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Why Russia has no chance to release the Syrian Aleppo. not yet

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Why Russia has no chance to release the Syrian Aleppo. not yet



The battle for Aleppo has not six months, and 5 years. So many years ago, the militants first came to this Syrian region. And since then no forces can bring order and stability. It's not just the differences of the Security Council. There are far more material reasons for Aleppo to remain on fire.

The reasons. In Aleppo, the militants entered 2012 year. Since then, the population of Aleppo has almost quadrupled. The fighting here does not subside for a minute: it is a strategically important settlement, and to take control of it completely means to occupy the north. From here to the Turkish border a little less than a hundred kilometers along the federal highway. That is why the militants are trying to do everything so as not to give up their positions.

1. Map designations of the federal highways, they are also highways connecting the largest cities of Syria. All roads lead here. In addition, control over Aleppo = control of the entire Syrian north (the federal highway is a major road connecting the largest cities in the country).



2. And this is a map of the main oil fields and oil market points:
- Smuggling route - smuggling route.
- Primary oil route - the official route of oil transportation.
- Mobile refinety - mobile processing plants.

As I said, all roads lead to Aleppo, and Erdogan for Moscow is a so-so friend.

Aleppo needs to export money and oil. And no control of Idlib, which is officially considered the base of An-Nusra, will not help with this. Only Aleppo. Well, and, of course, Dair ez-Zor. And between these two cities what? True, the capital and main city of IG is Raqqa. All ingenious is simple. I already wrote about how much IG takes out of Syria and how much it earns.



3. Why not make a corridor for local output? More precisely, they are already there. In February, July and September, Russia, together with the Syrian government, tried to crank the humanitarian operation in Aleppo: at least three corridors for civilians and one for militants with weapons and technology. So why can't we use them?



Firstly, because the corridors are instantly mined by the militants.
Many residents tried to leave the territory occupied by terrorists, but the militants shot the fugitives. For example, October 6 in several districts, including Al-Huluk, near the Umar bin Khatab mosque, residents set the state flags of Syria, and about forty families attempted to leave the territory controlled by the militants. Fire was opened on them. Three people were detained and publicly executed by terrorists, the rest were forcibly returned.

Civilians are being bombarded with “Hellfire”, this leads to huge numbers of victims, and humanitarian aid along with medical assistance never reaches the addressees because of the mined roads.

In addition, they began a total forced mobilization and forced to fight even children, mobilized men in Syria under arms.

Secondly, because the SAA and VKS of the Russian Federation will not really allow people to be brought out of Aleppo. Because then aviation he will be able to bomb Aleppo without hesitation, without fear that, along with the militants, the Syrian population will also be affected. So, Aleppo will be able to occupy the Assad army, take control of Turkey. Against the former, the whole West with their indefatigably immoderate opposition, against the latter, Kurdish formations supported by the West. No matter how much we try to save people, the main task of the terrorists now is to prevent the city from being empty.

Thirdly, if the peaceful population is released along the corridors, the militants will automatically lose their human shields and hostages from the environment in which, if necessary, they easily dissolve, depicting artisans during the day, and turning at night to jihadists.

4. The reason I didn’t want to believe for a long time, but it seems I have to. The fact is that the greatest number of Syrian refugees falls on Aleppo and the areas located nearby. And almost all of these people, who, let me remind you, are already 5 years away from their homes, say they are ready to return to liberated Aleppo.

And just imagine what a huge layer of problems Europe will get rid of if at least some of the refugees return home. Meanwhile, the destabilization of Europe and neighboring states will greatly weaken. It looks like a fantastic conspiracy, but if we already have documents declaring grants to destabilize countries, then why should we exclude that refugees are a weapon to destabilize the eurozone (and with it the euro as the main competitor of the dollar)?

Assad. In an interview that Syrian President Bashar Asad gave to a Russian newspaper, he mentioned the following: “Before that, there was a so-called American alliance, whose actions look illusory, they did nothing. ISIL and Al-Nusra (banned in Russia) and other countries) were advancing, had a huge number of militants. Moreover, the recruitment of terrorists only intensified. They received more and more oil for export through Turkey. But after Russian intervention, the territory controlled by terrorists decreased. say, the Russians have changed the balance of ground forces not in favor of the terrorists. "

And now we will return to the map with the main oil traffic location. Well, is there any doubt that Aleppo is the center of the Syrian war?

