisticated shit

this is assuming malice, which is not always the case (they got it wrong, the engine stalled, and so on ...), and why are they tweeting in their own language - hz, so that immediately the muzzle into the deck is overkill. Moreover, our border guards are also polite.

[Saint George]

Since when is it customary to put a team on the floor with a team whose, for example, a navigator has broken?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: STARPER

Desperate guys ..! Well done ...
Our border guards have a good lesson ...! Gouging ....

And if the message read "When crossing the border to the UK, the violators resisted the soldiers of the PV FSB of the Russian Federation and one border guard was seriously wounded", would you make the same comment? I doubt it.
Or is the fact that the leader of St. Korea puffs his cheeks against the United States does this give indulgence to his subjects to cripple and kill Russian border guards?

[Sotskiy]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Desperate guys ..! Well done ...
Our border guards have a good lesson ...! Gouging ....
And if the message read "When crossing the border to the UK, the violators resisted the soldiers of the PV FSB of the Russian Federation and one border guard was seriously wounded", would you make the same comment? I doubt it.

For especially patriotic ones, I translate in Russian what I said as I see "STARPER": When detained, our border guards either relaxed the "rolls", not expecting resistance (although they could have guessed from which country the ship was), or the preparation was "lame". And the North Koreans simply: Either you followed the order (in this case, the captain of the ship) or the shooting. Let me remind you that there is still war communism there. The third option: the tolerant policy of our leadership towards the very fact of detention. Why fellows ...? Well then.
Recall that at the official level, our authorities didn’t strongly support the DPRK, even against it, they supported all sorts of American sanctions against North Korea. I mean, at least not friends. Further. Any ship is the legal territory of the country to which it belongs. The Koreans tried to defend their territory, independently violating a ship whose laws or not. And now the question. What did our fishermen do when they were detained (several cases) Norwegian border guards (note!) in the disputed economic zone? At least one Norway was handed over a hill because they violated the Russian state border by their appearance on the ship? Are the ship guns scared? But the Koreans were not afraid, although one died.
One case according to the third option (see above).
In the 90s he worked in the merchant marine. We came to Port Said (Egypt). Merchants with rags immediately ran onto the ship and occupied all the aisles up to the wardroom, setting up a bazaar. The port guard turned a blind eye to all this, because it feeds from them. The team itself suggested to the captain: "Let us now cram the heads and drive all the traders out in the back." The response from the authorities followed: "Don't touch it. The party's policy is that Russians are kind people." ??? Note, even to the detriment of the Russians themselves! I mean, all the brazen grimy rabble are our friends?
In contrast.
A tanker under the flag of the USA was passing by the entrance to Suez.
Right on the move, the same traders on boats on the abandoned "cats" got up and arranged on the deck the same bazaar as we have .... Frostbite people - they did not understand where they climbed).
What have the Americans done? They threw this "bazaar" along with the traders overboard right in the course of the ship ...
Awful?) Inhuman?) Not tolerant?)
But the Americans simply defended their territory, unlike the Russians, specifically in our example.
What do you think, who at that moment I respected on such an example?
So while the Russians themselves will allow themselves to ride with their legs dangling, then not only the North Koreans will "lay down" on us, violating the border, but also popuasses from some Guinea, not understanding "the kind, Russian breadth of soul." Something like this.

[11 black]

Quote: Sovetskiy

For especially patriotic ones, I translate in Russian what I said as I see "STARPER": When detained, our border guards either relaxed the "rolls", not expecting resistance (although they could have guessed from which country the ship was), or the preparation was "lame". And the North Koreans simply: Either you followed the order (in this case, the captain of the ship) or the shooting. Let me remind you that there is still war communism there. The third option: the tolerant policy of our leadership towards the very fact of detention. Why fellows ...? Well then.
Recall that at the official level, our authorities didn’t strongly support the DPRK, even against it, they supported all sorts of American sanctions against North Korea. I mean, at least not friends. Further. Any ship is the legal territory of the country to which it belongs. The Koreans tried to defend their territory, regardless of whether they violated a ship whose laws or not. And now the question. What did our fishermen do when they were detained (in several cases) by Norwegian border guards (I note!) In the disputed economic zone? At least one Norway was given a hitch for the fact that they violated the Russian state border by their appearance on the ship? Are the ship guns scared? And the Koreans were not afraid, although one died.
One case according to the third option (see above).
In the 90s he worked in the merchant marine. We came to Port Said (Egypt). Merchants with rags immediately ran onto the ship and occupied all the aisles up to the wardroom, setting up a bazaar. The port guard turned a blind eye to all this, because it feeds from them. The team itself suggested to the captain: "Let us now cram the heads and drive all the traders out in the back." The response from the authorities followed: "Don't touch it. The party's policy is that Russians are kind people." ??? Note, even to the detriment of the Russians themselves! I mean, all the brazen grimy rabble are our friends?
In contrast.
A tanker under the flag of the USA was passing by the entrance to Suez.
Right on the move, the same traders on boats on the abandoned "cats" got up and arranged on the deck the same bazaar as we have .... Frostbite people - they did not understand where they climbed).
What have the Americans done? They threw this "bazaar" along with the traders overboard right in the course of the ship ...
Awful?) Inhuman?) Not tolerant?)
But the Americans simply defended their territory, unlike the Russians, specifically in our example.
What do you think, who at that moment I respected on such an example?
So while the Russians themselves will allow themselves to ride with their legs dangling, then not only the North Koreans will "lay down" on us, violating the border, but also popuasses from some Guinea, not understanding "the kind, Russian breadth of soul." Something like this.

You have some kind of perverse idea of ​​justice.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: 11 black

You have some kind of perverse idea of ​​justice.

Everyone goes crazy in his own way ... Or do you think the exception?

[gladcu2]

Sotskiy

You correctly assessed the situation.

Black is just trolling.

Apparently he is paid money for the correct formation of public opinion. This is a form of ideological struggle. The price of victory for such a struggle is the destruction of society and the defeat of the state.

[veteran66]

"Something like this."
It is somehow incomprehensible ... when trying to justify one adherent of sausage by "twenty", who, in turn, got involved in defense of the Juche ideas, the author tried to amputate the tonsils through the anus. Any ship that violated the border of another state is obliged to admit the inspection team on board, and no one cares whose legal territory is there. The Koreans tried to violate international rules (and not someone's laws), while crippling a border guard who was performing his duties within the framework of these international rules. In this case, as an example, it is better to cite the actions of the Iranian sailors against the US boat. Well done!

