Transfer of a new US Navy aircraft carrier postponed again

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Gerald Ford aircraft carrier will not be handed over to the American this year the fleet due to turbine malfunctions, reports MIC with reference to the representative of the Navy Thuraiya Kent.





Initially, Gerald R. Ford (CVN-78) was planned to be transferred to the fleet at 2014 g, then the deadline was postponed to September 2016, and later to November. And yesterday it became known that the aircraft carrier will still be at the shipyard of Huntington Ingalls Industries (Newport News, Virginia) for some time.

“The aircraft carrier has problems with two out of four power generating turbines. During the tests carried out in June and July of this year, voltage regulators were out of order, and today this problem has not yet been resolved " - Kent said.

Previously, delays in the transfer of the ship were associated with "some onboard systems that failed more often than allowed by the regulations."

The newspaper reminds that “Gerald Ford” is the most expensive aircraft carrier in the world. Its construction cost the US budget $ 13 billion. The ship was laid in 2009 g, launched in 2013. The aircraft carrier's displacement is about 100 thousand tons, it can accommodate up to 90 aircraft and helicopters on board.
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  1. +5
    11 October 2016 13: 27
    Again, the Russian hackers, led by Putin, are to blame, there is no one else.
    1. +25
      11 October 2016 13: 31
      Quote: square
      Again, the Russian hackers, led by Putin, are to blame, there is no one else.

      The toy is expensive. We can not afford it - and here Obama, Merkel, Hollande and couch generals on VO are to blame.
      We wish him a foot under the keel. Let it lie on the ground forever.
      1. +6
        11 October 2016 13: 56
        Transfer of a new US Navy aircraft carrier postponed again

        Well, at least they do not rush to pass it as soon as possible by the "anniversary" of something, but clearly and consistently bring the technique
      2. +5
        11 October 2016 14: 10
        this is better for a large snag under the keel) that the Pindo standers slow down, it is necessary to tie up with aircraft carriers (all the more so expensive) they will soon outlive their age in a landfill, just as when aircraft carriers and submarines appeared, the battleship went to the landfill as a ship
        1. +6
          11 October 2016 16: 50
          Quote: Warrior with machine gun
          they will outlive their age in a landfill, just as when aircraft carriers and submarines appeared, a battleship went to a landfill as a ship

          A kindergartner can write such sloppies. You dear apparently made a mistake with the site. Here it is customary to possess at least basic knowledge about performance characteristics and the use of weapons before writing anything. Engage in self-education, google to help you, so as not to make people laugh on a thematic site.
          1. +7
            11 October 2016 17: 35
            something no one else laughs. leave the self-education for yourself with a google, the source is so-so (if only as a guide to TTX), and judging by your criteria about a stranger (just leaving a muddy phrase about TTX and application) is at least just not correct that it’s nothing well-reasoned, except for its own powerful education. AH is not such a small and unkillable target, and the character of a solid fuel engine can play a role, even the weather is still. Modern practice just has not yet demonstrated (and it would not have been good to show) what class of ships will actually turn out to be more promising, as well as Depends on the doctrine of fleet use. TTX-ki usually draws everything from directories, and then practice draws a completely different, real picture. Time will tell.
            1. 0
              12 October 2016 17: 09
              Quote: Warrior with a machine gun
              something no one else laughs. leave the self-education for yourself with a google, the source is so-so (if only as a guide to TTX), and judging by your criteria about a stranger (just leaving a muddy phrase about TTX and application) is at least just not correct that it’s nothing well-reasoned, except for its own powerful education. AH is not such a small and unkillable target, and the character of a solid fuel engine can play a role, even the weather is still. Modern practice just has not yet demonstrated (and it would not have been good to show) what class of ships will actually turn out to be more promising, as well as Depends on the doctrine of fleet use. TTX-ki usually draws everything from directories, and then practice draws a completely different, real picture. Time will tell.


              Time shows that in none of our fleets (SF. Pacific Fleet) there are no last 20 years, and in the next 10-15 years there is no real force capable of destroying one AUG guaranteed ...
              It would be regrettable ...
    2. +7
      11 October 2016 13: 47

      Well, very similar
    3. +6
      11 October 2016 16: 29
      The ship was laid down in 2009, launched in 2013. The displacement of an aircraft carrier is about 100 thousand tons; up to 90 aircraft and helicopters can be placed on its board.

