Kravchuk: "With nuclear weapons, Ukraine would look like a monkey with a grenade"

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Recently, the first president of Ukraine, Leonid Kravchuk, has been recording his portions of Maidan rage. The other day he's on the air NSN congratulated Russian President Vladimir Putin on his birthday, wishing (to quote) to “raise Russia to a very high altitude”.

From greetings from Kravchuk:
I congratulate Vladimir Vladimirovich on his birthday, with hope for the future. Vladimir Vladimirovich now has the opportunity, using his image and support in the country, to raise Russia to such a height that it deserves - to a very great height.




In the Ukrainian media said it was a fake, "disinformation", invented by "Russian propagandists." Like, did not say this Kravchuk. But the well-known blogger Anatoly Shary actually owns the words of Leonid Kravchuk (from 14: 20), presenting radio materials:



And today Kravchuk reflected on why he once spoke (and is now) for the nuclear-free status of Ukraine. The first Ukrainian president voiced his thoughts, which brought the Maidan public of Ukraine to a white-hot, in an interview with Dmitry Gordon. According to Kravchuk, Ukraine today would represent a “monkey with a grenade”.

Leonid Kravchuk:
We are with nuclear weaponswithout control systems, testing, reproduction would be like a monkey that holds a grenade in his hands. And then she got tired, and she let go - an explosion!


Kravchuk added that he still does not regret that he had once called for the complete rejection of Ukraine of nuclear weapons.
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    1. +24
      10 October 2016 17: 54
      We with nuclear weapons, without control systems, tests, reproduction would be like a monkey holding a grenade. And then she got tired, and she let go - an explosion!

      It’s good that now this territory looks like just a monkey, without a grenade. Although, they also have nuclear power plants ...
      1. +14
        10 October 2016 18: 03
        And even without nuclear weapons, Ukraine is like a monkey ... Taming, jumping, copying its black master ..
        Here Klitschko already eats in kindergarten ..)))) Prizhalo see! wassat
        1. +5
          10 October 2016 18: 54
          This is a school, not a kindergarten .. Now everything is serious, instead of compote the blood of Russian babies they can pour him .. Education pancake .. There is no word.
          1. +5
            11 October 2016 08: 23
            The structure of the "faces" in the photo shows that in spite of their fullness, they are not yet full.
      2. +9
        10 October 2016 18: 13
        We with nuclear weapons, without control systems, tests, reproduction would be like a monkey holding a grenade. And then she got tired, and she let go - an explosion!

        Damn, they have four more grenades and one that has already exploded, then they stopped the whole Union. request
        1. +1
          10 October 2016 18: 15
          Quote: vovanpain
          Damn, they have four more grenades and one that has already exploded, then they stopped the whole Union.

          Also thought about it, right away .... There's also a mess!
          1. +4
            10 October 2016 18: 33
            Kravchuk: "With nuclear weapons, Ukraine would look like a monkey with a grenade"

            But if Ukraine had nuclear weapons, there might not have been a coup d'etat. Europe would hardly want to have a nuclear country next to itself collapsing into chaos. This is fraught for the EU. Therefore, Europe would not go on about the United States. Your own skin is more expensive.
            1. +8
              10 October 2016 18: 54
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              But if Ukraine had nuclear weapons, then a coup would not have happened

              I don’t think so. It’s just that the A. Mer would have a good reason to immediately send troops there. Well, or here ... In short, everything would be sharper for us.
              1. +1
                10 October 2016 18: 59
                Quote: Monos
                I don’t think so. It’s just that the A. Mer would have a good reason to immediately send troops there.

                And you think that we would calmly look at it?
                "Well, or with us ... In short, everything would have been sharper for us."
                But the presence of nuclear weapons in Ukraine would force us to more closely monitor what is happening there. And do not let things go on their own - as we did.
              2. +3
                10 October 2016 19: 35
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                But the presence of nuclear weapons in Ukraine would force us to more closely monitor what is happening there. And do not let things go on their own - as we did.

