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Vatnik. Debalcevo: the decisive boiler of the Ukrainian Armed Forces

Debaltsevsky boiler became the third major, in fact - the decisive boiler APU. As a result of the hostilities of the army of the DPR and the LPR, the protrusion between Gorlovka and Komissarovka was cut off. On this ledge, the Ukrainian troops were preparing an offensive to dismember the republics, and from the same bulge they fired at the territories of the LC and the DPR.

Debaltsevo is one of the largest railway hubs of the former Ukraine, which, in particular, provides communication between the new republics. The strategic location of Debaltseve is obvious - one has only to look at the map.

And one more factor. By winter, the Ukrainian troops came to their senses after the defeat at Ilovaisk. They woke up so much that they decided to “score” on the Minsk agreements concluded after the Ilovaisk boiler.

Where the APU encountered at least an equal opponent, they suffered epic losses throughout the war. Ukrainians kicked out of the Crimea almost kicks. Under the Metalworker, militia members who were dispersed and stripped with almost one rifle weapons crushed the battalion "Aydar" and came to the aid of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Under Izvarino and Ilovaiskaya, the Ukrainians were already crumbled on an industrial scale - except for those who ran to the rear for "rearmament." Lugansk and Donetsk airports, symbols of Ukrainian propaganda, are seized by the militia.

Debaltseve hold for Ukrainians was a crucial moment. Who had to rehabilitate the Ukrainian army and command in the eyes of the public.

Part of our division participated in the Debaltsevskoy operation in the infantry. We passed all Debaltseve, including the final assault on the height. Much of what is said here is seen with my own eyes.

Significant factor. Under Izvarino and under Ilovaisk, the VSN acted defensively, and under Debaltseve they launched an offensive. The leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine simply had to show that their army is capable of acting at least in defense.

Plus - the Ukrainian leadership needed revenge. Therefore, having gained strength, the Ukrainians forgot Minsk-1, which allowed them not to lose the army at all, and as a provocation they turned to massive shelling of the civilian population. Provocation gave the result.

The generally accepted start date of the active phase is 22,01,2015. At this point, the number of groups of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, according to various sources, ranged from 5 to 8 thousand people. Located in pre-prepared and equipped fortified areas, armed with a large number of artillery and armored vehicles, and supplied with a very large number of ammunition and food.

Local residents claimed that several units of foreign mercenaries were fighting against us, besides the Ukrainians. This seems to be true - the general style of the war of Ukrainians was too different from the style of war of some units.
From the Ukrainian side, according to official figures, the defense was held: 1 separate tank brigade, 30th guards separate mechanized brigade, tactical group of 17 tank brigades, 128 separate mountain infantry brigade, 25 Dnepropetrovsk airborne brigade, battalions Chernihiv, Kievan Rus, Rukh Opor, battalion PPS ON Kiev-2 ”,“ Krivbass ”, NSU, the battalion“ Donbass ”, the battalion named“ Kulchitsky ”, OMON, the company of the Ministry of Internal Affairs“ Svityaz ”, as well as the battalion named after Jorakh Dudaev. And, of course, the regular Ukrainian Armed Forces detachment - PS.

For armored vehicles, heavy weapons, ammunition and ammunition, the Ukrainians had a full unlimited.

On the part of the LC and the DPR, the AK of the DPR, the Kalmius brigade, the NM of the LC, the Ghost brigade, the Don Cossacks and the Cossack National Guard participated in the assault.

I can not say how it was in the DNI, we went infantry almost all. There was only one problem - in our division volunteers turned out to be significantly more than the vacancies announced from headquarters. Therefore, officers, soldiers and sergeants were selected mainly those who fought from the very beginning.

VSN Ukrainians voluntarily or unwittingly helped. The British newspaper "Sunday Times" noted the extremely low moral level of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as the fact that Ukrainians from an average of 6 died from 10 from the "friendly fire" of Ukrainians (this is when they shoot at their own) among Ukrainians.

Course of events. Meat grinder began 22,01,2015, what is happening quickly turned into a large-scale operation with tanks, artillery and MLRS. Further, the assessment of events diverges - everyone, except Ukrainians, saw the formed pot. UkrSMI to the beginning of February cheerfully reported that they repulsed the enemy's attack, but at the same time somehow lost several settlements.

By the beginning of February, there was a lull at the front, during which more than 5000 civilians were withdrawn.

February 5 republic forces after 10-day battles took control of Uglegorsk. This was the turning point of the operation.

7 February APU lost the village Redkodub, 9 February - released from Ukrainians Logvinovo. Through the village passes the highway M103 Artyomovsk - Debaltsevo, which supplied the Ukrainians.

10 February trail blocked. So the boiler slammed shut. For all but the command of the APU. February 11 optimistic Minister of Defense of Ukraine Stepan Poltorak said that there is no boiler, the supply and control of troops are carried out without interference.

In reality, the BCH faced an enemy blocked in well-prepared fortified areas.

Dugouts from the Ukrainians were good. We spent the night in one of them and had the opportunity to take a closer look. In addition to the 3-4 layers of concrete floors, there was a relaxation zone in the dugout.