[Monarchist]

Soviet, you are right that we need to learn from the Americans and talk with the monkeys with a whip.
A familiar doctor said: in 1976, ours and the French from the international red cross in Algeria built two hospitals of luxury hospitals. 1977 our doctors came to work in that hospital, and there is an empty box: even the door frames were chosen. French hospital even the walls are not soiled!

A man said that in 1984 in Kampuchea they openly laughed at ours: Lenin's ideas about international assistance were considered dibilism!

[gladcu2]

Monarchist

You should have reconsidered the forms of state building for a long time.

You think as a state person, but the concept of building a state is not right for you. Unfortunately, the monarchy in the world remained only as a traditional form of government. The fact is that monotheistic religions lose to the media. They have lost the ability to shape morality. And monarchies in the first place always relied on religion. The king is the viceroy of God. Have you heard?

Yes, in the late USSR, too much importance was given to the third world. There they were considered oppressed. But in fact they had to be considered underdeveloped. In this case, the best way to motivate, a good kick in the ass.

[rasteer]

But they took help with this ... and also asked for it, always and everywhere. Americans, too, regularly snatch away with their own weapons, before they just liked to sponsor "dictators" against other "dictators", and now terrorists against "dictators", and these, like the Pol Pot people, take a handout with one hand, and shoot at you with the other.

[Orionvit]

In my opinion, disputes over the fact of a simple message caught fire. No one knows the whole situation, but it seems that all the scribblers were there personally and watched with their own eyes. North Koreans are reckless in their heads, and besides there is nothing to eat in Korea there. What can an inspection group of three people do (or how many were there)? There is always hope to cover the cannons of his ship. So everything was done correctly and the captain of the border guards acted according to circumstances, having shot the violator vessel. Just no one expected that the Koreans would be completely inadequate.

[Monarchist]

If the border guards appeared under the red flag, Starper and the other yesterday, would spit boiling water.

[gladcu2]

Aaron Zawi

And what changes in the comments of STARPER?

The fact that border guards did not correctly assess the situation? They allowed aggression to them, without priority suppressing the aggression of the enemy, if negotiations did not bring the required result.

And the Koreans acted like everyone who would act in such a situation.

[igor1981]

Quote: STARPER

Desperate guys ..! Well done.

Starper, why did you survive out of your mind? What are they doing well - that they attacked our border guards?
It looks like your nickname corresponds to you in full.

[Tatyana]

The old man is THINKINGLY on the forum "VO" chasing "stars". I already noticed this from his other comments to other articles.

[igor1981]

Quote: Tatiana

The old man is THINKINGLY on the forum "VO" chasing "stars". I already noticed this from his other comments to other articles.

I agree with you. He reminds me of a giant of thought. (even lost).

[OLD FART]

Quote: Tatiana

The old man is THINKINGLY on the forum "VO" chasing "stars". I already noticed this from his other comments to other articles.

I don’t need stars anymore .... What can I have already achieved!
Now in free flight ...
But I essentially wrote? What suddenly teased you, your gang ...

[sq]

[quote = STARPER] Now in free flight /
is it like plywood over paris?

[Tatyana]

OLD FART

Quote: Tatiana
“The old man is THINKINGLY on the forum" VO "chasing" stars ". I already noticed this from his other comments to other articles.

I don’t need stars anymore ... What can I have already achieved!

Not a fig! You still have the youthful passion of an inveterate gambler. And then these are completely different - "playing" - stars.

But I essentially wrote?

Beside that.

What so suddenly teased you

Bias, ill-conceived commentary - its ambiguity

your gang ...

But why immediately offend others? How do you dislike criticism! Again, is it your youthful maximalism or the annoyance of an avid player?

[gladcu2]

Tatyana

I'm sorry. I don’t know how STARPER judged before.
But in this case, he is right.

In the article described, the commander of the border ship is primarily to blame. Secondly, the commander of the inspection team. In the third turn, the injured soldier himself.

The mistake of the inspection group is that they allowed the detainees to display "heroism". This is extremely bad. And speaks of poor preparation.

The inspection team should first of all assess the situation and the form of their actions. If on the grounds, the team’s behavior does not inspire confidence, then using the power of weapons to create complete control. How this is done, you can imagine for yourself.

And STARPER, in his form, expressed what I just told you.

Respectful decisiveness com ship. He retained control of the situation. But, he must receive a penalty. For the poor preparation of the inspection team.

And border violators have been and will be. And no matter what flag they fly.

[Saint George]

Do not talk nonsense. None of the Russian security forces should receive any penalty. The party that committed the attack is to blame, and these are not border guards.

No need to turn everything from head to foot. Principles of cause and effect.

[Simpsonian]

well, they killed an unarmed man, it’s clear that he needs to ...

[Saint George]

Well, do you think Koreans are not at all to blame?

[Saint George]

I just now realized that some crazy people here protect the Koreans. . )))

The border guards acted according to the instructions. At first, warning fire was opened, but border violators and kidnappers of Russian citizens did not respond. After that, fire was opened to kill. The Koreans are not only to blame themselves, they also have the captain must answer according to our laws.

[Saint George]

And by the way, why unarmed? What did they hit on the head of our border guard? I think not at all with my hand.

[Simpsonian]

really butt?

the insane evil-minded people apparently do not understand that disobedience to orders in this situation is not a reason for murder.

[Saint George]

A pipe or stick is no longer a weapon? This is a cold weapon.

They didn’t want to kill anyone, and the law forbids it. But border guards have the right to shoot border violators if they disobey the order, especially if they have abducted Russian citizens. Everything was done according to the law. Koreans disobeyed and perished. They themselves are to blame. The captain will also be responsible for everything, including the death of his subordinates, since he knew what his actions might lead to.

This is not the first fatal case. So came across both the Japanese and the Chinese. Our border guards acted in accordance with the law and I fully support them. Let this be a lesson to the DPRK poachers.