                So, I agree that everything would be different. But, as in another way, we will not know.
            2. +1
              10 October 2016 19: 01
              And I think that in this case, for sure, our troops would have been in the Chop area for a long time .. What does Europe have to do with it? Here we would have to completely resolve the situation ..
            3. +14
              10 October 2016 19: 15
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              But if Ukraine had nuclear weapons, then a coup would not have happened
              One of the most powerful armies in the world, inherited by independent Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR, fell victim to corruption and theft
              Tens of billions of dollars from the "shadow" sale of army property settled in the pockets of politicians and generals.
              In the 1991 year, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukraine inherited the most powerful military unit in Europe. It included:
              - 4 military armies;
              - 1 tank army;
              - 1 army corps;
              - 3 air defense corps;
              - 43rd missile army;
              - heavy bomber strategic aviation, etc.
              The number of troops of this group was almost 1 million people.
              The armament of this formation consisted of:
              - tanks - about 9 thousand;
              - armored vehicles - 11 thousand;
              - artillery systems - 18 thousand;
              - airplanes and helicopters - about 3900;
              - intercontinental ballistic missiles with their strategic warheads - 176 missiles;
              - separately operational-tactical and tactical nuclear warheads - 2883 units.
              In addition, in strategic military bases and warehouses, as an untouchable reserve, designed to mobilize 10 (ten!) Million people (i.e. at least 5 (five!) Fronts) in the event of an enemy attack, weapons and military equipment were stored, food, ammunition and other military equipment - according to foreign experts - at 89 (eighty nine!) billion US dollars.
              1. +1
                11 October 2016 07: 36
                Well, so Kravchuk was the first president of a non-deserving Ukraine .. Repose how much was stolen! The first one began to steal. And the taper suddenly became wise, received his sight and utters the right words. Who was he before! 991? And here is who! ----- In 1989-1990, he was a candidate member of the Politburo. In 1990-1991, he was a member of the Politburo of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine.

                Since 1990 - second secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine.

                In March 1990, he was elected to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.

                Since 1990 he was a member of the Central Committee of the CPSU.

                In 1990-1991 - Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine.

                He left the CPSU after the events of August 19-21, 1991 ----- On December 8, 1991, he signed with the President of the RSFSR B.N. Yeltsin and the Chairman of the Supreme Council of the Republic of Belarus S.S. Shushkevich the Belovezhsky Agreement on the termination of the USSR .. last!
            4. 0
              10 October 2016 19: 16
              Quote: SRC P-15
              Kravchuk: "With nuclear weapons, Ukraine would look like a monkey with a grenade"

              But if Ukraine had nuclear weapons, there might not have been a coup d'etat. Europe would hardly want to have a nuclear country next to itself collapsing into chaos. This is fraught for the EU. Therefore, Europe would not go on about the United States. Your own skin is more expensive.

              Well, the collapse of the USSR was all the same, and they now want to crank this scheme in Russia one more time, so that finally ...! And Ukraine has nuclear power plants that will explode and do not seem a little (dirty bombs) And you can guess the "wind rose" where you need it ...
              But they can do it and blame it on Russia ... Scum!
          2. win
            +15
            10 October 2016 18: 45
            Two monkeys are sitting on a tree.
            One says:
            - When I get down from a tree, I will become the president of America.
            The second scratched her ass and said:
            - And I will become the president of Ukraine without even getting down from a tree.
        2. +3
          10 October 2016 18: 57
          And why on the map of Crimea in a strip .. It was necessary to ascribe Russia ... I understand that the map was taken from Ukrosayt, but still, our site is Russian and the map should be Russian.
          1. +7
            10 October 2016 19: 57
            Quote: dmi.pris
            And why on the map of Crimea in a strip .. It was necessary to ascribe Russia ... I understand that the map was taken from Ukrosayt, but still, our site is Russian and the map should be Russian.