There were patriotic children's drawings, as well as a bulbulator with a package of hemp, and pornographic magazines with wipes for hands. It was immediately obvious that the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine tried to take into account even the intellectual needs of subordinates.

February 12. VSU from both sides tried to attack Logvinovo, but were repulsed. In general, everything became clear, and 11-12 of February concluded new Minsk agreements, according to which the Ukrainians were allowed to get out of February for good health with 0-00 15 of February.

14 February APU, taking advantage of a truce, blow up in Debalcevo railway tracks and infrastructure facilities. The retreat begins, but the stripping continues with battles.

February 17 most of Debaltseve comes under the control of the LC-DNI, more than 100 Ukrainian military are captured.

We saw prisoners who in the 20-degree frost came out to surrender, their legs were wrapped in rags, newspapers and magazines, and all this was tied up with bandages. According to the Ukrainians, the officers fled at night and stole the soldiers from the soldiers so that the soldiers "did not retreat."

By February 18 all Ukrainians were expelled from Debaltseve.

About the results. According to the BCH, the Ukrainians in the boiler lost up to 3000 people. There are really a lot of trophies from the APU. Helmets, bulletproof vests, bushes, binoculars, sleeping bags and crackers were found in full dugouts. The artillerymen are grateful to the Ukrainians for the guns and the RSZO, the tankers for the captured tanks, the infantry for the BTR, BMP, BRDM and trucks. Ammunition took railroad trains.

Predictably, the parties differed sharply in the assessment of events. An anonymous sober of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko, chronically located in the "blue" sector of Nirvana, did not see the boiler from there at all. Some sofa ukroSMI enthusiastically wrote about the victory of Ukrainians in Debaltseve.

February 20 Assistant Minister of Defense of Ukraine Yuri Biryukov said that the Ukrainian military killed 179 in the battles in the area of ​​Debaltsev. All the rest, according to the Ukrainian tradition, were recorded as “missing”.

The value of the Debaltsev operation is hard to overestimate. VSN showed that they can win the Ukrainians not only in defense, but also in the offensive. As a result, the boiler was released key transport hub Debaltsevo and established a new line of demarcation. And, of course, the BCH supplemented with a large number of captured equipment and ammunition.

There is a rule of civil war, bred by the Americans, who are so fond of Ukrainians: "If the separatists persevered against the central government for more than 2 months, you need to negotiate with them." In the month of 2, people, equipment, resources are pulled up, diplomatic efforts are included, and the central authorities will not be able to solve the problem with a rash or a zerg rush.

The Debaltsevskiy boiler became the next and most striking proof of this thesis in the civil war in Ukraine.

I almost forgot. October 14 - 2 anniversary of the appointment of Stepan Poltorak, "Baron Debaltsevskiy" to the post of Minister of Defense of Ukraine. I would like to congratulate Stepan Timofeevich and wish him to command the APU further, as he commanded under Debaltseve. And supply the BCH with ammunition and equipment in the same way.
Vatnik. Debalcevo: the decisive boiler of the Ukrainian Armed Forces


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  1. cumastra1
    cumastra1 15 October 2016 09: 01
    Briefly, succinctly, understandably. No hurray - hats. => +
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 15 October 2016 09: 57
      Without "hurray - shapkozakidatelstva"? !! Yes, in the article, in my opinion, there is more pathos than letters. No, I absolutely do not argue with history. It was all there. Both Ilovaisk and Debaltsevo ... But ...
      If the offensive went so smoothly and the dill surrendered in batches, then why did so little reclaim their land? Were there calls "to Kiev", "to Lvov"? I, of course, exaggerate this, but after all, it was possible to drive away even further, so that in peaceful quarters they could not finish off with guns ...
      As the author slippily remembered the Donetsk airport ... Ah, here ... Donetsk airports - symbolic for Ukrainian propaganda symbols - captured by militia It’s also a victory, but what about the memorial plaque installed in the Moscow region for those who died in the FIRST battle for the Donetsk airport? Only there about forty names! This is the inhabitants of the Moscow region ... And here they pour into our ears about hundreds of surrendering dill. Or is the concept of Pyrrhic victory unfamiliar to the author?
      I am already silent about porn magazines, a bulbulator and legs wrapped in rags and newspapers. No photos, no videos, just words. It’s even hard for me to imagine a picture of an officer coming into the dugout to his subordinates and ordering them to take off their shoes. Soldiers - angry, hungry, frozen, lay their arms aside and begin to take off their shoes. If anyone could imagine - congratulations. Act two - begins to drag shoes into the truck. Or on foot to the rear? Yes, he would have been shot and dug in place for this !!!
      I will not argue whether or not the author of the article participated in the defeat of the Debaltsevsky cauldron, but the article presented by him resembles the work of a secondary school student!
      1. Normal ok
        Normal ok 15 October 2016 12: 49
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Yes, in my article, in my opinion, there is more pathos than letters!