      Damn, we would have such a pace of construction-4 years and a hull on the water, and what a hull!
      And then we have all RTOs and the Frigates are sculpting .. well, let’s assume we are training for now.
      And as for the Amerov aircraft carrier, the article says-the largest in the world, naturally the refinement will go on for some time, they will finish everything. Amerikos aircraft carriers are able to build. We would also have a couple of such oh as it did!
      1. +4
        11 October 2016 17: 20
        Throwing caps and hobbling - this is not to twist the nuts or wave the Kyle ... you don’t need a big mind!
        They have problems with power generating turbines (which they will solve sooner or later), but we still don’t have ours and gas ... sad, however!
        And as for the aircraft carriers, you shouldn’t ... adherents from the "sect of MRK with calibers" schhaaa will tear you to shreds!
        1. +1
          11 October 2016 17: 47
          Quote: kepmor
          And as for the aircraft carriers, you shouldn’t ... adherents from the "sect of MRK with calibers" schhaaa will tear you to shreds!

          Well, you and I understand that RTOs with calibers are still a coastal guard fleet, in spite of the "sea" range of application of the KR 300 km (for sea targets). That, in general, is not enough for use against AUG. RTOs will not be allowed at such a distance, and with target designation, there are no drlo aircraft. And for those units for all fleets that there is only a ground based option. In real life, at the right time, they simply will not be on TV. Especially if this TVD is remote from our ground airfields. Something like this.
      2. +1
        11 October 2016 19: 25
        Quote: GSH-18
        4 years and body on the water

        Yes, riveting the case is not a problem. The main saturation, and with it there are enough difficulties.
        1. +2
          11 October 2016 23: 30
          Quote: Dart2027
          Yes, riveting the case is not a problem.

          Cases of the dimension of the nuclear-powered aircraft carrier? wassat
          Please, dear. Ours on the case for the "Leader" can not decide how, and not that it "riveted".
          1. 0
            12 October 2016 20: 33
            Quote: GSH-18
            Cases of the dimension of the nuclear carrier

            The case is just a box. Yes, the dimensions are large, but it is feasible. The question is how to start it.
    4. 0
      12 October 2016 14: 59
      Quote: square
      Again, the Russian hackers, led by Putin, are to blame, there is no one else.

      Of course to blame !!! Highly qualified Russian specialists do not go to Amers ... here the gag happened. Fresh heads))) There is such a thing in Japan. Let them ask them.
  2. +5
    11 October 2016 13: 27
    Don’t mock too much, they’ve even been postponed, but it’s not even expected here.
    1. +24
      11 October 2016 13: 33
      And, you ask the General Staff of the Moscow Defense Ministry - do we need new aircraft carriers today? What do you constantly cry. If it were so necessary, then it has long been laid on the slipways. Honestly, individual carriers have already gotten them. One sometimes wants to answer - if you are so unbearable, then order, who's stopping you ?.
      1. +11
        11 October 2016 13: 37
        Quote: rotmistr60
        And, you ask the General Staff of the Moscow Defense Ministry - do we need new aircraft carriers today?

        And the General Staff of the Navy will answer you - they have been needed since the 30s. smile And they became especially needed from the 70s, when even ensuring the security of the positional areas of their own SSBNs without ABs became an unrealistic task.
        1. +5
          11 October 2016 13: 58
          Why do we need such a task, what to solve?
          The doctrine is defensive, we are not going to conquer anyone.
          Cover, it is possible to perform other means.
          To deliver which is what.
          1. +6
            11 October 2016 14: 38
            Quote: VladimS
            Why do we need such a task, what to solve?
            The doctrine is defensive, we are not going to conquer anyone.
            Cover, it is possible to perform other means.
            To deliver which is what.


            Reinforced concrete otmaza! good So tell everyone!

            Quote: VladimS

            Cover, it is possible to perform other means.
            To deliver which is what.


            Did you remember "Kuzyu"? Lord, if only I crawled to the Mediterranean without any breakdowns !!! And how will they return it? - that's the question!
          2. +2
            11 October 2016 15: 11
            "Cover, it is possible to carry out by other means .." Oh whether! This opportunity is still extremely limited. Coastal defense, partly, in the basing areas. Landing operations? On what? On several ships of forty years ago, Polish construction? We will generally keep silent about the oceanic fleet. Modern submarines have just begun to be part of the fleet, dozens of them are needed .Yes, we are not going to conquer anyone, but we also need to defend ourselves with something.
          3. +1
            11 October 2016 15: 55
            Quote: VladimS
            Why do we need such a task, what to solve?