            Dmitry took from here: miraes.ru/karta-aes-ukrainyi-spisok-vseh-ato
            mnyih-stantsiy-ukrainyi / hi
        3. +2
          11 October 2016 04: 02
          Damn, they have four more grenades and one that has already exploded, then they stopped the whole Union. request

          You are mistaken, unfortunately not four, and not grenades at all. The point here is that it is not necessary to consider the stations, but the power units. And, which is especially annoying, this is Zaporizhzhya NPP closest to us, and there are 6 units.
      3. +2
        10 October 2016 18: 31
        Who prevented this pretzel from bringing Ukraine to the proper economic level. Besides personal greed and stupidity, nothing.
      4. +4
        10 October 2016 18: 46
        At the same Gordon, look at this character
        1. 0
          11 October 2016 15: 40
          Sergey, I'm sorry. The actor is very good, but in the head mess. It's a pity.
      5. win
        +9
        10 October 2016 18: 48
        ... All humans are descended from monkeys.
        And Ukrainians descended from highly developed monkeys ...
        (history book of Ukraine for 4 classes)
        ...
        ... but evolution did not go further for highly developed monkeys ...
        Yushchenko’s example
      6. +2
        10 October 2016 21: 17
        The main weathervane was the first to orient.
        Soon the jamb will reach for him .. bully
    2. +3
      10 October 2016 17: 55
      And what changes without nuclear weapons? The same monkey, but only without a grenade. But if you chose a guide who from Ukraine created the ruins with the hands of the Ukrainians themselves, then who is to blame?
    3. +4
      10 October 2016 17: 56
      The rat is preparing its way to a retreat. But recently he spoke with bellicose speeches. Looks quite pressed ...
      1. +9
        10 October 2016 19: 01
        Quote: Kovlad
        But recently he spoke with bellicose speeches.

        Yes, he was always pi ........ (spoke a lot) !!!
        1. win
          +4
          10 October 2016 19: 10
          Complete Works of the Presidents of Ukraine:
          Volume 1 - Leonid Kravchuk "Ukraine".
          Volume 2 - Leonid Kuchma "Ukraine is not Russia."
          Volume 3 - Victor Yushchenko “Not Russia”.
          Volume 4 - Viktor Yanukovych “Russia”.
    4. +1
      10 October 2016 17: 59
      Yeah, you already dealt with the country like banderlogs, only there aren’t enough bombs! Khan would definitely come to Europe ... The warheads would also be sold to Poland - the Poles would now shine like candles ...
    5. +2
      10 October 2016 18: 03
      In general, of all "nuclear"I consider the NPT the only one that makes sense, and even then only in conditions where there are at least two equally strong nuclear powers with different ideologies.

      Otherwise, a dictate is obtained. Little dictate of the dollar; still lacking a similar nuclear. Amerasts will bomb anyone; The UN will be bombed - if they are confident in their impunity. Here the only guardian of the world is Russia, which has everything and does not need anything from anyone, by and large. The main thing is that all sodomites do not climb into it (including in pockets - in which there are not enough pennies left after darling Yeltsin).

      But uk-ram bomb is not needed; they already have more than ten bombs - so far in the form of nuclear power units, but not for long.
    6. +5
      10 October 2016 18: 06
      seperate am
      1. +4
        10 October 2016 18: 25
        seperate
        Quince fellow
        1. +1
          10 October 2016 19: 03
          It is no longer quoted. "A FRIEND OF PUTIN"
          1. +4
            10 October 2016 20: 16
            Quote: dmi.pris
            It is no longer quoted. "A FRIEND OF PUTIN"