Obama and the Security Council. Today Barack Obama will hold a regular meeting on the Syrian issue.

"... the source considers it more likely that the US will allow the allies to begin supplying groups of the Syrian opposition that have been tested by the American side with more advanced weapons than previously supplied. These new weapons systems will not have to include man-portable air defense systems, reports Reuters. "

It is believed that Obama will be offered to strike at Assad’s positions, but if Washington supports the decision to provide the opposition forces with more advanced weapons, including aircraft, which will certainly be in the hands of terrorist groups, as it was for many years in a row, then Obama's hands will not be stained with blood. All the dirty work again will do the IG and co. Then the goal will be achieved, and the person saved.

In general, the latest trends in the White House very well explain the presence of C-300 and C-400 near our bases in Tartus and Hamim. If the United States really strengthens the "moderate opposition", which, according to Assad, does not exist, then the reason for the deployment of our air defense is the most significant.

Thus, Aleppo is a concentrate of interests of economic, energy, logistic and geopolitical. Therefore, the desperate attempts of the Russian Federation to stabilize the situation are broken by the US pofigism, which simply ignore any agreements. Of course, it seems like you can’t publicly refuse to restore order, so the papers on the silence mode were signed. Only there is no one to carry them out.

Based on the fact that a large-scale operation is planned in Iraq’s Mosul and, possibly, the supply of new weapons, the resolution of the Aleppo issue will not appear until November. And there is already a new head of the White House, and a completely different one. story.
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  1. hirurg
    hirurg 18 October 2016 13: 10
    +5
    Why Russia has no chance to release the Syrian Aleppo. not yet
    Therefore, the desperate attempts of the Russian Federation to stabilize the situation are broken up by the US indifference
    So stabilize or release? Do not you find different terms?
    Well, there are always chances.
    1. Vend
      Vend 18 October 2016 13: 22
      +11
      Why Russia has no chance to free Syrian Aleppo

      In fact, it is not Russia that liberates Aleppo, but the Syrian army, and the Russian air forces help in this.
      Therefore, the desperate attempts of the Russian Federation to stabilize the situation
      Well, right from the last effort we are trying laughing The author is engaged in the substitution of concepts and verbal juggling.
      Based on the fact that a large-scale operation is planned in Iraqi Mosul
      On the face right there is a worship of Western forces.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 18 October 2016 13: 35
        +4
        Well, straight from the last forces we are trying to laugh. The author is engaged in the substitution of concepts and verbal juggling.


        I agree ... it is very noticeable. hi
        1. DMoroz
          DMoroz 18 October 2016 14: 25
          +4
          and this pearl is generally a bomb
          Secondly, because CAA and Russian Aerospace Forces will not allow people to truly withdraw from Aleppo. Because then aviation will be able to bomb Aleppo without hesitation, without fear that the Syrian population will also be affected by the militants. .... No matter how much we try to save people, the main task of the terrorists now is to prevent the city from being empty.
          1. iConst
            iConst 18 October 2016 16: 56
            +1
            Quote: DMoroz
            and this pearl is generally a bomb
            Secondly, because CAA and Russian Aerospace Forces will not allow people to truly withdraw from Aleppo. Because then aviation will be able to bomb Aleppo without hesitation, without fear that the Syrian population will also be affected by the militants. .... No matter how much we try to save people, the main task of the terrorists now is to prevent the city from being empty.

            The mighty Russian language.
            You do not understand - the Americans will not allow the Syrians and ours to carry out the withdrawal of people from Aleppo.
            Precisely because it will be possible to stupidly level the neighborhoods with the earth and this enclave will quickly cease to exist.

            And now there is a long, with great losses of SAA, picking out barmaley from houses. Aviation cannot strike populated areas.
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      2. Asadullah
        Asadullah 18 October 2016 15: 19
        +5
        On the face right there is a worship of Western forces.