            Air cover for surface anti-submarine forces providing ASBN positional areas of SSBNs. Coastal aviation is not suitable for this: you need to build "bushes" of airfields with a capacity of 3-5 regiments (moreover, in difficult terrain). And even so, the coastal workers have too long a reaction time (due to the arrival time) and a short time of duty, which requires the use of forces outnumbering the enemy for cover from the shore. Just for example: at one time in Operation Verp, a squadron of long-range fighters was able to hold only 1 flight over the ships.
            To have fighters over our PLUG at the right time and in sufficient quantity, we need to have a mobile airfield of fighters and AWACS with a capacity of at least "Nimitz" 50 miles abroad to deploy our PLUGs.

            To fight off the raid of the same "supernets", relying solely on the air defense system - it means to be a very great optimist. For the radio horizon and the love of USN aircraft carriers for MV and PMV (a standard tactical technique for attacking the Soviet KUG of the late 80s) reduce the maximum range of the DD air defense system by 3-5 times.
          4. 0
            11 October 2016 19: 07
            Quote: VladimS
            The doctrine is defensive, we are not going to conquer anyone.

            probably from the big "defensive" doctrine, the admiral-generals sleep and see where else to stick a base besides Syria ...
      2. +1
        11 October 2016 13: 39
        Quote: rotmistr60
        And, you take an interest in the General Staff of the Moscow Defense Ministry - do we need new aircraft carriers today? ... if you are so unbearable, then order, who's stopping you ?.

        For example, I am constrained by three problems - it’s far to go to the Minsk Sea, I don’t have enough money and planes make a lot of noise when they take off.
      3. +7
        11 October 2016 13: 43
        But do we need to say destroyers? Something I don’t see on our slipways of a mortar destroyer. And do not say that cry is a fact, we are lagging behind and much. Yes, this is not about aircraft carriers, large ships of the ocean zone need about thirty, no less.
      4. +3
        11 October 2016 13: 47
        Quote: rotmistr60
        do we need new aircraft carriers today?

        Why are you so heated? Could it be because, due to the lack of such, we are pulling Kuznetsov there, who is barely bent. I understand that it’s not patriotic, but as they say, by and by.
        And about the fact that we are able to build an aircraft carrier today, better not tell anyone.
      5. +4
        11 October 2016 16: 35
        Quote: rotmistr60
        If it were so necessary, then it has long been laid on the slipways.

        Dear, do not hesitate, we need atomic-carrier aircraft yesterday. But they aren’t not because they don’t need it, but because there are no production capacities for such ships, there is not enough experience in the whole industry, and there is no money. These are the main reasons for the absence of aircraft carriers in our Navy. And so that citizens do not feel very sad, silly tales are launched about the lack of utility of these powerful units of any fleet. People while hawala.
        1. +2
          11 October 2016 19: 09
          Carriers- must cover other ships, there must be ships for repair and maintenance. Defense Ministry correctly does that while building small ships, they are dancing from the stove. So do not worry, everything will be both aircraft carriers and destroyers and cruisers.
          1. 0
            11 October 2016 19: 38
            Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich
            So do not worry, everything will be both aircraft carriers and destroyers and cruisers.

            You are right while experience is being developed and production capacities are being optimized.
            I do not worry. It's just that some of the new recruits on our site shine with their "knowledge" of building a new Russian Navy. Which cannot but cause a smile.
      6. 0
        12 October 2016 14: 56
        Aircraft carrier is an airfield. Correctly ? Airfield changing its location - floating. Dealt a blow and changed his location. With its excellent air defense and other military security. That is, this is a super airfield. Why do not we need?
      7. 0
        12 October 2016 17: 17
        Quote: rotmistr60
        And, you ask the General Staff of the Moscow Defense Ministry - do we need new aircraft carriers today? What do you constantly cry. If it were so necessary, then it has long been laid on the slipways. Honestly, individual carriers have already gotten them. One sometimes wants to answer - if you are so unbearable, then order, who's stopping you ?.



        Read the news of 5-10 summer ago ... Many, both sailors and shipbuilders, reported that in 2020 we will have a nuclear aircraft carrier ...
        Why did they say that?
    2. +3
      11 October 2016 13: 39
      but why?
    3. +1
      11 October 2016 16: 25
      Do you want Russian pensioners to go to Obama to ask for money, and students in grade 3 to finish? If so, then build.
      1. +1
        11 October 2016 17: 26
        Quote: Force
        Do you want Russian pensioners to go to Obama to ask for money, and students in grade 3 to finish? If so, then build.