            Friendship strong will not break,
            It will not get rid of the rains and blizzards.
            A friend in need won't quit, won't ask too much,
            That's what a true true friend means.
    7. +2
      10 October 2016 18: 14
      Kravchuk himself also comes from the Bondarlog tribe, headed by an eternally drunk "leader". What they did to the country is comparable to the use of weapons of mass destruction. What Kravchuk is remembered in Ukraine is "kravchuchkami" - hand carts of the period of plundering of the Ukrainian SSR. Nobody will remember anything good.
      1. win
        +11
        10 October 2016 18: 46
        - African monkeys invented a new way to collect bananas.
        They hire workers ... from Ukraine
    8. Alf
      +1
      10 October 2016 18: 27
      Without thinking, he blurted out, now they are lustering him. Surely they are already looking for a trash can by its size.
    9. +4
      10 October 2016 18: 37
      This is the only sensible thought of this man. Although everything that he did before, from the Belovezhskaya "agreements" to conniving at the actions of Ukrainian oligarchs in the 90s, deserves a tribunal. However, as it was rightly noted in the comments, the absence of Ukrainian nuclear weapons removes only half of the problem, since the presence of nuclear energy with its inept management and in the absence of normal atomic specialists is, as the experience of Chernobyl and Fukushima shows, a threat more terrible than a nuclear strike.
    10. win
      +8
      10 October 2016 18: 43
      - I watched "Planet of the Apes: The Revolution" yesterday.
      - Well, how do you like it?
      - Yes, a pathetic semblance of news from Ukraine.
    11. +1
      10 October 2016 18: 48
      If you really look, then Ukraine without a nuclear weapon is a headache for us ... and we should not forget that they have their own military-industrial complex, we had one school ... people are not stupid ...
      1. 0
        10 October 2016 18: 56
        The current headache for us is the increased, at times, drug trafficking and the import of weapons into the territory of Russia from Ukraine.
        1. 0
          10 October 2016 19: 00
          Can I talk about drugs in more detail?
          1. 0
            10 October 2016 19: 19
            Basically, synthetics are driven.
            1. 0
              10 October 2016 19: 22
              That's ... one more headache ...
          2. 0
            10 October 2016 22: 33
            Maybe fat?
    12. 0
      10 October 2016 18: 55
      Kravchuk: "With nuclear weapons, Ukraine would look like a monkey with a grenade"
      Ukrainians and with the usual weapons are not very different from the monkey. At least, all kinds of stupid inventions, they turn out with a bang. Half of the world above them "burns out"
    13. +1
      10 October 2016 18: 57
      Well, why are you all like this request
      Awareness of Reality Comes to Man Yes ! Already a plus on the general background wassat But it all began so cool - Adam Ukrainian, dug up the Black Sea ... winked And then a monkey with a grenade lol
      If a person is self-critical, then not everything is lost laughing
      feel
    14. +3
      10 October 2016 18: 57
      (Kravchuk: "With nuclear weapons, Ukraine would be like a monkey with a grenade")

      Also to me, I discovered "America", a smelly skunk.
      1. win
        +7
        10 October 2016 19: 09
        On live channel 5, the former president of Ukraine and the owner of a small
        Khatyn women in Switzerland, and now a giant of thought and father of Ukrainian
        Social Democracy L. M. Kravchuk expressed outrage that reform is not
        reach the ideals proclaimed by the Orange Revolution. To fight
        for these ideals he intends to rally the most solvent ranks
        opposition to the political movement "United Ukraine". Makarych in an amicable way
        warned: "If gasoline for my gelding rises in price again, I will withdraw
        his signature under the denunciation of the union treaty ".
    15. +1
      10 October 2016 19: 10
      So and without nuclear weapons Ukraine, like a monkey with a grenade! Moreover, stupid, envious and stupid.
    16. nnm
      0
      10 October 2016 19: 15
      At the time of the formal signing of this treaty, none of the former republics of the Union, except for the RSFSR, actually had not a single "head" ... the document was only a fait accompli. Thanks to GRU GSh!
    17. win
      +3
      10 October 2016 19: 17