[Simpsonian]

No, not a weapon.

by law, in a pinch, they could shoot for example in the arm or leg.

the foreign Ministry piles on for the death of a foreign citizen, therefore, most of all in Russia has always been Russian

[Simpsonian]

you, as usual, confused the "punishment" for insubordination, and the "prevention" of offenses ...
for "animals" this is the norm

[Prince of Pensions]

"Starper" is an acc-troll. This account is specially created for VO

[Cat man null]

Quote: Prince of Pensions

"Starper" is an acc-troll. This account is specially created for VO

- Starper (aka Mozart, aka Khariton, aka MIKHAN) is just a person who is not quite healthy on his head, whose only goal is to collect "stars" on VO
- He carries, basically, a fierce blizzard. So it was, is and will be (s)
- IMHO, yes

[OLD FART]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Quote: Prince of Pensions

"Starper" is an acc-troll. This account is specially created for VO

- Starper (aka Mozart, aka Khariton, aka MIKHAN) is just a person who is not quite healthy on his head, whose only goal is to collect "stars" on VO
- He carries, basically, a fierce blizzard. So it was, is and will be (s)
- IMHO, yes

Here the Cat appeared ... And I was hoping that the shepherds were bitten! Greetings Koshak!
My answer is: I am writing what I think ... Even if it is clumsy, I put my soul into every comment! This is your gang and infuriates (and makes me happy))) ...
Write men do not be afraid! They are terribly afraid of it .. When we just speak out ..! I already earned a heart attack with them, but they just won’t take me ....

[Cat man null]

Quote: STARPER

Writing, what i think... Even clumsily, but I put my soul into every comment!

- well, I already said above -

Quote: Cat Man Null

just not quite healthy on the head of people... IMHO

- You only confirmed my statement. Again IMHO.

Quote: STARPER

This is your gang and infuriates ...

- I don't know about the "gang", but I personally am rather amused.

Quote: STARPER

Write men do not be afraid! They are terribly afraid of it .. When we just speak out ..! I already had a heart attack with them, but they just won’t take me

- in-in-in ... Precisely
- reminded for some reason: "Why are you so killed? You will never kill yourself like that"

[OLD FART]

Quote: Prince of Pensions

"Starper" is an acc-troll. This account is specially created for VO

On VO I was "cut", "shot" so I do not advise anyone ... I write what I think, sometimes it brings in .. Then I apologize if I'm not right!
I do not like liberalists ... I confess!

Now they speak a lot of them beautifully on the site ... But you won’t lie!

[gladcu2]

igor1981

Koreans, well done, is that their actions correspond to the only right decision. And they tried not to miss their opportunity.

And the border guards demand a penalty for allowing the situation when the Koreans began the realization of their salvation.

It turned out to be the most lousy situation when the illiterate actions of the inspection team led to victims and a political scandal.

Delaying violators is commonplace. But this must be done correctly, so that cases end only in fines.

[2s1122]

Our border guards acted in accordance with international rules, or you want them to fire at first and then do searches. And no one is safe from an attack at the border

[dauria]

Our borders acted in accordance with international rules

At least someone wrote as a military man. People, in the army, such actions are described in orders, instructions, regulations and a heap of other papers that have the force of law. In detail, meticulously. There is a hundred times more "common sense" than we can think of now, because this is the experience of hundreds of cases. Take at least UG and KS and the procedure for using weapons by sentries - you all learned by heart and worked out dozens of times in your studies. And the commander does not care about "international rules". He answers to the prosecutor according to ours (and still everything is agreed)

Here he is something you will not envy. Every little thing and signature will be checked. I am not a border guard or a sailor, but I represent and sympathize.

[Sotskiy]

Quote: 2s1122

Our border guards acted in accordance with international rules or do you want them to fire at first and then do searches?

Want a life example?
When going on a merchant ship in the late 90s (dry cargo ship) from Alexandria (Egypt) to Ashdod (Israel) and entering the territorial waters of Israel, we were first warned three times by the Israelis by radio that our entrance was not registered, which means that it was prohibited. Consequences of something-shelling in front of the bow of the vessel from boats of the Israeli Coast Guard and coverage in a "ring" by two boats under the gun sights.
And the reason is simple, our radio operator decided to take revenge on the captain (and he succeeded ) and filed a notice about the arrival of the ship to the Israelis at the allotted time, but ... 7 minutes before the end. As a result, Israel did not receive information on time. I emphasize that this was not a warship, but a merchant ship.
You say international rules, which gave the right to shoot an unarmed ship under the flag of the Russian Federation?
Or it can tell how our merchant ships boarded English special forces from helicopters in the Adriatic when they raided Yugoslavia. Will you also rant about international law?

[Lukich]

Quote: STARPER

Our border guards are a good lesson ..

right!! the next time you see the DPRK flag in our waters, fire to kill. Well, who of the sofa "generals" is ready to give such an order? and the author of this post knows how many people the inspection group consists of? how many of the intruder's crew we know. Is it necessary to land an inspection team on all ships in a 1: 1 ratio? "glory to the poachers under the Juche flag"

[lelikas]

Quote: Lukich

and it’s known to the aftor of this post of how many people the inspection group consists of?

Maybe ten people, moreover, "specially trained".

[Homo]

Quote: STARPER

Our border guards have a good lesson ...! Gouging ....

And under that +17. Here are the fruits of the site administration's tolerant policy. Any "obscene" creature is rowing with a shovel +!

[Koshak]

Quote: STARPER

Desperate guys ..! Well done ...
Our border guards have a good lesson ...! Gouging ....

"Old man" just to kick. "Your" border guards are erecting a fence from a chain-link on the Russian border.

[rotmistr60]

Bayonet, you are out of topic and you are wasting your "proletarian hatred". Although yours is not proletarian, but purely "liberal", which is much worse. Do you yourself know anything about the Juche ideas?

[Bayonet]

Quote: rotmistr60

Do you yourself know anything about the Juche ideas?

I know.

Quote: rotmistr60

Although yours is not proletarian, but purely "liberalistic"

Feels Specialist! And specifically nothing to say about the news?

[hrych]

Quote: Bayonet

Well, Juche lovers and Kim fans? Let's praise your "brothers"!

And where did Kim and the poachers, or did he personally give the order to fish? The captain freaked out because he shone the term in his homeland, and now they will generally shoot him. But there was an incident with Chinese fishermen and South Korean border guards, so feel the difference.

Quote: rotmistr60

purely "liberalistic"

I do not agree here, Bayonet, a typical Bolshevik-Trotskyist

[Bayonet]

Quote: hrych

I do not agree here, Bayonet, a typical Bolshevik-Trotskyist

Yes, you quit! I myself and all the political movements to me -

[hrych]

It’s clear that everything is up to the bulb

[Amurets]

Quote: Bayonet

Quote: rotmistr60

Do you yourself know anything about the Juche ideas?

I know.

Quote: rotmistr60

Although yours is not proletarian, but purely "liberalistic"

Feels Specialist! And specifically nothing to say about the news?

And specifically on the news? In March 2016, the North Koreans attacked our yacht, which did not even enter the North Korean waters. Current attack. Instead of dogging among themselves, someone thought about who is behind the DPRK. And do not forget what the attack on the U.S. intelligence pueblo in 1968 led to. Damansky also began like that.