        This is all very likely to happen if aircraft carriers do not appear in our Navy.
      2. +2
        11 October 2016 18: 49
        You know that Force..Do not want to feed your army, you will feed someone else’s .. Truth, this phrase is already squeezed, bringing to the attention of the followers of Siluanov and others like them ..
      3. +2
        11 October 2016 19: 27
        Quote: Force
        Do you want Russian pensioners

        They shouted about pensioners when they cut the fleet of the USSR. Change the training manual.
    4. 0
      12 October 2016 15: 01
      Quote: katalonec2014
      Don’t mock too much, they’ve even been postponed, but it’s not even expected here.

      Where does this information come from ???? Right rushing liberalism! He said, but did not give any arguments. Well, in other matters, as always.
      1. 0
        12 October 2016 17: 18
        Quote: meriem1
        Quote: katalonec2014
        Don’t mock too much, they’ve even been postponed, but it’s not even expected here.

        Where does this information come from ???? Right rushing liberalism! He said, but did not give any arguments. Well, in other matters, as always.


        He said it right. And this is not liberalism at all. Liberasty in your head.
  3. +7
    11 October 2016 13: 30
    Sorry not in the subject BUT
    “The Egyptian billionaire Nassef Onsi Sawiris, who allocated funds for the country's purchase of French helicopter carriers Mistral and actually owns them, decided to resell them to Russia for a symbolic price of $ 1. The issue of the sale of two ships of Russia was agreed with the President of Egypt, Abdul-Fattah Khalil Al-Sisi, ”the Egyptian television channel SIS TV reports.
    This is the number !!!)))
    1. +7
      11 October 2016 13: 57
      Bullshit!!!!!
      1. 0
        11 October 2016 14: 36
        Today there are two Mistral, and yesterday they were going to place a base in Egypt !!! wassat
      2. 0
        11 October 2016 14: 43
        But it would be great! Oh, how great!
        1. 0
          11 October 2016 14: 49
          Quote: uskrabut
          But it would be great! Oh, how great!



          Quote: rotmistr60
          And, you ask the General Staff of the Moscow Defense Ministry - do we need new aircraft carriers today? What do you constantly cry. If it were so necessary, then it has long been laid on the slipways. Honestly, individual carriers have already gotten them. One sometimes wants to answer - if you are so unbearable, then order, who's stopping you ?.


          somewhere between them - the truth!
      3. 0
        12 October 2016 15: 02
        Quote: Palch
        Bullshit!!!!!

        This is an old infa two years ago !!!!!!!! And it is quite consistent with what is written!
    2. 0
      11 October 2016 17: 35
      Quote: hirurg
      This is the number !!!))

      Rather, it is a duck and not a number.
      1. 0
        11 October 2016 19: 10
        More trust in the most truthful Arab platypus.
  4. +5
    11 October 2016 13: 31
    Highly! Well, a very cool aircraft carrier! The construction time is simply amazing (even more than impressive), we would have learned so! And very, just very happy that while he is not on alert (it will please him even more if he never takes over)! "Eh, we would live to see the wedding of marriage!" It's a pity that we can't do this yet ... even in the project (((
    1. +4
      11 October 2016 13: 41
      Quote: nik-karata
      The construction periods are simply shocking (even more than impressive), we would have to learn so!

      Uh-huh ... only "Gren" was torn off the wall and pushed onto the chassis, so now the Amur Shipyard is on the record - "ten years for a corvette." sad
      1. 0
        11 October 2016 17: 03
        All right, you say, there’s nothing to argue with. There was a film, I don’t remember the name, S. Seagal played a policeman whom the mafia nearly killed, he lay in a coma for several years, then woke up, and the mafia tried to kill him again, but he opened the door with a crutch and, by a miracle, fled. Well, after regained strength and all won. Is the analogy clear? The USSR also began to build TARK, albeit not minits, but built.
        1. +1
          11 October 2016 17: 57
          Quote: dr.star75
          The USSR also began to build TARK, albeit not minits, but built.

          I remember. And about project 1 - the leader "Leningrad" - I remember, which was completed right up to 1938.
          The problem is that in parallel with "Leningrad" and even before it, the following leaders and new EMs - "sevens" went to the fleet. And here everything is stuck on RTOs and corvettes. sad
          1. 0
            12 October 2016 15: 04
            Quote: Alexey RA
            Quote: dr.star75
            The USSR also began to build TARK, albeit not minits, but built.