      Degradation of Ukraine
      1. +1
        11 October 2016 18: 50
        An instructive video indeed.
        A man wants to see the Russian flag in a children's bow, it seems they threw mushrooms specifically ................... laughing laughing wink
    18. +3
      10 October 2016 19: 17
      Wisdom comes with age.
      1. nnm
        +3
        10 October 2016 19: 20
        ... and passes by Ukraine in spite of its "multimillion and one-year" history ...
    19. +2
      10 October 2016 19: 22
      With nuclear weapons, Ukraine would be a monkey with nuclear weapons, and now it’s just a monkey of easy virtue.
    20. +2
      10 October 2016 19: 27
      Strange argumentation: it is impossible to have nuclear weapons without a basis for its testing and reproduction. With us, the United Kingdom lives with nuclear weapons, France. The Germans are counting on nuclear weapons of the United States.
      And the conclusion suggests itself: of course, American nuclear weapons should be deployed in Ukraine. That is why this instructor of the Central Committee of the CPSU gives an interview. After all, trading the homeland can be done in different ways.
      1. nnm
        +1
        10 October 2016 19: 30
        By the way, Cuba is still insulted by us for the withdrawal of nuclear weapons ... and it is unlikely to be against returning it ...
        1. 0
          11 October 2016 01: 04
          BRDZK they need to help (or rather railway wagons friendly country).
    21. +1
      10 October 2016 19: 29
      The old man pulled on good-looking, it smelled of earth
    22. +2
      10 October 2016 19: 50
      you old monkey! Before meeting with the Almighty, conscience woke up, scum? Or did he decide to whitewash his conscience by shutting himself off from the event of a quarter century ago, with which he was a direct participant and entertainer?
      Burn in hell! scum!
    23. +1
      10 October 2016 20: 15
      Why such rhetoric? It seems to me that Ukraine, like Georgia, will never change. They are used to standing behind a strong man and feeding from his pockets. So it was before, when they joined us, and broke away from us as soon as we became weaker. Now we are becoming stronger, and those who are short-sighted are changing rhetoric. In general, they will throw themselves in their arms and give themselves to anyone who is stronger and will allow to make their pocket common.
    24. +3
      10 October 2016 20: 30
      I congratulate Vladimir Vladimirovich on his birthday, with hope for the future. Vladimir Vladimirovich now has the opportunity, using his image and support in the country, to raise Russia to such a height that it deserves - to a very great height.
      Purely human would look like a congratulation worthy ... but
      Lichen! He helped to destroy the united country, and now he is not averse to "licking" the strong, he senses that America does not shine. As Stanislavsky used to say: _ "I don't believe" !!
    25. +1
      10 October 2016 21: 01
      The outskirts and without nuclear weapons look like it ...
    26. +1
      10 October 2016 21: 08
      He is right at 100%! Any comments on this issue are unnecessary.
    27. +1
      10 October 2016 21: 12
      Monkeys would not touch! First you need to grow up to them!
    28. +2
      10 October 2016 21: 39
      No one in the world needs another official nuclear country. Kravchuk simply had no other choice.
    29. 0
      10 October 2016 21: 52
      Well, at least I thought of it when I was actively ruining the Union with my comrades! angry
    30. +1
      10 October 2016 21: 57
      Sorry for the flood. Shakes with anger with terrible force. But in VKontakte there is now an advertisement for a game with such a picture and the motto "Let's Free Europe" .. An attack was launched on all fronts.
      PS Today in Poltavchenko in St. Petersburg I signed a decree on the issue of bread in case of war. 300 gr Nothing, you can live. I went to the store, bought a couple of packages more - peas, vegetable oil, canned food .. Plus, it is stored on the mezzanine. Where to buy AK?

    31. 0
      11 October 2016 02: 02
      We with nuclear weapons, without control systems, tests, reproduction would be like a monkey holding a grenade. And then she got tired, and she let go - an explosion!]


      "All of humanity has long been chronically sick,
      And the whole story is doomed to hurt ...
      Amazing nearby, but forbidden! "
      V.S. Vysotsky.
    32. +1
      11 October 2016 03: 15
      When will the command Old Man get wet?
    33. 0
      11 October 2016 03: 43
      Sneaky and slanderous, just a pathetic and disgusting character.
    34. +1
      11 October 2016 04: 13
      SRTS P-15,
      And do not let things go by themselves - as we did

      Let me disagree with this statement. Taking into account the events in a couple of weeks - this is not a "drift", but a well-calculated combination, I am sure that the effect will come out where it was not expected at all, and such that the "partners" will be very concerned. wassat
    35. 0
      11 October 2016 05: 34
      All of Ukraine is a big monkey.
    36. 0
      11 October 2016 05: 40
      Yes, he did not discover America with his statements, but at least he honestly admitted that in Ukraine, political and not only political authorities are in power at the moment. wassat
    37. +1
      11 October 2016 06: 49
      The Verkhovna Rada deputy from the Radical Party, Igor Mosiychuk, objected, however, that thanks to Kravchuk’s refusal from these warheads, the country turned into a donkey with a bare backside.
      A rare case in the discussion of supporters of Euromaidan: they are both absolutely right.
      Both definitions are ideal for Ukraine.

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