[gispanec]

Quote: rotmistr60

Do you yourself know anything about the Juche ideas?

did you happen to knock your head on the wall this morning ???? ..... the people of Korea (north) are in poverty and hunger ... and you are talking about stupid ideas, it seems to me that you are a radical liberoid .... you want to influence this method ... through anti-popular ideas? ... if you are so overwhelmed, bring it down in Juche and vote there at least until the end of the century .... and Sev. Korea is a bunch of stupid, greedy and stupid rulers in the person of Yunov and captains of the world ... they have people for ..., the sovereign of the coast is confused ... they behave impudently ... but to love the cannibal for the fact that he does not love your enemy, it's cormorant!

[Yura]

Quote: rotmistr60

about the ideas of "Juche" though

Speaking of ideas, I think that fear played its role in this incident, that very fear - "what will they say at home and what will happen to the family", the sober assessment of the event completely disappeared, and recklessness on the wave of panic led to such a result. There is a saying “I'm not guilty because I stole, but because I got caught”, at home their actions would be assessed something like this. These are just my thoughts, I don't know what the Koreans were really motivated by, there will be a consequence, there will be explanations.

[The black]

Quote: Bayonet

Well, Juche lovers and Kim fans? Let's praise your "brothers"

Do you have reliable information that they acted on the orders of Kim and according to the Juche commandments? .... or are North Korean criminals only resisting detention?
Violated, done, received. All.

[rotmistr60]

And why does the "bayonet" need reliable information? The main thing is to poke and show that we (the Russians) are not far from the DPRK. The method tested by the liberals - when there is no answer, shout; "You want to be like the DPRK."

[cap]

Quote: rotmistr60

And why does the "bayonet" need reliable information? The main thing is to poke and show that we (the Russians) are not far from the DPRK. The method tested by the liberals - when there is no answer, shout; "You want to be like the DPRK."

Why only the DPRK, the list of liberals is quite large.
Mostly on the African continent, on which none of them was, but dreams of joining Russia to it.

[Bayonet]

Quote: rotmistr60

And why does the "bayonet" need reliable information? The main thing is to poke and show that we (the Russians) are not far from the DPRK. The method tested by the liberals - when there is no answer, shout; "You want to be like the DPRK."

The information is reliable, there was a message in all the Russian media. Why are you so turned on? "Brothers" Koreans weren't quite brothers?

[Cat man null]

Quote: Bayonet

"Brothers" Koreans weren't quite brothers?

- I remembered a joke about the Chinese and potatoes ...
- "Appreciate bite hocets" - that's the whole reason. And non-brother brothers are already secondary

[The black]

Quote: Bayonet

"Brothers" Koreans weren't quite brothers?

Well, for you, they may have "turned out to be not" brothers "... but for me personally, they never were. And in vain you are trying to be ironic here. There are few Kim fans. Unless you ... (you even know the Juche idea ) .... What we talked about about Kim earlier here was that he, as the head of the DPRK, has the right to self-defense. Moreover, knowing his odiousness and ambiguity, the Americans intentionally provoke him to all these nuclear movements. Kim himself doesn’t It’s even more beneficial for them, the very presence of such a person as Kim. This is the only way to justify the deployment of their bases in South Korea, and in the future, the deployment of nuclear weapons there. It’s a very convenient place near by the Russian Federation and China. So die your ardor

[Bayonet]

Quote: Black

Well, for you, they may be "not" brothers.

God forbid! Such "brothers" are taken out by politics!

[Simpsonian]

And how do you know about his odiousness from the unworthy American media, for which everyone else repeats? North Korea has the right to self-defense, especially after the Americans bombed Japanese peaceful cities (including nuclear ones) next to them, and then these same Americans came along with the entire UN and intervened in the inter-Korean conflict, which arose generally due to the massacres Koreans on the island of Jeju, organized by one American doctor of philosophy, who then democratically invariably ruled South Korea for over 40 years, about which (genocide) was hidden from you in Russian even in Wikipedia.
After such bombing, the whole of Switzerland buried in the earth and rocks, which exists based on internal forces not 60 but 200 years.
The truth is mainly due to chocolate from imported raw materials, and easy money from the banking business - North Korea does not sin either one or the other.
Swiss medicines, unlike watches, are for the most part not developed in Switzerland.

[0255]

Quote: rotmistr60

And why does the "bayonet" need reliable information? The main thing is to poke and show that we (the Russians) are not far from the DPRK. The method tested by the liberals - when there is no answer, shout; "You want to be like the DPRK."

Again Kim fans call liberals and liberals not Kim fans Jucheists, but you yourself don’t want everything in your country to be like in the DPRK. When there were downsides, you viciously minus the offers to go live with Kim, you yourself like living not in hunger, having the Internet, driving your own car - which the North Koreans can only dream of. You love Kim only at a distance. If you weren’t in the DPRK as a tourist, you would have howled from the North Korean realities.

[rotmistr60]

0255, at least you’ll understand within your own country, and then we’ll talk about Juche’s ideas. Where in some questions to the leader of the DPRK to your dad. They would be silent slowly on such painful topics.

[Conductor]

Where in some questions to the leader of the DPRK to your dad.

For example? Well, at least I would like to see a couple of tryouts

[rotmistr60]

Well, at least I would like to see a couple of tryouts

Strange, you live there and not only do not see anything, but also do not hear anything? Listen to what he presents to the media, especially when he is once again "offended" at Russia, and even about the mini cult of personality, you can not even talk about. It was enough at least once to see how he dragged his young son in military uniform with him to all meetings. Doesn't that tell you anything?

[Conductor]

Where in some questions to the leader of the DPRK to your dad. We would be silent on such painful topics.

So where are the painful topics? I repeat, I would like to see a couple of tryouts.
This is a cult of personality:


Where in Belarus? Maybe share the info?

Listen to what he presents to the media, especially when he is once again "offended" at Russia

I listen, of course, just throw a video

[Simpsonian]

Caught in North Korea and no one howled.
videos of western tourists are also posted on youtube.

The USSR at one time paid for the freedom of North Korea with its blood (though less than the Chinese), so they are BROTHERS to us, so that you make a sound of it ...

[Bayonet]

Quote: rotmistr60

And why does the "bayonet" need reliable information? The main thing is to poke and show that we (the Russians) are not far from the DPRK.

And what does all the normal Russians have to do with it? This is for lovers of the North Korean regime.