            I remember. And about project 1 - the leader "Leningrad" - I remember, which was completed right up to 1938.
            The problem is that in parallel with "Leningrad" and even before it, the following leaders and new EMs - "sevens" went to the fleet. And here everything is stuck on RTOs and corvettes. sad

            That's right !!!
      2. 0
        11 October 2016 20: 14
        Quote: Alexey RA
        now Amur Shipyard is on the record - "ten years for a corvette". sad

        Uh-huh. And what will happen when the first "Leader" is put on the slipway. I really hope that at that time the corresponding work will be carried out and the terms of launching and putting on combat duty of new ships will be reduced to adequate Yes
    2. +5
      11 October 2016 13: 46
      Quote: nik-karata
      And very, just very happy that while he is not on alert duty (he will be even more pleased if he never steps on it)!

      Just don’t be glad that he’s not on duty. I will have much more reason for gloating with you if this gargara takes up duty. She for a couple of years walking in the seas will gobble up the amount more than its sawing cost.
      1. +1
        11 October 2016 14: 45
        Quote: tiredwithall
        Quote: nik-karata
        And very, just very happy that while he is not on alert duty (he will be even more pleased if he never steps on it)!

        Just don’t be glad that he’s not on duty. I will have much more reason for gloating with you if this gargara takes up duty. She for a couple of years walking in the seas will gobble up the amount more than its sawing cost.


        And standing at the wall she did not saw?
        1. 0
          11 October 2016 16: 24
          Eats, but not in that quantity.
      2. +2
        11 October 2016 20: 27
        Quote: tiredwithall
        She for a couple of years walking in the seas will gobble up the amount more than its sawing cost.

        Dear, you do not correctly understand the meaning of construction and, as you wrote, "walking" "gargars". Americanoses are by no means stupid amateurs in this area. For a couple of companies, this avik will "beat off" itself 30-40 times in terms of the financial and geopolitical benefits received by the states in the corresponding regions of the world.
        1. 0
          12 October 2016 15: 50
          Quote: GSH-18
          Dear, you do not correctly understand the meaning of construction and, as you wrote, "walking" "gargars"

          Well, I really do not find sense in building such gargars, just as I do not find human meaning in colonial wars and the lively-throated orientation of US policy. Although the goals of building aircraft carriers, the tasks of the intended use are quite understandable to me.
          Quote: GSH-18
          Americanosis is by no means stupid amateurs in this area.

          I express my full agreement with your opinion.
          Quote: GSH-18
          For a couple of companies, this avik will "beat off" itself 30-40 times in terms of the financial and geopolitical benefits received by the states in the corresponding regions of the world.

          And here is a very big question. TNCs will surely recapture their benefits. And the already overheated budget of the US country will contain both the aircraft carrier itself and all associated infrastructure. As far as I remember, today they are not able to take out a significant number of their large ships on alert due to lack of finances. So let them build, let them strain, let them drive them through the seas.
  5. +2
    11 October 2016 13: 34
    In Ukraine, turbines were ordered, not otherwise. wassat Well, not everyone in Mattress is super duper, there are problems.
  6. +6
    11 October 2016 13: 36
    Gerald Ford - the most expensive aircraft carrier in world practice


    and generally, stock up with shovels wassat
    1. +1
      11 October 2016 13: 49
      Quote: iza top
      Gerald Ford - the most expensive aircraft carrier in world practice


      and generally, stock up with shovels wassat



      It has already been repaired hi
      1. +2
        11 October 2016 14: 56
        Quote: Outlaw



        It has already been repaired hi


        This is not important for the site ... laughing the pros have gone, but this is important! wassat
      2. 0
        11 October 2016 20: 34
        Quote: Outlaw
        It has already been repaired by hi

        Not for the first and far from the last time. This is not a warship, but an excellent vessel for a permanent drink on the US military budget. Just look how much it was originally planned to build pieces and how many now. And then bring to mind how many years can not. And they cannot, the concept is not viable.
  7. +3
    11 October 2016 13: 39
    It will be funny if this aircraft carrier is sunk somewhere near Yemen in the near future.
    1. +3
      11 October 2016 19: 12
      Are you going to drown with the holy spirit?
    2. +3
      11 October 2016 20: 42
      Quote: BerBer
      It will be funny if this aircraft carrier is sunk somewhere near Yemen in the near future.