        This admiration is probably the brightest spot among the perfect nonsense ..... to flog such game, and to admit that a hundred eyes will read it through force, out of respect for the resource, well, well, apparently the author is a rich man ....
      3. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 18 October 2016 20: 01
        +3
        Quote: Wend
        Wend Today, 13: 22 ↑
        Why Russia has no chance to free Syrian Aleppo

        at the beginning of the article I understood: Monzolev's ... his style is already recognizable, like the nonsense written by him, from the prologue to the epilogue ... advice: do not read, because it is utter nonsense ... it seems to me that this is written - "boria-wikipedia -nadezhdin "...- if you know this from the traditions of Soloviev ...
      4. BRONEVIK
        BRONEVIK 13 December 2016 06: 47
        +15
        Yes, there are always chances. Especially in Russia! Syrian army, VKS, corps of Guardians of the Islamic Revolution. Amplification more than. A matter of time (near) and technology. Incidentally, street fighting is probably the most difficult form of battle. So everything will be - as soon as possible
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 18 October 2016 20: 46
      +2
      this branch is dangerous for the psyche ... such a bunch .... den of trolls! run people! (moderators where are you?) p / s-I'm afraid to get an answer in a rhyme ...
  2. Engineer
    Engineer 18 October 2016 13: 21
    +9
    Because it is necessary to press, not giving the breath to the Ishilians, and today Shoigu was forced to take a break in the raids again, which means the Ishilovs are now regrouping, pulling in fresh forces, weapons, medicines ... and starting all over again.
    1. agent russia
      agent russia 18 October 2016 13: 29
      0
      well, just a break for 8 hours ........... and the Syrians also need to take a breath hi
    2. cap
      cap 18 October 2016 14: 01
      +1
      Quote: Engineer
      Because it is necessary to press, not giving the breath to the Ishilians, and today Shoigu was forced to take a break in the raids again, which means the Ishilovs are now regrouping, pulling in fresh forces, weapons, medicines ... and starting all over again.


      I agree, if there is a respite, then we and them. The rest is demagogy.
      Crush like cockroaches, the condition is one weapon on the ground and hands above your head.

      Here are the words of General Shamanov (now a State Duma deputy),
      “But what’s most important - it’s right that we identified two corridors for these bandits,” the parliamentarian continued. “The biggest thing that makes me happy is that they started shaving their beards. They are on the right track to stay alive, ”he concluded, once again advising the terrorists to“ shave. ”
  3. sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 18 October 2016 13: 26
    +7
    The author seems to have not figured out what was happening there, but to write analytical articles there. IS for the United States is almost the same as for France a foreign legion and the war is not for the liberation of Syria, but between the United States and Russia, since IS in 2014 is almost ripe for the capture of the southern regions of Russia and the countries of Central Asia. The author, go teach materiel, and then, as they say, "I look in the book, I see f * gu."
  4. okko077
    okko077 18 October 2016 13: 53
    +6
    From the point of view of the military, I do not understand such a formulation of the question. First, it is necessary to ensure round-the-clock information monitoring of the approaches to the city. To do this, deploy an information center with operators, even at our base in Khomeini. Organize patrolling UAVs and stationary air posts with equipment (balloons, airships), including false, constant surveillance and target designation. Use Tu-214R reconnaissance aircraft around the clock, in patrol mode. Provide target designation and interaction with ground and air weapons, including the Syrian information center in Khomeini. Secondly, close roads to the North and East, mine, bomb, notify the population and again use the control. Suggest, humanitarian crust routes, only along the routes controlled by the Syrian army ...... Destroy everything that moves from foreign directions day and night .... Another thing is that we do not have such technical capabilities. We can not determine the coordinates of targets in real time and we can’t transfer them for use by means of destruction. Our Tu-214R scout turns out to not direct anyone anywhere, he simply writes down the results of reconnaissance on media, followed by decryption after landing .... And so everywhere ..... We have an army and a videoconferencing system with media and intelligence at the level of World War II .... That's why we cannot win in Aleppo. There is a technical lag in the information plan, inability to conduct network-centric wars, inability to conduct a modern war using advanced information tools . It seems that there is all the potency, but we are not able to use effectively disparate systems. There are no global information systems that ensure the interaction of intelligence and weapons in real time using computer control systems and analysis ...
    1. Rom14
      Rom14 18 October 2016 15: 09
      +2
      But what about the companions of spy !? which even measure the temperature of the stub ??? And in my opinion, this tyagomotin is very useful to someone ... A company of snipers and flamethrowers with flies and not a single slot can save, and you don’t need to go to the frontal .. Well, Aleppo is not Afghanistan and they’re more visible, they will make victory.
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    2. Asadullah
      Asadullah 18 October 2016 15: 23
      +1
      . That’s why, we cannot win in Aleppo. The technical lag in the information plan, the inability to conduct network-centric wars, the inability to conduct a modern war using advanced information tools.