[rotmistr60]

There is a reason to respect the North Korean people, but this does not mean agreeing with their policies in everything. And you just need to keep your negative attitude towards them and not poke North Korea every time as soon as the conversation on this topic comes.

[Hapfri]

Do you have reliable information that they acted on the orders of Kim and according to the Juche commandments?

S. Korea is not Russia, where there are private schooners and everyone does what he wants. In S. Korea, everything is done only by order of the Party and nothing else

[Simpsonian]

they even ask when to cross the street?

[33 Watcher]

Quote: Bayonet

Well, Juche lovers and Kim fans? Let's praise your "brothers"!

Usually I do not go into your liberal-communist, and monarchist-communist showdowns. Because I do not belong to any of you. But what does Juche and Kim have to do with it? Greyhound poachers got Lyuli, one got to death - it happens.
Or are you like "Western non-volatile media", in which every Russian hacker is an FSB agent, and every Russian athlete is a soldier of the empire ..?

[PSih2097]

Quote: Observer 33

and every Russian athlete is a soldier of the empire ..?

and every Russian athlete is a soldier of the empire devouring dope by tons per day ...

[33 Watcher]

Quote: PSih2097

Quote: Observer 33

and every Russian athlete is a soldier of the empire ..?

and every Russian athlete is a soldier of the empire devouring dope by tons per day ...

Aha This is good. I'm talking about the choir to them. Alexandrov did not remember ...
But no, I still remembered

[Bayonet]

Quote: Observer 33

Yeah. It's good. I'm talking about the choir. Alexandrov did not remember ...

[BARKAS]

Quote: Bayonet

Well, Juche lovers and Kim fans? Let's praise your "brothers"!

Is Kim also to blame for our Russian poaching?

[OLD FART]

The bayonet is also great, as are the sailors of the DPRK ... Wipe our nose! In the course of these "border defenders" in prison, they would hold the DPRK (for a couple of months) ... And then send them in an inflatable boat towards Russia, so that they will remember all their life .... Razgildyai ..!

[pv1005]

Quote: STARPER

The bayonet is also great, as are the sailors of the DPRK ... Wipe our nose! In the course of these "border defenders" in prison, they would hold the DPRK (for a couple of months) ... And then send them in an inflatable boat towards Russia, so that they will remember all their life .... Razgildyai ..!

In Russian, there is a word for the letter D (it just fits the above statement), but unfortunately they banyat for it.

[Bayonet]

Quote: BARKAS

Is Kim also to blame for our Russian poaching?

The talk is not about our poaching

[Simpsonian]

about japanese?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Bayonet

Juche's jerseys and admirers of Kim

Do you think that he personally ordered them to do this? Ours also do not always behave appropriately, but this is not a reason to blame everything on the head of state.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: Bayonet

Juche's jerseys and admirers of Kim

Do you think that he personally ordered them to do this? Ours also do not always behave appropriately, but this is not a reason to blame everything on the head of state.

When you swear to the west, you are not talking about some kind of Karl or Bob - you say Merkel, Obama, etc. So here, it’s difficult to name all the poachers by name, but you’ll break your tongue!

Quote: Dart2027

Ours also do not always behave appropriately,

And do not shit on ours, a conversation about the North Koreans! Are they dearer to you?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Bayonet

When you swear to the west, you are not talking about some kind of Karl or Bob - you say Merkel, Obama

If it comes to state policy, then yes. But if some Bob got into someone's head while drunk, then it's a little different.

Quote: Bayonet

Are they to you dearer

Far from it, just give an example.

[electrooleg]

And then Juche and Eunchik? Poachers happen everywhere.

[Homo]

Quote: Bayonet

Well, Juche lovers and Kim fans? Let's praise your "brothers"!

And what does Kim have to do with it? And if so - the bandits (Russian) robbed a foreigner, you can shout "well, lovers of Putin, let's praise your brothers"! When will you start to adequately respond to information? There are Koreans, but there are poachers, violators. Bandits have no nationality!

[Gradus HuK]

Wars have relaxed! Why?

[Simpsonian]

What immediately inflamed? Himself and praise, not all of you lick the heels of the Israeli secret service ...

[Jack-b]

Quote: Bayonet

Well, Juche lovers and Kim fans? Let's praise your "brothers"!

What does Juche and Kim have to do with it? Decided to breed "srach in kamentah" from a bunch of thugs?

[ava09]

Already informed that Kim and Juche were on the ship? ))) Our border guards also fired at the Russians, who are we to blame - capitalism, socialism, Stalin, Khrushch or someone else? In my opinion, the main thing here is greed and unwillingness to bear responsibility, and not your nonsense about "brothers". By the way, why do you hate them so much, because we don’t give up or don’t like social equality?

[The leader of the Redskins]

So he bared ... socialism or what? ... Or is it already communism?

[rotmistr60]

its crew showed serious resistance, as a result of which one of the servicemen of the Border Troops of the Russian Federation was injured in the head.

This is not the first or last case of such incidents at sea. What can I say about the sea if the Chinese during the period of Putin salmon on the Amur behave almost the same. Here it is simply necessary to pay tribute to the endurance and professional actions of our border guards.

[Ruby]

They have nothing to eat there, it seems.

[33 Watcher]

Quote: Yakut

They have nothing to eat there, it seems.

Ordinary poachers. Poachers from prosperous Japan behave the same.

[BARKAS]

And to eat they decided to get to Russia as prisoners of war.

[Gormenghast]

Where there is propaganda, it’s in the DPRK. Poachers apparently heard a lot of Juche-shaped appeals.

And this despite the fact that Russia, along with China, in the UN Security Council moderately supports Koreans; does not allow to arrange a democratic orgy.

I don't even know what will happen to these poachers after they return to their native land; commands "face"From Kim Jong Un there was no.

[Kurou]

DPRK - miserable small country tucked up by the civilized world on the map ....
Sorry, but in what place?
I constantly hear that Kim is PERSONALIZING his near and distant surroundings from 20mm + anti-aircraft guns, the last case at some university ...
But about the permeability of the walls, liberalism obviously didn’t hear ... Yes, and the constantly shot people start to glow after being rubbed.
Periodic launches of cruise and ballistic missiles, including from submarines
Sorry, but this is not a production of the level "mujahid made a rocket from a piece of pipe"
this requires both education and the technological base and, in the end, the staff who can do this.
A peasant with a hoe cannot do this.
Nuclear weapons .. for its creation, a documentary and production base is required, and again personnel
So I don’t even believe in the country from the typical representatives of central Africa ..

Do not confuse yours and your owners with Wishlist reality ...
And then the template will break.