      Than? Fist, swear word, or as usual, hats?
      Dear, it's time to grow up.
  8. +5
    11 October 2016 13: 40
    Will finish this miracle of shipbuilding. The aircraft carrier is perhaps the most complex machine in the world and the refinement of such a colossus will, by definition, be a long one. But the mattresses have a new aircraft carrier already on the water, and with us the Leader is only on paper. So it’s stupid to jerk. Three frigates are waiting for sale abroad, although we need them so much, but without the domestic GSU, the construction of this series of frigates stopped. May God grant that things move for the better with the Ashes and that there is little hope for today.
    1. +1
      11 October 2016 20: 49
      Quote: NEXUS
      But the mattresses have a new aircraft carrier already on the water, and with us the Leader is only on paper. So it’s stupid to jerk.

      In addition, the "Leader" is a nuclear-powered destroyer of the oceanic zone; in terms of its combat power, it is not even worth comparing it with an Aircraft Carrier. So here we are quite catching up with mattress makers, and so far without much success. request
  9. +4
    11 October 2016 13: 53
    Russian anti-ship missiles of the X31 and Onyx series do not care, at least $ 13, even $ 1 billion - they don't ask the price!
    1. +1
      11 October 2016 21: 01
      Quote: Vladimir61
      Russian anti-ship missiles of the X31 and Onyx series do not care, at least $ 13, even $ 1 billion - they don't ask the price!

      I would gladly agree with you if that were true. More than once, the site has given a standard method of using AUG against the Soviet KGB attack on carrier-based aircraft from under the radio horizon for target designation from a deck aircraft drill in rotational mode. Since then, nothing has changed for us for the better in the ocean theater. The missiles you brought are certainly certainly good, but their effective use presupposes the presence of target designation systems and tactical aviation reconnaissance of the fleet (for example, deck-based AWACS aircraft) for their range of application. While this is not the case, you can shoot only according to the ship’s radar, that is, to the radio horizon-20, 25km from the height of the deckhouse. So it goes request
    2. +1
      12 October 2016 20: 14
      Quote: Vladimir61
      Russian anti-ship missiles of the X31 and Onyx series do not care, at least $ 13, even $ 1 billion - they don't ask the price!


      Such nonsense has repeatedly been written here by those who are simply unable to look beyond their nose and understand that the world is more complicated than it seems to you.
      Whether you want it or not, but to destroy an AUG worth 25-30 billion dollars, you need to spend the same 25-30 billion dollars.
      If you think seriously with your head, then you will have a picture ....
  10. +1
    11 October 2016 13: 53
    The flagship of the sixth fleet of the United States Navy, Mount Whitney, entered the Black Sea. It is reported by Interfax with reference to Turkish information portals.
    1. +7
      11 October 2016 14: 17
      to go in one, go out completely different, it will behave itself will go away alive))
    2. +1
      11 October 2016 16: 28
      Quote: Oleneboy_
      The flagship of the sixth fleet of the United States Navy, Mount Whitney, entered the Black Sea.

      How old is he ... I remember this "Mount Whitney" from the articles on the US amphibious forces in the Soviet "ZVO". smile

      And to serve him for a long time - last year, after repair, he extended the service life to 2039.
    3. 0
      11 October 2016 23: 46
      Quote: Oleneboy_
      The flagship of the sixth fleet of the US Navy Mount Mount Whitney entered the Black Sea

      This vessel doesn’t represent much militarily (year of production 1971), because it is the so-called TEAM ship. Spy a little maybe, yes, well that's all.
  11. +1
    11 October 2016 14: 02
    Quote: dmi.pris
    But do we need to say destroyers? Something I don’t see on our slipways of a mortar destroyer. And do not say that cry is a fact, we are lagging behind and much. Yes, this is not about aircraft carriers, large ships of the ocean zone need about thirty, no less.

    Yes, no .., 100 must. Yeah. Question: to whom and for what?
    Noble means to cut?
    I strongly disagree with the construction of monsters, to fight ...
    1. +1
      11 October 2016 14: 15
      Quote: VladimS

      Yes, no .., 100 must. Yeah. Question: to whom and for what?

      You look around then, take a closer look at the fleets of Turkey, Japan, China ... it's a pity there is no donavi 49 on the branch, he would instantly compare the capabilities of TF and the same China, I’ll keep silent about America.
  12. 0
    11 October 2016 14: 04
    The apogee is growing. Scary. Seriously. But we will break through. We do not know how otherwise. We are Russian !!!
  13. +3
    11 October 2016 14: 23
    Finish what F-35 finish and the aircraft carrier finish, give time and money, more preferably, both feel
  14. +3
    11 October 2016 14: 29

    The future of "Gerald Ford" after the first trip to the Gulf of Aden ..
    1. +2
      11 October 2016 14: 44
      The photo is of course from the Gulf of Mexico .. To the joy of junk flooded divers .. Well, you, Eugene dream is not harmful .. About this picture all the pilots dreamed of Tu22 naval aviation ..
      1. +1
        11 October 2016 15: 15
        Quote: dmi.pris
        .About such a picture dreamed all the pilots of the Tu22 naval aviation.