        How else? Information war type.
        Here, on VO, immediately after the capture of Debaltseve, the article was from a participant in the events (a volunteer from Russia): "How they took Debaltseve." I recommend reading it - it is very instructive. There it was written: about carelessness, about large losses of the DPR / LPR Aryans, desertion and sabotage among the local soldiers of the Supreme Soviet, and about strong motivation and stubborn resistance of the AFU. In general, nothing to do with this scribble. And the video of that time: how the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine fought to the last in complete encirclement and without food and heavy weapons, do not speak in favor of this article.
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 15 October 2016 14: 38
          Thanks. I re-read the article you indicated and, believe me, I learned a lot of new things for myself. I advise the rest of the "sofa" warriors and analysts to carefully re-read. Maybe then the shapkozakidatelstvo will reduce its size?
          1. Uncle Murzik
            Uncle Murzik 16 October 2016 09: 04
            Yes, despite your verbal diarrhea Debaltseve like Donetsk airport for the militia! soldier and Pyrrhic victory or not, not for you to judge sitting also on the couch!
  2. Monarchist
    Monarchist 15 October 2016 10: 55
    Here "The Leader of the Redskins" wrote a poisonous-clever comment. Let's see what we can agree with: the author of the article thickened the colors a little: about the soldiers whose ankle boots were rubbed by the officers. I agree, it sounds a little fantastic, but this cartoon could have been moved by the Armed Forces themselves: "we are poor and forced, and the officers are to blame for everything, they even took our shoes off" enough to recall the period of the Civil War of 1918-1922.
    But the "Leader" focused all his attention on the ankle boots and what the author casually mentioned - Donetsk airport, but the "leader" kept silent about the large trophies left by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    About pornographic magazines in the dugouts of the Armed Forces of Ukraine "leader" also does not want to believe. Dear, if you are a Puritan, it is not a fact that all Puritan
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 15 October 2016 13: 34
      Yes my goodness! I watch porn magazines myself! But! ... The chief (commander, defense minister) does not bring them to me - I buy it myself if I liked the face.
      Trophies? Honestly, I haven't been there, I don't know. Did you believe in the trophy line? Okay. I won't even argue! To whom and five boxes of cartridges - luck, and for whom and the composition with shells - a drop in the ocean. Again, where are the numbers, photos and videos. Go to some Ukrainian resources - they celebrate the Debaltsevo tragedy as a great victory! Moreover, with numbers, data. And then what? Epistolary genre? Already tired of reading about "peremogi" on both sides! And I do not advise you. Let's wait another year - it will appear. If DPR-LPR is organized, I will take off my hat, if not - you admit on the fields of the Internet that you have been leading you by the nose for three years.
        ALEXEY VLADIMIROVICH 16 October 2016 17: 31
        dead in the FIRST battle for the Donetsk airport? Only there about forty names!
        The battle for the airport with heavy losses took place on May 26, 2014, when they basically did not fight, but "agreed." And more than 40 anti-fascists from the Southeast Interbrigade, most of them died not in the battle with the Ukrainians, but from the fire of the DPR fighters from the battalion "East" of Khodakovsky on the streets of Donetsk. Why Khodakovsky staged a massacre of volunteers is a separate question
  3. Retvizan
    Retvizan 15 October 2016 13: 55
    so come down. More such articles, more caps.
    True, then ordinary people always suffer, soldiers die. Because hats give birth only to defeat!
    Therefore, they should be on the head, not in the air!
    Excuse me, what level is this article designed for? So that we believe that the BCH is so invincible that without the Wentorg (anlim, if similar to the article) and the winds, it took everything and organized everything, and the APU generally gave up immediately and ran, ran, ran, naked bloated?
    Then you just need to delete a bunch of articles about Debaltseve on VO. You cannot slide down to the level of "nodding" articles on such a site. One gets the impression that all articles are aimed at creating a sustainable hap.
    1. Kostya Andreev
      Kostya Andreev 15 October 2016 19: 28
      Dear retvizan, it’s too late to urge you not to slide. Earlier here, articles were more interesting and adequate comments. And now urapatriotizma rolls over. a complete desire not to listen to other people's opinions, and the comments of many readers are a set of continuous slogans and appeals.
      And as for the article, the author and our military on the hemp warrior did not indulge, did not try to melt the stove with gunpowder and so on and so forth. I think it was possible to find porn. This is a warrior!
      The author and you do not want to write about the dead Russian volunteers?
      1. tomket
        tomket 16 October 2016 03: 07
        Quote: Kostya Andreev
        The author and you do not want to write about the dead Russian volunteers?

        They, as in the APU, apparently do not. And if someone declares that there are, then he is automatically a traitor and a traitor.
  4. tomket
    tomket 16 October 2016 03: 23
    After reading about how bad things are happening in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, a thought creeps in, and why didn’t the grateful tank artillery infantry with trophy wagons reach Kiev? But after reading the article how they took Debaltseve, it becomes clear why they organized Minsk-2.
  5. Gamer
    Gamer 17 October 2016 16: 18
    According to the BCH, Ukrainians lost up to 3000 people in the boiler

    the author smokes something
    1. Uncle Murzik
      Uncle Murzik 18 October 2016 10: 54
      Yes, there are no losses from the Armed Forces of Ukraine; only six mobilization took place in Ukraine, and why? lol