[11 black]

Quote: Kurou

DPRK - miserable small country tucked up by the civilized world on the map ....
Sorry, but in what place?
I constantly hear that Kim is PERSONALIZING his near and distant surroundings from 20mm + anti-aircraft guns, the last case at some university ...
But about the permeability of the walls, liberalism obviously didn’t hear ... Yes, and the constantly shot people start to glow after being rubbed.
Periodic launches of cruise and ballistic missiles, including from submarines
Sorry, but this is not a production of the level "mujahid made a rocket from a piece of pipe"
this requires both education and the technological base and, in the end, the staff who can do this.
A peasant with a hoe cannot do this.
Nuclear weapons .. for its creation, a documentary and production base is required, and again personnel
So I don’t even believe in the country from the typical representatives of central Africa ..

Do not confuse yours and your owners with Wishlist reality ...
And then the template will break.

IMHO - several generations, maybe they will live like that - and then, when tired, everything will be like in the Soviet Union, even worse ... well, or just the dogs will end.

[Simpsonian]

there are still a lot of dogs here, and all for toilet paper

[kolkulon]

It is necessary as in Iran, the ship without talking to the bottom, the rescue of the crew at the discretion of the captain.

[mr.redpartizan]

If the story repeats itself, then it is necessary to heat the rusty schooner with the crew in place. Poaching is one thing, but an attack on border guards is a completely different thing; you can't let it go on the brakes.

[cap]

Hungry, angry and "dad" with a vigorous "weapon. Neighbors.
There was no need to climb the schooner. We would give an order to follow to the port.
Did not obey, shoot from the wheelhouse to the waterline.
I would have looked at how much patience the captain of the schooner had. I am sure it didn’t get to the deck.
An interesting and instructive movie would work.
The Chinese (and the Japanese too) could be thrown off.
That something like this.

[Olrov2010]

Although they began to drive, as in the old Soviet times. It's not in vain that they eat bread. You need to start with all kinds of "friends". And the boat, if the one that is good in the photo. More of them!

[Starik72]

Oh, brothers, they only reported the violation and the incident, how they rushed to discuss and blame. So when they investigate and report the result of the investigation, then you can begin to discuss who is to blame. And the poachers in the whole world are the same, and they pursue one goal, the goal is LIVING. Sincerely.

[Monster_Fat]

I heard from the guys I know from the sea border guards that North Korean fishermen always behave extremely aggressively. They try not to respond to orders to stop the ship, they defiantly disobey other orders, referring to "misunderstanding", always stick to a bunch and throw themselves in a bunch. Probably so this time there were so many victims on their part. In general, the DPRK is a state that is embittered at everyone and everything, forced to really survive, and one should not expect any loyalty and respect for international law from its citizens ...

[PSih2097]

I think that on the part of our border guards there was a gross violation of instructions when inspecting a foreign ship (relaxed )

[pv1005]

Quote: PSih2097

I think that on the part of our border guards there was a gross violation of instructions when inspecting a foreign ship (relaxed )

Here we must not think, but we must operate with the facts from the protocols (procedural verification on the grounds of a crime under Part 1 of Art. 318 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation ("The use of violence that is not dangerous to life and health against a government official in connection with the performance of his duties ")). Do you have them? If not, then you are thinking wrong.

[Nemo35]

Quote: Gastat

Everything turned out pretty well, there was no military personnel among the crew of the North Korean poaching vessel, albeit retired, otherwise everything would have turned out differently, they could have easily gone to their homes in Korea. You should say and do not regret the shoulder straps that the officers of your great FSB laughed and practically became hostages. If at least one sane former military man was on a Korean ship, he would bring these FSB officers to the side of the ship and announce that for every shot towards the ship he, gentlemen, would not cut them, but would simply drown them the gentlemen of the FSBeshnikov and in such a way, without much heroism and pursuit, the North Koreans would have gone to their homes, and the FSBeshnikov would have landed on their coast.

"..and then it WOULD ... it WOULD ... could ... although WOULD ... he WOULD .... announced WOULD ... leave ... would have landed ..."

Comrade, dear, I see you understand!

[Old26]

Quote: Gastat

Everything turned out pretty well, there was no military personnel among the crew of the North Korean poaching vessel, albeit retired, otherwise everything would have turned out differently, they could have easily gone to their homes in Korea. You should say and do not regret the shoulder straps that the officers of your great FSB laughed and practically became hostages. If at least one sane former military man was on a Korean ship, he would bring these FSB officers to the side of the ship and announce that for every shot towards the ship he, gentlemen, would not cut them, but would simply drown them the gentlemen of the FSBeshnikov and in such a way, without much heroism and pursuit, the North Koreans would have gone to their homes, and the FSBeshnikov would have landed on their coast.

This means that when the Japanese are caught in the economic zone of Russia, the border guards are great. But when in our economic zone some kind of ok will drown our border guards in order to evade responsibility - here they, North Koreans, are great. So what? Are you completely obsessed with the North Koreans? And I would, in response to the "drowning" of the border guards by the North Koreans, in general, would start to sink North Korean ships in our economic zone. Without warning. And I would not fire from a large-caliber machine gun, but would call in a couple of attack aircraft or something at hand and would simply shoot. Maybe then they would stop "borzet".

Quote: Gastat

The observer, and here the Ukrainian site, I do not praise the North Koreans, I write that the FSBeshniki made a gross mistake, being practically taken hostage on a North Korean ship

They complied with the rules and norms that have existed for decades. The inspection team landed. Normal fishermen, usually realizing that they have gotten involved, stop the course. The same decided to play war games with Russia? But the face will not crack?

[Was mammoth]

The first thing that came to mind was our famous "not to give in to provocations." So, the question of the need to use weapons should be asked to higher officials. So that violators know, they will not stand on ceremony with them. Ah, the commander is well done! I'm only afraid they will torture him with checks and explanations.

[Banishing liberoids]

It was they who were starving — we had so many fish, but the border guards didn’t let us pull them in! !!

[sgazeev]

Quote: STARPER

Quote: Bayonet

Quote: STARPER

Desperate guys ..! Well done ...

Starper, these "fellows" cut our frontier guard's head, and you are happy. What a perverse patriotism!

Here along the way you are very joyful to such an applicant ...
And we will understand what the border guards were there, what was allowed ...
Look atalef your companion pulled himself up ....))) It will begin now!

There are always representatives of special services at the dog-eaters. Therefore, they rested either their head in the bushes or their chest in crosses. The sucker does not stand on ceremony, upon arrival he will resolve them.