        I’ll be silent about the subfloor feel
      2. 0
        11 October 2016 16: 33
        "The Price of Fear", 2002
  15. +1
    11 October 2016 14: 38
    "Gerald Ford is the most expensive aircraft carrier in world practice. Its construction cost the US budget $ 13 billion. The ship was laid down in 2009 and launched in 2013. The aircraft carrier's displacement is about 100 thousand tons, on board can accommodate up to 90 aircraft and helicopters. "

    The big ship has a big torpedo!
    A very expensive toy for the US Navy, longer defects would be eliminated. There you look, or the price will increase two times or it will be time to write off.
    I imagine it would be a shame if this whopper leaves some cheap land mine.
  16. 0
    11 October 2016 15: 10
    The operating costs of AB Gerald Ford are $ 13,9 billion (not $ 13).

    Given the elimination of flaws, the final cost is estimated at least at 15 billion dollars.
  17. +2
    11 October 2016 15: 31
    Quote: rotmistr60
    And, you ask the General Staff of the Moscow Defense Ministry - do we need new aircraft carriers today? What do you constantly cry. If it were so necessary, then it has long been laid on the slipways. Honestly, individual carriers have already gotten them. One sometimes wants to answer - if you are so unbearable, then order, who's stopping you ?.

    Of course, I understand your indignation, but can I paraphrase his comment a bit .. "They are completing the construction of huge and expensive aircraft carriers ... and we are happy with the tugs and modernized MRK, but where is at least one newest ship of the first rank" ... how do you? I didn’t touch your favorite aircraft carriers, I confess I don’t like them either, but we need any ships, including mistrals!
    1. +1
      11 October 2016 15: 58
      Yes, we are normal, along the way. what Boats are being built, and at the expense of tugboats, it’s like leaning against a pier without a tugboat, they need, if a normal port, so that the wires are not torn. Yes, it doesn’t happen all at once, such as step by step everything and one step at a time, only ticking, very quickly
  18. 0
    11 October 2016 15: 44
    Quote: tiredwithall
    Quote: nik-karata
    And very, just very happy that while he is not on alert duty (he will be even more pleased if he never steps on it)!

    Just don’t be glad that he’s not on duty. I will have much more reason for gloating with you if this gargara takes up duty. She for a couple of years walking in the seas will gobble up the amount more than its sawing cost.

    Damn you defeated, but they wanted to sneeze at all amounts, they print these amounts, and print as much as they want! State debt, but they wanted to sneeze on public debt, the Americans without the use of nuclear weapons on the planet hegemon, and we must face it, we won’t be able to to defeat by conventional means, neither we nor China .. they will bend anyone on our ball! Of course we will arrange partisanism for them and we will kill them with rotten people, but we don’t have a chance to win, from the word completely! Remember the Americans are a rotten nation deceivers and moral freaks, this is an unprincipled people!
    1. +2
      11 October 2016 16: 30
      Quote: igorka357
      yes they wanted to sneeze for all the amounts, they print these amounts, and print as much as they want

      In order to print new money (draw zeros in the computer's memory), it is necessary that someone take this money, while giving their gold, oil or any useful product (sold for nothing). But such fools on earth have already ended and there were problems with the placement of green pictures.
      Russia, with the current parliament, will quickly pass laws to deoffshorization of the economy, which will displace dollar flows from domestic production. National currency reserves will be moved from enemy currencies to partner currencies. China and Iran act similarly ...
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      1. +2
        11 October 2016 16: 46
        Quote: Force
        And it will be like in the Second World War. Army ROA and Army Regiment.