      I see, you’re straight from Aleppo. Have you seen what the common ground in the city looks like? Look before you write nonsense.
      1. okko077
        okko077 18 October 2016 15: 40
        +1
        Learn to read. Block roads and approaches, not your brains ....
    3. Monarchist
      Monarchist 18 October 2016 17: 21
      0
      So get S.K. how to fight
  5. Uncle Murzik
    Uncle Murzik 18 October 2016 13: 58
    +2
    better Andryusha Manzolevsky was engaged in web design and programming! another expert lol
    1. okko077
      okko077 18 October 2016 14: 19
      +1
      Well, sit still, and watch the Syrians shed blood, and we can only arrange armistice and humanitarian corridors .....
      1. Uncle Murzik
        Uncle Murzik 18 October 2016 17: 28
        +2
        okko077 you can not sit and do not look forward to Syria as a volunteer! lol
        1. okko077
          okko077 18 October 2016 17: 55
          0
          There is an option, but we need to prepare. There are many volunteers, but few people know what to do and what they need to do. Through .... Moscow .... I’ll go ....
  6. gg.na
    gg.na 18 October 2016 14: 18
    +1
    Russia has no chance to free Syrian Aleppo

    Why is it a fright belay no chance then ?! lol Who said there is no chance ?! RUSSIA wants to take Aleppo politically, that is, without military intervention so that the final capture would be political and not military. BUT !!!!! If it doesn’t come out by political means to take Aleppo then it will be the second option in the unusual way we take the city !!! At the same time, destroying ALL militants, both from the opposition of the moderate and non-moderate igilovites bully without sorting am !!! So whatever one may say, Aleppo will be taken! As in its time, Palmyra good was taken lol !!!
  7. nik1321
    nik1321 18 October 2016 14: 42
    0
    I don’t know how anyone, but I believe in the Russian army and the VKS, in spite of all its problems. Aleppo is a city and nothing more, though there are a lot of militants and are well armed. But there are no cities that can not be taken. There are only armies that cannot do this and a lot in this case depends on those who lead them. So while nothing has been decided, time will tell. Nevertheless, I hope that our military command and advisers are aware of the situation.
    1. okko077
      okko077 18 October 2016 15: 47
      +5
      Our military command tells us tales about the power of the army, but in reality, it turns out, it does not know how. We have excellent soldiers and officers, excellent weapons, but they did not learn to fight without losses, thinking in a new way. Only valuable heroism and death, not skills and thoughts. Our army is technically backward, we don’t know and don’t see where the enemy is. We don’t know how to find and destroy it without visual contact .... Syria has shown all the technical and informational backwardness of our intelligence and tactics of modern warfare. Ideal, greenhouse conditions. Partisans cannot defeat. The experience of Afghanistan has not taught anything .... We have not made a single step forward. And the commanders of the same ...
      1. okko077
        okko077 18 October 2016 16: 13
        +5
        Sagittarius and Warrior counts our soldiers, cartridges, draws routes .... And who will count and see the enemy, how will all this garbage help the commander if he does not know where the enemy is? They can see magic glasses as far as 3 km and can determine the coordinates of targets. And who should look at these glasses if they were found earlier? An UAV has been asked here for 10 years, but it's still gone? .. SAU shoots at 50 km, Tornado up to 180km, and who will give them the coordinates of the target? Magic glasses, radar with a range of 10 km, video means with a range of 5 km? It would be ridiculous, but people are dying in Syria and the DPR, and we cannot provide modern informational support. Shame, shame ...
        1. sdc_alex
          sdc_alex 18 October 2016 17: 22
          +5
          Quote: okko077
          Shame, shame ...