[andrewkor]

Here with - ki, behave as a full-fledged nuclear power!

[Altona]

Quote: Tatiana

The old man is THINKINGLY on the forum "VO" chasing "stars". I already noticed this from his other comments to other articles.

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He deliberately throws provocative comments, people are being led, reacting, taking seriously. Judging by his comments, Starper in general is a supporter of the war with the USA in the toughest format. He is such a war Trotskyist.

[Yura]

Quote: Altona

Specially throws provocative comments,

He amuses himself, enlivens the branch and smiles at his mustache. By the way, sometimes it’s interesting to watch the reaction of site visitors. Sometimes it seems he deliberately releases expressions so that Vitaly will recognize him, however, a joker. Optimism has increased in him, recently he does not write that he is tired.

[Mountain shooter]

The people there, in Chuchkhyandia, have long been "oh ... ate in the attack." So they opened fire correctly. It was necessary to drown them later - there would be nothing to deal with. I remember that in the summer our yacht was seized, from Vladik ... Right into the sea, "as a pirate." This is another illustration of what sustained and targeted propaganda can do to the people. It looks like almost anyone.

[edge]

the roots are completely boring from poverty ..... to drown their newly-minted pirates

[Alexander S.]

Our border guards were too gentle and kind. Rules are good. But the life and health of the citizens of our country should be higher than foreigners.

[OLD FART]

Quote: Alexander S.

Our border guards were too gentle and kind. Rules are good. But the life and health of the citizens of our country should be higher than foreigners.

We always have time to soak ...! And your fabrications are similar to American ones ...

[passenger]

Quote: STARPER

Desperate guys ..! Well done ...

Yep, exactly. Now every urka who "planted garbage on a feather" is your hero?

[OLD FART]

Here I read all the comments and in my thoughts, just such a song in my head ..!

Just a lump in my throat ..
We all need to get together (without weapons ..))) And find out everything ..
I'm a sniper keep in mind ...

[Bayonet]

Quote: STARPER

I'm a sniper keep in mind ...

And I'm the Danish prince!

[OLD FART]

Quote: Bayonet

Quote: STARPER

I'm a sniper keep in mind ...

And I'm the Danish prince!

I didn’t doubt it, yesterday he turned his neck!

The crown prince of Denmark, Frederick, was seriously injured during a training session at the gym, the Royal House said in an official statement. He unsuccessfully jumped on a trampoline, and received a fracture of the cervical spine, reports The Local.

Now Prince Frederick will be forced to wear a special collar for at least three months.

Because of this incident, the Danish prince will not be able to attend a reception in honor of the Danish Paralympics who are invited to the royal palace. The heir to the throne stated that he regrets this.
https://www.uralweb.ru/news/crime/465347.html

[Magua-xnumx]

less need to sit on

[Simpsonian]

princess hide in emergency

[Magua-xnumx]

... or cut salads in the kitchen

[1536]

The new Kim is nothing but a homogenous generation generated by the United States, fulfilling the will of the owners. It was not for nothing that he studied in Switzerland. Americans need a zone of instability on the Korean peninsula, and Kim is its perfect component. They need neither the strengthening of South Korea, nor, moreover, the unification of the two Koreas into a single state. Because then they will be forced to eventually get out of Korea.
Regarding the incident, one must immediately call the DPRK ambassador to the Foreign Ministry and present an official note. And in words, in your ear, to say that another such incident and we will expel all Koreans who have entrenched themselves in our Far East to eat grass and pigeons.

[sigizmund472]

Hello everyone! I haven’t been here for a long time, but all the same passions. I read it, and it seems to me that all those who accuse the inspection group of something have little idea of ​​what the inspection group is in general and how it should behave on foreign territory (and the North Korean schooner is foreign territory). Well, for example, how do you imagine the use of weapons in the territory of a neighboring (or non-neighboring) country with which Russia is NOT at war? Shoot the crew? Excuse me - this will not only lead to diplomatic scandal. Shooting from military weapons to defeat in the territory of a foreign country against the citizens of this same foreign country. What would it look like? Moreover, (I'm sure) the sailors had only weapons like crowbars, sticks and the like. In a word, everything that can be thrown away immediately after application and calmly say that I am not me and not my hut. And then demonstrate the wounded or the corpses that were made by members of the viewing group. The inspection team always walks along the edge, along the very edge, bound hand and foot with instructions, instructions and so on. Although the group always has weapons, its use is a very difficult issue. Here they cited the example of Americans, they say they threw traders. They threw them from their territory, and the traders were strangers who did not have the right to enter this territory. So it’s not so simple, gentlemen ....

[fa2998]

Quote: Alexander S.

Our border guards were too tender and kind

And it is especially surprising that the ship was stopped for almost 2 hours! If there was a schooner, they could leave! DPRK is not Singapore, there is a border nearby!

[OLD FART]

Quote: fa2998

Quote: Alexander S.

Our border guards were too tender and kind

And it is especially surprising that the ship was stopped for almost 2 hours! If there was a schooner, they could leave! DPRK is not Singapore, there is a border nearby!

Next time you need to wet it with "calibers" ...)))) It's a joke ..!
But seriously, there the Japs there have polluted the entire ocean with radioactive emissions, and now everyone is cramping on our shores! It is necessary to wet from large-caliber, drive away to the shores of Japan! ...

[Simpsonian]

Maybe they told them something was wrong?

And how could a Korean be killed when shooting on a screw and a rudder?

[your1970]

reciprocal pitching + heading angles + different speeds + firing in bursts (scatter) = getting not only into the propeller-steering group

[Simpsonian]

video of such firing seen on which shells lay down just a meter away from the target? they used to boast many times before

[KENKENKEN]

.
. . . These sowing. Koreans are already tired of the only allies and the Chinese.
.

[Magua-xnumx]

yeah, they all ate dogs ... did you talk when they were with them?

I, on the contrary, do not like the southern ones, especially when they are in Russia, the majority held a grudge, and they strive to shit.

[77_78]

Well, they started talking about how many people were beaten and on what parts of the body, why they shot and who. we read the official information on the FSB website: http://www.fsb.ru/fsb/press/message/single.htm%21
id% 3D10437879% 40fsbMessage.html

[AlexG83]

And what on board could not stop the ship? What nonsense?

[pts-m]

Service is service, even if border guards have to fight the mountain serpent itself.

[tolmachiev51]

Something often, in the field of sight of the border guards, "comrades" from the DPRK began to appear. The missile test turned our heads, we felt omnipotent. Why was it necessary to land the inspection group - to order to go to the nearest port and, in case of disobedience, open fire to kill.