        Well, what do you consider yourself to be? To the ROA, these are the criminals who fought in the Wehrmacht against the USSR.
        The regime’s army, yeah, it’s for you, RRKA.CA-armies are criminal, then what do you have to do with the concept of the Great Patriotic War?
        She, to you, Vlasovites, Victory in that war, if it applies, then only as a Sentence of the Tribunal to Vlasov and his accomplices, a noose.
        1. 0
          11 October 2016 16: 54
          I don’t write which army I belong to. I wrote the answer, as I see the war with the West
          1. +2
            11 October 2016 17: 25
            Could you recall something about an ice hole?
            You already decide who you are with.
            1. 0
              11 October 2016 17: 45
              The same Strelkov, does not remind you of any historical character?
    3. 0
      11 October 2016 16: 48
      In the war there was a ROA. Now it will be called something else.
      1. +1
        11 October 2016 16: 51
        Quote: Force
        In the war there was a ROA.

        The criminal gang of traitors in the service of the Nazis, are you for Hitler ?.
        1. +2
          11 October 2016 17: 02
          Vlad, everything is simple with these, your bullet, our cartridge case, and even the temperature in the blood will never rise, more calmly, dragging the major, where our ish what
          1. +2
            11 October 2016 17: 23
            Yeah. Only surgery helps, with any malignant growth. am
            1. 0
              12 October 2016 00: 26
              Vlad Well, like, but if ...
        2. 0
          11 October 2016 17: 02
          Yes, I'm not for Tutankhamun. Read more carefully.
  19. 0
    11 October 2016 17: 57
    Beautiful Ship ...
    1. +1
      11 October 2016 21: 37
      Quote: Holoy
      Beautiful Ship ...

      Aha recourse , Duc ugly initially do not swim, do not fly, and do not want to ride. Algebra harmony, her mother's children, incidentally and a couple of "granites" with special warheads, it's also beautiful, for an amateur what true, well, il 533, the fifth hangs, in the sense, in the wake of the mother
      1. 0
        11 October 2016 22: 11
        Floating ... woof ... oh ... The ship is sailing ...
        1. 0
          11 October 2016 22: 42
          Boats, those that are submarines. autonomous SWIMMING. Captain on the bridge of distant SWIMMING. It’s marimans who walk on decks, and to float the drift, well, if the deck is on the abyssal, then, as one Captri said, rescue in Kara. so that your carcasses are recognized.
          Though for that, thanks ,. earlier the Pomors didn’t have that either. The fire or the hole, who is in the compartment, they fight, they are jammed into neighboring cremalleiers. Yes, even dare to help them. will not be allowed. , and the boat, at the end home,., since then, if the division commander,
          1. 0
            12 October 2016 02: 09
            ... go explain it to your wife ... Not in swimming, but on a hike ... military campaign ... Go swim with the shit ... m

            there are no captains of long-distance sailing on a warship ... On a warship-Commander!
  20. 0
    11 October 2016 18: 32
    Gerald Ford is the most expensive aircraft carrier in world practice. I would change this quote a little- THE MOST DEAR TARGET FOR OUR GRANITES!
    1. 0
      11 October 2016 19: 10
      He is actually guarded by an escort from a detachment of 10-15 heavily armed ships that create a safe zone within a radius of 300 kilometers.
      1. 0
        11 October 2016 23: 51
        Eva, as they thought, the infantry the whole piano with the support of the main shock, from Uralvagonzavod
        BISTRO IN NEW, A tin to sink selectively. and Kalash to Ireland for anabasis enthusiasts
        ps Chet I wrapped what
        No, better anti-personnel at night on a lace. nafig nafig
  21. 0
    11 October 2016 19: 13
    Apparently, the rush in preparation for the war is affecting - the quality is suffering, the deadlines are shifting. Are Ford supernovae and turbines still not run on anything, raw equipment put up just to be put into operation as soon as possible? Do any of the specialists know the ins and outs of these turbines, why are they so unreliable, what's the matter? hi
  22. exo
    +1
    11 October 2016 20: 34
    The Russians, of course, have nothing to do with it. America, with their ship composition, can afford a leisurely launch of the ship. It would be better for us to look at our Maces, and not to show our fingers at the Yankees. Yes, and the Gorshkov, too, are not yet in the ranks. I think it's better not to remember the timing.
  23. exo
    +1
    11 October 2016 20: 39
    Quote: Alexey RA
    "The Price of Fear", 2002

    Very realistic. Especially when, after the command: "We start bombing," they launch anti-ship missiles. Underestimating the enemy is always bad.
  24. +1
    11 October 2016 21: 11
    Quote: square
    Again, the Russian hackers, led by Putin, are to blame, there is no one else.

    the best minds that left us at xnumx helped do.
  25. 0
    11 October 2016 23: 27
    Swedes bend ...
  26. 0
    12 October 2016 11: 07
    Everything is clear the machinations of Russian hackers overeating with meldonium.

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