          Kill, up the wall with shame, whiner! fool
      2. Uncle Murzik
        Uncle Murzik 18 October 2016 17: 30
        0
        okko077 but besides verbal diarrhea, can you suggest something? belay laughing
        1. okko077
          okko077 18 October 2016 18: 07
          +1
          Making others think this is good ..... I can offer .... By the way, I follow the topic and see the first shifts in this regard. Belatedly, but there are shifts .... So far there is no concept of how to create information systems and how to use them in a modern war .. And this is the level of general knowledge and higher .... But the elements of these systems, and with high efficiency of application, you can create fast ..... There are developments .....
          1. ghby
            ghby 19 October 2016 09: 49
            0
            Quote: okko077
            By the way, I follow the topic
            and like surveillance, found a lot of tracks?
          2. SeregaBoss
            SeregaBoss 24 October 2016 14: 43
            0
            Valera, who told you the target and the enemy is not visible? Did they call from gsh?
            The drones are hanging, there are pictures. There is intelligence and infa. Apparently a colleague of youtube has seen enough and become disillusioned, do you have enough drive? Blah blah, all in no way and no, a bunch of idiots, etc., so I would have razed, with tornado and acacia I would have equalized the mustache to hell!
  8. Rock_n_roll
    Rock_n_roll 18 October 2016 14: 47
    +2
    Today is a day rich in idiotic materials. First, they published some nonsense about the engine, now about the "5-year" battle for Aleppo ...
    No need to read Gay-Muridov at night and life will get better ...
  9. Rom14
    Rom14 18 October 2016 17: 25
    0
    Quote: okko077
    There will be the same result, only with corpses. To successfully fight, you need to know where the enemy is in advance, and not after our losses, we do not know how, have not yet learned. Our geniuses of military thought do not know what is needed for this, and how to do it. Therefore, it is impossible to introduce a ground contingent .... Now is it clear?

    The military commander in Aleppo has a flying camera, and he calmly watches the Basmachi in real time, even photographed the flight of the jet, they probably all saw it. I would give it to the reconnaissance aerospace forces, if you are not afraid that they will break ...
    1. sdc_alex
      sdc_alex 18 October 2016 17: 42
      +1
      Rum, don’t bother, comrade Eye of science fiction films have seen enough, that's raving about the ubiquitous information networks. Skynet, matrix, etc. laughing He would have thrust a machine into his hands and sent him to the desert .... to look at a real war.
      1. okko077
        okko077 18 October 2016 18: 29
        0
        I was there .... Just for you. Watch the 2015 film "The All-Seeing Eye" In addition to art and morality, I advise you to pay attention to the real technical aspect ....
  10. Disorder
    Disorder 18 October 2016 18: 54
    0
    The battle for Aleppo is not six months, but 5 years. It was so many years ago that militants first came to this Syrian region. And since then no forces can restore order and stability.