[Leonid Har]

Violators. With them you can not stand on ceremony.

[ALEA IACTA EST]

They got into stealing - they got it.

[Orionvit]

The DPRK Consulate in Vladivostok was informed about the incident in the Sea of ​​Japan.

Interestingly, and what is the consulate?

[Normal ok]

Scha Kim threatens Russia with a nuclear missile

[Alexdark]

Lucky fishermen, they will get to Vladivostok, they will devour from the belly. They are tired of a bowl of rice for the family once every half a year ... Roughly speaking. P, SA A screaming woman from their TV will say that they heroically scattered all FSB officers. Yes, yes, they have their whole vision. It turns out they win all the Olympiads, the World Cup and others, they win other top achievements. Kim does not skimp on fairy tales. As the saying goes, "Glory to Kim Jong Un, Juche glory!"

[CONTROL]

Quote: Koshak

Quote: STARPER

we will understand what the border guards were there, what was allowed ...

" Who are "we? I get fucked up by such "investigators"

... Are you getting sick?
You are doing it right! Faithful dear ...
... although it would seem that there is nowhere else to "fucking"?! ...

[mamont5]

Quote: STARPER

Our border guards have a good lesson ...! Gouging ....

And why are they "gouging"? They acted in accordance with the instructions, and no one is immune from excesses.

[MneMorizz]

Koreans got in the face and rightly. Ours strangely relaxed, allowed us to dangerously injure the fighter. For this, someone should be significantly lowered / removed / planted.
Juche is funny next to Chegevara in the club and in the kitchen. In physical contact, they are apparently different

[Saint George]

"and it should be" - since when does the injured party need to be made more injured?

[MneMorizz]

this is a brazen side. And speaking the legal language, there is an offense, the subject of which is the citizens of the DPRK, and the object is the interests of the Russian Federation in this region, as well as the health of employees of the Navy and the FSB of Russia who performed their work, that is, official duties. Damage to the attacker in this case is justified by the laws of all sovereign states and international law

[MneMorizz]

Sorry, I didn’t understand that you didn’t understand me. In my post, I indistinctly expressed my thought

[Elevator in the building]

But really, what is the North Korean media reporting about this incident?

[Alex 2016]

Stop sussing with everyone. Drown them all at once, rotten people, they are all Asians. Yes and Europids are the same scum.

[Saint George]

Simpsonian,
No one was even going to shoot in the leg. They shot at the engine compartment of the ship. All according to the instructions.

And no Foreign Ministry of any country can do anything here. This has already happened more than once. I already said that they killed both Japanese sailors and Chinese. The poachers themselves are to blame. If they obeyed the instructions of the border guards, everything would be normal for them. You can not resist the border guards in violation of the border.

[Saint George]

Simpsonian,
According to the instructions, border guards have the right to open fire to kill to catch a vessel that violated the border and does not obey the instructions of the border guards. Everything is in accordance with the norms of both Russian law and international.

[Simpsonian]

Zveruga,
it was written that they shot at the screw-steering group, and not at the engine compartment

you can’t kill people because you just wanted to, and America especially does not like some of them (more than everyone else).

[NGK]

Quote: Sovetskiy

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Desperate guys ..! Well done ...
Our border guards have a good lesson ...! Gouging ....
And if the message read "When crossing the border to the UK, the violators resisted the soldiers of the PV FSB of the Russian Federation and one border guard was seriously wounded", would you make the same comment? I doubt it.

For especially patriotic ones, I translate in Russian what I said as I see "STARPER": When detained, our border guards either relaxed the "rolls", not expecting resistance (although they could have guessed from which country the ship was), or the preparation was "lame". And the North Koreans simply: Either you followed the order (in this case, the captain of the ship) or the shooting. Let me remind you that there is still war communism there. The third option: the tolerant policy of our leadership towards the very fact of detention. Why fellows ...? Well then.
Recall that at the official level, our authorities didn’t strongly support the DPRK, even against it, they supported all sorts of American sanctions against North Korea. I mean, at least not friends. Further. Any ship is the legal territory of the country to which it belongs. The Koreans tried to defend their territory, independently violating a ship whose laws or not. And now the question. What did our fishermen do when they were detained (several cases) Norwegian border guards (note!) in the disputed economic zone? At least one Norway was handed over a hill because they violated the Russian state border by their appearance on the ship? Are the ship guns scared? But the Koreans were not afraid, although one died.
One case according to the third option (see above).
In the 90s he worked in the merchant marine. We came to Port Said (Egypt). Merchants with rags immediately ran onto the ship and occupied all the aisles up to the wardroom, setting up a bazaar. The port guard turned a blind eye to all this, because it feeds from them. The team itself suggested to the captain: "Let us now cram the heads and drive all the traders out in the back." The response from the authorities followed: "Don't touch it. The party's policy is that Russians are kind people." ??? Note, even to the detriment of the Russians themselves! I mean, all the brazen grimy rabble are our friends?
In contrast.
A tanker under the flag of the USA was passing by the entrance to Suez.
Right on the move, the same traders on boats on the abandoned "cats" got up and arranged on the deck the same bazaar as we have .... Frostbite people - they did not understand where they climbed).
What have the Americans done? They threw this "bazaar" along with the traders overboard right in the course of the ship ...
Awful?) Inhuman?) Not tolerant?)
But the Americans simply defended their territory, unlike the Russians, specifically in our example.
What do you think, who at that moment I respected on such an example?
So while the Russians themselves will allow themselves to ride with their legs dangling, then not only the North Koreans will "lay down" on us, violating the border, but also popuasses from some Guinea, not understanding "the kind, Russian breadth of soul." Something like this.

Buddy! Well, confess that you told the sea bike! No party policy in the 90s was discussed at the courts! And when passing the Suez, merchants always come aboard the ship and are present all the time the canal passes. They behave quite decently, because they are also mooring operators and they have licenses to trade. Sailors treat them favorably - they buy papyrus, figurines, key chains and other trifles with pleasure. I had to go through Suez many times under different flags, with sailors of many nations and all of them were greeted in the same way - especially Europeans, Britons, and this was on the Schell gas carrier, they enjoyed souvenirs like children, and then they showed them to each other for a week. This story about a tanker flying the American flag was back in the 80s. Steamers flying the American flag have long been no longer in the vast seas, except that only in the States themselves or in the Mexican one can be seen, and that is very rare - usually unimaginable junk with almost steam engines. Yes, and also, the sailor will never say that he was "on a merchant ship." Sorry if offended, not out of malice!