    I did not even read further. In fact, one could not even read this phrase. Aleppo liberates Syrian government forces, and the Russian air forces provide air support. In addition, the Russian VKS were introduced at the request of the Syrian government a year ago, and not five years.
  11. antivirus
    antivirus 18 October 2016 19: 12
    0
    East is a delicate matter and a long game
    (a. for the horizon (one term?) of the future 45 (?) president and
    b. good or bad job placement for refugees in Europe).
    + payback period of investments in oil and gas production in the Persian Gulf (and in general in Bol Middle East)
  12. iouris
    iouris 18 October 2016 19: 29
    0
    Such a state as the Russian Federation should not fight. Shame, and then condemned.
    I suspect that it will be impossible to fly through Iraq to Syria the other day. The window will close. Sailed.
  13. alexej123
    alexej123 18 October 2016 19: 46
    +1
    Fuck, what potential VO readers have, just the reserve of the General Staff of the Russian Federation, everyone knows, "Shoiguprosral", "Putinslil". It feels like they are sitting on sofas and on computers winning battles in Syria. Airships, set centric command. And special pearls in the comments for generals who cannot fight. So ask the soldiers who went through the second Chechen war about Shamanov, Gerasimov. Analytegi mln.
    1. okko077
      okko077 18 October 2016 20: 35
      +1
      Gerasimov adopted the ESU TZ "Constellation" system. And where is it, how is it used? ... Gerasimov is the head of the General Staff, he is responsible for the development and implementation of methods of waging a modern war .... Do you think he can handle it? Or ask the soldiers, maybe in the senior group of the kindergarten?
  14. Oleg Vyacheslavovich
    Oleg Vyacheslavovich 18 October 2016 20: 22
    0
    We are all humans. We feed ourselves and our families. The author is no exception. Therefore, I understand him. Money is necessary, but there is no way to write sensible. Can not write. God forbid, author, find feasible topics! Which the author will be able to reveal to the joy of readers.
  15. guzik007
    guzik007 18 October 2016 21: 53
    0
    And what is the obstacle, as in Grozny at the time, because the end justifies the means. Ali is the "public opinion" still pressing?
    A dog that only barks but is afraid to bite meat only causes contempt. How does a big politician differ from a bandit in the gateway? The final goal. What is the difference between a single killer and a state? On a scale. Who considered how many people were killed at the White House in the early 90's? who was jailed for this? The final result is important and nothing more. Here, mainly military people, former and not only. So let’s without lisp and girlish fainting.
    This anthill cannot be freed without total stirring up and, as a result, civilian casualties. And the more you shrink and play, the more heads will be cut off by nonhumans, yelling at the same time about "barbaric bombing of the Aerospace Forces."
    There is an iron rule in surgery - where the pus is there. And there is also the PHC rule. The primary surgical treatment of wounds. When it is necessary to excise non-viable tissue with minimal removal of the adjacent healthy one. So if we want to achieve a decisive fracture, we must not be afraid of howling from the west hard and decisively clean up. For there is such a profession, to clean the Motherland, probably many still remember. Forests are cut, chips fly, no matter how sorry. For not sparing our own people (in recent history), why would we pity others?
  16. Titsen
    Titsen 19 October 2016 01: 05
    0
    The article is very strange - the author’s position is not entirely clear: are you on which side of the conflict?

    You can answer in PM.
  17. Phosgene
    Phosgene 19 October 2016 01: 18
    0
    Russia can take Aleppo today, but for this the Kremlin lacks independence and political will. There are too many US sixes in the Kremlin who continue to grovel in front of Washington. It is enough to start using ALL types of ammunition available in the arsenal of the Russian army and Islamic terrorists will either flee from Syria or take a break! ODAB-1500 will turn any fortifications inside out.
  18. kig
    kig 19 October 2016 02: 18
    0
    Question: why should Russia liberate a city in Syria?
  19. complete zero
    complete zero 19 October 2016 05: 01
    0
    Quote: Wend
    Why Russia has no chance to free Syrian Aleppo

    In fact, it is not Russia that liberates Aleppo, but the Syrian army, and the Russian air forces help in this.
    Therefore, the desperate attempts of the Russian Federation to stabilize the situation
    Well, right from the last effort we are trying laughing The author is engaged in the substitution of concepts and verbal juggling.
    Based on the fact that a large-scale operation is planned in Iraqi Mosul
    On the face right there is a worship of Western forces.

    there is no admiration in the article, but there is ... (between the lines) a recognition of the need to introduce ground troops ... the VKS alone cannot win a war (in all history there are no such examples) .. and the Assad army ... is incapable of this with its forces .. so the devil knows how it all ends
  20. koshmarik
    koshmarik 19 October 2016 12: 08
    +2
    The hypochondriacal nagging of some of the participants in the discussion is not a new thing. Neither they are the first nor they are the last. In Aleppo, the guys are sensibly and consistently doing their job, and I think that very soon only feathers will fly from the Syrian armed opposition.
    1. SeregaBoss
      SeregaBoss 24 October 2016 14: 51
      0
      I agree, show and prove these whiners a video, knock on the keyboard not to crawl into reconnaissance battle.